Secrets revealed for a wood finish glazing technique
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- Опубликовано: 26 дек 2020
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This video shows start-to-finish the process for a unique paint and glaze finish.
Makita Wheel Sander
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Also check out our first video on this process.
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Hey thanks for all your questions and comments. We are going to be doing a Q&A video and would love to have your woodworking questions sent to woodworkingwithwes@gmail.com.
Will this work with softer wood, like fir?
Thank you for all your videos showing your techniques and craftmanship.
Wes, thank you. What you've taught here on bringing oak back in vogue is long overdue. My next project will be the refinish on a solid oak table. I cannot wait!
Sounds great! Thank you very much for you comment and visiting my channel. Good luck with your table. Wes
you look incredibly similar to a college professor I had that absolutely changed my life, he passed away very shortly after I finished his classes. watching your videos sort of takes me back and I get to learn a lot from them as well. Thank you very much for your content.
I appreciate your comment. That is very kind...thanks for watching. Wes
Wes you are so awesome.
I could watch you all day! Thank you so much for breaking down this process.,
Hi...thank you for being a part of our community, I appreciate your comment. Wes
I am so relieved you did a longer breakdown of the process. I’ve had my eye on faux limed wood for my armoire for months now. This is extraordinarily helpful.
I will be assembling the frame next week. I have BC pine and am rooting for a white/cream heavy glazed look. I’ll keep you posted.
ETA: should a stain the wood before final assembly or afterwards? 🤔
I think wheel sanding/texturing would more easily be done before assembly. The finish can be applied after assembly. I look forward to seeing how it turns out. Thank you.
This is BEAUTIFUL!!! Thank you for showing folks how to do this
Thank you Barbara for watching.
Thank You so much for making the videos to help me learn! I have learned so much!!!!
You are so welcome! Glad you enjoy my videos. Wes
This is amazing! Looks great! Thanks for sharing!
You are so welcome!
Love this! The white looks incredibly pretty
Thank you very much...I appreciate your visit.
Thank you for sharing. Awesome finish
Thanks for your comment and for visiting my channel.
Happy New Year!
Great Video, I feel comfortable to do it now. God Bless You.
Great technique Wes! Thanks for sharing this👌👌👌
Thank you John...have a great week !!
When you have mastered it you make it easy. Fantastic job.
Thanks for your comment, Wes
This is awesome! 🙌
Thank you very much !
Hello!! This is a dreamy look! I have honey oak cabinets and watched your video many times for two days and begun applying it to my honey oak kitchen!!! Love the results!! Thank you!! I used primer sealer, carbon gray oil stain by general finishes and a poly top coat. And just a wire brush!! 🧡👊
Not sure how I can add the picture!
That's great...sounds like it turned out wonderful. Glad I could help. Wes
I wish I could see your result!
Another very helpful video. I am trying to finish an electric guitar with this technique
I'm going to use this technique on some kitchen open shelving on Ash. Thanks for making this video! Subbed!
Great...should work well on Ash too. Thank you for subscribing...I appreciate it.
SO GORGEOUS 🤩 had a fellow craft enthusiast tell me about your channel!!
Great video! This video was super helpful! Subbed fo sho!
Cheers
Thanks for the sub...and glad it was helpful. Wes
My wife and I LOVE LOVE LOVE this look. We may use this for our tv center that we plan to build with a fireplace insert. We're just not sure if we like the inverted style more (Black instead of white).
Hi...you might be interested in some new products I have found to be the best for the cerusing method. Here is a link to that video:ruclips.net/video/kZDk0CBRS3I/видео.html
Thanks for watching, Wes
Revolutionary. A Master work. Bravo Maestro!
Thank you very much for your kind words. Glad you enjoyed the video.
@@WoodworkingWithWes I looked at glaze last night. I'm thinking of doing charcoal with cream on top.
@@julesfalcone Yes, that would present a nice contrast. Good luck .
The makita surely looks like a solid tool. It is very pricey ($600!) I went for the craftsman restorer for under $80. Doesn't look as good as the makita but I just hope it gets the job done.Thanks for the demonstration!
Thanks for sharing...glad your enjoyed the video. Wes
Nice. Nice.
Thank you very much...appreciate your comment.
I would love to see a picture of this technique on kitchen cabinets all finished if you have one!
Sorry I have not had an opportunity to do a project in this finish yet. We are making plans for a furniture piece in the near future...stay tuned. Thanks for watching. Wes
This is amazing! Thank you for the tutorial.
Is this appropriate for flooring?
I would suggest going to the Rubio Monocoat website for flooring. They have a wonderful product and lots of information for application. Thanks for watching. Wes
I could watch your videos all day. Really enjoy bot only your expertise but your kind, genuine personality is a nice break from some online acts haha - can you do any color with the glaze?
Why thank you for those kind words. Very encouraging and keeps me going :))
Yes you can tint glaze to any color. BTW I found a new glaze that I like better than Benjamin Moore. ML Campbell's furniture glaze is a great product and I am switching all my glazing needs to them. It can also be tinted to any desired color. Keep up the good work!
@@WoodworkingWithWes thanks for the update! Looks like the nearest distributor to me is about and hour away, but that’s not bad for a reliable product. Now I need to watch the videos on your sprayer equipment!
So awesome. Perfect for a zebra sign.
Yep that would work great! Thanks for watching :))
The black one with the white glaze is reminiscent of bleached wenge! Love it!
Thank you....glad you enjoyed the video!
Is it just me, and my crazy love foe the metallic sheen but to me they look (ish) like a metallic sheen on top or underneath
I love this Wes! You did a great job explaining your process. My question is how would you use the Makita tool on kitchen cabinets that are installed already? Or older oak pieces of furniture? Thank you ahead of time for your answer. Keep making these tutorials please!
Thank you Marilyn...unfortunately the wheel sander would be very difficult on existing pieces as it would not reach into profiles. Perhaps using it on flat surfaces with a hand wire brush for the profiles might solve the problem.
@@WoodworkingWithWes thank you. That’s a great idea. Bless you!
Black with white glaze is amazing do you have a detailed video covering this technique
So I'm definitely going to try out this process on a guitar body made of ash. As you've pointed out on other related videos, Ash is another good candidate to do this process.
What I'm wondering for myself is after applying the white paint you state that the paint you use has a sealer in which is necessary before applying the glaze. I only use basic acrylic craft paint when doing my work so I'm wondering what type of sealer I would want to use in my process before applying the black glaze?
I'm really looking forward to this project! Thanks for the inspiration!
I am not familiar with acrylic paints and their sealing properties. It might not be necessary to seal between paint and glaze. Give it a test try, if a sealer coat is necessary consult with your paint supplier for a clear sealer product for your paint. Good luck, thanks Wes
Great video, one thing I’ve had trouble with is getting a completely clean surface afterwards.
2 coats black sealer, let dry for an hour
White glaze applied like video
Wiping off right away
Sanding after a few hours
Black looks bluish like the glaze mixed with the black?
One thing further is the black vinyl sealer is pretty flat sheen when dried. Not very slick..should I thin substantially with LT to get a different sheen?
It’s basically hard to remove the glaze from the base coat color. Not just wipe and soft sand. Thanks for the video!
Anthony...sounds like you are doing the process correctly. I am not sure where you are getting the bluish color from if your base coat is pure black, the glaze shouldn't make a difference. The sheen should come from the clear top coat which is the final step. Maybe give it another test...hope that works. Thanks. Wes
Excellent video very informative . I wonder how long this will last in an outside application and if it didn’t last type of mess would one experience?.
I have not used this method on any exterior finishes...sorry I do not know. Thanks for watching, Wes
Hi. Love your channel!! I wish I would have found this sooner. We painted our oak uppers white and distressed them a bit. I'm happy but I can see this in the future. However we left the lowers natural. We have alot of oak in our home (we love oak!)... and I'm thinking of black for the lowers. Have you done a black or white ceruse with a natural or brown finish coming thru to highlight the grain? Is that possible? Thanks!!
Hi...I have not done the method you have described but give it a test try, I think it should be fine. Thanks for watching. Wes
Great video, great technique! Do you think it would work with pine using the same materials and tools?
Pine does not work well. Check out our video using this process on 11 different kinds of wood. Thanks, Wes
I'd like to see this on some Ashwood.
Check out our video on "Cerusing 11 Different Kinds of Wood." You will have an opportunity to see what ash would look like. Thanks for watching. Wes
Hello Wes! I’m hoping you can answer an important question for me. You hv inspired me to redo a table with the ceruse finish. I hv stripped, and used laquer thinner to remove all leftover old laquer and stripper. Lightly sanded, and grooved with wire brush. I am on pause till I figure out if it’s ok just to start ceruse finish and paint or do I need to eliminate and laquer thinner residue first so that paint adheres? I know it evaporates quickly, but ????? Found conflicting info, so I’ll bet my last dollar your the pro with the answer! Thanks!!
Hi...It won't hurt to wipe it down with lacquer thinner and that will clean it. Thanks, Wes
That looks beautiful and your video has inspired me to give it a try Wes. I've been searching for a way to make woodgrain show up with a dark (Spanish Oak) stain on my banisters with white painted spindles. Can I use oil-based stain as the sealer on the banisters or does it have to be a vinyl primer for this to work?
I should have mentioned the existing banisters and spindles are oak with Early American stain.
@@gregsillak3075 That sounds like it will be wonderful! Would love to see a picture of it when completed. Good luck...I am sure you will have great results. Wes
i love this finish, i was going to do a “whitewash sand away finish” on my kitchen cabinets but it’s way too labor intensive, this will save so much time over that technique! quick question- what wheel grit and sanding sponge grit did you use?
Hi Bryan...the wheel doesn't have a grit, it's just a nylon wheel. The sanding sponge comes in extra course, course and fine and I use the fine grit. I get them at Sherwin Williams. Thank you...happy you found this video useful.
actually the wheel does come in multiple grits, the 9741 (according to Makita’s website), comes with a 100 grit wheel, but 80 and 240 are available as well, so assuming you used the (100 grit) wheel it came with. thank you. www.makitatools.com/products/details/9741
@@bryansmith5013 Sorry...I did not realize there were additional grits available. Yep, I just used the one that came in the box. Thank you for the info...I appreciate it!!
Hello Wes, I am wondering if this technique would work with just one colour? I'm hoping to achieve the same affect you did, but instead of a white base, I would like the original wood to be visible. Would it just be the same process as this just with one paint instead of two?
Thank you. Love the knowledge being shared in these comments !
Hi...I could only suggest to give it a try. Thanks for watching. Wes
Beautiful work! I'm interested in the reverse of what you showed in this video (black underneath with white glaze) but black vinyl primer doesn't seem to be a thing. What did you use on the reverse board that you didn't show in this video? Thanks!!!
ML Campbell was able to provide me with a black vinyl primer. Thanks for watching. Wes
I believe black solid stain would work as well
This may be a novice question- but would you advise making up stock with this finish before assembling cabinet frames? I'm interested in using this in surrounds with solid color panels. It might be harder to get the evenly hand rubbed finish after assembly.
Hi...yes I would do the texturing and finishing before assembly. I agree it would be too hard afterwards. Thank you, hope this helps.
Thank you for your video, can I use same technique for stairs treads
Yes...I believe you can, however, I suggest doing a test sample first. Also, you might check the website of Rubio Monocoat as they do floor specific products. Thanks for watching. Wes
Awesome video!!! I'm going to be using this technique on baseboard. Can you please tell me what kind of foam sanding block you used? What color did you have the glaze tinted to? And also what kind of clear finish did you use?
Hi...the sanding sponge was purchased at Sherwin Williams, extra fine grit. I now use M.L. Campbell furniture glaze for all my work. I used a black glaze in the video . The clear top coat was just a pre-cat lacquer. Thank you for watching...glad it was helpful. Wes
Thanks for getting back to me I have a question Im having trouble finding CAMPBELL W.V.P. White Vinyle Primer will any kind of white primer/sealer work? And does it half to be solvent base or can it be water base Primer?
@@richardrmagno2194 Hi...because I am not familiar with different brands of vinyl primer, I am not sure how they would compare. I have never used a water based primer and so, again, I would not be able to advise. Have you checked M.L. Campbell website for product availability and for the distributor closest to you? Sorry I could not be more helpful.
Hello, Wes! Great work, thank you for inspiration! Is it possible to do this technique with oil dye? I want to use this for my new furniture from pine.
And maybe you know which Varathane products can be used for this? I am not from US, in my country i cant buy ML Campbell products, only Varathane and Osmo((
Hi...my only suggestion, since I am not familiar with your product, is to give it a try and see if you like it. Thanks for watching. Wes
Well this question will show my green ears for these types of things but here goes: how do you tell it’s oak, ash, alder? I believe I know what red cherry (if that’s a type) but also pine and Mahogany too. I’ve never seen Purple Heart in person but I’ve heard it’s the most expensive and literally unobtainable, but then I saw someone “fake” it with Unicorn Spit in color Purple Hill Majesty (there’s a question somewhere on it’s way about that type of gel glaze...lol) and it was a really good faux finish! But I don’t know why I wanted this but my hubby got me like 6 bottles and the last thing I want to put it on is only my teal pieces of wood furniture. But I love this technique you did I watched the first video and just saved it bc I wasn’t sure if I’d be able to to do it because you lost me around the part when it was painted with the colored gel stain then sprayed then coated and then I understand (most of them) the terms but I don’t understand why you would do that and then sand it and repeat. But it really doesn’t matter why bcuz the outcome is so I mean SO beautiful. To me, it almost looks metallic. That is something I would definitely do on my kitchen cabinets whatever kind of wood they are. Thank you for breaking this down.
Hi Alli...wood identification is confusing to start but the more time you spend in projects, the easier it will become. Do like I did to start and ask someone at the lumber yard to help you. I hope this 2nd video explains the process better. Practice on some scrap pieces until you get your desired results before you begin your kitchen cabinets. Good luck in your quest and thank you !!
Wes, What grit wheel do you use for makita?
Subscribed! Wes, have you used other color combos for the base and the glaze tint? I have some oak bookcases but the black isn't an option for it. Thanks.
Yes, definitely. We have many color combinations on our channel for the cerusing technique. Thanks for watching, Wes
Such a great video! This will be a new technique for me. I do not have much experience with spraying. What type of sprayer are you using? What would you recommended while keeping my bank account not depleted?
Thank you for the compliment. We have a video on the sprayer I buy from Home Depot...check it out! Thanks for watching, Wes
what are the products that you are using I am trying to do some kitchen cabinets black with white glaze but what I have purchased from different places is not working so where can I get the exact products that you use
What is the mix ratio that you tell them. The Benjamin Moore by me has never heard of tinting glaze
Wes, I just found your channel and absolutely love how you explain the application of this glaze technique. Quick question though; I want to make some outdoor chairs and would love to use this finish on them. Do you think this would stand up to weather extremes? Looking forward to your answer!
Hi David...the top coat lacquer that I use is not an exterior finish. Check your finish supplier for a quality exterior finish...maybe a spar varnish or something similar. Glad you found the channel and enjoyed the video. Thank you.
Hello where can I buy the procducts that you used
Until being able to afford a wheel sander could you get the same affect using a higher grit sandpaper to bring out the grain of the wood?
Sandpaper would probably not give the same effect. You need those bristles to dig deeper into the soft grain than the hard grain, which is what gives the board the texture. Flat sandpaper moving across the face of the board would not do this, most likely. A wire wheel on a drill or angle grinder would do the trick, though.
Shawn....Barak answered your question perfectly. Thank you both for your comments.
Could you make an alternate suggestion on V.P. ? I live near Jasper , Texas .. can’t find the product you prefer anywhere near my location
I can only suggest you talk to your local paint supplier for alternatives to a vinyl primer. Thank you. Good luck !
I noticed when you describe your paint, you call it "tinted vinyl sealer", but the can doesn't say "sealer" as far as I can see. How can I tell that whatever paint I buy is a sealer?
Most primers ARE sealers and that is just the way I described it in the video. You might want to check with your paint supplier to be sure. Thank you, I appreciate your visit.
i would like to know what kind of glaze and the color of glazes that you used and where i can get the glaze at.
Hi...in the video I indicated Benjamin Moore as the supplier of my glaze. Although the glaze color will be your choice I used a dark charcoal gray. Hope this helps. Thank you for visiting my channel.
Hi Wes. If using ash for this process what grit would you finish sand to prior to texturing with the wire wheel, 120?
Hi...I would sand to a 120 grit before texturing. Thanks for watching, Wes
Can the primer be applied with a brush or does it have to be a sprayer?
The particular primer that I use is spray only but you could check with your paint supplier as to a brush application.
Hi Wes, thank your for this video. Quick question. I couldn’t find “black vinyl primer sealer”. I’m trying to make a piece that is white grain on black, rather than black grain on white. Do you happen to have a link or suggestion to use as the underlying primer sealer for black? I have only found white primer sealer. Thank you :)
Hi...the black I use is ML Campbell primer undercoat .The number on the can is B115749. It also says on the can the name Magna Claw. Hope this helps...thanks for watching.
@@WoodworkingWithWes thank you! Do you use the White Vinyl Polymer for the white grains on top of that black or is it a white glaze that is a different number?
Can a white on white be done.
What grit sanding sponge did you use at the end?
Hi Jamie...it just indicates a "fine" grit on that. Thanks for watching, Wes
How can I do green with gold grain?
How do you do the black one on the right? And can it be done on. Pallet wood boards??
Please watch a video that we made showing the cerusing process on 11 different kinds of wood. We also have many videos on color combinations. Thanks. Wes
Is it possible to do a dark blue with red glaze?
Hi Paul...color combinations are your choice and the process is always the same. Thanks for watching. Wes
Does the wood need to be real smooth, what grit do you use before using the wire wheel?
Jason...the wood does not need to be smooth, just begin with the wire wheel. Thanks for watching. Wes
@WoodworkingWithWes could you use Rubio monocoat instead of spray lacquer on the final coat?
Rubio Monocoat is actually a color coat and does not require a top coat. Thanks for watching. Wes
Can I spray a waterborne top coat like sayerlack hydroplus over that oil base glaze?
Yes...just make sure the glaze is completely dry. Thanks.
Wes, I've finally become comfortable in my ability to create beautiful ceruzed finishes and am ready to take them to market. I own a painting company in Sioux City and wanted to bring something unusual to the market because it seems that all anyone wants us to do is paint their kitchen cabinets white. The question is, how do I price this new offering? Any feedback you have would be appreciated.
Brian...first I want to suggest watching our latest cerusing video on what I would consider the best glazing product available.
ruclips.net/video/kZDk0CBRS3I/видео.html
As far as pricing is concerned, I am not sure what your market will bare. I would suggest a time and material format. This tends to be a labor intensive process and you will want to price accordingly. With practice, of course, you will become faster. That is where I would start. Good luck...with the amount of response we get, I am sure you will do well. Thanks Wes
What nylon grit are you using with your sander to get this finished? Do you change nylon grits?
There was only one nylon wheel included with the Makita wheel sander and if I remember correctly, it was just labeled "medium". Thanks for watching, Wes
Do you think that I could do the hallway on my second floor that is red oak and the hand railing which is also oak to look pretty similar to each other? They are both 30 plus years of golden oak stain. Would I just use the machine that you use from the start or should I sand it all down to start? What color combo did you do where the main part is black and the top is white or gray? Ty
Hi...no need to strip the finish from your golden oak pieces. I would like to suggest viewing some of our videos on cerusing golden oak doors. On the dark sample I used a black pigmented lacquer and a white glaze to highlight the grain and finished with a clear top coat. Hope this helps. Wes
@@WoodworkingWithWes I will check them out, but I’m guessing that I have seen them already. I have the dreaded golden oak cabinets as well.
So I don’t need to strip that’s promising
What type of paint would you suggest that I use for the red oak floors? I’ll be rolling it . I’m watching the cabinet video now. Great videos
What grit is that nylon wheel
the sanding wheel is 80 girt? or what girt do you use to make ceruse? thanks Wes!
The nylon wheel on the Makita wheel sander was just labeled "fine". Thanks for watching, Wes
could you do this on oak plywood? Or does it not have enough grain cuz the veneer isnt thick??
I have had acceptable success with this process on real wood veneer with a plywood or MDF core. Test it out and see what you think. Thanks, Wes
So do I have the process correct? 1) Sand with 120 Grit 2) Use wire wheel to open the grain 3) Would it help to use a wood conditioner prior to using the Primer/Sealer? 4) How long should you let the primer/sealer dry prior to applying the Glaze? 5) Apply Glaze by brush and then use fine sanding sponge to push the glaze into the grain better; wait 10 minutes then wipe down with a clean cloth 6) Apply one coat of lacquer, or should you apply two coats for a stair tread? Thank you!
Sounds like you have a good plan with your added steps...go for it! Thanks, Wes
What is white vinyl primer?
Is that the same as regular primer, or a completely different product?
Vinyl primer is different than an oil or water based primer. Check with your paint supplier and they will be able to help you with your product choice. Thank you for watching...I appreciate the support.
Can the primer be brushed or needs to be sprayed?
Check out our videos showing paint brush applications for this cerusing technique. Thanks for watching. Wes
Oh man, I must've not used the correct product because my project didn't look anything like this when I was done. Lowes doesn't have these products so I improvised with what I thought were comparables. It's not a big deal since I used a piece of scrap wood to test. Still a bummer.
Could the primer be brushed on if I don’t have a sprayer?
The primer that I use is spray only...I would suggest checking with your paint supplier for a quality primer sealer that could be brushed on. Because I spray only I am not familiar with other options but I am sure they are available. Thanks for watching...hope that helps.
Appreciate the response. Awesome looking end result.
Hi, is it waterbased you are using?
Vinyl primer is not a water based product...it is chemical based. Thank you.
Can I do all this with a painting brush?
Yes. Check out our videos using paint brush/roller applications. Thank you Wes
What happens if the wood grain pattern doesn't show up after the first sanding? After the wire brush? Cause I did both and no wood grain pattern. What did I do wrong!
Hi Ilene...first, I need to know what kind of wood you are working with? If it is oak, the grain should show easily with wire brushing. If you can let me know further details on the wood you are using, I will help you the best I can. Thanks.
Can you ceruse cherry cabinets?
Check out our latest video to help you out with this...
ruclips.net/video/iOH8RAJLKKs/видео.html
will this work on birch ?
Hi Matt...I have found the results to be unsatisfactory in the softer grain woods such as birch. I would recommend trying a test piece and see what you think. Thanks for watching.
I forgot to sand before glazing?? How to fix please
So I'm a poor man. How well does this method work with pine? Is it too soft?
What would be another way to texturize without having the Makita wheel sander? A wire brush?
Yes...a wire brush or a wire wheel on a drill could be used. Thank you for visiting my channel. Wes
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@@anthonydonald6001 Thank you very much...I appreciate your support and hope you enjoy the videos. Wes
Great Video Wes! I went shopping for Nylon drums as I'm using the Eastwood SCT (surface conditioning tool) and there are nylon drums from 60 grit all the way up to 600 grit with every stepping stone in between. May I ask what grit you are using in your burnishing tool?
The nylon wheel that I am using came with my Makita and I couldn't find an indication of what grit. It is fairly stiff and I would assume 60 or 80 grit (this is just a guess...sorry) Hope this helps...thanks for watching.
Oil based glaze is same as oil enamel?
No, different products. Thanks for watching. Wes
What about maple? How would that do
I haven't tried it on maple so I am not sure how well it would do. Do a test and let me know :)) Thanks for watching!
How can I get the chemical used in the wood making and processing and I need your contacts ...
Hi
I will.like to contact you for training or how to this by ourselves
Hi Paul...unfortunately I am not available for personal training. I think if you rewatch the video and follow the instructions you will do just fine. Good luck...thanks for visiting my channel. Wes
Why glaze? Why not just another paint? What is special about glaze?
Hi...paint and glaze are different products with different specific application results. In this process paint over paint would not give you the same results. Thanks for watching. Wes
Had anyone successfully used pine doing this technique?
We found pine to be less satisfactory than hardwoods with distinctive grain such as oak and ash. I suggest you doing a test and judge the results for yourself. Thank you very much for watching.
Can Nigeria wood do this?????
So sorry...I am not familiar with the Nigerian woods. Thanks for watching, Wes
S U P E R.......
Thank you very much....so glad you enjoyed it
Hi Wes, how much time do you let the primer sit before applying the glaze and before sanding the glaze? Thankyou.
I'm making some french cleats for the bedroom and would like to spice them up a bit.
Is that oak plywood
No it is solid wood. Veneer plywoods would allow enough texture. Thanks for watching. Wes
Damn it I wanted to see the black with white grain😔
We will have other videos upcoming with different color combinations. Thank you. Wes