Spotify need to ban the entire artist if they investigate and they verify they stole two songs. Greying out only the songs involved in the dispute isn't enough.
The problem is tencent and spotify are related, so in essence it's spotify trying to take full monetization for a few of your songs, so they don't have to pay you for those ones. IOW, they're not going to remove the tencent "artists", because they're part of the collusion, AFAICT.
First time hearing about that music lawyer, maybe once your tour is over you could interview her and ask questions that bedroom musicians that watch you might find useful?
This just has happened to one of my band's albums a week or so ago. Someone took the entire album, pitch shifted it, uploaded it to all the streaming sites and gave us a copyright strike. We've disputed it which is ongoing, but just crazy that it can happen to small bands/artists too.
Spotify verified the songs were stolen and instead of banning the "artist" they just grey out the songs instead? At what point does it get bad enough that the "artist" gets banned? Also those smoky art in the background are amazing! Who's the artist that did them?
Glad to hear your songs are okay. This type of bullshit makes me so irritated, I hope the rest of the artists who got their music stolen get justice for this as well
Ola you’re one of the coolest people on the planet and I’m so glad to hear you legally were able to get your music taken off this thief’s site. LOVE the Game Over song and video it’s amazing! Pet Pix for me and I’m still loving my lefty Solar guitar after having it about a year!
Track #15 on there is Hollywood Woman by Guthrie Govan Also thought I should let you know that both of your tracks are still up on Deezer and maybe even Tidal and Itunes
That "wybie" needs to be erased from all platforms since it's basically a troll. Spotify must make a statement and this artist needs to be removed. If not, Spotify feels like a sketchy plattform where artists gets riped off with no consequences.
I'm glad to hear you're on the way to figure this shit out. As sad as it is to say, but this world is going down every day a little more. Stay Metal 🤘🏻
Much as I love chug videos, I am also very interested in the business side of all of it. In this digital world, it is easy to make music, but so much harder to make money as a professional. Whether its piracy, the scrum for ad revenue, trying to gain publicity and recognition when millions (potentially) are also in the game....its all quite daunting. It seems that things were much easier for our revered 60's through 90s icons who "merely" needed good music, attitude, and a good band manger.
This is going to happen more and more. There's virtually no repercussions. Worst thing that happens is after a month of making money off a stolen song, it gets grayed out.
If we make enough of a stink about it there's a bigger chance that Spotify has to response accordingly. Unfortunately it's mainly when it affects bigger companies that something actually happens. Bigger companies as in labels losing possible revenue.
Breaking news! Metal musician Ola Englund is taking Chinese mega corporation Tencent to court over what coincidentally enough also is their company name: 10 cents.
Years ago, I had someone who downloaded a video of me playing guitar and uploaded it as their own with ads and I got a copyright. It got resolved but the funny thing is I'm a nobody, why me 😂. Who the hell would want to do that.. 😆
There's a guy that used a royal free music on his youtube intro, someone got that intro part he used made a "song" registred and gave strike on all 100+ videos, the videos got erased and he could not prove that he used it before...
Hi Ola. Great to see you are getting somewhere with this. Just wanted to let you know that your songs are still available on RUclips Music under this artist.
Music is property... how can you just steal music without serious actions. If I steal a bike, some money or just anything then I have the police at the door.
Hey Ola, just wanted to let you know that I can still stream those 2 music on Spotify. They might have only blocked it in specific countries. Here in the Philippines(SEA), I can still play it.
That’s fucked! Here in America the songs have been completely taken down. They’re not just greyed out they have been taken off Spotify completely the album now says 20 songs instead of 22.
I wouldn't be surprised if that account is someone who works for Tencent. Keep up the good fight and make them know what it feels like to be (The) Haunted. Even if it had been one song YOU put in your heart (no typo) work and your body and soul and this A-hole pitch shifting it and claiming copyright is stomach turning and beyond evil. 🤬👊🏻
Hi Ola and community! Well, in times of AI (whatever I think about it and let me make that clear, it`s like the dog on a leash held an unsuitable handler: the much worse and utterly dangerous part of such combo is always at the top end of the leash!), I would think all those music and other content services/ corporations like Spotify, Amazon, Apple Music or whoever, would use AI to search and find illegal/ stolen content to block it or ban the thieves from their platforms! Obviously this seems not to be the case! This behaviour sure ignites and fuels my opinion, that they accept to earn the beloved share of bucks all those content/ licence and right thieves make from clicks, streamings and downloads, until the actual and legal creator/ author of the stolen content objects and initiates leagl action! This to me is also highly illiegal, as, should this be the case, the services concerned/ involved may neglect or even completely disregard their legal obligations to protect original artists and content producers! This could be just another case where greed is King as long as nobody intervenes, complains or takes legal action! 🤔🤨🙄😒🤕🤢🤮
I think it also goes by the key. To identify the songs, you'd have to download them and play with the pitch (and maybe tempo) to match it up and find the original song. For metal songs, it's start with drop tunings in common. Might have to try this.
@@chrispile3878 yeah, it pisses me off. It's basically their government and they rip off so many people constantly. That's why I refuse to buy their government products that are meant to be assumed 'free market' products (which they aren't)
@@chrispile3878 that's why I refuse to be Chinese products, they rip off so many people and sell sell a knock off version that someone else too the time and effort to develop. I hate it when youtubers promote these products as "cheaper version XYZ product" because they are supporting this behavior. It's ignorance. Also. The people making them are basically slaves. Another reason to boycott Chinese made products: the lack of ethics and rights of workers over there. I won't support it.
@@chrispile3878they keep deleting my reply,, hmm. China rips off many designs and intellectual property and resells then for cheaper. It's theft. I can't stand when ignorant youtubers promote this as "cheaper XYZ product" they are supporting theft.
I'm glad you took action on this musician for stealing your music. Your music should be yours for musicians to enjoy listening to not stealing and posting g on RUclips as your own. That's just wrong.
None of those companies give 2 shitz long as they are getting paid from your hard work. Remember ceo said if you guys want more money then make more music. He is getting paid no matter what
Hi Ola Englund. My song "Ancient winter" with my band WOTANS QUEST is to my surprise now for sale in appel music as a part on 8 seconds?? The number is 7:42 minuttes long I have put it out on spotify but in full lengt. So what is going on here. Maybe you have an idea. Best regards Michael Wotan Høyberg
I think the scary part of this is... Ola is a well known artist approaching 1M subscribers. I don't think your average artist would 1. Have known it was even happening 2. Would have gotten as quick a response from the platforms.
Hi Ola, I don’t know the other artists, but I’m gonna do some digging and see if I can find at least one of them. If successful, may I refer them to you so that they can get some pointers on how to proceed?
Well, that's progress, I guess. Not entirely satisfying but a step in the right direction. Maybe Century Media has a legal manager you could talk to. Piracy is a scourge that'll be hard to eliminate.
Well, I'm glad Spotify was at least willing to remove the stolen songs. As others have pointed out, it seems the entire "album", or even the artist, should be removed (while investigating and then permanently once the investigation concludes). Unfortunately, Spotify makes money from those other songs and won't remove in-bulk; just like the damn US phone companies who let scammers buy/lease huge blocks of telephone numbers to mass-spam their "donate" scam texts. The phone companies are making money from the scammers, so why remove that revenue stream in-bulk, when they can (slowly) remove each offending phone number due to complaints. Can you tell I'm a US citizen who just went through a huge election?
China is still an extraterritorial region for international copyright and intellectual property rights. In China, you can buy all of Nueral's VST packages online for less than $5.
Great video, thanks for letting us know about this guy. Also sorry you were a victim! Theres been a increase in these chinese scams/bots where they upload somebody elses content then try to steal the money revenue from it by doing this exact stunt and try to go un-noticed. Talentless smucks to say the least. Hope you have a great day! Stay Chugging!
The thing is, if all of us 878k subscribers check out this Wybie guys album, he will get hell lot of streams, which will only gain his ugly purposes. I don't want to do that...
Random Chinese company with a copywrite claim report feature on their website? Pfft. They probably copy and pasted someone else's website, and didn't bother deleting that bit.
China tends to have a lot of people who intentionally violate international copyright and trademark laws, and they’re able to get away with it a lot of times since the CCP probably enables it.
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Spotify need to ban the entire artist if they investigate and they verify they stole two songs. Greying out only the songs involved in the dispute isn't enough.
I agree. they knew what they were doing its not like it was a mistake hahhaa
Agreed .
The problem is tencent and spotify are related, so in essence it's spotify trying to take full monetization for a few of your songs, so they don't have to pay you for those ones. IOW, they're not going to remove the tencent "artists", because they're part of the collusion, AFAICT.
Spotify only cares about making money from streams - most definitely not about artists or their rights.
They need to ban the artist from Spotify
Coffee with Top Music Attorney
The chick with a streak in her hair? Yes, please.
Absolutely. Even if it's on tele-video, that'd be a terrific followup.
❤❤❤ that would be great she is amazing
Yes!
Fantastic post! I'd love to see that!
First time hearing about that music lawyer, maybe once your tour is over you could interview her and ask questions that bedroom musicians that watch you might find useful?
That would be quite interesting,+1 here
Love this idea. If her channel had been a thing 20 years ago I'd had found it easier chasing labels, I reckon.
This just has happened to one of my band's albums a week or so ago. Someone took the entire album, pitch shifted it, uploaded it to all the streaming sites and gave us a copyright strike. We've disputed it which is ongoing, but just crazy that it can happen to small bands/artists too.
That's fucking irritaring. Sorry that happends.
Mind telling us the band name so we can go look for it and report the thief?
What I found:
3. track: Spiro - Python
8. track: Marcus Miller - Detroit
I did the same thing and got the same results, my fellow Shazzam user. :)
Spotify verified the songs were stolen and instead of banning the "artist" they just grey out the songs instead? At what point does it get bad enough that the "artist" gets banned?
Also those smoky art in the background are amazing! Who's the artist that did them?
Spotify only cares about making money from streams - most definitely not about artists or their rights.
Tencent has been a global cancer for years now. Glad your songs are yours again but they should've punished the artist/publisher more.
Tencent music is partnered with spotify, so good you got them to take it down, but that's also why they'll drag their feet unless they get called out
Watched some Top Music Attorney. What an incredibly scummy industry
Gotta love the internet! Everyone working together to help Ola!! ❤ where is the streaming service made for artists by artists?
Glad to hear your songs are okay. This type of bullshit makes me so irritated, I hope the rest of the artists who got their music stolen get justice for this as well
Greyed out?
Ask a friend in a different country to see if they are greyed out there.... Its possible that it may be blocked only in your area....
I checked and in Ontario Canada they're also greyed out. Not sure about other places though.
I checked Out in Germany. The Songs are Not longer listet.
@@domkillstrm8024 Ola for the win!!
If you have a VPN, you can change your location and check that way as well.
i saw her video when it was fresh and hoped you'd see it as well... nice to hear that things are moving forwards!
This whole episode has really frustrated me. It’s just such a disgrace
Ola you’re one of the coolest people on the planet and I’m so glad to hear you legally were able to get your music taken off this thief’s site. LOVE the Game Over song and video it’s amazing! Pet Pix for me and I’m still loving my lefty Solar guitar after having it about a year!
Track #15 on there is Hollywood Woman by Guthrie Govan
Also thought I should let you know that both of your tracks are still up on Deezer and maybe even Tidal and Itunes
Chinese reach that point to pirating music under their own name… shame that fake artist stilling music
Don't forget that he also has those songs on other streaming platforms, like RUclips Music.
That "wybie" needs to be erased from all platforms since it's basically a troll. Spotify must make a statement and this artist needs to be removed. If not, Spotify feels like a sketchy plattform where artists gets riped off with no consequences.
yess, really happy for you my friend, I just don't understand how people can steal other artist music I just can't. Greetings from Bristol UK 🤟🤟🤟
Fighting the good fight! Thanks for suggesting others reach out to artists to let them know if their music is being stolen.
perfect opportunity for a "PLEASE RESPONG !" thumbnail
I'm glad to hear you're on the way to figure this shit out. As sad as it is to say, but this world is going down every day a little more. Stay Metal 🤘🏻
Much as I love chug videos, I am also very interested in the business side of all of it. In this digital world, it is easy to make music, but so much harder to make money as a professional. Whether its piracy, the scrum for ad revenue, trying to gain publicity and recognition when millions (potentially) are also in the game....its all quite daunting. It seems that things were much easier for our revered 60's through 90s icons who "merely" needed good music, attitude, and a good band manger.
This is going to happen more and more. There's virtually no repercussions. Worst thing that happens is after a month of making money off a stolen song, it gets grayed out.
If we make enough of a stink about it there's a bigger chance that Spotify has to response accordingly. Unfortunately it's mainly when it affects bigger companies that something actually happens. Bigger companies as in labels losing possible revenue.
Tencent is notorious for doing shady shit in the gaming industry. Hopefully you get a suit and get paid... they have plenty of it
Sue the ass off of all of them Ola.Get your money back
Breaking news! Metal musician Ola Englund is taking Chinese mega corporation Tencent to court over what coincidentally enough also is their company name: 10 cents.
I'm glad at least u got ur songs off that person's site. You rock Ola!
Years ago, I had someone who downloaded a video of me playing guitar and uploaded it as their own with ads and I got a copyright. It got resolved but the funny thing is I'm a nobody, why me 😂. Who the hell would want to do that.. 😆
High five Ola! Great job and super happy there was some positive action happening. Thanks for the update and Chug on 🤘🔥🧡🔥🤘
There's a guy that used a royal free music on his youtube intro, someone got that intro part he used made a "song" registred and gave strike on all 100+ videos, the videos got erased and he could not prove that he used it before...
Hi Ola. Great to see you are getting somewhere with this. Just wanted to let you know that your songs are still available on RUclips Music under this artist.
Great to hear! 🤘🤙
Thank you, for your fight.
Every artist need to be paid for their work and stealing is still a crime no matter how is done!
Good lookin out Ola! Keep on shredding !
Music is property... how can you just steal music without serious actions. If I steal a bike, some money or just anything then I have the police at the door.
Hey Ola, just wanted to let you know that I can still stream those 2 music on Spotify. They might have only blocked it in specific countries. Here in the Philippines(SEA), I can still play it.
What the hell!!!
That’s fucked! Here in America the songs have been completely taken down. They’re not just greyed out they have been taken off Spotify completely the album now says 20 songs instead of 22.
It's greyed out on my desktop client, but not on mobile (yet). Weird.
It's greyed out in Japan though
I wouldn't be surprised if that account is someone who works for Tencent. Keep up the good fight and make them know what it feels like to be (The) Haunted. Even if it had been one song YOU put in your heart (no typo) work and your body and soul and this A-hole pitch shifting it and claiming copyright is stomach turning and beyond evil. 🤬👊🏻
I watched Game Over on Premier and damn... I'm addicted to it. The song and the animation are sick \m/
The 3rd song on this wybie album is actually Sprio - song Python that was used for a Jackson video.
That blows man … good luck. Seems You predicted this with “Please Respong”
There is no songs greyed out on that wybie album in Australia
Hello All,
I found a rip off of your solar guitars for sale on a site . How do I send you the link ? I won't repost the link or company here.
So glad you got justice my friend❤🙏
I love youtube, I love copyright lawyers, I love judges
I sincerely hope they never end up in a showtrial
Glad you got this sorted my guy!
Great job!
A Chinese company that doesn't respect copyrigt seems really out of character.
If you check out those tracks to try and identify I'm pretty sure wybie will not be paid if you cut out before 30 seconds of each song.
Unfortunately
Thieves never answer
It's ridiculous you even have to go through this. There's a special place in GC Hell for Wybie and people like him.
Same place for those people that steal gear from musicians!
Hi Ola and community!
Well, in times of AI (whatever I think about it and let me make that clear, it`s like the dog on a leash held an unsuitable handler: the much worse and utterly dangerous part of such combo is always at the top end of the leash!), I would think all those music and other content services/ corporations like Spotify, Amazon, Apple Music or whoever, would use AI to search and find illegal/ stolen content to block it or ban the thieves from their platforms!
Obviously this seems not to be the case!
This behaviour sure ignites and fuels my opinion, that they accept to earn the beloved share of bucks all those content/ licence and right thieves make from clicks, streamings and downloads, until the actual and legal creator/ author of the stolen content objects and initiates leagl action!
This to me is also highly illiegal, as, should this be the case, the services concerned/ involved may neglect or even completely disregard their legal obligations to protect original artists and content producers!
This could be just another case where greed is King as long as nobody intervenes, complains or takes legal action!
🤔🤨🙄😒🤕🤢🤮
Great job, Ola. Squash that crap quick.
Hey Ola!
Can you share a link to the Spotify playlist?
Does the 'Shazam' app recognise any of the tracks, or does it get tricked by a slight tempo/pitch alteration?
I think it also goes by the key. To identify the songs, you'd have to download them and play with the pitch (and maybe tempo) to match it up and find the original song. For metal songs, it's start with drop tunings in common. Might have to try this.
Pretty cool you sorted somewhat of that ugly thing,also your new song is 🔥🔥🤘. Appreciate it man
He wasn't an artist - he was a THIEF!
Its not a person, it's Chinese corporation that makes AI that does this. They own most of the internet. Social media.
@@realtruenorth Sounds like the truth to me.
@@chrispile3878 yeah, it pisses me off. It's basically their government and they rip off so many people constantly. That's why I refuse to buy their government products that are meant to be assumed 'free market' products (which they aren't)
@@chrispile3878 that's why I refuse to be Chinese products, they rip off so many people and sell sell a knock off version that someone else too the time and effort to develop. I hate it when youtubers promote these products as "cheaper version XYZ product" because they are supporting this behavior. It's ignorance. Also. The people making them are basically slaves. Another reason to boycott Chinese made products: the lack of ethics and rights of workers over there. I won't support it.
@@chrispile3878they keep deleting my reply,, hmm. China rips off many designs and intellectual property and resells then for cheaper. It's theft. I can't stand when ignorant youtubers promote this as "cheaper XYZ product" they are supporting theft.
Does the app shazam still work?
You could just check what results it would give you...
I'm glad you took action on this musician for stealing your music. Your music should be yours for musicians to enjoy listening to not stealing and posting g on RUclips as your own. That's just wrong.
I hate thieves. Where did you get those awesome wall pictures on the wall in back of you?
Gotta go the legal route,sue them
None of those companies give 2 shitz long as they are getting paid from your hard work. Remember ceo said if you guys want more money then make more music. He is getting paid no matter what
So do you get proper royalties?
Hi Ola Englund.
My song "Ancient winter" with my band WOTANS QUEST is to my surprise now for sale in appel music as a part on 8 seconds?? The number is 7:42 minuttes long I have put it out on spotify but in full lengt. So what is going on here. Maybe you have an idea.
Best regards Michael Wotan Høyberg
You should probably message your distributor and ask instead
Ola Where did you get those kick ass paintings on the wall behind you?
The guy that does his tattoos I believe
Spotify facilitated the ripoff in the first place. Rotten business practices.
I think the scary part of this is... Ola is a well known artist approaching 1M subscribers. I don't think your average artist would 1. Have known it was even happening 2. Would have gotten as quick a response from the platforms.
Spotify should re direct it to your song
track 8 is for sure just a marcus miller song.
Hi Ola,
I don’t know the other artists, but I’m gonna do some digging and see if I can find at least one of them.
If successful, may I refer them to you so that they can get some pointers on how to proceed?
Well, that's progress, I guess. Not entirely satisfying but a step in the right direction. Maybe Century Media has a legal manager you could talk to. Piracy is a scourge that'll be hard to eliminate.
No Respongs?
The question is, how many other ghost profiles have the same song under a different name and song title still generating revenue...
They are doing this with red clay strays also
Well, I'm glad Spotify was at least willing to remove the stolen songs. As others have pointed out, it seems the entire "album", or even the artist, should be removed (while investigating and then permanently once the investigation concludes). Unfortunately, Spotify makes money from those other songs and won't remove in-bulk; just like the damn US phone companies who let scammers buy/lease huge blocks of telephone numbers to mass-spam their "donate" scam texts. The phone companies are making money from the scammers, so why remove that revenue stream in-bulk, when they can (slowly) remove each offending phone number due to complaints. Can you tell I'm a US citizen who just went through a huge election?
One of the songs i think is from Plini
China is still an extraterritorial region for international copyright and intellectual property rights. In China, you can buy all of Nueral's VST packages online for less than $5.
Well, if you are satisfied with the results you are getting..
That's cool then. Good idea to listen and notify original artists.
Så bra att vinner striden😎🤘🎶
Its crazy how easy it is to steal... Im glad it got resolved for you though Ola!
Great video, thanks for letting us know about this guy. Also sorry you were a victim! Theres been a increase in these chinese scams/bots where they upload somebody elses content then try to steal the money revenue from it by doing this exact stunt and try to go un-noticed. Talentless smucks to say the least. Hope you have a great day! Stay Chugging!
Ola, The Enlightener
They probably don't care. Sorry about that Ola!
Hello Ola .
The thing is, if all of us 878k subscribers check out this Wybie guys album, he will get hell lot of streams, which will only gain his ugly purposes. I don't want to do that...
The rest of the songs on that list were probably lifted from other artists too.
Will Shazam work on those songs?
Random Chinese company with a copywrite claim report feature on their website? Pfft. They probably copy and pasted someone else's website, and didn't bother deleting that bit.
China tends to have a lot of people who intentionally violate international copyright and trademark laws, and they’re able to get away with it a lot of times since the CCP probably enables it.
No respong?!
I got your mouse mat last night to show a little support.
Good to see some baby steps being taken. They should be banned.
Visions.. torn..2003
This sounds like something Glenn Fricker should be yelling at us about
Awesome man!
You have 800k subs. Everyone else is screwed ... We have no rights . That's the whole shit about the way music works now.. it all sucks
Everything is dying... The internet doesn't actually help musicians it kills music
you are a good man...
Awesome !!!!
Big chugs in the chat.
How can I put it politely... IP in China is a little different...