Meadow rules, and it's great for this list. Not a complicated rule set, but offers thinky decisions to be made throughout the game. Always engaging, and quite rewarding when you can make things happen. It deserves all the love it gets.
when Jamie mentions board games and the experience are just layers and layers of complexity all I could hear was "board games are like onions...they stink, or they make you cry, oh you leave em out in the sun and they start sprouting little white hairs.. no LAYERS!"
Ok, you guys touched on some of our favorite games here. I just got back from a trip to the mountains with a bunch of non gamers. Heat was a hit, but I would say with less than 4 it's not very interesting. Silver Bullet was in constant rotation. People loved this game, I was asked to teach it multiple times, it killed. Meadow, I love Meadow. Beautiful, simple yet elegant. Libertalia, plays great at 3, plays great at 8...just a fun game and not a ton of mental burn.
I'm enjoying Res Arcana, which you praised. Silver Bullet fell flat, but I'll give it another try with different people. NOTNinja works at 4 players, so I keep it as a backup for BOTClocktower, which requires 5 + Storyteller. Not everyone shows up when they say they will.
These are great picks! I gotta especially agree with a Libertalia winds of Galecrest. The more people we get to Gateway plus the more people are super into the hobby! Keep on evangelizing lol.
This is topic is all about how do we initiate people further into the cult of board games. One of us. One of us. When we have family or friends coming up to visit or we’re going down to Florida we just stare at our collection trying to figure out what games we can hook them with. Planet unknown is a good one. It makes most of my lists though lately. Splendor I would probably put in gateway+. I thought it was just gateway but in playing with stephs sister and nephew it might be that small step up from straight gateway
Never heard of awkward guests, but that seems fun! Definitely see this as a good intro. Gonna have to check it out. To Jeff's point I never heard of cluedo until I was in the industry and it was a big ask for a lot of stores. Had no clue it was a thing though until then. I just thought people were adding letters to the end for whatever reason.
Planet Unknown is a very good game, and it's quite intuitive once you get the rules down. Meadow is a little more complex, but the artwork alone....very nice game. I have friends who are fairly new to board gaming, and Meadow was fantastic for one of them, and too much for the other. But Shake That City, [you didn't mention here, but it would fit the list] really hit the spot for both of them as well as the more experienced gamers at the table. Thank you for the list. I have a few more games to check out now!🙂
A few other games that I was thinking about while watching this video that sit maybe a step or two beyond "gateway game" are Cascadia, Creature Comforts, Mind MGMT, and Fantastic Factories.
It's always interesting see what people consider gateway and gateway+ games. Great video. Planet Unknown seems a little too complex though I haven't played it yet to say for sure. But with my gateway experiences so far I would almost call Dominion an next step game...Haha.
It isn’t. It’s placing tiles and moving up the track of the tile you just placed. We’ve introd it to many people. But yea it’s all going to be subjective
Love Awkward Guests! I would get people to skip Clue(do) all together and just start with it. ScandalOh! Is a great step up from AG as well. New York Zoo & Heat, parent approved. Also taught some random people at UKGE who were trying to read the rules of Heat. I like teaching Villagers by Sinister Fish as a step up. Good village/engine builder with unlock combos.
Honestly, I wouldn’t worry so much about definitions, because honestly they are so muddled now. But basically it’s a game with indirect player interaction, and pretty much no randomness (dice rolling for example).
Meadow rules, and it's great for this list. Not a complicated rule set, but offers thinky decisions to be made throughout the game. Always engaging, and quite rewarding when you can make things happen. It deserves all the love it gets.
when Jamie mentions board games and the experience are just layers and layers of complexity all I could hear was "board games are like onions...they stink, or they make you cry, oh you leave em out in the sun and they start sprouting little white hairs.. no LAYERS!"
Ok, you guys touched on some of our favorite games here. I just got back from a trip to the mountains with a bunch of non gamers. Heat was a hit, but I would say with less than 4 it's not very interesting. Silver Bullet was in constant rotation. People loved this game, I was asked to teach it multiple times, it killed. Meadow, I love Meadow. Beautiful, simple yet elegant. Libertalia, plays great at 3, plays great at 8...just a fun game and not a ton of mental burn.
Love some silver bullet love!
“Don’t Call It a Comeback!” is a legendary line from the classic LL Cool J track “Mama Said Knock You Out”
I think Viticulture is a good one. The worker placement just makes so much sense for the theme....makes for an easy teach
I love these choices!
My spouse's mom likes lighter games but we try to sneak in some next level games sometimes. Thanks for the great video!
You’re welcome!!
I too always remembered the game mentioned @7:26 as Clue. Had wondered why some called it Cluedo. Thanks Jamie for that bit of trivia.
In the Netherlands it's called Cluedo as well but we pronounce it Clue-Way-Dough, that's how it was pronounced in the tv commercials
I'm enjoying Res Arcana, which you praised. Silver Bullet fell flat, but I'll give it another try with different people.
NOTNinja works at 4 players, so I keep it as a backup for BOTClocktower, which requires 5 + Storyteller. Not everyone shows up when they say they will.
These are great picks! I gotta especially agree with a Libertalia winds of Galecrest. The more people we get to Gateway plus the more people are super into the hobby! Keep on evangelizing lol.
We out here!
“The Wilderness must be explored!” Russel might be my favorite Pixar character!
He’s so good
Great topic! Other then just doing good stuff in general, you knock some of your topics out of the park. Two thumbs up :).
Appreciate the kindness!
This is topic is all about how do we initiate people further into the cult of board games. One of us. One of us. When we have family or friends coming up to visit or we’re going down to Florida we just stare at our collection trying to figure out what games we can hook them with.
Planet unknown is a good one. It makes most of my lists though lately.
Splendor I would probably put in gateway+. I thought it was just gateway but in playing with stephs sister and nephew it might be that small step up from straight gateway
Never heard of awkward guests, but that seems fun! Definitely see this as a good intro. Gonna have to check it out. To Jeff's point I never heard of cluedo until I was in the industry and it was a big ask for a lot of stores. Had no clue it was a thing though until then. I just thought people were adding letters to the end for whatever reason.
Great list, would love to see a similar small box games video “so you’ve played uno… here’s the next step”
We did a video about intro games (we didn’t use uno though unfortunately). But we did a, if you like X try X video!
Hmmm, I feel Rolling Realms to be just as crunchy as Fleet and Three Sisters if not more so.
Interesting! I agree some of the packs are more complicated but most feel not nearly to the degree as three sisters
Aww thanks for another video on this topic guys, you're my peaceful weekend heroes lol
Hahaha appreciate the kindness!
Planet Unknown is a very good game, and it's quite intuitive once you get the rules down. Meadow is a little more complex, but the artwork alone....very nice game. I have friends who are fairly new to board gaming, and Meadow was fantastic for one of them, and too much for the other. But Shake That City, [you didn't mention here, but it would fit the list] really hit the spot for both of them as well as the more experienced gamers at the table. Thank you for the list. I have a few more games to check out now!🙂
It’s always going to be subjective. Everyone learns differently etc etc. there’s no perfect formula for this stuff!
@@FostertheMeeple Of course. I try and cater a little more to the "cranky" gamer, as once he is happy, we all are! 😆
A few other games that I was thinking about while watching this video that sit maybe a step or two beyond "gateway game" are Cascadia, Creature Comforts, Mind MGMT, and Fantastic Factories.
Great choices!
South African here, we also know it as Cluedo. Thanks for the share ❤
So interesting!
I was able to snag a copy of planet unknown from board game bliss this morning. Sold out less than thirty minutes later...very lucky!
Hopefully with the new expansion coming, copies start showing up more!
Cascadia, King of Tokyo, Takenoko, Baren Park, Bad Company and Creature Comforts !! I can keep going. Love gate way games!!
Great suggestions!
It's always interesting see what people consider gateway and gateway+ games. Great video.
Planet Unknown seems a little too complex though I haven't played it yet to say for sure. But with my gateway experiences so far I would almost call Dominion an next step game...Haha.
It isn’t. It’s placing tiles and moving up the track of the tile you just placed. We’ve introd it to many people. But yea it’s all going to be subjective
Ha! You spying on me? Kanban EV is on my table right now. Going to play it for the first time in a few hours.
Yes. How is that pasta you’re eating right now tasting
@@FostertheMeeple 😨
Love Awkward Guests! I would get people to skip Clue(do) all together and just start with it.
ScandalOh! Is a great step up from AG as well.
New York Zoo & Heat, parent approved.
Also taught some random people at UKGE who were trying to read the rules of Heat.
I like teaching Villagers by Sinister Fish as a step up. Good village/engine builder with unlock combos.
Great suggestions!
Woooo good timing 😂😂😂 watching 😊
Hope you enjoy!
So as someone newer to the hobby, I feel like I need to ask, what is a "Euro" game?
Feel like I don't have a firm grasp on what classifies as a Euro.
Honestly, I wouldn’t worry so much about definitions, because honestly they are so muddled now. But basically it’s a game with indirect player interaction, and pretty much no randomness (dice rolling for example).
"Don't call it a comeback, I been here for years! I'm rockin' my peers, puttin' suckers in fear!" - LL Cool J, Mama Said Knock You Out
Jon, you never fail to disappoint me
Wow, Jeff, rude! 😅
Clank Catacombs is also great
I didn't know Cluedo is called Clue in the USA :D
Hahah that’s entirely valid
Ha it took me ages to work out that everytime someone mentioned Clue they actually meant Cluedo
The mystery has been solved!
@@FostertheMeeple 🕵♂
I have Jeff's tee ...love it
You should give it back
Twins!
Kung fu! Great show as a kid
Nobody ever knows what I’m talking about!! Thank you!
My grandma got me into that show as a kid.
@@middleclassjoe props to your G-Ma
Have y'all played Explorers by Ravensburger?
We have not!
Second base games
You would