Peter Hitchens | Cold War II and Securing The Future
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- John is joined in conversation by Peter Hitchens to discuss the current leftist ideologies infiltrating western society, his understanding of the Ukrainian war, his insight into the future during a time of international unrest, and the decline of education in Britain. Once a correspondent living in Russia during the collapse of the Soviet Union; Peter reveals his critiques on the current state of political affairs in Russia and the rest of Europe.
Peter Hitchens is a British journalist, author, and broadcaster. He currently writes for the Mail on Sunday, where he is a columnist and occasional foreign correspondent. He regularly engages with a great many topics in public debate on major television & radio networks and at universities around the world.
Peter has just completed his tenth book, a critique of the modern British education system. His past works include The Abolition of Britain and The Rage Against God.
A former Trotskyist, he partly attributes his return to Christian faith to his experience of socialism in practice, which he witnessed during his years reporting in Eastern Europe and later from Moscow during the collapse of the Soviet Union.
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00:32 Introduction
1:34 Moscow after the Soviet Union
7:44 The Marshall Plan
10:32 Russia at the start of democracy
11:24 The consequence of Prejudice
17:28 What the west could have done better after the Soviet Union
20:10 Media coverage of Ukraine
24:55 Outcome of the Ukrainian war
27:46 Critiques of both sides
31:35 Leadership of Ukraine
32:58 Personal consequences of war
35:03 Response from other powers
37:10 The use of nuclear weapons
38:08 China
39:56 Condemnation of oppressive regimes
42:51 The reality of democratisation of Russia and China
46:06 Russia-phobia
48:02 Our understanding of Russia
51:48 Ideologies in British education
58:09 The equality act and Christianity
1:01:54 Surveillance of thought
1:03:08 Peter’s outlook on the future of modern society
1:05:00 The dangerous idea
1:06:03 Conclusion
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Peter Hitchens is a fantastic asset. He should be on the BBC at least once a week. Thank God for RUclips.
That will never happen. The BBC is an arm of the WEF agenda these days and no longer serves the role of a national broadcaster. It should be defunded and the licence fee abolished. Then let’s see then wither like CNN!
I wrote to Mr Hitchens during the lockdown. I thanked him for his continued efforts to fight against the government’s policy and reminding me I wasn’t alone in my thoughts.
He replied, which still means a lot to me today.
He had the Vax. Bit of a shame but yeah I had comfort in listening to him too
@@rickytalk5852 I wasn’t so disappointed at him getting the vax - that was totally up to him, but I have to be honest, I was horrified that he posted about it, exactly like all the other vax-pushers were doing. I have a great deal of time for Peter Hitchens and love to listen to him and to read his stuff.
@@ally11488 she said she wasn't disappointed?
I am on the left and I agree he is a good man that is always worth listening to.
How did you get a letter/email to him?
Always a pleasure to listen to Peter Hitchens.
Peter's description of what the English grammar schools were and what they taught is *exactly* what schools should be in the West today: rigorous, focused, and demanding, where demonstrable knowledge is the outcome.
It’s where we have to start if we are going begin the long journey of turning it around.
@@dre6289 Have a look at the New Culture Forum's recent video.
Thank you John for your most important work! Bringing together critical thinkers & thinking on issues and viewpoints long forgotten by current generations.
That was outstanding John. Thanks very much.
I was overseas during your tenure in politics, but for my money your contributions here is a legacy that will reach far beyond our borders and lives 👍
Totally agree 👍.
@@paperclip612 It was funny how Anderson kept saying far right nonsense and Hitchens had to keep disagreeing and trying to educate Anderson.
Two gentlemen with a clear sense of humanity and clarity. Thank you both of you for your frequent interactions.
We need more men like Peter. It's tragic we aren't making any new ones.
become one
I'm working on it!
Freedom and much hyped democracy is just a delusional concept soaked with blood. The US with the banner of planting trees of democracies in different countries like the Middle East used to carry out its own profiteering schemes of toppling unflavored leaders stigmatizing them as authoritarian and orchestrated coups by bribing elites. The US wants to see regimes which are out of its area of wielding power, or soft power the US wants them gone. To remind Biden mumbling about Putin “This guy must go” The US wanted to overturn China 🇨🇳 but failed. The US and Britain 🇬🇧 by the rhetoric of freedom and democracy are waging wars and wreaking havoc and Ukraine war was a provocation what would be made public like Iraq turned out to have no WMDS or any chemical stockpiles. Let’s wait
@@owenparker-hughes4510 I am doing my best.
I clearly remember visiting Romania the year before and year after communism. It was a dreadful place during communism because the people felt afraid, after there was a feeling that the people were free. They might have had a shocking economy but you could feel their relief at now not being subject to arbitrary arrest
please tell us your thoughts on visiting Romania!!
@@willboudreau1187 I was still young but I remember how unfair it was that there was 2 economies, one shop for local currency and one shop for foreign currency with all the usual western brands. There were 2 men in leather jackets (different men, same jackets) every time you went anywhere following you, especially for restaurants etc.
We're probably about the same age. We, in the west, really can't imagine these restrictions on personal freedoms. Love to hear your thoughts. Thank you.
I'm struck by your comment about people in Romania feeling afraid. I see a very strong resemblance in the United States today where people are still being held in prison WITHOUT TRIAL since January 6.
I worked with a Romanian here in Ireland for a while he had a different view on them days. He said the community cohesion back then was something he missed after the system ended.
I love listening to these two civil men discuss the world as we know it. Outstanding content.
I could listen to Peter Hitchens all day. You learn so much.
As an ardent follower of Christopher Hitchens and his eloquent speeches and visceral debates I remember the exact day the tide turned in my mind in favor of Peter Hitchens and that was during the titanic debate between the two brothers where Christopher took it upon himself to make a ghastly but lousy argument in favour of the American 2nd invasion of Iraq. I knew there and then that the CH intellect and spirit had waned and showed its biggest weakness yet other than the usual petty hate. I was immediately cured of all atheism and such such. Love thy father, love what is right and dont be like Adam listening to the wrong voice. Go well Peter H, the better Hitchens.
I have undergone a similar shift although it may have more to do with the changing times than any specific moment in a debate. CH was built for an earlier era. PH seems to be suited for the present as the world suffers a loss of memory, critical thinking and intellectual honesty. As the woke revolution has captured our elites and our institutions, we can only look to brave independent people like PH for some perspective.
It’s easy to enjoy listening to someone like CH whose command of the English language was exemplary and who was a consummate performer with a steady supply of catty witticisms. PH is for my money just as worthy of attention for his equally impressive use of language and rigorous, thoughtful arguments.
C was the showman, but P was and is the thinker.
Enjoyed interaction of you and Peter Hitchens
This has by far been one of the best interviews! Thanks John.
What a profound and important conversation, gentlemen!
Thank you very much... ☝️😎
Thank you for this interview with Peter, it’s needed now more than ever ❤️🙏🏻
Any time this man is speaking, I am listening.
I want to second Mr Hitchens' recommendation of the book "Orderly and Humane". It is a fantastic (if harrowing) read.
Great conversation again, but John deserves a medal for patience. Peter again, continuously cuts him off, John's patience at 31:43...amazing!
Always a pleasure to listen to Peter talk
Thank you John Anderson for always bringing back Peter Hitchens whose repository of knowledge can never be summed up in a single interview.
Thank you John for providing an excellent forum for Peter to express his thoughts clearly. Peter is often sad to listen to but his way of approaching issues is much needed at this time of confusion and untruth.
Well if the west can help to instigate the overthrow of a democratically elected government as they did in Ukraine in 2014, I’m sure they could have guided Russian society towards specific goals in the 1990’s
I think it's high time to admit that Peter makes up for his brother Christopher's loss. He is SO refreshing to listen to. Clarity in reasoning at its best.
Theyre completely different. Peters always been my favorite
John Anderson is right. That final question to the panel on Q&A Dangerous Ideas was so powerful. Must see.
I think that subtitles in English would greatly help increase the number of people who thoroughly understand the conversation. And it is important that more people enjoy and appreciate such moments.
I'm using english sub titles as I watch
Thank you again John. I really enjoy your interviews.
A really good analysis by Peter as always. The Benedict option is one solution to our problems; a revival of Christianity would also change society from the bottom up. There are not many signs of hope about Christianity, but there have been other dark days in Britain's past that God has brought us through. Let's pray as we do what we can......
Hitchens is a living embodiment of the Cassandra legend...he's right, but no one wants to hear.
He is a voice in the wilderness crying out
I hear, you hear.
@@darrenpat182 too little, too late
@@Lucky-sh1dm better late than never, better little than nothing.
@@darrenpat182 admire your optimism but it’s wraps g
John, I really hope you will make the last 7-10 minutes where you guys talked about the death of society a stand alone clip. I really love sharing your work, but most people won’t watch the entire things. That was brilliant…sobering and sad, but still brilliant. I was just on a podcast where we covered a bit of the same ground, and I suppose I have the same position as Hitchens (I said to my interviewer that we had already crossed the Rubicon and that our doom was already at hand). I love sharing other brilliant thinkers like you two.
On an absolute Hitch binge watch right now.
Auld Peter is easily the best commentator oot there today.
This accompanying music is heartbreakingly beautiful.
I love listening to Peter speak, and still miss hearing regularly from his brother.
Scariest remark at 27:20: "The problem with wars is once they start we lose control of them."
And this is a revelation?
Thank you both for this discussion 🙏
I really like thinking and learning from Peter Hitchens and John Anderson. John you are needed within the Liberal Party relinking it with the profound thinking of Menzies.
The current Liberal Party doesn't have the grit required to talk about the things that Anderson does and indeed they turned him away when he offered to stand.
@@RobMcGrath0 and yet they will get into bed with the likes of Barnaby Joyce 😞
Knowledge is the ability to learn. Intelligence is the ability to question what you have learned.
Peter Hitchens is without question the premier intellectual of our time. His analysis of almost every topic is brilliant and clear sighted. He's absolutely fantastic.
I wish his brother was still with us.
They would never change re God
But I reckon they would agree on
All the important things
And what a wonderful thing it would have been to have them apply their combined intellect to those problems
That said Peter is a gift to us in his own right...
@@eugenemurray2940 I love Christopher too. I wonder what he would have had to say about today? I miss him every day
Thank you John Anderson , I love listening to your intelligent conversations with a great deal of gravitas ,with whomever you invite on to your podcast. I turn off, so much of what young journalists regurgitate to-day, without much knowledge of the facts or history. I might add, I tune in from Cyprus.
Superb from PH , once again clear,concise, logical, cognitive.
😊🏴☠️
Man, this guy has so many great insights.
It's sad that there are very few voices out there like Peter Hitchens. He presents a more balanced view, although he does pull his punches some.
Good to see Hitchens saying "unless you know, you cannot begin to think".
We have an appalling range of courses, teachers and students due to people failing in indispensable skills, but our state says, "never mind do a social science, you won't be a burden of any kind", and that's what they go on to be in a variety of organizations, and often become destructive hateful burdens also...
I think i have to read this guys books.
Fantastic interview.
Very interesting and timely discussion. However, the endless advertisements can be rather annoying.
You need RUclips premium if you are bothered by the ads
@@simonwills-jones5642 yes it's worth getting
@@ralphdavidson9542 or, you know, a time machine back to before youtube had too many ads...
A better example of principle and integrity is hard to find in the media. Sadly.
Actual competent people oversaw the Marshall plan. By the 1990s, we were well on our way to where we are now.
This is what we all need more of
Real talk
Was Russia in 1991 really a "ground zero?" It had not been conquered, destroyed, and occupied like Germany was. The West did not have carte blanche. Other than economic help, it doesn't seem to me that the West could have helped with the fundamentals that Hitchens speaks of: the rule of law, together with freedom of speech, thought and assembly (a very valuable insight on his part).
Absolutely Russia should have been occupied by western powers to forge a regime in their image
When Gorbachev attended a G7 meeting, the US and GB turned their back. There was a concerted and deliberate effort by the so-called 'Neo-Cons' to dismantle the Russian economy (read 'The Shock Doctrine' by Naomi Klein), followed by Clinton's first wave of NATO membership sign-ups, and the attempt to established a uni-polar world power rather than a multi-polar one. But most revealing is 'The Grand Chessboard' by Zbignew Brzezinski in which he says, to put it in a nutshell, that the end of The Soviet Union was not enough, that 'the West' (the USA principally) should think about the break up of the Russian Federation itself, and this process would likely happen with a war in Ukraine. Around 1999, Henry Kissinger said on Japanese television, when asked what was likely to happen in the C21st, that a war in Ukraine was likely, suggesting this would happen around 2011 - out by just 3 years. That was not clairvoyance or magic that he seemed to 'know' the future, but knowledge that a colour revolution would be possible, if financed and encouraged surreptitiously ... Shall I go on? Putin is just the right man to demonise and bring about a future in which global-scale corporate power would be able to get its hands on the vast natural resources Russia has. I offer the tip of the iceberg... all taboo in the mainstream media of course.
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Wonderful interview! I never knew that Peter Hitchens had been a Moscow correspondent and what he had to say about his experience was fascinating. Russia certainly did have a chance to become a real democracy in 1991. It is a huge tragedy that it is now such a brutal autocracy. Every country must take responsibility for itself, but as Peter notes, the often churlish attitude of Western governments towards Russia when it was still a partly democratic state certainly didn't help. My visits to Russia from 1999 to 2004 were not inspired by religion in any way, but they led me on the path to becoming an Orthodox Christian. I will always be very grateful to Russia and the Russian people for that.
It all comes down to what you value. The West is falling into massive decline. The Russians are close allies with the rising international power of China. The world is about to turn on its head.
Probably the best ex-Trotskyist I know of.
Thank god there are still people like Peter, who are prepared to speak out against the tyranny of the liberal/left.
Always love to hear PH and JA but the sound quality needs work.
I don't know what Peter Hitchens is talking about when he thinks the Russians would allow the United States in the west to come in and oversee Democratic proceedings. When the Kursk submarine sank ten tears after the Cold War, the Russians wouldn't let British or American rescue divers come and save the survivors. If the Russians wouldn't allow limited help after a catastrophic disaster like that, what chance was there that they would allow Western help to rebuild their entire political structure?
Two revolutions in Russia?
Well Peter that is the first time I have heard that!
Although I completely recognize that I likley missed it in the many obfiscating treatise I have read online in this digital age.
I shall now persue this Euclidian revelation with enthusiasm.
Would you please provide a transcript of this incredibly illuminating interview? I am having trouble understanding Peter’s English, and I must get this content! Thank you
Hi. Can you turn on closed captions? That might help somewhat.
Very important point - time to stop calling it "soft" totalitarianism. It is also true n even more urgent that we stop using the term marxism when what we are really talking about is communism ? Love blessings n appreciation to you both for all that you do.
You have to value education! There has been such a dumbing down to mediocrity, instead of keeping standards very high. Both my children went to Grammar schools and had a wonderful education. But we are not all equal in intelligence, as a teacher my-self, that is evident. Why do England insists on worrying about feelings? They pretend we are all the same, not so!
Hitchens talks about the Landsdowne letter advocating for peace with Germany, and how no one would publish it.
In 2022 you can't even find the full text of it on the internet.
And the exact same atmosphere is being created again regarding Russia. It seems deliberate to me.
08:33 - 09:00 surely the primary factor in the Marshall Plan wasn't the good will and thoughtfulness of the United States, but rather the fear of losing control of Europe to the Soviet Union.
Also, this quote from the Author of The Guns of August.
In the introduction to her 1978 book A Distant Mirror, Barbara Tuchman playfully identified a historical phenomenon which she termed "Tuchman's Law", to wit:
"Disaster is rarely as pervasive as it seems from recorded accounts. The fact of being on the record makes it appear continuous and ubiquitous whereas it is more likely to have been sporadic both in time and place. Besides, persistence of the normal is usually greater than the effect of the disturbance, as we know from our own times. After absorbing the news of today, one expects to face a world consisting entirely of strikes, crimes, power failures, broken water mains, stalled trains, school shutdowns, muggers, drug addicts, neo-Nazis, and rapists. The fact is that one can come home in the evening-on a lucky day-without having encountered more than one or two of these phenomena. This has led me to formulate Tuchman's Law, as follows: "The fact of being reported multiplies the apparent extent of any deplorable development by five- to tenfold" (or any figure the reader would care to supply)."
Tuchman's Law has been defined as a psychological principle of "perceptual readiness" or "subjective probability"
_________
I suppose one could add Pandemic to that Tuchman list.
Aus.
Hi from Russia. I support Putin etc. like most of us, and I must admit - Mr. Hitchens spoke thruth and thruth only.
Yes, we go back to old tracks because it works. We know how to manage things in autocracy and frankly our history is a success story..With ups and downs, yes, but still... So we chose between not most efficient, but tested and reliable system - and quite dangerous path to liberal democracy, which contradict in many ways with culture and customs, so it means quite deep reshaping of basics of society, and this is tough. And more important it doesnt happen overnight.
From political perspective - it was great leap ahead, in the 90s. What we got in return? Massive impoverishment, country robbed by SOBs who stored their money in London City, wars on our periphery and even inside Russia nobody in the world cares about, terrorism, huge state debt etc.etc. And finally - bingo! - NATO at our border.
We learnt a hard way - freedom not a most important thing in life. Food is. Safe environment. Jobs.
Now, when West itself in deep crisis - theres no way back.
People do care, life is hard and we don't need things to be harder than they already are, but unfortunately some people just want to take more for themselves than they should and don't know when they've had enough.
Close your eyes and he sounds exactly like his late brother.
Yes, but without the hatred of God and religion that Christopher had. Peter is a Christian.
@@cynthiao.543 Everything I have read and seen about the relationship of the two brothers suggests they were a repetition of Evelyn and Alec Waugh. Genetic siblings perhaps, but hardly knowing each other and having nothing in common, even during Peter’s leftist years. I find interviewers constantly asking Peter questions about Christopher that he is completely unable to answer.
You need your ears testing. Their voices are easily distinguishable, and their speech mannerisms are entirely different.
VERY thankful for the closed captioning. For an American Peter's accent and proclivity to mumble makes it difficult to understand him quite often. Which is a shame because I value his point of view greatly although I disagree with him at times. The captioning is by no means perfect. But it's very helpful.
I'm a Brit and I struggle to understand him.
He's not always this bad.
We English have equal difficulty hearing what he says, I can assure you.
Wow….what a right guy.
Introspectively...sunday bloody Sunday
Interesting and enlightening, spoiled only by the intrusive adverts.
To quote the historian of Soviet Russia Alex Nove (he was referring to Stalin's economic policies in the 1930s) "to understand is not to condone, it's simply better than the alternative which is not to understand." Not sure if the quote is word for word accurate but the sense certainly is.
While I don't agree with every word that proceeds from the mouths of either men, I agree with almost everything, but more importantly, I appreciate their thoughtful, reasonable, logical discussions that don't involved arm-waving, tearing down everything and acting like smug pricks. A real breath of fresh air, and worth spending the hour to concentrate on. 👍
When I'm listening to Peter Hitchens talk about the Ukraine conflict I can't help coming to the conclusion that Ukraine only has itself to blame. His rhetoric is of course quite subtle and diplomatic.
Ah yes, let's blame the victim. Are you on Vlad's dole too?
@@CB-ke7eq In my opinion Vlad needs impaling.
Peter's accent sounds like he smoked a whole rainforest but he's a pleasure to listen to.
This dude is cool
101% agree
He's right about Milton Friedman
But what I want to know is what he thinks about the clocks going back.
If memory serves me correctly, he’s against it 🤣
The only option is to try, in small ways, to keep what was valuable alive. It’s a rearguard action but that’s all we have now.
///////what book does he site just after 50 minutes about how cruek the war was mostly to women and children?
Orderly & Humane by R M Douglas
Peter, your question re. treating Russia and China differently is simple. Human nature.
My view of the Russian-Ukraine war is Genovese's went to war with the Gambino's.
The argument that a Marshall Plan should have been imposed to help Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union is laughable. It is one thing to provide immense amounts of money, training, market preference while you occupy and rule a country you have conquered in war, and handing over cash to ex-KGB and communist politicians.
On Hitchens' asking why it has never been explained why the democracy-demanding protests in Eastern Europe and China at the same time were reacted to so differently by the West, he should know. As a trained Marxist, he must realise that the Soviets allowed the end of communist territorial authority in Eastern Europe, while the Chinese maintained it when faced with the same demands from their protesting populace. The institutional Left of the West had been establishing Gramsci-based Marxist society with the aim of imposing soviet-style socialism since the end of WW2. The loss of socialist authority by the Soviets was, and still is, one of the greatest tragedies of the 20th century in their eyes.
People always forget that the objective of the Left is *territorial* authority. The methods to achieve and maintain it are only constrained by "necessity".
Russia had NO experience with capitalism and market economy. They went from feudalism to communism within 5 years. No sociatal memory about anything else....and it shows.
This kind of absurd ignorance and prejudice makes me feel like we deserve our agonizing civilizational decline in the West.
@@SeraphimGoose Could you be more specific?
Russian empire was a proper capitalist economy, with private enterprises, stocks and competition
@@SeraphimGoose we do deserve it 😂
@@GlibIvashkevych ....I wonder where the term " потёмкинские деревни, " came from?
Podcaster? Does he do podcasts ?
When the USSR fell, to be alive was a privilege, but to be in Moscow was very heaven
I was there in October 1991 as a 13 year old on a school trip. I dont think I appreciated the changes much at that age 😂
Talk about the WEF and all that scary stuff
France pushed for WW1, not Germany.
Japan most definitely does not have the rule of law, except with regard to enforcing contracts. It is accepted for example that about 99% of prosecutions end with convictions. Acquittals are rare. Defence lawyers are meaningless.
Really? Oh my god.
What you neglect to mention is that the Japanese police prosecute MUCH less than Western police forces. They almost only prosecute when they are absolutely certain of the accused's guilt. You can "prove" almost anything with statistics, if they are not used with care. You'll need better evidence than THAT to back up your claim that Japan does not have the rule of law.
@@DieFlabbergast Ok I concede - Japan has a uniquely competent, and fair system. And given we can trust that the police there are so careful with gathering evidence it turns out courts are unnecessary anyway. Great👌🏽
Can you please get Dr. Jordan Pederson on?
I wish you'd asked following the point Peter made around 15:00 what exactly the slights we (the West) made against Russia following the end of the Soviet Union. It's not that I disagree per se, it's just that I'm maybe undereducated. I was around at the time but I was a nipper.
For me, I look at New START and the NATO Partnership for Peace and the construction of oil pipelines and Clinton-Yeltsin relations, but I'm also aware of NATO expansion and Kosovo. From the Russian side I'm aware Litvinenko, Georgia, Ukraine, Skripal, and election interference which I'd certainly say amount to Russia pissing on its own chips in terms of its relations with the West.
On the basis of those I've never thought it was as cut and dried as "China = good, Russia = bad", but I'm aware I'm oversimplifying 30 years of foreign relations.
12:41 There is an online gaming company call War Gaming, that was Russian, until earlier this year. In War Gaming circles they are a Pretty Big Deal
Peter Hitchens aka "The Oracle." They don't make them like that anymore.
What does this guy know? I literally watched him suggest the Ukraine invasion was western hype, the week before it happened - and he’s supposed to be an expert on Russia ??
I remember Peter saying that he thought Putin would not invade because if he did he would be mad. In this interview he uses much the same reasoning in regard to Putin using nuclear weapons. Let’s hope he is nearer the mark this time.
As an aside, this guy knows a lot. Almost certainly much more than you, the previously discussed error notwithstanding.
@@graemecreegan6749 why make an adhom attack when we’re commenting on a public figure? He said the west was hyping it & he didn’t know why they were doing it. He might know a lot but if he gets things that wrong I’d be suspect on his judgement & true knowledge of what is going on. As for you I wouldn’t claim to know how much you do or don’t know as I am well aware I couldn’t comment on such
Not listened yet but guesssing once again for 91 millionth time every 91 seconds Hitchens tells of his 91 days in Russia in 91…zzzzz
Peter > Chris
At least Peter is honest about hypocrisy of the Wester. If you hate wars, you should hate it no matter where it is from.
The Marshall Plan was applied in countries that had been comprehensively defeated and were under occupation by Western armies. The immediate post-communist period does not resemble the end of the Second World War so much as the end of the First. Germany's authoritarians weren't ousted then so much as thrown into disarray. They were always going to reorganize and reassert themselves, as did the Russian soviets. There simply could not have been a Marshall Plan - which was not so much a plan as an improvisation - without the level of control and de-communizing that required military occupation. It could not have been done from outside.
You will recall that the Marshall Plan was offered to Eastern Bloc countries, and even to Russia itself. The result was a series of coups in Eastern European countries that ensured hard-liners directly controlled by Moscow replaced more moderate socialists. The Marshall Plan marked the beginning of the cold war. Russian reaction wasn't comprehended then either.
I have always seen Russia as the last missing part of Europe
Cool room, where are you?
It is no longer soft or quiet when people like Rishi Sunak in the UK are writing papers on the introduction of eCurrency whereby employers and the government can have a say on what you can spend your money on. When Bankers in the Netherlands are floating the prospect of an individual carbon footprint measure and allowance and the ability to trade that (ie for rich elites to hoover the allowances up to fund their private jets while most others cannot travel at all) and when digital health passports and central control of food production are fast becoming a reality spearheaded by the WEF YGL acolytes and pin up boys in Canada and the Netherlands while C19 unvaccinated people are marginalised and vilified, despite being proven absolutely correct in their rejection of the poisonous experimental drug.