Wood chip fermentation at the Ranch
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- Spring is here! Time to start your submerged fermentation for expanding naturalized mycelium (wild mushroom patch) or to inoculate with lab grown spawn.
Air dry for 2 hours, 2 inches deep and recommended to rake the wood chips mid drying to speed the process before inoculation.
Fruiting should occur in the fall, recommended expansion rates are 1:10 to 1:50 ratio.
Happy Mycelium Running! - Paul
PLEASE NOTE: this is an microbial soup so wearing gloves for this process is highly recommended and even so thoroughly wash your hands afterwards. If you have cuts or immuno-compromised, be extra careful.
Read about this process in Mycelium Running! www.fungi.com/p...
Hi Paul, “stay tuned”, is there an update? Thanks for all you do, cheeeeers!
Thanks with all sincerity for sharing and disseminating your knowledge, wisdom, and insights Paul. We love you dearly. Keep up this invaluable work -- humanity needs it!
Of course you're gonna stumble upon some of Paul's work whilst researching methanol production. The world needs more STEM!!
Hoping for a longer video soon. :)
Love your work Paul, many thanks!
Basically the natural way. In nature during wetter colder seasons the leaves and branches drop to the floor...this layering reduces oxygen and then as it dries the mycelium take hold. Rotting logs perform this duty well as they are a sponge for water. Awesome video bro.
In this very concise explanation, a question that for years roamed my mind was answered... WOW!
Thanks! I did this in a large 30 gallon storage tote, 2 week fermentation and drained and inoculated an hour later with winecap sawdust spawn. Its running like crazy and its only been a few days.
Fungi is the future, blessings on your harvest. 🙏
makes complete sense after a week or two of rainfall in the forest and humid conditions and then mushrooms everywhere
Wow! -no suffering required! Asia has a few hundred+ years on us, then...., there's natural knowing... Thanks Paul!
I nominate Paul for King of the world.
Really liked your mushroom book. it's the best I've seen. Had it for years.
Thank you for the info. Cheers!
I discovered it by accident having a too wet growbag.
After the bottom part rotted I drained the water off the bag.
Suddenly the mycelium was colonizing that former rotten part of the bag in a speed I've never seen before.
And the top of that bag even had mold contamination the former wet bottom part was completely free of any contamination and colonized extremely quickly.
Later I read about it and found some few people know about this method.
In my opinion it's the easiest as well as cheapest way to prepare mushroom substrate.
Also the mushrooms there grew through it like hell and they loved it!
So try it people!
The only negative is the stink when it rots.
I'd wager if you put a lid on it with a 6-in stink pipe that went maybe 10 feet up it would change the equation of smell
Thank-you! I've been doing this with great success for indoor oyster buckets and outdoor stropharia patches :)
Is there a temperature range that should be adhered to while fermenting. Got a couple of your books Paul great work.
Makes a whole lot of sense
Great mycelium running!
awesome super interesting and looking forward to further updates I love to hear you in these videos show feel free to make them more frequent and longer you know just saying...lol
Thanks for sharing
How small a version of this process can you do? I've got a spawn brick that I broke up into coconut coir. Its an oyster mushroom brick. It gave me a lovely flush of mushrooms but never gave me the second one the package said it would. Instead the brick dried out and parts of it became hard as a rock.
I want this stuff to spread onto the old coir and make more mycelium but I don't see anything going on. ;.; except for a random basil seedling coming up.
Oh and do you know what the temperature tolerance is for white morels? I had them in a container last year, big sterilite box, now my landlord wants me to take apart the box and move or get rid of it. I don't see any sign of the mycelium that should have been spreading in it. ;.; *pokes* grow dangit... The box was on a tar beach roof, and i was growing potatoes, radishes, zucchini, and sunflowers, and perennials, at different times during the season. The morel spawn dad got me was spread over four sterilite boxes of soil. ;.; not a sign. I'm wondering if the heat from the tar beach killed it. It got hot enough on that thing to kill Kale and make malabar spinach and tomatoes esplode in growth.
;.; I want mushroooooooms. *howls at the moon impatiently*
WHERES THE FOLLOW UP PAUL!?!?!?!?!
Yeah dude?
See my comment on my experience with it. The best way I ever saw to prepare substrate!
For an enthusiastic first timer with a couple big barrels laying around, would you recommend this method? If so, where should I get spores for my first batch?
Yes this is the more natural way of nature, also I would forage for specimens to grow more of. It's been 6 years have you tried it? I would enjoy hearing the details.
I have tried this and it works.Opened a 40 litre bark chips bag from the shop and filled with water.Left for 10 days,then poked some holes in the bottom to drain.On the next day innoculated the bag with around 1/2 kilo shiitake grain spawn,closed the bag and left under a shade for another 2 weeks.It was colonised,and i mixed the chips in a bed with another 5 bags to expand,and covered the bed with garden shade.So I am waiting to see the results soon. :) Maybe I should have done the same with the 5 extra bags ,as well?
Any thoughts on this?
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How do you avoid contamination while it is drying?
Cheers, looks great!
Have you done any identification on the species of bacteria that proliferate in these ferments? Are they just lactobacillus like other fermented food and plant nutrient products?
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I am building a wicking garden. Its basic woodchips in a 3 feet deep by 3 ft wide with all the topsoil in a row with the wood chips on either side. For now, it is going to be a wicking garden where the topsoil will wick up moisture and nutrition from the side row of wood chips. After 4 or 5 years the woodchips should be great for planting in. My question is what editable mushroom inoculate can I use to put into the wood chips that would speed up the decaying process and give me a crop of mushrooms? I have 19 tandem axle loads of mulch in these rows of 100 ft. 2nd question is do you sell it and can I start something in July of 2022?
wow!! awesome idea ....gonna try it
By the way guys and gals I just read the description and it goes into further detail on the proses.
U Rock Paul!!!! thankyou for what you do!!!!
I wonder if I could use the alder pellets I let get soaked in the rain... was gonna just discard it but maybe I'll sprinkle some in my (wannabe) mono tub of wild substrate... trying to spread some mushy love throughout the property I live on...
Paul is it a good idea to ferment mushrooms like vegetables in brine to eat raw or could that be potentially harmful for you?
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It blows my mind more folks aren't on board.
Ingenious!
Looks like a super easy technique 😁
Q: I have some woodchips I've collected from an area and want to use them to grow a target species of mushroom on.. they already have some mycelium on them. Will this technique kill that non target species off and then I can introduce my target strain or will doing his help the non target species thrive? Essentially is this step down pre or post innocculation of the woodchips?
If my mycelium is aerobic then they shouldn't be able to survive in an anaerobic environment. The anaerobic bacteria should destroy the aerobic mycelium in an anaerobic environment. When anaerobic environment is removed, it should be a clean slate for colonisation.
@@matthewmeuleman3369 so once the wood chips are dry, what's the next step to grow in bags? Rehydrate the wood chips? Then add spores?
@@torontotom3168 I haven't grown any in bags, I normally put my chips in compost. Theoretically, once it's sterilised of both aerobic and anaerobic life, it's a clean slate to work with.
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How do you avoid contamination while it is drying?
Will this work for Lion's Mane? Other question, is it better to use sawdust/wood chip spawn, or grain (popcorn) spawn will do fine? I'm worried about possible contamination after inoculation..
Does it matter what kind of wood chips? Methinks something like Oleander might be best avoided?
+Patrick Ball good thinking Hmmmmmmmmm apple chips too
What would be the reasoning behind that?
great info. ordered book. is water such mosquitos won't breed in it? can barrels be covered?
+safetyforemost i think definitely no problem to cover with mesh, and in theory no problem to cover with a tight lid (c.f. biogas digesters, bokashi, etc)
Spread it out 2" deep to inoculate and then gather it up or cover it with more chips to protect the spawn? How wet should it be in Summer? How long will it last? Can you keep refreshing the area with new chips every year without having to respawn? Is this in one of the books?
That is not true. Bacterial and fungi do NOT suck up nitrogen. They can only make use of nitrogen at the layer that they are present in and will release that nitrogen when they die.
nice, does this speed up woodchip decomposition for later composting? will it improve if you add nitrogen?
Anerobes like Brettanomyces? Lactobacillus Delbreki? Curious...
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Can I cultivate lions mane with this types of woodchips? And method of fermentation?
Hello!
Yes you can. I have just done it. Have some grain spawn ready to go and chuck it in as per usual when you've gotten the water out. :)
I need to pee now.
thank you!!!
Thanks for sharing
Would love a follow up to this video.
There is no need for a Laminar flow hood for the spawn inoculation?
I needed for my family members, many had suffered of ahzheimer
Can this be used as a substitute to pasteurizing substrate for indoor cultivation as well or is this still being pasteurized after adding colonized grains in grow bags? Anyone? :)
This is also (incorrectly) called cold water pasteurization. No, you will not need to heat pasteurize the substrate afterwards.
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Interesting! 🌞
We have deciduous woodchips for our slightly too acidic garden. Does it work either way, deciduous or connifer? We're trying to have a basic influence on our garden ph.
ph in a garden is not really important most of the time.. Ph is usually only an issue if something bad is happening with your plants, but it would have to be something REALLY bad outside.. like a tanker flew over and doused your beds with vinegar or something..
Amazing.
i need more detail about that those videos goes ao fast...
If the water is anaerobic wouldn't that make it unhealthy for the soil? Im genuinely curious
he said, that after the barrel was emptied of water, that the wood would come in contact with the air when it was speard out in the air, which would kill the anaerobic (without oxygen) bacterias. Then the fermented wood becomes aerobic (With oxygen) like the myecilium is too and therefore the oxygin filled air and oxygin filled myecillium run wild because they both eradicate the anarobe bateria (its like 2 agaist 1) . noitice the difference between ANAerobic (without oxygen) bacteria and Aerobic ( With oxygen) bacteria
Is it possible for oyster mushrooms
follow up?
Did I hear you say that anaerobes become aerobes upon contact with O2?
Nobody tell GunClingingPalin how much bacteria is in his mouth...
So, if they go anaerobic, i can't use the water afterwards to water other plants, since there might be toxins in there? So I better get rid of it?
you could use the anaerobic water, check out fermented plant extracts. the anaerobic water would also be a good choice as a starter for actively aerated compost tea.
ok, thanks
Why the hell would you use anaerobic water to start an aerobic compost tea. The fallacy is obnoxiously apparent. It would be like saying never clean your tea Brewer because the anaerobic gunk that gets stuck in the nooks and crannies is great fun.
Couldn’t you just aerate the water for a while before adding the compost?...
What could we introduce in east Palestine ohio? Show the people what they're capable of doing. Penicillium glabrum would ruin agricultural wouldn't it? Says it removes PVC. Maybe Oyster?
Pleurotus aspergillus trichoderma?
Your the wizard I'm just an amateur.
I thought so
Paul stamets sounds like he's always drunk
You of all people radiate ego