Lost Odyssey | Retrospective Review
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Today we're looking at Lost Odyssey, the sprawling RPG from Mistwalker and Final Fantasy creator Hironobu Sakaguchi after his departure from Square Enix in the early 2000s. What most people don't realize, however, is that the bulk of this game's development wasn't done by Mistwalker at all--but rather by a small company called Feelplus after Microsoft Studios determined it would be too expensive to keep the project in house. In this video, I cover all of that development history and give my own thoughts on this incredibly unique XBOX 360 game.
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Thanks for watching, everyone! A couple of extra thoughts/clarifications:
1. When I said at 13:53 that Lost Odyssey doesn't show many rough edges, I was speaking more to the user experience as a whole rather than to the game's performance. As some of the footage I captured in the video shows, the framerate often dips pretty significantly (it's possible that my Xbox 360 being so old is a contributing factor), and the load times can be really long. If you download data from the discs onto the console's hard drive it can mitigate the load times somewhat, but they're pretty unbearable even when you do that. Performance aside, the game's UX is top-notch.
2. I've had a lot of good conversations with people over the last couple of weeks (on our podcast and elsewhere) who have offered some interesting points about how eternal life could stay interesting and fulfilling long term. I'm still not wholly convinced that a person wouldn't grow sick of being alive at some point, but it's been really cool to see people contributing their own experiences and perspectives to this ongoing conversation. If you'd like to give your two cents on this feel free to do so in the comments. I think it's a fascinating philosophical question. My problem with the game's storytelling isn't that this conclusion is different from my own, but that the storytellers didn't "earn" that conclusion by showing how the main character arrived at it.
Anyway, again I appreciate all of you who have watched and shared the video. I have a lot of other video ideas that I'm working on currently and hope to have something new for you soon! Stay safe!
Resonant Arc Hey are you guys going to make a review of FF7R on this channel?
I really love how in-depth your analysis is in all of your videos. Truly helps get you immersed in each title you cover. Thanks for the hard work!
I think when you are talking about immortality or living 1000 years there are a number of factors to consider. Where are you? What sort of world do you live in? What sort of person are you? What sort of people do you live with or hang around with. These are some of them. Living in heaven for example which is a place with no pain, disease, sickness, suffering, or death would be (dare I say it) heavenly. In real life, I do think it would be quite hard to live for 1000 years but your experience would be dependent on the moral choices you make and all the other factors that I mentioned and didn't mention. Also Tolkien believed that things get worse as time goes on in our world. Perhaps this is why we look back at the past nostalgically with rose tinted glasses because we didn't realize how good we had it. I don't think it is being "alive" that people grow sick of. I think that the reason why we grow sick of living is because we are in a world of death and suffering. But to be truly alive I don't think anybody gets sick of. An interesting note which you may know is in the book of Genesis there are people who live for about 1000 years though not exactly that. God shortens peoples life spans in order to reduce the rampant wickedness and evil in the land. I believe this is before he wipes out mankind with a worldwide flood.
Play Planescape: Torment. True, it’s a western RPG, but it’s like Lost Odyssey but better in nearly every aspect.
I defo remember it having long loading times too. I also remember thinking this game was stunning when it was released, it's a shame the animations are stiff. I love the skill system in this game, but I'm also a huge FF9 fan so that goes without saying.
Really great video as always, I'll check out the podcast, sounds interesting!
I made Nobou Uematsu giddy with excitement when I brought him a copy of Lost Odyssey to sign at a Distant Worlds concert. He said something to the effect of not too many people remember his work on the soundtrack.
Damn i hope anyone else who talks to him tells him its more than a few of us who love his LO Ost.
I love PSX FF soundtracks but LO is almost its best (if not THE best) in my opinion.
The soundtrack alone made me grab a copy of this game! Nobu Uematsu is probably my favorite video game composer.
@@Ultimataco The Nobo is the best music composer imo too. The reason turn based battles are fun, is largely due to his insane quality of battle theme music i think. The one from LO is indeed up there with his best work.
This game contains some of the best pieces he has ever composed. I'm glad he appreciated that as much as he did.
In the case of Gongora's character, and his utter, hamfisted villainy toward the end of his arc - it was always my take that where emotions are a relatively novel concept for the immortals, so too is empathy and moralty. To cut a long theory short, I always saw it as Gongora simply enjoying how fun irreverence and causing suffering can be. Kaim, Sarah, Ming and Seth discovered the merits of love, compassion and happiness whilst Gongora explored emotions on the other side of that coin. I always thought that was why they fought infront of a giant mirror at the end.
that's really beautiful
That's a really good point and I think entirely possible. Unfortunately the performance just wasn't up to snuff.
A great example of it being pulled off is Patrick Stewart's performance in the TNG episode "Sarek" where he takes on all of Sarek's uncontrollable emotions.
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Although how many people can live up to this scene? One of the greatest performances of all time.
I found Gongora's secret lab and in the halosphere it gives a glimpse into what is motivating Gongora. It's these emotions that are like a virus. So they overtook his actions. I want to believe Gongora was part of the 5 neither good.nor evil.
@@Pkilla80I just found this area yesterday on a new run through. Gongora was never a truly bad person, but the virus consumed him. I haven’t finished the game quite yet, but it’s sad to see what happened with the investigators I suppose
Everytime I see these vids I can't help but imagine some alternate reality where Wada got ousted and Sakaguchi stayed on at Square, and lament all the games we could have gotten instead. Imagine if this game had gotten all the talent and resources at Squares disposal.
@MertensCW Ah Yes, FeelPlus and Artoon, the RPG companies no one has ever heard of. Vets =/= Talent, nor vision. And its the vision of the old squaresoft that I'm talking about.
The trailer for this game was one of the best video game commericals ever made. Had me pumped to play the game.
Ff13 was a good one too
@mazrimalthor is it really that great..? Should I give it a try?
@@theanimerapper6351 and utterly misleading lol
Mike, I can't thank you enough for these retrospectives. They introduced me to some of the most profound works I've ever experienced.
You have no idea how awesome it is to see this. I'm super glad you've been able to discover some of these classic RPGs! I really appreciate you watching!
@@ResonantArc wholesome :)
The definition of an underrated straight up masterpiece. When it first came out, despite growing up on all of the classics, I knew right away this one was special and would endure. I really hoped they would follow this up at some point, but it’s singular nature also makes it even more special.
I just wish there was a PS4/Switch port
"You don't have to read the dreams to understand the story, but you have to read them to understands its message" quality content like that is what makes your channel separate from the rest.
Fantastic retrospective. You put a lot of work into this. I learned a lot of stuff about the development of the game I didn't know as well. I thank you for putting your all into this Mike. Can't wait for the next!
The game may not do a perfect job of closing the story and it's themes out, but at least it set out to do something unique and delivered on that in the dreams and some parts of the plot. for that I really appreciate the gem. It's only so many times I can stomach the power of friendship.
This game deserves an xbox one x enhancement or PC version. Especially since it was an exclusive. Some of the locales would be gorgeous in 4k with 16x anistropic filtering.
It did receive an Xbox One X enhancement
@@MetaMetro3 its backwards compatible but not enhanced.
Agreed it definitely deserves to be X enhanced in 4k but all non patched games on Xbox One X already receive 16x anisotropic filtering at the system level.
Yes! Please microsoft!!
Guys, so much years passed but you know there is a way, it exists in some form.
Emulator xenia, just google about it. Lost odyssey is already like playable and with great upgrades like resolution or frame rate
Criminally underrated channel
116k subscribers?
Criminally underrated game I wish ff and others like these would stay turn based that's the point of the games rather than the slice and dice wait action weak sauce
Longing for the day a miracle happens and we get a port or sequel of Lost Odyssey.
Hopefully at least a Steam release or more games ported into the XB Gamepass.
@@84jesterx A steam and Gamepass release would be perfect.
Port? It's already backwards compatible and runs great on Xbox One. On the Xbox Series X it will even have HDR... hopefully they do their magic and upgrade the resolution also.
@@momsbasement656 not everyone has an Xbox or wants to play it on Xbox.
@@momsbasement656 will confirm. i have an xbone x and I thought it looked better than when I played it when it came out. It totally sucked me back in its world again.
The Dreams in this game made me cry. Hard. Never have experienced such severe emotions from a game, from before playing this, to this very day.
Same.. the first dream caught me off guard.. i was so emotional during the short stories.. the music was so brilliantly composed
Yes, I am currently playing this masterpiece and those short stories are extremely well written.
I literally just bought this game yesterday. Found a sealed copy on ebay for 18 bucks. Couldn't pass that up. It's been a game I've wanted to play for years.
Please treasure it. My copy was stolen along with my xbox 360 years ago. Sure, I can buy a new one, but I can never get the OG back.
I never knew how deep the history of this game's production actually was. Going WAY back to 2000's Squaresoft is something that was totally necessary to understand a game so important for Sakaguchi. Also, Uematsu's reason for going freelance is hilarious.
I was a massive gamer yet never got into JRPGs until 2010 when I found this master piece. I have so many great memories playing this game! I had to learn an entire new way to play which felt strange from the fps and rpg realm I came from. I remember almost quitting at the Bogimoray boss but the accomplishment I got from that success felt AMAZING. I completely lost myself in the story and loved the OST. I don’t want to type too much more but this game will always have a place in my heart for introducing me to an amazing game genre. Also I listen to the OST til this day!!
Bring this to PC. To many people missed out on it.
Bring it to every thing
Hopefully it gets the Tales of Vesperia treatment
It was on PC for awhile via Steam, then it got removed from the store. I still have it in my library, not sure if I can still install and play it though.
This was a great game. It was like a Final Fantasy.
@@kurtdewittphoto This game never have a Steam port.
Seriously when did they decide that overworld maps were obsolete. Tales of vesperia had one of the best modern overworlds .
I was going to say something about how I loved the game, but I found the overworld every bit as barebones as back in the PS1 era. But when I think about that game's overworld, it was actually pretty well laid out with some interesting plot related moments happening alongside.
@@12ealDealOfficial yeah like how people would get mad at rita for using fire spells in the desert or if you travel for a while without going into town they would complain about being hungry then go crazy and ask to eat a Gel lol
Dragon Quest XI is the modern overworld perfectly realised. The overworld is only used while you're in a boat but the actual footwork is just an overworld turned into areas that have more character and depth than they ever did in the past. 20 hours in with that game and I was still impressed with the way they modernised overworlds
Haven't played Tales of Vesperia yet, but I believe Ni No Kuni II's world map deserves a mention as well.
@@H3llrider92 the first Ni No Kuni overworld was great as well
Finally someone talks about this game again. I personally still love this game. Closest thing to an ff6 we have in modern era games
This is the true FFXIII as far as I am concerned.
I had rather hoped that the story would have concluded with the immortals taking what they've learned of emotional pain and using that to return to their lives on the homeworld and make it a better place.
Oh nice! I'm actually playing Lost Odyssey right now on XB1 :) Looking forward to watching this.
You play it in 2020?
Yep i remenber FF13 have awesome trailers
I am playing right now as we speak
@@jjexpress134 Yeah lol
Id love to play this and ff13 again
One of the best VG soundtracks of all time.
This game holds a special place in my heart. It came out in the same year that my mother ended up passing away, so whether it be reading the 1,000 years of dreams, or listening to the music, I am always brought back to that difficult time in my life. I loved this game so much, and wish that so many more people had the opportunity to play it.
Holy shit. Came here to say the same thing. Except for me if was my dad who passed suddenly. It threw my life into chaos. Then this game came along and I completely lost myself in it. I fell in love with the characters and their story. It just came at the perfect moment for me in my life. For that reason, even though it’s not perfect, it will always be my most beloved game.
Still holds up to this day. Amazing JRPG. I started a new game the other week just to relive the awesomeness.
Enchanted arms is another good one
The production quality of this video is really high! It was very pleasant to watch
I remember the short stories really caught me off guard. I saw them and thought maybe some exec's nephew liked writing and so they stuffed a bunch into the game. About half way through I finally read one of them. Yow! I quickly went back and read the rest I had picked up.
This is playable on Xenia - I'm up to disc 3 with no issues besides some minor audio bugs in cutscenes. You need to lock your framerate to 62fps
The graphics in this game still look pretty good today. I remember playing this on 360 but was too young to appreciate what it was trying to do.
This is one of my favorite RPGs of all time.
one of the best jrpg's of all time - TOTALY UNDERRATED MASTERPIECE ♥️
we need ps4/XboxOne/Switch/PC ports >~< !
Already on the PC and 100% playable in 60FPS using Xenia.
@@lSeKToRl We are not talking emulation.
It is officially playable in 4K on Xbox One X though per backwards compability.
@@FelixS. you mean upscaled to 4k.
SeKToR Yeah of course. I expect people to be capable of this transfer by themselves and do not feel the necessity to mention it in particular. I also don’t mention the sky to be blue when I talk about it ;)
microsoft own the ip i believe, i hope they at least release it on STeam
Lost Odyssey is one of the best RPG's I've ever played. The story was amazing and the battle system was nostalgic. I even used a guide to get all the 1000 years of dreams because they were so good.
Cooke and Mack can screw right off though.
I still remember the day this came out. One of my most anticipated games, hearing it come through the letterbox, ripping open the package, running upstairs, inserting disc 1, closing the disc drive and.... Red ring of death.
Fucking dam man ......😭😭
Still holding out on the possibility of a PC port eventually to play this so I won't spoil myself here, but here's some viewer engagement
You gonna be waiting a long time lol
@@omensoffate Well i'm not buying an Xbox 360 so wait I shall.
Nothing is impossible on the PC.
ruclips.net/video/L0v_nzHHqA8/видео.html
Also a used 360 is like ... $50 these days.
I found a copy but will need to obtain an XBOX to play on (PlayStation guy here).
Heard about this game when I was younger but of course young me could only afford to invest in one system.
Perhaps I’ll get a used system on the cheap!?
You really feel the Hironobu Sakaguchi vibe in this game and that's why it's so good. Also Nobuo Uematsu have done the soundtrack.
Every now and again I see another one of these Retrospective Videos show up in my feed, and every time it's Lost Odyssey I watch it, Absolutely one of if not my #1 favorite game of all time, The entire package to me was something that I was way more invested in than most other games, heck even just media in general, It captured me on a level that nearly no other thing has.
The only thing I would like to comment about in particular would be the voice direction, I think they nailed characters personalities in a way that may be cringe/over the top/awkward, but I feel like that adds to the charm of the game and the moments, It may detract from the emotional/seriousness of the story and message but I liked that it was a game that didn't take itself too seriously, I could be wrong but if it had been less so I feel it could have become grating since the game itself is so long. It has been a while since I've replayed it.
4 years late but still a wonderful watch
An underappreciated gem of a game with an amazing soundtrack. The battle theme is still one of my all time favorites.
The biggest issue i had with it back in the day were the insanely long loading times. At least they managed to mask it somewhat by starting battles with that camera pan around your characters and enemies instead of just a black loading screen. Even then it got "really" tedious after a while.
The long loading times luckily aren't an issue if you're playing Lost Odyssey on Series X or S.
Lost Odyssey to me feels like an SNES game with modern visuals and production values. There’s not many games that give me this feeling aside from something like Dragon Quest 11.
I also think this is Uematsu’s best soundtrack he has made. The battle themes are fantastic along with the main theme.
What I learned from this video: Don't skip Thousand Years of Dreams!
There was a moment when Kaim kneels before his dying daughter, whom he had finally been reunited with through sheer circumstance, only to be there for her final moments. She whispers into his ear something we do not hear but fully understand as Kaim becomes immediately full of grief and sadness, teary eyed as he simply responds, "I know". This scene never fails to strike a chord in my heart. Over the 3 or 4 playthroughs of Lost Odyssey, it never fails to fully capture the emotional effect of loss, and I ALWAYS cry.
27:28 I mean, part of the problem with outliving your loved ones, is mitigated if your loved one is literally immortal like you are. Yes, Kaim and Sarah will always outlive their children and descendants, but they will have each other. And heck, they can literally watch over ALL their descendants for all time as like a pair of immortal matriarch and patriarch.
Thanks for uploading the video with english subtitles, my native languague is spanish, i'm studying english and i really appreciate watching your videos with subtitles :)
Dude, this was so much more than a review. This was a straight up deep dive omnibus. Thank you so much. Subbed btw!
We need Remasters of
MISTWALKER's Gems
*The Last Story
*Lost Odyssey
*Blue Dragon
It's amazing that they haven't yet, I almost think they should do a big relaunch for lost Odyssey it's such a great game and has absolutely gone over loads of people's heads
Legend of dragoon,parasite eve,earthbound,star ocean,grandia,ff 1 to 9 plus tactics,chrono trigger,secret of mana,secret of evermore etc etc the good days of turn based rpg's.
You're back man, its absolutely great news! Cover on xeno was awesome, this is a long awaited review on the game that was strangely forgotten. Please don't disappear for too much. Your collegue - musician, rock-metal vocalist from Belarus.
PS: Maybe Last story next? Or...mmm...Kiseki?
This game is such a beautiful piece of work! I really hope we get a 4k reboot! The text portions, the music, the voice acting is all so emotionally charged and well executed! Replaying now and the 1st memory made me tear up even to this day! Such a gem of an rpg
Last year I was standing in line at a GameStop.
Waiting.
The dude in front of me was trading in a ton of games.
While sitting there I notice him pull out a copy of Lost Odyssey.
Case looked brand new.
I said "hey man, can I take a look at that?"
He gives it to me.
It's brand new man. The disc's are immaculate. I feel like it was opened from the wrap and just never got used.
I give it back to him.
Say. That's nice. What a gem to see in public.
He hands it to the employee. He scans it.
Beep.
I ask how much that trade in is worth? Employee says like 2 dollars or some shit.
I look at the dude and say.
"I'll give you 5 bucks for it cash"
He asked the employee to take it off and I stole one of the best games I've ever played for 5 bucks
And also as a fun fact.
I played this game for the first time atleast 6 years after its initial release and when I put it into the 360, it didn't even require any sort of update.
They made the game exactly the way it was suppose to be.
A unicorn
Great video! One of the most overlooked JRPGs of the previous generation.
Fantastic review Mike. I can tell the amount of effort you put into this. Loved the touch of turning those quotes into a Thousand Years of Dreams bit.
It's a shame there are some rough edges on the story side of things. I had to skip the spoiler section, but I still hope to play this through some day. Really hoping for some kind of way to play on PC.
This was such an in-depth review of Lost Odyssey. Even though I am a very big fan of that game, you have taught me so much more about it than I ever knew. You've also made the game feel more special and dear to me. Huge thumbs up and sub
I've missed your retrospective reviews. Thanks for putting out so much work. It's so appreciated
This is a very nice review of the game and I appreciate you going in depth with it. I agree with many of your points with the story I do wish that it’s focus was more on the philosophical points of being immortal as I do see the untapped potential. However, I see you were not of fan of Jansen and I will argue that in the ideal story I do believe he would have been an essential comic relief character as in the story we received, he truly made me laugh so many times which kept the emotions of the overall experience pretty vivid rather than flat sad or happy. I will admit there were too many characters that did make the story a bit more lighter than it should have been (I’m not too big of a fan of Kaim’s grandchildren having a major part of the story) but I feel like just looking at Jansen, I would be surprised if you say that all of his dialogue was cringe and not very humorous. I feel like it was a really nice touch to have such a comic relief character in a emotional story and well really atmosphere as that was nailed down from the music and the thousand years of dreams stories. I do agree the villains are not the greatest and there were a couple of characters that blurred the focus but I definitely did love Jansen’s role in the story and as a comic relief character. I could not imagine this game without him in it
How you uncover these stories behind the story is beyond me..i love it. This is journalism 👏
Bring this to the Nintendo Switch it would sell like cake. !!!
I'll say it again, this needs a PC Port. So many memories from this game that is essentially lost in time for me since I no longer own an Xbox 360. Its tempting enough to buy an entire console just for this game. Awesome review Mike, always love how in-depth you go into the history of the game development, its a step that most gamers don't see but it really shows the miracle these games were able to pull off. Thank God Woolsey didn't translate this.
Always good to see you in the comments, man! Thanks for watching.
One of the first JRPGs I ever played, since I had only an X360 at the time. I remember enjoying the cast, writing, and of course the music. But stumbling upon the dreams is what still sticks in my memory the most. That was when I really felt the immense heart of Lost Odyssey. Love this game. The soundtrack will always make me recall a memory locked deep within my heart.
Love your videos. Good to know there's other jrpg fans out there that still appreciate storytelling, music, and design more than just graphics. Lost Odyssey is a great game that was overlooked by many. Glad to see it's being looked back on with some admiration.
All my favorites were behind this game; Takehiko Inoue, who inspires me as an artist, Nobuo Uematsu, the best VG composer and Sakaguchi, who made me love jrpgs in the first place.Yet I haven't played this game... In fact, I'd forgotten about it until I saw this video. I never understood why Sakaguchi stayed away from Sony, he made games for Xbox and Wii...I got the answer from this video. And as always, you explored the game so well, you satisfied my curiosity and made a very enjoyable video. I've enjoyed every minute and I admire the efforts put into making this informative and interesting video.
I absolutely loved this game! It was the last great turn based rpg.
I'm one of those people who bought a 360 for lost odyssey (and then i bought two more because red ring of death - yes really). I had only owned a ps1 and ps2 before because that's where final fantasy was. But i had played through all the final fantasy games i could get my hands on (almost all of them up until 12) and i wanted more. I was pretty new to gaming so i just knew i wanted lost odayssey (which i had found cheap for like 15 bucks at a used games store) and i knew i needed a 360 to play it.
I fucking LOVED that game. Just the intro music still makes me cry. I spent a good 100h on trying to find everything and read all of the dreams. I think lost odyssey is where i discovered what a jrpg could truly be, it's exactly the style of game i like playing. Slow paced, story heavy, pretty, likable characters. Other people play games for the gameplay, my bf won't touch games he doesn't find mechanically challenging. But i don't care about mechanics at all. I need to be able to understand them, yes. But apart from that, I'll fight through any kind of gameplay hassle if i like the story well enough. Thankfully lost odyssey wasn't a fight at all, it was very fun to play, as well as read.
Also, owning a 360 got me into western rpgs. I had only played jrpgs/final fantasy games before but shortly after buying the 360, i found a cheap copy of dragon age:origins and that's when i started expanding my tastes in video games. So lost odyssey being on the 360, while it means a lot of people missed out on it, wasn't a negative for me at all.
Gotta say though, when i last played this i was... 19? And i loved the romance between ming and jansen. I'm 30 now, maybe i need to go back and play it again. I recently re-read a book i read as a teenager and it hit me on a very different emotional level. Maybe that will happen with lost odyssey as well. I'm very much looking forward to experiencing it again as the person i am today.
Amnesia seemed to be everywhere: Manhunt 2, Lost Planet, Bourne Ultimatum, Lost Odyssey, Final Fantasy 8, etc. I wonder why characters with amnesia are in so many games and films 🎮🔫📺📽💻😱
Just beat it tonight with 100% completion! This is my favorite video from you yet Resonant Arc
Nice, well done. I'm about to start it very soon, can't wait. I miss old soon rpgs:)
A Switch and PC port of this game would do it justice.
I'm playing it for the third time now. I bought it day one and this game is "aging" (by comparison to games and JRPGs released since) so well... A real masterpiece and the last game of its kind. The perfect mix of maturity and cheesiness like we can find in Sakaguchi games. The art (music and graphics) take us to the Heaven. I also love how the story made Kaïm and other immortals personal esperience resonate with the world state which mixes the experience of both industrial revolution and WWII. Gameplay is a good variation of turn-based system and gets better and better, requiring careful management even if some action-addicts do not like it. Definitively on my top 3 of the best games ever and I started video games in 1994. I really wished this game started the "Final Fantasy" of Microsoft.
As for the topic, I don't get why people are frustrated about Kaïm and dreams. Kaïm is not really important in dreams as characters personal journey is not the most important part of the story. Dreams are more important as they contribute to the whole message. I see Kaïm more as an witness and observer in the game and dreams. I really felt like Gothza destruction was a reminescence of Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings.
So yeah this game was made by a Dream Team and is actually a Dream Game.
I do believe a person would get sick but as we know humans psyche evolve constanly so depending on the person they will adapt meaning that they will either grow up or become insane on both good or bad ways
We are freaking lucky Lost Odyssey even got made and released, beautiful game and experience
Jansen was very popular when this game came out. I guess it was just funny back then.
I found Jansen rather annoying at first, but around end of disc 1 he actually grew to become my fav character
I just found this channel. I don’t understand why every RPG fan isn’t subbed.
They definitely need to remaster this game. AAA Truly hidden gem
Super cringe
@@jarredlucas4000 ?
I remember diving *deep* into these Resonant Arc retrospective reviews a few years back. To see the creativity and passion continue to show all these years later is so incredibly cool, even as lurking fan.
Game is awesome. My Xbox 360 red ringed like 25 hrs into this game. I can still see the screen and myself sitting there staring in disbelief. It was like having my crack and heroin taken away at the same time
35:10 Finally someone who miss overworld map like me. ;)
Okay okay okay, I honestly had no idea that Vagabond and Lost Odyssey were connected, and it kinda blows my mind because I love them both and it's really cool.
It's a shame both have issues now, what with Vagabond being on hiatus in 2015 and Mistwalker claiming they don't want to remaster Lost Odyssey meaning we'll probably never see it come off of the Xbox 360 and become playable elsewhere.
I had actually forgotten about this game until I saw the thumbnail, and then got whammed in the feels with memories of music, combat, characters (Seth) and how graphically beautiful I thought it was! What a game!
I hope we get Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey on PC in the near future. Having updated version on consoles would be brilliant as well.
Great video! FFX was the first FF game I ever played to completion, and when I found out about Lost Odyssey on a podcast, I became very interested in playing it. I had a PS3 and a Wii U, but no Xbox to play the game on. I decided to buy a used copy of Lost Odyssey anyway and borrow my brother's Xbox to play it. It was definitely worth the hassle. It really took me back to the fun I had playing FFX on my PS2, but also managed to be it's own fresh unique experience at the same time. I really wish Mistwalker would re-release Lost Odyssey and Last Story on Switch and Steam for gamers who missed out on those games back when they originally released, they're both a lot of fun.
I learned to love gaming music because of this man. He changed my life with his unmatched talent. Thank you good Sir, from the bottom of my heart.
Man for whatever reason I effin loved the voice acting and character moments in this game. Jansen is such a joy to experience and I was totally into the romance. But yeah the overall story is pretty weak. An utter classic of a game despite that. Amazing package.
This is one of my favorite games of all time.
An under-appreciated classic. It cleverly solved a lot of the classic JRPG formulaic grindy gameplay while also managing to have a really engaging and meaningful plot with very memorable characters. I love this game.
Damn, that's some good timing. I just finished this game for the first time like 4-5 days ago. Looking forward to watching this!
This one really stuck with me ever since playing it shortly after it released on the 360. Probably my favorite RPG of the last decade or so. I wish there would be some updated port to Steam or something so I could replay it or get my friends to experience it for the first time!
19:13 - jay rubin’s translations of Haruki Murakami 🤩
You referenced the CT dream team as I was thinking about it. Lost odyssey was such an incredibly underrated sleeper jrpg imo.
I love Nobuo's reason as to why he left square. Good for him
This game NEEDS a PC port. I bet there are tons of ppl just waiting to play this game.
Amazing review, as always.
(02:25) NICE banding bruh!
Ken vs Sakaguchi was not something I expected.
I have big respect for both men.
I love this game & I still play it. It’s amazing that this game ran on the 360. It’s not surprising it takes up over 20GB when downloaded & comes on 4 discs with the physical release though. It’s a truly beautiful game both visually & sonically.
Lost Odyssey was a great game, overlooked because it came out on the Xbox 360, which did not have many RPGs on it. Lots of great moments, though it does drag on in the third quarter of the game.
Amazing video as always
Mistwalker has a new game out on Apple Arcade. It feels like a spiritual successor in some ways, it’s a very interesting diorama based JRPG called “FANTASIAN.”
Such a great little game, shame it’s only available on Apple Arcade I think.
This game was so good. I didn't have as much of a problem with the story as you did, but I absolutely get your points.
Another brilliant video man , ive never played this game but man i wish i could ! Appreciate the work and effort u put it in to these vids 👍
Loved this game. The side stories you find are so damn emotional and good.
About the major themes, there was a story in Sandman very similair. A guy from the Middle Ages is offered eternal life by Death until he gets tired and is allowed to die. He lived through many ages and grew acustomed to the change, never asking for his life to be taken
I wish I had a way to play this game. When it came out I was too young to appreciate it.
Wow...it’s been a while!...*sees that you have done a video on Lost Odyssey...
Me: Ahhh....now I know why....
Such a masterpiece of a game.
Also, reading the in-game stories to Uematsu's music at the same time... magical
Square enix is a SHELL of what it used to be. He probably forsaw many major changes in the game development industry as well the innovative tech slowly taking over and just basically wanted to pursue his own thing and keep his games more grounded to his generation of when he was a creative director back in the heydays of Square soft. Regarding Lost Odyssey, it was a very immportant historical game in my opinion because it used conventional and traditional elements of jrpgs in an era where turn-based mechanics, over worlds, etc started to decline and with the changing of generations, graphics started to go full CGI and more like film. Where as Lost Oddysey was probably one of the last games to incorporate modern graphical tech well still evolving the old traditional elements jrpgs such as over world. The overworld in lost oddysey was full of detail, sheer scale, dimension and depth and far above its time when you factor in all previous over world maps and ship travel. Its just a shame that the industry chose to go the apposite way with CGI and film like graphics and over worlds slowly started to go away. Its where I can honsetly say that lost oddsey was like peeking into the future JRPG development of what It could have been but unfortantly games were not innovated in that direction.
I'm playing it right now on one X. Was grinding on numeral toll and leveled up to level 48. Missed this game!
Interesting and well done review. I was laughing out loud during the comical sequences. The story on Hironobu Sakaguchi and Nobuo Uematsu was also really interesting. I thought your exploration of traversing world maps was interesting. It reminded me of how cool it was to use a submarine in FFVII to explore the depths of that world. I especially enjoyed you talking about how this is the direction that Final Fantasy could have gone if Hironobu Sakaguchi stayed. Its a good aspect to bring up because creating detailed open worlds to serve a story is very difficult and takes a tremendous amount of time. I do feel that a lot of superfluous content is made that frankly doesn't mean anything to the story but there is something to be said about the satisfaction of creating a well realized world. So, yeah, I'd opt for a combination of the two. Unless you make a really small world how on earth would you make an ENTIRE WORLD where everything is meaningful in even 5 years of development. This is why in real life we use maps to help us traverse the world. The detail of your immortal characters getting back up after being KOed for a while is great. I mean you'd think that if you are playing immortal characters that can't die then gameplay wise it'd be like putting on the invincibility cheat without it breaking the story. But then I guess there would be no challenge, huh. Sounds like there is a lot of stuff to do in the game. Definitely made me interested in playing the game even if it isn't perfect. So, the Last Story is next, right?
32:40 Oh God I'm dying! That was funny as hell!