SERIOUSLY, How Is Destiny 2 Still Alive?
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- Опубликовано: 24 май 2024
- Having first launched in September 2014 and seen numerous updates, expansions and overhauls throughout the years, it's shocking that the Destiny franchise has held on for as long as it has. Bungie will conclude the Light and Darkness saga - a story nearly ten years in the making - on June 4th with Destiny 2: The Final Shape.
Yet the sheer tenacity for survival it's displayed, whether it's Bungie's many mistakes that take many months to fix or the live-service genre falling out of favor (with a few exceptions), has been impressive. With The Final Shape, the franchise is arguably facing its biggest hurdle in years amid layoffs, controversies and a potential takeover by Sony.
So, let's look back on the years, the highs and lows of the franchise and ponder how it survived, seemingly against all odds, while its competitors faded into the ether. 
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Because even with all of its bad parts, its still better than 90% of games coming out today.
Exactly, I can’t explain to myself why I still play, to be honest I just like to play destiny 2
@@Brant-vh5mk I don't think they're playing solely because of the art
Yeah better than games today but way shitter than titles that came out at the same time or older
I spent this entire year trying every FPS game on the market none of them came close to the gameplay and just sheer volume of content. To really appreciate the game, instead of focusing on what we all find annoying, I started being a sherpa for new lights. You forget how much content there is and how amazing it all was for us in the beginning of this journey
Better than SSKTJL
For Destiny the gameplay is familiar, it has a challenge, the music slaps, great voice acting (R.I.P Lance), and OVERALL the guns feel right. Despite all of the corporate greed and dumb decisions.
And the lore and power's
@reggielacey2235 yes, absolutely. Even when I took a year long break (twice!), I still kept with the story and lore.
Destiny 2 is the best fps game there has been in the last x amount of years, no other game offers the same experience, not even close.
Maybe it's just because I play alot of Battlefield, but I dunno about weapons feeling right. If anything, they make no sense. How do handguns outperform a autorifle?! And shotguns short ranges. It's like they asked someone from California to explain guns. Cant even customize the dang weapon sights!
We need weapons 3.0
True, despite all bad things the game still as an amazing gun play.
This video seems Ike it was made by people who never played built only read articles written about the most outspoken critics of the game.
Because it's genuinely a fun FPS with space magic, cool mechanics, good music, beautiful settings and a cool ongoing story. It's the MCU of gaming at this point and Final Shape is endgame.
Everything after this probably won't be as good from Bungie but the 10 years of Destiny was an amazing journey that I'm glad I stuck with.
It's easy to only pay attention to the negative things like the lightfall campaign but hardly anybody talks about how good it feels to use the grapple hook. People say GoS is bad yet it's just a better version of VoG and probably the most beautiful raid in the game. It's easy to hate Bungie for the content vault but not address the fact that the game would probably be 200GB if they didn't do that.
Nothing is perfect and even if Destiny 2 was, people would still hate it. Thanks for reading.
Well said. I’ve been here since the Beta and Day 1 of D1. I’m glad I’ve stuck with the series this long. I mean I bet like you, I’ve taken a long break from grinding the game time to time over the years but I always come back a month or so before the beginning of a new expansion.
Agreed
Honestly lightfall wasn’t bad the story telling wasn’t the best but still good
The sunsetting of weapons kinda grinds my gears, even though i started playing destiny during beyond light, so i wasn’t even affected… So many cool weapon models that still haven’t come back
@@aintgotnophd2196 all weapons are unsunsetted
The gunplay is still one of the most satisfying in any game ever, Bungie knows their FPS machanics.
no shit, the bullet magnetism even in pvp is atrocious and 80% of your visual is your gun
Because the core of destiny is good and has basically always been good. No other company has replicated what destiny brought. Lore is great, music outstanding, great art direction, tight and fluid gameplay. It’s had it problems but they’ve done what they needed to do right. At the end of the day it’s a video game that’s fun to play especially with friends.
What about warframe?
maybe the real Destiny was all the friends we made along the way
Deej, is that you?
Its very popular to hate on Destiny. Gotta farm them views I guess.
Destinys like an old relic no one cares about anymore. Sorry to hurt your soy boy feelings but gamers.moved on 10 years ago. Bungies been a joke since they sold halo 😂🤷♂️
@@HexedArcherSame for Call of Duty. Same old mechanics but now covered with skins and loot boxes. Franchise should've died off long ago
Seriously, how is GamingBolt still producing slop?!?!
"Fanatism of its players" its a very disrespectfull way of talking about millions of passionate players that really love this game and franchise. If this is good, so the same can be said about this almost irrelevant page. How Gamingbolt is still alive? Fanatism of its viewers?
Good point
fantastic of its players what he said was true, destiny 2 players are like people with Stockholm syndrome game doesn't create anything new, recycling is copying It's shit from the devs who say it's "new" These players come back like bitches
If you still play Destiny 2 today you are just addicted. The game is just a bunch of chores and credit card swipes. Destiny 1 was so much fucking better.
If you think so@@slackstarfish8133
@@slackstarfish8133 Damn, I didn't think I would see the "D1 was better" take out in the wild again, I thought we were past that point.
In all seriousness though, it's not exactly fair to dump millions of people into the "they're just addicted" box without any differentiation. I don't know how closely you've been following the game and the discourse around it, but by now even the biggest D1 enjoyers no longer claim that it was better than what D2 is nowadays. Not saying the game is without flaw (god knows that's far from the truth), but so was/is D1 just like any other game and D2 by all means is a great experience if you want to get into it. Again, not saying it's perfect or that D1 was terrible or that there aren't plenty of people with an unhealthy addiction to the game. But it's not everybody, and D2 by this point, is just so much bigger and better than D1 ever had any hopes of being that pretty much nobody who is even vaguely familiar with the game claims the opposite anymore.
Whenever destiny is about to die, bungie turns into Gordon Ramsay and cooks up a banger the likes of which we weren't prepared for and then takes a break for the next year to year and a half then the cycle repeats
How is it alive? IT is still to this day the best feeling gunplay available. I have tried pretty much everything as an alternative and nothing compares.
No
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Warframe is way better
@@vesmopernot even close to having Destiny's level of gunplay....
@@ThePowerOfOneThePowerOfTwodestiny is just cod and halo, it isn’t special truthfully. It’s just a good mix of two other games
Believe it or not its a dope ass game. Addicting game play loop, raids are peak gaming, and the lore is amazing
Holy fuck bro is just hating and then going “then they changed a bit to make it less bad but it’s still bad”
This video does a great job at showing the lows of the franchise, but seems to ignore the highs. The good times I've had in Destiny are the best experiences I've had in gaming.
For real, Destiny had some insane moments. Taken King, Rise of Iron, Forsaken, Witch Queen and probably Final Shape are all 10/10 expension. Yeah, there’s problem with the game from time to time, but this video makes it seem like it was always a bad time. He clearly never liked the game. The lore is amazing and the gameplay is even better. How the fuck can he talk about this game, he probably doesn’t even have more than a 100h into it
When Destiny 2 first launched, it felt very much like Destiny 1. There were a handful of campaign missions and then nothing. Back to PvP. I'd been tired of Crucible at that point. I had my fill in Destiny 1. I took about a 5 year hiatus and came back to see how much has changed.
I've been enjoying it. Checking out the new subclasses. The gameplay is still solid. Even picked up a few of the DLC's when they went on sale.
I think what's also great about Destiny is, unlike more traditional MMO's, you can absolutely walk away for a few years, come back and not really miss a beat. Yeah, there's tons of campaigns, raids and side quests to do but none of them are absolutely necessary, unless there's a specific exotic tied to said content.
I'm happy doing whatever I feel like doing that day. Usually bounties.
Lack of any serious competitor for its player base throughout its lifecycle. Most other games that come along and manage to get a portion of the D2 player base die out within a couple months and don't have staying power. Bungie, despite all of it's flaws and terrible development of the game, still manages to have some of the best movement and shooting mechanics in the FPS genre. It also has enough varied loot, build crafting, and weapons to keep things interesting. So many games that come out now just have cookie cutter cardboard weapons that feel bland. The core game has always been solid, the biggest issue has always been Bungie.
Because the gameplay is super fun and there’s no other games similar to it. Games like warframe and the division that are the same “genre” don’t have similar gameplay at all
I started playing destiny right after release. They’re is many times I’ve been in and out of the game and I hate some of the things they have done to the game. But everytime I come back I remember why I loved it. The gunplay, the abilities, the locations, the raids. It all just works, and there’s so much to do. If they had added some of the helpful features earlier and not been so greedy sometimes this game would be great
Another thing for me is its impossible to get my friends into it because of how overwhelming and expensive it is
Because no other game feels this good to play. Then you add on the music, visuals, art design, raids and dungeons and the story.
Oh god, the rework to the story before D1s launch was a loooot more messy than was described in interviews.
I started playing it ever since it came to steam as F2P, and i have been playing ever since, the thing that keeps me coming back even after lile a month of a break is It's potential, we saw it with forsaken and witch queen
lol the eververse argument, like all microtransactions there has never been a single need to purchase a single one in the ten years of destiny , nothing but cosmetic drivel, never spent a single cent on silver in the game
Not just still alive, it is thriving.
It’s survived so long because what other games offer gunplay, abilities, movement, pve, pvp, hell even great customisation in the same game like destiny does. I’ve been looking for games like it for so long but nothing can ever come close to what destiny 2 has created. I’ll be sad to see it go when it really starts dying, whenever that might be
Been playing since November 2014 quit and came back that many times no game can get me hooked so quickly even though I've played it that much
For me games such as D2 are "the definition of insanity"
it might just be me, but this sounds like it was written or spoken by an AI, some lines just abruptly end or end in weird incoherent ways, for example: 8:46 just sounds artificial
No bad game lasts 10+ years.
I've only ly played 1 game since destiny came out for me it's the perfect blend of things , pvp, pve, puzzles mechanics teamwork lore, I know it's had it's dark times but for me the bang for the buck is there!
I started at alpha but I stopped playing after forsaken, I just had too many games begging for money at the time . I still follow it but I haven't played in a few years.
Simply put d2 offers something no other game can offer on the market. A lot of people left after lightfall dropped and subsequent seasons but season of the wish and the free into the light up date have brought people back.
The title of this should be “The history of the destiny franchise”
Gunplay, raids, dungeons, the endgame content, the sound design, the look .... D2 is still here bc. no other company could come close to a similar experience. Warframe is good too but in a different way
Because bungie knows how to make and manage a game, love em or hate them, can't deny that
I quit about 1.5 years ago but recently came back due to the lack of games grabbing my interest.
Same here bro
Yea me too. Plus the made it easy for us to catch with the into the light upgrade
Funny to call it’s legacy that if it’s competitors, if the Final Shape fails.
Especially considering that Destiny stands atop the skeletal remains of all its competition.
For me destiny has best mission desingn for any live service game. Strikes, dungeons and missions arr so fun to play
For all its mess ups D2 has always had a solid core experience, and bungie has done better than others went it comes to responding to player feedback. Granted the game has its problems but it always seems to bounce back, even in the face of numerous “destiny killers” that never live up to the name.
Man it’s simple. Forsaken-Witch Queen ,Taken King Season Of Opulence, Season of the Forge are the main reasons this game is alive.
I really enjoy playing this game solo. However, the community is like a clique and is very difficult to find good, helpful people when you are fairly new to content.
Im pretty sure without my name is Byf the game woukd have died a long time ago. Only reason many people are still playing is they grew up with this story and want to see its conclusion. The only reason any of us really understand much of the story exepct for witch queen an somewhat forsaken was because of the lore videos hooking us into this world bungie crafted but told so terribly.
All things considered, it probably is the best live service out there next to Warframe. Its repetitive, but the community is really keeps it going.
The gameplay has always been solid i just fell off because of the greed,but now that i got all the dlc free its a great game!
When there is no single player games out that interest me, i jump between warframe and destiny 2, they are fun and you can sink alot of time into them
Its funny because destiny bounces back and forth on that line of how well a live service can be and how bad it can be. It really showcases the good and the bad very well. I also think a lot of people including myself just didn't want to leave without finishing the story we started. But even more so destiny has always had and still does have so much potential to be more and that's the thing with most of the other live service games the "destiny killers" just don't have that feel to them. If you play them at least in my personal experience I don't get the feel that it could be more that it could go the distance. So many other live services just come out with something wrong just right at the base of the game the very core that the game is built on is bad and if the foundation your building on is bad then the result is everything else will crumble as well. Destiny is the opposite it's foundation is solid as hell it's always back and forth with what Bungie tries to build on its foundation that fails and sometimes it lands. Fingers crossed that final shape is going to be the expansion we hope it can be.
I wonder the same about a youtube channel with 1million subs, that gets like 10k views on average.
The community is strong
The community doesn't ever give up
And there's a good gameplay Loop and people love gameplay loops
Destiny 2 Community is most toxic & dumb of all communities
@rogueagent2477 You think the entire year has been a failure and can't stop telling people. You seem to be just as toxic and dumb as the people you're criticizing and it looks pathetic.
@@rogueagent2477 LoL, WoW… my point is, every community has its toxic element (even Destiny), but your claim is unfounded. There are many in the D2 community who take pains to carry new players-there’s even a badge in-game for it.
Community is dog shit 💩
@@rogueagent2477I would have to disagree I usually come back to D2 every couple years and I’ve never really ran into any overly toxic people but I also only play co op I would go with cod community by far that’s a toxic cesspool
I'll never take seriously someone who still uses double primary
Jokes aside, Destiny has truly held its ground and with The Final Shape, Bungie is coming in VERY hot to close the saga ❤
Personally I enjoyed Destiny 1 a lot more than I did destiny 2. Granted I played D1 all the way until D2 came out, and only played D2 early but still I was let down… I did throw down in the og trials tho 👀
If you have to ask urself how destiny 2 is still alive that’s how you know they doing something right cuz it’s the best fuckin game
They sunset a whole bunch of weapons, then "reversed" that decision and then slowly re-introduced the weapons that had been sunset by either reskinning or straight up just putting them back in the game. Weapons that most people dismantled, and now people are expected to grind for the same weapons AGAIN and be HAPPY about it??
How the fuck is this the best fucking game?
Where the gameplay at 6:20 from?
Start of the Red War campaign, at the beginning of the vanilla game's campaign. Hasn't been playable for a while. Cabal commanders (the Bond Brothers) in D1 sent an unknown signal to someone far away (from the crashed ship in the Dreadnaught) that was later found to be contacting the greater Cabal Empire, which, years later in D2, now have come to assault the Last City and Guardians as a whole. You try to defend the Tower as the Red Legion (Cabal led by Dominus Ghaul) attack the city and encase the Traveler in pursuit of gaining/controlling power from the Traveler. Later this casing suppresses Guardian powers when you first encounter Ghaul in a ship that Amanda Holiday flew you to and you fought through. You work to get back your powers and take down Ghaul, after you initial defeat, who is a danger to the entire solar system, threatening to blow up the Sun with a ship they have orbiting it (which we take care of later). Ghaul wants to know why weak humans were chosen instead of more powerful beings (such as himself or the Cabal race in general)- that they would have been more capable to defend it from danger. Speaker from D1 dies after being held hostage and interrogated about how to commune/communicate with the Traveler b/c he resists and insults them. We eventually fight Ghaul, after taking out a lot of generic Cabal leaders below him and bases/infrastructure they've setup, and he is able to use Light supers/powers against us. We do beat him but he gets more power suddenly and gets mega powerful right before us in a cinematic. Ghaul has siphoned so much "light-power" and basked in it that he grew massive, glowing, and more powerful. The Traveler "awakes", seeing the dire situation, and blasts the casing off of itself and destroys Ghaul in his ascended form. Ghaul is glad that he was finally recognized by the Traveler for which he tried so hard to communicate with and understand. Remnants of the Red Legion and their bases still linger in the system after that, and even now (in the EDZ).
Hope this gives you a good foundational understanding of the leading up to and events of Vanilla D2!
The craziest part is it still has so much untapped potential, the final shape with the new pismatic subclass we are just now seeing some of the craziness that is possible
FOMO for some part. I still play it casually, I loved the IP, but I despise the direction they have taken with Lightfall, by that I mean the "Guardians of the galaxy" canned lightheartedness, at the polar opposite of the solemnity that was the IP's signature. Hope they'll get some grip for the 10 years finale.
Lightfall was definitely rushed because they intended for one more dlc then changed to 2. TFS already seems much more serious in tone all around just by the trailers and vidocs.
I just have that destint 1 loyalty no matter how bad they shit on my warlock
Because it has some of the best gunplay in the history of gaming
Whole video is just bashing on Destiny. I like it cause in the end, Destiny is still somehow alive and with Final Shape just on the horizon, a lot of guardians and kinderguardians are playing and grinding for final loot and bounties. Prepping for the release.
We’ve been beaten to submission and have Stockholm syndrome
The Light is strong with Destiny!! But the darkness that is Live Service, Games as a Service needs to be EXPUNGED from all existence!!
The game is like someone's bad relationship. It's bad in some areas, it's good in some other areas and the good outweighs the bad eventhough the bad is more sound than the good. You wanna leave... but somehow you can't. That is Destiny in a nutshell. I applaud people who did leave for good though.
Worst take I’ve ever heard: “It’s ridiculous because the [Destiny] franchise had to be rebooted twice over…”
Like Warframe was rebooted twice over…
Like Call of Duty isn’t a franchise that has reinvented itself thrice over…
Like Magic the Gathering has undergone a myriad of transformations over 30 years of gameplay…
Like GTA Online didn’t have retcons over its live service years…
This is just lazy journalism at its finest. Nice opinion… Very invalid and biased, however.
Because for 10 years, there hasn't been a single PvE shooter that has came even remotely close to how good Destiny feels to play. Not 1.
It's simple. Destiny has one of the most loyal fanbase in gaming, in a bad way.
have you even played destiny?
Because the game is genuinely good maybe.
Bungie cares about the game if they didn't they wouldn't try to modify it in any way
Because Destiny may have some bad moments, it consistently comes back, fixes its problems and does things better, unlike it's competitors which either double down on bad decisions or abandon their projects.
Only reason I still play is because I’ve played since vanilla d1 when it came out when I was 12 and I want to see the end of the light vs dark saga idk if I’ll play destiny after this saga but we’ll see ig
End of saga is end of the game. When GTA 6 will be released everyone will forget about Destiny 2
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No.
@rogueagent2477 not by a long shot, plus that is a full year away so we won't know what will happen
Its still alive because, at its core, its fun to shoot stuff in the game. Even though we are shooting the dame stuff over and over again. Its FUN! My .02
There is nothing else much like it and even with it's flaws it is still good.
To me it's simple, the core gameplay feels good to play. That's literally it.
It is a certain something about the way the guns fire, sound design and all, the way movement works, abilities, etc... and just overall "feel" of the experience.. makes it really fun to play.
I agree that the systems around it are absolute dogshit, and if you've been playing since vanilla D1 like I have, you just know most of the complaints do not target the "feel" of the game, but rather the systems around it, be it reward structure, activities, etc etc...
Because there is always something to do
The ui is clean, i mean bungie game overall have clean ui
Seriously, because its an amazing game.
the most phoned in Destiny critique ive ever seen.
We still play destiny because there’s a story.
This must be a joke title? Everyone should know the destiny cycle by now I shouldn’t have to explain
Its a good game at its heart ig idek why i play its just fun be it raids or dungeons those are fun semi complex puzzles, high health bosses, communication, and it just being plain fun
What's the point of doing a video like this on a game you clearly don't like? It just feels like you're throwing shade at the fans for playing something they like and that's frankly just sad
I haven’t fully watched but I’m starting to feel that way
I quit and keep coming back. I know it’s bad for me, but just can’t quit for good
No on wants to love D2. But D2 loves us.😅
Sounds like a drug addiction.
That’s sad and pathetic
@@Ryder_OMEGA video games and drugs pretty much work the same. Hitting the pleasure centers. So, yeah…
@@Ligmanuttz couldn’t give a fuck less what you thought about it
The suspenseful story is what did it with great near addicting gun play and the dev team adding actual cool shit over the course of the years.
Tell me you know what lore cards are💀💀💀💀
Destiny is alive despite Bungie trying to murder it. Hopefully Sony replaces the execs at bungie if final shape fails, which is more likely than not if you study their track record
Guardians make our own fate and so does Destiny and the community are their issues with the game for sure plenty and the time it takes to fix is nuts at times.
But destiny is an experience unlike any other for most and this dlc will be the end for many. The old sucken cost fallacy or wishing to see such a journey to an end I’ve been playing this since the end of high school for me.
10 year journey for most of us; for good and bad this is our last huzzah maybe so we are a resilient bunch.
i think the number of players post final shape will tank if they come back with a new saga can almost guarantee itll be terrible
they frankly don't know what to do with the game
I wish a hunter could have ward of dawn. I still play Anthem.
So what will titan have if hunter has ward of dawn? Just because they mixed all our grenades and stuff together doesn’t mean we should merge supers, what’s the point of having classes then dumbass
Gonna answer before watching the video:
The game is fun, very fun. You can sink in thousands of hours and be far from done with the game. Yeah, getting into it is a bit pricey, but I think 100 bucks for over a thousand hours of gaming is a good tradeoff, and whoever says the opposite, is wrong.
Because its literally the best game ever on the market. It had 100K people playing on steam last weekend. its amazing and has endless replayability
😂😂😂😂
Good one lmao
still alive cuz is a good game,
People should stop playing the game if they dont like it...and then leave the rest of us who does alone.
Because it is good and it is bungie…
Well Bungie suck at everything. They cant make anything properly. 3,6 Billion Dollar Comp. my azz
The problem with D2 is its a money grubbing cash cow. Its very much pay to play but you get what you pay for and thats the trade. Throw cash at the company and theyl show you where it went. If you get the big daddy yearly expansion for 100 your set til the next one, compared to some MMOs 100 a year isnt too bad if you can afford it. I started when it went free for PS like 5 years ago and stuck with it. Now im big excite for Final Shape. These last 8 weeks they been on a roll what with Into the Light, The Pantheon, whisper, zero hour, and in game fireteam finder. Hopefully the road to project payback stays clean.
PvP made this game alive
I remember the last day I didn't know what Destiny was. Me and 3 of my boys were playing Modern Warfare 3 or maybe it was Infinite Warfare, the one with John Snow. We were in a lobby reading up and Suffer said "Queens, you gettiny Destiny tomorrow?" I said "whats that?" For the next half hour or so he gave me a crash course in Bungie, Halo and what he thought Destiny was gonna be like.
When he was done I was like "sounds cool but im not really into all that space sci-fi shit plus I'm broke." He convinced me to trade in a few games I wasnt playing anymore to GameStop and see how much off I could get and if i end up hating Destiny he'll get me those games back. I didnt want them back, there was a reason i wasnt playing them.
Ended up getting Destiny and store credit as I guess the games had value... Took Destiny 1 home with me that day and for the next 4 years straight.. it was literally all I played. I was a Call of Duty main since The Big Red 1 and since then I've only played the Modern Warfare remake campaign once through a couple years ago. I've put in more hours in Destiny 1 and 2 that I think I've put into gaming my entire life prior.
Destiny flipped a switch in me I didnt know was there and i became captivated with the lore, with the flavor text on weapons, the worlds, the connection I felt with my character and all the adventures we've been on.
I don't think I've ever been as invested in a game ever to be honest. Not as a kid playing as Samus though Super Metroid or Link in Ocarina. Destiny somehow became life. All those friends from the first day are all gone now but i still play and I am not as addicted in these last 5 years as i was in the first but i still play as often as i can. I'm glad i gave Destiny a chance.
Ocarina of Time my favorite game ever
Good gunplay/random roll gameplay loop
Because it has the best FPS gameplay. Way better than even CoD.
fomo reskins and nerfs of everything you grinded for to force you to grind the new reskin
D2 is still alive because its the only fps looter shooter we have.
Me when I don't answer a question I pose as if I have the answer to
Because its the best feeling game on the market. Sure it has content issue but it still feels better to play then 85% of the games made in the last 10 years.
I have quit for 4 years now and just recently decided to return due to the free content which allows you to see what all the dlcs are about. Well..not even 2 hours playing I have already decided to come back and have pre ordered the new upcoming dlc along with purchasing all the previous ones (of course at a massive discount price) Looks like Im back for awhile as I have a lot of content to dip my toes in.
Also a huge fan of Destiny's raids, so that's going to be exciting to get back into.
My condolences, you managed to get free, but they sank their claws into you and pulled you back in...
@StingBear well I've been playing Tarkov and out of the two Cancers. I think Destiny is a bit better lol
Welcome back ppl hate for no reason lmao its a fun game
@@Roadkillwastaken there's plenty of reason
@Roadkillwastaken I agree with you. I didn't quit due to hating it. I quit because I liked the game too much and as a lot of destiny players can relate. My wife didn't 😆