Top Five 40 Foot Sailboats - Ep 213 - Lady K Sailing
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Tim Tim Tim…I don’t think anyone minds at all the vids lasting 20 min…as for me, I could watch an hour of your very well researched opinions. Well done! Thank you!
yes, though short and to the point is better
and Lady K Sailing can also make a part 2, if needed!
I'm sixty seconds and heard nothing but fluff so I'm moving on. I think this is why tik tok is so popular it forces people to make a point quickly and move on.
I think it might be time to add a monthly Podcast?
Absolutely spoken the words from my mouth!!! Have been watching Tim's channel for ever and hopefully buying my first monohull including yacht all based on our Man Tim..... An Aussie fan
@@ppumpkin3282There are many many points to be made, he gives a wealth of info
Nordic 40, Baltic 40, Sabre 38, Bermuda 40, swan 42 MKII
Love our Baltic 42DP. Sailed her from Lake St Clair to Scotland last year. Check out Sailing Northern Brees.
@@erinbates3653that must have been legendary.
@@kimhorton6109 it was! RUclips: Sailing Northern Brees
The best 40-footer is the one that you actually own and have put some sweat equity into.
We found our 40ish in 2019. We saw her in the spring on the hard as we were driving into the boat yard prepping our boat for the season.
We both had the same reaction……I could live on that boat! We wondered what it was?
Well, we discovered it was an Islander Freeport 41 Ketch, 1978. Holy crap, it’s a floating condo!
We bought it in the fall, she wasn’t for sale, have been fitting her out for us, and am leaving for the Bahamas summer 23.
Congrats!!
!+
Congrats! Sounds amazing!! How much does it cost to keep at the yard while you are outfitting?
I'm new to all this and think it would help me understand all the systems better by getting a boat that needs some yard time. But not really sure if that's realistic if I have the funds to get something more ready to cruise 🤔
@@RamblinRider totally depends on your Marina
Ours is totally ready to sail. BUT, we re-did the bottom and are adding solar, water maker, dingy davits and motor lift, to become self reliant.
We will be off to the Bahamas in July’23
What about the Tartan 40 or Cheoy Lee?
Valiant 42 and PSC 40 should definitely be on this list.
So we are building a list for Part 2!
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In that case then, I am a big fan of the Tayana 42. Bit pricey for my budget, but goes well enough and liveable on.
I agree..valiant for sure and tayana 42 ..oh it goes well. I'm biased and we love ours. It's a very safe boat.
We have and love a Hunter 430 legend. This is a bit bigger and wider (14) and provides lots of room, but can still be single handed and has a 4'11" draft. I know you have shown pictures of the the interior, it's striking.
I always look forward to your videos, informative, entertaining and from an point of experience.
Really happy you put the Passport in there. I drool every time I see one for sale. Great offshore lay out but look like they still offer all the comfort you would want to live aboard. Also offer a nice Pullman berth set up 👍
I enjoy your videos and your passion comes across so well. Keep up the good work! It's good for folks to know that sometimes "you get what you pay for" and be prepared to replace and fix stuff for an older boat. For me, I prefer the new innovations of boats designed after 2000.
Great channel and advice for those new to sailing Thanks for posting
Thanks again Tim I really love your format and channel
1990 Endeavour 42 Center Cockpit, .....
Sugar scoop stern...
Amazing boat!
Edit: If you can find 1 for sale!
Great video. I did the Delmarva on an IP 40 with the Maryland School of Sailing and was fortunate enough to be with Capt. Tom Tursi. Got into some rough weather coming back up the Chesapeake and it was solid. It would be great if you could do a video on 40-45' Cats.
Thank you. Now I’m facing the right direction pursuing my sailboat. 👍
The legend looks perfect for my size family! Now to convince them this is what we need to do 😆
Perfect timing. We’re researching the next step….upgrading from 32ft to become full time live aboard circumnavigates in next few years. Thinking 38-45ft
Another great video! Thanks again for assistance during our consult last month. Sadly, we didn’t buy the any of the boats we talk about. We are going for a Hunter Legend 37 or 40; just need to find the right one.
I think we're all enjoying you lining up boats based on any criteria at all. I was talking with Kyle my fellow Hunter 45 compadre in my harbor. We just love our boats, the more time we spend on them, the more we love them. Nevertheless we'd go out in the rain to look at just about any other boat.
I think I've noticed a trend in your videos, as much as the model of a boat, it's those from he 80s where you gush about wood work. I noticed this too. 2021 Annapolis, all new boats... looked like Ikea -- even the ones I really liked. (The wood work I remember from Anapolis? just the few simple but nice, and real wood details, on my friend George's Hunter (not in the show). It's obvious why the older boats are nicer. Computer cutting and milling machines do great with complex shapes (every part of a boat) and Ikea materials. When I was doing carpentry, I've custom cut things to fit in odd places, but not boat shape odd -- always took 4 times longer and still never came out right. (I know all the tricks, but I've never figured out how boat cabinetmakers did it so well.)
I'd suggest buying the best newest boat you can, but go crawl around a boat grave yard, find some doors and details incorporate them into your boat. The big new cat I wanted to buy I knew I'd have to do at least one thing-- get the dimensions for the table, a sheet of that light weight structural foam some veneer and solid wood for the edges and make my own table, or hire a good cabinetmaker. (And always round the corners even if they fold leaving V -shaped voids in the folded top. It'll never be a problem, and you'll never jab yourself sliding in.)
I have been looking in the 35 - 40’ range. If one is going to use marinas more than rarely and you aren’t going to have guests then a well laid out 35’ would do. However, alot of 35’s are not suited for a couple to spend the winter in the islands on. Liveability also depends on the size of the tanks as well as layout. Maybe you could do a video on 35’ - 38’ livable cruisers for those who want to save a bit on dockage and haul out fees.
Same! A lot of 40+ footers are nice, but I'm really trying to find a perfect "couple + occasional 2-3 guests" boat in the 37ish ft range. Just to save that little extra in cost, maintenance, complexity, hassle etc. I really think that is a sweet spot! Often I find a 37 ft boat that's 10years newer for same price as a 40+ ft. Often making it more livable. Beneteau 373 for example is one that looks nice
I know several live aboard couples living and sailing comfortably on IP35
I have a buddy and he owned a legend. The interior layout was great but the cockpit had the most uncomfortable seating I've ever sat apon. There's no back support and after awhile it started to hurt. Also it was a chore to load anything into the boat with that awkward step up before the hatchboards, so It was a multi step process to get groceries into. A great boat for sailing and weekends but not a choice I'd make for permanent cruising. My favourite 40 footer is my boat. There's a lot I love about my Hughes 40 ketch, deep comfortable centre cockpit, shallow keel, blue water boat, every seat is comfortable...not to mention it's heavily modified with a layout change, lots of solar and electric propulsion 😉.
thanks Tim for the very insightful video... was researching this exact topic before picking the Hunter 40.5 Legend. The updated design to the 40 legend has a lot of important upgrades (bulb led keel vs steel, better quality construction and still maintains the backstay as the last generation of Hunters that did so). on top of that offers 6' 8" headroom, 5' draft yet a hull speed going almost 9kn (did +10kn surfng...).
You do a Awsome job breaking these boats down. I've lived aboard 37 yrs. 53 foot Spencer Ketch.. Winter/ summer . You know your boats thank you for your insight .. always lots to learn.
Thanks again!
Well done. Thank you.
In the late 1970's I was a yacht Broker in MDR, CA. I was a Morgan dealer and owned a 38 Morgan. Loved the boat. It was a great boat for cruising the west coast of the US and Mexico. It was easy to single-hand and a forgiving boat in heavy weather.
Great video! The Passport 40 is unarguably one of the best blue water cruiser’s ever made
Thank you for your professional choice, Sir. It helps Europans like me, to get a first orientation about American boats. All five are beautiful ships, that make you feel home at once.
Yeahhhhhhhhh, finally a Morgan and can you believe, my favorite Morgan. Love your work. Keep them comming.
Thanks for the consideration of the Hunter 40 legend. I love my 1988 for east coast cruising. Hope to see you out here.
We also own one.
Love this guy!
Love the long vids mate!!!! Keep them coming thick and fast
I have a Beneteau 393 that I really like! Fast, great layout and under 40 feet to keep cost very reasonable.
The 93 and 73 are both on my dream list! To check out some day.. They look great, and in a relatively small package!
Looking forward to your next video.
Living on a Columbia 41 for 13 years now, easy sailing by myself, and plenty of room. Very solid boat, although she does always need elbow grease. I'm always looking for ways to improve her. She is pretty old being a 1972 model, so the work that has been done by previous owners needed to be undone or finished. And as you sail along new things always come up. Southward direction is my dream, way too many winters up here...sure is nice in the summer though.
The Morgans make excellent affordable cruisers. I have met many friends cruising on boats 36 to my own 461, and ALL were happy...especially those who had the funds to upgrade to a new engine. The majority are Bamamas friendly, all are unabashedly cruiser oriented and forgiving boats with good displacement equalling comfort and storage. Some even surprise, like the late 41 out island "classic" with an improved fin keel for upwind clawing. An excellent, budget friendly group of boats for cruisers on a tighter budget.
Also of note, although rare, is the smaller Islander Freeport 36/38, with a pullman double and forward head plus a gorgeous raised salon and views...I got my son to buy this as his cruiser and we both love it. Safe deep cockpit with surprising sailing performance...again though best to find one with an updated motor.
Good for you, Tim, for wrestling the bear. I am certain you will hear from "what about-ers", and I see you have!
I think your choices here are well-informed and well-founded.
How about a segment on "small production run" boats? We sailed N and S America for 7 years in our Contessa 38. Only 9 were built, and we had to do a lot of research prior to purchasing, but she came through the toughest challenges on earth unscathed.
Now, we have a Gilbert 30+, also tiny production run of 9 (Canadian-made), for coastal cruising the WA/BC/Alaska waters. We had never heard of the boat prior to finding her, and we are certain there are other smaller-run production boats out there, which folks might consider.
Woo hoo Tim! That’s Joann’s boat at 6:48. She and I are working together in boot key harbor, marathon, fl. For this cruising season. I hope to go to the Bahamas again this fall. It’s a small world! Take a cruise from CA and come down south again. Peace love and adventure. Wes. Albin Vega 27.
nailed the subject
The very best is a 42' colvin gazelle junk rig schooner built in aluminum i lived on one for over 20 years had her in 50 kt head winds with 24 ' seas and she handled awesome
This was NOT a long video. I could listen to hours of these reviews.
Excellent video Tim. I actually like the Hunter Legend.
Always good material for further conversation. Would love to see you do same for those ONLY looking to cross oceans. My eyes are feasting on 3 and would love to hear your take on them. I'm refering to Tayana, yes, I.P., and Cabo Rico.
So we are building a list for Part 2! :o
Let's see if Lady K Sailing bites!
Those 3 are on our list too.
Great to learn about yacht brands I’m not familiar with eg Bristol and passport
The 2001 Benetuae 411 was a favorite of mine , Did a lot of miles with NO down time ,A folding kiwi prop & good sails , Clean bottom no slouch to , If you can get a 2 cabin version even better & same goes for the earlier Januaes 2000 era .
I also have a 2001 411. 2 cabin love it you wont find an owner that doesnt love their 411
thanks, tim. always fun to watch your videos. are you going cruising anytime soon?
thanks!
I find your videos informative and entertaining. Would love to see one about Capital Yachts Neptune 24 as I am in the process of restoration on one. Very little info about this boat.
too funny, just saw this the day after I moved onto "Bristol Cream" now "Resfeber" (boat #2 the Bristol 43.3) - Good Luck and thanks for your efforts and hope to see you out there!
Outstanding !!!! 😎👍
I am really liking this video format. Maybe do them on sub 28, 28 - 38, etc.
I love all the gorgeous woodwork on these older boats. I recall hearing that by around 2000 the gorgeous woodwork began giving way to white and bright interiors that seem to give up way too much character for my taste. You feel like you’re looking at an IKEA showroom. Just not for me. These look really very nice.
My family had a 42 ft. Christ Craft when I was a kid. Dad had a plaque on the bull head that read. Definition of a boat……it a hole in the water you through money into! LOL!!
Hunter legend 40 took me by surprise!
I think the HR 42e definitely needs to be on this list.
I like my ‘22 Beneteau Oceanis 40.1, but (depending how shaky the global economy gets) I suspect it will will still be a bit until the criteria about budget friendliness applies to getting one. If you want to test it in the San Juan’s, it’s in a charter fleet there. I book it 6 weeks owner use, which seems about right for me while I’m still working for a living😊
As long as you're going into the upper $100s, I'd suggest the J42 for its combination of speed, seaworthiness, build quality, interior, short-handed capability, and available shoal draft. Would easily be the fastest in your group. J40 too for less money.
I have owned a 44 ft vatelina Morgan for 20 years.
Love her.
Would love to see a best of TLC needed 35 to 45 boats which is sold base but needing such things as new through hulls and Standing rigging.
Love my 386 Pearson. Easy to sail and affordable.
We have an Acapulco 40 and love it .
Really surprised you didn't talk about Catalina more. The 380 (top of my list) and the Oh so wonderful Catalina 42 MKII, which even you Tim said you'd love to have. Cheers.
I know. But I talk about it too often 🤣
@@LadyKSailing maybe do a part 2….?
I had a Whitby 42, which is well under 100k. A great vessel, that is found in harbours all over the world. My neighbour solo circumnavigated his W42
Groovy video
Thanks, buddy for the ideas…
Sadly Charlie Morgan passed this week. He was very involved in the local Tampa Bay sailing scene.including the Morgan Round up out of Davis Islands Yacht Club.
Spent 15 years at the Tampa tribune that is sad news all the scrap teak from boat manufacturers great time
The drafts. I wanna go out the Erie canal. Canada Smh. I love my Canadian neighbors. I had a 43" c&c landfall. I have seen nice Chryslers around the lakes too.
A few boats that come to mind is the Tartan 37 or the Pearson 38.
I’m surprised you didn’t choose the Catalina 380 or 410 - both excellent boats!
thats a coastal cruiser, not a bluewater.
I agree with reo below, the Pearson 422 or 424 is worth considering. So much available for under $100k-ish.
2 companionways are such a nice feature in the 424, and with Pearson's great build quality and variety of sail plans 424 is a perrenial fav
Backup motor?
Nice video
I have drooled over that Passport 40AC for a few years now.....out of my price.
thank you very much for helpfully thought .its definitely light me up
As always Tim ... Well said.
Thanks Simon
I'll spot you the sailing ability of the Legend series. I found it interesting that the Passport didn't have the Pullman berth that seems most common on those. And more surprised at the swim step.
I've sold a number of 382,383,384s over the years. Selling quarter berth boats is a challenge. Great cruising boat along with the Tartan 37s.
I seem to have an awful lot of tall guys looking at boats. You have thoughts about that. Headroom always seems to be a secret. Always enjoyed your episodes even if I don't agree on some things.
What a great channel. I subscribed
I do enjoy this channel...
Great channel. I must subscribe. 👍
Enjoyed the content . I am in New Zealand and looking for a nice live aboard 40 to 45 footer. I am new to the sailing life so all the tips are good to get . I have subscribed . Cheers
My favorite in the "affordable" range is the Pearson 424.
Hi love your videos. Wish you shared your opinions one day for the older S&S Nautor Swan sailboats
Rival Bowman 40, one of the best!
Here we are in class at CIT, Tim! 🎬📽🙂
I grew up on a hinckley 41, but the bermuda 40s were very nice.
I have a 1977, Morgan OutIsland 41' center cockpit sloop (not ketch) Mine is called "the weekender" different below than the charter ketch. 64 perkins with 4 blade prop-its a tow boat. 220 gals fuel; 220 gals water.
Freedom 40/40 Dave Pedrick design. I've had 3 different size Freedoms and won't own any other boat. Great boats.
Thanks for making the video. Truly do like the Hunter 40 legend. For the price is hard to beat. My very experienced sailing friend to his to Bulgaria from the Dominican Republic. The boat performed well for its weight and size.
have you reviewed Wauquiez sailboats, well built and good in high seas, a robust tested platform
I love my 38’ foot Sabre Mark II.
Valiant 40,is my favorite
I sailed a Morgan 382 from Seattle to La Paz MX - lived on it for 7 years. Wonderful boat, good sailor.
I miss it!
Thanks for the reminder.
Greg
This may ruffle some feathers, but what about the Hunter 41DS?! This boat really appeals to me as a retiring gentleman who would like to sail the gulf/Caribbean with comfort and a bit of speed?! And yes, I’m considering the 40 legend as well as the 420 passage. Which would you recommend?!
Great review! I notice you down vote in your commentary on some of the videos and pics of boats for sale. Maybe do a tutorial on how to do great ones!
Ha. I knew you were gonna say a Morgan. Solid af.
Most inspiring. Find a boat that is manageable short and single handed, and ticks all the desired creature comfort is a full time job. What about insurance then? Most insurers hesitate insure older vessels.
I had to laugh at " you dont want to have to invent the wheel every time you have to do something ...".
Thats exactly what i have to do every time !
ALL of these boats are in another universe when it comes to their pricing. Wait a year.
I might add a Pacific Seacraft to this list (37 or 40), but also in the $150-200k range...
Your videos are not as long as you think they are, actually, they should be a tiny bit longer to SHARE your knowledge. keep the good work up and thank you, thinking in booking a session with you in the near future.
Cheers
I been looking at the 36-42 foot range production boats of Beneteau and Bavaria. The CC versions. Can you make a video about these?
IMO you do not want either of those boats. I sure wouldn't buy one