I love the 'old' Breitling winged logo that's on the 38mm Colt Ocean (circa 2000): SuperQuartz certified chronometer; 8-year battery; 500m WR w/heat seal technology (yes, you can wear it in the hot tub or shower); sapphire crystal w/AR Coatings and Super Luminova hands/markers. For 9 bills from an authorized dealer clearly one of the best watch values I've ever owned! But then I'm old school ...
The old logo had wings AND an anchor, and one could argue the B is reminiscent of the Bentley B. Land see and Air right there. If you have aero specific model lines like the aerospace and avenger, the wings suit them so much better
Thanks guys!! This was a good one. Always high quality production and presentation. Breitling is going places. Let’s hope enough of us get on the ride💪
Went and tried the 44mm night mission tonight and it wore so much smaller and better than the prior night mission. The 3mm lesser lug to lug and smaller 1mm case size and 2mm smaller in thickness vs last years night mission 45mm made a huge difference on the wrist. My only feeling is at over $9k I can’t help to feel Breitling out priced themselves with an Avenger. Even with the BO1 movement should an Avenger be over $9k and the same price as a Navitimer I don’t think so. But that’s just my opinion. It’s an extremely nice looking watch and a huge improvement to last years Avenger.
Just tried on the Avenger yesterday. The movement and rotor are more decorated than the Chronomat. The Bezel feels almost identical to my submariner 116610. Less shiny and more brushed. The watch looks and feels phenomenal! it is large but fits just right on my 6 3/4 inch wrist. Love the manly bold design, it is more compact than expected. Definitely HUGE improvement over last gen. I encourage anyone to always try the watch and do no be mislead by watch reviewers who have not even tried the watch on or simply go by their opinion. Overall the Avenger feels and looks much more refined than the Chronomat with the polished bezel, also the bezel action is sooo much better!
Interesting you bring up the sub comparison. I think an Avenger with the b01 in it actually puts the sub In its place now. Rolex have a lot to think about.
@@philc1773 The bezel action feels so much better than the Chronomat. I tried them both back to back. More crisp and solid, closest I have felt to my sub. Just waiting about a year to buy it either gray market or used at a discount 🫢
Great video Andrew. I have always been a Breitling fan. I had a SO Special a couple of years back.These new releases look great, but what kind of pulls me away from the brand is the pricing. The movement's are good, but not great and the power reserve has always been on the lower end compared to other brands. If I was going to spend between 5-7k on a watch it would be hard not to look at Omega or Tudor first. Breitling has definitely come a long way, but there are better options in this price range IMO.
Very nice. I had an Avenger Skyland about 15 years ago as my first real watch. It was as a beast. Sadly let it go as was too heavy and bulky but really like these new models. Will definitely be taking a look 🫡
Great video, thank you for sharing. The watches? Well, to my taste prefer the old pushers, the wings n anchor logo, and the colors while young and fresh, don't look tactical. I think they're wonderful, just not a fan of every change.
Removal of winged logo from aviation-related models is "...eh, wtf?" for me. Prices went south. The whole range is diluted by some irrelevant car-inspired (Breitling? Cars, other than Bentley?) or dress watches. Well, I'm not a Georges Kern, he knows better for sure, but for silly fan like me, Breitling loses their identity. I'm considering buying old Night Mission now, I'm fine with old Valjoux 7750 based movement. This "in-house" craze is a poor excuse to drive the prices up that high.
These new Avengers are great and IMO a significant step forward in terms of overall package. B01 movement, nice quick adjust clasp, refined dimensions...all great things. Having said that, I was fond of the wings and wish they would have retained that logo. Nonetheless, I think these are winners. Now they just need to get the B70 ironed out and bring back the Aerospace. Then they'll really be cooking. 😄
What is the name of the CEO ? 🤣 Not sure to like those new avengers. But need to see the them in person, cause i used to like the old one a lot but find the 43mm a bit large! Please M. kern, give us a 3 hand, 42 night mission, on rubber !
Chronos quite thick and too much $ for time only and GMT for ETA mvmt. Not knocking ETA but for $5K+ too much competition out there. Should have kept GMT at 42. Love the channel and AET!! 🎉🎉
Breitling, to me, has become more appealing to the mass market. Some breitling “enthusiasts” might jot be thrilled with the changes but it sure has made me add 3 variations of the b01 to my collection in 2023.
It was good to see these on video, thanks. I did get to see quite a few of them in person at my local Breitling boutique. These feel a bit more older Breitling to me, which means it doesn't drum up my interest all that much. I'm a fan of steel bezels and own an Explorer II, love models like the Speedy '57, etc. These just aren't doing it for me though. It just feels a bit too early 2000s for me. If you ask my teen, she'd happily tell you Y2K fashion and such is popular, but there probably aren't many kids being Breitling Avengers. I don't think they're bad, but just not for me. My only proper complaint is a caller GMT at those prices is patently ridiculous. Between Swatch group's flyer GMTs at affordable prices, the Miyota 9075, Tudor, and even high end micros at 1/4 the price for the same movement, it's an insult. On the other hand, the B01 movement in the chronographs is a welcome thing. I think we should get the 56hr SW300 based movements in the 3 handers as well. Even TAG Heuer started to rectify that with their 36mm Carreras offering a bit higher end movement than the slightly older 39mm 3 hand Carreras. There's a new bar and manufacturers need to get on board with reality.
Nope. But if your watching on your phone. RUclips often defaults to a very low resolution to save bandwidth. If you change your quality settings. You will see it in all its 4K glory. Hope that helps.
These models should have the wings on it. Not saying all breitlings have to have the wings but these models they messed them up because they don't have the wings on them. I don't like them without the wings on it. I was a huge breitling fan.
Just curious, anyone know why their movements are at 38 hours. I know the b01 is at 70 but that’s the chronograph why is their entry models with the little power reserves and big cases. It’s abit like even if you wanna get 1 you have to think twice. If it was 50 or even 60 hours maybe be different. But yeah just odd.
Easy answer, their 3-hand movements are essentially COSC-grade ETA 2824. They sell some 3-hand models with Tudor movement but that one is thicker and it would compromise the design of the watch. Breitling desperately needs their own 3-hand movement with bigger power reserve.
The pilot watches, air part of the collection. Should have the wing logo on. Not the best move to remove them. The in-house movement is not worth paying the price. I'll stick to the older models.
I like Breitling’s makeover. I just don’t particularly like their watch designs. I’ll never buy another watch with AR coatings on the top of the crystal, after my Planet Ocean scraped on some metal and made a mess of the AR coating. This limits me to Rolex, Tudor and a bunch of microbrands. Every time I see that Breitling blue AR in the video I wince. BTW “George Kern” was mentioned six times in this video.
I have managed an Omega AD and currently manage a Breitling AD. I have a Planet Ocean chrono and I’ve had a few other POs in the past. My favourite Omega line hands down. I have also owned more than a few Breitlings and currently have a couple. I can safely say that the Omega AR coating has driven me crazy and has cost me a lot of money in redundant crystal replacements, and it indeed feels easy to scratch. My current PO has a grey matt dial so it doesnt show much at least. I can confirm however that Breitling’s AR somehow does not have these issues. Don’t ask me why, I just never experienced the same easy scratch issues with their AR and I wear and treat then the same as the Omegas.
Definitely love the direction Breitling are taking, however, they are still chunky monkeys. They need to work on the thickness of pretty much all their models
@colingill47 not thin enough...I have the super chronomat with the same b01, and it's only 13.6 even the premier line top at 14. I am sure it's possible to trim at least a good 1mm. Anyway...despite all these I think the black ceramic do look really good 👍
@@Timeandtidewatches thanks for the reply Andrew - I should’ve qualified my remarks better but I was pushed for time. I was referencing the aviation industry. There has been a marked move away from Breitling for Pilots, I am currently planning on a new work watch. My company (you would know which Aussie one I am talking about) even has in the past had custom Breitlings produced - but the last ‘options’ were not well received at all by crew. I appreciate that they have diversified and been successful, but if you look at their core aviation / Pilot references, it has become in my and other Pilots’ opinions very stale. I am more than happy to be proven wrong, as I have lusted after Breitlings for many years, but IWC and even Apple (unbelievably) have taken some of their market. Thanks again for replying, keep up the bloody excellent content. Huge fan here. Will have a look at the Breitling Regent St store in a few weeks when there next. Cheers mate 🍻
Boy George Kern is the only Magician in the Watch World of Wonders who is capable of selling quality concerned consumers POPCORN for the price of CAVIAR perfectly aimed at the LOOK AT ME GENERATION ! And sadly Eddy Schoepfer,the best Designer Breitling ever had was replaced by an industrial joker !!
The B01 movement was introduced in 2009 and has been in the avenger line previously. There is nothing new here, yet you harp on this false point multiple times. The case material and open case back are the two new things and you barely touch on them. Really a rather poor video.
I love the 'old' Breitling winged logo that's on the 38mm Colt Ocean (circa 2000): SuperQuartz certified chronometer; 8-year battery; 500m WR w/heat seal technology (yes, you can wear it in the hot tub or shower); sapphire crystal w/AR Coatings and Super Luminova hands/markers. For 9 bills from an authorized dealer clearly one of the best watch values I've ever owned! But then I'm old school ...
The old logo had wings AND an anchor, and one could argue the B is reminiscent of the Bentley B. Land see and Air right there. If you have aero specific model lines like the aerospace and avenger, the wings suit them so much better
Great point here in the anchor. He is factually incorrect a number of times in the video. Really rather unprofessional.
The green Avenger is stunning
Love the Avenger. It looks macho and wears great on wrist. Also built like a tank.
Not gonna lie, I miss the wing logo. Love the redesign, but the wing logo just feels right for the brand
Thanks guys!! This was a good one. Always high quality production and presentation. Breitling is going places. Let’s hope enough of us get on the ride💪
indeed
Appreciate that ! Andrew
The adjustable bracelet is a huge win. Can't wait to try one on, see how I like it.
very unexpected.... thought the brand was going down. but these new models look stunning. still looking forward to see more two tone pieces.
Went and tried the 44mm night mission tonight and it wore so much smaller and better than the prior night mission. The 3mm lesser lug to lug and smaller 1mm case size and 2mm smaller in thickness vs last years night mission 45mm made a huge difference on the wrist. My only feeling is at over $9k I can’t help to feel Breitling out priced themselves with an Avenger. Even with the BO1 movement should an Avenger be over $9k and the same price as a Navitimer I don’t think so. But that’s just my opinion. It’s an extremely nice looking watch and a huge improvement to last years Avenger.
Just tried on the Avenger yesterday. The movement and rotor are more decorated than the Chronomat.
The Bezel feels almost identical to my submariner 116610. Less shiny and more brushed. The watch looks and feels phenomenal! it is large but fits just right on my 6 3/4 inch wrist. Love the manly bold design, it is more compact than expected. Definitely
HUGE improvement over last gen.
I encourage anyone to always try the watch and do no be mislead by watch reviewers who have not even tried the watch on or simply go by their opinion.
Overall the Avenger feels and looks much more refined than the Chronomat with the polished bezel, also the bezel action is sooo much better!
Now that is some very welcome insight my friend. More of it. You are very welcome in the comments. Kablam
Interesting you bring up the sub comparison. I think an Avenger with the b01 in it actually puts the sub In its place now. Rolex have a lot to think about.
@@philc1773 The bezel action feels so much better than the Chronomat. I tried them both back to back. More crisp and solid, closest I have felt to my sub.
Just waiting about a year to buy it either gray market or used at a discount 🫢
Always a pleasure watching your videos.
It’s our pleasure to bring them to you. 🎉
The logo decision is a big mistake. Next CEO will bring back the wings! Nice collection by the way.
Nahhhhh I love that they lost the wings. They needed a change.
I love the wings. Went and bought a navitimer 43 - the last one the references with gold wings ❤
@@marcusflack1523I don't like the loss of wings on this model, but other models it's okay to have the b logo
I love this video and the style of this video. I wish you would do more
that is indeed the plan
Bang on the money with these models - time+tide always promote stuff well. Love the channel
Love our followers, thanks a lot 👊🏼
Bring back the wings and anchor.
Like Tag Heuer, Brietling never appealed to me before. Now with clear definition and exciting new products they really are beautiful watches
Great video Andrew. I have always been a Breitling fan. I had a SO Special a couple of years back.These new releases look great, but what kind of pulls me away from the brand is the pricing. The movement's are good, but not great and the power reserve has always been on the lower end compared to other brands. If I was going to spend between 5-7k on a watch it would be hard not to look at Omega or Tudor first. Breitling has definitely come a long way, but there are better options in this price range IMO.
Chronometer certification is no slouch, but Kern is continuing to push things on the movement front 🙌
Very nice. I had an Avenger Skyland about 15 years ago as my first real watch. It was as a beast. Sadly let it go as was too heavy and bulky but really like these new models. Will definitely be taking a look 🫡
Nice one. Which one do you like the most?
I’m drawn the green chronograph and love that dual colour strap 💚💛combo. However the stealth black ceramic dial one is pretty bad ass. 🖤🖤
Great video, thank you for sharing. The watches? Well, to my taste prefer the old pushers, the wings n anchor logo, and the colors while young and fresh, don't look tactical. I think they're wonderful, just not a fan of every change.
Removal of winged logo from aviation-related models is "...eh, wtf?" for me. Prices went south. The whole range is diluted by some irrelevant car-inspired (Breitling? Cars, other than Bentley?) or dress watches. Well, I'm not a Georges Kern, he knows better for sure, but for silly fan like me, Breitling loses their identity. I'm considering buying old Night Mission now, I'm fine with old Valjoux 7750 based movement. This "in-house" craze is a poor excuse to drive the prices up that high.
ABSOLUTELY TRUE !!
Truer words never been spoken. V17311 is where it's at for this type of watch.
And yet here they are, still selling cartloads. Maybe you should send them a letter, tell em what they’re doing wrong 😂
The Cearmic Version is stunning.
Night Mission is a heavy hitter
What about the Aerospace? The titanium quartz movement pilots watch? Its apparently being discontinued. Maybe also to given the Kern treatment?
KERN KILLED BREITLING !!
These new Avengers are great and IMO a significant step forward in terms of overall package. B01 movement, nice quick adjust clasp, refined dimensions...all great things. Having said that, I was fond of the wings and wish they would have retained that logo. Nonetheless, I think these are winners. Now they just need to get the B70 ironed out and bring back the Aerospace. Then they'll really be cooking. 😄
What is the name of the CEO ? 🤣
Not sure to like those new avengers. But need to see the them in person, cause i used to like the old one a lot but find the 43mm a bit large!
Please M. kern, give us a 3 hand, 42 night mission, on rubber !
Finally!, nice looking logo on my favorite Breitling collection. The anchor one was a mess.
The 'green' dial is khaki, no ?
It's the sand one for me - looks like it was made for the Aussie outback or beach.
Love your work! 🙏
Yes that sand color is awesome. Would be my pick as well.
There’s normal green and sage / khaki
Chronos quite thick and too much $ for time only and GMT for ETA mvmt. Not knocking ETA but for $5K+ too much competition out there. Should have kept GMT at 42. Love the channel and AET!! 🎉🎉
Blancpain desperately need a Breitling style makeover to maken them feel fresh and new again!
wholeheartedly agree with you on that one
Interesting point 🤔
Breitling, to me, has become more appealing to the mass market. Some breitling “enthusiasts” might jot be thrilled with the changes but it sure has made me add 3 variations of the b01 to my collection in 2023.
Is that a 24 click or a 48 click Bezel on that GMT 44 (The one showing unto 24 hrs on the bezel)?
Would be awesome if they made the night missions in 42mm
40 - 42 mm chronograph plz.
300 atm and leather bracelet?
Where can I get that Breitling Jacket?
I got it at the Breitling Boutique - A
@@Timeandtidewatches Thanks!
do these hold they’re value
The black Avenger watch thats my favorite
It was good to see these on video, thanks. I did get to see quite a few of them in person at my local Breitling boutique. These feel a bit more older Breitling to me, which means it doesn't drum up my interest all that much. I'm a fan of steel bezels and own an Explorer II, love models like the Speedy '57, etc. These just aren't doing it for me though. It just feels a bit too early 2000s for me. If you ask my teen, she'd happily tell you Y2K fashion and such is popular, but there probably aren't many kids being Breitling Avengers. I don't think they're bad, but just not for me.
My only proper complaint is a caller GMT at those prices is patently ridiculous. Between Swatch group's flyer GMTs at affordable prices, the Miyota 9075, Tudor, and even high end micros at 1/4 the price for the same movement, it's an insult. On the other hand, the B01 movement in the chronographs is a welcome thing. I think we should get the 56hr SW300 based movements in the 3 handers as well. Even TAG Heuer started to rectify that with their 36mm Carreras offering a bit higher end movement than the slightly older 39mm 3 hand Carreras. There's a new bar and manufacturers need to get on board with reality.
Mate, that is some very thoughtful feedback. Thanks heaps for sharing. You make some very interresting observations.
Breitling is working on in house movements but totally agree, the non flyer gmt feels utterly expensive for the movement.
Are your info cards out of focus?
Nope. But if your watching on your phone. RUclips often defaults to a very low resolution to save bandwidth. If you change your quality settings. You will see it in all its 4K glory. Hope that helps.
@@marcusflack1523 I was watching it on an ipad!
@@Dr_LK did you check your playback quality settings.
These models should have the wings on it. Not saying all breitlings have to have the wings but these models they messed them up because they don't have the wings on them. I don't like them without the wings on it. I was a huge breitling fan.
You can’t have multiple logos though - given that the brand is now air, land and sea you can see the logic. Thanks for watching
The Breitling Stargate 😊
Smassshing it 🏆🎄🙏
I want that jacket too besides my new yellow Avenger.
Andrew was very interrested in that jacket on the shoot lemme tell you
Where do you get the Breitling clothing from? Do we get it in the UK?
From the boutique 👌🏻
38 hour power reserve is way too short for a watch made in 2022
Fair shout - chronometer cert is key, but PR could be improved - Kern has upgrading movements in his sights, interview coming soon.
Just curious, anyone know why their movements are at 38 hours. I know the b01 is at 70 but that’s the chronograph why is their entry models with the little power reserves and big cases. It’s abit like even if you wanna get 1 you have to think twice. If it was 50 or even 60 hours maybe be different. But yeah just odd.
Easy answer, their 3-hand movements are essentially COSC-grade ETA 2824. They sell some 3-hand models with Tudor movement but that one is thicker and it would compromise the design of the watch. Breitling desperately needs their own 3-hand movement with bigger power reserve.
Pilots Watches..lets give them wings!!!
The Breitling Avenger GMT version is so beautiful until I check the price :D
Need the 48mm
The pilot watches, air part of the collection. Should have the wing logo on. Not the best move to remove them. The in-house movement is not worth paying the price. I'll stick to the older models.
I like Breitling’s makeover. I just don’t particularly like their watch designs. I’ll never buy another watch with AR coatings on the top of the crystal, after my Planet Ocean scraped on some metal and made a mess of the AR coating. This limits me to Rolex, Tudor and a bunch of microbrands. Every time I see that Breitling blue AR in the video I wince. BTW “George Kern” was mentioned six times in this video.
I've worn my avenger with the blue coating to work for the last 4 years.
Never take it off and work in construction and not 1 scratch on the glass
I have managed an Omega AD and currently manage a Breitling AD. I have a Planet Ocean chrono and I’ve had a few other POs in the past. My favourite Omega line hands down. I have also owned more than a few Breitlings and currently have a couple. I can safely say that the Omega AR coating has driven me crazy and has cost me a lot of money in redundant crystal replacements, and it indeed feels easy to scratch. My current PO has a grey matt dial so it doesnt show much at least. I can confirm however that Breitling’s AR somehow does not have these issues. Don’t ask me why, I just never experienced the same easy scratch issues with their AR and I wear and treat then the same as the Omegas.
Love the new model but definitely overpriced I will wait to find a good used one
Breitling is to horology what Techno is to music.
Definitely love the direction Breitling are taking, however, they are still chunky monkeys. They need to work on the thickness of pretty much all their models
5 grand for the three hander, with a 38hr power movement is simply ridiculous. An absolute pitiful movement for the price.
There it is I was waiting for the predictable'it sucks' Yada Yada Yada, great job breitlng keep up the good work
@lw5495 Totally agree. The boring power reserve twaddle. 38hrs is enough for normal people!
Don't these have a 70h power reserve? That's what I'm seeing on the specs...
You are free to buy other watches if you cannot afford Breitling.
A 32% price increase on the previous model, are they insane?!
Is the Avenger made for HULK? Damn....15.1mm thick. Why can't they make the avenger for Bruce Banner instead 😢...
It’s thin compared to the old 45
@colingill47 not thin enough...I have the super chronomat with the same b01, and it's only 13.6 even the premier line top at 14. I am sure it's possible to trim at least a good 1mm. Anyway...despite all these I think the black ceramic do look really good 👍
If only they realised that it’s because they have gone away from aviation themes that they have lost a LOT of patronage.
Mate, with respect, they’ve quadrupled revenue - I personally LOVE the Premiere - check em out before you give up on it - Andrew
@@Timeandtidewatches thanks for the reply Andrew - I should’ve qualified my remarks better but I was pushed for time. I was referencing the aviation industry. There has been a marked move away from Breitling for Pilots, I am currently planning on a new work watch. My company (you would know which Aussie one I am talking about) even has in the past had custom Breitlings produced - but the last ‘options’ were not well received at all by crew.
I appreciate that they have diversified and been successful, but if you look at their core aviation / Pilot references, it has become in my and other Pilots’ opinions very stale.
I am more than happy to be proven wrong, as I have lusted after Breitlings for many years, but IWC and even Apple (unbelievably) have taken some of their market.
Thanks again for replying, keep up the bloody excellent content. Huge fan here.
Will have a look at the Breitling Regent St store in a few weeks when there next.
Cheers mate 🍻
Way too big!
there single handily limiting people who can purchase these. If u ask me it’s poor marketing from breitling
Boy George Kern is the only Magician in the Watch World of Wonders who
is capable of selling quality concerned consumers POPCORN for the price
of CAVIAR perfectly aimed at the LOOK AT ME GENERATION ! And sadly Eddy Schoepfer,the best Designer Breitling ever had was replaced by an industrial joker !!
No no nooo bring back the wing & anchor logo for aviation model! I dont like new navitimer due to it doesnt have old legendary winged logo on it
The B01 movement was introduced in 2009 and has been in the avenger line previously. There is nothing new here, yet you harp on this false point multiple times.
The case material and open case back are the two new things and you barely touch on them.
Really a rather poor video.
Right on !!
Over priced!
Nah, bring back the old logo and the old Breitling. Nobody wants ceramic and carbon fiber crap.
I love Breitling as a brand, but Christopher Ward offers way better value for money at present.
Just remove the word ass from the headline. Or the word bad. Either way...
Funny, all these guys saying George done bad, yet here Breitling are, selling cartloads. Grow up lads eh, things change.
but why there is no Avenger in +44mm without this stupid GMT hand?
New ceo sucks. No wing logo not even on the navtimwe! Just Aopa. So bad
Don’t like them, much prefer the older Avengers. How can he get rid of winged logo on an Avenger!!!
It’s all too big for small wrist
Not all watches are made for small wrists. Just look somewhere else
indeed this is true. For many out there. This size is the STARTING point. @@Bredes1
Your problem. There a men outside who can't wear womens watches!
@@j.m.4444I disagree, Muhammad Ali used to wear 28mm Cartier, so anyone can
More 40mm hand wound models coming this year ✌🏻 stay tuned - Andrew
What an absolute ripoff. Shiteling springs to mind. 😂😂