⚠️ *For all those with no issues, (or for those Illuminati 5G lizard alien conspiracy theorists who might try to deny the issues exist👽), Take a look at these lost mx master souls to see how lucky you are* - www.reddit.com/search?q=R%2Fmac%20mx%20master%20jitter Also, even MKBH mentions connection issues. See his studio tour from 6 minutes onwards; ruclips.net/video/cxp-FCDUkNc/видео.html
As a say in another reply below: I solved this completely with my Logitech M720 by putting the receiver on a USB extension cable about a metre away. Perfect since I did this.
I got the MX Master 3 and an M1 Mac Mini and don’t have these issues. I’m assuming this has been corrected already. I don’t have any connection issues in any way anymore. Very comfortable mouse and very good performance now. I suggest everyone gives it a try again
There are umpteen unboxing videos and reviews on this product. I haven't seen anybody mention connectivity issues. You saved me time and money. Thanks!
this video should have (if you have a Mac) added to the title. I'm using an MX Master 3 on a PC and its been superb. Battery is brilliant, it will track on everything from glass to carpet and the magnetic scroll wheel is simply genius. But do agree that the thumb wheel is a bit high.
Noted! *edit* - changed the title for you 👍 As I said the feature set is unarguably brilliant, the scroll wheel is incredible, and the functions are amazing… it’s just a shame that myself (and apparently a significant number of owners) have many issues!
@@StusReviewsUK VERY impressed that you've changed the title! :) I hope your Mac experience improves with updates. Whilst I'm here, I also use the Logitech MX Keys keyboard and find that an absolute pleasure to use too....although I know that keyboards are VERY personal. Keep up the great videos.
I have MX Master 3 for Mac. I used it on my old iMac and it was great. Now I have the MAc Studio and it's a nightmare. The biggest issue is that the scroll wheel often stops working. Sometimes every day or a few times per day. Sometimes it works for a whole week. Then suddenly it stops. Total pain. I would scroll to the bottom of the comments to see if anyone else has these problems, but of course the scroll wheel has stopped working....
MX Master 3 with a M1 Mac Mini and no issues at all. I moved the receiver dongle away from the Mac using a USB extension cable and have no interference or jitter issues. Most issues I hear are when people use the receiver directly into a Mac USB port and I did see evidence of this myself before using a extension cable. Bluetooth connection was rotten so the unifying receiver is better.
The Bluetooth issues are also prevalent on the Intel Mac Mini. Apple has known about it since 2018 and done nothing. The root of the issue is that the BT transceiver is located very close to the USB ports. USB (especially high-speed / high-traffic usage) interferes with the admittedly weak BT. I have this issue on my 2018 Intel Mac Mini. The main help is to not use the USB ports on the Mac Mini, but to run a USB hub with nice shielded cables off of a Thunderbolt port. I still get occasional issues when doing large amounts of data access on USB attached storage devices. I'm currently using the Apple Magic Mouse (with 3rd party rubber bumpers to save my hands), but looking to move from it. I had an old Logitech Master from about 2011-2012 that I loved, but it has gone kaput. It had a tilting scroll wheel that I absolutely loved. Now they've gone to the thumb wheel which I suspect I will hate. I actually like the digitizer on the Magic Mouse for this. I don't know...I feel kind of stuck seeking my ideal mouse.
I just got my Keychron M6 and if you want smth similar to MX Master 3, this is the alternative for you, with half the price too EDIT: the bluetooth cursor jitter/jumpiness doesn’t exist on M6 and I’m using it with my M3 Pro Macbook. It also comes with USB C dongle, USB A dongle, and a wire for both charging and wired connection. The material feels cheap ofc (for half the price of MX master 3) but the quality speaks for itself
I have both mouses and here is my opinion (I use them on Macbook Pro i9 chip, mostly with unifying receiver, but sometimes with bluetooth): 1) MX master 3S came with a new unifying receiver, the new one, it was in the box. 2) 3S is not compatible with older receiver (and the same for Craft keyboards - if you have a combo 3S + Craft, you need to use 2 receivers, or just bluetooth). 3) The same for the software - Options+ is not compatible with either 2S or Craft keyboard (you need 2 versions of the software if you have a combo) 4) Thumb wheel on both mouses is something I never liked to use, it's not precise enough / clicky to be usable comfortably in my opinion (for example when scrolling timeline on Premiere Pro) 5) Ergonomics of 2 extra buttons close to the thumbwheel (usually Back and Next) are much better on 3S. On 2S they are so close together that are hard to press (especially the upper one is difficult to press) 6) Scroll wheel on both mouses is in a very similar position, I felt it natural to scroll on both mouses, great to use on both mouses 7) Side button (below the thumb) is easier to press on 2S. 3S has a smaller clickable area for this button under your thumb. But 2S had a problem with rubber around it (after couple of months it gets deformated and stuck because there is a plastic next to it, with not too much free space - if if rubber gets deformated with time, then you cannot freely press the button - seems to be fixed in 3S, but time will tell) 8) 2S has a problem with screws, they used a very thin plastic inside for screws, and it basically just crumbles. After a year of 2 of using, you start hearing noises of something in your mouse, you open it and you see small bits of plastic from around screws everywhere. It gets worse in time (possibly planned aging of the product - so you have to replace it) 9) I always had problems with Options software on MacOS. Usually it was not loading my custom buttons/presets configuration when starting the system. Doesn't seem to be an issue with new Options software. 10) I used 2S for 4 years of daily using and it was never broken (except broken screw plastics), always working. 11) Overall I'm happy after the upgrade, and I would not choose 2S again due to (in my opinion) improved ergonomics and software.
BUYER BEWARE - If you have an M1 Mac, DO NOT BUY this mouse (March 2022). I never comment on RUclips, but just like the uploader I feel so strongly about the issues with the MX Master 3 on M1 Mac that I have to say something. I work in IT and believe me when I say this has been the most frustrating peripheral and software experience I've ever had. It's utterly infuriating that a mouse that is marketed specifically for a Mac, and that is so expensive, is so broken and unsupported. This isn't something that can be fixed on our end, it's something that Logitech must recognise and provide a fix for in both Firmware and Software (assuming it's not a hardware incompatibility). Logitech has not provided any meaningful support or fix in the last 15 months, I'll leave it up to you to decide if you think that's going to change. I've returned my mouse and would advise anyone considering purchasing it to look elsewhere until Logitech brings out a new model.
M1 Macbook Air, MX Master 3 user here. If you are a mac user unistall logitech software and get SteerMouse. I've had similar issues, most annoying was intermittent horizontal scrolling. Absolutely random on and off, 2 seconds here, 5 seconds there and because horizontal scroll was one of the main reasons I went for mx master 3, I started to look for the solution. Logitech support is a joke. Once I uninstalled all logitech software I realised that all the issues disapeared so it's not hardware incompatibility. Of course after uninstalling logitech software I couldn't customize buttons and scrolls the way I like, but then I've found SteerMouse. Way more ways to customize scrolls and buttons and no issues anymore.
Gaming mice have spoiled me. I bought this mouse for work but the latency/precision was killing me. Not having 1000hz polling rate makes everything feel sooooooo sluggish and imprecise.
Exactly I had been using G402 to do all my design work and I thought I was upgrading by purchasing MX master 3 but then I had to sell it and get Razer orochi because it was the only wireless gaming mouse with high sensitivity and 2.4 GHz and Bluetooth connectivity.
finally someone who actually records and points out issues I've been having ever since I got this God Forsaken Mouse lol! I honestly just end up using my trackpad on the mac and a g502 hero on my PC because I can't use the MX master 3s on anything without getting that jitter on my mac or pc with the bolt receiver as well.
Love this ultra detailed user review. I have just bought the mouse. And have been experiencing the lag. Honestly the best mouse I’ve ever used so fas is their cheapest lightspeed mouse, the G305. That spoiled me on reliability and feel. I saw a solution where you use a usb extension and make the receiver visible in line of sight to the mouse. So far the stutters have disappeared, hopefully it lasts.
MX Master 3 user here, you're right about the options beta - it's broken. I'm using the traditional green logitech options on the Monterey beta (intel). Once I put the 2.4ghz receiver on a usb extension cable away from the back of the computer and other cables / interference it was grand. I have a friend using an m1 mac mini and I've him set up the same way, zero issues once 2.4 interference is ruled out.
@@StusReviewsUK that beta is shocking. I had to erase and install Mac OS to get rid of it completely. Good luck, oh and congrats on escaping the fruit shop!
All these points are valid. My only issue with this video is that you should make it more clear when it was posted as RUclips says it was posted a year ago which not accurate. Today is November of 2023 and based off what I saw in this video I am guessing it is from 2021. Which by now all the connection issues have been addressed. Ergonomics are personal and I find the MX3 very comfortable, in fact more than my old MX1. Also, I have had mine for a while with no connection issues on an Apple M chipped Mac.
I use the Mx master 3 with the dongle on windows laptop for work. It works flawlessly. When I plug that dongle on my MacBook Pro M1, connected to external display, it lags and jumps over the screen. Surprisingly it’s a bit better via Bluetooth. But even my hackintosh is more stable. I can’t live without that mouse - I have the silver version which I Love. But I agree with you, with such a big revenue income they should come with a solution. I read that some people had a better chance using an USB extender to connect the dongle, specially for the Mac mini. Maybe worth a try :)
I use the MX Master 3 S (the white one) with my mac mini m2 and I have absolutely no issue. Maybe they fixed it, keeping in mind that this video is 1 year old. Anyway, for anyone wondering, the 3S paired with m2 chip works great so far. I used a razer deathadder essentials because it fit perfectly in my hand and the scroll wheel broke. I bought another one and the scroll wheel broke again...so I got this one 3 months ago. If the scroll wheel breaks, it's me :))
If you're still interested in the question, I use a MX Master 3 with a Macbook Pro 16 Intel (2020 model I think) using native bluetooth (no universal receiver). Been using it since 2021 and had no issues.
I am pretty much in the same situation . I own a macbook air m1 and so far i tried the logitech mx master 3 , orochi v2 , magic mouse 3 , microsoft bluetooth mouse and the logitech g203. I have tried bluetooth and the 2.4ghz dongle and yea...the dongle is a little better but is not smooth all the time. Every single one of them work ...but not reliable. Not like they work in windows. Pls do a follow up video if u find new alternatives and thank you for your hard work !
With the USB receiver, the MX Master 3 worked flawlessly for me. I can't say the same for MX Master 3s, though. They've introduced this new "Logi Bolt" receiver, and the experience is lacking so far. I think there are no issues with tracking, but the Bolt software on MACOS is half-baked and doesn't allow changing the DPI.. Or anything, for that matter. "Logitech Options" is quite solid, though.
@@aditya3n Right now i use a razer cobra pro with my macbook pro. I use it with its included dongle and it feels almost as good as it is on windows. I use a few helping programs on mac like mac mouse fix and linear mouse but i got it to a point where the mouse feels as good on mac as it is on windows. I am happy with how it feels now .
Just bought Master 3 some days ago and after dealing for a few days with the jitter issue driving me crazy, the Logi options software and even the -not that ergonomic- physics (and its weight, it is heavy af), I returned it today. Yeah, when it comes to normal working status of the mouse, you even have to feel it comfortable to work for hours and hours. So it kinda subjective depending on the scenario. Sadly, I'm one of those who saw a lot of reviews only talking about the magic features, and get hyped with all those good looking workstations out there on insta, lol. For me, a simpler G603, also from logi, works 10 times better.
I had to work so hard to find a video like this cos I didn't believe it was just me having this problem. Had to type in the phrase 'problem with mx3 precision' and hardly got any auto-completing lol. Thanks for this video Stu... will try it out with the receiver and hope for the best
I’m using a Magic Mouse 1 (in macOS) and a Logitech Pebble (in Bootcamp). The Magic Mouse works absolutely fine for me, only issue is the 1st Gen will turn off if give it a bump because the batteries will get dislodged. The Pebble is there mainly because Windows is hostile to the Magic Mouse (and the Magic Trackpad), and I like lower mice. The Pebble being a quiet mouse also pleases me. However it is unreliable in MacOS when connected with Bluetooth, it’s more reliable when in Windows but sometimes it has mis-clicks, when using the dongle it’s all fine. I’ll probably get a Magic Mouse 2 because I’m tired with that battery dislodging thing. I’m okay with how it charges. MacOS will inform the user when the battery is low, and the remaining juice can easily last a day or even more, just remember to charge it at night and it’ll be fine.
Hey Stu! Thanks for the honest review. Unfortunately I saw this video too late. I got myself the MX 3S for Mac, but I'll try to return it. Do you have any suggestion for another bluetooth mouse I could try out?
Using the MX Master 3S on a few PCs. It has spoiled me and I can't go back. The main issue for me now is the bloatware. Why does a mouse need AI ? I moved the Bolt receiver to a different location and seems like it may have helped with the stuttering. The MX Mechanical keyboards are in storage since they have aggravating quirks as well (They miss the first keystroke on wake, even when plugged in). The batteries in the mice do not last very long; I'm replacing them using Ifixit kits.
My wife uses the 1 while I use the 3. They are both excellent, never an issue and I love that you can with the push of a button select the connection as I do use two computers sometimes and it works great. Have to say though that my wife uses windows while I use Linux. My previous mouse was the original mx580 which also worked great for 15 or so years
@@viktorg8346 no experience with the 2s, but no, I haven't noticed any lag. You might be able to use cable though because you can connect it to the usb-c port
Me too. I had a terrible adventure with mx3 mouse. Now I use a Magic Mouse 2. Just because it is sexy on my desktop and works. But I am thinking about switching back to Windows. I need a good mouse.
I have a similar problem, I own a Microsoft mouse and I use mac. The mouse was working perfectly until 8 months ago. I tried a second brand new mouse same computer and different computer. Same results. My theory is, apple updated something in osx and just f**** up their bluetooth module for third party devices. Is same problem, lagging, jittery etc… This doesn’t happens with the magic mouse.
I had the same issue with my series 1 and it had the same lag on my Intel Mac, it’s not an M1 issue it’s a Logitech issue . Also had lag issues on various windows laptops, Logitech support was as usual useless, for the price I’d expect a product that works. I feel many RUclipsrs don’t use the products they review and yes they do get caught up in MX fever
I’m a graphic designer and uses Mac every working day. (iMac 2019) I’m currently use mx master 3 and before that master 2. I haven’t had any problems that you are having.
After lot of grief I found that in my case the jitter issue was not related to the software, it was the distance between the unifying receiver and the mouse. Seriously, put it about 6 inches away and it won’t do it ever again. I had to use a usb extension cable.
I was very tempted to buy the Logi MX Master Mouse today, I bought The Magic Mouse 2 yesterday, but took it back today. Currently using a Logitech B100 wired mouse.
This one 👉 geni.us/LogiMXmaster3 There still nothing that comes close to functionality, despite the issues. I’m hoping that with the 4 they add wired use… would literally solve everything.
I found a solution to the Logitech mouse issue with the Mac Studio... if you use a USB-C to lightning converter to connect your mouse's USB receiver to then there are no issues. If you connect it to the USB C port, there's all kinds of skipping, lag, it's terrible... there is no disruption when you connect the receiver to the adaptor in the lightning port. 🐁
There is a bug in my M1 Pro with my Mx Master 3s. When the computer sleeps, the mouse becomes laggy. I have to restart the bluetooth module everytime throught terminal. You can restart the Bluetooth module by typing "sudo pkill bluetoothd". It worked for me.
using M350 (Logitech Pebble). Pretty neat for regular use, easily portable, completely silent. Issues I’ve faced are 1) lag while using on USB dongle 2) scroll wheel gets dirty pretty fast
Thank you! I had ordered the MX3 based on all the gushing RUclips reviews but my order was canceled. So I went onto Amazon to order it from there only to see all the terrible reviews contradicting all the raving RUclipsrs so I I found you when I searched to see if anyone on RUclips is actually being honest but this mouse.
Using the M720. The thumb click for mission control is awesome. Really handy for all the windows I constantly need to switch through. I also have the mx master 2S but I prefer the M720's thumb click. Great review!
I used an MX Master 2S for years with both my Windows desktop and my M1 Macbook Air. I recently upgraded to an MX Master 3S, and use it with both of the same computers. I have had zero issues with either mouse on either machine. They are great mice in my experience, if a little bit costly.
thank you. you have chaned my mind. i planned to buy mx 3 for mini mac 2 but i changed my mind and i will buy apple magic mouse even it is small and may hurt my hand but atleast it still fully compatible with mac
Finally I found a video that kinda explains all the struggle I'm going through. I have an Macbook 2014 and an MX Master 2S. They work perfectly together. However, recently I bought an M1 Mac mini, and the problems started. The mouse simply disconnects for no apparent reason when using BT. And for over an week now it doesn't even connect to the computer. The only "solution" was to use the unifying receiver. That is so frustrating.
Great review. I have also spent hours in trying to get my Logitech mice MX master 1 and 3 to work with my MacBook Pro 16 inch with the new processor. Now I use the external trackpad and is planning to buy the magic mouse too although the ergonomics are bad - but it works.
I used the Mx master 3 on a pc and it work flawlessly for three months, one day the scroll wheel just doesn't work , more like extremely lagging , since then change into a razer viper mini, which is not wireless but worked perfectly !(about two years).
I use the Magic Mouse 2 with iMac, do have an mx master 2s aswell but I like the swiping between pages/tabs etc that the Magic Mouse allows you to do on macOS . Maybe not very comfy to use but I like the functionality of it
I have had the 1 for years, working fine. Recently after a couple of months with my new Mac Studio selection and other things became quite erratic. Bought the MX3 for Mac in order to solve this but could not even establish contact with Bluetooth. Saw your post and decided to return it immediately. Looking for a good alternative now
Glad someone talks about this issue. I bought the MX Master 3S for my MacBook M1 Pro and I was totally disappointed by the way it moves the cursor. If I try to make small circles with my trackpad it is totally smooth. With the MX Master, it is totally jittering. Find that very unpleasant and inconvenient to work, because hitting buttons on screen is impaired comparing with the trackpad. Even though I never experienced these jumps you had on yours. Sent my first back to Amazon and my new one is a bit better, but I think I'll try to use an external USB transmitter as you advised. Or I'll get my self an Apple mouse and try to use it plugged in ;)
A MacBook m1 user here! Can anyone recommend me a good mouse for small hands? (Hand length around 16cm). - Palm/Claw grip - Use for mostly productivity with some gaming (not too heavy and slow) Much thanks!
I don't recommend this mouse either. I've used many Logitech mice over the years and they all somehow ceased to function correctly in about 2-3 years. My MX Master 3 isn't an exception - mine is about 18 months old now and the main scroll wheel (MagSpeed) has become so heavy and no longer spins freely. It is so heavy that I don't even want to use the wheel in ratchet mode any more. Tried everything I can (air duster etc) to clean the wheel without disassembling it but nothing seems to remedy the situation. Now my MX Master 3 is building muscles of my index finger every day.
about 4 years ago I purchased a MX1 mouse - to go with my new Alienware laptop. It was horrible!! returned it back after 1 days use. I waited for the MX2 to come out and having no issues since. Also due to limited USB ports on laptops I wanted to use the BT connectivity. Last year I've switched to a MBP m1 max. The MX2 mouse is still good, connects quick via BT no lag or other issues, also really taking advantage of the device switching when jumping back to my Alienware from time to time. Only downside I have is the scroll wheel on the mouse got damaged I did a repair on it to keep me going, so I currently have no free scroll. Not too bad I can live with it, only when working late at night the scroll clicking noise seems really load. I think next upgrade for me will be the MX4 - if they do release one.
Thanks a lot for this review, I don't have a mac m1 just an old macbook. If looking for a mouse to use in between windows PC for work and the laptop for studies. Will this suffice because I'm conscious of wrist pain etc
Hi Stu! I not an expert on mice but I am an expert on sound. Try lifting your speakers up on mini stands as the tweeters should be at ear height. Hope that helps. 😉
I'm using the 3S and yeah, so done with it. I disagree with the complaints on the shape, accidentally hitting the horizontal wheel was an issue with the 2S. But the software sucks and the horizontal wheel is not responsive in all programs, even on Windows 10. Works excellently in video editing software though, that I will say, and it is a game changer. But the worst is the main buttons. Too little feedback. Sure it's great if you're using it in a classroom as they don't make any noise, but if you're occasionally gaming or drawing with it, nope nope nope.
I use the MX master 3 with my work Windows laptop, my iPad Pro and my M1 MB Pro and I dont have these issues, maybe I'm just lucky? I do wish that both the mouse and keyboard would change together when I press the keys on the keyboard instead of having to pick the mouse up to change channel, but apart from that its been flawless for me... Sorry I can't be of any help but I figure a comment helps the RUclips algorithm...
I hate to recommend a different Logitech product after this review, but the Logitech G502 HERO is absolutely phenomenal. I've never had any issues with it, it has plenty of extra buttons that are very easy to access. While it doesn't have a sideways scroll wheel, you can click the middle scroll wheel left and right for sideways scrolling. I've really only used this mouse for gaming and some 3D modeling on a PC so I can't say how well it holds up on a mac, but I've had two of these mice over time and I think they really are great.
I use the MX Master 3 with PC. Only complaint with it, as you pointed out, is its pretty high and ended up getting a wrist glide to go with it otherwise the ergonomics are crap. Having said that, it has worked well for me. Not sure it was worth the price, but its held up well.
I'm at the same crossroads, I have had the Logitech MX Vertical mouse for over a year, I like it but I have the same problems on my Macbook pro M1, they have been partially solved with the unifier, it's not perfect at all, super annoying because it's an expensive mouse. Today the wheel has stopped working, I've tried to repair it and nothing worked!! As a graphics designer, I need an ergonomic mouse, so I was thinking to opt for the MX Master, but I don't want to have the same problems, especially if it doesn't even come with unifying. I hope we find some other similar mouse that is not Logitech, I really need it!! Thank you for the informative video, subscribing
Еrgonomics and durability are very important to me. I had a wired Open mouse with the Logitech logo, which worked for 20+ years. And it would have worked longer if I hadn’t broken the wire. During all this time, no double-click problems appeared. Now, while I'm looking for a mouse, I use the cheap Genius for $4. I was thinking about taking the Logitech G102, but after looking at the reviews I saw that many were complaining about the double click. I can't decide between wired and wireless. On the one hand, with a wired one there is less hassle, but the plus of wireless is comfort. a Also connect to several computers and a smartphone. I edit a lot of videos, so I need a mouse with a scroll button that can be used to click right and left, thereby moving the CTI by 1 frame. I looked through a lot of mice until I found one that combined all my requirements.
So glad to see an honest opinion about it! I too was swayed by the numerous praise by RUclipsrs at the time, but I just never really got on with it. It felt slightly cumbersome to use, and I would get weird wrist aches. Ended up selling it on eBay, and getting a Magic Trackpad instead. Works smoothly, and I just can't do without the multi-touch gestures and speed in my everyday work.
Thanks for this video. I'm using a Magic Mouse and it's an absolute pain to switch it from my work MacBook to my m1 Mac mini. (I have to go through accessibility using key-mouse) I was considering getting the MX 3 for its "seamless switching" between 3 different devices, no more!
Warning: Long post Here’s my experience. I’m using a MacBook Air M1 with an external monitor and keyboard and Magic Mouse, iPad Gen 7, and an HP windows PC. For various reasons I am not willing to trash the Microsoft OS machine and the apps I am using there. The PC usage is with a K350 BT keyboard and M510 BT mouse. Both have been easy to use and very dependable, with long battery life (for me). My complaint after I got my Macbook was the constant shuffling of keyboards and mice when switching from one to the other. My prospective solution was an MX Keys and the MX3 mouse. Shortly after receiving both, I discovered Apple’s Universal Display feature. What a game-changer. Now the keyboard and Apple mouse can be used on both my M1 and iPad. Seamless usage, in my opinion. Super easy to use those two peripherals on the Apple devices. And the keyboard easily communicates with the PC when I need it. So now I have one keyboard, instead of two. Unlike you, I’m not yet disgusted with the Magic Mouse. It serves my needs well enough, but of course doesn’t work with the PC. So, should I open and use the MX3? Well, I agree with you about many of the annoyances with that rodent. And, the M510 has not failed me over several years, so why trash it? If I switched to the MX3, I would be “flipping the switch” back and forth when switching machines anyway, so why waste that US$99, simply for more buttons that I may or may not make use of? Besides, I think it is a bit ugly. So, I sent the unopened mouse back to Amazon for a refund, but kept the MX Keys. Superb keyboard for my usage, with easy switching among machines, long battery life in my experience, but a bit pricey at $120. When switching to the PC, I throw one switch on the keyboard and pick up the M510 and “Away we go” as Ralph Cramden used to say. One keyboard on my desk, and two mice. Plenty of room now. You asked for it, and that’s my take on the subject. Thanks for the video, and your well-considered opinion.
I use the wired Logitech MX 518 and G400 on the Mac Studio with Sonoma 14.1.1. Both mice actually worked well until Ventura. With the last Sonoma update, however, the problems started. When moving objects on the desktop, they keep getting stuck. They can be moved, but these delays are annoying. When I work with Adobe programs, there are display problems with the cursor and some tools. When work palettes are moved, they drag slowly as if on a rubber band. This was not the case before Sonoma. However, if I use the Magic Mouse, which is connected to the Mac via Bluetooth, I don't have these problems. Very strange. But I think the Magic Mouse is a real ergonomic disaster. It doesn't matter whether I use the two Logitech mice with the Logitech software or with the universal driver USB Overdrive - the problems occur in both cases. I already suspected that Apple might be deliberately preventing the use of third-party mice. But that is certainly wrong.
Currently using a MX Master 3 and haven't had any of the problems you've mentioned here. I do wish I would have grabbed a trackball from Loigtech, the MX ERGO. I used this mouse for a short time and it feels so much better. The gestures on the track pad are enough to merit not using a dedicated side scroll mouse, in my opinion. If it wasn't another $90, I'd switch. The master 3 should have been a home run, but button placement really does it for me as well.
The 2s has been working completely fine for me on an M1 max 16in (knock on wood). Certainly always looking for a good mouse! Always glad to have options.
So which mouse would you recommend? I’m experiencing all the issues you mentioning lol. I was tryna get the master 3s but I think I’m done with logintech.
Not sure why but my MX Master seems to work fine. No stuttering, and it charges via USB from the Mac fine (also m1 max chip). I'm still replacing it with an MMO mouse for video editing, both because I don't like the ergos myself, and because the battery life and button placement aren't great. Also, many mice I've used have SIDE scrolling with the main wheel. Just push it to one or the other side and viola. I'm not sure if it would not work for some reason or other, but I know my Razor Naga has side scrolling and it's awesome in DaVinci.
14:10 I came here for an answer and left with the same problem.. if you worked at apple for 10 years, I give up lol I've used the Logitech MX Masters - bluetooth and wirelessly with dongles. Lag / stutters. I use a PC for gaming also which lets me be a bit picky on mouse latency I have a 14 inch Macbook Pro M1 Max (had M1 also) and the only mouse that has worked without lag has been the magic mouse or trackpad - but the ergonomics of the magic mouse just isn't it.. 9:38 "it's a great example of where obsessing about a products style has had a detrimental effect to the actual funcitionality and usage of the product"
I had to buy a new keyboard and mouse as was given a mac for work. Have had an MX Master in the past and it worked fine for years until the charging contacts died. This time I bought a logitech triathlon mouse and keyboard set. Not particularly happy with the keyboard and had similar issues to those you mentioned with the unifying receiver. In the end they are both now running on bluetooth. Wasn't sure if it was something to do with it having to go theough a usb a to usb c hub or that Mac's (in my opinion) have an inferior operating system. The mouse is just ok, not really what you need for your role but for general office it is fine. I needed the ability to swap between machines which is why I bought the set. Mac/PC/Pi.
The rubber coating of my MX Master 3 started disintegrating within two years with normal use. Making the surface feel sticky and gross to the touch. I bought a Magic Mouse to try and get used to that. I wish Logitech would make a MX Master with a hard plastic coating that is easy to clean.
I use the MX Master (Amazon version) on Mac M1 mini. No stuttering on Bluetooth or Unified. I did have to have one replaced as the gesture button kept getting physically stuck. No problems with jitter on either though, 9-5, Mon-Fri. I think yours are faulty.
That’s the exact version I bought as well… and nothing but problems! I’m pretty sure it’s not broken, because it’s both of mine and many many other peoples apparently; www.reddit.com/search?q=R%2Fmac%20mx%20master%20jitter But it makes me wonder… why do some work and some don’t? 👀
So, this is a bit of a long shot, but my Mac mini is mounted to the underside of my desk, upside-down in a custom holder, basically right below where my mouse is on the other side of the desk. I wonder if that means it’s in just the right orientation for there to be no metal between the mini and the mouse?? Just a thought.
I use the Apple Magic Mouse and it’s great apart from several things. No quick change to another device. What often drives me mad is that I often accidentally swipe sideways resulting in a previous page or previous video. I don’t like that, hence landing here while researching an alternative.
I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. I have been in a love/hate relationship with the MX Master mice since version 1 also. I currently have the MX Master 2S and have been delaying replacing it. I have a Mac Mini M1 and share your frustrations with it's bluetooth issues. I finally seem to have resolved my issues with the stuttering by connecting only through the 2.4mhz dongle. I also believe the stuttering is caused by interference by nearby wireless signals, so have re-positioned everything until the issue went away. My dream mouse would be an MX Master version 1 with the Logitech Lightspeed connection. Hopefully someday it will happen.
Quite a few people are mentioning that fixed the issues… unfortunately mine is persisting! I’m wondering if it’s wireless interference or something like that!
@@StusReviewsUK The only issue i ever had with the Master series of mice was when the dongle thing was in the back of the PC. It stuttered a bit here and there etc. I got a usb extension cable and ran it with the dongle in the end so it was behind the desk but in line with where the mouse is. Never had that issue since. Might be worth a try at least.
I don't use a mouse with my Apple M1 laptop, I have got bad arthritis in my hands, unfortunately. I am thinking about getting an Apple Magic Trackpad, to make my life easier. What do you think, can you think of any cheaper alternatives for myself?
You might find the trackpad just as bad. I found that using one with an imac i would get 'claw hand' quite quickly, and my palm would start to ache... but everyone is different! Fortunately apple have a great 14 day return policy 😉
Im using the MX master 3, have had lots of lag and disconnects on Mac. Another issue is the unifying receiver is USB-A. So you can't connect it to a Mac without an adapter
Been using a logitech mx master 3 with macbook pro M2max and works like a charm. I dont suffer any of your mentioned drawbacks... for me its the perfect mouse. maybe the problem is not the mouse... just saying....
I can ‘just say’ the sky is green… that doesn’t make all the other people who know the sky is blue, wrong though… It might blow your mind to learn that you can not have an issue, whilst it can also be true that simultaneously many others can. Do you know what… maybe you’re wrong, given the level of complaints about this mouse in the comments. Maybe the problem is not me, it’s denialists like you… Just saying…
bro that info might have been ok back then, but today there is no comparison. S3 is as good as it gets. i have zero issues with flow and no lag nothing. agree about apple and all but logitech MX S3 is the best hand down. not restarting nothing. works perfect. thanks for the great details! enjoyed watching your video. cheers
Two cheap Tecknet MGQ424, one for my Macbook Air and another for my Surface Pro 6. I've had them for years and they work fine on wood. They take AAA cells and I just keep a couple of cells fully charged ready to swap in. That is more convenient than having to charge a mouse when it runs out. For my Dell deskside I use the wired mouse that came with it and a USB switch to switch everything to a Surface dock. I have a Logitech ball mouse but I never use it. I hate trackpads.
@Stu‘s Reviews I wonder if the new MX Master 3 for Business (with new „logi bolt“ wireless connector) is solving your issues? Maybe, Logitech can provide you with a sample?
Logitech Support has a YT video saying that Logi Bolt has max. latency in noisy environments in macOS of 4ms, compared to 57ms to 610ms with other, unnamed products.
I’m still using my Logitech M275, it’s pretty old but I just absolutely love how it feels, the scroll wheel is starting to fail tho so i bought a master mx 3s, i’m still keeping the old one tho. It literally has a smooth spot from my finger on my left mouse button xD
I use a MX Keys & MX Master 3 via unifying receiver on a Windows PC environment, both also have latest firmware installed and less than 1m from receiver. My MX Master 3 will often suffer from cursor lag, it seems to occur when the PC is under minor load, it makes playing RTS games a nightmare. I suspect when the PC is under load it reduces priority to requests on the USB bus so the mouse doesnt get updates sent to it as frequently (Educated guess). I also dislike the magwheel as it can often be too laggy to switch between ratchet and smooth scroll automatically leading to a inconsistent scrolling experience. My final pet hate is Logitech boasting about 'Logitech Flow / Options' this feature is useless to people that use these peripherals on a work laptop where third party software is not allowed to be installed on the machine by restrictions imposed by your IT dept. Glad to see a RUclipsr being honest and not just praising this mouse, it has flaws just like most other products. The best feature of these 2x items is their ability to switch between upto 3 machines and thats why ill keep them as it saves me needing to get a KVM or alternative.
⚠️ *For all those with no issues, (or for those Illuminati 5G lizard alien conspiracy theorists who might try to deny the issues exist👽), Take a look at these lost mx master souls to see how lucky you are* - www.reddit.com/search?q=R%2Fmac%20mx%20master%20jitter
Also, even MKBH mentions connection issues. See his studio tour from 6 minutes onwards; ruclips.net/video/cxp-FCDUkNc/видео.html
You mentioned being tempted by a ball mouse. Ever tried the Elecom Huge? Its a well built freak of a mouse, perfect for larger hands.
@@madassbadgers yeah that was mentioned! It’s certainly huge!
😂😂😂😂😂 i have an macbook pro M1 pro with the mx master 3. Until now no problems 🙏🙏🙏🙏
As a say in another reply below: I solved this completely with my Logitech M720 by putting the receiver on a USB extension cable about a metre away. Perfect since I did this.
@@BobKummerfeld Mines currently 1ft away on the same work surface as the mouse... still having issues. 😮💨
Stu's review of tech reminds me of Jeremy Clarkson's review of cars. Love it! Cheers.
this let to a subscribe, I love Jeremy Clarkson!
Totally agree!!
i thought this exact same thing too. i think its the pure red hot outrage delivered as calmly as the bbc weather report
Massive Clarkson vibes. Not a bad thing necessarily!
Came here to say the same thing
I got the MX Master 3 and an M1 Mac Mini and don’t have these issues. I’m assuming this has been corrected already. I don’t have any connection issues in any way anymore. Very comfortable mouse and very good performance now. I suggest everyone gives it a try again
Does it flows well with davinci resolve?
I continue having issues, is there a way to solve the problems? In my case is more lag and weird scrolling
There are umpteen unboxing videos and reviews on this product. I haven't seen anybody mention connectivity issues. You saved me time and money. Thanks!
No problem! 🌞👌
this video should have (if you have a Mac) added to the title. I'm using an MX Master 3 on a PC and its been superb. Battery is brilliant, it will track on everything from glass to carpet and the magnetic scroll wheel is simply genius. But do agree that the thumb wheel is a bit high.
Noted! *edit* - changed the title for you 👍
As I said the feature set is unarguably brilliant, the scroll wheel is incredible, and the functions are amazing… it’s just a shame that myself (and apparently a significant number of owners) have many issues!
@@StusReviewsUK VERY impressed that you've changed the title! :) I hope your Mac experience improves with updates. Whilst I'm here, I also use the Logitech MX Keys keyboard and find that an absolute pleasure to use too....although I know that keyboards are VERY personal. Keep up the great videos.
do you have any issues with the scroll whell not working properly? I've seen many people with this issue
I have MX Master 3 for Mac. I used it on my old iMac and it was great. Now I have the MAc Studio and it's a nightmare. The biggest issue is that the scroll wheel often stops working. Sometimes every day or a few times per day. Sometimes it works for a whole week. Then suddenly it stops. Total pain.
I would scroll to the bottom of the comments to see if anyone else has these problems, but of course the scroll wheel has stopped working....
Hi :-) So what's the situation now almost 2 years later? Does it work better? Did you find an alternative?
MX Master 3 with a M1 Mac Mini and no issues at all. I moved the receiver dongle away from the Mac using a USB extension cable and have no interference or jitter issues. Most issues I hear are when people use the receiver directly into a Mac USB port and I did see evidence of this myself before using a extension cable. Bluetooth connection was rotten so the unifying receiver is better.
The Bluetooth issues are also prevalent on the Intel Mac Mini. Apple has known about it since 2018 and done nothing. The root of the issue is that the BT transceiver is located very close to the USB ports. USB (especially high-speed / high-traffic usage) interferes with the admittedly weak BT. I have this issue on my 2018 Intel Mac Mini. The main help is to not use the USB ports on the Mac Mini, but to run a USB hub with nice shielded cables off of a Thunderbolt port. I still get occasional issues when doing large amounts of data access on USB attached storage devices. I'm currently using the Apple Magic Mouse (with 3rd party rubber bumpers to save my hands), but looking to move from it. I had an old Logitech Master from about 2011-2012 that I loved, but it has gone kaput. It had a tilting scroll wheel that I absolutely loved. Now they've gone to the thumb wheel which I suspect I will hate. I actually like the digitizer on the Magic Mouse for this. I don't know...I feel kind of stuck seeking my ideal mouse.
I just got my Keychron M6 and if you want smth similar to MX Master 3, this is the alternative for you, with half the price too
EDIT: the bluetooth cursor jitter/jumpiness doesn’t exist on M6 and I’m using it with my M3 Pro Macbook. It also comes with USB C dongle, USB A dongle, and a wire for both charging and wired connection. The material feels cheap ofc (for half the price of MX master 3) but the quality speaks for itself
Thank you for your frank and honest review. Saved me some cash and a whole lot of time!
I have both mouses and here is my opinion (I use them on Macbook Pro i9 chip, mostly with unifying receiver, but sometimes with bluetooth):
1) MX master 3S came with a new unifying receiver, the new one, it was in the box.
2) 3S is not compatible with older receiver (and the same for Craft keyboards - if you have a combo 3S + Craft, you need to use 2 receivers, or just bluetooth).
3) The same for the software - Options+ is not compatible with either 2S or Craft keyboard (you need 2 versions of the software if you have a combo)
4) Thumb wheel on both mouses is something I never liked to use, it's not precise enough / clicky to be usable comfortably in my opinion (for example when scrolling timeline on Premiere Pro)
5) Ergonomics of 2 extra buttons close to the thumbwheel (usually Back and Next) are much better on 3S. On 2S they are so close together that are hard to press (especially the upper one is difficult to press)
6) Scroll wheel on both mouses is in a very similar position, I felt it natural to scroll on both mouses, great to use on both mouses
7) Side button (below the thumb) is easier to press on 2S. 3S has a smaller clickable area for this button under your thumb. But 2S had a problem with rubber around it (after couple of months it gets deformated and stuck because there is a plastic next to it, with not too much free space - if if rubber gets deformated with time, then you cannot freely press the button - seems to be fixed in 3S, but time will tell)
8) 2S has a problem with screws, they used a very thin plastic inside for screws, and it basically just crumbles. After a year of 2 of using, you start hearing noises of something in your mouse, you open it and you see small bits of plastic from around screws everywhere. It gets worse in time (possibly planned aging of the product - so you have to replace it)
9) I always had problems with Options software on MacOS. Usually it was not loading my custom buttons/presets configuration when starting the system. Doesn't seem to be an issue with new Options software.
10) I used 2S for 4 years of daily using and it was never broken (except broken screw plastics), always working.
11) Overall I'm happy after the upgrade, and I would not choose 2S again due to (in my opinion) improved ergonomics and software.
BUYER BEWARE - If you have an M1 Mac, DO NOT BUY this mouse (March 2022).
I never comment on RUclips, but just like the uploader I feel so strongly about the issues with the MX Master 3 on M1 Mac that I have to say something. I work in IT and believe me when I say this has been the most frustrating peripheral and software experience I've ever had. It's utterly infuriating that a mouse that is marketed specifically for a Mac, and that is so expensive, is so broken and unsupported.
This isn't something that can be fixed on our end, it's something that Logitech must recognise and provide a fix for in both Firmware and Software (assuming it's not a hardware incompatibility). Logitech has not provided any meaningful support or fix in the last 15 months, I'll leave it up to you to decide if you think that's going to change.
I've returned my mouse and would advise anyone considering purchasing it to look elsewhere until Logitech brings out a new model.
What I find most amazing is how people who don’t have these issues seem to not believe the issues exist 👁👄👁
I had the same issue, I still don't know what I need to buy instead of mx3 and magic mouse
Running fine on the last Intel Mac.
M1 Macbook Air, MX Master 3 user here.
If you are a mac user unistall logitech software and get SteerMouse.
I've had similar issues, most annoying was intermittent horizontal scrolling.
Absolutely random on and off, 2 seconds here, 5 seconds there and because horizontal scroll was one of the main reasons I went for mx master 3, I started to look for the solution.
Logitech support is a joke. Once I uninstalled all logitech software I realised that all the issues disapeared so it's not hardware incompatibility.
Of course after uninstalling logitech software I couldn't customize buttons and scrolls the way I like, but then I've found SteerMouse.
Way more ways to customize scrolls and buttons and no issues anymore.
Is the latest version of MX Master 3S better?
Gaming mice have spoiled me. I bought this mouse for work but the latency/precision was killing me. Not having 1000hz polling rate makes everything feel sooooooo sluggish and imprecise.
I know right… certainly not the most precise 👀
Exactly I had been using G402 to do all my design work and I thought I was upgrading by purchasing MX master 3 but then I had to sell it and get Razer orochi because it was the only wireless gaming mouse with high sensitivity and 2.4 GHz and Bluetooth connectivity.
I am surprised no one sue Logitech for false advertising of this mouse.
finally someone who actually records and points out issues I've been having ever since I got this God Forsaken Mouse lol! I honestly just end up using my trackpad on the mac and a g502 hero on my PC because I can't use the MX master 3s on anything without getting that jitter on my mac or pc with the bolt receiver as well.
Really? You have a newer version, 3s, and it still has a jitter problem?
Love this ultra detailed user review. I have just bought the mouse. And have been experiencing the lag. Honestly the best mouse I’ve ever used so fas is their cheapest lightspeed mouse, the G305. That spoiled me on reliability and feel. I saw a solution where you use a usb extension and make the receiver visible in line of sight to the mouse. So far the stutters have disappeared, hopefully it lasts.
From when this video was made (10 months ago to now) these issues you don’t see as a problem?
MX Master 3 user here, you're right about the options beta - it's broken. I'm using the traditional green logitech options on the Monterey beta (intel). Once I put the 2.4ghz receiver on a usb extension cable away from the back of the computer and other cables / interference it was grand. I have a friend using an m1 mac mini and I've him set up the same way, zero issues once 2.4 interference is ruled out.
I’ve tried moving the sensor really close, but still getting issues. Intermittently for sure, but still there (probably because it’s in beta still)!
@@StusReviewsUK that beta is shocking. I had to erase and install Mac OS to get rid of it completely. Good luck, oh and congrats on escaping the fruit shop!
omg... you made so many good points. I thought i was crazy because everyone raved about this mouse. And i agree with everything you've said.
All these points are valid. My only issue with this video is that you should make it more clear when it was posted as RUclips says it was posted a year ago which not accurate. Today is November of 2023 and based off what I saw in this video I am guessing it is from 2021. Which by now all the connection issues have been addressed. Ergonomics are personal and I find the MX3 very comfortable, in fact more than my old MX1. Also, I have had mine for a while with no connection issues on an Apple M chipped Mac.
I use the Mx master 3 with the dongle on windows laptop for work. It works flawlessly.
When I plug that dongle on my MacBook Pro M1, connected to external display, it lags and jumps over the screen. Surprisingly it’s a bit better via Bluetooth.
But even my hackintosh is more stable.
I can’t live without that mouse - I have the silver version which I Love.
But I agree with you, with such a big revenue income they should come with a solution.
I read that some people had a better chance using an USB extender to connect the dongle, specially for the Mac mini. Maybe worth a try :)
I might give it a go!
Any idea if the new MX Master 3S is supposed to have any of these bugs worked out? Great video btw!
I use the MX Master 3 S (the white one) with my mac mini m2 and I have absolutely no issue. Maybe they fixed it, keeping in mind that this video is 1 year old. Anyway, for anyone wondering, the 3S paired with m2 chip works great so far. I used a razer deathadder essentials because it fit perfectly in my hand and the scroll wheel broke. I bought another one and the scroll wheel broke again...so I got this one 3 months ago. If the scroll wheel breaks, it's me :))
Did you get the one for mac or the one with the unifying receiver?
@@oreoakalaperoji8314 The normal one with the USB thingie. I have a windows laptop as well for some programs that don't work on mac.
If you're still interested in the question, I use a MX Master 3 with a Macbook Pro 16 Intel (2020 model I think) using native bluetooth (no universal receiver). Been using it since 2021 and had no issues.
I am pretty much in the same situation . I own a macbook air m1 and so far i tried the logitech mx master 3 , orochi v2 , magic mouse 3 , microsoft bluetooth mouse and the logitech g203. I have tried bluetooth and the 2.4ghz dongle and yea...the dongle is a little better but is not smooth all the time. Every single one of them work ...but not reliable. Not like they work in windows. Pls do a follow up video if u find new alternatives and thank you for your hard work !
With the USB receiver, the MX Master 3 worked flawlessly for me. I can't say the same for MX Master 3s, though. They've introduced this new "Logi Bolt" receiver, and the experience is lacking so far. I think there are no issues with tracking, but the Bolt software on MACOS is half-baked and doesn't allow changing the DPI.. Or anything, for that matter. "Logitech Options" is quite solid, though.
it's been 2 years now.. wondering what mouse that you ended up using it..
@@aditya3n Right now i use a razer cobra pro with my macbook pro. I use it with its included dongle and it feels almost as good as it is on windows. I use a few helping programs on mac like mac mouse fix and linear mouse but i got it to a point where the mouse feels as good on mac as it is on windows. I am happy with how it feels now .
@@c.a.design8390 wow sounds great, thanks!
Just got a Logitech M720 and I'm noticing the lag or something misbehaving.
I must commend this video, love the LIFE you vibe.
Just bought Master 3 some days ago and after dealing for a few days with the jitter issue driving me crazy, the Logi options software and even the -not that ergonomic- physics (and its weight, it is heavy af), I returned it today. Yeah, when it comes to normal working status of the mouse, you even have to feel it comfortable to work for hours and hours. So it kinda subjective depending on the scenario. Sadly, I'm one of those who saw a lot of reviews only talking about the magic features, and get hyped with all those good looking workstations out there on insta, lol. For me, a simpler G603, also from logi, works 10 times better.
same here G603 is the best for me Gaming and typical office work plus can handle not 3 but 2 devices, so it is quite nice
I had to work so hard to find a video like this cos I didn't believe it was just me having this problem. Had to type in the phrase 'problem with mx3 precision' and hardly got any auto-completing lol. Thanks for this video Stu... will try it out with the receiver and hope for the best
I’m using a Magic Mouse 1 (in macOS) and a Logitech Pebble (in Bootcamp). The Magic Mouse works absolutely fine for me, only issue is the 1st Gen will turn off if give it a bump because the batteries will get dislodged. The Pebble is there mainly because Windows is hostile to the Magic Mouse (and the Magic Trackpad), and I like lower mice. The Pebble being a quiet mouse also pleases me. However it is unreliable in MacOS when connected with Bluetooth, it’s more reliable when in Windows but sometimes it has mis-clicks, when using the dongle it’s all fine. I’ll probably get a Magic Mouse 2 because I’m tired with that battery dislodging thing. I’m okay with how it charges. MacOS will inform the user when the battery is low, and the remaining juice can easily last a day or even more, just remember to charge it at night and it’ll be fine.
I'm buying the MX Master 3 and I'm having the same experience. Then I found your video. I wish I could see your video first before I bought my MX3.
Hey Stu! Thanks for the honest review. Unfortunately I saw this video too late. I got myself the MX 3S for Mac, but I'll try to return it. Do you have any suggestion for another bluetooth mouse I could try out?
use wire mouse! no other option!
Using the MX Master 3S on a few PCs. It has spoiled me and I can't go back. The main issue for me now is the bloatware. Why does a mouse need AI ? I moved the Bolt receiver to a different location and seems like it may have helped with the stuttering. The MX Mechanical keyboards are in storage since they have aggravating quirks as well (They miss the first keystroke on wake, even when plugged in). The batteries in the mice do not last very long; I'm replacing them using Ifixit kits.
My wife uses the 1 while I use the 3. They are both excellent, never an issue and I love that you can with the push of a button select the connection as I do use two computers sometimes and it works great. Have to say though that my wife uses windows while I use Linux. My previous mouse was the original mx580 which also worked great for 15 or so years
Hey I am planning to buy 2s for linux. No any issues of lagging like with MacOS with M1?
@@viktorg8346 no experience with the 2s, but no, I haven't noticed any lag. You might be able to use cable though because you can connect it to the usb-c port
Me too. I had a terrible adventure with mx3 mouse. Now I use a Magic Mouse 2. Just because it is sexy on my desktop and works. But I am thinking about switching back to Windows. I need a good mouse.
I have a similar problem, I own a Microsoft mouse and I use mac. The mouse was working perfectly until 8 months ago. I tried a second brand new mouse same computer and different computer. Same results.
My theory is, apple updated something in osx and just f**** up their bluetooth module for third party devices.
Is same problem, lagging, jittery etc…
This doesn’t happens with the magic mouse.
I had the same issue with my series 1 and it had the same lag on my Intel Mac, it’s not an M1 issue it’s a Logitech issue .
Also had lag issues on various windows laptops, Logitech support was as usual useless, for the price I’d expect a product that works. I feel many RUclipsrs don’t use the products they review and yes they do get caught up in MX fever
I’m a graphic designer and uses Mac every working day. (iMac 2019) I’m currently use mx master 3 and before that master 2. I haven’t had any problems that you are having.
👁👄👁 rub it in 😂
After lot of grief I found that in my case the jitter issue was not related to the software, it was the distance between the unifying receiver and the mouse. Seriously, put it about 6 inches away and it won’t do it ever again. I had to use a usb extension cable.
I was very tempted to buy the Logi MX Master Mouse today, I bought The Magic Mouse 2 yesterday, but took it back today. Currently using a Logitech B100 wired mouse.
What mouse are you using today after one year?
This one 👉 geni.us/LogiMXmaster3
There still nothing that comes close to functionality, despite the issues. I’m hoping that with the 4 they add wired use… would literally solve everything.
I found a solution to the Logitech mouse issue with the Mac Studio... if you use a USB-C to lightning converter to connect your mouse's USB receiver to then there are no issues. If you connect it to the USB C port, there's all kinds of skipping, lag, it's terrible... there is no disruption when you connect the receiver to the adaptor in the lightning port. 🐁
and how to solve on macbook pro M1 max?
There is a bug in my M1 Pro with my Mx Master 3s. When the computer sleeps, the mouse becomes laggy.
I have to restart the bluetooth module everytime throught terminal.
You can restart the Bluetooth module by typing "sudo pkill bluetoothd".
It worked for me.
using M350 (Logitech Pebble). Pretty neat for regular use, easily portable, completely silent. Issues I’ve faced are
1) lag while using on USB dongle
2) scroll wheel gets dirty pretty fast
Thank you! I had ordered the MX3 based on all the gushing RUclips reviews but my order was canceled. So I went onto Amazon to order it from there only to see all the terrible reviews contradicting all the raving RUclipsrs so I I found you when I searched to see if anyone on RUclips is actually being honest but this mouse.
i have the magic mouse and HATE it!! the edges hurt my hand. so i was hoping the 3s would be the solution, but this has me worried 😦
Using the M720. The thumb click for mission control is awesome. Really handy for all the windows I constantly need to switch through. I also have the mx master 2S but I prefer the M720's thumb click. Great review!
That is soooo true! I thought he sounds familiar 😂. Thanks Stu! Great review!
I used an MX Master 2S for years with both my Windows desktop and my M1 Macbook Air. I recently upgraded to an MX Master 3S, and use it with both of the same computers. I have had zero issues with either mouse on either machine. They are great mice in my experience, if a little bit costly.
No one ask for your experience
You argue mouses are subjective
You are just wrong
Good to know, u like 2s more or 3s?
thank you. you have chaned my mind. i planned to buy mx 3 for mini mac 2 but i changed my mind and i will buy apple magic mouse even it is small and may hurt my hand but atleast it still fully compatible with mac
Finally I found a video that kinda explains all the struggle I'm going through. I have an Macbook 2014 and an MX Master 2S. They work perfectly together. However, recently I bought an M1 Mac mini, and the problems started. The mouse simply disconnects for no apparent reason when using BT. And for over an week now it doesn't even connect to the computer. The only "solution" was to use the unifying receiver. That is so frustrating.
I’ve been using an MX Master 3 with my works laptop for months now and it’s been brilliant, amazing battery life.
Yeah the battery life is incredible!
Great review. I have also spent hours in trying to get my Logitech mice MX master 1 and 3 to work with my MacBook Pro 16 inch with the new processor. Now I use the external trackpad and is planning to buy the magic mouse too although the ergonomics are bad - but it works.
I used the Mx master 3 on a pc and it work flawlessly for three months, one day the scroll wheel just doesn't work , more like extremely lagging , since then change into a razer viper mini, which is not wireless but worked perfectly !(about two years).
I use the Magic Mouse 2 with iMac, do have an mx master 2s aswell but I like the swiping between pages/tabs etc that the Magic Mouse allows you to do on macOS . Maybe not very comfy to use but I like the functionality of it
Use a magic trackpad to the left of your keyboard, and a better mouse in your right hand (assuming ur right hand dominant)
With mx3 its not possible binding?
I have had the 1 for years, working fine. Recently after a couple of months with my new Mac Studio selection and other things became quite erratic. Bought the MX3 for Mac in order to solve this but could not even establish contact with Bluetooth. Saw your post and decided to return it immediately. Looking for a good alternative now
And i still am! 😭
I was literally just about to buy master 3 for my 2018 imac
Would the Logitech g502 x plus be any good
@@azgard8914 I wouldn't know but I now bought the Dell MS5320W which works fine on a Mac It is not as nicely curved as the MX but not too bad.
@@StusReviewsUK I now bought the Dell MS5320W which works fine on a Mac It is not as nicely curved as the MX but not too bad.
Glad someone talks about this issue. I bought the MX Master 3S for my MacBook M1 Pro and I was totally disappointed by the way it moves the cursor. If I try to make small circles with my trackpad it is totally smooth. With the MX Master, it is totally jittering. Find that very unpleasant and inconvenient to work, because hitting buttons on screen is impaired comparing with the trackpad. Even though I never experienced these jumps you had on yours. Sent my first back to Amazon and my new one is a bit better, but I think I'll try to use an external USB transmitter as you advised. Or I'll get my self an Apple mouse and try to use it plugged in ;)
A MacBook m1 user here! Can anyone recommend me a good mouse for small hands? (Hand length around 16cm).
- Palm/Claw grip
- Use for mostly productivity with some gaming (not too heavy and slow)
Much thanks!
I don't recommend this mouse either. I've used many Logitech mice over the years and they all somehow ceased to function correctly in about 2-3 years. My MX Master 3 isn't an exception - mine is about 18 months old now and the main scroll wheel (MagSpeed) has become so heavy and no longer spins freely. It is so heavy that I don't even want to use the wheel in ratchet mode any more. Tried everything I can (air duster etc) to clean the wheel without disassembling it but nothing seems to remedy the situation. Now my MX Master 3 is building muscles of my index finger every day.
Thank God someone finally said it, I am having same issues I sold it and got razer orochi v2, which is significantly better with Bluetooth connection
about 4 years ago I purchased a MX1 mouse - to go with my new Alienware laptop. It was horrible!! returned it back after 1 days use. I waited for the MX2 to come out and having no issues since. Also due to limited USB ports on laptops I wanted to use the BT connectivity. Last year I've switched to a MBP m1 max. The MX2 mouse is still good, connects quick via BT no lag or other issues, also really taking advantage of the device switching when jumping back to my Alienware from time to time. Only downside I have is the scroll wheel on the mouse got damaged I did a repair on it to keep me going, so I currently have no free scroll. Not too bad I can live with it, only when working late at night the scroll clicking noise seems really load. I think next upgrade for me will be the MX4 - if they do release one.
okay and what mouse to buy now?
did u buy any?
Thanks a lot for this review, I don't have a mac m1 just an old macbook. If looking for a mouse to use in between windows PC for work and the laptop for studies. Will this suffice because I'm conscious of wrist pain etc
You’d probably be okay I’m that case 👌
Hi Stu!
I not an expert on mice but I am an expert on sound. Try lifting your speakers up on mini stands as the tweeters should be at ear height. Hope that helps. 😉
I'm using the 3S and yeah, so done with it. I disagree with the complaints on the shape, accidentally hitting the horizontal wheel was an issue with the 2S. But the software sucks and the horizontal wheel is not responsive in all programs, even on Windows 10. Works excellently in video editing software though, that I will say, and it is a game changer. But the worst is the main buttons. Too little feedback. Sure it's great if you're using it in a classroom as they don't make any noise, but if you're occasionally gaming or drawing with it, nope nope nope.
I use the MX master 3 with my work Windows laptop, my iPad Pro and my M1 MB Pro and I dont have these issues, maybe I'm just lucky? I do wish that both the mouse and keyboard would change together when I press the keys on the keyboard instead of having to pick the mouse up to change channel, but apart from that its been flawless for me...
Sorry I can't be of any help but I figure a comment helps the RUclips algorithm...
I hate to recommend a different Logitech product after this review, but the Logitech G502 HERO is absolutely phenomenal. I've never had any issues with it, it has plenty of extra buttons that are very easy to access. While it doesn't have a sideways scroll wheel, you can click the middle scroll wheel left and right for sideways scrolling. I've really only used this mouse for gaming and some 3D modeling on a PC so I can't say how well it holds up on a mac, but I've had two of these mice over time and I think they really are great.
My deal breaker was the missing internal memory. The 502 has even 5! But the 502 has no BT. Got a Razer Basilisk instead.
I use the MX Master 3 with PC. Only complaint with it, as you pointed out, is its pretty high and ended up getting a wrist glide to go with it otherwise the ergonomics are crap. Having said that, it has worked well for me. Not sure it was worth the price, but its held up well.
I'm finding the mini version (mx anywhere) much better for ergonomics. Got 2 of them, one on my desk and one for the road.
I'm currently using the M2 Mac Studio. Which mouse would be a better choice: the Logitech MX Master 3S or the Magic Mouse?
IMHO, you can't go wrong with the Magic Mouse.
Is there any new update that solves these glitche and lagging problems of the mx master 3s on MacBook m1 computers?
I guess now they have resolved most issues, try the update on logitech software
Been using the MX Master Mouse for Mac with a M1 Mac Mini for a long while now and I have not experienced any of the issues that you mention
I'm having the issues he mentioned with my m1 MacBook and mx master 3s.
I'm at the same crossroads, I have had the Logitech MX Vertical mouse for over a year, I like it but I have the same problems on my Macbook pro M1, they have been partially solved with the unifier, it's not perfect at all, super annoying because it's an expensive mouse. Today the wheel has stopped working, I've tried to repair it and nothing worked!! As a graphics designer, I need an ergonomic mouse, so I was thinking to opt for the MX Master, but I don't want to have the same problems, especially if it doesn't even come with unifying. I hope we find some other similar mouse that is not Logitech, I really need it!! Thank you for the informative video, subscribing
Еrgonomics and durability are very important to me. I had a wired Open mouse with the Logitech logo, which worked for 20+ years. And it would have worked longer if I hadn’t broken the wire. During all this time, no double-click problems appeared. Now, while I'm looking for a mouse, I use the cheap Genius for $4. I was thinking about taking the Logitech G102, but after looking at the reviews I saw that many were complaining about the double click. I can't decide between wired and wireless. On the one hand, with a wired one there is less hassle, but the plus of wireless is comfort. a Also connect to several computers and a smartphone. I edit a lot of videos, so I need a mouse with a scroll button that can be used to click right and left, thereby moving the CTI by 1 frame. I looked through a lot of mice until I found one that combined all my requirements.
So glad to see an honest opinion about it!
I too was swayed by the numerous praise by RUclipsrs at the time, but I just never really got on with it.
It felt slightly cumbersome to use, and I would get weird wrist aches. Ended up selling it on eBay, and getting a Magic Trackpad instead.
Works smoothly, and I just can't do without the multi-touch gestures and speed in my everyday work.
Thanks for this video. I'm using a Magic Mouse and it's an absolute pain to switch it from my work MacBook to my m1 Mac mini. (I have to go through accessibility using key-mouse)
I was considering getting the MX 3 for its "seamless switching" between 3 different devices, no more!
Just connect the mouse with the lightning cable to the computer. Connected after a few seconds, boom
Yeah nah, doesn't work for mac mini 😞
Thanks, I wondered why I was having problems trying to connect to my Mac Mini, thanks to you, mine is being returned!
Finally! I have the same issue with mx master 3s for mac. And i just don't get it, apparently I am not the only person having issue with it.
Warning: Long post
Here’s my experience. I’m using a MacBook Air M1 with an external monitor and keyboard and Magic Mouse, iPad Gen 7, and an HP windows PC. For various reasons I am not willing to trash the Microsoft OS machine and the apps I am using there. The PC usage is with a K350 BT keyboard and M510 BT mouse. Both have been easy to use and very dependable, with long battery life (for me). My complaint after I got my Macbook was the constant shuffling of keyboards and mice when switching from one to the other. My prospective solution was an MX Keys and the MX3 mouse. Shortly after receiving both, I discovered Apple’s Universal Display feature. What a game-changer. Now the keyboard and Apple mouse can be used on both my M1 and iPad. Seamless usage, in my opinion. Super easy to use those two peripherals on the Apple devices. And the keyboard easily communicates with the PC when I need it. So now I have one keyboard, instead of two. Unlike you, I’m not yet disgusted with the Magic Mouse. It serves my needs well enough, but of course doesn’t work with the PC. So, should I open and use the MX3?
Well, I agree with you about many of the annoyances with that rodent. And, the M510 has not failed me over several years, so why trash it? If I switched to the MX3, I would be “flipping the switch” back and forth when switching machines anyway, so why waste that US$99, simply for more buttons that I may or may not make use of? Besides, I think it is a bit ugly.
So, I sent the unopened mouse back to Amazon for a refund, but kept the MX Keys. Superb keyboard for my usage, with easy switching among machines, long battery life in my experience, but a bit pricey at $120. When switching to the PC, I throw one switch on the keyboard and pick up the M510 and “Away we go” as Ralph Cramden used to say. One keyboard on my desk, and two mice. Plenty of room now.
You asked for it, and that’s my take on the subject. Thanks for the video, and your well-considered opinion.
I use the wired Logitech MX 518 and G400 on the Mac Studio with Sonoma 14.1.1.
Both mice actually worked well until Ventura.
With the last Sonoma update, however, the problems started. When moving objects on the desktop, they keep getting stuck. They can be moved, but these delays are annoying.
When I work with Adobe programs, there are display problems with the cursor and some tools. When work palettes are moved, they drag slowly as if on a rubber band. This was not the case before Sonoma. However, if I use the Magic Mouse, which is connected to the Mac via Bluetooth, I don't have these problems. Very strange. But I think the Magic Mouse is a real ergonomic disaster.
It doesn't matter whether I use the two Logitech mice with the Logitech software or with the universal driver USB Overdrive - the problems occur in both cases.
I already suspected that Apple might be deliberately preventing the use of third-party mice. But that is certainly wrong.
Light speed G502 is 🔥. The G502 and MX master 3 should have a baby. I use a separate knob for left handed sideways scrolling
I'm using an M1 MBP and Logitech MX Master 3s but I did not encounter any issues in terms of connectivity.
Currently using a MX Master 3 and haven't had any of the problems you've mentioned here. I do wish I would have grabbed a trackball from Loigtech, the MX ERGO. I used this mouse for a short time and it feels so much better. The gestures on the track pad are enough to merit not using a dedicated side scroll mouse, in my opinion. If it wasn't another $90, I'd switch.
The master 3 should have been a home run, but button placement really does it for me as well.
Are you using it with your MacBook ? I’m planning to get a decent mouse for my M1 Pro and dk which one to get. Any suggestion pls
The 2s has been working completely fine for me on an M1 max 16in (knock on wood). Certainly always looking for a good mouse! Always glad to have options.
So which mouse would you recommend? I’m experiencing all the issues you mentioning lol. I was tryna get the master 3s but I think I’m done with logintech.
get a wired mouse issue solved and many more options.
Which would you recommend for Macbook air m1 ?magic mouse 2, Mx Master 3 for mac or regular Mx master3 ??
Not sure why but my MX Master seems to work fine. No stuttering, and it charges via USB from the Mac fine (also m1 max chip).
I'm still replacing it with an MMO mouse for video editing, both because I don't like the ergos myself, and because the battery life and button placement aren't great.
Also, many mice I've used have SIDE scrolling with the main wheel. Just push it to one or the other side and viola.
I'm not sure if it would not work for some reason or other, but I know my Razor Naga has side scrolling and it's awesome in DaVinci.
14:10 I came here for an answer and left with the same problem.. if you worked at apple for 10 years, I give up lol
I've used the Logitech MX Masters - bluetooth and wirelessly with dongles. Lag / stutters.
I use a PC for gaming also which lets me be a bit picky on mouse latency
I have a 14 inch Macbook Pro M1 Max (had M1 also) and the only mouse that has worked without lag has been the magic mouse or trackpad - but the ergonomics of the magic mouse just isn't it..
9:38 "it's a great example of where obsessing about a products style has had a detrimental effect to the actual funcitionality and usage of the product"
I had to buy a new keyboard and mouse as was given a mac for work. Have had an MX Master in the past and it worked fine for years until the charging contacts died.
This time I bought a logitech triathlon mouse and keyboard set. Not particularly happy with the keyboard and had similar issues to those you mentioned with the unifying receiver. In the end they are both now running on bluetooth. Wasn't sure if it was something to do with it having to go theough a usb a to usb c hub or that Mac's (in my opinion) have an inferior operating system.
The mouse is just ok, not really what you need for your role but for general office it is fine. I needed the ability to swap between machines which is why I bought the set. Mac/PC/Pi.
The rubber coating of my MX Master 3 started disintegrating within two years with normal use. Making the surface feel sticky and gross to the touch. I bought a Magic Mouse to try and get used to that. I wish Logitech would make a MX Master with a hard plastic coating that is easy to clean.
I use the MX Master (Amazon version) on Mac M1 mini. No stuttering on Bluetooth or Unified. I did have to have one replaced as the gesture button kept getting physically stuck. No problems with jitter on either though, 9-5, Mon-Fri. I think yours are faulty.
That’s the exact version I bought as well… and nothing but problems!
I’m pretty sure it’s not broken, because it’s both of mine and many many other peoples apparently;
www.reddit.com/search?q=R%2Fmac%20mx%20master%20jitter
But it makes me wonder… why do some work and some don’t? 👀
So, this is a bit of a long shot, but my Mac mini is mounted to the underside of my desk, upside-down in a custom holder, basically right below where my mouse is on the other side of the desk. I wonder if that means it’s in just the right orientation for there to be no metal between the mini and the mouse?? Just a thought.
@@Wawacatfloppa that’s definitely a likely reason for it! It’ll certainly help that’s for sure!
I use the Apple Magic Mouse and it’s great apart from several things. No quick change to another device. What often drives me mad is that I often accidentally swipe sideways resulting in a previous page or previous video. I don’t like that, hence landing here while researching an alternative.
I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. I have been in a love/hate relationship with the MX Master mice since version 1 also. I currently have the MX Master 2S and have been delaying replacing it. I have a Mac Mini M1 and share your frustrations with it's bluetooth issues. I finally seem to have resolved my issues with the stuttering by connecting only through the 2.4mhz dongle. I also believe the stuttering is caused by interference by nearby wireless signals, so have re-positioned everything until the issue went away. My dream mouse would be an MX Master version 1 with the Logitech Lightspeed connection. Hopefully someday it will happen.
Quite a few people are mentioning that fixed the issues… unfortunately mine is persisting! I’m wondering if it’s wireless interference or something like that!
@@StusReviewsUK The only issue i ever had with the Master series of mice was when the dongle thing was in the back of the PC. It stuttered a bit here and there etc. I got a usb extension cable and ran it with the dongle in the end so it was behind the desk but in line with where the mouse is. Never had that issue since. Might be worth a try at least.
@@StusReviewsUK I got a usb 2 cable and tacked it to the wall totally away from everything and it more or less completely solved it.
Great review, very entertaining and extremely informative. Thank you, Stu!!
I don't use a mouse with my Apple M1 laptop, I have got bad arthritis in my hands, unfortunately. I am thinking about getting an Apple Magic Trackpad, to make my life easier. What do you think, can you think of any cheaper alternatives for myself?
You might find the trackpad just as bad. I found that using one with an imac i would get 'claw hand' quite quickly, and my palm would start to ache... but everyone is different! Fortunately apple have a great 14 day return policy 😉
Im using the MX master 3, have had lots of lag and disconnects on Mac.
Another issue is the unifying receiver is USB-A. So you can't connect it to a Mac without an adapter
probably you didnt buy the Mac version. it works perfectly on my M2 pro
Been using a logitech mx master 3 with macbook pro M2max and works like a charm. I dont suffer any of your mentioned drawbacks... for me its the perfect mouse. maybe the problem is not the mouse... just saying....
I can ‘just say’ the sky is green… that doesn’t make all the other people who know the sky is blue, wrong though…
It might blow your mind to learn that you can not have an issue, whilst it can also be true that simultaneously many others can.
Do you know what… maybe you’re wrong, given the level of complaints about this mouse in the comments. Maybe the problem is not me, it’s denialists like you… Just saying…
@@StusReviewsUKhave you tried the 3S version? If so, did you have the same problems?
Logitech M720 is brilliant and cheap. Connects extremely reliably over Bluetooth to my M1 MacBook Air. Never have a problem with it not tracking.
I love my M720, the pc switch button is 🔥
bro that info might have been ok back then, but today there is no comparison. S3 is as good as it gets. i have zero issues with flow and no lag nothing. agree about apple and all but logitech MX S3 is the best hand down. not restarting nothing. works perfect. thanks for the great details! enjoyed watching your video. cheers
Two cheap Tecknet MGQ424, one for my Macbook Air and another for my Surface Pro 6. I've had them for years and they work fine on wood. They take AAA cells and I just keep a couple of cells fully charged ready to swap in. That is more convenient than having to charge a mouse when it runs out. For my Dell deskside I use the wired mouse that came with it and a USB switch to switch everything to a Surface dock. I have a Logitech ball mouse but I never use it. I hate trackpads.
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I wonder if the new MX Master 3 for Business (with new „logi bolt“ wireless connector) is solving your issues? Maybe, Logitech can provide you with a sample?
Logitech Support has a YT video saying that Logi Bolt has max. latency in noisy environments in macOS of 4ms, compared to 57ms to 610ms with other, unnamed products.
I’m still using my Logitech M275, it’s pretty old but I just absolutely love how it feels, the scroll wheel is starting to fail tho so i bought a master mx 3s, i’m still keeping the old one tho. It literally has a smooth spot from my finger on my left mouse button xD
I use a MX Keys & MX Master 3 via unifying receiver on a Windows PC environment, both also have latest firmware installed and less than 1m from receiver. My MX Master 3 will often suffer from cursor lag, it seems to occur when the PC is under minor load, it makes playing RTS games a nightmare. I suspect when the PC is under load it reduces priority to requests on the USB bus so the mouse doesnt get updates sent to it as frequently (Educated guess). I also dislike the magwheel as it can often be too laggy to switch between ratchet and smooth scroll automatically leading to a inconsistent scrolling experience. My final pet hate is Logitech boasting about 'Logitech Flow / Options' this feature is useless to people that use these peripherals on a work laptop where third party software is not allowed to be installed on the machine by restrictions imposed by your IT dept. Glad to see a RUclipsr being honest and not just praising this mouse, it has flaws just like most other products. The best feature of these 2x items is their ability to switch between upto 3 machines and thats why ill keep them as it saves me needing to get a KVM or alternative.