0:40 : Shas'la: Shas'vre! A heavily-armed space marine just appeared from behind that tumbleweed! Shas'vre: What?! Impossible, that would have taken some kind of Tactical Geniu......CREEEEEEED!
This game is set sometime after The Damocles Gulf Crusade. So maybe Governor Severus saw a sensible need to request few Astartes. The Chapter Master must've agreed with his reasons. :-)
Bolters do fire caseless auto reactive self propelled rounds which explode a few milliseconds after impact. Thus, the rocket firing bolters here are most accurately depicted.
I can't remember how many Raptors were working for Severus, or if they got betrayed by the plot develop. I need to replay that. The laspistol was op at close range, and the lasrifle felt more like a hellgun. Boy that thing was rapid
On the top of my head I can think of 8 raptors (the one in the prison, the five on the tau bridge and the two sergants on the imperial bridge) not sure how many show up during your stroll through the imperial ship. Think in the book they mention that there is a company of Raptors onboard the Imperial ship... there is also a company of Ultramarines onboard and aparently they were never told about each other but discovers that by themselves after a while, the Ultramarines are not amused by that :P But yeah the Raptors seems to just vanish after the Ultramarines apear, can't remember what the book said about what happend to them... maybe the Ultramarines shamed them into a corner of the ship for not being able to stop a lone fire warrior :P
Interesting note. The Raptors are a secondary founding chapter of the Raven Guard, who are rather well-known for ignoring the typical doctrines laid out in the Codex Astartes. Instead, they operate in smaller force-groups, lending their aid to Imperial Guard and Space Marine forces that meet their standards - which is why they were taking orders from Severus. After Captain Arius shows up with his Ultramarines Arius explains the situation, and the Raptors pull out to alert the Inquisition.
@NicholasGeschke - It does depend on the chapter and the race in question. Loyalist chapters have been known to make alliances with Eldar, for instance, where a common foe like Chaos is concerned. This would races like the Orks who cannot be reasoned with at all.
Wow, what a gratifying scene, especially seeing a Space Marine stomp that Tau into the dust! I've never seen the game because I would never spend a freakin' red cent on anything Tau.
The Holiest of ammo is hard to acquire. He was making sure he used the Emperor's valuable resources to best effect. Such is the duty of a Marine. But your zealous attention to duty speaks well of you, Brother.
Well, you got the explosive bit right. Actually the standard boltguns as seen here are .75 calibre. That is 0.15 more than one of our heaviest guns, which is the M2 Browning. The heavy boltgun is 1.00. THAT is massive. It would do slighly less than depicted in this movie but either way you would be smashed. Boltguns in Fire Warrior are depicted as slow firing rocket launchers. They are essentialy a Gyrojet (look it up on wikipedia.) with added power.
@Henners1991 The problem with Fire Warrior is that those bolter rounds are awkwardly slow moving. Try hitting a moving target with those from over 80 meters... It's actually slower than paintball projectiles. Bolter rounds are supposed to be faster than rifle rounds because in addition to standard propellant which make them fast before they leave the barrel they have those rocket boosters. So it's extremely fast, heavy and powerfull weapon.
Right. I forgot about the whole 'jingoistic imperium' thing. I always thought (for some reason) that warhammar marines would act more like the marines in Starcraft.
@NovembersTerra Well, Space Marines /are/ supposed to co-operate with local Imperial authorities. Of course, it often doesn't quite work out that way... Heck, even the Black Templars proved themselves to be surprisingly good team players in the 3rd Armageddon War.
This took place b4 the herecy when marine guns were just rocket rifles. after the herecy the bullets were considerably smaller but just as explosive and could be fired out of a barrel quicker! that should answer a few questions ;)
well there is one german film called Damnatus that has been in produktion for a couple of years now and then there was going to be a CG version of Bloodquest but it was canceled.
Tau seem like good guys, lol. They try to make peace at every turn. And its not like they FORCE them into their cause, they ask nicely...most of the time responded by deadly attack. :P
In the book it's explained that the Governor managed to convince Magos from the Adeptus Biologis to acquire a Tau Etheral for study and they wrangled a squad of Raptors for the mission.
why does everyone dislike this game... i loved it =] but then again i play tau as my army lol as for the comment about the space marines shameing themselves the space marines share a keen hate for all this alien they wudnt reret this and wudnt hesitate to do it again and again still i think its great that tau got a game XD even if very few like it woo go tau!
Have a Gray Knight as a main character; that'll make the game REEEEALLLY balanced. Balanced as in easy. On the plus side, that probably would men that you'd get to fight greater daemons and armies of enemies.
sorry what i ment to say was that there are dreadnoughts who while they have ancient armour if it is damaged in any way they fix it up to look like new sorta lol. as for the armour yes and no there is old armour given to marines but there is the newer pattern being made the mark VIII Errant pattern is being made but not widely used as mark VII aqulia is mainly used. but while veichles are old and ancient there are some who are new not all tech is lost otherwise nothing would be fixed
@uBrosis Game developers are known to get things wrong and so have the writers of 40k novels, look at C.S.Goto for example, the armour in this scene looks like Raven guard, not raptors.
This cutscene is pre-heresy. Thats why they are using rocket rifles. After heresy, the adeptus astartes used bolter rounds rather than rocktes for the same affect but faster firing rate.
@uBrosis They tried, and failed, to make the bolters like they are in fluff, as bolters are loaded with explosive rounds. Saddly, these bolter rounds are a bit TOO explosive.
It takes place before the Damocles Gulf Crusade. Captain Ardias - the friendly Ultramarine - later fights against the Tau in that crusade and is seriously injured.
i collected TAU very awesome!!! if that was me i would hav had some xv88 broadside battlesuits with twin linked railguns mmmm strength 10, armour penetration 1, range 72 mmmm so destructable
Funny thing is, a proper Lasgun at full power is more powerful than a Firewarrior Pulse Rifle or at least AS powerful as it was used during the Golden Age, but they either can't make the proper clips/guns anymore or they just find it more efficient to just focus on making more. Memories hazy but I definitely remember reading that. I imagine there's a similar story with a lot of Imperium technology. They forget how to make and use their own crap properly.
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First contact with the Tau homeworld was made in the 35th Millennium in other words 5 thousand years after the Horus Heresy and at that time they where at a stone age level of technology. So we can pretty much rule out that it was during the Horus heresy.
Ok, So that you all know: The Dark Angels (And all their subsequent founding offshoot chapters) are know as the 'Unforgiven' due to an internal heresy just before the time of the Horus Heresy. Basically what happened was...: Lion'El Johnsons best friend and second in command of the Dark Angels chapter became jealous of the lion, and so when most of the Dark Angels were called away to fight, he corrupted the new recruits into thinking The Lion was evil, as were all that follow him.
Don't think so, not sure if they ever say when it takes place but it sounds more like they are in "peace" at the moment the game takes place. So I'm pretty sure this is just a isolated border incident.
Funny thing is, the Boltguns in this cutscene are closer to what they would be like in Dawn of War. Boltguns shoot big-ass rounds (approximately .75 calibre. Yes, bigger than the Barret sniper rifle), the Bolts hit the target, penetrate the target, and then blow the fuck up. Getting hit with a Bolt is somewhat like getting hit by an Astartes fist. And then the fist explodes inside your chest. And contrary to DoW, the Bolters aren't fucking SMGs. They can't pump out rounds that big on full auto.
But wasn't Luna Wolves the first Legion raised by The Emperor after finding Horus? In many codex that I have read, there was a close friendhsip between emperor and the future corrupted Warmaster, being the only Primarch for many years aviable for the Great Crusade
Oh and by the way, the definition of a 'grenade launcher' implies there is no propulsion. Otherwise it would be specified. Like an RPG (ROCKET propelled grenade).
Actually, that's not as true as you think. Honourable Space Marines have gone so far as to get into fist fights with their commanders over sick and cruel orders. It happens with the Blood Angels, Space Wolves, and Salamanders every once in a while. Of course they are considered the most friendly toward civilians out of other Space Marine chapters.
When the dark angels returned to their home world of Caliban, their own orbital defenses opened fire on the fleet. The Dark Angels had no choice but to completely ruin their own planet. After a lengthy bombardment of the planet, The Lion went to the surface of the planet... He then confronts his second in command in their monastery and a clash ensues: The power of which ripped the world to shreds. Finaly it comes down to the heretical Dark Angels being sucked into the warp.
Were they Salamanders? I saw a green shoulder pauldron and black armor so I assumed they were Deathwatch. I've never played the game myself, though, so shows what I know.
For a start, Tau plasma tech IS more advanced than the Imperium's. The fact they harness it in the weapon of every single trooper in a safe way, imo, is far more advacned than a rare and little understood weapon which can melt the users face off. Tau AI is just as intelligent, if not more so, than a land raiders machine spirit, as they too have AI (such as drones, the Remora stealth fighter and more) which can differentiate between friendly and hostilet targets, operating inependantly.
why does everyone say this game is so bad? i played it back in the day and it was good during its time. anywho, space marine is going to be a sick ass game. hopefully they make a full game for the LEGIONS OF CHAOS
On the power armour strengths, a battlesuit is huge, granted, but from what I've beel told, the Kill Team novel gets numerous things about the Tau wrong in general, from how battlesuits are manned to Tau beliefs. Of course, as I said, this is just what I've been informed. And on the note of "depending on where the guardsman is from", no standard Guardsman from any planet of the 42nd millenium is as well equipped as a fire warrior, I am quite sure. Stormtroopers on the other hand...
The Dark Angels are now on an eternal hunt to find and force the Fallen to repent for their sins and causing the chapter disgrace (As the DA are the first founded chapter of SM in the imperium)...and until every last fallen is accounted for and his soul cleansed and past on to the emporer, they shall be Unforgiven for their chapters previous sins... An elongated story that explains it all in more detail can be found in the Dark Angels Codex!
The Tau are nothing more than a annoyance to the Imperium. Luckily for the Tau, the Imperium is currently busy dealing with the Tyranids threat and Black Crusade.
bumbii9, Relic is allowed to do whatever they want with their characters. To be fair, their bolter image is a big red-orange-yellow streak... In modded DoW games (DoW:FoK:CtC) there bolter rounds look much more like huge explosive shells.
@TheBronze3ye Hehe, okay sorry. But seriously, the Raptors are a successor chapter to the Raven Guard, it is a legit chapter. No I haven't read the Black Templar codex, so maybe you are right about that, but it makes no sense that they would be "the most feared". For what? Not having psykers :P? That's the only special thing about them.
@Charliescene93 Yes they do take orders from planetary governors, if they are assigned to that world. Well yeah, the Tau probably would have shot down the astartes. But to be fair, the Raptors are masters of inflitration, I guess they managed to land undetected somehow.
lol in fire warrior bolters definetely remind me of rocket launchers I blasted an imperial guardsmen into pieces when I got it from a dead space marine. Although in Dawn of War they seem more like machine guns.
@H0opotus You are right, but the Fire Warrior's way of showing them as a rocket launcher firing veeery slow moving projectiles is just as wrong. It should be an enormous assault rifle firing ultra-powerfull and fast rocket propelled projectiles - the mix of DoW and FW. Unfortunately, both games are really lacking when speaking of bolters.
o? i didnt knw that. I figured they were massive machinegun type things that rapidly fired...err...Bolts.(i figured these were just really really big bullets. like half a foot in length bullets)
One thing that doesnt make sense is that Raptors are stationed on the planet.. THEN the Ultramarines 3rd company show up, whom have no relations to the Raptors, and then Chaos Marines taking orders from a human? Like that would ever happen... Well that was actually 3 things xD And a Navy Admiral would never be stationed on a Astartes strike cruiser/battle barge. Plus.. A fire warrior beating a dreadnought, and a daemon prince?? Somehow i doubt it :p
You'd say that's what the fiery streak was? Tbh I have no idea what a bolter round would look like; just know what they're like in other video games... so I just assumed if these "look different" they'd be a hellfire round or something.
0:40 :
Shas'la: Shas'vre! A heavily-armed space marine just appeared from behind that tumbleweed!
Shas'vre: What?! Impossible, that would have taken some kind of Tactical Geniu......CREEEEEEED!
For once, someone gets a Bolter right!
To be fair Space Marine got it right as well.
Way too slow a projectile. This is not correct.
But, why are Space Marines, the Angels of Death, The Emperors Fury, taking direct orders from a lowly planetary governor?
This game is set sometime after The Damocles Gulf Crusade. So maybe Governor Severus saw a sensible need to request few Astartes. The Chapter Master must've agreed with his reasons. :-)
how do you let a 9 foot super human in heavy armour sneak up on you?
They're the motherfucking Raptors.
You don't, but plotmagic.
CREEEEEEEED
Suffer not the Xeno to live!
Actually Tau enjoying their lives, unlike most of imperial citizens.
Bolters do fire caseless auto reactive self propelled rounds which explode a few milliseconds after impact. Thus, the rocket firing bolters here are most accurately depicted.
I can't remember how many Raptors were working for Severus, or if they got betrayed by the plot develop. I need to replay that. The laspistol was op at close range, and the lasrifle felt more like a hellgun. Boy that thing was rapid
On the top of my head I can think of 8 raptors (the one in the prison, the five on the tau bridge and the two sergants on the imperial bridge) not sure how many show up during your stroll through the imperial ship.
Think in the book they mention that there is a company of Raptors onboard the Imperial ship... there is also a company of Ultramarines onboard and aparently they were never told about each other but discovers that by themselves after a while, the Ultramarines are not amused by that :P
But yeah the Raptors seems to just vanish after the Ultramarines apear, can't remember what the book said about what happend to them... maybe the Ultramarines shamed them into a corner of the ship for not being able to stop a lone fire warrior :P
Interesting note.
The Raptors are a secondary founding chapter of the Raven Guard, who are rather well-known for ignoring the typical doctrines laid out in the Codex Astartes. Instead, they operate in smaller force-groups, lending their aid to Imperial Guard and Space Marine forces that meet their standards - which is why they were taking orders from Severus. After Captain Arius shows up with his Ultramarines Arius explains the situation, and the Raptors pull out to alert the Inquisition.
"No witnesses". Who needs witnesses when you have the whole place littered with bolter casings and dead tau?
Well, at least the bolter felt like a bolter. That's about the only good thing about the game, though.
@NicholasGeschke - It does depend on the chapter and the race in question. Loyalist chapters have been known to make alliances with Eldar, for instance, where a common foe like Chaos is concerned. This would races like the Orks who cannot be reasoned with at all.
WOAH!!! i just realized that shas o kais is in this game and as a comander in dow dc!!! :P
but they are pronounced differently
@Pooknottin Deathwatch have black power armor, silver left arm. Those are Raptors, a successor chapter of the Raven Guard.
Wow, what a gratifying scene, especially seeing a Space Marine stomp that Tau into the dust! I've never seen the game because I would never spend a freakin' red cent on anything Tau.
They are not Salamanders! they say in the game and in the novel that they are from the Raptors chapter!
Why would he even bother to ask? The answer was obvious to any space marine. Suffer not the xeno!
The Holiest of ammo is hard to acquire. He was making sure he used the Emperor's valuable resources to best effect. Such is the duty of a Marine.
But your zealous attention to duty speaks well of you, Brother.
Well, you got the explosive bit right. Actually the standard boltguns as seen here are .75 calibre. That is 0.15 more than one of our heaviest guns, which is the M2 Browning. The heavy boltgun is 1.00. THAT is massive. It would do slighly less than depicted in this movie but either way you would be smashed. Boltguns in Fire Warrior are depicted as slow firing rocket launchers. They are essentialy a Gyrojet (look it up on wikipedia.) with added power.
@Henners1991 The problem with Fire Warrior is that those bolter rounds are awkwardly slow moving. Try hitting a moving target with those from over 80 meters... It's actually slower than paintball projectiles. Bolter rounds are supposed to be faster than rifle rounds because in addition to standard propellant which make them fast before they leave the barrel they have those rocket boosters. So it's extremely fast, heavy and powerfull weapon.
Were those regular marines or the chaos variety?
Raven Guard successors, eh? Might not be Deathwatch, but very badass! Thanks for the info.
Right. I forgot about the whole 'jingoistic imperium' thing. I always thought (for some reason) that warhammar marines would act more like the marines in Starcraft.
@agarside1000 They are from the Raptors chapter and they are actually using bolters it's just that the bolters in the game are rather weird.
@NovembersTerra
Well, Space Marines /are/ supposed to co-operate with local Imperial authorities. Of course, it often doesn't quite work out that way...
Heck, even the Black Templars proved themselves to be surprisingly good team players in the 3rd Armageddon War.
They are from the Raptors chapter and they are the SM you get to fight before the Ultramarines and Choas who arrive later in the game.
They were Xeno, so I'm completely okay with this purge :D
The Raptor chapter is awesome.
The Tyranids aren't evil. They just consume to survive and grow. Like a swarm of Locusts on a galactic scale.
tho this may seem off topic. quite has been spelt wrong in the description and has been spelt quiet
This took place b4 the herecy when marine guns were just rocket rifles.
after the herecy the bullets were considerably smaller but just as explosive and could be fired out of a barrel quicker!
that should answer a few questions ;)
Yay humans rule!!! You gotta love those space marines.
@HelC001 Anyway in this intro movie it's way too slow. To do serious damage you need high velocity, not 300km/h ;p
@therealrob99 They are from the Raptors chapter.
well there is one german film called Damnatus that has been in produktion for a couple of years now and then there was going to be a CG version of Bloodquest but it was canceled.
Tau seem like good guys, lol. They try to make peace at every turn. And its not like they FORCE them into their cause, they ask nicely...most of the time responded by deadly attack. :P
In the book it's explained that the Governor managed to convince Magos from the Adeptus Biologis to acquire a Tau Etheral for study and they wrangled a squad of Raptors for the mission.
why does everyone dislike this game... i loved it =] but then again i play tau as my army lol as for the comment about the space marines shameing themselves the space marines share a keen hate for all this alien they wudnt reret this and wudnt hesitate to do it again and again still i think its great that tau got a game XD even if very few like it woo go tau!
@gondor14013 Well they are still from the Raptors chapter as they say in the game and in the novell :/
Have a Gray Knight as a main character; that'll make the game REEEEALLLY balanced.
Balanced as in easy.
On the plus side, that probably would men that you'd get to fight greater daemons and armies of enemies.
sorry what i ment to say was that there are dreadnoughts who while they have ancient armour if it is damaged in any way they fix it up to look like new sorta lol. as for the armour yes and no there is old armour given to marines but there is the newer pattern being made the mark VIII Errant pattern is being made but not widely used as mark VII aqulia is mainly used. but while veichles are old and ancient there are some who are new not all tech is lost otherwise nothing would be fixed
@uBrosis Game developers are known to get things wrong and so have the writers of 40k novels, look at C.S.Goto for example, the armour in this scene looks like Raven guard, not raptors.
This cutscene is pre-heresy. Thats why they are using rocket rifles. After heresy, the adeptus astartes used bolter rounds rather than rocktes for the same affect but faster firing rate.
@uBrosis
They tried, and failed, to make the bolters like they are in fluff, as bolters are loaded with explosive rounds. Saddly, these bolter rounds are a bit TOO explosive.
It takes place before the Damocles Gulf Crusade. Captain Ardias - the friendly Ultramarine - later fights against the Tau in that crusade and is seriously injured.
i collected TAU very awesome!!! if that was me i would hav had some xv88 broadside battlesuits with twin linked railguns mmmm strength 10, armour penetration 1, range 72 mmmm so destructable
Funny thing is, a proper Lasgun at full power is more powerful than a Firewarrior Pulse Rifle or at least AS powerful as it was used during the Golden Age, but they either can't make the proper clips/guns anymore or they just find it more efficient to just focus on making more. Memories hazy but I definitely remember reading that. I imagine there's a similar story with a lot of Imperium technology. They forget how to make and use their own crap properly.
which part of "in the grim darkness of the future there is only war" do you not understand?
wat legion of space marine is that?
they sound so messed
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Have a nice day :)
how did space marine get there ?.
Magic! :P
Or you could blame the Tau's bad eye sight :P
First contact with the Tau homeworld was made in the 35th Millennium in other words 5 thousand years after the Horus Heresy and at that time they where at a stone age level of technology.
So we can pretty much rule out that it was during the Horus heresy.
for the greater good what game is this from?
Ok, So that you all know:
The Dark Angels (And all their subsequent founding offshoot chapters) are know as the 'Unforgiven' due to an internal heresy just before the time of the Horus Heresy.
Basically what happened was...:
Lion'El Johnsons best friend and second in command of the Dark Angels chapter became jealous of the lion, and so when most of the Dark Angels were called away to fight, he corrupted the new recruits into thinking The Lion was evil, as were all that follow him.
Don't think so, not sure if they ever say when it takes place but it sounds more like they are in "peace" at the moment the game takes place.
So I'm pretty sure this is just a isolated border incident.
The cut scenes from this game were the only things worth seeing.
I have to ask, I've seen the creed joke a few times. Is it in reference to Creed of Cadia the tactical genius?
There is no good or evil. Only for the emperor or against him.
Funny thing is, the Boltguns in this cutscene are closer to what they would be like in Dawn of War. Boltguns shoot big-ass rounds (approximately .75 calibre. Yes, bigger than the Barret sniper rifle), the Bolts hit the target, penetrate the target, and then blow the fuck up. Getting hit with a Bolt is somewhat like getting hit by an Astartes fist. And then the fist explodes inside your chest. And contrary to DoW, the Bolters aren't fucking SMGs. They can't pump out rounds that big on full auto.
But wasn't Luna Wolves the first Legion raised by The Emperor after finding Horus?
In many codex that I have read, there was a close friendhsip between emperor and the future corrupted Warmaster, being the only Primarch for many years aviable for the Great Crusade
Which means?
Oh and by the way, the definition of a 'grenade launcher' implies there is no propulsion. Otherwise it would be specified. Like an RPG (ROCKET propelled grenade).
well in the war hammer universe I'm unsure who I would side with most likely tau since I played warhammer dark crusade
the only way the bolters could be more accurate would be if they fired in four round bursts. (it says so in one of the codexes or something)
Personally i really enjoyed playing Firewarrior on the Playstation 2.
No witnesses, LOL! The whole square is full of bodies with bolter wounds and there must be lots of bolter shells with imperial markings left!
No this is during the horus heresy, when the ultramarines are battling the word bearers. The Tau got caught up in it unfortunatly.
@EpicPally12 Well the Raven Guard have black armour and that these guys have green armour....
@fattoler For dramatic effect maybe? :P
Actually, that's not as true as you think. Honourable Space Marines have gone so far as to get into fist fights with their commanders over sick and cruel orders. It happens with the Blood Angels, Space Wolves, and Salamanders every once in a while. Of course they are considered the most friendly toward civilians out of other Space Marine chapters.
When the dark angels returned to their home world of Caliban, their own orbital defenses opened fire on the fleet. The Dark Angels had no choice but to completely ruin their own planet.
After a lengthy bombardment of the planet, The Lion went to the surface of the planet...
He then confronts his second in command in their monastery and a clash ensues: The power of which ripped the world to shreds.
Finaly it comes down to the heretical Dark Angels being sucked into the warp.
Actually, a bolter fire AP fuse delay mini rocket (like the US gyrojet)
Were they Salamanders? I saw a green shoulder pauldron and black armor so I assumed they were Deathwatch. I've never played the game myself, though, so shows what I know.
For a start, Tau plasma tech IS more advanced than the Imperium's. The fact they harness it in the weapon of every single trooper in a safe way, imo, is far more advacned than a rare and little understood weapon which can melt the users face off.
Tau AI is just as intelligent, if not more so, than a land raiders machine spirit, as they too have AI (such as drones, the Remora stealth fighter and more) which can differentiate between friendly and hostilet targets, operating inependantly.
why does everyone say this game is so bad? i played it back in the day and it was good during its time. anywho, space marine is going to be a sick ass game. hopefully they make a full game for the LEGIONS OF CHAOS
On the power armour strengths, a battlesuit is huge, granted, but from what I've beel told, the Kill Team novel gets numerous things about the Tau wrong in general, from how battlesuits are manned to Tau beliefs. Of course, as I said, this is just what I've been informed.
And on the note of "depending on where the guardsman is from", no standard Guardsman from any planet of the 42nd millenium is as well equipped as a fire warrior, I am quite sure. Stormtroopers on the other hand...
I dont see why this game was thought so bad by people. My friend has it, and though i played it 2 years ago, i still found it pretty cool.
Youre right on target kitfox.
For the Emperor !
They are from the Raptor Chapter.
The Dark Angels are now on an eternal hunt to find and force the Fallen to repent for
their sins and causing the chapter disgrace (As the DA are the first founded chapter of SM in the imperium)...and until every last fallen is accounted for and his soul cleansed and past on to the emporer, they shall be Unforgiven for their chapters previous sins...
An elongated story that explains it all in more detail can be found in the Dark Angels Codex!
What happened to the Raptors once the Ultramarines took over?
@Jaakynsi Yeah okay then. Makes sense ^^. But still, those are not Black Templars ;D.
The Tau are nothing more than a annoyance to the Imperium. Luckily for the Tau, the Imperium is currently busy dealing with the Tyranids threat and Black Crusade.
bumbii9, Relic is allowed to do whatever they want with their characters. To be fair, their bolter image is a big red-orange-yellow streak...
In modded DoW games (DoW:FoK:CtC) there bolter rounds look much more like huge explosive shells.
Now I realize bolter shells should probably be big and have a smoke trail, but I think they over did it in fire warrior.
@TheBronze3ye Hehe, okay sorry. But seriously, the Raptors are a successor chapter to the Raven Guard, it is a legit chapter. No I haven't read the Black Templar codex, so maybe you are right about that, but it makes no sense that they would be "the most feared". For what? Not having psykers :P? That's the only special thing about them.
@Charliescene93 Yes they do take orders from planetary governors, if they are assigned to that world. Well yeah, the Tau probably would have shot down the astartes. But to be fair, the Raptors are masters of inflitration, I guess they managed to land undetected somehow.
Finally, a game that gets the bolters right.
well they say that they are from the Raptors chapter in the game... so you are wrong :)
lol in fire warrior bolters definetely remind me of rocket launchers I blasted an imperial guardsmen into pieces when I got it from a dead space marine. Although in Dawn of War they seem more like machine guns.
Some body did his homework. That's good.
boltguns are 20mm guns which fire explosive ammunition at submachinegun rates
@H0opotus You are right, but the Fire Warrior's way of showing them as a rocket launcher firing veeery slow moving projectiles is just as wrong. It should be an enormous assault rifle firing ultra-powerfull and fast rocket propelled projectiles - the mix of DoW and FW. Unfortunately, both games are really lacking when speaking of bolters.
o? i didnt knw that. I figured they were massive machinegun type things that rapidly fired...err...Bolts.(i figured these were just really really big bullets. like half a foot in length bullets)
One thing that doesnt make sense is that Raptors are stationed on the planet.. THEN the Ultramarines 3rd company show up, whom have no relations to the Raptors, and then Chaos Marines taking orders from a human? Like that would ever happen... Well that was actually 3 things xD And a Navy Admiral would never be stationed on a Astartes strike cruiser/battle barge. Plus.. A fire warrior beating a dreadnought, and a daemon prince?? Somehow i doubt it :p
thanks
You'd say that's what the fiery streak was?
Tbh I have no idea what a bolter round would look like; just know what they're like in other video games... so I just assumed if these "look different" they'd be a hellfire round or something.
@Jaakynsi Nope, they were made for the Badab War conflict.
"No witnesses!" like that part
and they'll go out with a really big bang
THQ should make some Halo type game where people can play as all different infantries in different races...