Thanks for including the safety info. Many newbies seem to underestimate just how harmful these products can be to their health - especially something that sounds as benign as 'water washable'.
Hi! I would definitely imagine so, this was Elegoo's own resin after all :) You may just need to find the resin profile settings for your specific printer. And you can always fine tune the settings with a file like the cones of calibration
Stiffness and durability are often mutually exclusive. This is why knives and other metalworkings are tempered, to make the metal *less* hard so that it does not shatter.
Day 2 with my new printer, Elegoo Mars 2 Pro... resin is everywhere saftey gear got glued to desk my hands burn and the printer is making scary noises.
Glad to know the ABS resin is not much different from 'the water one' :-) Saving the IPA money is great, but my reason to decide for the water washable (and deciding buying a Mars 2 pro altogether) is to avoid IPA at all, I don't like its odor. Thanks for the video, keep it going!
nice review thanks, although i am against the water washable in principal because I dont trust the masses to non rinse in sink, this is helpful info and will try it as well!
@@KannonStudiosOfficial water washable resin is a big step and since i knew about that an SLA printer is back on my "wants list" - but what do you really do with the contaminated water- every video i see says " i let it evaporate in the garden" - but what do you do if you print a lot, or in the winter, or if you have no garden ?
@@senegalus I do not ever pour out this water but I re-use it and sift out and pieces. You can continue this process of using UV light and re-using the water. This is what I do personally. I have a few large containers and some small ones. You can always use a UV lamp.
But the sink water is going to a treatment station... Where there is no aquatic life, but it going into the water were poop goes, where Bleach from your washing machine, cloth machine, and all the chemicals one can out in the toilet...so whats the deal? The water won't go into a river....
It's not safe for any un-cured resin to down the sink. Hope this helps! :) www.reddit.com/r/PrintedMinis/comments/ipoc5h/question_how_to_dispose_of_water_washable_resin/
@@KannonStudiosOfficial right but the reason is why.. because all the waste water goes to the treatment stations.. so.. what's the problem... The water is not going to the rivers I believe..
I just used the same ones I used for the regular resin. They didn't come out as good so idk if i need to change the settings or not. Ive been so busy I haven't looked into it more. x__x
I do not pour it out or in the drain personally. I will keep it in the sun and strain it removing any already cured pieces, which can be throw away. Then I am able to re-use the water and I can continue this process or let it evaporate. If any resin is still liquid it's considered a hazardous material, so I try to be as safe as possible when working with it.
Great and very informative review. I have considered a resin printer for quite a while now, but the whole bit with having to struggle with another chemical to clean the resin is really putting me off. This sounds like a good solution! Have you moved over to only using water washable resin now?
I didnt because it's too brittle for a lot of the things i make like props. I am currently using a 50/50 ratio of siraya tech blu / siraya tech fast grey.
With the water wash resin I would filter out the cured residue after leaving it out in the sun. Then i reuse that same water. If never intending to reuse, i would just let it evaporate from the container over time.
This is the lamp I use which is 60W. Also recently got a UV flash-light which is useful if you do a lot of assembly and I like that too. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07XJZK4R6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
From my experience its about the same as far as details go if thez settings are right. The biggest difference in details usually comes down to the capabilities of the printer itself. Water resin is more brittle than some other options.l however.
I haven't tried various water temperatures but it would be an interesting experiment. I'd imagine it makes it much softer. I have the radius at the end of my supports very small,. so my supports are usually fairly easy to pull off. Something I may try out. Thanks!
The water resin is known to wash off easier, and none of your later prints had left over resin. I feel like inadequate cleaning was a factor for the rook's stairs. Checking out many YT'ers evaluations and water washable seems for all intents and purposes, equal in capability to standard resin.
I recently came into this issue never really knowing how brittle ABS like resin is. It hasn't bee suggested to mix in the water washable resin before,. so I will have to try that. I printed so many things not realizing how easy they break. Until one day I barley dropped something and it broke,... lol..
I mostly make props, so I mainly just stick to my blended mixed of 50/50 Siraya Tech Fast (Grey) and Siraya Tech Blu. I've found this mix has a great durability - while helping save on cost. I haven't used water washable as much just because of durability. I still think it's great for certain projects.
First time on your channel, I see you have the Wham Bam Flex. I have them on all my printers too. As a Chemist, your safety tips were spot on. I just tried “Anycubic Water-Wash Resin +” on my Phrozen Sonic Mighty 8K and got good results. One thing I might suggest is that you invest in an Ultrasonic unit to get the resin out of deep places. I’m primarily just a painter.
Thanks and welcome!! It's so cool you are a Chemist! I did have a sonic cleaner for a while but it broke in a unique way! LUL. Now I have the elegoo mercury wash and cure station set which is working good so far! Both work great. I appreciate the tips!
I have only printed with water washable a few times but have moved to a different resin. When I did print I used the same settings. They seem to work but idk if they are the best settings since I didn't play around with it much.
I believe I used chitubox's presets for that specific resin. Elegoo also has recommendations on their site for each resin. As far as the support sizes and other custom settings, it's a bit more than i could post as a reply here... maybe another video!
Hello I am new to printing just ordered one and ive heard that water washable resin is a bit stronger than normal resin that people use (less brittle) Do you know if it is true? I have heard mixed opinion thanks again :)
It is true that it is less brittle,. but still brittle. I have moved to using a mixed ratio of 50/50 ABS - BLU resin. I needed my stuff to be much more durable because I mostly make costume items. :)
My city is considering huge fines for anyone disposing of contaminated water from resin printing improperly. The proposed fines are from thousands of dollars to actual time in prison depending on location. It seems that some experts have been going around the United States showing people how to trace down contamination through sewage, and other means. They don’t even have to enter the home to confirm. Apartments are more complex, but that does not mean that the fines are less in any way. The owner will be fined if they don’t do their own inspection and stop the contamination. It also encourages the owner to give up any information and or allow the inspectors to come in. This hasn’t hit big news. And probably won’t. But they’re currently going around my area and finding some seriously terrifying data. Oh, and these people started out as drug enforcement. So they’ve also have tracked down about six meth labs in our area lol.
6:53 whats going on here?
Thanks for including the safety info. Many newbies seem to underestimate just how harmful these products can be to their health - especially something that sounds as benign as 'water washable'.
It really does seem like it would be safer. lol.
Hi!
Is it compatible with ELEGOO Jupiter 6K?
Hi! I would definitely imagine so, this was Elegoo's own resin after all :) You may just need to find the resin profile settings for your specific printer. And you can always fine tune the settings with a file like the cones of calibration
@@KannonStudiosOfficial thanks!
I just tried the Anycubic Water Washable, and well, it seems very brittle and heavy.
It is a bit brittle for sure!
Very tempted to buy a printer but cannot think of enough things to print.
Stiffness and durability are often mutually exclusive. This is why knives and other metalworkings are tempered, to make the metal *less* hard so that it does not shatter.
Day 2 with my new printer, Elegoo Mars 2 Pro... resin is everywhere saftey gear got glued to desk my hands burn and the printer is making scary noises.
Oh no! Hope things worked out.
Glad to know the ABS resin is not much different from 'the water one' :-) Saving the IPA money is great, but my reason to decide for the water washable (and deciding buying a Mars 2 pro altogether) is to avoid IPA at all, I don't like its odor. Thanks for the video, keep it going!
Yeah I think it's a great resin. I will be using it a lot more and may just switch to it 100% as well!
Please let us know where we can find this support for the plate. I searched for it but I didn't find it.
Made by PhoenixBlueStudios www.thingiverse.com/thing:4634693
nice review thanks, although i am against the water washable in principal because I dont trust the masses to non rinse in sink, this is helpful info and will try it as well!
Yes this is true,. I really hope people are not using the sink. I hope in time more solutions are created to use less toxic materials if possible.
@@KannonStudiosOfficial water washable resin is a big step and since i knew about that an SLA printer is back on my "wants list" - but what do you really do with the contaminated water- every video i see says " i let it evaporate in the garden" - but what do you do if you print a lot, or in the winter, or if you have no garden ?
@@senegalus I do not ever pour out this water but I re-use it and sift out and pieces. You can continue this process of using UV light and re-using the water. This is what I do personally. I have a few large containers and some small ones. You can always use a UV lamp.
Very cool. Definitely like the idea of the water resin for easier cleaning.
Same! lol
But the sink water is going to a treatment station... Where there is no aquatic life, but it going into the water were poop goes, where Bleach from your washing machine, cloth machine, and all the chemicals one can out in the toilet...so whats the deal? The water won't go into a river....
It's not safe for any un-cured resin to down the sink. Hope this helps! :) www.reddit.com/r/PrintedMinis/comments/ipoc5h/question_how_to_dispose_of_water_washable_resin/
@@KannonStudiosOfficial right but the reason is why.. because all the waste water goes to the treatment stations.. so.. what's the problem... The water is not going to the rivers I believe..
Hi Kiki I am currently using the water resin, I'm curious what are settings are you using?
I just used the same ones I used for the regular resin. They didn't come out as good so idk if i need to change the settings or not. Ive been so busy I haven't looked into it more. x__x
Thanks for the info. I've heard other people say after exposing the water to sunlight for a while it can be dumped in the drain. Is this not the case?
I do not pour it out or in the drain personally. I will keep it in the sun and strain it removing any already cured pieces, which can be throw away. Then I am able to re-use the water and I can continue this process or let it evaporate. If any resin is still liquid it's considered a hazardous material, so I try to be as safe as possible when working with it.
Great and very informative review.
I have considered a resin printer for quite a while now, but the whole bit with having to struggle with another chemical to clean the resin is really putting me off.
This sounds like a good solution!
Have you moved over to only using water washable resin now?
I didnt because it's too brittle for a lot of the things i make like props. I am currently using a 50/50 ratio of siraya tech blu / siraya tech fast grey.
How do you dispose of the water you used to clean the resin of the print? thanks.
With the water wash resin I would filter out the cured residue after leaving it out in the sun. Then i reuse that same water. If never intending to reuse, i would just let it evaporate from the container over time.
the transparent color waterwash resin is pretty good IMO, comes out a bit hazy but its pretty.
Oh I haven't tried that one before! Thanks for the feedback on it.
BTW how much watts has your UV lamp? I need 2 to 3 hours of curing with a 20 'chinese watts' UV lamp. I got surprised you only need half an hour.
This is the lamp I use which is 60W.
Also recently got a UV flash-light which is useful if you do a lot of assembly and I like that too.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07XJZK4R6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
@@KannonStudiosOfficial Nice :-)
halo kiki for details is better normal or water based in your opinion thx
From my experience its about the same as far as details go if thez settings are right. The biggest difference in details usually comes down to the capabilities of the printer itself. Water resin is more brittle than some other options.l however.
@@KannonStudiosOfficial thx so much
Rumour has it that if you wash in warm water the supports come of easier, I imagine the thinner parts of the model will as well if your not carefull
I always remove supports before (or during) cleaning. That's another advantage of the water washable resin.
I haven't tried various water temperatures but it would be an interesting experiment. I'd imagine it makes it much softer. I have the radius at the end of my supports very small,. so my supports are usually fairly easy to pull off. Something I may try out. Thanks!
The water resin is known to wash off easier, and none of your later prints had left over resin. I feel like inadequate cleaning was a factor for the rook's stairs.
Checking out many YT'ers evaluations and water washable seems for all intents and purposes, equal in capability to standard resin.
Also, WW being softer may prevent models from being broken if dropped, without mixing in expensive flex resin to soften them up.
I recently came into this issue never really knowing how brittle ABS like resin is. It hasn't bee suggested to mix in the water washable resin before,. so I will have to try that. I printed so many things not realizing how easy they break. Until one day I barley dropped something and it broke,... lol..
Nice!!!
Thank you exactly what i was looking for
Interesting review, thanks! Has your opinion changed since/anything new to report?
I mostly make props, so I mainly just stick to my blended mixed of 50/50 Siraya Tech Fast (Grey) and Siraya Tech Blu. I've found this mix has a great durability - while helping save on cost. I haven't used water washable as much just because of durability. I still think it's great for certain projects.
I’d really recommend an ultrasonic cleaner. Just keep changing out the water until it doesn’t get cloudy.
I have one,. and funny story I actually got electrocuted by it and kicked my breaker. Lul. Only accident to ever happen in the studio.
First time on your channel, I see you have the Wham Bam Flex. I have them on all my printers too.
As a Chemist, your safety tips were spot on. I just tried “Anycubic Water-Wash Resin +” on my Phrozen Sonic Mighty 8K and got good results.
One thing I might suggest is that you invest in an Ultrasonic unit to get the resin out of deep places.
I’m primarily just a painter.
Thanks and welcome!! It's so cool you are a Chemist! I did have a sonic cleaner for a while but it broke in a unique way! LUL. Now I have the elegoo mercury wash and cure station set which is working good so far! Both work great. I appreciate the tips!
@@KannonStudiosOfficial
Thanx Kiki, see you in the next video. 😎
Nice video, did you use the setting you would normally use for the ABS when you printed the water washable?
I have only printed with water washable a few times but have moved to a different resin. When I did print I used the same settings. They seem to work but idk if they are the best settings since I didn't play around with it much.
I know I can just use water to clean them but would it hurt to also dip them in a bucket of Mean Green to get that extra crud off?
I don't see there being any issues, but I haven't personally done this.
whoa.
Lovely video, how was the smell of the water washable resin?
It has an oder. I'ts different from the other resin,. I prefer to still wear a mask.
Have you tried water curing your prints. It is supposed to help them cure better because it prevents oxygen from interfering with the curing process.
Doesnt work well with water wasable, as you need to dry them off before curing to prevent future cracks
I havent tried this.
What were your settings?
I believe I used chitubox's presets for that specific resin. Elegoo also has recommendations on their site for each resin. As far as the support sizes and other custom settings, it's a bit more than i could post as a reply here... maybe another video!
Hello I am new to printing just ordered one and ive heard that water washable resin is a bit stronger than normal resin that people use (less brittle) Do you know if it is true? I have heard mixed opinion thanks again :)
It is true that it is less brittle,. but still brittle. I have moved to using a mixed ratio of 50/50 ABS - BLU resin. I needed my stuff to be much more durable because I mostly make costume items. :)
@@KannonStudiosOfficial Brilliant :) Thank you very much, il be doing more so minis and busts for painting. Thanks again A big help.
My city is considering huge fines for anyone disposing of contaminated water from resin printing improperly. The proposed fines are from thousands of dollars to actual time in prison depending on location.
It seems that some experts have been going around the United States showing people how to trace down contamination through sewage, and other means. They don’t even have to enter the home to confirm.
Apartments are more complex, but that does not mean that the fines are less in any way. The owner will be fined if they don’t do their own inspection and stop the contamination. It also encourages the owner to give up any information and or allow the inspectors to come in.
This hasn’t hit big news. And probably won’t. But they’re currently going around my area and finding some seriously terrifying data.
Oh, and these people started out as drug enforcement. So they’ve also have tracked down about six meth labs in our area lol.
Sounds intense! One should always dispose of resin waste properly.
Best review on the washable Resin yet. Well done, thank you.
Wow, thank you!
How did you dispose of the water after washing?
by pouring it directly onto baby ducks. :(
In another comment she said that she cures it, strains it, and reuses it, or she will let it completely evaporate.
Basically what @glory Conlin said
Only human babies obviously 🙄 😅