Ask a greaser: Greasers are not rockabilly!
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- Опубликовано: 12 дек 2019
- Ok maniacs the question has been asked and the #madman has answered! #Greasers are not #rockabilly! This video is to explain and breakdown what greasers are and how they fit into the rockabilly community. I cover the who, whats, whys, and wheres so hopefully you find this video informative all links mentioned are posted below dig it!
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Kryptic Art Does the baby boomer generation count as greasers because my father grew up during the baby boomer generation
I sense your a horse energy or snake. Are you from 1989 or 1990?
Well there is a difference but from what I've found after studying from years of researching and being within the culture, a greaser is usually a juvenile delinquent or a young rebel of the conservative clean cut era of the 1950s and early 60s. They wanted something gritty and mean and exciting, at the time. Greasers tended to have long greasy styled haired, wore leather jackets, denim cuffed jeans, rolled up sleeve t-shirts. They were the "cool" "hip" kids. They loved rebelling against the clean cut culture. They were inspired by the "crazy" rock n roll music and the G.I'S who ganged up in motorcycle gangs. They smoked, did bad in school, walked the streets acting tough and bad. Of course this led them to doing violent things, ganging up, controlling turf, drinking, fighting, killing, and drag racing. Hot rods were becoming the new hot exciting thing. So with the rise of hot rods and rock n roll you can see where these kids diverged from the mainstream. It got bigger and bigger as that became the mainstream rebel movement of the decade. And it got bigger with the help of Elvis, James Dean and so on. Leather was cool, boots were manly, t shirts were causal and anti clean cut dress shirts. Mainly greasers were usually from the lower class. They loved in the slums and were blue collar workers. Working of cars, welding, general labor, so on.
Rockabilly was rythem and blues, country western music all combined together, inspired by negro music of the time such as, muddy waters, little Walter, howling wolf, BB. King. All of that was becoming very popular, especially in the south. So the southerners started playing around with different sounds and they ended up mixing country western music, with the negro R&B, and created something new. As a stereotype of southerners being hillbillies, that where we get the "hillbilly" aspect of rockaBILLY. It was the granddaddy of rock n roll music.
Early artists such as Carl Perkins, Johnny Cash and early Elvis were all HUGE contributors to this new wave of music. It took America by storm and became very popular all over, eventually the sound changed a bit more for more electric guitars and more drums, and eventually evolved into 1950s rock n roll. A good example of differences, listen to Carl Perkins and Chuck Berry, very different styles of the same genre. How it was and how it became.
So it started out as a name of music genre, to then what you call the artists who played this music, like you can consider Johnny Cash to actually be Rockabilly. Almost as a personality.
So throughout the decade obviously the up and coming wave of greasers listened and loved rockabilly music. Often associating the two together and becoming the official music of the young rebels.
So fast forward to the 70s, with the revival of the 1950s, many people longed to bring back things from their nostalgic memories, so it slowly did. You had the movie Grease, LOTS of films that were based in the 50s and of course, and the revival of rockabilly music thanks to the stray cats. So when rockabilly was coming back, the people who played it again, remember the type of people who listened and played it back in the day, who were GREASERS! So every rockabilly revival artist in the 70s, wanted to imitate that cool tough look, so we got the return of the famous Elvis hair, the motorcycle leather jackets, boots, tight levis 501's and that kind of became into a whole new thing in general.
From the 70s to Now, rockabilly isn't just music anymore, it's a sub-culture. It takes elements of greaser heritage and mixes it in with early punk and all.
It's more of a broader diverce thing, than a greaser is.
Being rockabilly allows you to dress up as a greaser, a teddy, a 50s biker, 50s western with pearl button plaid shirts, levis and boots, denim jackets, windbreaker, leather so on and so forth.
You're not just "stuck" as you would be as only a "greaser". If you were to belong to the vintage community, or even rockabilly you could at least have the option the be more diverce with your look and outfits and hair styles.
You can wear a letterman and not be afraid of if it "goes against the greaser style".
Greasers are cool and I started out as one a LONG time ago, but I evolved into a vintage person. There still isn't a name for all of us, but we enjoy dressing up as all kinds of different styles depending on mood and occasion and most of us are fully committed day in and day out. Most of the people who are into mid century modern are to be considered part of our subculture. They tend to dress vintage a lot. We all take pride in buying vintage clothes and actually wearing them. We get gitty if we find a vintage skinny tie or vintage floreshime wingtips. We are hardcore and very passionate about vintage antiques. Like we want to actually feel like we were alive in 1959, 1961, etc, by actually decorating our whole house with real vintage furniture from the 50s, and using old toasters, kitchen wear, antique dishes and cups, to old curtans, towl racks, dining table stereo system, garage tools, we try to get everything vintage. And if we can't find It, we get retro, which is modern things made to look old, a reproduction item.
But yeah I mainly wear 1950s casual clothes and some greaser stuff here and there, but I'll easily turn into a Ricky Nelson style outfit or even wear a nice sports coat and slack during weekend occasions. I can wear smoking jackets, a fedora with a three piece suit and then wear a leather jacket, boots and jeans within the same week and feel happy and content, instead of only limiting myself if I were to only be a "greaser".
"How to wear greaser special semi-formal wear"
"Oh I can't wear khakis cuzz I'm a greaser."
"I can't style my hair this way because it doesn't look greaser enough"
"Oh I can't listen to Frank Sinatra because I'm a greaser. I'm not allowed to have class, only allowed to listen to Link wray!"
"I can't own a 1960 Chrysler Imperial, because I'm a greaser and were only allowed to drive hot rods".
Hahaha! I'm kidding of course, do what makes you happy guys. In the end we should all be joyful that we have a strong love for the 1950s in 2019. And that there are many of us that carry the torch and pass on the history.
Masterstroke
Long but very well said
History lessons
@@harmsolidsnake you sound like the kind of guy I’d like to Hang around lol! You won me over with that Ricky Nelson comment, I have no idea why he isn’t more well known
I'd like to add to your comment.
It's obvious that you have a passion for 1950s youth culture, something that I think most of us here share (or we wouldn't be here.)😁
The term "greaser," in relation to inner-city gangs of the 1950s, seems to have certainly been used in Chicago.
The Rebels, The Street Romans, The Sons Of Italy could, broadly speaking, be described as "greasers.".(The 14-year-old shotgun shooter Clement "Cookie" Macis arrested in 1955 could be a "greaser.")
The term doesn't appear to have been used in New York, however.
The Mau Maus, The Egyptian Kings, The Sportsmen and Forsyth Street Boys, The New Lots Boys, The Viceroys, etc., these gangs referred to themselves as "bops" and "jitterbugs." (Neither "The Capeman" Salvador Agron, nor Carl Cintron in my opinion, would not fit the greaser descriptive term, but they certainly were gang members of the 1950s.)
Their mode of dress was different, their rituals for violently settling rivalries with opposing clubs were also a bit different from the greasers of Chicago, and generally speaking, they did not work on rods or customs.
(Speaking to some former "bopping" gang members, they told me that they were generally too poor to afford the luxury of hot rodding.)
By the same token, most of the rod and custom car clubs (such as the Hi-Domes out of San Francisco) were generally benign.
Of course, there was an exception to that.
The shooting murder committed by Eddie Padilla upon 16-year-old Neil Mahan during a rivalry between The Townsmen and Dutchmen in 1959 in Artesia, California was an example of rod and customs clubs behaving in the manner of "bopping" gangs.
But for the most part, the 1950s press seemed to have emphasized the charitable work that most of the rod and custom car clubs engaged in (blood drives, fundraising for muscular dystrophy, and teaching automobile safety.)
Fighting youth gangs, for the most part (with the situation in Artesia being an exception), seems to have been a separate subculture, in spite of the current mainstream's associating the two as being "the same" under the "Fifties greaser" heading.
San Francisco in the 1950s shows that the greaser designation, from a historical standpoint, doesn't really seem to fit there, either.
They had a variety of post-war youth gang subcultures.
The "bart" subculture seems to be the one that most closely resembles the greaser stereotype, but again, they had slang and rituals that were distinct from what we see in Chicago or New York. (They also seem to have favored Ben Davis trousers with colored inseam, as opposed to the rolled-cuff blue jeans stereotype.)
The "white shoe" subculture out of San Francisco turns the 1950s gang stereotype on its head, since they dressed in the manner of the "ivy league" clean cut teenager, even wearing the white buckskin shoes that we normally associate with "clean teen" pop idols (such as Frankie Avalon or Pat Boone.)
But the white shoes were definitely gang affiliated, and one of the most infamous instances of youth gang violence committed by a white shoe would be the 1952 Civic Center shooting committed by 19-year-old Robert Arthur Ranson, which resulted in the deaths of rivals Andrew Ulibari and Norman Bothelo.
The press even noted Ranson's well-dressed, clean cut, attire as he was being tried for murder. (He would be sent to San Quentin and released in the 1970s. The shooting would be covered in a 1953 issue of Look magazine.)
My point is that most subcultures of that time (and for that matter, any time period), are regional, with what makes each subculture unique to a specific location.
I don't believe that we can apply a catch-all term to describe all youth gang subcultures of the 1950s, at least, not when describing 1950s youth culture history (as opposed to describing modern day fans of 1950s aesthetics.)
where I'm from greasers, punks, rockabilly, physco's,surfers, skaters,cholos,cholas,car clubs, and chopper boys are all on the same block. this is more then a fashion mad man, this is a life style.
You are right about that.
It's not so much a style of dress that matters through these generations or cultural music styles.
The " spirit " of anti establishment
Is the key to being a greasers , punk , rock and roll , beatnik ,or what ever way you express freedom from the robotic , enslaved , masses.
What city is that?
@@Freshnewz10 west coast homie. L.A ,O.C, S.D and I.E
I can confirm. My pop (now deceased) was a greaser. But he was a jailbird. Had one tattooed on his forearm. My other pop is a greaser but also rode horses, a cowboy. Sadly, a lot of that greaser generation weren't the greatest people. Growing up I thought they were all cool & looked up to them but I found out a lot of bad stuff about them later on in life from my old man. My pop & uncle both had "born to lose" tattooed on their hands. They listened to country & 70's rock'n'roll. They were definitely greasers, had many hot rods over time. All looked the part. But they also made a lot of bad decisions. When I was a teenager (in my 30's now) I got into the rockabilly scene. I can absolutely confirm that there was & is a HUGE difference between the outlaw greaser generation & the rockabillies & even greasers of now. I always saw myself as a greaser as I've always rode motorcycles, had cars, & trucks, & listened to all types of music (also partied a lot). But my Dad & I chose to live our lives WAY differently from the outlaw greasers in the family. My advice to people- be true, wear your engineer boots, ride your motorcycle... but don't be a shitty person to the people you love. There's bad boys, and then there's "bad boys". Anyway, just my experience.
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God Bless Champ.
I thought rockabilly was the genre of music that greasers listen to. And the tag "greaser" was just something to identify the individuals in that scene
Chale vato 2 different things
@@diegojimenez6975what does chale vato mean? Is that ghetto thug language
enigmatik nah it’s caló. Chicano slang, it means no man
Jajajajajaajaja thug language
And you thought right.
I started with rockabilly, my mom was a huge fan of Elvis and she had his movies and other films like grease and Outsiders, etc which later on I learned about Greasers and since then I've been absorbed in the 40s 50s 60s 70s music and style.
Also I'm from Philadelphia, hello to all my greasers out there.
You should wear the Jean jacket more often
Cool profile pic 🤘🏻
as one who came through the original times, I get dismayed at times by this stuff. Shock, horror....there was no such thing as a 'Rockabilly culture' in the '50's. IT DID NOT EXIST. Yes, there was Rockabilly music as a sub genre of Rock'n'Roll, and as such, most Rockabilly was simply called Rock'n'Roll. There was also no such thing as a Rockabilly style...it was simply teenage Rock'n'Roll style, or sometimes they were called Hep Cats. Most of the so called Rockabilly record hops today play Rock'n'Roll, R'n'B, Blues Boppers, Jivers, Doowop, Hillbilly, Swing, Western Swing, even Cajun and Surf. The word Rockabilly has taken over almost every type of '50's music. There are many out there who imagine a Rockabilly heaven in the '50's, imagining a hot sweaty night in Dixie at a Rockabilly hop listening to nothing but Rockabilly all night long. Well, the fact is, at any teenage Rock'n'Roll hop in deepest darkest Dixie, you would have just as likely heard the latest pop Rock'n'Roll record. All the top Rockabilly artists in the fifties also liked and appreciated pop Rock'n'Roll and even aspired to be the same.
As for Greasers, well back then they were known as Bikers. Greaser is a term that came in later. It applied to their hobby of bikes, mechanics, engines. A Biker/Greaser in the evening would put on a suit to go to the local record hop....there he looked just like a regular Hep Cat! In Britain, he traded in his biker jacket and biker boots and put on his drape.....and became a Teddy Boy. I speak from experience.
That's not true. Because of payola the rockabilly bands were not played on mainstream radio. they didnt have the money to pay. A rockabilly culture did indeed exist. They danced at hillbilly clubs all over the south and they danced all night into the early morning hours. I was there. I know.
@@terrik9510 It is true....I was there. I was a dj back then. There was no such thing as a Rockabilly culture. There was no such thing as a Rockabilly dance. I DJ'ed in Memphis (and many other places) and while there was a lot of locally produced music played (Rockabilly and R'n'R) the teens also listened/danced to mainstream R'n'R and Pop. Elvis liked Pat Boone and Roy Hamilton, Roy Orbison was a big fan of Doowop. None, absolutely none, of the "Rockabilly" singers back then only listened to Rockabilly. None of the fans listened/danced only to Rockabilly. That all means NO ROCKABILLY CULTURE. Payola affected all types of music not just Rockabilly and there is zero evidence that Rockabilly suffered more than other types of music. Rockabillys dancing at Hillbilly clubs? Thats a good one. Let me set you straight. Rockabilly was a teen music and no teen would have been seen in a Hillbilly club (more correctly known as Honky Tonks or Juke Joints) as these were for adults who liked "old music". An example is the excellent track by Ferlin Husky called Slow Down Brother.....today it is called Rockabilly but back then it was not. It was considered, in 1955, to be old fashioned and teens did not listen to that stuff. You clearly were not around then.
Well then I guess you never set foot in the rural areas it was huge. i was there.
@@terrik9510 I spent plenty time in rural areas and witnessed dances where all types were played for teens and never ever a whole night of just Rockabilly. There simply was no strict Rockabilly scene.
@@cooldaddy2877 You have no idea what you're talking about. What you need to do is realize the rockabilly guys got no airplay for their songs because they didn't have the money to pay the greedy sobs of PAYOLA. So the way they made their living was by doing many, many shows on a circuit. And yes, the rockabilly bands did come to rural America quite often and Yes, they did play rockabilly all night long and yes, people did dance on dirt floors to rockabilly until the wee hours. I was there. It's a damn shame that the great rockabilly guys of the 50s were shunned by the greed of corporate America. They were so much better than the 3 chord, pretty boy Elvis who is over glorified constantly and it's quite sickening actually. Alvis Wayne was one of the best. His song 'rockabilly daddy' should have been a number one hit. Lucky Plank ' hey hey baby' has some great blues guitar. Billy Flagg's 'rockabilly music' should also been a number one hit. Joe Clay did an interview before he died and he said the exact same thing I just did about payola and the rockabilly guys never getting airplay. (you can find the Joe Clay interview on RUclips) So, you can run along now. I'm done with this. If you continue, I will just block you.
My son is about your age , he is a greaser i think because he gets it from me . I used to be a greaser back in the 80s just after the wonderers film and you had the stray cats the jets and all that stuff going on at the time .its good that you are bringing this stuff back out again . im pleased i still have hair to style these days ,but i love the whole greaser thing ,but i didnt see myself as a greaser at the time it was just a thing i went through .thanks for putting this stuff out there .ATB Paul
I've recently been getting more into the greaser, rockabilly music and culture. I'm learning so much from you man. I realize doing my research I was always into this but never had the balls to do it.
Rockabilly as a cult/sub culture started mainly in London 78 as a movement . The younger element reacted to the old Teddy Boy scene and looked for something else .
By 78 lots of raw record reissues tracks got released for the first time .
The American scene was very small and more based on a Greaser look. Brits started wearing tab shirts , flat top haircuts , peg trousers etc. London was full of cults , skinheads, mods, goths , punks etc.
Rolling Rock records weren't particularly popular , young cats wanted the original early 50s stuff. Ray Campi looked like a old school teacher to the UK scene not a hip swinging cat.
Many of the original artist now in middle-age toured small clubs in the UK.
I can remember seeing a small middle-aged Johnny Carroll playing to an audience of a couple of hundred in 79 in the suburbs of London. There wasn't really a market for them back in their home country at the time.
The stray Cats had to come to England to make it as the scene was so small in New York. The first ever hit was runaway boys which was in a London recording studio as all of their first album was.
They sort of over exaggerated the look adding a small Teddy Boy element with a punk rock edge. Not very popular with the original rockabillies.
The equivalent of the Greaser look would be in the UK the " Ton up boys" /rockers , who are constantly in fighting battles with mods in the early 60s.
That's enough for now.
Sure, for the UK maybe. There are areas in the U,S, where you could find Rockabilly culture thriving in various degrees non stop all the way back to where it began. The UK is like japan with all Rock n Roll type music, including Punk. It starts in the U.S. and later thrives there.
@@daphnetruman it was always present in Uk since the 50ies with Teds ,Rockers,Rockabillies,Hepcats.All the hidden 50ies artist played on Uk/european festivals.Viva LV wad founded by a exil english cat....and so on...
I was greaser in 1970s and hung out with mostly other greaser types. It was the era of the 50s revival so we listened to old 50s and 60s music and we especially liked Elvis and Carl Perkins and Gene Vincent and those guys were all rockabilly so I guess we were rockabilly . I had oldies music playing in my 57 Chevy all the time. Of course, back at that time in the middle of all that I wasn’t really calling it ‘ rockabilly ‘. It was just old 50s music.
I really didn’t get seriously into the ‘ rockabilly ‘ scene until the early 80s when I was like 25. Then I found there was a whole lot more good old rockabilly music out there than just Eddie and Gene.
I had Stray cat records when nobody knew who they were. Saw them in Detroit in 1982 when Brian Setzer played the whole show on his guitar and they only had a few tattoos.
I got greaser style from my older sisters boyfriends in mid 60s. Greased back hair, dress leather coat tight black pants and pointed toe shoes. By the mid 70s these clothes hard to find. We mostly just wore biker leather jackets and cowboy boots and drank a lot of beer.
Over 60 now and still have enough hair to have greaser hair do but I learned to use hair gel it works so much better than vaseline
I knew a family of guys that were just like the “ Outsiders “ When I saw that movie I thought someone used them for movie subject.
Stray cats love them xxxx
I've been greasing my hair for 40 years
Sha-na-na and Elvis inspired me
I dont call myself a greaser,even though my first car at 16 was a 56 Chevy,I just always liked the music,clothes,cars,,,fuck labels.
This is so educational, thank you!! I've always loved psychobilly music, surf rock, spaghetti western, and pinup fashion... but recently I've been curious about rockabilly in general. I'm on a personal study of discovering the history of this subculture, its influences, why certain things became iconic, what the various split-offs were, and everything. I'm so glad I stumbled across your channel!
Great Timin’ Madman! Had to watch your video before going out. Dig the Jean Jacket, and yeah I’d love to hear ya more when you talk about stuff that we don’t really talk about much but we need to talk about.
Hey Bro ! very well said, i can toast you a beer! Sköl! When I was 12 I was a rocker and Elvis fan, I had a Marlon Brand kid's jacket. I already wore hearing aids ... at least from then on I was a rebel and had a lot of enemies, I don't mind ... getting better;) Later in boarding school I got to know Psychobilly, I was 24 years old ... one wild time at every Psychobilly concert ... At some point I lost the contacts. High and low, but I stayed as a rocker for a long time and went to the Stray Cats concert twice. I only met JAILHOUSE REBEL 15 years ago from Cologne-Wessing. Thanks to Johnny and a few friends from Cologne, I was in the Rockabilly Club. For me it was the wildest and most beautiful rockabilly times! Today I'm 53 years old and I still have Old School Psychobilly and Neo Rockabilly in my heart! concert ... hm a shame, today i'm wearing cochler, unfortunately that's too loud for me. BUT vinyl and CD, I still hear them :)
Rockabilly will never die!
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Great video man. I'm glad you did it I thought it was the same now I know better
for Mexican Americans it wasnt no transition at all it was gangs and they adapted to the music and you should do a documentatary of what it was..you should do a doc on Greasers in Boyle Heights and what we had to survive to keep the scene alive
Hey madman, I love your videos. You've really given me all the knowledge I needed to start greasing. I was interested in your pocketwatch as it's quite unique. What do I need to look for in a pocketwatch? Or even which one do you have?
Hey man I'm starting to get into the greaser scene. Im in high school as a sophomore. Im new to the channel but i binge watch your content. I love your vids thanks for all the tips
Solid dude glad your digging the content!
We are the same.. except i started a few months ago
@@jamessillas3026 started last month
@@washerwood8918 Hey! I'm the same age and started a few years ago, but since there ain't any other greasers in the area, everyone just calls me emo or something like that. Pretty crazy.
@@krypticart6306 what product do I need to get that wet greasy look.
(I have thick wavy hair). As of now I am using murrays superior and i was wondering what you would recommend I get
I've been a greaser since about my freshman year of high school and I like rockabilly music and rock and roll. However you'll also catch me listening to Bob Seger, Creedance Clearwater Revival, Lynard Skynard and AC/DC. Hell I even listen Joan Jett, Motley Crue, Gunz n'Roses and others 80s rock and heavy metal. I basically like rock music in general and I also old country music like Johnny Cash, Merle Haggard, Hank Williams Jr., Willie Nelson, and more. Doesn't make me any less of a greaser than next guy.
Yes a live stream sounds good. Hopefully in the evening, because I work during the day.
Don't forget about Waylon
Wow, I really loved this vid! I shared alot of similarities with u. My mother's father was a greaser and I grew up with that, had zero clue what rockabilly was lol 😆. I love the fact that u keep this tradition alive, my grandfather has passed and would have gone full on ape$hit to see u! Thank u
Hey Madman! Fourth here and I just wanna say that your channel is awesome and it helps a lot of us cats (particularly the younger among us) learn about the Greaser culture. Thanks for all your hard work man, keep it up!
Thanks much appreciation will do!
This is so fucking interesting. Ive been a die hard rockabilly fan and you touched many important points of nomenclature and subcultures
Greaser (the word) was a insult, To anyone who spend more time on cars than girls . Rockabilly is music , but it all comes down to , either you are a square or not .
@x h8 fakes - Yeah I bet my dad was a mechanic and Mexican lol
The fact that you actually sang a few lines from "San Francisco" totally made this video!! 😂🤣👏🏼
Love ya vids madman, keep greasn
Totally. I am sure there are many Greasers who just are not into music at all but probably no Rockabillys that are not into Rockabilly music.
21:10 Is everything I need in this video, explained everything to me. Big ups from Sweden! We have our own little Greaser culture called Raggare, I definitely recommend checking it out since it never seems to go out of fashion
Jag är en riktig raggare
Uh so that's the difference
A few days ago, a friend of mine asked me about what was the difference, she thought that Greasers and Rockabilly were the same.
Thanks Madman, I prefer to be a Greaser all my life!
Greasers and "Rockabillies" (not the music, the subculture). Both Greasers and Rockabillies are into Rockabilly and Rock'n'Roll, but dress differently. Think about it like this: Rockabillies usually look like or dress like the musicians from the 1950s; slacks, shirts with collars out over the jacket, jeans also, but mostly the dressed-up look from the 50s.
@@Rebel-Forces-Earth-007 makes sense to me
Where is Johnny
I first heard about Greasers in the UK in the 1970s. They usually worked on old cars or motorcycles. Wore black leather jackets and liked Rock music. I've been in the Rockin scene in the UK for most of my life. I ride a Triumph Thunderbird cruiser motorcycle. My father was a Rocker in the 60s. He rode a Royal Enfield and also a BSA. He rode to his job as a locomotive fireman in Manchester, working on the railroad. He always used grease in his hair. Most working men did back then. He used to go to the Ten/Ten biker bar in Manchester. I'd say he was a greaser. I started to mix with the Rockin scene back in 1980 myself. It split into 2 genres not long after. Teddy Boys and the new guys on the scene.....Hepcats. Who listened to the newly discovered authentic Rockabilly music being unearthed by Djs in the UK. A lot of the music was on the white label. Rockers and Teds were usually associated with traditional chart Rock n Roll out of the 1950s. They also greased their hair. Hepcats started wearing clothes similar to 1950s Rockabilly bands and American youth culture from that time. Then the split also included separate gigs. Rockabilly gigs started alongside Teddy Boy gigs. Hemsby on the east coast had a big weekender which encompassed both styles. Rockers, Hot Rods classic and vintage cars etc. This was way before VLV. I saw an article in a music magazine that wrote an article each week on music gang rivals. Teds v Punks. Mods v Rockers and yes, Greasers v Skinheads. But 1970s Greasers. When Gene Vincent died in 1971 it was not reported on the UK news. This enraged the Teds and Rockers/Greasers so much there were huge demonstrations on the streets of London, Manchester etc. Demanding more Rock n Roll music be played on the radio. So the BBC hired a DJ called Stuart Coleman who started up a Rock n Roll slot on Radio 1. Later in the early 1980s a Rockabilly show started up with a DJ called Peter Powell, again on Radio 1. Fans started phoning in for songs and dedicating them to their mates. The "Southend Rockabilles" for example. So young guys and girls referred to themselves as Rockabillies as early as the early 1980s. Great video by the way
You got real clean hands son
2:25 madman without engineer boots! *rare photo*
Ain't very rare it was from the 90s he has it on is insta page
Miss you mad man, hope you're all healthy and hope a new video soon
Love your content brother man, what's the name of the intro song?
Excellent video!!
Interesting vid! Thanks, evolved through lots of tastes, they all stick to a degree.
Demon Ted's Are Go!!!
But I like me some Northern Soul, Ska ,punk, Industrial, Big Band n on n on, Authentic music❤
This is one of the best videos you've made, madman. Very informative. Props to you on your research!
only just found your vids man ,,as a 60 yr old greaser i say well done bra you nailed it , i mean every bit of it , your right you don't even really become a greaser you just are a greaser , you my friend are a greaser , cheers big ears from down under
I am enlightened, thank you
Do more live streams... YeS please! I have been watching and greasing since the start of your channel. much love form france.
straight facts from the madman
JJ the greaser Right
well no. Too much to go into but as soon as he stated that Rockabilly started in the late '40's.......well!
Mad man, hair is on point ! Maybe time for an updated hair tutorial. Edit: found your hair video posted 2 months ago. I was a subscriber but this is my new RUclips account. Subscribed again 👍
What is the starting music????
I'm from NSLB. Who did you use to run with out here?
Your hair’s looking slick! How did you get it to look that good? 🔥
Edward Madrigal that’s what I’m wondering
Give goon grease a try. It’s an oil based pomade. I use it, love it.
@@rebelgreaser570 nice profile pic
The answer is 00:21
hay madman will you make some more videos soon DIG IT
Fan facts with the Madman!
One question came to my mind from this video. You said that old greasers didnt know the name Rockabilly. So do you where that name comes from and when was it introduced?
Love your videos...
As a black guy I still think greasers have the coolest look
Quick question, I happen to listen to a lot of 50s era music primarily as well as modern stuff like punk and metal depending on my mood. Can I still be a greaser? And would dying my hair disqualify me?
Thats more rockabilly and punk
A lot of greasers listen to Punk Rock and metal from what I’ve seen (I do as well). Dying your hair might make you look psychobilly in a way but you can still call yourself a greaser if you dress like one not including the hair color, as long as you dress like a greaser then I don’t see how the hair color will 100% make you look like another subculture(like psychobilly) because they still dress quite different. I’ve seen some greasers that mix their style with punk as well so I think you may just look like a greaser who has their style mixed with punk. Sorry if that’s confusing
what car do you have?
Would love to get in touch with you. we have alot of greasers and rockabilly culture here in Sweden
What happened to your channel with Ace? Are y’all still doing that?
I would really appreciate if you would do the music review in more details and artists you liked. Anyways thanks for the video💞💫
U should do that weekly live stream, it'd be fuckin dope
Best intro ever!!!!
Hello , eye wood like to help a madman out , however , eye didn't 👀 see which way you came in !! Hahaha 😁😁😁
PS , great shows !!
Mad man can u do a tutorial on head types and what kind of pompadours would go well
You know I don't really know. You would just have to experiment until you find one you like basically.
Damn
Connor Sweeney Have a look at “Schorem” - The Scumbag Barbers of Rotterdam.
There’s a couple of documentaries on RUclips about them as well as tutorials on the cuts that they do, which are all classic 40s& 50s quiffs/pompadours, flat-tops, flat-top boogie, slick-back etc.
Their vibe is very much old skool rock n roll / punk attitude and I’m pretty sure that you’d find something that they do that you could show to your own barber. 😎
5:19 u got that photo of the car throwing flames from my page rock n roll time
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This is real Americana! 1950s and 60s American Greaser Rockabilly culture! Love it
Boogie woogie reminds me of dave Chappelle lmfao great video man keep it up
English greasers are more associated with rockabilly because of the rockabilly revival in the 70s so I wouldn't say that greasers aren't rockabilly
Agree
Ehh these day there's a intermixing throughout all subcultures
Thats just plain wrong. The greaser thing was never a British thing until the Rockers had come and gone, and then it related to the long heaired biker thing. Greasers in the term used in this post os an american thing.
@@motorvating greasers like rockabilly simple isn't it?
@@motorvating Right chrissy... I am british and know for a fact that english people in the 70s dressed exactly like greasers and listened to rockabilly... so I wish people would stop saying greasers aren't rockabilly because ask most greasers and they will say the probably LISTEN to and LIKE rockabilly along with rock n roll
Greasers go all the way back to the 1920s when people were driving old motorcycles and early cars. My father was born in 1935 and dressed like a greaser in 1952 before rock and roll was even being produced.😊
Saw the hairstyle on a picture of an old western boxer from the 1800s
Started with punk… Social D and the cramps led me to the Stray Cats and The Meteros, then I transcended deeper into Sun Records Rock and Roll, and country and now I’m really rockabilly with punk rock roots
Livestreams hell yeah
For me Rockabilly mean American 50's Era & Greaser was the subculture that born in that era.
Listened to metal my whole life and when it came time to cut my hair... I got an elephant trunk with a ducktail because ..... old hair styles and old Rebel culture is the roots of us metal heads.
I also love jump blues and swing and of course 50 RnR
Great video. Only thing I would add is the punks and skinheads who look almost identical to greasers but identify as Skins or punks. They can be very difficult to distinguish from greasers. I would even go so far as to say they almost are greasers since their identity and attitude is so similar, no nonsense, working class, rebellious types. I guess at the end of the day its just about what music you listen to the most and what you identify as.
I always dress like a greaser and got the attitude but my music is basically Social Distortion, The Cramps and Johnny Cash
I have been a greaser for 38 years. For us greasers wrenched on their cycles and cars. Rockabilly folk in the U.S. anyway, pay someone to wrench on their stuff.
Hey cat I'd love to see a slideshow of all them high school and younger photos your cars were so fuckin cool back then not to mention I grew up in that time too so nastalgia is at a high for me lol also I graduated in 07 too! Fuck ya man so glad I found this I always spiked my hair before I saw your hair tutorials now I'm greasy AF! Big thanks you from upstate New York madman
In the 1960's, ya'll were our "grease brothers".
Do a video on how to become a bad boy/greaser in high-school. I’m really into rock music. I wanna express it💯
guitar Lord he did
Why are aren’t rockabilly as present as they were in the 1950s. Tried starting up a clique in high school with friends from auto class, never caught on. Teenagers are still racing just not with greaser subculture. Attended a few races in high school.
Informative and as a 50 something year old cat who was raised by parents who lived and grew up in the 50's, as far as I can tell this is all true and factual. A great read if you can find the book "The Rockabilly Legends" "they called it rockabilly long before they called it rock & roll" by Jerry Naylor and Steve Halliday. Great vid!
In the UK greasers were rockers from the late 60s. Anyone who has seen the rolling Stones in Hyde park will be familiar.
I’m 52 and I grew up a greaser..My dad always wore white T-shirts,blue jeans,slicked back hair and worked on cars and used to sing Be Bop A Lula when I was younger before I knew what that was.I’ll be greasy till the day I die.Ain’t no costume,it’s what you are
I left this as a reply, but I'm reposting it here, because this is who I am and was born this way, but I don't seem to fit in on any side of society. Society has been brainwashed into thinking that humans must be 100% good, weak minded individuals that just do as their told or your a criminal (however, criminals live by the same top down power structures and a greaser hates that also). Here's my re-post:
"Not all greasers were delinquents. They did have delinquent tendency in since they hated the rigid rules and formalities of what society deemed acceptable dress, music, art, etc. Originally, a Greasers came out of the hard-working blue-collar society that couldn't afford the finer things in life and just simply wanted girls, cheap thrills and wasn't going to just bend-over and take it the BS elitism/religion or corrupt government. However, the white collars, police (white-collar bitches), corrupt civil authorities & religion made them all out to look like criminals or thugs when that was never the truth.
I never had a problem with society until society started to try to govern my life and way of thinking; just cause I'm blue-collar, rowdy, tougher and forward doesn't make me a thug or criminal, it makes me a greaser: which is an individual, who wants you to know he is his own mind, and he will live free in accordance to his interpretation of the rules, laws and principles but still a law abiding citizen for the most part. A true greaser is a chaotic-good individual who will not be controlled by criminal organization or white-collar-greedy-scum bags who control society. This is truly a greaser.
You should do a segment on the relation of rockabilly and morrissey. There are a ton of rockabilly/morrissey fans. There was a time in Morrissey's career that he emerged rockabilly into his music. I myself am a HUGE Morrissey fan from el paso tx. I found my liking for rockabilly through Morrissey. I think that this topic would do well being that u are from California. There is a massive Morrissey following there , a lot of whom are greasers and rockabillies. I myself am a greaser,rockabilly,Morrissey fan. If you will, a MOZABILLY
Morrissey is not rockabilly nor a greaser , he is nothing more than a liberal into the animal rights , environmental protection and ambiguously gay movements.
True rebels , greasers , don't give a fuck about liberal or conservative issues . Or the desire to get involved in the fix the broken world concept.
Individual freedom , with nobody telling them what to do , how to dress , and a strong desire for pussy would define a greasers more that what morrissey would.
That’s a badass jean jacket. What brand?
im guesiing LEVIS
Fluffies aren't rockabilly either!
As always buddy, great video, very informative, great research. As you know I've always been on the British end of things with the Rocker/Ton-Up boy scene, where Rockabilly and original Rock'n'Roll were both equally as important and pivotal in the British scene, as British motorcycles were, from the mid-50s to the mid-60s when many British-born musicians carried on the original formula and kept the American sound alive for at least another 6 years in the UK after it hit its demise in the States. Artists like Cliff Richard, Billy Fury, Vince Taylor, Johnny Kidd, Tommy Steele, and the Rapiers were incredible music strongholds for the "British version" of the American Greasers, the Ton-Up boys of the 50 and the Rockers of the 60s. Peace & Grease, cheers mate.
Us grease traps love ya mad man
Being a greaser kinda reminds me of stuff like rude boys and the original skinheads to some extent
They are all equally embarrassing
This guy reminds me of the dudes I see at the bowling alley when I go after hours 🤣
can a greaser wear cowboy boots or should i do combat boots
Look up teddyboy s of England. And you will see rockers like in England. Rock n roll forever 😊😊😊
correction on one thing, Bill Haley didn't do rockabilly, he was before Elvis Presley and it was Elvis who was the first in rockabilly....and what is that beard all about, I see greasers and rockabillies who got one…. we in the 70ties/80ties didn't had one….. so why ??
You are so wrong. Rockabilly was going a long while before Elvis sang it. I suggest you read the documented history about Elvis and how he wanted to Join Johnny Burnettes band before Elvis had a record contract. Bill Haley sang music we now know as Western Swing, Hilbilly and Country before rock n Roll existed in the 1940's. If you listened to Bill Haley late 1940's and early 1950's he is singing what we now call Rockabilly. Elvis was the person who took Rockabilly to the masses, he wasn't the first and wasn't who started it.
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@@motorvating - Spot on. Makes me smile when I see a comment like yours, homie. Not that I give a shit if kids are a little misconceived in their fashion statements (the most important quotient is that they're eventually true to themselves and any significant others) but that I can spot a fellow Brit rockin' aficionado a mile off. Because we truly are the professors of rockabilly. Not the pricks who memorise every pop-a-billy b-side but those like you who just ... know the score.
That's not particularly a statement of nationalistic pride, more an acknowledgement of spiritual brotherhood, in case anyone gets the wrong end of the schtick.
And if I'm wrong, you're doing a damn fine impersonation and I've got enough props to absorb the knocks.
@@motorvating I'm doing this since 1975, how long are you into this ?
@@jkrk7006 Same, 1975
Greasers all seem to gather around each other. Our gathering look like a 50s gang meeting
Wich hairstyles for women would you say is more suitable for greasers? I think its hard to find the fine line between rockabilly and greaser hairstyles for women. I wouldnt define myself as a greaser but more greaser than rockabilly.
If you want to be real the bettie bangs no victory roles just straight bettie bangs with the long hair is actually a 50s style. The shit after with the faux crap is lame. The style is so iconic and you can tell the difference
Just started greasing about 2 weeks ago, and finally got my boots. I'm definitely not into rockabilly, not my style of music (I mainly like punk, rock, queen is always accepted, and very occasionally rap.) But I'm glad I found out about this.
Update! :
I just bought myself a very nice g1 flight jacket off of amazon, I'll give ya'll a link when it arrives. I'm fucking stoked!
Edit: I'm not a greaser. The lifestyle doesn't suit me.
Duckie Alexander I'll do that, also, tonight I got my first knife as an early Christmas present. So that's pretty cool.
Edit: listened to a song from each genre, I like the acid rock better, but I do appreciate the lyrics from the psychedelic rock.
I'm starting into being a greaser, as well. I do listen to my fair share of rockabilly and rock n roll, but I more so listen to metalcore (i.e. Architects), deathcore (i.e. Suicide Silence), and alternative metal (i.e. Breaking Benjamin).
Edit: I also listen to Native American music, like Northern Cree or any Iroquois social dance songs, seeing as how I am a quarter blood Seneca.
Bruh you were a greaser for 2 weeks ? 😐
Bruh you were a greaser for 2 weeks ? 😐
Yes ! They rockerbillys in England were called teddy boys and not greasers 0r rockers or bikers !!
Greasers are the O.G. Chicano mechanics.
Greasers don't wear logos..no labels..
Schott perfectos, Levi’s and Chippewa riding boots?
@@helios7415,big goofy labels like Von Dutch..
if greasers wore cologne, what cologne did they wear? thanks!
Cigarettes
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Damn im just learning the greasers and rockabilly. I'm a rocker that lived on 70s, 80s and 90s rock like guns n roses and motorhead.
True real greaser's don't identify as one it's a label that has been given to them from Preps and Squares only wannabes and posers play dress up (today)
A greaser was usually a broke guy that couldn't afford much and was a mechanic or a low payed hard working man (a lot of WW2 vets fit this criteria) would wear the most affordable clothes such as jeans and a t-shirt
(what would be classified as WORK CLOTHES anyone that wore work clothes in public was labeled poor) and boots from the surplus store
The greasy hair was because they were always working on there vehicle the hair would be in their face and the greasy dirty hands would be slicking it back constantly the grease helped and it started to become something again because they were broke and couldn't afford a hair cut more often
Over time they took the label they had been given by the haters and rolled with it in a rebellious way knowing now that Uncle Sam screwed them making it a FU statement to the man!
Edit; what you are speaking of is the culture that came from that