USS George Washington (CVN 73) dropping anchor to the red shot
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Sea and Anchor during the transit to Japan in 2008. 1st Lt tries to show off but instead almost loses the anchor chain. The only thing stopping the 60,000lbs of anchor and chain is the shackle attached to the bulkhead in the chain locker.
The cameraman moved away the moment he saw the red chain shot for a reason: mortal fear
In 1981, while on Gonzo Station in the North Arabian Sea aboard USS America (CV-66), I was up in the forecastle observing an anchoring evolution. We were dropping the hook in order to spend a few days at anchor to clean the ship. As I watched the anchor chain come out of the haws pipe at increasingly rapid speed, and saw the Chief Boatswain frantically signaling to stop the windlass rotation, the last two shots (90 feet each of yellow followed by red painted chain) run out, I dove to the deck and heard the last several feet of chain (each link was about 4 feet long and weighed 386 lbs) whip violently around the forecastle taking out all in its way as it disappeared into the ocean below. Miraculously, none of the 20 or so crew who were in the forecastle at the time were injured. But, the flying chain did wipe out all of the ceremonial stuff that usually resides in the forecastle. About six months later, a salvage barge came into the Norfolk Naval Shipyard in Portsmouth where we were undergoing refit and delivered our golden anchor that we had deposited on the bottom of the Indian Ocean.
Great story - for some reason RUclips is sending a lot of folks/laypeople down a rabbit hole of lost anchor videos the last few days. It's really interesting and terrifying. That amount of metal is obviously stupidly dangerous whipping around like that. And obviously insanely expensive. I was wondering if they were generally recovered on account of the value of the anchor and chains. Glad to hear that everyone came out of the incident you experienced in one piece. Cheers, and thanks for your service.
I used to go up and watch them drop anchor when I was on the USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN-71) and I never seen uncontrolled burst like I saw here. It was always a slow, steady releasing of the chain in a very controlled speed, almost a steady walk speed. Of course they called out the shot on deck as it was feeding out, but none of the quick burst of chain deployment I see here. This was chaotic.
Google "Chain Locker"
Pretty self explanatory.. but there are good diagrams online.
It seems the salvage guys never have to worry about a loss of work
My dad was on the America at that time he told me about this.
They faired better than the boys on the USS Tarawa!
they sure did. their anchor chain is at the bottom of the bay!
Yes, their chain and anchor is at the bottom but there is always (provided that person has done their job) a small buoy tied to the anchor - always indicating the location for later salvage - thus below the America getting their anchor back.
You watched it too eh? haha!
BOYS?!
I'm glad to see this video. I personally installed the base of the capstan on that deck. That was in 1990 (I think). I moved to a different location (in the shipyard) shortly after that so I didn't get to be in that space when the moving parts of the capstan were installed. Nice to see what it looks like
+Richard Taylor That is really cool! (no sarcasm) Must be kind of weird seeing this for the first time and thinking "huh, I installed that"
Cleanest Anchor chain that I have ever seen. Even after a overhaul that included sand blasting the chain and repainting and rehabbing the chain locker the anchor chain still threw up a cloud of red rust every time it was dropped.
+Randy J The newest ship on the navy=newest chain too.
Former BM1 here, when you drop an anchor it takes a minimum of 4 people and the POIC. Here is how it goes. When the anchor is in the hawsepipe, there are 2 stoppers that are basically holding the weight of the chain. So when you get ready to drop, you release the second stopper, and the brake is set. Then you release the brake so that the stopper is holding the anchor all on its own. You'll see the chain on deck get slack, The stopper has a bar that closes a jaw, There is a pin that keeps the bar in place. When the ship is in position begins to back down. Once it is moving the OOD will yell "Let go the portd anchor" The phone talker repeats the order. One man pulls the pin with a lanyard attached to it and then the other takes a sledge hammer and knocks the bail off and the chain begins to run. The other man uses the lanyard to pull the stopper out from under the chain.
In the Navy, the First Lieutenant is the officer who is in charge of the deck department. On some ships with a big deck department, it may be a LCDR who holds the title, on small ships it may be an ensign or a Lt(jg). First Lieutenant is a TITLE, not a rank. Usually a ship like a gator or oiler or ships with a lot of people in the Deck Department, there will be a First Lieutenant and then a Ship's Bosun who is directly below the First Looey in the food chain. I was on a gator, we had an 0-4 who was First Lt. a CWO2 as the Bosun, a BMCM as the leading chief, a BMCS and 2 BMC and 5 BM1 and 9 BM2. I think we had 12 BM3's. Point is, if you were a non rate and screwed up, there were a lot of people that were going to take a bite out of your ass.
+jesterd14 Thanks for the description. Given the lethality should anything go wrong, it is surprising in this age of automation that such a process remains a manual one.
+jesterd14 Get 'em Boats...I spent a lot of time on and AOE back in the day. Deck department worked their asses off UNREP'ing for days on end. BZ...
+jesterd14 Ahoy there Semen, thanks for that, I was a gknd grund for over j7.3 yrs working on prt's, jdn's quarter past sixes, tpdq's and finally was a 373 half link on brimmers.
When I retired I held the rank of Big Cheese.
my mate Ron was a 27-9 er and he would always kick the libbel as hard as he could to stop the jimmer springing up!
Many a time I said to him one of these days you are gonna p7 the jimmer until it takes you, the 1236578 and the p20 ripper over the side with all hands.
Always a good story for the grandkids I suppose?
Anyway, I am not a number, my name is Seven!
Our 1st LT. is a STS3...
Thats because Subs are retarded.
I've watched a couple of these anchor dropping vids and think I've got it. The whole point of the exercise is to get everyone to stand in a position where they are guaranteed to be hit and killed by a whipping chain if anything breaks or the end comes away. Ropes and chains are pretty deadly when they start to move at speed.
Especially when the chain weighs 12,000lbs per "shot" and a shot is the length of chain between each white section
@@killman369547 fast kill. you don't have to worry. in this video i see at least 3 -4 people who got killed.
many of the comments are about why use so many people to do a thing when on a merchant ship the same job is done with only two people. Military doctrine is redundancy and abiity to do things manually. If an automated system were to shit the bed, folks will have to know how to do without the automated gear...this would be in every department on board - much of what happens is for training, so the crew will know how to do things when things get real. The language used in thse conditions is almost a specialized language, unintelligible to us, but those who are doing the job know the script and so will understand what is said. Each thing is repeated, to make sure it is right, and everyone else is listening, just to make sure.
I forever fear the day When things get real in the anchor room!
If systems on modern military hardware completely shit the bed in warfare you're probably going to end up on the bottom anyway in all fairness. You could probably build a more reliable system than this that's also redundant if you actually wanted to. "Military doctrine" is redundant if your CIWS, FCS and radar are all down or if somebody put a big hole in the ship that managed to destroy either an automated anchor system or a manual one. Issue is far more likely to be either age of the ship or cost.
Thomas Koehler a
Well said. That's why they give you a $99 tool kit to take care of an 8.5 million dollar tank. You ain't gonna have no fancy air tools in combat.
@@streaky81 if money is spent to make it more modern make it my weapons systems please
Lots of questions about ship anchors. These links have a color code - simplified, the white links (shots) represent 90' or 15 fathoms sections. A typical large ship carries 12 shots of link. It is stored in a room (chain locker). The last links in the chain are colored yellow (warning!) immediately followed by red links (Danger!), which is the last length. The chain is attached to the lower deck via a padeye link. We all hope that will not rip loose. The goal is to regulate the drop brake lowering the anchor slowly so you don't get a runaway. If the brake gets too hot, it may lose it's friction (like your brake fade on a car). Then things becomes exceedingly dangerous (you'll note deck hands running for protection in other videos).
I am under the impression that the padeye is engineered to let go (i.e. fail) if the chain runs away, to preserve the ship from having a chunk ripped from its structure. Is that not true?
Like the bolts that hold aircraft engines to the wings of commercial airliners. If something disastrous happens to the engine, you want those bolts to fail and save the wing. So the strength of the two or four bolts is carefully engineered so that that happens.
@@Lost-In-Blank to address this more closely - design or not, the padeye will fail! On a cruise ship, we got a below decks tour; which included the anchor chain bunker. I talked to the captain about anchor drop and chain runaway. He wisely explained that seamen that drop excessive lengths of chains are “unwise.” Sea depths are monitored and only manageable lengths of drop are performed. Sounds good to me.
One person is a phone talker relaying information to the Bridge. (female voice) The other person talking is the Officer in Charge.
when you hear up and down that is referring to the way that the chain is going. to give an anchor report you use a clock to report the direction of the chain, and the condition of the chain. So you may say, "Anchor is 4 o'clock light strain. " or "Anchor is 2 o'clock heavy strain. " Meaning that the chain is out of the water on an angle and the chain is shaking under the strain. On a calm day you might report, "Anchor is at 12 o'clock, up and down." Meaning no strain on the chain. When you just dropped the anchor you need to let the OOD know if there is strain on the chain, because you may have to set out more chain.
+jesterd14 thank you for explaining that!
I worked the brake on DLG-26 and trust me, when you see that red link appear you better hope it holds down below. those links on the carrier are about 350lbs. apiece. the ones on DLG were about 35lbs. apiece. but they would come out of that hause pipe hell bent for election. the wildcat would spin like a top and the chain would come out of the pipe so fast it would literally be about four feet in the air. I would be stationed about six to eight feet away from the wildcat, and be showered with paint chips. and when the Master Chief Bos'nmate Charlie Attaway would close his hand to a fist, I'd turn that brake wheel as fast as I could to stop that chain with a loud slap on the deck. it was a ball to watch the pelican hook release that chain, and my eyes were only on one guy, the Chief.
I was an STG on CGN-35 and 39. I work with a guy now who was on the Belknap. STG type. Dropping anchor is not for the weak of heart.
I've worked on the Emma Maersk a 156,907 DWT container vessel as a second mate and I only dropped ours once, but I tell you what it was one of the most intense things I have done in all my of shipping at sea.
erynthegrey I was in from 68-72, did all four years on "Ma Bell". all those ships were later designated CG's. go figure? all four years my "anchor" detail station was the brake operator. started out E-2 and finished E-5, it was a always a thrill to make that chain bang on the deck.
I got to see the Belknap in her autumn years in Norfolk (1989-1991), and finding out about the incident with the USS Kennedy made it very sobering to see her tied up there.
-former DDG-23 (Richard E. Byrd) guy here, also finished as an E-5.
They are not secured down below. You don't need the ship's innards torn out in addition to losing the anchor.
Spent four years an two different carriers and never witnessed this.....incredible. Why did they release even more chain when the yellow warning chain was already visible?
+gtc1961 If what I read in the other comments are correct, they continued to report that it was no strain on the chain, so I guess they didn't hit the bottom yet and wanted to try fully extended.. If you listen closely you can hear them saying take it slow several times, but the break guys let out too much break before it started to move, hence why they dropped to much.
If they didn't hit the bottom yet and there's no strain on the chain, then there's no point in fully extending the chain, you can't anchor with the chain vertical.
All these chain videos seem to boil down to having idiots operating the brake. You can't teach an idiot "do it gradually, wait and see."
@@aluisious
I don't think you have any understanding whatsoever of large ship anchor operations. You aren't finessing over a hundred tons of anchor and chain. Anybody that thinks that's realistic is just delusional.
@@dougmc666 correct. but hey some lieutenants are stupid.
1 shot of chain=90ft (15 fathoms)
Each shot of chain is seperated by a master link painted red, with one link painted white to represented the number of shots paid out. For instance, with four shots on deck, you'd have a red master link and four white links painted on each side of the master link.
The second to last shot is called the warning shot, and is painted yellow
The last shot is called the danger shot, and is painted red.
Dunno if it was posted, but that's how we do it on merchant ships
I've took a picture here with my baby g,,,, this 2012-5 ....thanks for bringing me here my love....
Drop captain in Pattaya, Thailand - USS Independence CV 62. I’ve participated in many a anchor drops in my day. The video was exhilarating to watch. Looks routine, but if one thing goes wrong,…well…
LOL for proper operation and safety, make sure that there are 15 people standing around in close proximity to heavy moving equipment, and have them all yell and talk over each other.
Never seen anything like it
Typical for any navy evolution. Everyone with a chevron in Deck Dept thinks they're in charge
A lot of them were combat camera and such I would imagine.
That looks and sounds fun. "Great big chain goes up and down!" "Great big chain goes up and down!" "Great big chain goes up and down!" "11:00, Last Train!" "11:00, Last Train!" "11:00 Last Train!".
Its called a Chain Locker. Its basically a big void that is enclosed deep in the bow. There is no reel, it just unpiles on the way out and piles up on the way back in. It really is that simple. Ive gone into a chain locker while in the yards and its a nasty place.
My old ship!! I was onboard from Jan of '93- Oct of '96, JUST missed being a Plankowner, but was on her Maiden Voyage..when I was in Weapons Dept (first W Div, then G-1, then G-4, THEN G-3 LOl..I crossrated to HT as PO3) I stood a few watches with a .45 and M500 12 gauge to repel any chain climbers...(with order to blast anyone off the chain if they were climbing it when we had anchor dropped in port..) right in this very foc'sle.
Thanks for your service Kris
I doubt the bulk head attachment would stop a runaway chain. In another video, it is explained that the bulkhead attachment is supposed to fail so that the bulkhead is not significantly damaged and the chain just runs away.
What's the point of having people standing close to the running chain with arms held out? On cargo ships we are taught to stand well clear. Is this just a military thing? Looks unsafe to me.
This way they can all grab the chain in case the brake fails ^^
miniplaat Really !! LMFAO
+miniplaat I thought they were to flap those arms to fly outta there if the chain breaks. But damn yours was funny.
It's weird how the military gets people killed in such high numbers, isn't it?
Someone better be thanking the shipyard worker who welded that shackle to the bulkhead in the chain locker.
Semper Fi Admiral, sir... We regret to inform you that the guys turned an aircraft carrier inside out sir!
For what it's worth, it wasn't the bitter end (final chain link) that stopped this anchor, but the brake.
As was alluded to by the other replies, the bitter end, while still attached to the bottom side of the chain locker, is designed to break away instead of knocking a hole in the ship.
Better to lose the anchor and chain than to flood your ship and have to scramble to prevent a catastrophe for the entire ship.
They don't look like they know what they're doing.
That chain doesn't get run out very often, it is coming out of the chain locker clean and painted. Watch the Tarawa video and it is all rust and dust and shit with each shot the only bit painted.
Bei uns war es Brauch den Steuerbord - Anker nur in Heimatgewässern zu verwenden und den Backbord - Anker unterwegs
( außer in Notfällen natürlich )
that dude is loco for standing that close to chain
My rack was literally just behind the wall on the other side of the mural. Best believe I knew when we were pulling into port. It was a really loud alarm clock.
My rack was a couple feet just under the helo deck (different ship, obviously), with pallets of shit slamming everywhere during unrep. Anyway, I don't remember ever being allowed to be in my rack during sea and anchor detail. My job was to man the anchor windlass room. As I remember it, they always just let out the damn thing full speed. Wow. That was 40 years ago, but I can still remember THAT sound!
I counted nine people hanging about. How many were hollering I don't know. How many ran for cover at the end? ALL of them.
Seeing yellow, the warning shot, is very rare. Seeing red, the danger shot, means run. The only time I have seen the danger shot is when removing the anchor chain in the yards. Id say in over 150 anchorings, I never saw red. I saw yellow count it...twice. Both times was because of overzealous backing down by a CO. Anyone who is easy with going to yellow or red, is showing off.
Actually, in this case the head of the Deck Dept. is called the 1st LT and he is usually an 0-4 (Lt. Commander) on a Carrier.
Here is a thought: get those folks ALL out of the area and use color cameras and noise cancelling intercom headphones like everywhere else on the ship to monitor and control the entire movement of the chain, windlass etc via remote control. There is NOTHING anyone can do in that room if the chain breaks except get killed.
Gizmologist1 Good suggestions, however, that was not a 'room,' in the navy it is either a space or a compartment.
George Dean I stand corrected. TY. I watched this video again just now and it amazes me how anyone could be so stupid as to "organize such a large group into such a dangerous area when AFAIC, there is no need for ANYONE to be in that compartment while the chain is in motion - either retrieving or dropping anchor. The entire operation could easily be achieved by one person in a safe area, nowhere near the chain. If any navy personnel wish to explain why that is not possible, I would love to hear it.
+Gizmologist1 For one, there are no noise cancelling intercom headphones, the phones you see are sound powered, no electricity powering them so if the system is damaged in battle they still work. It's a step up from the pipes you see in old Donald Duck or Popeye cartoons.
A lot of those people are observers there for training on how to drop anchor, there are 2 guys on the brake wheel, the officer in charge, a safety observer, the guy with the camera obviously...
Maybe future ships will take your suggestions, but most of these ships are at least 10 years old and some were built in the 70's. Also the forecastle is used a lot in ceremonies and a lot of pride is taken in keeping it ship shape.
They know exactly what they are doing 99.9% of the time, what looks like a clusterfart is actually a well oiled system of man and machine. Lots of stuff on ship is still very low tech so it can work even if the ship is half sinking.
+Russell, I am in the electronics industry and work extensively with audio, video and remote controls. Sound powered phones are connected with cabling, just the same as all DC powered phones or analo phones using dynamic microphones. Sound powered phone operation can easily be paralleled with powered phone systems. The method of operation of the intercoms is of zero consequence in the SAFE operation of the anchor windlass.
It appears that only one person is on the com to the bridge to receive orders to drop anchor, hold or to hoist the anchor. The needless activity of yelling and repeating the commands so many times and in such a noisy environment is silly and usless, IMO.
As I said, there is ZERO need for anyone to be near the chain as it is dropped or hoisted. The other issue is having so many people standing by to get killed or maimed in a totally unsafe location. The biggest of ships is controlled by digital indicators and little wheels or joysticks that communicate electrically from the bridge to the rudder control system and then to the vavlves on the hydraulic rams or, in an emergency, by redundant hydraulic systems and a duplicate control system in the engine room. If the ships engine and steering can be remotely controlled, so can the anchor movement.
+Gizmologist1 yes they could just use the newer tech and use the spp as backup, but then you have to train everyone one two types of equipment. the electronics require charging and batteries and if the ship is damagedand electric is not available, spp are still likely to work provided that section of the network was not cut or an open plug under water.
regardless, the're are dangers all over a Navy ship and battle readiness trumps ease of use and yes, sometimes safety
11 o'clock icecream!😂
the guys standing on the right hand side would have been killed or whacked severely if they lost the anchor and the chain whipped around at the end ! am I mistaken?? that chain would have swung around before disappearing into the ocean
No, you're not mistaken. Many sailors have lost their lives when an anchor chain goes into free fall. The same thing happens on the flight deck of an aircraft carrier when the arresting cable snaps in two and both ends go whipping up the flight deck mowing down sailors.
Difference is you need people on the flight deck during operations. There's no reason for anyone to be in the room with the chain, there is nothing useful they could be doing. "Everyone gather around this dangerous shit and watch in case something bad happens, we will need an exciting headline about dead sailors."
Of course the hydraulic brake would stop the chain at full run, that's what they were designed to do. I highly doubt, however, that your claim of "The only thing stopping the 60,000lbs of anchor and chain is the shackle attached to the bulkhead in the chain locker" is accurate. When we sank the USS Mt. Vernon, we let the anchor go like that and it ripped that shackle and half the bulkhead right around windlass.
First Lieutenant in the Navy is not a rank, it is a position. The First Lieutenant is the Division Officer or Department Head for Deck Division/Department depending on the size of the ship. A Destroyer or Cruiser will usually have a Ensign or jG as Divo/1stLT. Big Decks like LHDs and Carriers will have LtCmdr or Warrant as DH/1stLT.
Just wondering why I can see that guy's bald head, when he is suppose to be wearing a hard hat.
He's the safety officer.....
@@jonchristensen1407 Clearly not taking his job seriously.
Came over from Trump's cabinet!
@@jonchristensen1407 He was the 1st LT, the Deck Department Head, not the Safety.
@@frackratsfenorki3689 I was thinking it was the “I’ve been doing this shit for 28 years, say something to me!” master chief. 😂😂
The handbrake used by the brakemen, the 2 guys turning the wheel furiously, is not hydraulic. The wildcat brake is a band around the drum under the windlass on the shaft. Turning the wheel tightens or loosens the band via a screw and turnbuckle. This break solely uses friction and nothing else. When the wildcat is disengaged from the windlass drive it is free to spin basically. The tightening of the band around the drum is all that controls it. Its dirt simple.
Is there another way to do it or is it too much mass to control any other way? A motor would be able to spin that thing a lot faster. It is still ancient technology.
@@bg147 Well you could control it. The windlass will turn both ways under power, meaning it can raise and lower the anchor. But there are 2 problems with using the windlass to turn down the anchor: one is the weight involved which makes the raising and lowering very slow, two is related to one in that when you drop the anchor you want it to hit the bottom with force so it can dig in.
@@frackratsfenorki3689 Oh, I see. That is a lot of weight.
The yelling is various things. The Rig Captain calling out orders to the brake operators or reports to the sound powered phone operator talking to the bridge and their repeat backs, The brake operators calling out the number of turns they are taking off or putting on the manual brake. Yellow shot is the warning shot and Red shot is the Danger shot. There is enough chain in one shot to stretch from the chain locker to where the chain goes through the deck towards the water.
I find this video puzzling. It fills my mind with questions. What is the significance of the blue, yellow, and white helmets? And why are so many people standing around with their arms held straight out as if they're either about to do jumping jacks, or are attempting to block someone from passing? And while I can figure out that "11 O'Clock, light strain" indicates the angle and stress of the anchor chain, what is the meaning of "Ei jei jei jum jow!" and "Four shots on deck!"? And what earthly use is it having 7 persons standing around in a dangerous area when only 1 of them is actually controlling anchor deployment? I can see having 1 person controlling the chain, 1 person relaying orders from the bridge, and 1 person observing the chain angle and tension... but the other 4 persons appear to be doing nothing. And, what would have happened had the brakeman *not* been able to stop the chain before it reached its end? Are there any Navy folk here who could explain these things?
there are 6 feet in a fathom and 15 fathoms in a shot of chain aka 90 feet of chain in one shot. When they say 4 shots on deck they mean there are 360 feet of chain paid out.
Navy here. The blue hardhats are for the riggers, capstan operators, and brakemen (the people who set up and disassemble the housing and riding stopper/people who set the brake and move for the wildcat) The yellow ones are for the POIC (petty officer in charge; makes sure the anchoring evolution goes smoothly) and the white hardhats are for chiefs/officers/safety's (safety's supervise the POIC and make sure everything is safe) The bit about the arms out is for the POIC (yellow hardhat) to signal to the brakeman and capstan operator which speed to raise/lower the anchor chain (since it takes place in a compartment, the sound of the chain outweighs the sound of spoken mouth. Hand signals are a must.)
"Ei jei jei jum jow!" I have no idea what that means, I've never heard it used before.
Four shots on deck means that they have 360 feet of anchor chain paid out. 6 feet are in a fathom, and 15 fathoms equal one shot of anchor chain which is 90 feet. 90 x 4 = 360. I can't attest for the people standing around though, the POIC or safety should have been said something about. Anchor chain is something you do NOT mess around with
If you wanna see what would happen if the anchor had kept paying out and the chain was ripped from the bulkhead, look up 'USS Tarawa Loses Anchor' on RUclips.
Hope I cleared everything up.
HPNomad : Thanks for the clarifications. I did find the Tarawa video. In *that* video, the end of that chain was really whipping around as the chain exited the boat, smashing into steel uprights and spraying sparks; if a person had been standing there, he would have been torn apart. In *this* video, looks like the brakemen had better control over the brake and were able to bring the chain to a halt within 1 second. Depending on where exactly the brake clamps are located, I figure they had 10 to 30 feet of chain to spare. Which isn't much.
HPNomad : A for "ei jei jei jum jow", that's just what it sounded like to me. I'm sure they're using English words, but I just can't make out what they are, what with the live acoustics and background noise. "HHA dumb cow"? "A may stay come now"? I can't think of words that sound like that that would make sense in the context of deploying an anchor. Whatever it is, it appears to be an oft-used phrase, as they say it several times.
+Dave Washere sorry very late answer, but usually they give update really often about the strain on the chain, basically it means "everything is calm and the chain is straight"
This is 1 reason I prefer the infantry.
so, it takes about 50 sailors shouting at each other to cock up the dropping of an anchor!Gawd help us!
Interesting to read the comments. One point I noted - when the danger shot starts to spool out, the boss gives the signal to stop. When the chain doesn't stop at once, the camera guy is on the move! I'd be right behind him, if I were even still in there!! :-)
But notice he is on the move because the chain didn't stop immediately when he gave the signal. It takes time of people to act, and time for the huge momentum of the chain to be cancelled out. He should have expected it to take 2-3 seconds to stop. *But he was frightened when it did.*
It must be me but I cannot understand a single word they are shouting. What do they shout out ?
I served in this ship from '96 to '99, this was a familiar site. I wonder how deep the water was where they dropped anchor at.
Imagine the years of training!
The shackle will not hold the anchor chain period. It is designed to have a breaking strength. The shackle will have a lower breaking strength than the pad eye. The force of just the weight of one shot would likely break the shackle.
The First LT in the Navy is in charge of the Deck force. It has nothing to do with his/her rank. On a Carrier the 1stLT is usually a Commander (LTCOL in the Army)
Come on guys , its easy to fish up the anchor chain. its just like fishing up fibre optic cable...
+LeonG ouch.
lol
and there were people standing right where that chain would have slammed into.
Right On Go Army!
When you are the POIC on an anchor detail you simply have to yell. Especially on a ship with an enclosed focsle and a large chain. Even on a Destroyer I yelled. The situation is usually bordering frantic. You need to shout to shock those around you into hearing every command. It also shocks you into a better awareness. Basically it keeps everyone on their toes and eliminates chances things arent heard.
RUclips says the Video is 1Day,11h,31min,41secs long. :D
Must be a bug, anyone else got this?
He IS the First Lt. if he is the senior Deck Officer of the ship, and that capstain scares me...................;-D
Empire building. Navies have been doing it for a long time. You could automate the whole thing so it only took 3 people and all 3 people would be stationed out of harm's way. But then you'd lose 12 people from your headcount. Do that throughout the ship and you'd be captain of a ship with 3,000 sailors instead of 6,000. Not so prestigious.
Its like Chinese whispers with all those people repeating everything repeating everything repeating everything
I think people are always curious to play with the fire! Warning shot on deck....go and lets try full extension!!!... dont come to quickly! ...wow...this danger shot was quiet rushing and on the edge of desaster.... why not losen the break for the very, very laaaaaast fathorn?? It's so tempting!....think they should enlarge the scale and add more colors....yellow, orange, red and finally ....black with white skulls for the death shoot. xD
The anchor and the length of chain already landed on the bottom are no longer pulling on the chain. It is only the part of the chain that is suspended that is pulling out the chain. The only time that the entire chain and anchor would be pulling would be if the ship was in water that was deeper than the length of the anchor chain.
If the chain stops, you don't keep slacking off the brake. You first investigate to find out what is caught and hanging up the chain. Total rookie mistake.
+John Ferguson It is not the static energy of the chain which is the problem - it is the speed (that old thing about mass * speed * speed) of the moving part of the chain.
Stefan Skoglund But, the mass is the suspended mass. The chain sitting on the bottom of the sea is at rest and the chain sitting on the bottom of the locker isn't moving.
+John Ferguson The problem is the speed of the large amount of moving mass from the area of the capstan to the bottom.
I like to think about a freight train who is descending a hill - go to fast and it becomes impossible to control things.
Depending of hill length and grade and brake performance to fast could be as low as 4 mph (i exagerate a little.)
Go slow - you control things -- allow the speed to increase thru a certain value - NATURE now has the control and you my friend is along for a RIDE !
That'll be fixed on the new ships when the brake is controlled by Siri.
good god the Navy has made droping an anker and over welming sciense
+Matt Wagner Good god - ur englesch ar terruble. Ware wuz u brung up? (RE: 6 typos in a single sentence)
Yeh like they need 30 people to drop a damn anchor. Tax payers funds at work.
Don’t get to see the warning shot very often.
Well, if the brake mechanism fails, or if the chain breaks and whips right, then left, then right then left again, I can count at least six if not eight people seriously hurt or unfortunately dead. There should be a cement filled steel "cradle, cage or box" to prevent injury and or loss of life when chain breaks, or the brake fails and ship looses anchor, and "whipping" of tail of chain is end result. A containment "hood" is also needed for the rooster tail for end of chain passing through deck.
You run like hell out of the room of course
That is why the last three shots are white yellow and red... White is the "last" shot and when you see the yellow is the warning shot and when you see the red one you run like hell.
+JohnDH1977 If you haven't stopped a runaway then you run at yellow, not red.
+Harry W. Hill HA! Indeed.. That would be my thinking too actually...Yellow shot? Fuck it I'm ouuta here!
Did they remember to pull out the poor sod sitting in the chainwell with the bucket of paint?
The Military Specs that design and build these things needs to be overhauled !!!
The Navy needs to buy a tripod. Cheaper than a damn impact actuator. EVERY video of the red shot coming on deck tilts to the floor or ceiling!
lol.
At 4:58, the guy at the lower right can no longer hold his arms up...
And there's no way that I'd stand in front of that..
A whole battalion just to drop the anchor? Seems like dropping the anchor of an aircraft carrier is more complicated than landing a jet in it.
battalion? that just shows how ignorant you are
What does "Egg shape tales up and down" have to do with dropping an anchor?
+smokeybarr lmao
They're saying "anchor chain tails up and down." This means the anchor chain is vertical and the anchor crown is resting on the sea floor. Later they say "anchor chain tails (meaning the direction) 11 o'clock.
They were clearly announcing an 11 o clock livestream.
Dan Frederiksen lmfao
Yeah I couldn’t understand a word either. I guess you just have to be subjected to that stuff and be able to understand what people are saying under HIGH pressure, quickly.
Imagine the noise.
As soon as I see someone without a hardhat I automatically figured it had to be the 1st Lou. What an azzhat! Cocky as hell seeing the warning shot on deck when he should be firing himself.
...until the bitter end.
man that is one shipshape deck
They stretch their hands out to bless the holy anchor.
Holy Moly... LUCKY!!
Come on 1st Lieu...LEAD BY EXAMPLE AND PUT A DAMNED HARD HAT ON! - BM1
why thr is many deck crew around the Capstan ?! this the most dangers letting go anchor in sea life.
One would think a Fish Finder sonar thingy from Wal-Mart might have helped avoid this problem.
lol! just priced one the other day! a mere 100 bucks color screen too lol
LOLLLLL !!! I like your comment.
some things are simple
not sure but I bet they are glad there is a huge shackle at the end of the chain or they'd have lost it
If it went down like it should have went down, the 1st Lou should have been away from the detail to begin with. This particular 1st Lou is a mustang. He is a LDO and a former Chief Boatswain's Mate.
I'd like to have that chain in my garage... I could use that to pull any engine I'd want.
Good luck finding a winch to move that. Each link is about a foot(.3 meters) long and they 136 lb(61 kg) and they come in 90 foot (27 meters) sections
This video desperately needs captions of 1. what they are yelling, and 2. what it means in plain English.
Much of the yelling you hear is from a person called the anchor watch. Essentially what they do is report to whomever is in charge during this evolution how the anchor is tending into the water, meaning which way it is pointing, so when you hear the girl yell out "anchor chain tends up and down" that just means it's going into the water straight up and down at that time. How the anchor chain tends tells you a lot about how much the ship is drifting. During dangerous evolutions like this, everything is always repeated multiple times to ensure that everyone knows what the hell is going on.
I served on the USS Tarawa just prior to its decommissioning, as well as on the USS Port Royal as a BM3. BM's and undesignated seamen control and participate in what you watched.
eVERYONE YELLING, NO ONE DOING. In our navy you are not allowed anywhere near this operation. The winch and locker is out of bounds and is automated.
+Stephen A You don't have ships the size of an aircraft carrier.
+John Ferguson.... Nothing to do with size, and everything to do with use of resources. SO...Question: How many USN sailors does it take to raise an anchor? Answer: 19. One to press the button, and 18 to yell at each other about nothing.
Your spot on fincantieri /Doosan /dong feng. Now put fully automated anchor deploy and recovery systems on every ship over 10000 ton regardless of use.Anything under is not cost effective due to bow thrusters you don't need the winches to spring off when along side as. so it's a totally redundant and unnecessary system.
+Stephen A There' also a hell of a lot more money at stake, so having a proportionally higher number of people doing certain tasks is a smart decision..
Bullshit. Size matters. Ive been on 2 DDGs, 1 FFG, 1 LHD and 1 CVN. Dropping on small boys is child play. You have to yell on a big deck with an enclosed focsle. The video camera mic just doesn't do the decibel level justice. Just because you see a lot of people on the Focsle in the video doesn't mean they are all involved. Sea and Anchor detail on a CVN has at least 3 details on the focsle from 1st Division. The Anchor detail is going to have less than 10 people hands on.
That chip on your shoulder is a problem for you I can tell. Get over it.
"A ten tens" "A ten tens on the ground" "A ten ten tens"
Only the Navy could so over complicate dropping the anchor. The system is designed to be simple but the Navy says no way Jose we are going to drag. This out till the ship runs aground. Then we will drop the anchor.
It appears that there were a great deal of extraneous personnel just "hanging around"!
Mans out here t-posing lol
Bungholio and Cornholio at sea doing a bad impersonation of the Beastie Boys video "Intergalactic"...
They obviously are intentionally letting the chain go, I wouldn't say this is a close call.
I mustered many times in that Focs'le many times...That Officer screwed up....And I was in 2nd Division Deck
Battleships are big noisy things that other people tend to shoot at...a lot.
Also...they dont float very well with holes in them.
CVNs are aircraft carriers.
There is no attachment to any bulkhead, otherwise you would loose the anchor, chain, and bulkhead. Nothing would stop it if it ran.
Yes there is - In the chain Locker below the capstan
All ships built by all countries are the same, not.
I didn't think the chain was shackled to the bulkhead in the chain locker on US nave ships.
Isn't it too late to run should anything happen? They all standing so close. Is this consider safe??
what is all the yelling about ? I cant understand what they are saying
Why are all those people standing around and yelling? I would think that maybe three people standing around, and and equal number yelling would be enough. But what do I know? I'm a lubber, not a fighter. Did the front fall off?
Wish I could understand the commands. to much background for my old ears
Most of the video they were just repeating "Eleven o'clock, light strain". That's just keeping everyone informed of the position of the chain relative to the ship and how much tension is on it.
I thought they were speaking Japanese.
Well before anything went wrong, it definitely looked like they were playing at being drill sergeants for the people with cameras.
Two for flinching
This crew moved onto ballot counting in the 2020 election. 😂
I sure don't miss the tacky over-cautionary acts... But it all seemed so sensible at one time.
And that chain ran to the bitter end also
You see everyone like really panik when the red shot comes out and doesn't stop, lol. I know why, but it's still a little funny
Is it normal for the 1st LT. to NOT have a hard hat on?! LOL SAFETY FIRST.....
The most I ever had out was 8 shots. The only time I had ever seen the red shot was in the yards.