@bwheeler. What are people saying? I have been part of the Syil group for years and have heard mostly positive things about the machines. Compare that to Haas and Tormach, they have see to have a much better customer satisfaction rate.
@@22lambo most everything I've seen (I do not have one yet so this is all from what I've read or heard) has been positive. From the specs and parts used I can imagine it belong pretty decent. I'm willing to be a guinea pig on the owner side of things if need be.
I could have picked up 4 of those instead of the mill I have now and been much better off. Largest tool I use is 3/8 end mill and all I cut is plastic, aluminum and copper. Imagine having one machine dedicated to the copper parts I make. Another dedicated to the plastic and another for general stuff.
Hopefully, that was done at the factory when the machine was built. Of course depending on where it was built, they may not know what a dial indicator is, lol.
@@berniepragle948 Ideal would be laser interferometer plots, but sticking a dial indicator on the spindle and sweeping the table is low enough effort that I don't think it's too much to ask for.
@@dwaynesykes694 each machine is laser interferometer checked. There's pictures of them doing it in the factory in China. They also use the Renishaw kit too so very very impressive so far. A lot of the people who have these love them and I've seen them first hand. I have 2 on order!
Great overview Jessie. If the X5 is half as good as my Syil X7 (which I know it already is) it’s going to be a fantastic machine, and I bet you sell loads of them!! What an incredible machine and price.
For real! The 100% was wild for this little machine. You wouldn’t need earplugs at all. It sucks that it is hard to gage sound in a video but it honestly is very quiet.
Would love to have a video comparing the more established CNC companies to a newcomer with a very polished interface like the one that Datron offers with their Neo machines. Would be great if you could pull this off- thanks :)
Great to see this video. Purchased an X5 last year but have had some difficulty using it as I'm completely new to running a CNC. Mine doesn't seem to have the tool setter screens you showed though, not sure why.
Mine was installed in an 1850s brick barn with an oak beam 2070 mm (81.5 inches) above the floor. I had to disconnect the cable chains and use thin machine skates. Only thing I didn't realize was that the slots in the base are too narrow for a standard EU pallet truck. Also you need very small toe jacks. The machine movers brought their normal jacks but they were much too tall to fit. 80 inches would perhaps be possible, but watch out for any rocking on the skates.
How about Titan starts making machines in the good old USA/CANADA? With all the talent and creativity this team has to offer, why not!!! It is a bigger challenge than selling such offshore machines. It would place Titan to a new and unseen level of success in the machine and tool industry North America has not seen for decades... The bets are on!! Thanks for sharing. God Bless.
Hmmm... Looks very suspiciously like a Fancy robo drill.,. Admittedly I do like my little 30 taper spindle drill mates and robo drills, obviously nowhere near as fast, or at this point is accurate... But back in their day they were great and mine are still running like clocks...
Randomized is going to put the tool in whatever pot is holding the next tool going into the spindle. So it may be tool 3 being called up and it may have been in pot 7. A non randomized ATC will always put tool 1 in pot 1, tool 2 in pot 2 and so on
It will 100% go to a vise, just not if you are doing plate work at the table. Meaning if you are working off a fixture plate you will need a subplate to build up your table
They are assembled in China, all the components are from the best builders in the industry. FAG ball screws, THK guideways, Schneeberger Swiss granite-epoxy castings, etc...
Weird layout. Neither side can be near the wall. Chip trays on the back. Tools on the right. Air on the left. Must be put in the middle of the garage with 10 feet clearance all around. Strange for the compact machine.
You got a point. I would think one could put the side with the air pretty close to a wall, and still reach it from the back. But say one need to be able to reach all side of most cnc machines no matter what, then making it as compact as possible is good anyway. But possible a point of improvement there. Going for such a machine to install in a garage for example, many will wish to put 1 or 2 sides closer up to a wall, possible
@@MrRctintin Especially when their nearest competition HAAS has been declining in quality over the last few years while nickel and diming you for features that should come standard. As well as putting arbitrary software limits on your machine because you didn't pay them enough.
Tell that to all the American machinists who have had a dream of opening their own shop and never could because there was no affordable machine options that would compete with legit machines… We have a ton of guys buying machines and going after their dreams… I Washington, Florida, Texas, California, Arizona etc. Also students who are choosing to buy a machine instead of going to college…. We are building American manufacturing with more manufacturers. PS. We taught 400,000 students for free on our Academies in the last year. Show us a single entity that has done more for American Manufacturing.
@@TITANSofCNC im on that boat. cant affored a Brother, dont want a Tormach. its a perfect starter mahcine. once you do well, get some real nice machines. these Syil WILL MAKE YOU MONEY.
Ah, yes, because nothing says "American ingenuity" like making things in China and importing them to the USA. Maybe US based purchasing officers should skip the middle man and send your work straight to China?
Yeah, why not? The option is offering some more expencive machines, from whatever country, and bring back less manufacturing. What to go for? Hard choice?
Yep, as you type on a phone or computer that was made in China. Sucks that there isn’t a low priced great machine made in America… But at least Machinists can now fulfill their dreams of having their own shop which allows them to make American products in the US.
You preach about bringing everything back to America yet you become a distributor for a Chinese mill Company. Seems it's only all about America until you need another revenue stream
The business regarding the production of a CNC machine itself is just penauts compared to the business that machine can create to it's owner, in America,for America. There is no good option in this price range 'made in America'. Sadly. Feel free to change it. Meanwhile americans that want to start a machining business, in need of a low entry cost machine to get going, can't sit around waiting. One pick a machine that do the job, and at a cost one can afford, and get going, no matter where it is made.
We purchased one of these last year and have had good success with it. We have three Brothers in our shop and this little guy runs right with them!
Compact and loaded with features! These SYIL machines will definitely bring manufacturing back in a big way!
Insane machine for the cost! I foresee many people going for this machine over the Tormachs now that TITANS is showing this thing off! 👏
I can't wait to buy one of these. Once my VF2 is paid off within this next year I'm immediately ordering one!
id recommend seeing what others are saying about the machines first... sadly these guys have lost their roots.
@bwheeler. What are people saying? I have been part of the Syil group for years and have heard mostly positive things about the machines. Compare that to Haas and Tormach, they have see to have a much better customer satisfaction rate.
@@22lambo most everything I've seen (I do not have one yet so this is all from what I've read or heard) has been positive. From the specs and parts used I can imagine it belong pretty decent. I'm willing to be a guinea pig on the owner side of things if need be.
I could have picked up 4 of those instead of the mill I have now and been much better off.
Largest tool I use is 3/8 end mill and all I cut is plastic, aluminum and copper.
Imagine having one machine dedicated to the copper parts I make. Another dedicated to the plastic and another for general stuff.
Sell your current machine and get these in the shop.
Great video! I appreciate the break down of each machine. It’s especially helpful when deciding which machine tool to purchase in the near future.
Stick a dial indicator on it and sweep it across the table. That's what I really want to see.
Hopefully, that was done at the factory when the machine was built. Of course depending on where it was built, they may not know what a dial indicator is, lol.
@@berniepragle948 Ideal would be laser interferometer plots, but sticking a dial indicator on the spindle and sweeping the table is low enough effort that I don't think it's too much to ask for.
@@dwaynesykes694 might not help you most machines are rated in the tenths though the really good ones are millionths
@@dwaynesykes694 each machine is laser interferometer checked. There's pictures of them doing it in the factory in China. They also use the Renishaw kit too so very very impressive so far. A lot of the people who have these love them and I've seen them first hand. I have 2 on order!
Great walkthrough Jessie, simple and easy to follow. Love it!
It is amazing to see the entry point to high end CNC machining drop so far from where it was!
The handwheel feature is nice my older milltronics has that. Great for a person just learning.
So sick! I’m loving these machines
Great overview Jessie! Super easy to understand!
That is Jaw dropping rapid speed !!
Awesome stuff Jessie, such a great machine!
Great break down of the X5 Jessie! Can't wait to see the projects that come from it!
SYIL machines are crazy accurate for the price.
Would really like to see the tool setter and a probe being used on this or the X7. Particularly how they are handled in the Syntec interface.
What are your thoughts on the different controllers and their pro's and cons? syntec , LNC-6800, siemens
If you want to send me an email I can give you all the details. Keith@titansofcnc.com
What a great walkthrough Jessie 👍
I've been using Sigma Cnc machines here in Italy back in 1995 that were exactly the same as this one.
Great overview Jessie. If the X5 is half as good as my Syil X7 (which I know it already is) it’s going to be a fantastic machine, and I bet you sell loads of them!! What an incredible machine and price.
It really has been an impressive machine so far. I can’t wait for this 4140 HT video to drop!
Very cool turret design! Looking forward to eventually owning my first CNC machine - not sure when that'll be, but hoping soon.
Wish I had a building for one of these for some side work and a hobby!
Do a QC vid about these machines!
Nice overview of a cool, quality machine!
I know the Syil L2 is coming out in the fall. How can I get on a waiting list for that machine?
UNBELIEVABLE 🔥 Miracle 💯 Thanks
Excellent machines for the price!
Jessie, great job again explaining everything on this machine. That 100% rapid movement was crazy quiet. Even at 18k rpm would one even need earplugs?
For real! The 100% was wild for this little machine. You wouldn’t need earplugs at all. It sucks that it is hard to gage sound in a video but it honestly is very quiet.
@@Jessie_Smith sweet, very nice machine
When will you guys be getting a T5 or T7 on the channel/floor?
I'd love to see video of this thing cutting. When's a "we put it through its paces" video coming?
Would love to have a video comparing the more established CNC companies to a newcomer with a very polished interface like the one that Datron offers with their Neo machines.
Would be great if you could pull this off- thanks :)
How is the service situation on these machines or are they very open to self service?
Ive been looking at one of these, but think I might got with an x7.
you can put your quick VOS attach on AUX
Great to see this video. Purchased an X5 last year but have had some difficulty using it as I'm completely new to running a CNC. Mine doesn't seem to have the tool setter screens you showed though, not sure why.
X5 looks like nice machine. So you do not happen to know of some experienced CNC machinist locally, that could help you get going..?
@@Rimrock300 not in the same city unfortunately. But I do know of someone in the same country at least.
Spoke to Syil and they're sending updates. Great support from them!
Fantastic! Ciao, Marco.
What is the minimum garage door height for this machine to clear during installation? As well as the operational height of the machine? Thanks guys
80" so it will get into any garage
Mine was installed in an 1850s brick barn with an oak beam 2070 mm (81.5 inches) above the floor. I had to disconnect the cable chains and use thin machine skates. Only thing I didn't realize was that the slots in the base are too narrow for a standard EU pallet truck. Also you need very small toe jacks. The machine movers brought their normal jacks but they were much too tall to fit. 80 inches would perhaps be possible, but watch out for any rocking on the skates.
Amazing
How about Titan starts making machines in the good old USA/CANADA? With all the talent and creativity this team has to offer, why not!!!
It is a bigger challenge than selling such offshore machines. It would place Titan to a new and unseen level of success in the machine and tool industry North America has not seen for decades...
The bets are on!!
Thanks for sharing.
God Bless.
Do you distribute in Canada as well?
We don't unfortunately. I can send you information on the dealer up there if you like?
will you guys get the x9 as well?
Yes
We are already selling them
Yes, it should be here mid April, content to follow shortly after
Hmmm... Looks very suspiciously like a Fancy robo drill.,. Admittedly I do like my little 30 taper spindle drill mates and robo drills, obviously nowhere near as fast, or at this point is accurate... But back in their day they were great and mine are still running like clocks...
Good video
I would like to see these compared head to head with a HAAS model equivalent
similar with Brother Speedio
The minimum distance off the table seems weird. Is that for use with a 4th axis?
It's the Oh shit button. Nobody calls it the emergency stop button.
Whats the difference between a randomized and non randomized atc?
Randomized is going to put the tool in whatever pot is holding the next tool going into the spindle. So it may be tool 3 being called up and it may have been in pot 7. A non randomized ATC will always put tool 1 in pot 1, tool 2 in pot 2 and so on
What is cost?
Is it weird that the spindle won’t go to the table..?
I find it odd it won’t go down to the vise… and the vise has to be on a riser?
If you mount the 4th-axis that probally turns into an advantage...
It will 100% go to a vise, just not if you are doing plate work at the table. Meaning if you are working off a fixture plate you will need a subplate to build up your table
Where are these machines built/assembled?
They are assembled in China, all the components are from the best builders in the industry. FAG ball screws, THK guideways, Schneeberger Swiss granite-epoxy castings, etc...
What's the spindle's rated RPM? What is its torque curve?
It is a 20,000 rpm spindle. I can send you the actual torque chart if you want.
The torque max is 12.8hp continuous and up to 17.4hp for 30 minutes
@@Jessie_Smith Can you send a link to the HP, RPM and torque chart.
Syil L2 when
we have syntec 6MB
Which motors are in that device?
Syntec
How to lurning machine?
Is this an X7 overview? Good lord.
So it costs 4 grand for that piece to make the tool actually be able to get to the vice? wait what?
Where is the ak 50 videos
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10 months old
I think my old mikron 14hp is better
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Weird layout. Neither side can be near the wall. Chip trays on the back. Tools on the right. Air on the left. Must be put in the middle of the garage with 10 feet clearance all around. Strange for the compact machine.
You got a point. I would think one could put the side with the air pretty close to a wall, and still reach it from the back. But say one need to be able to reach all side of most cnc machines no matter what, then making it as compact as possible is good anyway. But possible a point of improvement there. Going for such a machine to install in a garage for example, many will wish to put 1 or 2 sides closer up to a wall, possible
Made in China
Assembled in China…..
and?
@@MrRctintina few years ago titan promoted "AMERICAN BUILD BOOM!" ;)
@@ostry599 times change…. Gotta do what you gotta do. Does it help get people started up in business in their garage? If yes, it’s a great thing.
@@MrRctintin Especially when their nearest competition HAAS has been declining in quality over the last few years while nickel and diming you for features that should come standard. As well as putting arbitrary software limits on your machine because you didn't pay them enough.
When you start your brand as Titan American Built" next minute your shelling chinese machines. You know you have lost your way.
Tell that to all the American machinists who have had a dream of opening their own shop and never could because there was no affordable machine options that would compete with legit machines…
We have a ton of guys buying machines and going after their dreams…
I Washington, Florida, Texas, California, Arizona etc.
Also students who are choosing to buy a machine instead of going to college….
We are building American manufacturing with more manufacturers.
PS. We taught 400,000 students for free on our Academies in the last year.
Show us a single entity that has done more for American Manufacturing.
@@TITANSofCNC im on that boat. cant affored a Brother, dont want a Tormach. its a perfect starter mahcine. once you do well, get some real nice machines. these Syil WILL MAKE YOU MONEY.
'Lets have less work taken home to be American built by limiting the choices to only more expencive machines' Yeah, that would been smarter...
Ah, yes, because nothing says "American ingenuity" like making things in China and importing them to the USA. Maybe US based purchasing officers should skip the middle man and send your work straight to China?
Bring manufacturing back to America by buying our Chinese machine....lol ;)
Yeah, why not? The option is offering some more expencive machines, from whatever country, and bring back less manufacturing. What to go for? Hard choice?
I wish this kind of option was available before I retired
Bring manufacturing back into the US with Chinese machines 😂
Yep, as you type on a phone or computer that was made in China.
Sucks that there isn’t a low priced great machine made in America…
But at least Machinists can now fulfill their dreams of having their own shop which allows them to make American products in the US.
You preach about bringing everything back to America yet you become a distributor for a Chinese mill Company. Seems it's only all about America until you need another revenue stream
The business regarding the production of a CNC machine itself is just penauts compared to the business that machine can create to it's owner, in America,for America. There is no good option in this price range 'made in America'. Sadly. Feel free to change it. Meanwhile americans that want to start a machining business, in need of a low entry cost machine to get going, can't sit around waiting. One pick a machine that do the job, and at a cost one can afford, and get going, no matter where it is made.
@@Rimrock300your parts are made in America with this machine how bout that 😂
@@Rimrock300 Well said, and these are the facts!!!!