Follow-up to | Why I returned my EGO Twin Blade for a Honda Mower. LM2135SP to HRX217HYA
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- Опубликовано: 17 май 2021
- This is a follow up video where I discuss if gas is better than the new EGO lawnmower. EGO is a great lawn mower, but it's not the best when it comes to performance.
Going from a POWER+ 21" SELECT CUT™ MOWER LM2135SP to a Honda Twin Blade HRX217HYA . 
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This video needs more views! I purchased the Top of the line Ego with the 10ah battery to mow my front lawn and it bogged down 4 times trying to mulch the grass and battery died right before I finished. Brought it back to Lowes the same day.
Hi Chris,
Thanks for this great review. I was on the fence with getting the EGo after someone stole my beloved HRX217. I thought about the EGo but I decided that nothing could replace the HRX217 but another HRX217 so I got the new one, sitting in a box and ready for my unboxing video in a couple of weeks.😁
I was having some regrets about not giving electric a shot and then coming across this video really helped confirm that I made the right choice.
I also got some nice handlebar tape and an hourmeter tachometer module. These were the two things I missed after 10 years of using my old HRX217 190, which ran beautifully and sipped gas, it was the top of the electric start but you had to charge the battery, the new one recharges from the engine which was my only issue with the old one, otherwise never a problem with that mower, it will last you a lifetime if you take care of it.
Funny thing I bought those metal guards sets too for the old one but I never installed them because I was afraid to drill the deck back then but seeing them on your mower, they actually look really nice. The first mower I've seen them on installed.
The tape on the handlebar is something I thought about for years on the old one because the metal to metal hitting chips the paint and mine had rust there all the time, so not just the comfort factor.
But yeah, don't know why they still didn't address that on the new 200 cc models. That's why I bought it with this new one from the get go. The HRX does have the nice ball bearing 9 inch wheels, it's the little things...☺, but you're right, it's a pain to fight the transmission when pushing it or pulling it back without power, they really should have a hydrogear disconnect like a tractor, after all it really is built like one.
Overall, nobody makes anything better, that mower is in it's own class. After 10 years of use that nexite deck never cracked and it was used on rough ground and I frequently had to mow 3 acres of grass with it when my tractor was down for whatever reason over the years, it was my combination trimmer as well a full backup. A legacy from living in the burbs but here I am getting another one because nothing sucks leaves and debris better or cuts better than that. You're gonna love it. No regrets.
I'll be having a whole bunch of videos about it on my channel soon. Definitely subbed you as you have the same ideas on this mower as me.😁
One question, how is the Auto Choke?, mine, the 190, had the regular manual choke, which I liked but the new one is automatic, which I know nothing about but I hope it's not crap.
Cheers
Greg😎
I bought the LM2156SP and it powers through dense grass as well as running for 75 minutes. I run the mulching blade and it leaves almost no clippings on the surface. It performs much better than my Craftsman with a Briggs engine.
Agree. They are shipping now with the mulching blade standard. I think their customer feedback is like yours, so they are going with it as a mulching mower as the standard setup (they still give you a bagger and the high lift blade set in the box).
This should help IF it doesn't slow down the blade due to low resistance. I think that is the othe problem, to make battery last, most of these electrics have programming to reduce blade rpm when load (thickness of what is being cut) is less. Mowing over leaves is very low resistance (usually, unless super wet) and thus if the blade slows down, suction drops and bagging leaves becomes...troublesome.
With this high lift blade, can you now bag leaves? That was a big complaint (one of the few) with Ego mowers as I read reviews yesterday.
@@GrappIer Another big issue with electric/battery mowers they NEVER tell you about. You're gonna save money every year, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, until you gotta buy a brand specific battery with enough amp-hours to mow for at least 30 minutes and it costs you more than a new Toro or low end Honda mower. Nuts.
I’d like to have an Ego trimmer and blower, but I won’t be giving up my Honda mower anytime soon! It was great to hear/see your thoughts on the Ego vs Honda.
Now that you have the best mower you need to improve your lawn a little.
Almost bought EGO but decided to go with a Honda HRX 217 HYA. I was lucky enough to find a dealer that has many in inventory.
Great buy. Absolutely the right move. That Honda will last you forever. Great power too. Beat the living shit outta it, the thing won’t break.
Chris - one of the best side-by-side gas vs. electric reviews...warts and all after eating humble pie and returning the EGO,
I have an older HRX217 and was considering the EGO, but their customer service gets VERY poor reviews and there are few EGO service centers for repairs. The biggest factor, however, is the battery degradation over time. $300 to $500 for a battery replacement every 3 years or so is more than the gas and oil used during that period. The EGO mower has its place, but it is not for everyone, as you point out.
LM2156SP. That's the EGO mower. 8.3 lbs ft tq.comes with 10ah batt and 700watt charger. Also has twin blade cut and comes with 3 blades - hi lift for bagging - mulching - efficiency.
nobody mentions that the Ego can fold up and be hung on the wall no problem. Try that with a gas mower. How much space in the garage does that Honda gobble up?
Got a used Honda 6 yrs ago. Works like a charm every time. I changed Oil, filter and blades once. I should be better at that. But not a single problem. Cuts perfectly, strong suction power. Bought a new Greenworks 80v to go green but now questioning do I really need electric ?
I have been trying to decide whether to buy a battery or gas mower for about two months. I really wanted to try a Ryobi but the blades are a little flimsy and I worry about if it hits something it might not hold up like a gas mower blade. And some times I let my lawn go and it gets pretty tall I a battery mower battery might run down before the yard is finished. Anyway I think I will probably go with another gas mower basically for all the reasons you mentioned. For the price of a extra battery I can buy a lot of gas. Thanks for the video and the advice I received from watching it. Have a good summer and stay safe.
Problem with gas mower is the needs for regular maintenance.
I have no skill in basic maintenance nor services near my home.
Electric mower requires no motor maintenance, just the blade, which is a simple task.
Go with an ego select cut, if you haven't already. Things a beast plus you're buying into the best rated battery platform for lawn equipment.
@@madsam0320 changing the oil once every other year (or every year if really conservative) is hardly "regular" maintenance. You tap the dust out of the air filter every 3 or 4 mows and replace it every other year. Blade sharpening? Both gas and electric demand that, so not part of gas powered cons. Add in obscene costs of lithium battery modules and battery powered electrics are still many years away from being practical for most of us.
I am in a similar situation. Had owned a hhr216 and loved it then wanted to go electric Ego select cut xp (double blade), have been using for 3 months fine and then 2 weeks ago the self propeller failed. Ego had me bring it to Lowes for repair and it’s been a nightmare in terms of following repair status and hassle with downtime. I am thinking of going honda hrn216 once the Ego is repaired and will sell it.
I've been switching back and forth between Honda and Ego. I own Ego trimmer, edger, and blower with two 2.5ah batteries. I love the products! Super quiet and easy to work with. However, I just can't get myself into an electric lawnmower. Batteries will eventually need to be replaced and they are not cheap. I don't think the light weight of the ego will mix well with an uneven lawn. And if something goes wrong with the mower I don't feel much shops can do much to fix these electric mowers.
There is something about pulling the cord of a gas mower and smelling those fumes that makes mowing a lawn enjoyable.
yep, I have spent roughly $130 over the past 10 YEARS in gas, oil and air filters (1/5 acre, 2.2 gallons or so covers my whole mowing season each year so maybe $8/year in gas on average past 10 years). There is no chance electric is cheaper if I have to buy a $400 battery once during that 10 years, and include maybe $40-$50 in electric bill cost (over 10 years) to recharge the batteries (and I am being reasonable, it's not free to charge, but cheaper than gas) and suddenly I am spending $60/year more to operate an electric lawn mower over 10 years. That's not what I have been told by all these reviews, the low maintenance is true, but cost is still more and maintenance for me is 15 minutes to change the oil every OTHER year and 5 minutes once a month to open air filter housing, grab filter, tap it on the ground and replace it. So I put in maybe 1 hour a year in maintenance time. This year it was more like 5 hours as I, after 10 years, finally remove the head and cleaned off some carbon buildup and replaced spark plug first time (didn't need it, but I did anyway).
I think electric, as far as saving money, is still years away, maybe the next battery technology after lithium? The cost of lithium keeps going up thanks to more electric stuff needing more batteries. Batteries for a mower you buy this year, may well be $600 or $700 in 5 years and not the current $450 for this admittedly nice, 10 amp/hour battery. It won't go down in price, though neither will gasoline (it will drop down to $3/gallon again, but I also expect to see it hit $6 here at some point in next 5 years as well). I know in some overtaxed states it's at $6/gallon already, but its just over $4/gallon here in Atlanta, GA, and topped out about $4.50 in my area about two months ago.
✔I'm battling myself over this decision. My last mower was a mid60's Snapper Comet 30" But the new place has too small of a lawn for that. And tho the man is great, our mower has left me for 3 weeks now -- I need some trim...wait, to get clipped...I got 6" zoyzia!
Gotta say, I've lost all of my family to cancer. The smell of the fumes has done ¹ lost its appeal some time back.
¹ a 'Southernism'
Lol! Even at 25$/gal.. gas is way, way, way ahead. A 5amphour 56v ego battery is over 600$cdn . ELECTRIC IS NOT CHEAPER TO OWN. I just bought a GUILT FREE GAS MOWER for 250.00$.
nice review it really help for the buyer tochoose which is better keep sharing stay connected
I got an Ego Select cut this week. So far very impressed. I have had a Honda for about 4 years. Almost always started on the first pull even after storage. However.. and this is a big one. Almost Always had issues with grass strips being left, so was very disappointed. This issue is expressed all over the web. Will see if the Ego has the same issue. I never had this problem with Cheap single blade mowers. Others may have different experience, but I only know my experience.
Did you figure out the strips? Better w/Ego?
I have this ego mower . My old mower was a snapper hi vac mower . Had it for just over 40 years . Never had any problems with it until it finally just died . I’m very sure the ego will never last 40 plus years . I’m sure the ego battery will probably not last as long as the warranty . The snapper mower did a very good job hard to beat .
I hear ya man! I got a Husqavarna AWD mower and I won't let that thing go. Its time to Redo the motor as its starting to smoke, but its cheaper to just buy a new motor to re-power it then do a rebuild.
I got a LOT of Hilly terrain and it works great for that when I put on Rubber bike tires to it.
The other thing? I need to get a Speed control for it and this year a Super High lift quad blade if I can. I use it to pick up leaves and it does a great job at that.
Great review. I tried an electric Ego recently. Very enjoyable cutting experience. The lightweight mower was a dream to push(and reverse). However, my lawn is a bit uneven and the mower was bouncing all over the place. The Ego motor died on me numerous times during the cut, as soon as it hit thicker patches of grass. Now, it's nothing to start back up but it was annoying. I bought a Honda HRX mower and took back the Ego. The Honda was about the same price as the Ego Select Cut, too. For me, the deciding factor was having friends with battery issues on the Ego...even two years into Ego ownership. So many have had failed batteries and it might take more than a week to get them in from Ego on warranty. That's downtime for mowing(less a problem if you buy additional batteries...but then your costs go up considerably). Also, the self propelled mechanism on the Ego just felt too cheap to me. There's not much to go wrong on a gas engine either...Oil, air filter, and spark plug(the Honda does have a choke actuator need for replacement from time to time). It was a tough decision for me to return it and get another gas model. My junky MTD push mower is 12 years and I never did anything to it but change out wheels and change out oil every few years. It goes through 7 gallons of gas per mowing season. Even if gas were 4.50/gallon, that's only 31.50/yr in gas. Much cheaper than a new Ego battery every 5 years. That thing can run over trees or big branches and keep going. I'd be afraid to try that with the Ego. It's a tradeoff, though. A mix of mowing ease, convenience, and cost.
Did the exact same thing got the ego mower, returned it for the Honda gas mower. Have ego blower and trimmer and love them but I’ve enjoyed this new Honda mower instantly over the ego.
@@limes2160 Honda announced they'll no longer make gas mower engines after 2023. You scored well then. The Honda should last you a long time. I guess the greed got to them and they couldn't stand by while everyone else kept selling more battery replacements.
Maybe Honda finally decided to care a bit more about the air we breathe with their decision!
@@lloydnicholas Sure. I'm sure that's it. LOL!
I have been using an EGO mower for about three years now and I’m switching back to gas. Just ordered a new Honda mower. I was never really happy with the quality of cut from my EGO mower.
You’re not alone.
I am 100% in agreement with Chris. There are so many reasons not to go with a gas mower. That being said I have not yet seen an electric mower have the power, suction and durability of a high quality gas mower. I got rid of my Ego and replaced it with an HRX217HYA and could not be happier. I hate doing the oil changes and the challenges of fuel, but the Ego could not mulch through tall and tough StAug like the Honda can.
I am committed to the Ego-revolution. I run all of my smaller tools (edger, trimmer, chain saw, blower) with Ego and can't imagine a better product. I'm sure that any current gaps will be closed on the mower side...but I can't say that we have reached there yet. Maybe in a few more years.
I LOVE THE HRX217HYA I have the same mower. Hopefully a electric contender comes along to take it's crown. I will be sad when it happens7 , but Electric is the way of the future.
@@Mr-Chris ...yes great mower. My biggest challenge with the Ego was not simply power or torque, it just did not have enough lift. My StAug is tall and thick and without stron g lift it will not work. I was having to mow my lawn twice with the Ego in particularly thick and dense areas.
Another thing I've noticed is the blade on the Ego is much lighter. I think it has to be to work well in an electric mower. That said, I was constantly having to sharpen it because it is so thin and the metal was very soft. I have not found this to be an issue on the Honda since the blade is heavier and seems to be stronger. I must admit that due to the Honda mower weight, sharpening the blade is more work that simply tipping over the lightweight Ego...however I would rather just have to sharpen less.
I encourage folks to go Ego if their grass type and needs fit it. I lived in Colorado where the winter grass was not significantly challenging to mow and the Ego excelled. When I moved to Texas with much denser St. Aug, it just could not cut it as well. Sometimes in these Ego vs. Gasoline Mower debates, we are simply not on an even comparative and a lot of it has to do with what our cultivar is and how much volume of grass needs to be cut and then mulched.
Also...thanks for all of the tips to 'bling out' the HRX. I've taken them all and they are now on my mower as well. The mower deck guards were a great add. It would have been better for Honda to just install these out of the box, but...whatever.
Just got an LM2142SP. Love it. But I will be keeping my Honda HRXHYA 21 in. It's like our car situation MB 350GLE and Telsa Model 3. Some of the best products on the market with different pros/cons. In 5 or 10 years I believe we'll be looking at all electric. But I feel good about helping push Electric when I see the value proposition EGO offers today.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Just bought a Honda HRN. What trimmer and blower is in contention with ego or better than ego for a residential use ?
I've had a Poulan Pro gas lawnmower with a Honda engine for 24 years. It mulches and moss great an is still going strong. About 2 years ago I bought an Ego lawnmower. I love how easy it is to use and is a pleasure to use. BUT, IT just doesn't mulch well at all and leaves my lawn uneven. I didn't return the Ego and I still.use it for weekly mowing but I kept my Poulan Pro and use it for the first few moss of the season and in the fall when I need to mulch leaves. I like the ease of using my Ego but I have to sacrifice cut quality for convenience and I highly doubt it will last 24 years plus. I doubt it will last 10. Obviously the battery won't and when the battery fails, it's more cost effective to buy a whole new mower.
It’s awesome that you’ve used both gas and electric. Using the ego push button for self propelled did your hands get numb after a while? With regards to cut quality of ego vs gas my neighbour has an ego. The cut doesn’t look good almost as if he should of made a bunch of second passes. Did you have an issue with cut quality with the ego?
I’ve owned Honda and snapper mowers my entire life. I also own a business and the battery power tool industry was a game changer. I have 1/3 acre lawn so I decided to purchase the latest Ego mower. While it’s not a gas mower I can say that mowing my lawn became easier. For the lawn I have I wouldn’t go back to a gas mower.
I’m sold on the ego!
Try out the Makita XGT (commercial grade) lawn mower. Easily beats the Ego and cut quality (with 4 swing back blades) up there with a HONDA. 3200rpm but also has the torque to keep the rpm high under load.
Yes, I've seen sone Makita mower videos, especially from Australia for some reason, but they look promising. I hope their batteries last more than 5 years
@@Mr-Chris I bought the Makita 40v MAX XGT 480mm (19 inch) is Australia 3 weeks ago. Registering the tools with Makita gives me 5 year warranty. The batteries have a fixed 3 year warranty. I am new to Makita tools but i loves the build quality. Batteries are hefty in weight but they are 36v nominal 5 and 8 ah that i have. Has cooling on charger. I use two 8ah's in mower but only needs 1 and auto swaps if it dies. The ability for XGT to communicate between tool/charger/battery, means optimal discharge/recharge.
If the battery does fail i'll try to remember to let you know.
Hi can think of a lot better things to tinker with then gas lawn mowers I think that ego have got it right and lovin it all
I thought I'd go green and bought an EGO mower, but I was disappointed. I live in Central Florida, and this time of the year it rains nearly every day, so the grass (St. Augustine for me) grows pretty tall. The EGO just couldn't handle the tall grass and after mowing, it looked like a blind barber's haircut. I returned the EGO and stayed with my Honda HRR216.
I'm doing the opposite. I'm going to sell my Honda Mower for peanuts, and I just bought an EGO Select Cut XP.
Have here a 1 acre lot. About 3/5th's is lawn when you take out house, sheds and small treed areias.
The only flat spot is in the house and sheds and the driveway I made with fill.
Have a 28 degree grade hill whhich is over 70 feet long to get to the upper part of the lot which constitutes about half the acreage.
These electric units would not stand a chance as I have already blown through a Toro Personal Pace that now would need a second conditioning of wheels and gears.
Not a chance.
The hydrostat transmission is the only way to go for lots with variable hilly terrain.
Gas power here and the added expense FAR outweighs the advantage.
Electric is for those with postage size lots that are as flat as the earth. (Did y'all catch that dig!!!)
Cheers.
People tend to be like Apple fanboys when it comes to Ego. No less than Tesla lovers. They’ll justify any flaw by grabbing at any straws they can, or just repeat the same stuff they read someone else say.
That doesn’t mean they make a bad product, or at least that not all their products are bad, but in turn not all of what they do is great. In ego’s case, if you care about cut quality, dependability, and being able to have your product repaired, good luck with Ego.
I had their first dual battery mower after having a good experience with their string trimmer. The darn thing was $750 bucks at the time. In a year the thing died and needed to be replaced which took a good few months. The cut quality was never as good as my original gas.
I like you went with an hrx217, I only run ethanol free gas so I have zero issues firing up after the winter. The oil change took 10 minutes in the beginning of the year. Other than that, I fill the gas and sharpen the blade. The latter of which needs to be done on an ego too.
Even the the big green machine (commercial grade) electric mowers suffer from a lot of the same issues. I was more than willing to drop 2.5k on an all electric option if could deliver the cut quality and run time of gas. It doesn’t exist yet. It’s not that it couldn’t, but you would probably need way more batteries and a way more powerful electric motor than what a consumer would be willing to pay for.
All that said, when it comes to electric, going for award, I’m going with STIHL. They have dealers all over, way more attachments, and for mowing, I’ll stick with gas until a more established commercial grade company starts going all in with battery.
Finally, anyone who starts a comment with “ my crasftsman…” can just stop. You’re comparing a bottom barrel brand to true Honda mower. They’re not in the same league. No even if it had a Honda engine, still not the same.
I bought an Ego Select Cut XP LM2150 which is more powerful than the LM2135SP, I’ve never had it bog down on me and I’ve taken it through some nasty thick grass and weeds. The only thing I don’t like is the lack of a well designed side discharge. I bought it used pretty cheap though. I just bought for a great price a Greenworks 80v self propelled mower, a few have tested vs Ego and it’s more powerful than Ego mowers and has a proper side discharge. I’ll see how it works and compares to my Ego. There’s also a brand new even more powerful Ego out with a 22inch aluminum deck but for $1200 there’s NO way I’m spending that much.
I have a medium sized yard. I replaced my Snapper w/ Ninja blades with an EGO lawn mower (7.5 Amp battery) 4 years ago. I can mow my yard easily on one charge. I bag since it doesn't mulch all that well. The new mowers look much improved. Since it has lights I mow at night during the summer when it's much cooler outside. I can wear headphones without cranking up the music. There is no maintenance. It starts every time. My mower can't be washed or get too wet. Definitely pro/cons when replacing gas with electric.
electric mowers still generate 70-80 dB noise levels. Hopefully you have no nearby neighbors. 10 dB quieter than gas engines, but hardly quiet.
@ovp66223 10 to 20 decibels quieter. Using a sound meter my Snapper ran from 92-96 decibels depending if I was using a bag. My Ego is between 70-74 decibels - higher with the bag on because it opens to the deck
Gas is the reigning and defending mower
Man, you are killing me. I was set on a ego select cut XP (new version with 10 mAh battery) but something about the cut quality of cordless lawn mowers. Have you tried any other cordless mowers since this video?
Nope, Once I switched to Honda I haven't wanted to try anything else. One of my neighbors has the newer 10AH Ego mower and during the Fall he still had to blow & rake his leaves since the Ego mower couldn't mulch them well. Meanwhile I was able to mulch mines easily.
As someone who's owned battery powered outdoor equipment for many years, buying $300-500 replacement battery packs gets old quickly. Expect to replace them every 3-5 years. Battery powered equipment is also impractical for larger lots and most commercial businesses.
The 2156 is a game changer - alot more torque, bigger battery. The 10AH battery seems to be alot more reliable than the 7.5 ah - I think those were a poor design and lots of issues with them.
Bro, ik this is not the right video but that p500a comes with the 3 stock fans in front, and is it worth thinking about p600s or p500a with rtx 3080
watching here
100% agree - ego is the best electric lawnmower... and the quality of cut especially on high mower settings like needed for TTTF is not as good. I have been using it for 3 years and settled on a high lift blade as the best solution (but now it doesn't mulch as well)... but going to switch back to gas soon. I will probably keep my ego for manhandling on a steep hillside.
I'm a diy er. I prefer ego. I've been dealing with gas and all the problems you get for 20 years. No more.
I'm taking mine back...Lowe's sold me a 2 year old mower and 7.5 ah battery...the 5 ah battery I got for free with the deal runs longer than the 7.5...i was impressed with the capability of the ego but gas still is better for me personally...I do other yards besides my own 2 of which have really thick dense grass and it just kills the ego batteries even on highest height setting...mulching...side discharge doesn't matter and the side discharge on the ego is HORRIBLE
Hey have you compared the EGO LM2150SP OR LM2156SP? This Lawn mower has more torque than the EGO LM2135SP that you are using.
Your lawnmower is not the latest from Ego which I just purchased. The new LM2156sp which has 8.3 lbs of torque vs 7.0 for the LM2135sp and also comes with a 10 amp battery. I’ve been cutting some pretty thick Bermuda grass without any problem. I also have a Honda which I’m sure has more power than the Ego but the light weight of the Ego and less maintenance makes it a winner for me.
Yes, the newer EGO mower has a bigger 10AH battery and strong motor than the one I had. The problem with EGO or any other battery powered mower is the inherit handicap of power balance. Every battery powered lawn mower runs at a lower, yet more power efficient RPM speed with a thinner/lighter cutting blade/s to save electricity. Many battery powered mowers speed up retroactively after feeling cutting resistance. Where as All gas mowers run at the same speed with thicker heaver blade/s no matter what. This gives Gas mowers superior suction and cutting performance. I can't wait until electric powered mowers completely outperform gas. I think it's the way to go for our future.
The 10 amp is also $100 more. I just bought the LM2135sp, my lot is only .19 ac but just hope this mulches well enough. Wish me luck...
@@say1706n how’s your ego working out for you and what type of grass do you have?
@@GearGlance I live in Pennsylvania and think it's mostly fescue and ryegrass but I have weeds and a creeping Jenny problem that I need to take care of. So it has to cut through that too if that makes a difference. Overall I'm basically satisfied. I don't believe it can quite match the raw power of a good gas mower which I could have easily bought for the $560 or so I spend on the EGO. However I have some chemical sensitivity so the less pollution I can breath the better. That and no gas/oil, virtually soundless while wearing noise canceling headphones and feeling kinda guilty for living in a house by myself tilted the scales to going to battery power.
i am a proud owner of honda harmony with hydrostatic transmission - i love it but last week i purchased an ego select cut xp mower with 8.3 ft-lbs of torque. as i was cutting my grass the ego sucked up a round hard plastic irrigation cover valve and completely destroyed in several pieces. this machine is a vacuum monster with the bagging blades i installed.
my honda maybe is getting old like me! i love to use it at dusk (here down in texas is hot during the day) using my headlights 💡 😃
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i enjoy all reviews and comments - thanx
Wait until you have to replace that EGO 56-Volt 7.5 Ah battery at $349. I have a small 1/4 acre lawn. The ego could never finish on a single charge. The power is not near as good as a gas mower. I wouldn't even use the word close. It is light but that is not the main thing you buy a lawn mower for. For me Honda gas mowers are the way to go.
I agree with you about ego power tools. I have the weed eater, edger, and blower and they are fantastic. This is the area where battery powered tools shine. Lawn mowers have more work to be done before they are there. Good review Chris!
My one fear is twice the cost in the long run. If battery gets weaker (shorter charge) in 4 or 5 years and I am forced to buy a new one, it's nearly the cost of a new mower entirely. I currently have a Toro PP/SP, 2011 model, and I have probably spent about $7/yr in gas. It takes just under 2.5 gallons to mow once a week from early April to early October. One 2.5 gallon container all cutting season with maybe 1/4 gallon left over. Average gas prices since 2011 guessing about $3.30 a gallon (some times down near 2, mostly around 3 and sometimes, like now, up around 4/gallon). So I have spent, roughly $70 - $80 in gas over 10 years. I have also changed the oil 5 times (every other year, just wasn't dirty enough) and at less than 1 qt needed, and maybe avg $4.00 a quart, that's another $20 or so. Add in two air filters and not much else (well just changed spark plug first time, $5) and I am at roughly $100 in fuel, oil and filter costs over 10 years.
A new EGO battery is over $400. Even if I needed a new engine, I can find them online for $200 - $300 dollars and its just a few bolts to replace it.
If gas shoots up to $10/gallon and stays there, then electric makes sense, or if you have a rather large yard (1/2 acre or so). That said, if you had a 1/2 acre and mowed it once a week like my HOA demands, you'd probably need to replace the battery in 4-6 years. Now, if the warranty gives you a FREE replacement in those 5 years, cool, but if its like automotive, prorated, shipping cost, it might not be worth much towards a $400 battery replacement.
Right now, gas it cheaper to operate for most folks, when you factor in one battery replacement over 10 years (and 10 years should be a reasonable longevity of a lawn mower). Thats almost the cost of a new lawn mower. So for $599 and another $450 and maybe $50 in electric bills over 10 years (to recharge the batteries), I would be looking at $1100 for electric mowing costs. I'd be looking at $499 (for a good Toro), or $599 Honda, $120 in gas (lets say it avg's $6.5/gallon over next 10 years), $30 in oil and maybe $30 in air filters (maybe 3 needed), and I am looking at $680 - $800 to operate a good SP gas mower. I just don't see the savings...for my smallish yard (1/5 acre). Less maintenance, but for me changing oil is all of a 10 minute ordeal every other year...nothing. Both would need to sharpen blades, so that's negated. The air filter, 5 minutes to take it out and tap it on the ground every month to knock dust off. Have to change it every 3 years or so.
All valid points. Our HR216 SX Honda Mower is at least 30 years old. Very few repairs and all done by me. It blows the doors of any Cordless and bags wet grass, even on a rainy day. Wouldn't trade it for anything else. The very old HR-214/215/216 Mower s are amazing but the alloy decks do eventually rot out.
For some reason, people think gas costs 200 dollars a year for mowing a yard. I don't get how people come up with such nonsense. I spent about 21 dollars per year on gas for my junk MTD mower. Maybe two spark plugs over a 5 year period. I bought an Ego then returned it the same day. Great mow experience...except that the motor stopped on my numerous times when it hit patches of heavy grass. I can see how older people would love the Ego. It's easy to push and the self-propelled feature was great on my hill...but it ate up battery life like crazy. On my new Honda HRX217, I don't have to to worry about eating up my battery life on the hill.
@@candlewatt You have an HRX217? Which model? Do you recommend it? I am fond of that HCV190 cc sized engine, most others are 140-160 cc and a bit underpowered in my mind.
I am leery of the (admittedly strong) plastic deck and not sure if I should go steady pace hydrostatic or the other normal belt driven self-propelled. I am entertaining a commercial unit (HRC or Bad Boy or Toro), but those all seem a bit heavy (for good reason) and less nimble to toss around as I zig around trees, side of the house, driveway, etc. I want a GOOD gas mower. Battery powered ones too many issues, like stalling or that plastic cooling fan the blade attaches to shattering every year while mowing a pebble.
I killed my beloved Toro Personal Pace engine when I overfilled the oil last year. As a knowledgible gas engine guy, it pains me to say I made such a simple mistake. I had a hart time reading the dipstick. Next time I will simply measure the oil per the manual and put in one once less (assume half ounce or more left in sump even after draining).
@@ovp66223 I got a deal at Lowes on the HRX21K6VKA . However, after a mow with it, it's so heavy that I had to take it back today. I ended up with an Ego LM2135SP . I hated to go to battery, but since Honda announced no more gas engines, I figured in 5 years there will be no more gas mowers. The Ego was half the weight of the Honda and easy to maneuver compared to the Honda. If I didn't live in suburbia, and had a large yard with no obstacles, the Honda would have been a dream. It was heavy to pull back from trees and such. It wore me out. I researched mowers to death and nearly settled on a Craftsman gas mower, 140cc. It was very light but did not have ball bearing wheels. That's a deal breaker for me. I'm 60 and looking for comfort over the greatest cut there is. Honda gave an excellent cut...but it also added 10 minutes to my mow, even over my old MTD mower, due to the weight of the beast. With gas, that mower was over 100 pounds. First cut on the Ego took 35 minutes. My old MTD took 45 minutes. The Honda took 55 minutes.
I just wonder how the Ego compares to a Toro Recycler. I have one of those and do not have any issues with the cut so if it does as well as that I am happy. I was looking between the Ego and the HRX to upgrade but for me I got a very hilly yard and so performance going up hill for the self propelled is major for me. I actually was looking at the timemaster until I saw that it could not go up hills. One thing I really like about the ego is also the ability to quickly adjust the height and given I have warm and cool season grass this is a big time saver.
How do you all feel the ego compares to a lower end gas mower like the recycler?
i got the Toro Recycler with the personal pace and vector suction and love it. got rid of my ego had too many problems with the self propelled
@@sbrodie08 Got a super recycler on the way excited to see how it cuts.
@@zeroibis I think you will be quite happy with the cut. Iam with mine quite the difference from the Ego.
@@sbrodie08 Operating this thing is like cutting on clouds. I never imagined it could be this great. It is like I am cutting grass in heaven. The personal pace system is mind blowing. My first cut was on overgrown wet grass and it cut it better than the recycler does on dry non over grown grass.
Toro far and away better. I am trying to find a replacement engine for my old Toro. Don't give yours up for Ego or any battery powered model and expect equal (much less better) cut quality. Ain't happening. Ego has widely know battery reliability issues and they're EXPENSIVE to replace.
Agreed all the features of electric lawn mower, but only one problem is change the battery every 3-5 years almost 200 -400 dollars!. But Honda lawn mower is for life time with low cost maintenance for a Diy person. Can save lot of money in the long time. Right?
The battery is warrantied for 5 years. So if it did fail in 5 years, they give you another one. That give you a 10 year potential life of batteries. You might want a new mower anyways at that point, as technology marches forward. Second, you don't keep these batteries at a full charge - leave them about 1/2 way down until you need to use it again. They charge so quickly, just put it on the charger the night before if you like to mow early morning. Lithiums don't like to be stored at a high state and that is probably why people complain about them not lasting - they don't understand how these batteries work and thus just abuse them until they die.
I have The new EGO XP, 8.3 lbs of torque... just bagged my super thick yard with no problem. EGO XP has all the power you need.
It’s light and looks badass. Makes mowing fun
The Hydrostatic drive on a Honda will run circles around the Ego. Teaching a young grandson to mow its a no brainer with the Hydrostatic drive. Very adjustable at a very slow speed at a crawl and as he becomes more skilled with the machine he will easily gradually increases the speed. I use nothing but premium fuel as this keeps the carburetor clean with the increased fuel detergents in it. Also nothing but Mobil One oil in the machine. My old JX75 John Deere is going on 25 years now and to this day does not use any engine oil. My Honda HRX with hydrostatic drive is now over two years old and does its job and well. Kept my old John Deere and it still cuts like a champ and one pull start. Many things about the Honda were copied from the JX75. Honda could make their lawn mower even better if they would use a magnesium deck. As for the electric, from the first day one uses it the battery will start to decline in its charge rate. Heard many things about how they help the environment. How does a one mile wide hole by half a mile deep hole in the ground of habitat removed help the environment from Lithium mining ? Does one think the mining machines run on electric current ?
I bought my first honda lawn mower when they first started producing mowers, it was far superior to anything I had ever used. I just bought an $850 ego mower and I'll probably keep it and use it for light cuts,, but my 15 year old Honda lawn mower has much more power. I have a big yard, I would bet a thousand dollars that the ego can't compete with the Honda in adverse conditions like wet grass that's getting out of control. I have only had the ego for a few days so there's a chance that I could be wrong, I've only been cutting grass for about fifty years so I don't know a whole lot.
long term cost is NOT "hands down" for battery power lawnmower. It may be saving money in SOME cases, but not in all and in my case it would cost more unless the battery lasts 8 years before needing replaced.
I posted already, but if (should say, when) you have to buy a new 10Ah battery in say, 3 (high usage) to 7 years (lower usage), that is going to be roughly $500 or more (cost of lithium continues to go UP, not down, due to demand). I spend about $7/year in gas for the whole mowing season, thats like 25 mows (once a week for just over 5 months). I need just one 2.5 gallon container for the whole year and have to put what is left into my car in October. My costs over 10 years with my Toro PP SP mower (2011 model):
$70 in gas (using a $3.30/gallon average cost, will be higher the next 10 years, so maybe $110 in gas).
$20 in oil (changed every other year, less than a quart, at $4/qt, or $2/year)
$30 in air filters (tap dirt out every 4 or 5 mows, replace it maybe every 3 years)
$5 spark plug (changed it, didn't need to)
so $125 over 10 years for me or $12.50 year
One $450 battery blows that away for cost.
Add in the (conservative) $3/year to charge the battery 15 or 20 times.
You're looking at $480 over 10 years or $48/year in costs.
Hands down, for me, yes, its cheaper to operate a gas mower, until/unless gas per gallon over 10 years equals the cost of a new lithium ion battery pack. So unless gas averages $20/gallon over the next 10 years, my 1/5 acre yard says gas is the way to save money.
If I had 1/2 acre, okay, now I can see it getting close, but even at that, it'd cost me $25/year in gas at $4/gallon, so $250 in gas for a 1/2 acre over the past 10 years, and yeah, no doubt I would have had to bought another battery back 4 or 5 years into ownership if this (admittedly nice, but expensive) Ego mower was available in 2011.
It's fair to make arguments for savings, but its just blurted out how electric saves you money. I never see anyone actually factor in battery costs/maintenance. I only need to do the math to see that it's not (yet) true, unless by some miracle the original battery last 10 years and still holds 60 or 70% of original charge (it won't).
If you assume the original battery last 7 years and lower that true cost of the $450 battery to the prorated cost of 3 years (about $150), then we're pulling within $50 of the gas mower, still more costly, but within reason enough to consider switching.
I had multiple electric mowers and then switched back to gas with a Honda 217. Couldn’t be happier, it’s so much more powerful than the electric and I don’t have to swap batteries 3+ times a mow. It got real old only being able to mow half a strip without stalling. The Honda will eat a whole strip without the slightest hiccup.
Just though I'd share my current experience & maybe it's a 1-off: but I'm frustrated as hell dealing with EGO: (Location GA:/grass type: Bermuda approx. 66oo sq. ft.) I bought the EGO 2130SP in Feb 2021, while I want to give it 5-Star rating (works great when it works). But EGO is getting 1-star from me. I've had a random problem of it not starting (in driveway) or stopping/stalling during a cut (and I'm not cutting overgrown grass here). It's not a battery issue, the battery works fine in the String Trimmer. Also, I can't simulate it at will. In Mar of 2022 I turn it over to an authorized dealer. They had it for 3 weeks and told me they could not find anything wrong with it (Note: it was returned to me very filthy, both mower and charger). Well, the same problem happened again at the end of the cutting season (yes, it ran all summer long in 90-degree heat). At the beginning of this season (2023) it did it again after 2 complete cuts. In APR/May it happened again these past 2 times I called EGO. I let them know I reported this same problem in the past, went through their scripted troubleshooting guide and it worked fine while they were on the phone. Hung up with them and guess what? It stalled again and would not start about 20 minutes into my cut, I finished with my gas mower. The following week it would NOT start again. Before calling EGO, I went through all the steps I from the previous week and it would NOT start on the driveway. I called EGO and of course, it works. This time I was able to finish my lawn (Bermuda, approx. 6600 sq. ft. Here 's my problem, I'm not calling EGO for no reason. It's under full warranty and there is something wrong with my mower. And I can guarantee it's not the typical wiring or relays found on youtube vids. As I said, this happen to me in 2022 and I waited to double triple check to be sure it was not some silly operator error. 1) Charge battery (all green lights) 2) slide into slot (be sure it clicks in place) 3) fully push start button and pull bail switch. The light on the handle shows solid "orange light" while battery lights are fully green. The mower nor the battery is hot and I'm not even in the grass at times when it shuts down or simply does not start. There is no way it's a load issue and be acceptable as working under normal conditions. I follow the 1/3 rule of cutting. I've replayed this info to the EGO reps several times. This should be more than enough info to turn it in. Yet, I can't get them to authorize a real tech to figure out the issue or simply replace it. But then what...I'm out of a mower I paid $600+ for another three weeks possibly. It's a good thing I held on to my 15 yr. old gas mower. WTF!!! Currently, I'm looking for a lawn mower of my daughter. Her house sits on about 1/2 acre of mixed grasses and weeds, and lot of leaves in the fall. I'm thinking about purchasing her the Honda HRX217VKA w/GCV200 engine. The problem is I'm 90 minutes away and I am the mechanical dad. I never realized my girls never cut the lawn it was always my son. At least until the other day when she was visting and she asked to cut the grass. I have no idea how they got away with that. LOL
Considered an electric when replacing a 15 year old Craftsman with B&S engine this year. The Ego was the clear choice among the electric. Run time between charges and the battery cost was the deal breaker. I couldn't mow my lawn on a single charge, even with the Ego 10Ah, which costs $450 for the battery alone. I'd need two 10Ah batteries and that would just barely provide enough energy. For the cost of a 10Ah Ego battery I got a Honda HRN216VKA. Starts on one pull. Mows entire lawn on less than a tank of fuel, has plenty of power and mulches magnificently, even if the grass is tall. A $600 electric plus $450 battery vs a $450 Honda was a no-brainer. And an estimated battery life of five years? I use *less* than 7.5 gallons per year in the mower. Oil change is 12 oz, less than a half quart (many never change the oil - for 10-15 years - just add a little when needed - not good, but not a killer). Filters are dirt cheap and change in a matter of seconds. Spark plugs last forever. Put STA-BIL in the gas when filling the can and never worry about winter storage. A quart of STA-BIL has lasted almost 20 years - with a mower and snow blower. Always starts in Spring. Owning a gasser isn't that hard - maintenance is very minimal - do that and store it in a shed or garage out of the weather and it will run for many years.
Those touting "green" with electric mowers must consider the pollutants created in Nanjing China making the Ego mower - especially the batteries - and the oil consumed making the plastic there. China is the worst polluter on the planet (they don't care one iota). What happens with the battery when it has worn out? I daresay 99.99% toss it into the trash and off to the landfill it goes - along with every other battery of every type (except lead acid automotive). Human behavior at its finest. Then comes the electricity generated to recharge the battery. The overwhelming methods of electricity generation are coal, oil and gas fired turbines. All battery powered mowers and cars do is shift the fossil fuel consumption point - and create a battery disposal nightmare. FWIW, Honda mowers are made in North Carolina under EPA pollution regulations.
If you have a heavily treed yard with many leaves in the fall, gas is the only way to go. I bought a battery mower, but got rid of it due to the lack of suction (certainly due to the blade mass/design); very disappointing. Back to a Honda gas mower.
I have good and bad news for you. Honda just announced that they will stop producing lawnmowers after 2023. Your Honda Mower just jumped up in value. Honda still is the best mower despite this news.
Hey Chris
I believe that your problem with the electronic is that you are not using it the right way.
Your problem with the electronic is so simple to solve. More simple than starting the gas honda.
You'll get to it my.
Wish you the best.
I was torn between the HRX and the ego. I eventually decided on the HRX. Reason being 1) the ego lack of suction for fall clean up and possible mohawk in the lawn. 2) I've seen people complaints about their ego mower not starting due to relay switch issues from the folding handle. 3) Sub par customer service. 4) The ability to adjust all 4 wheels. 5) The latest ego model is over 100 dollars more than the HRX. Overall electric just isn't there yet. Maybe in a few years.
Have you tried every E-mower offering out there? Why are people judging an entire line of products based on one brand?
@@BronzeLincolns81 because it's the best atm. Their new mower def has better suction and has dual blades...
@@rconn4501 that's yet to be proven. Being the best and being the most popular aren't the same thing.
@@BronzeLincolns81 fashion is 1 thing. When it comes to tools, the most popular is usually the best. Ego is ahead of the comp in battery powered lawn equipment!
@@rconn4501 Doesn't matter what industry. companies don't spend millions of dollars are marketing and advertising for fun. When it comes to promotion, perception is reality. If Ego has made themselves visible enough to make people believe they have the best product, the marketing department did its job.
I heard the Toro Recycler and Super Recycler have really great suction and their battery version destroys the Ego in terms of suction. I think I am going to try that route. Because I agree. Cut quality ultimately is king.
i had many problems with my ego and i got rid of it and also went with the Toro recycler and love it with the personal pace.
@@sbrodie08 How is the cut quality of the Toro? Does it have good suction? That is ultimately what I care about most. Does it make the lawn look good?
@@kylemielke1021 the vortex works great Iam quite happy with the cut. It was a lot better than the Ego that I had.
@@sbrodie08 did you have the select cut?
Went through 2 carburetors on my Honda HRX due to constant engine surging. Called Honda and they say they are not responsible for fuel quality problems because of the low grade gas I am putting through it. What??? Sorry Honda, but you need to build a machine that runs on the fuel I have available to me. I’m not going to import gasoline from another country to power my mower. I buy non-ethanol fuel that a local gas station sells for boaters. I ended up selling it last year and purchased the EGO select cut. Yes, it has slightly less suction but with the high lift blade it is pretty close. The convenience of electric over leaky, oily and smelly string trimmers, blowers and mowers has made me love cutting the grass again. They are also very quiet which makes them pleasant to use. You don’t realize how noisy a gas mower is until you go electric.
I'm on the fence about this. I like both. Sorry you had the issue with the Honda surging. Hypothetically, I bet I could help you figure out the problem and fix it. Most likely the idle jet clogged up. I tried other gas mowers and Hondas are the best, but they still have regular issues like you mentioned before. Right now, I wish I had an EGO, I have regular maintenance cuts and I don't need all that extra power from Honda. I know the EGO with the high lift blade is awesome, However during the early cutting season and late cutting season including the Fall leaves, Honda outperforms EGO. Hopefully someone puts out an electric mower that obliterates gas all together.
@@Mr-Chris I agree with you Chris and thanks for the reply. I used my neighbors Toro gas mower with a brand new Atomic blade that I helped him put on, and WOW, that thing sucked up everything....even wet leaves. The problem is EGO's blades (even the high lift blade) are designed to minimize drag and do not have the same aggressive pitch on it that the gas mower blades do which is why they don't have the same airflow. But there are some people who are fitting aftermarket blades on the EGO with good results albeit with reduced runtime. The EGO select-cut 2020 version I have has only a 1000w motor and using a gas mower blade will cause the motor to kick up to high speed and drain the battery. For 2021 there is a new select-cut XP model that has a 1200w motor and a huge 10AH battery which I believe would handle a more aggressive blade much better. I did enjoy using my Honda mower for many years and you are right, Honda builds a great machine. It's just that once you get used to an EGO it's hard to switch back to gas, even with its deficiencies.
@@FL-FLyer i agree whole heartedly. Honda motors were an absolute must for me❗I went EGO and ain't looking back unless Tesla makes lawn equipment...
@@rconn4501 You got that right! If Tesla makes one let me know., I’ll get one too 👍
Not cheaper at all, more up front and good luck finding replacement blades for most of them. I have a battery mower that is useless in 2 years. Until I can walk into a any store and get a replacement blade we have a long way to go
You can buy replacement blades, what are you talking about?
@@dotdot2723 craftsman v60, great mower but dead line. Ego does have blade available. But not everywhere. It is frustrating.
@@contax50mm limited stores only, sure. They're not thaaat popular. It's like purchasing certain nuts,bolts,tools. Not all stores will have them
I love my EGO trimmer and wouldn’t trade it. However when it comes to mowers I still prefer gas. I just know there will come a day that a new battery would be needed and for the price of those it’s just not worth it to me. To each their own.
It's quite arguable that Teslas do not "outperform gas" cars, 3:07, I don't care how fast my car goes in a quarter-mile, but I DO care that a Tesla would add 4 hours (20% more time) to my trip to see family, several states away.
Still, I'm considering an EGO lawnmower. I like the fact that it can be stored vertically, to not take up the entire floor of my shed, and most importantly, I like that it is quiet, so I could listen to my podcast while mowing, without having to turn up the sound in my headset to hearing damaging levels. I've had my current lawnmower for more than ten years, and I don't winterize it, I've never changed the oil, or cleaned the underside--and I only have to fill the gas every 4-5 mows. So the EGO would probably be a little more maintenance work (having to remove the battery and charge it after every use).
@@daveduncan2748 EGO is a good choice. It's is easier to use, easy to store, less maintenance, and quieter. If you have enough space, I would recommend going with the EGO as your main mower, but then have a old or used gas mower to use when you need the extra power... like at the start and end of the cutting season.
Especially if you have lots of fall leaves the gas mower will come into its own.
Having a built in battery would literally be the worst idea lmao
Dude I went exactly the other way around.
It’s like you’re apologizing for using a gas mower.. I have a 12 year old Honda hrx.. by know is suspect I’d be on my 3rd $400 battery.. maintenance is simple.. less than 5 minutes to change the oil.. stabilizer in the fall, put away… you still have to sharpen the blade on either side. Decent EGO is $700!! More than a Honda HRN..
Battery mowers aren't ready for primetime. They are good for small homeowner but anyone with more than 1/5th acre with any rain, gas is the way to go.
EGO twin blade is much better then gas
Just bought a new Honda mower rather than an Ego. The deal killer on the Ego was that I do not want to buy made in China…
Besides, the Honda was cheaper and cuts better..
This makes me laugh... I'll take my Ego lawn mower over a clunky, oil, and gas, and fumes spewing mower any day of the week. Just purchased a Z6 for this cutting season.
I'll pass on Gas. 🤣🤣😆
For the record, Teslas aren't fast, they're quick, big difference
yep, gas is still the way to go when it comes to mowers. they're much more reliable and while yes you do have to do more maintenance much of it can be easily mitigated by simply treating your machine with respect by keeping it clean and out of the elements.
Honda is the best!
You can't use you water hose to clean an electric mower.
I wish Tesla would make a lawnmower. You know it would be engineered to work. I just hope it would not be a robot self-operating thing though. I also dislike the single handle height adjustment. People see that as a feature, but I see that as being more complex to build and limiting on how to use the mower. My teenager beat the crap out of my Honda, caught him standing on the deck so he did not have to walk and it never broke. Yeah, I wish it was not so heavy though.
My hrx217 takes a few pulls
A bit weird but your Honda mower won’t last long if you keep laying out on its side like that and you will be doing a lot more then a little tinkering you will be doing a full rebuild or you will have a oil lock up but yes Honda mower are good too but ego are awesome it out Weights gas ten times more
It's okay to place a Honda mower on its side with the air filter/carb up. If I place it to its side with carb down, then its risk a hydrolock engine. I agree EGO is great and all of their tools are high quality, I just wish their mowers could mulch fall leaves like a Honda.
@@Mr-Chris that’s cool Chris it sounds like you know your stuff , and seems like you are a good man . I didn’t know that I always lifted my Honda from the front and back , thanx mick from Sydney oz
Tried the ego select cut and the performance was poor, unfortunately I returned it, lawnmowers were sold out everywhere, got a toro instead.
This year I bought a Honda 🤙
Yeah, covid shut down the factory that made Honda's (made in the USA). Last year they were very hard to find. This year they are still hard to find.
The new EGO POWER+ Select Cut XP with Speed IQ has everything you said that would make a perfect electric lawn mower. You should check out the video reviews. It is pricey but so is the Honda mower you have. Also Honda is stopping production of their mowers in Sep of 2023.
The Speed IQ was junk. The new model doesn’t have it.
@@danyeo I had a early model EGO LM2100SP for a while and it just didn't cut the mustard. It had too many miss cuts and not enough suction for picking up leaves in the fall with a bag. It was an ok mower and I could have probably lived with it but I sold it and bought a used Toro personal pace with a Briggs engine. The continuous higher rpm of the Toro gas does a better job mowing. Maybe the new brushless Ego's with select cut are better but they are also like $859? The used Toro was $200
@@Edward-Norton The latest and greatest Ego mower is $1200, but comes with a hefty 10ah battery.
Mine broke within two weeks of starting my new business, terrible customer service, had to walk out of the tool shop with no mower.
Garbage product and a garbage company, sure the gear is slick when it works, but no power compared to petrol and when it breaks you can get it fixed within a few hours. Screw this company, worst customer service
I like to tinker, but not with gas lawnmowers. Just taking the blade off is a huge task. With electric it’s so easy!
Well the EGO is the best that you can buy, in my opinion it's awesome in the Spring and Summer. For me... the EGO struggled in the Fall with leaves, but overall it's a solid easy to use mower.
@@Mr-Chris that’s why I got the Greenworks with the turbo over ride button. Works great for the leaves
Eh I see your point but then you start to have diminishing returns. Add more weight then you are losing the benefit of using battery.
Gas is pricey overtime with oil changes air filter and sparkplug replacements don't even get me started on the price of gas
He does know he is talking about Tesla Plaid right?
Well stated, I agree battery technology isn't there yet especially for the DIY guy. Avg sheeple electric may work.
My Honda sits under the deck steps in rain and snow. It starts on the first try. I’ve had it 8 years. I’ve never changed the oil. I have a quarter acre. I’ll fiddle with buying gas twice a season vs charging a battery every time and hoping the battery doesn’t die 90% of the way done with the job. I agree that the electric mowers are close but not quite ready for prime time. I would disagree on the Tesla. It is still only 90% baked as well. I like a range of 400 miles, not worrying if a charger will be available, getting my gas in 5 minutes and then just moving on. I will eventually go all electric at some point but only when the electrics come up equal or surpass gas engines on run time. That may happen if solid state batteries become a reality. For now, go carbon.
You nailed this review… For Ego to match the ICE commercial mowers they need to match the RPM of gas for a cleaner cut at above 3,200 RPM.
The only Ego mower that comes close is the Ego Steel deck at 3,000 RPM unloaded. All the other Ego mowers are as low as 2,700 RPM.
The other feature of the steel deck is that it comes closer to a quality commercial Hondas torque, not by being more powerful in the motor, but ithe deck is smaller than the plastic decks, thus increasing torque at the blades by reducing the diameter but using the same motor.
I have modified my Ego steel deck to a twin blade system and it’s as close as you can get to a commercial mower cut. Come on Ego - you need to live up to your marketing “as good as a combustion mower” 🤣
Ego - don’t discontinue the steal deck as it’s the only decent mower you have. Or perhaps improve the “Select-Cut” with a minimum of 3,200rpm unloaded and and with at least 15% more torque 😉
Ya,gas beats battery imo
500 dollar batterys? Wt#
I have a newer 21" self propelled mulching Honda push mower and I am very disappointed with it. If the grass is a little too tall or wet it gets bogged down clogged so easy. Constantly have to shut it off, clean out the deck and restart it. What a waste of $600. Never tried an Ego, and doubt it would do better than my crappy Honda.
If you have thin blade grass electric is ok but not for thick bladed grass . Short grass ok but not tall grass. I watch my neighbors take twice as long to mow their smaller yards
I’ve owned the Honda HRX217vka and the ego select cut. The Honda is the perfect lawn mower. But both have pluses and minuses
Btw, I see you added those fenders on the Honda as well
What's the select cut missing/lacking in your opinion?
@@rconn4501 personally, I liked the self propelled action of the Honda. You could easily adjust the speed on how fast you can go by the lever. The ego select, you have to keep rotating a dial to find the right speed.
Changing the blade is much easier on the Honda as well. The Honda dual blades didn’t have a specialized set of blades for mulching or bagging. The ego I bought came with 2 extra blades, one for bagging and another for an extended run time. But the Honda you can get great mulching and bagging with the same set.
Speaking of bagging. The Honda has a knob where you could go from bagging to mulching, which was nice. The ego doesn’t have that function. And remember you have to change the blades for optimum performance for bagging or mulching.
The ego has one lever to adjust the wheels the Honda, you have to do each one individually. Also, the ego can do a side discharge, the Honda can’t.
All in all they are both good lawn mowers. I actually traded my Honda for an new select cut xp. I babied her with oil changes, spark plug changing, and all of the maintenance. But I don’t have to do that any longer with the ego. I just hope it lasts
@@xftbllplyr2091 my fav feature on the Honda is that bagging/mulching knob. The EGO will be unbeatable with that feature imo.
this shakey video is tough, you gotta fix that
Try kress there more powerful than any petrol 200cc mowers on the market today
Very informative. Buy a tripod.
There's another important fact that I never see in these reviews. All of lawns are perfect and flat with a tiny slope here or there..... Ok that's no big deal for any self propelled electric mower .....
Come to my house with a constant 50 thru 60° hill for the entire cut .....!!!
You don't want to the lightest mower in this case. You need a mower that's Planted !
Especially a slower fixed speed transmission, whether hydrostatic or not .
My Honda HRX2175KHYA Not only cuts the lawn but pulls me up and down some of the insane embankments that I have ...! And at 68+ with a bad back, I REALLY need that pull ...!
One tank of gas can get me through almost all of my lawn .....
I would burn through a dozen batteries !?!??
Until there is a better ( solid state ) battery coming , an electric mower on a hilly lawn is not even an option !
The weight of my mower is heavy, but I can pull sideways on a slope and it doesn't hop, skip, and jump down the hill.
I even had a lighter weight Honda with 1 fixed speed that was too fast and slid sideways at times when cutting.
Let's put the electrics through some really hard tests and stop babying them so they come out looking great for Everybody .....
Also , isn't an Ego replacement battery expensive ...????
The technology is coming folks, but it just ain't there yet, and sustainable power is the main culprit, just like the automobiles !
New Ego mower is over 80lbs.
@danyeo Still needs a more robust faster charging battery. The hilly terrain will sap most of the power for the drive section....
They show promise if you have a smaller flat lawn.
@@joeserrenti9857 Most Ego users at this point own several batteries so run time is less of a concern. And anyone who drops $1200 on this will most likely buy more batteries.
@danyeo I'll run my Honda HRX2175KHYA for years and continue to fix it as long as parts are available and still come out ahead ... The hydrostatic transmission is beefy enough for the hills ....
Read where the separate little self propel Motors in many electrics are rated at 200 hrs. Of use ..... and they're a lot of $$$ to fix .....
By the time I'm done with mine I'll have a lawn company doing it .... 70+ years is enough, have to buy perscriptions , not batteries ...lol... 🙄
@@joeserrenti9857 I've been using battery since 2017, the first Ego 2.5AH batteries died on me because I left them in my garage every Winter and Summer. I've bought a few 5.0 and 7.5AH's since and not one problem. I've also beat the crap out of the Ego Select Cut XP mower I've had for a few years and not a single issue. I owned a gas riding Craftsman 42 inch mower for 17 years and it was slowly falling apart, deck was rusting. Gave it to my sister and that's the last gas tool I'll own. The thing about battery tools....DON'T buy the latest and greatest or you'll get price gouged. The new Ego mower is $1200....SCREW THAT. I just grabbed a refurbished Greenworks 80v for $350 shipped. I also own Ego chainsaw, weed whacker, among others. What I like is I don't have to cross my fingers it starts when I need it to, hit a button and they work.
Ego has microchip that matches factory batteries. Don’t use Chinese batteries will definitely void warranty trust me they know
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Lol the Tesla thing became a dead horse that you were beating , yikes
Honda announced that they will no longer make gas mowers after this year, 2023. So, all you will be able to buy is a money maker for the battery mower companies. Those batteries just don't hold up and need constant replacement. Honda sounds like greed got to them. They can make more money selling batteries than mowers...where you only buy a Honda maybe every 12 years. You'll soon be dishing out 500 bucks for batteries every 5 years. A second 500 if you want a spare to be able to mow.
You can convince me of several things but using an Electric Lawnmower over my Honda is certainly not one of them.
My battery powered drills failing are enough evidence that these Electric Lawn Mower and Tools will fail too.