As a Twins fan, I’m still pissed Colon got the Cy Young over Santana in ‘05. Also it’s going to be REALLY interesting to see how Mauer’s Hall of Fame voting compares to Buster Posey’s once Posey is eligible. They had extremely similar careers, with Posey having a huge edge in postseason success and Mauer having the edge in peak performance and sabermetrics.
@@axelagosto5196 It's a big reason why Mike Trout could retire tomorrow and still get elected to the HOF, probably on the first ballot. Also given how most teams use it to target free agents and build rosters on a budget, there's probably some validity to it.
I know your hearts in the right place, but i think you're a little too lenient on who you want it. I def think helton, jones, beltre, mauer and wagner should be in but the rest i think are more like hall of very good, not hall of fame.
Good job, Eric! If I was able to vote, I would vote for: Carlos Beltran, Adrian Beltre, Bartolo Colon, Todd Helton, Andruw Jones, Victor Martinez, Andy Pettitte, Brandon Phillips, Omar Vizquel, and Billy Wagner.
Great commentary. Right now, I would vote Beltre, Helton, Wagner, Jones. Thinking of Beltran, Mauer, and Francisco Rodriguez. Not sure why no one really talks about K-Rod but he deserves consideration since he is 4th on all time saves list, set the single season saves record and is a 6-time all-star. I think the other newcomers were great players but not quite Hall of Fame worthy. I’m not in favor of rewarding PED users with a vote even though a few have already got in.
There are two main reasons for K-Rod not being talked about. The first is that he is seen as a prime example of closers having more volume than skill, especially compared to someone like Wagner. The second is that he physically assaulted both his wife and his father-in-law.
The Hall of Fame ballot is the highlight of my offseason. Picking my 10 is always a fun process. Beltré Helton A-Rod Manny Sheffield Wagner Beltran Buerhle Mauer Andruw Jones
Great show!! I've been trying to figure out what I'd do if SF owner, then I think about what they will do. Lol lol nothing lol lol. After 2024, SF has no payroll lol lol Webb Rogers. Lol lol that's it. There are FA out there noe, overpriced one dimensional Chapman. SF a negative 12 WAR at 3rd with Davis defense. SF can justify Chapman on his Defense alone. Not to mention Davis led SF at what lol 240? Heck Chapman hits that lol lol. price however and get make me go back to dreaming about Schmitt!! Luciano, is not ready. All our one year players, are mediocre. Haniger, conforto, descalfani, stripling, yas, slater, flores, slater. All are one year from disappearing. Lets end this now and trade this entire grouping!! Include Farhan! Yamamoto, $30 Lee $20, Snell $25, Chapman $15, Hoskins $15, I'm totally out on Bellinger, his D, is good he is versatile, but no way I'm going $25 mil for 7!!! Nooooo
My pick who think get in Helton, Mauer, Beltre and maybe Andrew Jones. Baseeball writers like Utley . Why Tori Hunter dose not get a better look. David Wright will surprise lot people. He will get 20 percent.
My predictions: Beltre first ballot probably between 85-90%. Old school voters will hate him because he lacks the awards and world series ring, but younger voters love him. Helton gets in Wagner could go either way within 2% of 75% Andruw Jones breaks 65%. He gets in 2025 Beltran breaks 50%, maybe 55% Mauer almost makes it first ballot, at least 55% He makes it 2025. David Wright barely survives, probably gets around 7-10%. He either will make it in his 10th year, or he doesn't and makes it in the vets committee one day. He's what the vets committee was made for. Matt Holliday gets 2-3% Bartolo gets a few votes Reyes gets a vote or two Nobody else gets a single vote Utley gets a strong first showing, but will take several ballots, probably gets around 40-45% this year Sheffield, Manny, and A-Rod stay in the same limbo and rightly so. If Barry Bonds isn't in the hall for steroids, NO WAY should a guy like Sheffield, who barely hit 500, gets in. Nobody should make the hall who did steroids until Barry Bonds does because Barry only cheated after Bud Selig made it clear he was a useless commissioner. Modest gains for everyone else. It's a small ballot this year, and there's less controversial guys on the ballot (Sosa, Mac, Clemens, etc.). I'd love to be proven wrong with Mauer, Wagner, Chase Utley, and Andruw Jones and see them all make it this year, because after this year, we have a loaded ballot with CC, Ichiro, and lots of borderline guys like Pedroia in addition to an already large amount of quality candidates. I hate to see guys who might not be surefire hall of famers like Tim Hudson or Joe Nathan fall off the ballot only because there's too many candidates siphoning off votes from each other.
I have Mauer in 2026 with CC Sabathia. Class of 2025 is probably just Andruw and Ichiro. Initially had Beltran in 2027 but it might not take him not long
Barry bonds never failed a test and he isn't on there. He missed his chance and that is just garbage the HOF is a joke and I would never let my kid play a game that crucifies players that were proven innocent
Great video, lotta fun - thank you! Love your choices. Maurer was a beast, hated playing the twins as an oriole fan because of him. Todd Helton should’ve already been in there, and Matt Holliday belongs as well. Beltran is a no-brainer ,put him in.
Hell give me bartolo for no other reason than him being entertaining AF and that home run he hit, helton should get in, beltre should get in, Wagner eh sure ig, Jones nah, Beltran no, Sheffield not until Barry bonds is in first js , mauer will take a while but he will get in, utley no, wright no
Mauer’s a weird one because his entire career unfortunately coincided with that playoff losing streak. That coupled with his injury riddled second half of his career with a position switch to 1B probably clouds just how unprecedentedly good he was in his first 10 seasons. Not holding my breath on a first ballot election, but I’m definitely rooting for him
If playing local games at Colorado's Coors Field is so advantageous, shouldn't all the players in the Rockies' line up hit .300-.350 and slug 30-40 HR ??? Then, how come Todd Helton and Larry Walker are the only Rockies with HOF worthy numbers ??? It is not advantageous if it is equal. Helton should have been enshrined already, hoping to finally see him elected.
I don’t understand why closers get voted in. Most tried to be starters, but were not good enough. They are like any other reliever, but pitch the last inning If the third starter on any team was moved to closer, they would be better than the existing closer. They are just failed starters that don’t have the arm, diversity of pitches, or durability to be a starter
Beltran took a major role in the cheating scandal and is said to be involved in that method before he came to the astros. I think he doesn't deserve to be in the HOF.
As an Astros fan, I DESPISE Beltran for what he did to us. That said, he has the New York thing going for him, and we all know how the voters react to that. It’ll take some years, but he will undoubtedly be the third player elected to the Hall as a Met.
I explained pretty clearly I knew he was great but didn't quite remember how great because I watch mostly National League.. but after checking his stats he's a definite Hall of Famer. And you're still offended... why? What's your problem exactly? I admit I'm not perfect and don't have every players career stats memorized so I had to do some research to remember how great he was.
@@HummBabyBaseball I'm not offended, I just disagree. Strongly. I'm a "big" Hall guy and would put in pretty much everyone with a WAR above 60, but Bartolo Colon, who I liked a lot at the end of his career, is a ridiculous consideration for the HOF. On the other hand Mauer has been considered a lock since he retired.
@forgerelli1 I know Mauer was considered a future HOFer but I forgot just how good he was until I looked at the stats as I explained. Colon has longevity.. nearly 300 wins.. 2500 Ks.. and a Cy Young. Of course he's not as great as Mauer.. I never said he was.. I just said if not for the steroid connection I would vote for him but not over Mauer.
@@HummBabyBaseballyou should be forgiven about Mauer. The dude had a *PHENOMENAL* time as a catcher. Hall of Fame great. Then the injuries came, and he went to first and was just okay. Local fans even forgot how damned *ALL TIME GREAT* he was before then. Then you check the stats and are like...oh, oh shit sorry Joe, here's the jacket do you need to me to lick your ass too because I feel damn stupid for even thinking you didn't belong sorry bb.
@@HummBabyBaseball But did Colon deserve the Cy Young? He was a really fun guy to watch, and pitched forever. But longevity is only good if the player was actually good for a long time. His ERA and WAR tell me he wasn't very good for a lot of those years.
It sucks that hall of fame players get screwed by injuries and you'll have some guys get in just cuz they got a bunch of stats complied. You know a HOF guy when u see them
Helton never 'felt' like HoF because there were a lot of 1B that played at or around his level PLUS the dumb Coors effect .850 vs .1050 OPS home vs away. Beltre is one of the best 3b to ever play the game and catchers are VASTLY underrepresented Mauer definitely in the same way Posey will be in Jones not being first ballot is flipping silly clownball stuff tbqh
Todd Helton has been held out for too long. This year I want to see Todd Helton and Adrian Beltre.
As a Twins fan, I’m still pissed Colon got the Cy Young over Santana in ‘05. Also it’s going to be REALLY interesting to see how Mauer’s Hall of Fame voting compares to Buster Posey’s once Posey is eligible. They had extremely similar careers, with Posey having a huge edge in postseason success and Mauer having the edge in peak performance and sabermetrics.
I don't believe sabermetrics are important
@@axelagosto5196 It's a big reason why Mike Trout could retire tomorrow and still get elected to the HOF, probably on the first ballot. Also given how most teams use it to target free agents and build rosters on a budget, there's probably some validity to it.
@@axelagosto5196 awe come on sabrmetrics are incredibly important
I think this year it will be Beltre, Helton, and Wagner.
Jones goes in next year with Ichiro
Matt Hoilday cannot get in the Hall until Matanly , Clark, Paker , Titant , Whitker , Hernandez, and Hersheir get in k.
I know your hearts in the right place, but i think you're a little too lenient on who you want it. I def think helton, jones, beltre, mauer and wagner should be in but the rest i think are more like hall of very good, not hall of fame.
Good job, Eric! If I was able to vote, I would vote for: Carlos Beltran, Adrian Beltre, Bartolo Colon, Todd Helton, Andruw Jones, Victor Martinez, Andy Pettitte, Brandon Phillips, Omar Vizquel, and Billy Wagner.
Bartolo doesnt even make the hall of very good. Hes in the hall of above average
I know he won't.. that's what I said.
Wow. A lot of my favorite players growing up are on this one. I’m pulling for Joe Mauer!
Great commentary. Right now, I would vote Beltre, Helton, Wagner, Jones. Thinking of Beltran, Mauer, and Francisco Rodriguez. Not sure why no one really talks about K-Rod but he deserves consideration since he is 4th on all time saves list, set the single season saves record and is a 6-time all-star. I think the other newcomers were great players but not quite Hall of Fame worthy. I’m not in favor of rewarding PED users with a vote even though a few have already got in.
There are two main reasons for K-Rod not being talked about. The first is that he is seen as a prime example of closers having more volume than skill, especially compared to someone like Wagner. The second is that he physically assaulted both his wife and his father-in-law.
Beltran is a HOF combined power,hitting,defense
Billy Wagner & John Franco both over 400 SAVES & left handed & there r no lefty relivers in the Hall.
The Hall of Fame ballot is the highlight of my offseason. Picking my 10 is always a fun process.
Beltré
Helton
A-Rod
Manny
Sheffield
Wagner
Beltran
Buerhle
Mauer
Andruw Jones
Given Bonds, Clemens and Schiling didn’t make it the standard has been set for no steroids and no character questions.
Media might not talk a lot about V Mart's career but the guy was great. Look at his numbers, they are just impressive even if WAR is not that good.
Especially for a C. Of course he split time between C and 1B, then basically just DH at the end of his career. Very solid career.
Thanks Eric for anything baseball.😎⚾💯
Great show!! I've been trying to figure out what I'd do if SF owner, then I think about what they will do. Lol lol nothing lol lol. After 2024, SF has no payroll lol lol Webb Rogers. Lol lol that's it. There are FA out there noe, overpriced one dimensional Chapman. SF a negative 12 WAR at 3rd with Davis defense. SF can justify Chapman on his Defense alone. Not to mention Davis led SF at what lol 240? Heck Chapman hits that lol lol. price however and get make me go back to dreaming about Schmitt!! Luciano, is not ready. All our one year players, are mediocre. Haniger, conforto, descalfani, stripling, yas, slater, flores, slater. All are one year from disappearing. Lets end this now and trade this entire grouping!! Include Farhan! Yamamoto, $30 Lee $20, Snell $25, Chapman $15, Hoskins $15, I'm totally out on Bellinger, his D, is good he is versatile, but no way I'm going $25 mil for 7!!! Nooooo
My pick who think get in Helton, Mauer, Beltre and maybe Andrew Jones. Baseeball writers like Utley . Why Tori Hunter dose not get a better look. David Wright will surprise lot people. He will get 20 percent.
STILL mad the Thrill never made it🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
If Ted Simmons can make it, Mauer should make it eventually.
IF THERE IS JUSTICE IN THE HALL OF FAME HELTON AND ADRIAN BELTRE SHOULD BE ELECTED INTO THE HALL OF FAME PERID.
I think Matt Holiday's son, if he stays healthy, will outshine his father.
Beltre is a no brainer
My predictions:
Beltre first ballot probably between 85-90%. Old school voters will hate him because he lacks the awards and world series ring, but younger voters love him.
Helton gets in
Wagner could go either way within 2% of 75%
Andruw Jones breaks 65%. He gets in 2025
Beltran breaks 50%, maybe 55%
Mauer almost makes it first ballot, at least 55% He makes it 2025.
David Wright barely survives, probably gets around 7-10%. He either will make it in his 10th year, or he doesn't and makes it in the vets committee one day. He's what the vets committee was made for.
Matt Holliday gets 2-3%
Bartolo gets a few votes
Reyes gets a vote or two
Nobody else gets a single vote
Utley gets a strong first showing, but will take several ballots, probably gets around 40-45% this year
Sheffield, Manny, and A-Rod stay in the same limbo and rightly so. If Barry Bonds isn't in the hall for steroids, NO WAY should a guy like Sheffield, who barely hit 500, gets in. Nobody should make the hall who did steroids until Barry Bonds does because Barry only cheated after Bud Selig made it clear he was a useless commissioner.
Modest gains for everyone else. It's a small ballot this year, and there's less controversial guys on the ballot (Sosa, Mac, Clemens, etc.).
I'd love to be proven wrong with Mauer, Wagner, Chase Utley, and Andruw Jones and see them all make it this year, because after this year, we have a loaded ballot with CC, Ichiro, and lots of borderline guys like Pedroia in addition to an already large amount of quality candidates. I hate to see guys who might not be surefire hall of famers like Tim Hudson or Joe Nathan fall off the ballot only because there's too many candidates siphoning off votes from each other.
I have Mauer in 2026 with CC Sabathia. Class of 2025 is probably just Andruw and Ichiro. Initially had Beltran in 2027 but it might not take him not long
I’m blessed to have watched Adrian Beltre almost daily for 8 seasons
Barry bonds never failed a test and he isn't on there. He missed his chance and that is just garbage the HOF is a joke and I would never let my kid play a game that crucifies players that were proven innocent
Great video, lotta fun - thank you! Love your choices. Maurer was a beast, hated playing the twins as an oriole fan because of him. Todd Helton should’ve already been in there, and Matt Holliday belongs as well. Beltran is a no-brainer ,put him in.
Beltre, Helton get in this year. Wagner gets to 72%. Andruw Jones and Mauer get around 60-65%. Next Year Ichiro is on the ballot.
Doesn’t matter, no Rose, Bonds, Clemens, Sosa, McGwire. Etc, mlb knew at the time and the fans get robbed!!!!
I'm not too excited about the HoF because there are so many who don't deserve because of juicing; then guys like Bonds won't get in.
Hell give me bartolo for no other reason than him being entertaining AF and that home run he hit, helton should get in, beltre should get in, Wagner eh sure ig, Jones nah, Beltran no, Sheffield not until Barry bonds is in first js , mauer will take a while but he will get in, utley no, wright no
Todd Helton>Larry Walker. Why? Helton could hit just as well on the road
Helton, is the greatest Colorado player ever. He holds nearly all the Rockies records.
David Wright is a Hall of Fame
Mauer’s a weird one because his entire career unfortunately coincided with that playoff losing streak. That coupled with his injury riddled second half of his career with a position switch to 1B probably clouds just how unprecedentedly good he was in his first 10 seasons. Not holding my breath on a first ballot election, but I’m definitely rooting for him
Helton, betran , Wagner, beltre, jones might get close
If playing local games at Colorado's Coors Field is so advantageous, shouldn't all the players in the Rockies' line up hit .300-.350 and slug 30-40 HR ???
Then, how come Todd Helton and Larry Walker are the only Rockies with HOF worthy numbers ??? It is not advantageous if it is equal. Helton should have been enshrined already, hoping to finally see him elected.
I don’t understand why closers get voted in. Most tried to be starters, but were not good enough. They are like any other reliever, but pitch the last inning
If the third starter on any team was moved to closer, they would be better than the existing closer. They are just failed starters that don’t have the arm, diversity of pitches, or durability to be a starter
Beltre, Wagner, Andruw Jones, Helton, Vizquel, Abreu, Beltran
Mauer, Beltre, and Beltran deserve it this year
Beltran took a major role in the cheating scandal and is said to be involved in that method before he came to the astros. I think he doesn't deserve to be in the HOF.
As an Astros fan, I DESPISE Beltran for what he did to us. That said, he has the New York thing going for him, and we all know how the voters react to that. It’ll take some years, but he will undoubtedly be the third player elected to the Hall as a Met.
You'd vote for Bartolo Colon, but you didn't know how good Joe Mauer was?
I explained pretty clearly I knew he was great but didn't quite remember how great because I watch mostly National League.. but after checking his stats he's a definite Hall of Famer. And you're still offended... why? What's your problem exactly? I admit I'm not perfect and don't have every players career stats memorized so I had to do some research to remember how great he was.
@@HummBabyBaseball I'm not offended, I just disagree. Strongly. I'm a "big" Hall guy and would put in pretty much everyone with a WAR above 60, but Bartolo Colon, who I liked a lot at the end of his career, is a ridiculous consideration for the HOF. On the other hand Mauer has been considered a lock since he retired.
@forgerelli1 I know Mauer was considered a future HOFer but I forgot just how good he was until I looked at the stats as I explained. Colon has longevity.. nearly 300 wins.. 2500 Ks.. and a Cy Young. Of course he's not as great as Mauer.. I never said he was.. I just said if not for the steroid connection I would vote for him but not over Mauer.
@@HummBabyBaseballyou should be forgiven about Mauer. The dude had a *PHENOMENAL* time as a catcher. Hall of Fame great. Then the injuries came, and he went to first and was just okay.
Local fans even forgot how damned *ALL TIME GREAT* he was before then. Then you check the stats and are like...oh, oh shit sorry Joe, here's the jacket do you need to me to lick your ass too because I feel damn stupid for even thinking you didn't belong sorry bb.
@@HummBabyBaseball But did Colon deserve the Cy Young? He was a really fun guy to watch, and pitched forever. But longevity is only good if the player was actually good for a long time. His ERA and WAR tell me he wasn't very good for a lot of those years.
It sucks that hall of fame players get screwed by injuries and you'll have some guys get in just cuz they got a bunch of stats complied. You know a HOF guy when u see them
Helton never 'felt' like HoF because there were a lot of 1B that played at or around his level PLUS the dumb Coors effect .850 vs .1050 OPS home vs away. Beltre is one of the best 3b to ever play the game and catchers are VASTLY underrepresented Mauer definitely in the same way Posey will be in
Jones not being first ballot is flipping silly clownball stuff tbqh
Andy Petitte is the ONLY pitcher in MLB HISTORY to win that many games, have 5 rings & NEVER had a LOSING season.
talk about longevity& wins how can u forget Tommy John?
the ones on the list played for the Yankees will not get in because the writers are biased against the YANKEES!