I kinda see it more like playing politics with them "It's not your fault we're in charge, you're all cool, your boss just sucked. We'll run things better."
One more thing of note: since Muay Thai was more of a militaristic form of combat employed in deadly scenarios, it was always aimed at being lethal. The use of elbows and knees was not to defend, but to expressly kill your opponent, which makes it one of the only martial arts that was not created for self-defense, but for assassination.
yeah, kinda like how Krav Maga was developed with a focus on practicality and efficiency in real world scenarios like street fights (like teaching awareness of surroundings and any usable weapons you or your opponent may use and targeting weak points of the body which are forbidden in combat sports). For all the coolness of certain martial arts, usually there is a history to them and their movements would be linked to things like prayer, use in demonstrations, etc. Then there are those that are just designed to "kill that motherfucker before he kills you so stop doing a bunch of fancy flips"
There is an older form of Muay Thai that isn't Boran, or Muay Ayutthaya (and similar regional styles and so on) named Lerdrit. Think of it as like MT with battlefield application, hence more "dirtier" strikes that can cause immense pain.
As a guy who trains in muay thai, I hope they demonstrated more the clinch. It is one of the biggest aspects in thai fighting that makes it different from most striking martial arts. Once they get a hold of you, you will get kneed, elbowed, and most importantly, thrown
its hard to incorporate in this style of fighting game, but I guess there are throws which are also in Muay Thai and come out of clinches. Id love a MMA influenced 3d fighting game that has clinching, mounting, etc. mechanics incorporated into classic 3d fundamentals to show off shit like Judo, BJJ, Muay Thai, Sambo, etc. to their fullest extent!
Fun fact: Even though you use a lot of footage of saw paing from the anime kengan ashura, he does not practice muay thai but instead Lethwei, an albeit similar fighting style from myanmar where headbutts are allowed
Yeah, but the "God of War" Gaolong hasn't unveiled his his Muay Thai yet, only his Boxing. But good news! Kengan Season 2 is coming out in 2023. I would have like to see Annie from AoT since she does Muay Thai too.
I'm always pretty sad that none of the Muay Thai characters in any fighting games say make any of the fighting/spectating sounds you would hear at any gym in Thailand, and even in a lot of gyms in the west now. I've always thought fighters and their training partners watching them shouting stuff like "oowee" was both really cool and really funny.
when I was learning is was more like "OO-EESH!" or so, big load thing. My instructor said its useful for training yourself to properly breathe and push the full force of your muscles into your techniques
@@Kinos141 it is said during actual fights, but more so by corner men and the audience. Part of the reason they make those sounds is to emphasize when the fighter gets a good hit in so the judges notice. I still think it would be a nice nod to the culture surrounding Muay Thai for the sound to be included in a fighting game
I had no idea Muay Thai had such a "ritualistic" background too, kinda like Sumo. In my country the schools and practitioners I've run into all just treat it like a sport and nothing else. The entire cultural baggage was lost somewhere along the lines. The research and breakdown of these gotta be my favorite part of these videos, quick, thorough and to the point. Great series! PS: Do you plan on doing a Swords/Samurai in the future? I can't wait to see characters like Nagoriyuki, Hakumen, Yoshimitsu get a turn at their "bringing a sword to a fist fight" style, lol.
@@frankmendieta3857 Well... Haohmaru is kinda cheating as he's in a game _about_ samurais, lol. I was thinking about more about fighting games with some sword wielders instead of games that are centered specifically around weapon combat (e.g. SamSho, Soul Calibur, Bushido Blade)
Could also cover the rarely represented school of HEMA, maybe roll fencing into it as well. Altho fencing may need its own video, there's a lot to discuss.
1:32 Saw Paing in Kengan Ashura is from Burma/Myanmar and uses Lethwei. Kaolan, his rival is a Muay Thai champ. Lethwei is similar to Muay Thai but they can use headbutts and no gloves in competitions.
I don't think it's a coincidence that Saw Paing is voiced by Nobuyuki Hiyama in Japanese, since he was Joe Higashi's voice in the Fatal Fury anime and then voiced the character from Fatal Fury 3 up to KOF XIII
Muay Thai characters are some of my favorites. King and Sagat are always ALWAYS one of my mains or a character I can grab and do well with in their respective games.
As a thai and your subscriber im glad you did this about muay thai in here thailand is largely known for tours i believe but muay thai is something our homeland is so proud of so thank you a.b.i
It kinda sucks that RJ from battle for the grid never got showcased. I really liked how they combined muay Thai movements with his fireballs to create some really fluid animation
The algorithm blessed me with an episode from this series and I LOVE this. Hearing the history as well as how it is artfully incorporated into fictional media just tickles my pickle.
Muay Thai, I'm a big fan of it myself. although I'm out of practice in it. I've trained mainly under two different classes, and the video is definitely right about how differently it can be taught and individual styles. Being a tall guy myself I specialised in kicks and they can be absolutely devastating when you really put your body into them, there were some he didn't go over in the video like low kicks, which work less like a direct attack and more as a tool for weakening your opponents stance and tiring out their legs to make their kicks weaker and slower. a continuous supply of low kicks can end up completely disabling a fighter over time, so they're always important to think about. theres also step kicks, two of which that I learned work as variations to the low kick and the Theep (pushing kicks) outlined in the video [as a side note, my instructor at the second group went over often that the regular pushing kicks get more rare in ring sport, since you rarely want your opponent out of your attacking range and the step kick version is faster and does more damage] step kicks were a fast moving strike with the ball of the foot aimed low (just above the knee) or body (directly at the bladder) to interrupt opponents trying to approach and stagger them. giving you the opportunity to move in to strike. The other big thing we did get a mention in the video about Muay Thai but no in depth (mostly because we dont get it in fighting games at all) is thai grappling, Fighters who specialise in it can end fights really quickly as they become inescapable. just imagining a Muay Thai Grappler in a fighting game makes me feel terrified of those locked in knees and elbows I'm also glad the Rammuay and the cultural side of the art does get some airtime in fighting games.
You're a tall guy. Just practice Khao; clinch and knee your opponents! I am trying Muay Mat: lots of hands with devastating low kicks. Similar to Dutch kickboxing in many ways. 🙏🏼
@@Sevensliders if I got good at clinching now it probably would be very effective with my long grab range. But back when I was learning in my teenage years, I was still a tall guy back then, but reed thin. back then I really didn't have the power to last long close range, so I got good with low and front kicks to disrupt attacks on me, and Roundhouse kicks as my best way of landing hits. When I was feeling especially cheeky I'd do a roundhouse kick slower to bait them into going for a catch and throw a barrage of punches when they only had one free hand.
@@ANewKindOfGamer Vampire/Long guard is such a great strategy for fighters like you who have a long reach; you can pretty much strike at a prolonged distance and teeps are and will be your greatest weapon as well with range. 🙏🏼
As a Thai person I can confidently say that I like this video! Also the pronunciation is good enough for thai people to understand and I know how hard that can be to pull off so good job! I really enjoy the video!
It is probably fair to say if Karate is usually seen as the “most recognized fighting style in fighting games,” Muay Thai is probably right behind it. There’s something special about watching Muay Thai in action as it feels like every strike done is calculated to be as devastating as possible. Yeah, getting punched or kicked will hurt, but the elbows and knees can be particularly brutal as well. That and (as what was pointed out) it is amazing to see how wide the spectrum is for those who use it and how if you tossed all of them into a fight together, they would all have their own special way of utilizing it in a fight.
They're definitely the two styles most guaranteed to be represented in Fighting Games. I can't wait to see ABI cover Karate. Since there's so many different styles of Karate it will be interesting to see how he covers them.
@@IrishKyokushin I'd really like to see some kyokushin, samba, and even if it isn't great by itself I think taido weather it be by itself or mixed with a capoeria fighter would be nice to see and fun to use
Great video!! You seriously make some of the most intresting fighting game content on youtube, i didnt even realise that sagat's style was a real thing and i loved hearing all about the history and culture behind it, incredibly engaging stuff
One character that clued me into Muay Thai or Thai boxing was PD-4 from The Bouncer. You can play as them in the VS and survival mode of the game. They weren't as strong as some of the other characters but they had longer range due to an extendable arm, a few unblockable attacks and speed on their side. But I don't think they have clinching or grapples, they do use their knees and elbows though in their combos. PD-4's version of Muay Thai is pretty much exclusively a striking art.
Hot take: the only reason Fahkumram looks like this is only because they probably had Sagat model ready for Tekken X Street Fighter but Bamco saw SFxT flop so they decided to drop that project and reuse/update the model If anything, they should've created modern Muay Thai fighter based on someone like Buakaw Banchamek: small tight fighter (5'8 158lb) that is able to hit like a truck
This was the one really WEIRD thing that stood out to me about his design. Not the Baki inspiration or tattooes, but his sheer height and muscle mass. If you know what Muay Thai fighters from Thailand actually look like, it's kinda've absurd. I still like Fahkumram's design but it is undeniably farfetched.
I like how you put a Clip of Saw Paing from Kengan, a character who doesn’t actually perform Muay Thai, he performs the ancient art of Burmese Boxing or Lethwei.
You forget to mention the various Muay Thai styles. Muay mat (puncher) muay sok, (elbow fighter) muay Khao, (knee and clinch fighter), muay dtae (kicker), and muay femur (the technician). While like you said there’s many expressions of the art, most Thais fight pretty similarly due to the scoring system in Thailand, a narrow stance with a methodical pace of footwork, exchanging kicks and not really moving around very much. Commonly underutilized hands as clinch scores for higher in Thailand than in the west or under kickboxing rules.
I love these videos! They're always so informative and just downright interesting! I honestly don't care which style gets the win most of the time, I'm just happy to see a new one.
As someone who has trained in muay thai for about 10ish years (in the west) and has been a long time viewer of your videos I was waiting to see muay thai come up in style select and it was worth the wait. Great video as always.
Muay Thai is fast and powerful, I feel like this isn't entirely incorporated in Muay Thai characters. My biggest gripe is the lack of clinch, they should be a close range grappler/striker hybrid with no projectiles.
Dude, you always make amazing content. I love the Panic At The Dojo video and want so, so much more about that system. Love me some Muay Thai, though, and, like some have mentioned the clinch and intercepting Sweeps are sorely missing from vidyagames! Keep it up! 🍻
One of my favorite martial arts. I like it for it's elbow and knee strikes. The anime character shown at 1:30 & 4:34 is Saw Paing from Kengan Ashura who uses NOT Muay Thai, but Lethwei. Lethwei is similar Muay Thai but with two major differences: the sport is practiced BAREKNUCKLE with only tape and gauze & HEADBUTTS are allowed.
Sagat made me want to learn Muay Thai so badly, and I still am trying to. Hopefully I’ll be able to do some classes soon. Currently doing sport wrestling though, been fun so far.
muay thai’s striking is represented amazingly in fighting games, but it’s a shame how the clinch is usually just reduced to a universal throw animation, considering the clinch is so important to MT that fighters will spend hours everyday just training it nonstop. my idea of how it might work apart from just being a command grab is sort of like a mixup grab where the opponent has to choose the right options, much like marduk’s ground tackle or king/armor king’s chain throw 50/50s. the options for the clinch could be like sweep, elbow, knee or toss (maybe remove one because a 4 way mixup off that sounds like too much). clinch almost works like muay thai’s very own RPS situation (obviously with more options than rock paper or scissors lol, and it’s more based on timing and stability), and it’s a shame that a central part of the sport that has such an in-depth meta and potential for cool mechanics is reduced to what’s basically just a cool looking universal throw.
Bruce Irvin is the only character that has a clinch move that goes further in depth. Don't remember thr buttons for it, but you can use it to whip your opponent around. Or go for a knee.
There is one fighting game that has clinching but while it's not a traditional fighting game, more of a 3d arena kind of brawler derived from wrestling games of the N64 era, it does feature clinching albeit in a more streamlined way The game is "Def Jam: Fight for New York" and the clinching is present in characters with "Kickboxing" as their fighting styles
I was actually going to suggest a fighting style I can really only call "I am a god", but I really didn't think that constituted a fighting style... but seeing the selections at the end of the video I think we're covering something like that no matter which one wins. M.Bison (As of SF5), Magneto, Mewtwo, Zamasu, Beerus... They always have that "floating off the ground, chest out, arms crossed or down at their sides dramatically, a mix of complete dismissal of their opponents or utter dominance using supernatural powers". Only problem I have with the idea is primarily that... there's not much of substance to say, at least not enough to fill a 5+ minute video.
@@notproductiveproductions3504 Eh.... while some characters with this "style" are magical, most aren't. This is more of a specific personality trope in fighting games than it is a fighting style. (Hell, there isn't a single character on the examples I gave that are magicians in any way. It's mostly mutants, psychics and ki-users.)
I was expecting one of the public poll but this is fine too I remember seeing sagat for the first time while playing street fighter alpha with my lil cousin. Got i loved his high and medium kicks. I would just stand there waiting for his ken to jump so i could swat him away with a kick
It’s weird that none of the Muay Thai fighters in fighting games ever use teeps. Teeps are a huge part of Muay Thai for both offense and defense. And honestly they should be the best “button” or ranged standing attack in fighting games.
@@KingNerdius Well, in all fairness the very first episode of Style Select was all about guns, so from the very outset by no means was the show limited to real martial arts styles.
My only issue with muay thai in fighting games is that despite being one of the most popular martial arts in the genre, the number of practitioners that are actually Siamese are very, very few. For the next style select im interested to see the analysis on robots. To me they tend to feel really generic; uptight stance, straightforward punches and kicks, and beams. There are outliers obviously, but for the most part thats about it. It supposed to convey them being physically superior than normal humans and doing attacks in the most straightforward and efficient way which makes sense, but it invariably makes them infinitely less interesting as a fighting style compared to characters that uses actual combat techniques.
There are a lot of East Asian fighting styles that have been put to the test in sport MMA. And, beyond sport. And, more. Of the striking styles, Muy Thai has proven itself again and again. No excuses, no jokes, no "ifs, ands, or buts". Muy Thai is simply strong.
As a Thai dude my review of your pronunciation of Thai language like one of those Muay Thai teacher told to the new trainee "You lack technique but you got the heart".
As a Thai people I appreciate your pronounciation in many Thai words &precise muay Thai history detail in this clip. The pronouciation may not be 100% accurate but it's way better than a lot people I that know^^
Can you do a video about FMA (Filipino Martial Arts)? It's a really small in the fighting game scene but interesting fighting style that it should be in more games.
Muay Thai is a martial art developed by War veteran monks who combined that styke of Muay Boran and Krabi Krabong. Muay Boran is a style that used forearm and elbows to cage their face. Krabi Krabong is a wide tiger stance . Monks closed the stance more and opened up the face more but still allowing blocks with elbows. It was known as durian style because punching an elbow hurts like punching a spiky durian.
@SugarPunch who is the best Muay Thai fighter in video games? Sagat - Thailand🇹🇭 Adon - Thailand🇹🇭 Fahkumram - Thailand🇹🇭 Hwa Jai - Thailand🇹🇭 Payak Sitipitak - Thailand🇹🇭 Joe Higashi - Japan🇯🇵 Bruce Irvin - U.S.A🇺🇸 King - France🇫🇷 Brad Burns - Italy🇮🇹 Zack - U.S.A🇺🇸
Damn! I knew I was gonna be surprised with Muy Thai’s history! Those opening quotes hit hard! As for the next Fighting Style! I’m Seriously Interested in both Magic & Monsters! Magic because be insanely Multifaceted and esoteric. While Monsters can be both Beautiful, Wild, & Disturbing! :D
Man, I don't think I've ever heard of a muay thai fighter who wasn't serious. I've seen/met/watched boxers, karateka, wrestlers, taekwondo users, judoka, and wushu practitioners, real and fictional, who were anywhere from unbeatable to buffoonish. I've never even imagined a thai fighter who was a joke.
i remember when i was learning karate my instructor had blatant disrespect for most other styles of martial arts but told me muay thai practitioners eat black belts for breakfast.
To paraphrase one of my favorite anime: Muay Thai differs from most martial arts in that it was developed for use in wartime. Most martial arts prohibit the use of elbows and knees, because if you use them wrong, you could kill someone. Muay Thai, on the other hand, focuses heavily on the use of elbow and knee strikes, because if you use them right, you could kill someone.
@ทักษะ รอดภัย The anime is "Kenichi: The Mightiest Disciple". It's probably the martial arts anime with the smallest amount of anime bullshit. That being said, it's still got a fair bit of anime bullshit later in the series.
Please make video about modern MMA in fighting games. Also in my opinion the best animation to end the ground and pound would be making the fighter do an escape if not knocked out rather than making the ground and pounder stops it's punching and gets back to standing.
My favorite Muay Thai fighter/character from fighting games are Jax from Mortal Kombat. Sure, it doesn't look like he uses that style in original 2D trilogy of games, but you can 100% see that he uses it in 3D era of MK games. In HD era, which is present era, he seems to be using a mix between different styles, including Muay Thai. Now, i'm not a martial artist or any kind of specialist in those things, but i love martial arts. Back in the school days, i even messed with different martial arts myself, learning from what i can see in movies, video games and other stuff. Me and one of my friends messed with it in school and after school, besides playing video games. And even now, when i'm 28 years old, i still love martial arts of any kind, and Muay Thai is one of them. Sure, i don't mess with martial arts anymore cause, i got too lazy for that AND i have other things to do in life, besides playing video games in my free time, but i still remember the basics that i learned by myself. All tho, i'm a good person and i never seek to fight anyone, cause i don't see the point why i should do it, but i know how to kick and punch properly, and i can even do JCVD's helicopter kick if needed. I remember that, back in school days i kick my friend one time with helicopter kick in the face because, i didn't see him coming to me at the point when i already jumped and started to spin. The end result was that, he had black eye and few missing teeths. It wasn't intentional, and i landed on my butt very hard because, he came to me too close, and thus pushed me out of my balance, when i kicked him, but i feel bad for that move. If i knew that he gonna come in to me to say something, i wouldn't do a thing. Well, at least he didn't got angry at me for doing that lol. And after what happened, we even laughed about it, and he said that it was a damn good kick. But again, i still feel bad for that moment. Sure, we don't talk for now because, after the school we both go separate ways, but i will never forget those days back from school. It was fun when we messed with what we can learn.
Monsters: Instinctual fighting style which is mostly brute strikes with little technique I assume Robot: Static movements trying to simulate the technique of fluent/flexible movement of fighting techniques. Magic: RANDOM BULLSHIT GO! And is this gonna be the October Halloween special? Looking forward to whichever wins cuz it's interesting to analyze either of these
As a thai person, you promised and delivered exactly what you said.
You put my entire language through a wood chipper.
My sympathies
XD
He sounds like he tried his best, and that's the important thing, I think. XD
@@canondmajor1488 honestly he did. It's not as bad as some people I've heard lmao.
Just cause im curious how do you pronounce the things here
Tonal languagues are insane.
That intro story tho. “Y’all are excellent warriors. Too bad your leader sucks. Anywho, enjoy a Burmese invasion.”
I kinda see it more like playing politics with them "It's not your fault we're in charge, you're all cool, your boss just sucked. We'll run things better."
Also, Nai Khanom Tom was given a selection of wives (two beautiful Burmese wives or money, he took the wives, money's easier to find) and his freedom.
@@3Rayfire So the guy was basically a badass martial arts gladiator?
@@XellosNi Actually he was a soldier. The Burmese king selected from enemy POWs for the exhibition.
WWI Austria-Hungary in a nutshell.
One more thing of note: since Muay Thai was more of a militaristic form of combat employed in deadly scenarios, it was always aimed at being lethal. The use of elbows and knees was not to defend, but to expressly kill your opponent, which makes it one of the only martial arts that was not created for self-defense, but for assassination.
yeah, kinda like how Krav Maga was developed with a focus on practicality and efficiency in real world scenarios like street fights (like teaching awareness of surroundings and any usable weapons you or your opponent may use and targeting weak points of the body which are forbidden in combat sports). For all the coolness of certain martial arts, usually there is a history to them and their movements would be linked to things like prayer, use in demonstrations, etc. Then there are those that are just designed to "kill that motherfucker before he kills you so stop doing a bunch of fancy flips"
An actual ansatsuken
There is an older form of Muay Thai that isn't Boran, or Muay Ayutthaya (and similar regional styles and so on) named Lerdrit. Think of it as like MT with battlefield application, hence more "dirtier" strikes that can cause immense pain.
Realistically, if you go back far enough, that's pretty much every martial art.
@@seanwilliams7655 Indeed, it has to be. The very phrase "Martial Art" in more plain language means, Art of War.
As a guy who trains in muay thai,
I hope they demonstrated more the clinch. It is one of the biggest aspects in thai fighting that makes it different from most striking martial arts. Once they get a hold of you, you will get kneed, elbowed, and most importantly, thrown
sanda has more throws focus
I remember getting chain-throwed to death by the Bruce CPU in Tekken 2.
I think a thing largely overlooked by games is the clinch. Grappling is a huge part of muay thai
its hard to incorporate in this style of fighting game, but I guess there are throws which are also in Muay Thai and come out of clinches. Id love a MMA influenced 3d fighting game that has clinching, mounting, etc. mechanics incorporated into classic 3d fundamentals to show off shit like Judo, BJJ, Muay Thai, Sambo, etc. to their fullest extent!
Bruce (Tekken) had a representation of this with his chain throws.
@@Yuujen Brad Burns from Virtua Fighter also has a clinch grab
Apparently, the Kickboxing style in Def Jam: Fight For New York incorporated this.
@@fruitylerlups530 ufc undisputed 3? Literally the best MMA game ever made.
Fun fact: Even though you use a lot of footage of saw paing from the anime kengan ashura, he does not practice muay thai but instead Lethwei, an albeit similar fighting style from myanmar where headbutts are allowed
It’s also even more deadly compared to Muay Thai.
One reason I like Leth wei.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that
I was gonna say this
Yeah, but the "God of War" Gaolong hasn't unveiled his his Muay Thai yet, only his Boxing.
But good news! Kengan Season 2 is coming out in 2023.
I would have like to see Annie from AoT since she does Muay Thai too.
I'm always pretty sad that none of the Muay Thai characters in any fighting games say make any of the fighting/spectating sounds you would hear at any gym in Thailand, and even in a lot of gyms in the west now. I've always thought fighters and their training partners watching them shouting stuff like "oowee" was both really cool and really funny.
Yoooo it ain't the same without the oowee
Adon is probably the most vocal example.
Isn't Oowee for said during training? It's not said during an actual fight, so the devs are correct.
when I was learning is was more like "OO-EESH!" or so, big load thing. My instructor said its useful for training yourself to properly breathe and push the full force of your muscles into your techniques
@@Kinos141 it is said during actual fights, but more so by corner men and the audience. Part of the reason they make those sounds is to emphasize when the fighter gets a good hit in so the judges notice. I still think it would be a nice nod to the culture surrounding Muay Thai for the sound to be included in a fighting game
I had no idea Muay Thai had such a "ritualistic" background too, kinda like Sumo. In my country the schools and practitioners I've run into all just treat it like a sport and nothing else. The entire cultural baggage was lost somewhere along the lines. The research and breakdown of these gotta be my favorite part of these videos, quick, thorough and to the point. Great series!
PS: Do you plan on doing a Swords/Samurai in the future? I can't wait to see characters like Nagoriyuki, Hakumen, Yoshimitsu get a turn at their "bringing a sword to a fist fight" style, lol.
Can’t forget Haohmaru. One of my first ever fighting game main lol Ryu and Scorpion being the other two
@@frankmendieta3857 Well... Haohmaru is kinda cheating as he's in a game _about_ samurais, lol. I was thinking about more about fighting games with some sword wielders instead of games that are centered specifically around weapon combat (e.g. SamSho, Soul Calibur, Bushido Blade)
technically yoshimitsu in a ninja
Ngl, explaining who yoshimitsu is and wtf his fighting style is would need to be an entire video in and of itself
Could also cover the rarely represented school of HEMA, maybe roll fencing into it as well. Altho fencing may need its own video, there's a lot to discuss.
The movie Kickboxer is what made me fall in love with Muay Thai and I'll usually try and learn to play a Muay Thai characters in fighting games.
I still remember Tong Po being introduced kicking a pillar
I am mixed with Thai but I honestly want to see Silat represented more in fighting games
Perfect rushdown style.
@@antonsimmons8519 fast punch combos mixed with the tiger swipes of harimau
I always saw a little bit of Silat in Krohnen from KOF hiding in his mainly cybernetic moveset, also Baraka uses it in some of the Mortal Kombat games
Nico in DOA uses Pencak Silat, but she also has uses electricity so I'd say she's not quite the most accurate 😅
@@ripamoramee14 so you were just saying "the tiger swipes of tiger"?
1:32 Saw Paing in Kengan Ashura is from Burma/Myanmar and uses Lethwei. Kaolan, his rival is a Muay Thai champ. Lethwei is similar to Muay Thai but they can use headbutts and no gloves in competitions.
I don't think it's a coincidence that Saw Paing is voiced by Nobuyuki Hiyama in Japanese, since he was Joe Higashi's voice in the Fatal Fury anime and then voiced the character from Fatal Fury 3 up to KOF XIII
They also have this terrible rule that a knockout doesn’t end the fight if the losing fighter gets woken up on time
Gaolan is a boxing champion who was previously a nak muay, but switched to boxing a long time ago. Let's keep it to that to avoid spoilers, eh?
How do you pronounce Lethwei?
Muay Thai characters are some of my favorites. King and Sagat are always ALWAYS one of my mains or a character I can grab and do well with in their respective games.
It took me a while for me to realise that you meant King from KoF.
As a thai and your subscriber im glad you did this about muay thai in here thailand is largely known for tours i believe but muay thai is something our homeland is so proud of so thank you a.b.i
I’m so glad this channel has reached 100k Subscribers, I remember subscribing back in 2013 man it’s been a journey
Just like in real life, how video game characters wield Muay Thai is very much reflective of their personality. Love the content!
It kinda sucks that RJ from battle for the grid never got showcased. I really liked how they combined muay Thai movements with his fireballs to create some really fluid animation
The algorithm blessed me with an episode from this series and I LOVE this. Hearing the history as well as how it is artfully incorporated into fictional media just tickles my pickle.
Muay Thai, I'm a big fan of it myself. although I'm out of practice in it. I've trained mainly under two different classes, and the video is definitely right about how differently it can be taught and individual styles.
Being a tall guy myself I specialised in kicks and they can be absolutely devastating when you really put your body into them, there were some he didn't go over in the video like low kicks, which work less like a direct attack and more as a tool for weakening your opponents stance and tiring out their legs to make their kicks weaker and slower. a continuous supply of low kicks can end up completely disabling a fighter over time, so they're always important to think about.
theres also step kicks, two of which that I learned work as variations to the low kick and the Theep (pushing kicks) outlined in the video [as a side note, my instructor at the second group went over often that the regular pushing kicks get more rare in ring sport, since you rarely want your opponent out of your attacking range and the step kick version is faster and does more damage]
step kicks were a fast moving strike with the ball of the foot aimed low (just above the knee) or body (directly at the bladder) to interrupt opponents trying to approach and stagger them. giving you the opportunity to move in to strike.
The other big thing we did get a mention in the video about Muay Thai but no in depth (mostly because we dont get it in fighting games at all) is thai grappling, Fighters who specialise in it can end fights really quickly as they become inescapable. just imagining a Muay Thai Grappler in a fighting game makes me feel terrified of those locked in knees and elbows
I'm also glad the Rammuay and the cultural side of the art does get some airtime in fighting games.
You're a tall guy. Just practice Khao; clinch and knee your opponents!
I am trying Muay Mat: lots of hands with devastating low kicks. Similar to Dutch kickboxing in many ways. 🙏🏼
@@Sevensliders if I got good at clinching now it probably would be very effective with my long grab range. But back when I was learning in my teenage years, I was still a tall guy back then, but reed thin.
back then I really didn't have the power to last long close range, so I got good with low and front kicks to disrupt attacks on me, and Roundhouse kicks as my best way of landing hits.
When I was feeling especially cheeky I'd do a roundhouse kick slower to bait them into going for a catch and throw a barrage of punches when they only had one free hand.
@@ANewKindOfGamer Vampire/Long guard is such a great strategy for fighters like you who have a long reach; you can pretty much strike at a prolonged distance and teeps are and will be your greatest weapon as well with range. 🙏🏼
Do you use the long guard?
One thing I will say, video game Muay Thai fighters had some of the most banger theme songs in any game soundtrack!
Zack from DOA is one of my favorite fighting game characters of all time; that's how I was introduced to Muay Thai.
OG,Funny(unlike most of rest muay thai that are serious),supportive, glasses
As a Thai person I can confidently say that I like this video! Also the pronunciation is good enough for thai people to understand and I know how hard that can be to pull off so good job! I really enjoy the video!
It is probably fair to say if Karate is usually seen as the “most recognized fighting style in fighting games,” Muay Thai is probably right behind it.
There’s something special about watching Muay Thai in action as it feels like every strike done is calculated to be as devastating as possible. Yeah, getting punched or kicked will hurt, but the elbows and knees can be particularly brutal as well. That and (as what was pointed out) it is amazing to see how wide the spectrum is for those who use it and how if you tossed all of them into a fight together, they would all have their own special way of utilizing it in a fight.
They're definitely the two styles most guaranteed to be represented in Fighting Games. I can't wait to see ABI cover Karate. Since there's so many different styles of Karate it will be interesting to see how he covers them.
Tae Keon Do is up there as well.
@@TheZeroDestroyer Definitely Tae Kwondo as well.
@@IrishKyokushin I'd really like to see some kyokushin, samba, and even if it isn't great by itself I think taido weather it be by itself or mixed with a capoeria fighter would be nice to see and fun to use
Great video!! You seriously make some of the most intresting fighting game content on youtube, i didnt even realise that sagat's style was a real thing and i loved hearing all about the history and culture behind it, incredibly engaging stuff
One character that clued me into Muay Thai or Thai boxing was PD-4 from The Bouncer. You can play as them in the VS and survival mode of the game. They weren't as strong as some of the other characters but they had longer range due to an extendable arm, a few unblockable attacks and speed on their side. But I don't think they have clinching or grapples, they do use their knees and elbows though in their combos. PD-4's version of Muay Thai is pretty much exclusively a striking art.
Hot take: the only reason Fahkumram looks like this is only because they probably had Sagat model ready for Tekken X Street Fighter but Bamco saw SFxT flop so they decided to drop that project and reuse/update the model
If anything, they should've created modern Muay Thai fighter based on someone like Buakaw Banchamek: small tight fighter (5'8 158lb) that is able to hit like a truck
This was the one really WEIRD thing that stood out to me about his design. Not the Baki inspiration or tattooes, but his sheer height and muscle mass.
If you know what Muay Thai fighters from Thailand actually look like, it's kinda've absurd.
I still like Fahkumram's design but it is undeniably farfetched.
Oh you rework Bruce????
I hope Tekken x Street fighter get made (despite being highly unlikely)
I like how you put a Clip of Saw Paing from Kengan, a character who doesn’t actually perform Muay Thai, he performs the ancient art of Burmese Boxing or Lethwei.
You forget to mention the various Muay Thai styles.
Muay mat (puncher) muay sok, (elbow fighter) muay Khao, (knee and clinch fighter), muay dtae (kicker), and muay femur (the technician). While like you said there’s many expressions of the art, most Thais fight pretty similarly due to the scoring system in Thailand, a narrow stance with a methodical pace of footwork, exchanging kicks and not really moving around very much. Commonly underutilized hands as clinch scores for higher in Thailand than in the west or under kickboxing rules.
I love these videos! They're always so informative and just downright interesting! I honestly don't care which style gets the win most of the time, I'm just happy to see a new one.
As someone who has trained in muay thai for about 10ish years (in the west) and has been a long time viewer of your videos I was waiting to see muay thai come up in style select and it was worth the wait. Great video as always.
I know it’s been done to death but I believe a “karate” episode would be knocked out the park by you guys
Muay Thai is fast and powerful, I feel like this isn't entirely incorporated in Muay Thai characters. My biggest gripe is the lack of clinch, they should be a close range grappler/striker hybrid with no projectiles.
Dude, you always make amazing content. I love the Panic At The Dojo video and want so, so much more about that system. Love me some Muay Thai, though, and, like some have mentioned the clinch and intercepting Sweeps are sorely missing from vidyagames! Keep it up! 🍻
One of my favorite martial arts. I like it for it's elbow and knee strikes. The anime character shown at 1:30 & 4:34 is Saw Paing from Kengan Ashura who uses NOT Muay Thai, but Lethwei. Lethwei is similar Muay Thai but with two major differences: the sport is practiced BAREKNUCKLE with only tape and gauze & HEADBUTTS are allowed.
Sagat made me want to learn Muay Thai so badly, and I still am trying to. Hopefully I’ll be able to do some classes soon.
Currently doing sport wrestling though, been fun so far.
muay thai’s striking is represented amazingly in fighting games, but it’s a shame how the clinch is usually just reduced to a universal throw animation, considering the clinch is so important to MT that fighters will spend hours everyday just training it nonstop.
my idea of how it might work apart from just being a command grab is sort of like a mixup grab where the opponent has to choose the right options, much like marduk’s ground tackle or king/armor king’s chain throw 50/50s. the options for the clinch could be like sweep, elbow, knee or toss (maybe remove one because a 4 way mixup off that sounds like too much).
clinch almost works like muay thai’s very own RPS situation (obviously with more options than rock paper or scissors lol, and it’s more based on timing and stability), and it’s a shame that a central part of the sport that has such an in-depth meta and potential for cool mechanics is reduced to what’s basically just a cool looking universal throw.
Bruce Irvin is the only character that has a clinch move that goes further in depth. Don't remember thr buttons for it, but you can use it to whip your opponent around. Or go for a knee.
@@cynicalnitro8416 NO WAY REALLY??? man i need to go download a tekken 5 emulator and revisit that game, i wanna play him now
@@theoneknownasbam try tekken 6. I believe THAT was the one where I went down his whole command list.
There is one fighting game that has clinching but while it's not a traditional fighting game, more of a 3d arena kind of brawler derived from wrestling games of the N64 era, it does feature clinching albeit in a more streamlined way
The game is "Def Jam: Fight for New York" and the clinching is present in characters with "Kickboxing" as their fighting styles
I was actually going to suggest a fighting style I can really only call "I am a god", but I really didn't think that constituted a fighting style... but seeing the selections at the end of the video I think we're covering something like that no matter which one wins. M.Bison (As of SF5), Magneto, Mewtwo, Zamasu, Beerus... They always have that "floating off the ground, chest out, arms crossed or down at their sides dramatically, a mix of complete dismissal of their opponents or utter dominance using supernatural powers". Only problem I have with the idea is primarily that... there's not much of substance to say, at least not enough to fill a 5+ minute video.
Magic
@@notproductiveproductions3504 Eh.... while some characters with this "style" are magical, most aren't. This is more of a specific personality trope in fighting games than it is a fighting style. (Hell, there isn't a single character on the examples I gave that are magicians in any way. It's mostly mutants, psychics and ki-users.)
I was expecting one of the public poll but this is fine too
I remember seeing sagat for the first time while playing street fighter alpha with my lil cousin. Got i loved his high and medium kicks. I would just stand there waiting for his ken to jump so i could swat him away with a kick
Ah yes, the objectively coolest practical fighting style.
Happy that I discovered this series! Thanks for the awesome video.
It’s weird that none of the Muay Thai fighters in fighting games ever use teeps. Teeps are a huge part of Muay Thai for both offense and defense. And honestly they should be the best “button” or ranged standing attack in fighting games.
I'd love to see ninjistu in a next video.
Select your fighting style.
Monster. Robot. Magic
So more like fighting archetype than style now
Justice: "Why not all three?"
ya, I don't see how fictional based powersets can be in a series all about real martial arts
@@KingNerdius Well, in all fairness the very first episode of Style Select was all about guns, so from the very outset by no means was the show limited to real martial arts styles.
@@ArmoredGriffon Combat Shooting is a martial art though
As a lover of Muay Thai and fighting games, I really dislike how there aren't more videos like this.
I recognize that music at the beginning...Indivisible! 😭
Alright, sure, it was written on the top left corner, but still.
The Indivisible bgm in the intro is nostalgic
Muay Thai is probably 1 of my all time fav fighting styles! :)
bless you for tossing in that brief clip of live a live footage
I admired and I respect Muay Thai a lot.
My only issue with muay thai in fighting games is that despite being one of the most popular martial arts in the genre, the number of practitioners that are actually Siamese are very, very few.
For the next style select im interested to see the analysis on robots. To me they tend to feel really generic; uptight stance, straightforward punches and kicks, and beams. There are outliers obviously, but for the most part thats about it. It supposed to convey them being physically superior than normal humans and doing attacks in the most straightforward and efficient way which makes sense, but it invariably makes them infinitely less interesting as a fighting style compared to characters that uses actual combat techniques.
love this video series. would love to see more bizzare fighting styles in the next video!
Oh we're gonna have some Hallowen fun next episode
There are a lot of East Asian fighting styles that have been put to the test in sport MMA. And, beyond sport. And, more.
Of the striking styles, Muy Thai has proven itself again and again. No excuses, no jokes, no "ifs, ands, or buts".
Muy Thai is simply strong.
Honestly of all the martial arts in the real world I’d love to learn, Muay Thai is hands down the top of the list!
That intro was such a hook !
Great job : )
As a Thai dude my review of your pronunciation of Thai language like one of those Muay Thai teacher told to the new trainee "You lack technique but you got the heart".
As a Thai, the frist minute and a half was so hurtful history.
Thanks for the vdo give it up.
Imagine that After your country is Lost to the invaders one Man can Beat up the king's army so much that the king declared the impressive feat
My nephew is learning this right now. No sparring yet though because, as I understand, it's easy for kids to really damage each other.
Fun Fact - it's common for kids to fight in Muay Thai. Some starts professionally as early as 8-9
Magic would be amazing for Halloween
As a guy that lives in a country next to Thailand, I approve your pronunciation
Wake up, babe. New Style Select dropped
As a Thai people
I appreciate your pronounciation in
many Thai words &precise muay Thai history detail in this clip.
The pronouciation
may not be 100% accurate
but it's way better than a lot
people I that know^^
Can you do a video about FMA (Filipino Martial Arts)?
It's a really small in the fighting game scene but interesting fighting style that it should be in more games.
This was a great video. I want to see boxing in fighting games.
I can not wait until you cover ninjutsu in a video
Muay Thai is a martial art developed by War veteran monks who combined that styke of Muay Boran and Krabi Krabong. Muay Boran is a style that used forearm and elbows to cage their face. Krabi Krabong is a wide tiger stance . Monks closed the stance more and opened up the face more but still allowing blocks with elbows. It was known as durian style because punching an elbow hurts like punching a spiky durian.
@SugarPunch who is the best Muay Thai fighter in video games?
Sagat - Thailand🇹🇭
Adon - Thailand🇹🇭
Fahkumram - Thailand🇹🇭
Hwa Jai - Thailand🇹🇭
Payak Sitipitak - Thailand🇹🇭
Joe Higashi - Japan🇯🇵
Bruce Irvin - U.S.A🇺🇸
King - France🇫🇷
Brad Burns - Italy🇮🇹
Zack - U.S.A🇺🇸
Damn! I knew I was gonna be surprised with Muy Thai’s history! Those opening quotes hit hard!
As for the next Fighting Style! I’m Seriously Interested in both Magic & Monsters!
Magic because be insanely Multifaceted and esoteric. While Monsters can be both Beautiful, Wild, & Disturbing! :D
I absolutely like Martial arts they are very unique fighting styles with unlike other basic fighting moves they do extra combos.
this is so cool, i didn't know about this art at all
Instructions unclear, started playing karate-based characters
As a kid I was liked that film with Mark dacascos(iron chef) “only the strong” haha jenga man jenga
I love the mention of Muay Thai's sub set's. I love Zack's Wild Muay Thai Style.
Or as I like to call it. MUAY FLY.
Also. Robot's next please!
You showed Saw Paing who is a Lethwei fighter. That had me thinking of Lethwei’s lack of representation in media in general.
as a Thai guy myself, I have to say your Thai language is very good!
watching this is enough to make you "Bangkok ready"
Man, I don't think I've ever heard of a muay thai fighter who wasn't serious. I've seen/met/watched boxers, karateka, wrestlers, taekwondo users, judoka, and wushu practitioners, real and fictional, who were anywhere from unbeatable to buffoonish. I've never even imagined a thai fighter who was a joke.
This is awsome, I would love a Kyokushin episode.
i remember when i was learning karate my instructor had blatant disrespect for most other styles of martial arts but told me muay thai practitioners eat black belts for breakfast.
Indivisible has such a good soundtrack, nice pick 🎶
The Kengan Ashura scene is actually Lethwei😅
Fahkumram was shown prominently in the video but never mentioned by name once. I think I know why 😂
I’m bigger on martial arts than fighting games and me and my friends always joke about how crazy powerful Muay Thai fighters are just
i was not expecting joes clown honks from fatal fury special, but looking back i really should have
So glad you did this video!!
To paraphrase one of my favorite anime:
Muay Thai differs from most martial arts in that it was developed for use in wartime. Most martial arts prohibit the use of elbows and knees, because if you use them wrong, you could kill someone. Muay Thai, on the other hand, focuses heavily on the use of elbow and knee strikes, because if you use them right, you could kill someone.
@ทักษะ รอดภัย The anime is "Kenichi: The Mightiest Disciple". It's probably the martial arts anime with the smallest amount of anime bullshit. That being said, it's still got a fair bit of anime bullshit later in the series.
Shout out to my man Apachai Hopachai!
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Not sure how much you read through the older videos, but this video seems to be missing from the style select playlist!
I like the Halloween themed fighting styles for the next one.
I believe that the Kengan Ashura clip displays Myanmar Lethwei actually
The first Ong Bak movie is still legit
Please make video about modern MMA in fighting games. Also in my opinion the best animation to end the ground and pound would be making the fighter do an escape if not knocked out rather than making the ground and pounder stops it's punching and gets back to standing.
This is a cool idea for a series
My favorite Muay Thai fighter/character from fighting games are Jax from Mortal Kombat. Sure, it doesn't look like he uses that style in original 2D trilogy of games, but you can 100% see that he uses it in 3D era of MK games. In HD era, which is present era, he seems to be using a mix between different styles, including Muay Thai. Now, i'm not a martial artist or any kind of specialist in those things, but i love martial arts.
Back in the school days, i even messed with different martial arts myself, learning from what i can see in movies, video games and other stuff. Me and one of my friends messed with it in school and after school, besides playing video games. And even now, when i'm 28 years old, i still love martial arts of any kind, and Muay Thai is one of them. Sure, i don't mess with martial arts anymore cause, i got too lazy for that AND i have other things to do in life, besides playing video games in my free time, but i still remember the basics that i learned by myself. All tho, i'm a good person and i never seek to fight anyone, cause i don't see the point why i should do it, but i know how to kick and punch properly, and i can even do JCVD's helicopter kick if needed.
I remember that, back in school days i kick my friend one time with helicopter kick in the face because, i didn't see him coming to me at the point when i already jumped and started to spin. The end result was that, he had black eye and few missing teeths. It wasn't intentional, and i landed on my butt very hard because, he came to me too close, and thus pushed me out of my balance, when i kicked him, but i feel bad for that move. If i knew that he gonna come in to me to say something, i wouldn't do a thing. Well, at least he didn't got angry at me for doing that lol. And after what happened, we even laughed about it, and he said that it was a damn good kick. But again, i still feel bad for that moment. Sure, we don't talk for now because, after the school we both go separate ways, but i will never forget those days back from school. It was fun when we messed with what we can learn.
Someday Silat will have a shot in fighting game
Monsters: Instinctual fighting style which is mostly brute strikes with little technique I assume
Robot: Static movements trying to simulate the technique of fluent/flexible movement of fighting techniques.
Magic: RANDOM BULLSHIT GO!
And is this gonna be the October Halloween special? Looking forward to whichever wins cuz it's interesting to analyze either of these
SugarPunch can you just do all three next!
Muay Thai fighters scare me in fighting games and in real life now.
YO! what about Hwa Jai from KOF? LOVE YOUR SERIES!
Welcome back Sugar punch! Im liking this new segment!
What are the odds of a jew Symphogear as well?
Robo-Fortune, Alisa Bosconovitch, Jack, 2B, Robo-Ky, and Seth (qualifies?) all say "vote Robot!"