Dark Souls Story ► Nito and the Undead Curse
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
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Just when you thought you knew everything!
Apologies for the delayed upload, I took a week off from videos because of health problems, then my internet was capped when I went to upload. I might have another video up in the next few days to make up for it!
Check out Dave's interpretation of Nito's Lore! This video was partly inspired by the following video: • Dark Lords - Dark Soul...
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In other games if you have the title of "Lord of Death" you must be the main villan but in dark souls nito is just there and neutral waiting for people to die and chilling with his dead homies lmao
Which makes sense doesn't it? Reminds me of Hades, the lord of Death is only as evil as the lord of Life
Your profile tho catarina
Don't forget having raves constantly.
In the domain of the Ravelord, the rave never ends
@@penitentpotato1344 you’re thinking of Thanatos, hades is just the lord of the underworld.
@@vengarlof7033 Yes that was me 4 months ago, I have since found myself corrected. Thanks anyway though
When I barely knew anything about Dark Souls, I thought Nito was the final boss. He looks so Final Boss-y.
Him seriously what about qwyn he shoots fucking lightning bolts
@@rangopistacho6928 Nito controls the realm of the dead. That's a lot more rad
@@fatloser1780 eh. Let's say this game was based on Christianity... who should be the final boss? I'd think God, not Satan
@@NoName-cz3wnCone whos more satanic, a man who branded those he feared with a curse that turns them into soulless feral creatures. or a man that wants to chill with his dead homies. Also, Christianity is a poor analogy anyway considering there are multiple gods.
Same
I've watched all of these videos at least 3 times. Still no idea what the fuck is going on.
how?
there is a huge amount of crossover between videos.
Same
+DontFeedTheGaben I AGREE LOL
You also get super high and start seeing dragons and shit.
I just realized something... Doesn't it... Kinda look like Nito's back is covered in a cloak of Humanity? :o
Gold-And-Steel yup
I was _wondering_ What that was. I was thinking it was, like, a fur coat or something. Some eldritch thing that would have evolved into a bear or whatever.
I thought it looked "Abyss-y"
He’s supposed to have that much humanity it’s literally bursting out his form.
Talk Friday well Humanity and the Abyss are one and the same
Mind = Blown
Heart = Confused
Solaire = Badass
Playing this game made my mind small and confused...
***** I know how you fell wen I started = ok find the fate of the undead, now I remember that the game has no answer, looking at the trailers of dark souls 2 I guess we will find out in the 2º game, but I fear that we may not like the answer
***** LoL.! Know that feel bro haha..
Dogyphil indeed my friend \[T]/
Sif = Dead
You're very welcome. I enjoy making them, and having this channel has brought me a lot of happiness :) Thank you all for watching.
Your welcome
Epic
you going to remaster this or what?
Big Hungus
Great vid
Could it be possible that the dark soul was the main source of fuel for the first flame to continue on burning for eternity, but when the pygmy took it, the flame could no longer sustain itself?
Considering the Pygmy found it within the flame, it's possible. Humanity is the pieces and remnants of the dark soul, and thus feeding the fire this missing piece satiates it. Never thought about that
No wonder the pygmy found the dark soul last and the first flame started to diminish
@Fright Wright unfortunately that's probably not the case. The Ringed City DLC confirmed that the Dark Soul was actually found about the same time as the rest. The Ringed Knights fought beside the rest but Gwen feared the Dark Soul and placed the curse upon humans to limit their power. Basically the curse is because Gwen didn't want humanity to take over after his age of fire ended.
@CIAN HORNBY but it's thepieces of the dark soul (humanity) that satiates the bonfire and the first flame.
Wtf bro, you just blew my mind. I’d like to ad that the other Lord Souls could have served the same function, but to a lesser degree.
After watching all these. All these individual stories behind every single little aspect of the game. Including the gameplay. music setting, graphics, art design etc.
Really makes me feel like the Souls series is one of the greatest if not THE greatest video game series' of all time.
Amen to that. I feel that every time I go on a hunt for lore videos of the Souls series, I discover something new about it. It's like the depth of the story and history across the Souls' spectrum has no ending. It's fascinating that all this originated in the minds of a few game developers and I sorely wish that the entire history of Boletaria, Lordran and Drangleic was published in a book or something.
you got that right
I got to admit, this game is pretty fucking sweet. 10/10 would hollow again.
Lemonardo Decapro Play the Legend of Zelda. haha Dark souls? greatest series of all time? That gave me a good laugh.
Eww Legend of Zelda too overrated.
R.I.P Ravelord Nito
is good to be ravelord servant you get acid crack eyes for free
Brokeback, concussion
Dark souls 1 humanity
Dark souls 2 curse
Dark souls 3 fire
Humanity is cursed by the fire
Let the flame fade to lift the undead curse, so simple :)
Isn't the point of the Lords of Cinder to reignite the First Flame as well as Kindling it? It's why the second game alternate ending is to simply the Throne instead of taking it, as taking it means you'll now become either yet another Undead that gives themselves to the Flame or leave to begin an Age of Dark, but even the Age of Dark has to end, and it's end is with the Reignition of the First Flame by those who reject the Dark because the Undead Curse is still in effect and thus the cycle continues. Leaving the Throne was symbolizing the desire to break that cycle between Fire and Dark and to continue traveling the world to find a permanent solution.
@@leoncoben6983 Thing is, if my memory serves me right, the canon ending of the first two games is and always was the linking of the fire. The age of dark never happened until ds3, which is why it's the last one, cuz the age of fire is over. And lords of cinders are those who ONCE linked the flame.
And i recall seeing that gwyn actually linked humans to the flame and forced it to be its kindle, hence, making the flame leech off humanity and brings forth the curse. If you let the flame fade, humanity will "grow" back its soul and become the heirs of the dark age. If i remember correctly.
That is quite the simple solution. I don’t know why everyone keeps on grasping towards the old age of fire. It was a time that was meant to pass and not stay permanently. Yet because the of the curse or Gwyns fear of darkness such curse exists until the 3rd part which is like 1000 or so years after Gwyn linked the fire himself.
@@hpmasterswagestgames985 Pretty much yeah :)
@@TheLostOne3243 i mean, the ending for the first game could really be any of the 2 endings, if you didn't link the fire, it doesn't matter, someone else will after you, if you did, ok, you'll burn out and the cycle continues, it's just an endless loop as dark souls 3 suggests, no matter what you do, the end will always be the same, someone, or something will continue the cycle
Damn what a crappy world to live in.
I know right
It could be worse, they could be in USA
A Derp ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡ °) Oh Brother...
Dark Souls world and Warhammer 40k are fiercely fighting for the title of the shittiest setting to live in.
Well what's worse, becoming hollow in the DS world, or turning into some insane wolf-thing in Bloodborne and all the Elder Alien madness?
Its worth noting that in DS2 Papa Nito makes the Fenito, Milfanito and the little ones to soothe those who cannot die into a peaceful slumber in lieu of death, and given that humanity isnt a feature in DS2 it seems that he's doing all these because hes an all round top bloke
Good point. I just wish they give them a different name. Not just because the world "milf" is in the name but the name just sounds kind of silly and out of place. Also I can't help but think of the cookie brand Sausalito.
I mean he lets you keep the grave lord sword dance spells when you leave his covenant, as apposed to Gwyndolin who revokes his spells. Plus he encourages people to work together! (Via cursing their worlds, but y'know)
@@jamesbiggs8397 and he has also one of the most apreciable weapon of the game imho, già sword has a very interesting moveset
The Milfanito are clearly sad and miserable though, and they live in squalor, and the Finito note that they "weave death," which likely means that they murder people. Nito's own covenant in Dark Souls 1 mainly seemed to be geared for tormenting others with Gravelord enemies, and even tormenting the Gravelord Servants by forcing them to sit around with no idea what was happening, all the while hoping that if they got invaded it wasn't by someone using an eye stone. Also, Humanity does exist in Dark Souls 2, in the form of the Human Effigies.
In terms of the game, going Hollow works quite well. I always thought how nonsensical Oscar's words were: "First I'll die, then lose my sanity".
The creators knew they were building a game that would lead many people to be challenged. To me it seems you go hollow when you give up on a purpose. Since there is no life-limit, the only way to truly lose is to give up entirely, thus losing your purpose / sanity and becoming hollow.
Also, Lautrec and his party seem to me like an NPC equivalent to the gangs of people who wait for people to invade in Anor Londo. Maybe they knew how popular that method / location would be?
I think the only thing that could make all of this more clear is if the player is away from the game for a long period (as in, give up on the game) of time while hollow, NPCs in the game will start dying as your character has no motivation as you do not control your character's will anymore, you don't constantly push them further towards their end goal.
But that wouldn't be very fun, would it?
I always thought Lautrec was there because he killed the fire keeper at Anor Londo.
pbhtllt when you invade Lautrec world it looks dark as ours does when attacking the image of gwenevere. And I meant he seems to be killing fire keepers so I meant he went there to kill that fire keeper as well and take her soul for whatever purpose
pbhtllt we kill her in our world but what about his?
Well from the player perspective, both games are focused on the curse. The player character's first main issue is the curse and the will to find a way to remove it. That's the starting point. Now the story takes us to different directions, involving us in higher matters. Until the point that we even start forgetting why did we set out on this jurney. Completing some ultimate goals that we didn't even knew anything about when we started walking our first steps. We didn't want to save the world, we didn't want to rule, we didn't want to be part of a big deal. We started walking simply because we wanted to exist. Well it feels like we are dead and we woke up in some kind of purgatory. And death is our curse. While we struggle to chase away the dark with fire, because we're too afraid to accept the comfort of the dark abyss and accept the inevitable.
So it's just like real life. Thanks.
@@peelsreklaw scary tough AND real as fuck!!!
@Nemanja Mitric for me ut was about giving eyes to the fire keeper and let the flame finally go out. It was the true ending for me. It had to end. In the far future there might be a new beginning. But it all ended there for me
I may be a bit late with my comment but i only recently played Dark Souls 2 and then one.. ( havent played third one yet, please no spoilers, will do this days when i complete ng+ and ng++ on DS2 as i did on the first one xD ) .. anyway i may be very wrong in my interpretation but i had a nagging feeling from somewhere the middle of DS2 playthrough that everybody is actually dead and all of that is purgatory and that somehow dead people were cursed with not completely dieing and made somekind of civilisation ( multiple civilisations that is ) in purgatory instead of moving on where ever souls go after death.
Like Death is somehow "broken" ... ( kinda...think of a main character in movie sixth sense on global scale ) ... everybody will sooner or later be cursed and either end up hollow if looses purpose...or if purpose is not lost, chase that purpose to ridiculous lengths ( DS1 kinda also fits in that theory ...just look at Solaire and his purpose, or look at Logan and how he got mad reaching his purpose...and other characters as well ).
In DS2 many characters remember of having "a life" before coming 'to this land' and some specifically dont remember how they got there...maybe Lucatiel died by some bandits on the side of the road while searching for her brother...Chloanne remembers a bit of her father, maybe she got a pneumonia and died and anded up in this land as well as her father ( the blacksmith ) died from other causes, they are on verge of recognizing eachother but never do.
Also the intro animation for Dark Souls 2 to me looks like moment of dieing in the forest in real world and "crossing over" ( as in myths maybe that boat and the lake should remind of the river Styx..) into purgatory for the main character...
Maybe Gwyn and the crew "broke" something in the very fabric of the world by killing dragons...and apparently primordial serpens are also in on it.
After played both games it still seems to me that world of Dark Souls is a broken purgatory into which people that die in normal world come but never leave and continue to "heaven" or whatever... because its broken and corrupted... and everybody is fighting for souls which actually should leave purgatory and go on but never do and just circle around.
@@DreamskyDance very good observations :) Indeed, there is no doubt in my mind that the entire world is in decay because of not letting go. Which is why I chose what I did chose for the ending in DS3. You can observe that every character you meet , either has a goal or purpose to achieve or just roam the world eternally without a purpose, becoming hollow inside. Those who realise their goal... they die, peacefully and dissapear. Those who failed on their journey, roam around eternally, cursed and hollow. The whole story for the gods was about the gods themselves fearing death. The world is begging for it's passing, it's decay is sad and melancholic. Without spoilers... there might be light in the far future. a new cycle perhaps. But for that... there will be needed eyes to see what the world became. I'm not telling you anything about that, you will know more in DS3 :)
I don't know about you guys, but I think this video was fairly...Neat-o *puts on sunglasses*
frostfire lol
Where is the dark souls book of puns
yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaah
+frostfire If he ever tries to hide, you could say he's going incog-Nito!
Nouj LOL
5:27 speechless from how creative and impressive this shot is, good job!
Fallout Hunter ???
I just found Fallout Hunter's channel, he is like 12, has no subscribers and talks like he actually has viewers. My fuckin' God, that's hilarious.
+EpicAMV911 That escalated quickly.
that kid also has a video in his liked vids that is called "belly rub" which depicts a morbidity obese lady having a belly rub.
jeez all i did was compliment good camera work and started a civil war
Yes, I think that your role as a cursed undead fighting through the world is going to be the overall theme of the game. Finding a cure and living with the curse..I think that's what we'll see.
This game goes so damn deep into story
Decropolis WHEN DOES THE STORY ACTUALLY BEGIN? BECAUSE I'VE RAN THE 2ND BELL AND THE GAME JUST SEEMS LIKE IT GOES ON AND ON. I LOVED BLOODBORNE'S LORE, IS DARK SOULS SIMILAR TO THAT?
CAPS LOCK CARL Read the items, and the lore is very different from Bloodborne's
Jordan Bell I DO READ THE ITEMS. IT DOESN'T EXPLAIN SHIT. I UNDERSTAND THAT IN BLOODBORNE EVERYTHING EVENTUALLY COMES TOGETHER. I'VE SPOKEN TO THE TALKING SERPENT IN FIRELINK AND I HAVE TO DEFEAT THE BOSS IN SEN'S FORTRESS. MAYBE AFTER THAT, THEN.
CAPS LOCK CARL Dark Souls doesn't actually have much of an in game story. What it does have is a vast lore and an ambiguous backstory. To understand it better you gotta read all the item descriptions, pay attention to the dialogues you can have with the NPCs and keep an eye out for subliminal messages. Most of its lore is interpretative, so you'll have to work your mind in order to get what's happening in the game. You can also watch some lore videos like this one.
CAPS LOCK CARL If you have 24/7 caps... THEN HOW AEW YOU ABLE TO WRITE . AND , ?!
I can really appreciate how much effort went into each characters back stories, even if I didn't really realise that until now.
+Mattcha you didn't realize because there was hardly any evidence, there are so many explanations to dark souls lore, this seems to be the one that makes a lot of sense
Thanks and thanks! The artist is in the description :) I'm really happy with how the channel is shaping up
Dude you missed the opportunity to say “prepare to die”
Coming back in 2019 because dark souls is forever a part of me...
So true
@@xxCOMBATzz coming back september 2020 because someone replied to your comment and who knows the world might end soon.
And I'll continue to play until the end. Maybe in death I can find my friends, again.
I'll be uploading it infrequently, because demand for it isn't as high. I never implied that I stopped making it! I should have Ostrava's episode done soon.
Do you guys know what ravelord Nito's favorite song is?
Bonfire
That was good, sent me cracking.
+Soulless_ _ Lol.
+Soulless_ _ I thought you were going to say Spooky Scary Skellingtons
+Soulless_ _ His favourite genre is Death Metal though.
Vaughn Monger I said ravelord not gravelord didn't I?
In the age of dopeness, the world was super strict… clouded by fog.
A land of suburbs, mansions, and everlasting po-po.
But then there was dank, and with it came disparity.
High, and low.
Trippin, and stable.
And of course, Po, and Ghetto.
Creatures approached, and found the souls of gangstas in the fire.
Nito, Ravelord of the Club.
The Bitch of Izalith, and her clique.
Gwyn, lord of the Dank, and his faithful crew.
With the souls of gangstas they challenged the po-po.
Gryn’s mighty weed tore apart their police cars.
The Bitch of Izalith weaved great shitstorms.
Nito spread a great miasma of acid and dank.
And Officer Jenkins betrayed his own, and the Po-Po were no more.
Thus began the age of dankness.
But soon, the dank will fade, and only law will remain.
Even now, there are only ganja seeds, and the playas aint high, only endless sobreity.
And amongst the gangstas are seen, the accursed “Party Pooper Sign”
AND NOW THE SEEDS OF THE DANK EMBERS SLOWLY UNTO THE EVER EXISTANCE OF THAT WHICH IS DANK SOULS 3
Ds3 is the representation of dankness and corrupt cops
would play da shit out of Dank Douls
clever and funny
hahaha!
Maybe I'm just seeing things, but when the pigmy is standing, his shadow looks a lot like a human fetus growing.
Oh my god you're right!
Holy shit. But I bet its just a coincidence.
It might be, but bare in mind that this is the first human.
SuperAffenbrot It's probably a subliminal message. A symbolism I would say. There's a lot of that in Dark Souls.
(Vaati Voice) And as we go further in the future, we found out that Nito does have a descendant, his name is Mag-Nito. : P
I am waiting for the day to see you have the most likes any comment ever had. *hmmm still waiting hmmm*
*turns hollow*
Lmfao. Holy shit.
I read those "mmmm"s in siegward's voice
X-souls spoilers?
And thus starts the age of pokemon
Does anybody know what are the gods even? As in, what would you call their race? They are not humans, because humans were created after Pygmy claimed the dark soul (and the god race is taller than the comparative Pygmy, so humans would be as well). And they aren't just gods, because they existed before they attained godhood (Gwyn has an uncle, and his knights are larger than a human, though not being gods), so what are they?
I ask this because whatever they are could cause Nito to look like that. When humans die they become a single skeleton, but since Nito is not human, his undead state (brought about by the contradictory nature of his soul, his life essence, being death itself) causes that race to look like that.
Just for the heck of it, because i finished typing this around 12:54 AM, I want to point out the obvious and note how:
1. Gwynevere is larger than her father
2. Gwyndolin has tentacles for legs
3. Smough is VERY disproportionate
1. We don't know the real size of Gywnevere since it's just an illusion.
2. Gywndolin probably has tentacles due to his affinity with the moon & sorcery.
3. The gods are Giants.
If you look up concept art for Smough, he's fucking ripped underneath the armor.
The moon makes you a woman AND give you tentacles?
And I thought giants were just tree growths, like Yhorm.
And I have seen that art now. He clearly planned in advance for him ever getting fat off his diet.
Just like I did!
+CryoWalrus It's either they're Giants with Lord Souls or the alternative. The Souls games have always hinted at the amount of souls an NPC has. A lot a Souls players theorize that Silver/Black Knights, Sentinals, and Lords are simply big by the power of their souls.
+elitekjms Gwynevere still has to be giant as the bed she's lying on in ds is made for a giant being anyways
That quote at the end really shook me. What an incredible usage!
Been playing the souls series since My wife put me on Demon souls
I had some lore ideal but never knew it was so damn Deeep!
Hands down one of the best games ever...
Funny joke
Yeah, unfortunately there is no "best game ever" as it is all up to opinions
A opinion is based on the person stating it so yes it's the best game ever to me and for me.
Eric Frost okay, cool. I just don't think there is a best game ever and nor will there ever be.
You never played a game that hit you where it counts and thought it was just the most awesome thing ever?
Wish there was a mod where your narrative is voiced out during the game XD Would be epic
It's pretty interesting the dynamic between Gwyn's Light Soul and the Dark Soul and Humanity is shown in gameplay:
-If you feed bonfires,Gwyn's power increases as well as Humanity is sacrificed and the Dark Soul influence fades.The peak of this side is shown when you light the bonfire at the Kiln of the First Flame.The Light Soul will last a little longer,also the Undead Curse dissappears for a while,so Humanity is forgotten.
-If you don't light bonfires,Humanity spreads more and more,letting the Dark grow while Gwyn's influence dies.The peak of this happens when you kill Gwyn and let the Flame die.Humanity and Darkness dominates without control or regulation because everyone turns undead(like Vendrick says at the end of DS2 dlcs).
i understand absolutely nothing
Yup.
maybe cuz you were on too much nicotine
+NONAMEBRO Savage.
One who knows nothing can understand nothing -ansem
Safer Sephiroth deep shit
Thanks! Your video inspired me to make this - everyone reading this should check out Dave's video in the description :)
It's weird, but I always associated the Furtive Pygmy not as Darkness, but as life.
Humanity always seems to appear as a flame, and it makes sense that Humanity is shards of the Dark Soul.
The Furtive Pygmy was the progenitor of Man, his flame was used to give life to his descendants, and give them strength and luck to help give them the traits that he lacked.
The Witch of Izalith didn't show the trait of life until she was corrupted, an unintentional trait that spawned in her attempt to birth a new flame from her own.
She manipulated the Fire of the Lord Soul itself, using it to summon amazing firestorms that destroyed the Dragon's lands.
Out of the other three, she focused on the Flame's natural attributes rather than using it to strengthen her own.
Nito shows a lot of qualities of Death, Decay, and Disease. The armor it wears clad with bones, miasma, and just a general shroud of death is pretty abundantly clear.
It exemplified the trait of death so it's logical that he would harness the flame's deadliest attributes to unleash terrible poisons that it could never generate alone.
Ironically, unlike the Witch and Gwyn, he ignored the attributes of Fire, but focused on something else that the flame offered... the fumes that it generated.
Gwyn is the most memorable, most famed, and the most public of the four.
He gave light when there was darkness, freed life from the oppression of the Dragons, and linked the Fire Shrines to help preserve the Age of Fire.
Much like Zeus, he was quick to take the helm as the leader of his new found age.
Lightning and Fire are both different things at first, but in their heart, they share the common theme of plasma.
Superheated and ionized gases which cause a drastic change in it's characteristics.
He applied the most force into his flame as the result, even fragmenting it for the Four Kings and Seath.
The four lord souls have no special traits, because in theory they hold them all.
The potential of fire is great, numerous, and always dependent on the wielder.
Depending on how you look at something, it can always appear different and it's application can be altered to suit the situation.
Mind you that this is just my opinion, and therefore subject to criticism, finger-poking, and having cats scratch it up like they own it.
i think ur confusing soul with flame, izalith had the SOUL of life not the flame of life. in the souls series theres more than one way to get to something i.e. both light and life lead to fire, light relates to fire through illumination, and life relates to fire conceptually since fire seems alive, it takes matter and converts it into energy, giving off light as a waste byproduct. gwyn channeled power of his soul of light into both lightning(the purest but fleeting form of light) and fire(the crude but lasting form). when iza tried to mimic this fire with her life soul, it was coming from a fundamentally different power, one of life where the fire was more akin to a living thing than a source of light. its like... trying to fuel your gas powered truck with blood because u think well gas is the blood of a truck and blood is the blood of humans, same thing right?
the pigmy isnt life, its dark and all the traits that come with it, the cold, lonely, emptiness and silence of dark. i like to think that the relationships between te 4 souls is like this: light and life are cousins, they share some aspects and can somewhat do similar things but for different reason. death and dark are also cousins. then the 2 pairs have their opposites, light and dark, life and death.
nito burrito
Well that's real fuckin Nito.
oh wow, that makes a lot of sense
Raine McCue Of all the comments this is the one that sums up Nito’s lore the best.
Hold the chorizo. Snitches get stitches, shout out to Lilo.
I'm late to the Dark Souls universe, just got into the game recently and poured nearly 200 hours into it already and have no thought of stopping anytime soon, and all these lore videos you've made for it are the best. You did a really great job on these videos man. I wish that all the cut content hadn't been cut, the game would be even more amazing than it already is but then again there wouldn't be such an awesome channel for the lore either. I tried DkS2 and I feel kinda weird, but I hope Dark Souls 3 will be a great masterpiece and I'll be happy to see any lore videos you might make for it.
Welcome to the series. Don't miss Bloodborne :D
Daniel Nelson I'm a PC gamer and bloodborne isn't coming to PC so unless I get a ps4 I sadly will be missing it v.v
+Hippie Gamer Same bruh, same. I feel ya. :( That game looks so smooth...
+LRazo At least we're getting Dark Souls 3.
+Hippie Gamer "Dark souls 2 feels kinda weird" couldn't describe the game better
Neato
You know, after all of these, you were right, there were answers in the later games so props to you vatii, your videos are the best
Her tumblr is in the description!
This is a truly epic tale! This thick story explains why nothing in the game seems out of place and gives that incredible feeling of depth.
But why, oh why wasn't this story told in the game? ;_;
The game tells the player as much or as little as they want it to. By reading item descriptions, doing some inference and really taking a good look at both the opening cutscenes and the actions/words of various characters, these stories told in VaatVidya's Prepare to Cry/DkS Lore videos become what you'd see. If you do none of the above, then you see mostly some big concepts that hold less meaning to you, because you put less effort into looking at them.
It is told... you just have to look.
There's a lot of red phantom enemies..which might hint towards something? I was playing the Demo the other day, and three red phantom enemies just flash out of nowhere and attack you!
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh thats sus sussy oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I noticed something about the First Flame, the Flame of Chaos, and fire in general. Fire and Pyromancy related to Chaos have a lot of red in them as does the First Flame. Most fire in the game does not contain so much red and indeed most real life flames are orange and yellow, not red. The flamethrower that players get with the Dragon Head Stone is golden yellow with no orange or red at all which is weird because Hellkite breathes very red flames. The Dragon that you get the stone from seems to be the closest we find to original Dragons due to his appearance so perhaps the original Dragons could breathe flames of gold. Maybe the First Flame is not so different from the Flame of Chaos since both caused rapid change(chaos) in their surroundings. The bonfires when kindled fully have a lot of red in them too which makes them seem like mini copies of the First Flame. It also looks like the humanoids who were near the First Flame were Hollows which makes me think that the Curse of the Undead is really just the natural state of Giants and Pygmies before obtaining a soul; a sort of line between Life and Death like the Dragons or Seathe who is a true Undead. After all, Nito is the first of the dead so maybe no one died until he picked up his Lord Soul.
Crystals are related to Sorcery, Sorcery is related to Souls, and Souls are related to Life. Lord Souls were found by the First Flame, Dragons breathe Flame, Dragons were thoroughly surrounded by Stone, and Crystals grow in Stone. A nameless Blacksmith deity left slabs of Stone Titanite and there is a God of Fire named Flan.
Dark Souls seems lacking in lore at first yet everything connects in a way that goes beyond simple explanation. Truly mind boggling.
Gotta say, your point about undeath being the natural state of humans, giants and pygmies is really smart. It explains why the lords wanted the Lord souls AND why the flame fading caused the curse of the undead.
Life soul - gives true life (life as an ordinary human rather than a hollow)
Death soul - gives true death (no respawn at bonfire) [could this explain why Nito spreads death with his covenant? Maybe he is trying to exhaust the strength of the death soul. More people die -> death soul devotes its power to letting them die -> death soul fades -> flame is weakened. This could explain why Frampt wants Nito dead. Does Nito WANT the flame to fade? Maybe he sided with Kaathe, like Gwyn sided with Frampt]
Light soul - gives holy power (Miracles etc)
Dark soul - (speculation + assumes the Gods did NOT create undeath) undead can use the dark soul (humanity) to leech power from the other souls in order to restore humanity. That makes sense, if we take offering humanity to restore human form to be stealing power from the flame, as if undead need the other 3 ingredients for true life, that is. Offering humanity to kindle is like giving that power back. That explains why the way of white kill undead.
Less undead -> less stealing strength from bonfire
Undead they kill -> drop humanity -> more kindling is possible -> stronger flame
This also explains why they want the Rite of Kindling, to feed more humanity to the flame.
{Could all this also explain why Gwyn looks hollow when you fight him?
Gwyn sacrifices from his soul what the flame needs and reverts to his true hollow form?}
Sorry if that didn't make any sense to you :) It barely made sense to me. But I could be on to something.
DaDude12000 It seems Kaathe wants to stop the bonfires and the First Flame from destroying the pieces of the Dark Soul hence why his Darkwraiths pillage it to give to him. I believe the fires burn Humanity like wood and once the Humanity is turned to ash, it can never be used again. So if Kaathe wants the Dark Soul to return to near full power, he must be planning something of great significance. Perhaps he wants to rule the world instead of Dragons or Giants. After all, Everyone pretty much hated and continues to hate the Dragons including the Serpents who were just as old as the original Dragons.
I also have noticed since the Darksign has a reddish ring of fire around its center of darkness, perhaps the bonfires spread the "Curse of the Undead", which might explain how Solaire purposefully cursed himself and why many people could be cursed without knowing it until they died.
I saw a video where some guy talked about the Maneater cooks and Smough and how they ate Undead bodies to consume their power. If an Undead can never truly die and only goes Hollow, even when they are only skeletons, then what happens to the bodies of them when they die? Some enemies fade away leaving only their gear/soul power but most leave behind bodies. What happens if you eat something that can never be destroyed, let alone digested fully? You might get fat just like the cooks and Smough. In the video he said if an Undead were to link the flame, they would potentially burn forever as the Undead cannot be destroyed, somewhat like a log that burns but never is consumed. The Undead requires nothing directly to link the fire and only uses Souls and Humanity to get to the Kiln. Once Gwyn is dead, you could be butt naked, Hollow, and Soulless(besides Gwyn's) but that flame will still light regardless. I think Gwyn never was destroyed entirely, the Player only needs to remove him long enough to link the fire. Gwyn should respawn somewhere but mechanically the game would be impossible near bonfires due to infinite respawning. I can only imagine how hellish Blighttown would be if everything kept popping out of bonfires. Gah, I typed too much again. At least there is no character limit anymore.
Heh, while I was typing this I had to go kindle a real fire to keep it going. Praise the Sun!
The artist is linked in the description! You should find a .gif on her tumblr page. I don't think the resolution is high enough to use as a desktop background, however!
Fantastic job! Your editing and cinematography skills within Dark Souls is getting even better. Plenty of awesome shots in this video.
I'm also very pleased to see that you covered my favorite entity within Dark Souls; The Gravelord Nito and his servants!
Keep it up, man. You're highly appreciated.
I still believe there is a loose connection between dark and demon's souls since King Allant sent an army of knights to the land of giants to try and halt the demon advance. The dragons also looked alot like the dragon god. Just my opinion though.
That doesn't make a connection it the same developers so similar character models
I put a lore reason and you put a technical reason, maybe you should read my comment again....
it not lore though
The reason I stated, where in demon's souls the background story is a host of knights was sent to the land of giants, lo and behold gwyn has a host of knights in a land of giants.
look what i am saying yes their are similarities but there is no mention of Lordran in Demon Souls or vice versa since we know that The three lords and their followers killed all the dragons (except for two) and there are dragons in Demon souls the only way i see Demon Souls being connected to Dark Souls is the fog took over the whole world and the only ones to survive were the dragons and the giants who took refuge in the dark then the start of the Dark Souls plot begin but i see that less likely than the games not being connected
I actually thought that the curse was either a last ditch attempt by the dragons to inflict an eternal bane on humanity for bringing about their destruction. I didn't think that Nito would have anything to do with it simply because hollows don't seem to be the same thing as skeletons. Since I didn't see any hollows in the catacombs (aside from the necromancers) I assumed that Nito simply couldn't use them because they weren't obedient to him, or anyone aside from each other.
Great video, as per usual! I like the connection between Dark Souls 1 to what we're hearing from Dark Souls 2. Also, happy to see the Nito Lore making its rounds!
I am still wondering what happened to the giants. I mean, in the Tomb of the Giants, there are so many of them dead, and we only see 5 alive (3 in Sens, hawkeye gough and giant blacksmith) and even then they all seem to be in service to Gwyn. So were they all slaughtered or something? I also remember that on Gough's helm, it says that he was mistreated or something by other warriors despite being one of Gwyn's four knights. And in addition to that, Nito happens to be in the center of the tomb. So how are all the Giants dead? Who killed them and why?
I don't think they died, they just left Anorlondo. The giants which are believed to be the deity race left anor londo and crossed the seas over to drangleic, this idea is based on what one of the npc characters say in the dark souls 2 beta. Item description is for the princess of sun light ring "The Princess of Sunlight Gwynevere left Anor Londo along many other deities,and later became wife to Flame God Flann."
***** I also agree with Vaati's Lore video for DS 2 were he talks about them a bit. I mean DS say's most of the giants left and went away while DS 2 on the other hand say's that giants came from across the sea and from what I understand DS 2 was ruled by humans and a war started between these giants who came from across the sea and humans who lived there. My overall guess is that the giants who had always ruled the humans thought themselves to be intitled to ruling the humans while the humans decided to fight them which resulted in the DS 2 area to be destroyed. With the release of DS 2 I hope to get some answers.
Heart be lovin
Mind be blown
Leroy be jenkins
but wait, isint leeroy tring to take the right of kindling from you? i mean he helped you defeat pinwheel and you took it. if his mission was to get the rite in the first place then might he just be trying to take it off you?
Nah he's just a bitch
Nito had something stolen from him by pinwheel. PINWHEEL!
That makes more sense xd
Nito was definitely one of the better boss fights and it’s awesome to learn more about him so thanks!
You should consider re-doing some of your older content I've been around for the last year or so, but I've seen all your videos and end up listening to them on .5playback to match your tone and your narration style now and I think you could get some or one complete souls timeline or something like that. Love the videos thanks to you and the team!
A little note, my personal opinion is that Nito was trying to keep the world in balance. As you can see from the scene where you are laying in the coffin and was transferred to Nito, you can see that he's just... Sleeping. Laying there. Dormant. You can also see that all the corpses never left the cemetery, indicating that Nito doesn't let them leave so the world is in peace. Anyway it's just my personal opinion.
I have heard a better explanation behind Leroy. He was basically hollowing due to his time in the tomb where he was trapped and needed humanity to continue his quest. So he tried to invade someone for it. As you are the only one in that place he invades you.
If you are going to argue with me could you at least you know argue. Explain your thoughts.
doomlord117
Why would he need humanity to continue his quest?
Kinda but with no conspiracy it becomes the story of a desperate man looking to complete his mission. It would also explain his body in nitos chamber. He died trying to save the world.
PanicFox Easy, hallowing can be staved by sacrificing humanity to the bonfire, so if he became undead he probably was turning and in the catacombs humanity is hard to come by so by invading another he can kill them and take their humanity and so stave off the hallowing a bit longer
DCT Humanity is hard to come by in the catacombs?
I had no idea.
I guess the little skeletons don't drop humanity, huh.
So this video just popped up in my feed and I've seen it before but dude it made me realize you've been pumping out great content and I've been eating it up for a decade now, keep doing what you do
I love how much passion and love you have for this game. The same as me but for me playing this game was like "the struggle for life itself".
I still cant believe you needed a phantom to beat pinwheel
lol
What if humanity wasn't originally the fuel for fire, but Gwyn made flames that used the dark soul as fuel as punishment against the pygmy for not fighting the dragons?
Since when do you get *punished* for *not* joining a war? When has that ever happened? Oh...nevermind >.>
Hitsyfication Muhammad Ali...
Well, this three year old comment is outdated because of The Ringed City.
Patriarchal Sun it is ds 3. And why no interest? Are you one of the cool kids that hates ds3
*Macintosh* *plays*
Don't stop making videos, I enjoy watching everything you do and hearing your opinion on the games, and the lore surrounding them. You made my playing of Dark Souls so much more enjoyable then it could have been.
I can’t take this video too seriously when nito looks absolutely adorable on the thumbnail.
I know this Video is two years old, but what the hell.
Fun Fact: Gwyndolin, son of lord Gwyn and God of Anor Londo over the course of the game, takes his name from a corrupted version of the name Gwendolen, literally welsh for White Ring. A white ring is the symbol for the Church of the Way of White.
My conclusion: Gwyndolin is, surprise surprise, the leader of the way of the way, guiding it from behind the scenes. He approached Nito and asked him to create the dark sign, allowing Nito to further spread his death, and Gwyndolin to further the flames.
Congratulations! Unfortunately the EULA states that you can't release information or footage - feel free to risk it though ;)
Not sure if you'll ever read this but your videos made me decide to finally play the souls games. I'm on a mission to at the very least beat every game once
i love how, even before ds3 came out, there were solid theories about how the dark sign was created by gwyn himself, and how he fucked up humanity (also, everything about the dark soul being in every human, and well, the last dlc where you retrieve the entire dark soul in the form of blood)
I never actually thought about how the curse of the undead came to be. I guess it makes sense that it was created by the Lords to force undead to use the Dark Soul (humanity) to fuel the bonfires, to stop them from hollowing, which they were doomed to be anyway.
makes more sense to me that Gwyn obviously created the dark sign...he is afraid of the age of dark...age of dark referring to man not needing these "gods" hence he created the dark sign to enslave humanity and keep ruling the masses. ultimatley that is his downfall because now a chosen undead will usher in mans era
huh... anyone ever think that the pygmy might be more entwined with the fire keepers? and used his soul to create places of safety and refuge in the otherwise hostile land of Lordran?
possibly....but i think the pygmy was manus...he was a weak creature "human" then became a lord...his humanity went wild and there u go.. the abyss was born
I've always figured that the undead curse was created by Gwynn, synthesizing the results from the horrific human experimentation he supported through Izalith, Seath, Nito, and Manus, for the eventual purpose of recollecting the power he split up and using it to restore the fire. The sad irony is that by the time you accomplish that, there's really nobody left who the age of fire serves. Gwyndolin is literally the only god who's still alive by the time you finish the game, and he's too busy defending the illusion of a worthwhile legacy to actually enjoy it.
FUN FACT: His scream when he uses the gravelord sword is really similar to a sample from a Slipknot song, called 'Iowa", wich is released in 2001. The song is about necrophilia and its really fits to Nito because... well, he's dead, and wears seletons around him.
And the focus of the third game appears to be fire.
I prefer to think that the curse is just the flames eating you, consuming you like gwynn was consumed. But then why does nito keep doing this? Because he just likes to watch you die on repeat while eating skeleton junk food, maybe…
You and ENB are THE go to sources for everything Dark Souls, seriously I don't think I need to check any other channels ever again. Keep up the excellent work and I hope you'll be covering Dark Souls 2 when it releases!
Just finished DS1 last night for the first time and I really love your videos. They fill a lot of gaps and confirm some of my own suspicions while also telling me there's a lot more yet to see.
I may not have made that clear - The focus of Dark Souls is "Humanity", the focus of Dark Souls 2 is "Cursed".
what is the focus of the third installment then?
Man, Dark Souls is so convoluted. It takes me a minute to remember how humanity works and what exactly a dark soul is.
Vaati, it's a testament to the depth of your knowledge (and oh-so-sexy voice) that my heart jumped when I saw you'd released a new Lore video. I couldn't click the link fast enough! Keep up your brilliant work. You recast Dark Souls for me with your videos, and turned it into something truly beautiful. Thank you!
dude. I only sank 38 hours in Dark souls but I already want to re-start it so that most of the characters do not die. You're awesome.
Dank souls is my life. It controls me in every aspect.
so there was fire and prosperity, then the fire started dying and they needed a way to "tax" people of their humanity to keep it burning...
Thank you for putting this video up. You have definitely earned yourself a subscriber. Whenever I look at Dark Souls lore I am constantly astounded by the size and depth of it (much like the game itself). I was a huge fan of the game, going so far as to get all the achievements. Still, I didn't realize the beautiful complexity of the plot in the game until I started watching your videos. Thanks again, and keep it up for Dark Souls 2.
It would be amazing to care about any creative pursuit like making these videos as much as you do Vaati. Honestly, the degree to which you genuinely care about the quality and originality of your work augments your insights and analytics to such a greater degree. They're really awesome videos, thank you for making them! :)
I always took the name The First of The Dead as plural and that's why Nito is made up of many skeletons.
If you look closer it's a giant skeleton with a skeletons' garment. So it's one being rather than Ermac.
Huh, I had a huge discussion and now my comments are gone. I'd rather not repost it all but how did they disappear in the first place? Someone must be silencing my truths to stop others from knowing what I know.
Be wary of liar
Emphasis on "my truths", hilarity ensues.
That 5:28 part with the camera turn around the head was sick (No not literally, epic it is!) Well done.
Thank you for these videos even today. Working on a Dungeons and Dragons campaign in the Dark Souls world. It will involve a small amount of troops ordered to investigate Nito's domain after the war.
And now the third game is about ashes.
What does this mean? The curse of humanity~ But where do ashes, embers and fire fit in there? The fire is fed with humanity, we all know that now but that's not the only reason for the flame to be there...
Yoel offered us to draw our true strenght but that makes you undead, cursed with the dark sign. Does that mean that the dark sign is caused cause of power? The strenght that everyone has deep inside? The true essence of the human?
Theories are welcome. (I still have no idea of WTF it's going on in Dark Souls so I may be wrong as hell)
ds3 has a bunch of plotholes, so I wouldn't consider it too seriously.
for example, after you kill Lothric you get cinders of a lord, but game says to you CLEARLY, that Lothric has REJECTED to become a lord of cinder and wasn't cindered at the moment he is slain by the protag.
Indifferent One
While that is true
That's likely just a mistake on their part
I would think that they meant to label them as "cinders of an intended lord"
Indifferent One maybe because he had talent of being lord of cinder..?
Personally... I think the ashes in this game refer to the lords and those who would offer themselves as fuel. People of power who each systematically fed themselves to that accursed flame, either being forced to or to protect their homes or just to temporarily end the curse.
In my opinion, the Undead and the darksign are essentially there to ensure the continued life of the fire whether those undead like it or not. They would make the perfect soldiers to face the abyss, the chaos and everything in between. No matter what happens though, in DS1 and 2, we never see the flame truly die and that leaves another undead to step up to the challenge of absorbing your soul and going to link the fire. It's only in DS3 where we can see the flame truly die, and that I believe is the best ending for the souls games.
The world of fire is dying, think of it as a man on life support, constantly suffering. Do you prolong his life in some vain hope of some cure to his condition arising? Or do you take mercy and end his suffering, to let him move on from the world so that the rest of us can also move on?
Lothric rejected his duty as a Lord of Cinder, but he was probably still used to link the flames, like the others (meaning he'd be one of two Lords we know were forced to link the Flame, which is interesting). His body is clearly deformed and mangled, and, like the other lords, he refuses to venture outside of his throneroom.
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Then what's the focus of the third game?
Cycles
***** I love the Souls series but if it's going to continue as a cycles story then I'm not interested. It's just boring. The awesome thing about these games is the smaller stories within them but if the overall story is something as mundane as a cycle story then... Why bother?
Martin Norberg Demon Souls = Humanity, Dark Souls = Curse. The 3rd would be Dark Souls 2.
Martin Norberg It's the spiritual successor.
Dark Souls 2's main story is concerning the origins of the curse, the cyclical nature of the world itself, the attempts to escape from this cycle, the consequences of doing so, and the rise of the dark as fragments of the abyss once again take form.
Its less of a focus on the struggles of those afflicted by the curse, as Dark Souls 1 was, but more about the nature of the curse and the world itself.
This game doesn't hold your hand in the story, which is probably why many people think the game has no story. Reading item descriptions and filling in the blanks is how you find it. You have to put effort into it, I love that this game in no way holds your hand like most games these days do.
Note the increase in defense and ability goes up only as you hold onto the Dark Sprite, lost when given to the bonfires. Perhaps it is possible that holding the sprites, though being humanity, still slips one into Hollowed, and reverting the effect by giving to the bonfires means that the Deities in fact did create the curse to stop the humans from becoming stronger and keeping them in power, as the light grows and darkness fades, but naturally light disappears and darkness remains.
I found Nito so disappointing. First time I saw him I thought he was one of the coolest looking bosses I've ever seen. He looked enormous, how am I going to fight that thing?... Then you get to him, and yeah... What a joke.
Yeah, silly me only making it to ng+4.
Kenpachi Zaraki what happens on NG+7
TheCOD3killer Other than the game getting more difficult, nothing. He's just making a joke that's been beaten to death a million times over.
I'm new.
Indomitable Beard
actually not. on ng+7 there is no increase ng+6 is the hardest. aft er that it jsut stays the same.
is it possible that Nito might be a darkwraith? I mean he's collecting a huge amount of humanity and also trying to kill all the living things. seems to me like he's trying to collect all the shards of the dark soul, kind of like kaathe but within himself, instead of the abyss
also if we assume the bonfires are a construct made by Nito, and Nito is behind the curse, it would explain why you trade humanity to the flame in exchange for a little more life
DCcableguy I thought the curse was because of Gwyn?
Andrew James The curse is never really explained in game, lots of people think the curse might be from gwyn because it kind of makes sense
Pretty sure Nito is the leader of the Gravelord Covenant. So that would exclude him from being a Darkwraith. Also, you don't supply him with humanity, but you give him Eye of Death.
dondiwhite1 I'm not saying that he could be a darkwraith in the sense that he's a part of Kaathe's covenant, but that he's trying to gather humanity together for the purpose of recreating the dark soul, which is what dark wraiths do.
I question how he got enough humanity to actually have a cloak of it if the bonfires weren't supplying him with it. I mean was he just gathering it off of people who entered his catacombs?
I started playing the dark souls series 1 week ago and i’m currently playing through ds3 and i’m absolutely in love with this game series. I’ve played ALOT of games in my life and i’m a bit of a perfectionist so i usually go for 100% finishes on all games. Haven’t done this for ds yet though simply for the fact that i’m so invested in the story, finding every secret, exploring, talking to npcs. Dark Souls has taken my number 1 spot for game series. The best game this far was definitely Dark Souls 1. Such an interesting and grasping experience and has definitely taken my number 1 spot for games in general.
Since you remastered Gwynn and Izalith’s story as well obviously making it longer, I was thinking you could also do it to this one so that not only give it more depth and flavor to the story with your amazing voice fit for narration, but also you’ll have the trilogy of the original Lords of Cinder!
It looks like all our answers are in Dark Souls 2. See you guys there.
The first game focuses on humanity, the second, curse, I'm curious to know what the third will center around
I think iT wil focus on relinking the fire, bringing back a new age of fire
That's already been one of the endings of DS1 and DS2. I think that's too simple a suggestion.
I'm starting think it could possibly center around finding a purpose, I mean, we already know that the unkindled are considered to be less then undead, and aren't even fit to be feul for the flame, so perhaps the ashen warrior finding purpose will be the focus.
not having real poise *drops mic*.
I love how you can listen to all this lore and not have played the game and it won't ruin the unique experiance of playing the game. Thanks for the great video(s) Vaati
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This right here. This is the reason why I watch these videos. Good work Vaati, my Patreon subscription is well spent
So the focus of the third came could be "Salvation or Damnation"
It seems to me that the theme looks more like either death or decay, imo.
+Loremaster Yn'Taris DS3 gives me a sort of "Survival of the Fittest" kind of vibe.
IcarusAblaze I can get behind that.
+MagnaCarta80 I'm thinking it's gonna be something like the heirs of fire vs the heirs of dark, like when the heirs of the first flame (we, the lords...) clash against the heirs of the dark soul (humans, undead...)
Somehow, I feel the basilisks are often overlooked. After all, they are the only enemy throughout the game that CURSE YOU. "Humans are helpless against curses, and can only redirect their influence.
The Purging Stone does not dispel curses, but receives them as a surrogate. The stone itself was once a person or some other being." - Purging Stone Lore.
Also there's a correlation between the Eyes of Death and the Gravelord Covenant, and their "nest" is located in the GREAT HOLLOW. Responding with speculation would be greatly appreciated!
Those frogs in the Depths can also curse you.
baseballrogue i'm pretty sure THOSE are the basilisks.
Oh shit you're right, never knew their names, just called them curse frogs. Thought basilisks were some type of snake or dragon.
Cheers man
People are still discovering new and fascinating things in the world of Dark Souls? The amount of detail in Dark Souls lore is just staggering...
Great video, as always!