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@@benjaminleedy it looks like a fair value. Components are good. Having an air fork in this price range is good. I'm not familiar with their fork, but Giant make quality products.
@@AdrenalineIsLife awesome, thank you. One of the biggest selling points is that there's a GIANT licensed retailer, which means local parts and service instead of ordering online.
I will never ride anything less than what i have now. A 2018 GT avalanche. 135 QR frame with a 15x100 front thru axle, dropper, custom wheelset tubeless mavic-dt- swiss, ice tech rotors, 6120 deore 4 piston brakes, renthal fatbar and apex stem, an slx xt and xtr drivetrain. Maxxis tires
I just picked up the 2022 Giant Talon 1 with 27.5”, just under the $1k mark with an air fork which is unheard of. I have about 200 miles on it now and I’m loving it.
Just bought a Salsa RangeFinder Deor 1x12 with the RST aerial air shocks. Felt so much better than the CO-OP and Cannondale I test ride. It’s such a solid bike and handles mid level trails with ease
The prices for mtb are generally insane and ridiculous. Being in oriduction and working with China for over 10 years, I can totally confirm that. No bike should cost over $500, all those parts are durt cheap and they are all made in vhina regardless. I just see the rip off going on in the hobby. What people basically pay is a middle man 1000% markups, nothing else.
Another nice breakdown of some quality bikes. I like how you are so detailed and point out the little things most people (ME) would overlook! Now let's see some more riding vids soon eh!
Thanks. I have a few more product vids before Christmas. Then I'll start putting out some more riding videos. Got a few in various stages of completion. 😉
Daaaaaaang!!! I see you, bro! Sick shirt! By the way, props on tackling a video like this. Ive told you before, these are hard for me to go after. Lots of work. Also, love your backdrop.
All great choices but I feel another bike which is an incredible machine, that is the Canyon Stoic 2 29" 2023, my bike. This bike is a beast out on the trails
I'm a complete noob, occasional, path, light trail, family rider who's just looking to upgrade from the department store type of bikes. This review is fantastic. Thank you very much, from just outside Toronto Canada. Currency converter at the ready. LMAO! Sub'd.
I recently got a 2020 Kona blast used. It looks to have the same frame geometry as the fire mountain you recommended. I think it is a superb handling bike for the money.
IMO That Marin San Quentin steals the show! And, for what it's worth, my advice would be: 'Spend as much money as you absolutely can'! Don't go: 'I have this much money but if I only buy that, I will have this much left in the bank or that much left over for a doo-da'. Or else, you will always know that you do not have the best bike you could have afforded, at the time, and you will always regret what you did. It is is a hellish thing to have just spent a lot of money on pretty expensive new bike and be wishing you had something else. I bought a Ragley Marley 2.0 and, even so, I wish I had spent 300 more on the 1.0, with the 11 gears, dropper post and Marzocchi's. Also (and this is a good one), check eBay (not just for 'used') for 'New (Other)'; or big retailers who sell reconditioned 'Customer Returns'. They may have one or 2 chips on the frame, that you would probably acquire within a few weeks, anyway, or they may have had other issues checked and rectified but they won't be getting sold, still with a problem existing because the seller doesn't want the hassle or negative feedback of another dissatisfied customer return on a website where sellers depend on positive feedback, like eBay and you usually find that the prices end at 3/4, or less, than the normal price, if it's an auction (and they usually are auctioned because the retailers don't want them lying around, taking up space, waiting for someone to buy them at a 'Buy It Now' price. They want them 'out of the door'. Again: I was kicking myself over that last one because I found out about it, too late.
I have a Trek Marlin 7. Big step up from a Walmart bike, but quickly starts showing its shortcomings. Frame geometry and hard to upgrade are major downers.
@@AdrenalineIsLife I've had my Trek Marlin since 2004 and am looking for my next bike. Now ready to step up the game and figure out what we can ride in the mountains in CO
The LBS has a sale, so I picked up a Kona Fire Mountain for my wife for US$369. Told her it is a very good bike but she don’t seem to believe me 😅 Maybe it is because the original bike I gifted to her is a NOS 2011 Orbea Orca with Campagnolo 10 speed Record group and Campagnolo Scirocco wheels. But she want a bike with baby seat mount so the Kona.
@markhuang4921 What? The lowest I'm seeing Kona bikes for locally is $650ish.....I thought that was tempting....I would've definitely jumped on it at $369. You got an awesome deal.
Great video! Am hoping to pick up the xtrada 6 1x11 or the new H30 Orbea Laufey! Would you recommend the Laufey for the extra price? I think that the 140mm suspension is deffinitley a big plus over the Xtrada's 120
Thanks! Orbea makes a good bike and 140mm is a good all around travel for a variety of trails. The Laufey falls in the Hardcore hardtail category. I think there are better value bikes for the price in that category but its hard to deny the cool factor of Laufey.
I'm curious how the out going Giant Talon bikes stack up to these. I'm looking at the Talon 1 with it's 1x10 Shimano Deore drive train, hydraulic disk brakes, what seems like a decent fork (I'm kinda confused about that), Maxxis Rekon 2.4 inch tires, and pretty aggressive geometry on their 27.5s, and thinking it would be one of the better values on this list. - The Talon 2 even looks pretty good, though I believe the fork is pretty low spec. - Just wondering what your main criticisms of those bikes would be when compared against this list.
By outgoing. I assume you're talking about the 2021 models. The Talon1 you reference comes with a Rockshox Judy which is their most basic coil spring fork. The 2022 version comes with Giants own brand air fork which I've heard good things about. I don't believe the 2022 model was released at the time I made the video. It's a good value bike, which is Giant's forte. The 1x10 will be fine as long as you don't have a lot of long sustained climbs at your local trails. For XC riding it is plenty. Of course there is no substitute for fitness. I would prefer the 2022 over the 2021 because of the air fork. The Talon is definitely a contender in this category.
I just got my first real mountain bike a 2023 Gt avalanche sport it’s pretty nice I just wish it was a 1x not a 2x but other than that it’s a solid bike
Welcome to mountain biking! The Avalanche is a nice frame at a good price. Enjoy the bike, and don't worry about the 2x. You can always change it down the road.
Good luck finding these bikes..i think the best bikes are the bikes that are available, being a newbie i just bought a specialized rockhopper from a locaL shop thats 20 mins away from where I live..i would love to buy a polygon siskie after i gain experience with my skills..
@@martiawesome 100% agree. If you don't plan on bombing downhills you don't really need the aggressive geo. I'd also consider the Giant Stance, Vitus Mythique, and the Marin... it's name has slipped my mind. All seem to be good value along with the Polygon D6. D7 might over kill
I don't know any of these bikes, the two I have been considering have been the Trek Marlin 7 and the Giant Talon 1 2022 models. I have a Motobecane Fantom Trail D/S I picked up from Marketplace, but for some reason I despise that thing! On level terrain including asphalt it's a chore to pedal, my strength training bike a Mongoose Vinson fat tire is actually a lot easier to pedal up to and maintain speed!? I've had the Fantom serviced at the shop with new cassette, chain, and full tune up, and it's still a chore to ride. It's pretty bad when I go to the local trails I grab my Mongoose ridged fat tire rather than my duel suspension Motobecane.
Some of these Suntour forks have warnings on them not to use it for trail riding and only use it for easy XC riding, is that true or they are just required to say that?
The bikes in the video are XC bikes and are perfectly fine for trail riding. The forks are designed for that type of riding. They don't want you doing any extreme downhill riding riding or freeride.
What do you consider a shorter ride or does it depend on the eighth of the person how tall or how short do you have to be to operate a small medium large or extra large frame for any of your bicycles that you are reviewing?
The bike company's sizing guides are a starting point. There are a lot of variables when it comes to bike sizing and everyone is proportioned differently. I look at the geometry relative to other bikes and bikes I've spent time on. Too small a bike will be very playful but you'll be twitchy and cramped at high speed. Too big a bike, you'll have stability but you'll have a high seated position and less control when moving over obstacles. For most people the sizing per the manufacturer is correct. Of course, there is no substitute for testing a bike before you buy.
@@AdrenalineIsLife well, i kinda Just wanna get into biking for my overall health and get to do a sport instead of sitting and playing video games all day when im not working.
@@SmogythoAwesome! Biking is the best way to stay fit. Road bikes are great for cardio. Mountain bikes are great for your core. They're a workout but you'll want to keep doing it because it's fun.
Great video... I'm an 47 older noob... looking to get into mtb could you suggest a starting platform for an easy upgradable as skill increases... hardtail looks fun thou I'm not sure if a squishy might be a better option for me... thou budget is a problem under 1000$. Used could be an option... what is your suggestions... thanks for any help.
A good full squish is going to be difficult to find for less than $1k. All the bikes mentioned in the video are good starter bikes. The Xtrada 6 being the most modern and upgradeable.
The DRT 1.1 is a good starter bike if you're looking to get into mountain biking for as little money as possible. It's not as well equipped as the bikes in this video but it's also much cheaper. It's equipped with all brand name parts (albeit entry level parts) and you have the benefit local REI for service. If you're a co-op member you would typically get 10% dividend as well. Hope that helps.
Of all the bikes you mentioned, which in your opinion would be the best for a beginner and also bedt value for the money. Looking to purchase a bike soon and saw the marin san quentin and is on my list.
All the bikes on the list are good beginner bikes. The San Quentin is a great choice that will grow with you. The Polygon Xtrada is also a great choice and is the best value from a spec to cost perspective IMHO..
If someone were to go with the marin san quentin, would you recommend just getting the 1 or just get the 2? Also, tbe liv tempt 1 was on my list. Could you te me your opinion on that one?
@@holliedekraai4137 The San Quentin 2 will be more capable long term and will be capable as you grow your skills. I'm not really familiar with the Liv. It a women's specific bike so sizing will favor female riders. It's more of a traditional cross country geometry. It will favor more tame terrain. From a value perspective it looks to be reasonably spec'd for the money. Hope that helps.
Hi, I like the look of the San Quentin, what's it like when climbing, I'm 64 years old now and I'm not going to hang my boots up yet. my old GT mtb has seen better days, so looking to up grade, thanks.
I think the problem is we are saying a budget bike is 1000. I do not know whos budget you are looking for but having a decent size family justifying a 1k fir a bike is hard.
We are talking about capable mountain bikes for mountain biking. There are plenty of budget bikes out there that will be cheaper. That's not the scope of this video. Also, if you are talking about buying bikes for a family. I assume you are referring to children. Kids mountain bikes can be purchased for much less. You can find good brands for as little as $200.
I'm wanting to get into trail riding with my kids. We would be on rolling, hilly terrain - nothing too crazy - so I'm looking for an entry level bike that's comfortable but capable. I am 6'2", 215 lbs, 38 yrs old, reasonably fit, and my arms are the length of someone 2-3" taller than me (if that makes a difference). Currently, the Marin Bobcat 4 is on sale for $810 (shipping included); the Rocky Mtn Fusion 10 is on sale for $866 (shipping included). Would you recommend one over the other? I'm pretty new to this so any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!
Both good entry level choices. I own both Marin and Rocky Mountain bikes personally. Both make quality bikes. However, the edge goes to the Marin here. A little more travel, wider range gearing and the brakes are more common so a little easier to get serviced.
i really want the Marin San Quentin 1 but don’t like that the rear axle is QR. I want to buy the San Quentin 2, but don’t really like the colors. The metal color San Quentin 1 is soooo clean.
My pleasure. The 2021 Polygon Xtrada 7 is on clearance for $919. Otherwise, I haven't seen any bikes with thru axle that retail for less than $1k tidd.ly/33MyFwi
@@AdrenalineIsLife thanks. I'm hoping thru-axles will trickle down to lower price points. But I guess with the worldwide supply chain issues, it will be a while before this will happen.
any advice on good mountain bike for traveling from state to state through trailers parks, rocky roads, hard to ride places, with trailer attach to it... looking to buy soon for long journey trip any advice Dear brethrens under $600
You'll need something with a lot of accessory mounts. Beefy 29 in tires or 27.5 plus tires. For under $600 you will not find a new bike like that. You will have to search on the used market. Perhaps someone can chime in with some good suggestions.
Spend a little more and you’ll get a more capable bike. Salsa was mentioned in this video. That’s a capable bike to do what you want. That said, $600 will get you a bike from Dicks Sporting goods. You can check there if you have not already.
@@willienillie6337 actually did & it was worth it, Got me Gaint Talon 2 2022 this years model & wow amazing..... learning more about it.... reason I ask because people sale their bikes too.... & that would be price idea for off line buy or store buy... you know... still be good to inform us about good bikes....
Hi my friend... I'm Jim from Greece, and i need a new hardtail...and i saw youre suggestion about Marin quentin 1, so my guestion is Marin or Trek Roscue 6?
Hi Jim. I'd go for whichever has the better fork. I sold a trek x-caliber and bought a marin indian fire trail. Both make excellent frames so I'd just get the one with the better components.
Jim, the Roscoe has a more conservative geometry but is spec'd with slightly better components. The San Quentin is more aggressive geometry and costs slightly less here in the USA.
It depends on your riding style. In a nutshell, If you like to throw the bike around, 27.5 is a better choice. If you tend to plow through the trail or you log long miles and want to smooth out the trail, a 29er is going to be the best option.
Hey im looking to get into trail riding with my wife and im stuck right now between the trek marlin 6 or the salsa rangefinder advent/deore. Theyre both $750 at my local stores. Any insight would be awesome!
The Rangefinder hands down. If you are getting mountain biking, the rangefinder has 20mm more travel on the fork, which gives you an extra measure of forgiveness without feeling mushy. It also has a thru axle on the fork. The frame has boost spacing. It can also run 29in or 27.5+. It's a more versatile design, in my opinion, and a great starter bike. Especially at $750.
Just getting into riding looking for a bike to ride to work and hit some trails I’m bigger guy 6’2 280 looking to spend under 1200 any recommendation greatly appreciate it
You should look for a bike that has an air fork instead of a coil fork. This will make it easier to setup the bike to your weight. Unfortunately at that price there aren't many options like that. Two that come to mind are the Canyon Stoic 2 and the Polygon Xtrada 7. Also both have boost frames which adds strength to the rear of the bike. Both fantastic values for the money.
The Polygon Xtrada is hard to beat for a beginner. It's well equipped and has a good all around design that will be a good platform to learn on and will grow with you as your abilities progress.
Sizing will vary depending on the brand. Usually a 5'9 rider fits in a size medium but not always. Each brand will have a sizing guide on their website. As far as wheel size. That depends your riding style and the terrain you ride.
Unfortunately there's no perfect bike at this price point. The Xtrada 6 comes very close, but its 27.2mm saddle post doesn't leave much room for long travel dropper post upgrades.
How do this bikes compare to the marlins 6,I'm in the look out for a bike,we have seems the marlin 6,but wondering if theres any other bikes out there for around that price,ill be getting 2 bikes(partner and i) and a bike trailer
The Marlin was considered but didn't make this list. These bikes are a better value overall. The Marlin isn't a bad bike, but it's over-priced for what you get.
@@AdrenalineIsLife ohhh okay thanks,getting into bikes so its hard knowing,but appreciate the response,also would you know anything about bike trailers for 2 kids?
@Francisco Ayon unfortunately I have little experience with bike trailers. I would recommend checking out the website "two wheeling tots" they are a great resource on the subject of cycling with kids.
I cant help to think 1x drive bikes having that long derailleur and getting it knocked off on trails.I prefer 3x at front or 2x to keep derailleur short in the back
I am looking for information on 18 Speed North Country ATB1000 Mountain bikes main interest is price.Reason for the enquire, I was given two of these bikes, one male one female to put in our Knight's of Columbus fund raising sale. Both bikes are like new I would like some help as to what to ask for them. I live on Cape Breton Island Nova Scotia .ca
Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with that brand. From what I can find they are a big box store brand from a store called Eatons. Typically those bikes are low spec and typically don't command much. Listings for North Country bikes (not that model) seem to be going for $100 to $200 CAD. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Is there a way to talk to you about my bike? I am italian, i am 15 years old and i found your channel 1 month ago. I ride since i was 11, i broke a bmx, a walmart bike and now i ride a 100 € very old bike. I wheelie for the most of the time but i ran in some issues and i dont know what to do. Since i am a teenager i dont have money to buy my dream bike but i have small savings that i want to use for fixing these issues: V type rim brakes are not working. I fall over 6 times a day because they fail on me. I fixed them 5 times, still not working properly. My deraillur gets stuck and my brake is very very old. Plastic pedals failed on me and broke. My fork broke and doest work anymore. I have the rotating deraillur and a dirt cheap brake - brake lever. My handlebar is hurting my figers and is very small. I can send you a photo of the bike if you are willing to help to suggest pieces to change. I am contacting you because i ve seen some cheap builds and mabye you can help me since i cannot afford a new bike. thanks if you will respond, sorry for my bad english.
There are lots of people out there that are doing just fine with sub $1000 bikes. Depends on the brand and specs. $1500 with some brands will get you similar spec as some of these sub $1000 bikes.
@@AdrenalineIsLife i didn't mean that to sound like a bike snob just the fact that bike prices have skyrocketed and half the time you don't get the same spec you think you ordered. That's why I went 2nd hand. Marketplace is flooded with people selling brand new bikes they bought during the pandemic they hardly rode
@@brandonwalker6781 prices definitely have gone up quite a bit. Definitely a good time to find a deal on the used market. We'll start seeing new bikes with better spec for better prices down the road. I think demand for bikes is dropping off back to normal levels.
You should ideally be using about 7/8 of the total travel. If you're only getting 70mm of travel, you may not be heavy enough or there is something wrong with the fork. I suggest contacting Suntour. Entry level coil forks aren't always going to work optimal if the rider is too heavy or too light weight.
You have to be crazy to spend a thousand on a mountain bike, or have more money than brains. What the bastards want $1000 for sold for $150 a year ago.
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CLARIFICATION: The Kona comes with a cassette NOT a freewheel. There was a typo on their website which has been corrected.
Bikes are so much better these days! Which one do you like the best?
These are 2022 Models. So they should be available or available soon.
I'm looking at the 2022 GIANT Talon 1 for $980. How do you think it compares to the bikes on this list?
@@benjaminleedy it looks like a fair value. Components are good. Having an air fork in this price range is good. I'm not familiar with their fork, but Giant make quality products.
@@AdrenalineIsLife awesome, thank you. One of the biggest selling points is that there's a GIANT licensed retailer, which means local parts and service instead of ordering online.
@@benjaminleedy Always good to shop local. Enjoy!
I will never ride anything less than what i have now. A 2018 GT avalanche. 135 QR frame with a 15x100 front thru axle, dropper, custom wheelset tubeless mavic-dt- swiss, ice tech rotors, 6120 deore 4 piston brakes, renthal fatbar and apex stem, an slx xt and xtr drivetrain. Maxxis tires
It’s crazy how much these Hardtail prices have gone up since Covid.
They have. Bikes, components, tires they're all up. The used market is even worse.
Yep....it's insane. Quality bike prices were already very exclusionary and now it's just insane.
The great reset. "You will own nothing and be happy"
Not only hardtail, every bike!
I guess its a good thing that the trails are pretty crowded now. Covid took people to the great outdoors.
I just picked up the 2022 Giant Talon 1 with 27.5”, just under the $1k mark with an air fork which is unheard of. I have about 200 miles on it now and I’m loving it.
The air fork is a nice feature to have especially under $1k. Enjoy!
Just bought a Salsa RangeFinder Deor 1x12 with the RST aerial air shocks. Felt so much better than the CO-OP and Cannondale I test ride. It’s such a solid bike and handles mid level trails with ease
@@Spoolingturbski great bike! Enjoy!
I bought my san quentin 2 special edition for 790euros (little over 800$) which was really amazing offer. Love how it works on icy trails on winter.
The San Quentin is such a great hardtail. Built myself one last summer. I love it.
Enjoy!
I just bought the Salsa Rangefinder, I can't wait to hit the local trails!
Awesome. Enjoy!
This is great! Not everyone needs a >$5K mtb. You can have a lot of fun and be out in the mountains with any of these picks!
Agree 100%. I've been riding the $900 Xtrada 6 and it's been great! Great bikes are very accessible these days.
The prices for mtb are generally insane and ridiculous. Being in oriduction and working with China for over 10 years, I can totally confirm that. No bike should cost over $500, all those parts are durt cheap and they are all made in vhina regardless. I just see the rip off going on in the hobby. What people basically pay is a middle man 1000% markups, nothing else.
Another nice breakdown of some quality bikes. I like how you are so detailed and point out the little things most people (ME) would overlook! Now let's see some more riding vids soon eh!
Thanks. I have a few more product vids before Christmas. Then I'll start putting out some more riding videos. Got a few in various stages of completion. 😉
Daaaaaaang!!! I see you, bro! Sick shirt!
By the way, props on tackling a video like this. Ive told you before, these are hard for me to go after. Lots of work. Also, love your backdrop.
They are a good amount of work to put together but I love to geek out on that stuff. 🙂
I like the Marin and the Polygon. Great video. Bravo from Greece...
All great choices but I feel another bike which is an incredible machine, that is the Canyon Stoic 2 29" 2023, my bike. This bike is a beast out on the trails
Oh, we didn't forget the Stoic. 😉
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I'm a complete noob, occasional, path, light trail, family rider who's just looking to upgrade from the department store type of bikes. This review is fantastic.
Thank you very much, from just outside Toronto Canada. Currency converter at the ready. LMAO! Sub'd.
🙂 I'm glad you found it helpful! Thanks for watching and subscribing. 🙏
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!! ALL ARE GREAT CHOICES!!!! THANKS FOR SHARING!!!!
You're welcome! Glad you enjoyed the video. 🙂
I recently got a 2020 Kona blast used. It looks to have the same frame geometry as the fire mountain you recommended. I think it is a superb handling bike for the money.
Kona makes some very nice bikes. Enjoy!
Wicked video i do love hardtail videos Hardtails, Hardtails, Hardtails and more Hardtails 👍
Thanks! Hardtails are the best.
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Totally agree mate
Great video!
Great review, short sweet and to the point!
Thanks glad you found it helpful.
IMO That Marin San Quentin steals the show! And, for what it's worth, my advice would be: 'Spend as much money as you absolutely can'!
Don't go: 'I have this much money but if I only buy that, I will have this much left in the bank or that much left over for a doo-da'. Or else, you will always know that you do not have the best bike you could have afforded, at the time, and you will always regret what you did. It is is a hellish thing to have just spent a lot of money on pretty expensive new bike and be wishing you had something else. I bought a Ragley Marley 2.0 and, even so, I wish I had spent 300 more on the 1.0, with the 11 gears, dropper post and Marzocchi's.
Also (and this is a good one), check eBay (not just for 'used') for 'New (Other)'; or big retailers who sell reconditioned 'Customer Returns'. They may have one or 2 chips on the frame, that you would probably acquire within a few weeks, anyway, or they may have had other issues checked and rectified but they won't be getting sold, still with a problem existing because the seller doesn't want the hassle or negative feedback of another dissatisfied customer return on a website where sellers depend on positive feedback, like eBay and you usually find that the prices end at 3/4, or less, than the normal price, if it's an auction (and they usually are auctioned because the retailers don't want them lying around, taking up space, waiting for someone to buy them at a 'Buy It Now' price. They want them 'out of the door'.
Again: I was kicking myself over that last one because I found out about it, too late.
I can't disagree with that. Buy what you want and cry once. Buy cheap and buy twice.
Bought a RM Fusion 10 last fall. Very nice.
I really like the Fusion. Enjoy!
Good job. thx for that. You are Pro.
I have a Trek Marlin 7. Big step up from a Walmart bike, but quickly starts showing its shortcomings. Frame geometry and hard to upgrade are major downers.
You can out grow the Marlin but it will last long enough to be passed down to the next rider.
@@AdrenalineIsLife I've had my Trek Marlin since 2004 and am looking for my next bike. Now ready to step up the game and figure out what we can ride in the mountains in CO
@@codycarlson4327 So many great options these days!
Thanks for a great informative video. If possible can you do a video on hard tail MTB frames that won't break the bank. Stay blessed and safe.
Glad you enjoyed the video. 🙂
That's a great video idea. I'll add that to the list. Thanks!
Marin is my favorite which I just started getting into
Marin makes very good bikes for the money.
The LBS has a sale, so I picked up a Kona Fire Mountain for my wife for US$369. Told her it is a very good bike but she don’t seem to believe me 😅
Maybe it is because the original bike I gifted to her is a NOS 2011 Orbea Orca
with Campagnolo 10 speed Record group and Campagnolo Scirocco wheels. But she want a bike with baby seat mount so the Kona.
Lol. That's a solid deal. Bikes are selling for very low prices right now. Those are two very different bikes for very different purposes 😆
@markhuang4921 What? The lowest I'm seeing Kona bikes for locally is $650ish.....I thought that was tempting....I would've definitely jumped on it at $369. You got an awesome deal.
@@barfo281 The 80% discounted Scott bikes are older series, I think they are 11 speed. But still cheaper than comparable second hand ones.
@@AdrenalineIsLife Haha, yes. When I slim down my belly, I will probably buy a longer stem, wider handlebar and convert the Orbea for my own use 😅
Just got a Rangfinder at REI for $599 pre tax. Epic sale going on right now on them
That's an awesome deal!
Great video! Am hoping to pick up the xtrada 6 1x11 or the new H30 Orbea Laufey! Would you recommend the Laufey for the extra price? I think that the 140mm suspension is deffinitley a big plus over the Xtrada's 120
Thanks! Orbea makes a good bike and 140mm is a good all around travel for a variety of trails. The Laufey falls in the Hardcore hardtail category. I think there are better value bikes for the price in that category but its hard to deny the cool factor of Laufey.
Used in near mint condition gt agressor pro for $200 ,,, yha cant go wrong since they fit the best of all round catagory in budget friendly.
You can't go wrong with that deal! Enjoy!
I'm curious how the out going Giant Talon bikes stack up to these. I'm looking at the Talon 1 with it's 1x10 Shimano Deore drive train, hydraulic disk brakes, what seems like a decent fork (I'm kinda confused about that), Maxxis Rekon 2.4 inch tires, and pretty aggressive geometry on their 27.5s, and thinking it would be one of the better values on this list. - The Talon 2 even looks pretty good, though I believe the fork is pretty low spec. - Just wondering what your main criticisms of those bikes would be when compared against this list.
By outgoing. I assume you're talking about the 2021 models. The Talon1 you reference comes with a Rockshox Judy which is their most basic coil spring fork. The 2022 version comes with Giants own brand air fork which I've heard good things about. I don't believe the 2022 model was released at the time I made the video. It's a good value bike, which is Giant's forte. The 1x10 will be fine as long as you don't have a lot of long sustained climbs at your local trails. For XC riding it is plenty. Of course there is no substitute for fitness. I would prefer the 2022 over the 2021 because of the air fork. The Talon is definitely a contender in this category.
I just got my first real mountain bike a 2023 Gt avalanche sport it’s pretty nice I just wish it was a 1x not a 2x but other than that it’s a solid bike
Welcome to mountain biking! The Avalanche is a nice frame at a good price. Enjoy the bike, and don't worry about the 2x. You can always change it down the road.
Good luck finding these bikes..i think the best bikes are the bikes that are available, being a newbie i just bought a specialized rockhopper from a locaL shop thats 20 mins away from where I live..i would love to buy a polygon siskie after i gain experience with my skills..
Definitely. Good to buy what's available right now. These are 2022 models so we should hopefully be seeing them in stock soon.
Not to rub it in but I do love the Polygon T7. I mainly ride downhills and this bike has been a game changer for me.
@@dblevins343 thats gonna be my next bike..living in phoenix we dont have ang downhill trails out here..maybe a d6 would be ideal for a newbie like me
@@martiawesome 100% agree. If you don't plan on bombing downhills you don't really need the aggressive geo. I'd also consider the Giant Stance, Vitus Mythique, and the Marin... it's name has slipped my mind. All seem to be good value along with the Polygon D6. D7 might over kill
I don't know any of these bikes, the two I have been considering have been the Trek Marlin 7 and the Giant Talon 1 2022 models. I have a Motobecane Fantom Trail D/S I picked up from Marketplace, but for some reason I despise that thing! On level terrain including asphalt it's a chore to pedal, my strength training bike a Mongoose Vinson fat tire is actually a lot easier to pedal up to and maintain speed!? I've had the Fantom serviced at the shop with new cassette, chain, and full tune up, and it's still a chore to ride. It's pretty bad when I go to the local trails I grab my Mongoose ridged fat tire rather than my duel suspension Motobecane.
Some of these Suntour forks have warnings on them not to use it for trail riding and only use it for easy XC riding, is that true or they are just required to say that?
The bikes in the video are XC bikes and are perfectly fine for trail riding. The forks are designed for that type of riding. They don't want you doing any extreme downhill riding riding or freeride.
kross level 1..I have one and it's good for the price. racing geometry..
Are GT Avalanches any good for a beginner ? I found one for a steal at $450
The frame is very good. The parts may or may not be good depending on which version of the Avalanche you're looking at.
What do you consider a shorter ride or does it depend on the eighth of the person how tall or how short do you have to be to operate a small medium large or extra large frame for any of your bicycles that you are reviewing?
The bike company's sizing guides are a starting point. There are a lot of variables when it comes to bike sizing and everyone is proportioned differently. I look at the geometry relative to other bikes and bikes I've spent time on. Too small a bike will be very playful but you'll be twitchy and cramped at high speed. Too big a bike, you'll have stability but you'll have a high seated position and less control when moving over obstacles. For most people the sizing per the manufacturer is correct. Of course, there is no substitute for testing a bike before you buy.
The polygon xtrada 7 is currently on sale for 849 in the u.s.
Bikes Online has been offering some great deals lately. Thanks for the heads up!
the bike that i have now is a trek marlin 5 i bought it new for 750 it suits me and it is a good bike it isa a size small with 27.5 wheels
Would love a video like this for Road bikes.
I love to make one but I'm not as knowledgeable about road bikes.
@@AdrenalineIsLife well, i kinda Just wanna get into biking for my overall health and get to do a sport instead of sitting and playing video games all day when im not working.
@@SmogythoAwesome! Biking is the best way to stay fit. Road bikes are great for cardio. Mountain bikes are great for your core. They're a workout but you'll want to keep doing it because it's fun.
@@AdrenalineIsLife i currently have a Giant Escape that my that game me. I belive this is a Hybrid I really dont know lol
@@Smogytho Yep. It's a hybrid. If you're riding pavement a lot, it'll get you around no problem.
Whyte bikes the 800!and 900 series Hardtail models are bang on for the bucks
I like Whyte. Very nice value. I wish they were more available here in the USA.
Great video... I'm an 47 older noob... looking to get into mtb could you suggest a starting platform for an easy upgradable as skill increases... hardtail looks fun thou I'm not sure if a squishy might be a better option for me... thou budget is a problem under 1000$. Used could be an option... what is your suggestions... thanks for any help.
A good full squish is going to be difficult to find for less than $1k. All the bikes mentioned in the video are good starter bikes. The Xtrada 6 being the most modern and upgradeable.
Hello, I am new to mountain biking and I keep seeing the Co-Op Drt 1.1 pop up as recommended. What do you think about it?
The DRT 1.1 is a good starter bike if you're looking to get into mountain biking for as little money as possible. It's not as well equipped as the bikes in this video but it's also much cheaper. It's equipped with all brand name parts (albeit entry level parts) and you have the benefit local REI for service. If you're a co-op member you would typically get 10% dividend as well. Hope that helps.
The xtrada 7 is on sale for $999.00
I saw that! Great deal!
@@AdrenalineIsLife yes it is!! I could be wrong but i believe it is the one of the few $1000 bikes with a rear thru axle.
@@williamdixon1912 Thats correct. Boost rear thru axle.
Giant Talon 1, 29’er $980
ragley marley 2.0 might be a good addiion to this list.
Agreed. I love the Marley. Unfortunately, it was well above $1K at the time.
Of all the bikes you mentioned, which in your opinion would be the best for a beginner and also bedt value for the money. Looking to purchase a bike soon and saw the marin san quentin and is on my list.
All the bikes on the list are good beginner bikes. The San Quentin is a great choice that will grow with you. The Polygon Xtrada is also a great choice and is the best value from a spec to cost perspective IMHO..
Thank you!
If someone were to go with the marin san quentin, would you recommend just getting the 1 or just get the 2? Also, tbe liv tempt 1 was on my list. Could you te me your opinion on that one?
@@holliedekraai4137 The San Quentin 2 will be more capable long term and will be capable as you grow your skills. I'm not really familiar with the Liv. It a women's specific bike so sizing will favor female riders. It's more of a traditional cross country geometry. It will favor more tame terrain. From a value perspective it looks to be reasonably spec'd for the money. Hope that helps.
The xtrada 7, is this a more xc boke or trail?
Hi, I like the look of the San Quentin, what's it like when climbing, I'm 64 years old now and I'm not going to hang my boots up yet. my old GT mtb has seen better days, so looking to up grade, thanks.
The San Quentin is a great climber. Its not a cross country racer but its very comfortable on the climbs and can smash descents with authority.
@@AdrenalineIsLife Thanks for the reply and info,😀
The fuji nevada is below $1000. Fuji makes a great bike.
I used to have a Fuji road bike many years ago. Really liked it. I'll take a look at the Nevada. Thanks for sharing.
Local shop that sells Konas (Ascent Cycles Colo Springs CO) told me the Fire Mountain is NOT freewheel, that it's a cassette?
That's correct. There was a typo on Kona's website at the time. I emailed them about it. They confirmed it's a cassette and they corrected the typo.
I think the problem is we are saying a budget bike is 1000. I do not know whos budget you are looking for but having a decent size family justifying a 1k fir a bike is hard.
We are talking about capable mountain bikes for mountain biking. There are plenty of budget bikes out there that will be cheaper. That's not the scope of this video. Also, if you are talking about buying bikes for a family. I assume you are referring to children. Kids mountain bikes can be purchased for much less. You can find good brands for as little as $200.
On the Kona. Doesn’t Advent 9 speed speed only come in cassette
Yeah. I believe you're right. Might be a typo on their website. I contacted them for clarification.
Yep. It's a cassette per Kona.
I'm wanting to get into trail riding with my kids. We would be on rolling, hilly terrain - nothing too crazy - so I'm looking for an entry level bike that's comfortable but capable. I am 6'2", 215 lbs, 38 yrs old, reasonably fit, and my arms are the length of someone 2-3" taller than me (if that makes a difference). Currently, the Marin Bobcat 4 is on sale for $810 (shipping included); the Rocky Mtn Fusion 10 is on sale for $866 (shipping included). Would you recommend one over the other? I'm pretty new to this so any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!
Both good entry level choices. I own both Marin and Rocky Mountain bikes personally. Both make quality bikes. However, the edge goes to the Marin here. A little more travel, wider range gearing and the brakes are more common so a little easier to get serviced.
i really want the Marin San Quentin 1 but don’t like that the rear axle is QR. I want to buy the San Quentin 2, but don’t really like the colors. The metal color San Quentin 1 is soooo clean.
The silver does look very nice.
Thanks for sharing this. Is there actually a sub-$1k hardtail that has a thru-axle? None of these do.
My pleasure. The 2021 Polygon Xtrada 7 is on clearance for $919. Otherwise, I haven't seen any bikes with thru axle that retail for less than $1k
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@@AdrenalineIsLife thanks. I'm hoping thru-axles will trickle down to lower price points. But I guess with the worldwide supply chain issues, it will be a while before this will happen.
@@IsraelMagalit I think they will eventually trickle down once once the supply chain stabilizes
any advice on good mountain bike for traveling from state to state through trailers parks, rocky roads, hard to ride places, with trailer attach to it... looking to buy soon for long journey trip any advice Dear brethrens under $600
You'll need something with a lot of accessory mounts. Beefy 29 in tires or 27.5 plus tires. For under $600 you will not find a new bike like that. You will have to search on the used market. Perhaps someone can chime in with some good suggestions.
Spend a little more and you’ll get a more capable bike. Salsa was mentioned in this video. That’s a capable bike to do what you want. That said, $600 will get you a bike from Dicks Sporting goods. You can check there if you have not already.
@@willienillie6337 actually did & it was worth it, Got me Gaint Talon 2 2022 this years model & wow amazing..... learning more about it.... reason I ask because people sale their bikes too.... & that would be price idea for off line buy or store buy... you know... still be good to inform us about good bikes....
Review treak Roscoe 6 2022 please
Are there any differences between a 2021 vs 22 San Quentin? Looked exactly the same to me
They are the same this year.
Hi my friend...
I'm Jim from Greece, and i need a new hardtail...and i saw youre suggestion about Marin quentin 1, so my guestion is Marin or Trek Roscue 6?
Hi Jim. I'd go for whichever has the better fork. I sold a trek x-caliber and bought a marin indian fire trail. Both make excellent frames so I'd just get the one with the better components.
Jim, the Roscoe has a more conservative geometry but is spec'd with slightly better components. The San Quentin is more aggressive geometry and costs slightly less here in the USA.
Sadly here in mexico these bikes are like 1.5x the price, for example the xtrada 7 is priced at $1450usd
That's too bad. Bikes should be affordable to everyone.
I am torn between 27.5 qnd 29 I am an older rider who has been riding MTBs over 30 years. I am about 5 9.5 in height
It depends on your riding style. In a nutshell, If you like to throw the bike around, 27.5 is a better choice. If you tend to plow through the trail or you log long miles and want to smooth out the trail, a 29er is going to be the best option.
Hey im looking to get into trail riding with my wife and im stuck right now between the trek marlin 6 or the salsa rangefinder advent/deore. Theyre both $750 at my local stores. Any insight would be awesome!
The Rangefinder hands down. If you are getting mountain biking, the rangefinder has 20mm more travel on the fork, which gives you an extra measure of forgiveness without feeling mushy. It also has a thru axle on the fork. The frame has boost spacing. It can also run 29in or 27.5+. It's a more versatile design, in my opinion, and a great starter bike. Especially at $750.
@@AdrenalineIsLife awesome! Just the answer I was looking for. Thank you!
@@skatRdie0 my pleasure. Enjoy!
Rocky Mountain Soul 10 or the Marin Bobcat Trail 4?? Which is the best on this list ?
Very similar, Both good frames and similar spec. I would recommend the one you can get the best price on.
@@AdrenalineIsLife Soul 10 is on sale right now for $729.
@@lambertj.2892 Thanks for sharing. I'm working on an updated guide for 2023. 🙏
Just getting into riding looking for a bike to ride to work and hit some trails I’m bigger guy 6’2 280 looking to spend under 1200 any recommendation greatly appreciate it
You should look for a bike that has an air fork instead of a coil fork. This will make it easier to setup the bike to your weight. Unfortunately at that price there aren't many options like that. Two that come to mind are the Canyon Stoic 2 and the Polygon Xtrada 7. Also both have boost frames which adds strength to the rear of the bike. Both fantastic values for the money.
Thinking ima go with the 7
Which one would you recommend for begginer
The Polygon Xtrada is hard to beat for a beginner. It's well equipped and has a good all around design that will be a good platform to learn on and will grow with you as your abilities progress.
What's up with the Motobacane chainstays? The drive side is higher. Is it ok or does it create a weak spot?
TBH. I have no idea. I'm not familiar with their bikes.
Hi I am 5’9’’ and weigh 189lb what size tires and frame you recommend?
Sizing will vary depending on the brand. Usually a 5'9 rider fits in a size medium but not always. Each brand will have a sizing guide on their website. As far as wheel size. That depends your riding style and the terrain you ride.
Unfortunately there's no perfect bike at this price point. The Xtrada 6 comes very close, but its 27.2mm saddle post doesn't leave much room for long travel dropper post upgrades.
Agreed. We can't expect too much at this level but fortunately they are becoming more capable than the cheap bikes of the past.
Literally no reason bike companies can't offer modern geometry with a tapered head tube and a threaded bottom bracket for under $1000.
How do this bikes compare to the marlins 6,I'm in the look out for a bike,we have seems the marlin 6,but wondering if theres any other bikes out there for around that price,ill be getting 2 bikes(partner and i) and a bike trailer
The Marlin was considered but didn't make this list. These bikes are a better value overall. The Marlin isn't a bad bike, but it's over-priced for what you get.
@@AdrenalineIsLife ohhh okay thanks,getting into bikes so its hard knowing,but appreciate the response,also would you know anything about bike trailers for 2 kids?
@Francisco Ayon unfortunately I have little experience with bike trailers. I would recommend checking out the website "two wheeling tots" they are a great resource on the subject of cycling with kids.
@@AdrenalineIsLife thanks,appreciate it,any tips for good suspension seatpost for around 100
What about the giant talon 1?
no vitus?like the nucleus vrs?its under $1000 with maybe better components as these bikes?
They haven't released the 2022 models yet.
Adrenaline Is Life ohhhh..these are all 22 models?
@@davao0506 Correct. We don't know what the spec or pricing for Vitus will be yet. I'll address them in a later video.
Adrenaline Is Life yes cuz the 21 its like $899..nucleus vrs
@@davao0506 hopefully the keep the price the same.
Would it have killed you to put the prices up a little longer?
Yes.It would have😛 Thanks for the feedback. I'll keep it in mind for the next one.
I cant help to think 1x drive bikes having that long derailleur and getting it knocked off on trails.I prefer 3x at front or 2x to keep derailleur short in the back
1x are very common these days and it hasn't been a problem.
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How about the Trek X Caliber 8 or 9?
They are priced well above $1000. They are pure cross country bikes. Good bikes but average value.
I am looking for information on 18 Speed North Country ATB1000 Mountain bikes main interest is price.Reason for the enquire, I was given two of these bikes, one male one female to put in our Knight's of Columbus fund raising sale. Both bikes are like new I would like some help as to what to ask for them. I live on Cape Breton Island Nova Scotia .ca
Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with that brand. From what I can find they are a big box store brand from a store called Eatons. Typically those bikes are low spec and typically don't command much. Listings for North Country bikes (not that model) seem to be going for $100 to $200 CAD. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Kona doesnt have a freewheel. Kona doesnt use them at all. It is a normal advent cassette
They listed as a freewheel at the time of the video. It was a typo on their sight. They changed it after I brought it to their attention.
This guy's good...
Can someone help me which bike should I get the Marlin 6 gen 2 or the rocky mountain fusion 10? btw Im beginner thankx
The Fusion is a better value for the money. The Marlin is getting outdated.
can you do a video on mountain bikes under $100?
KevCentral frequently reviews bikes in that price range. I don't know enough about those bikes.
Is there a way to talk to you about my bike? I am italian, i am 15 years old and i found your channel 1 month ago. I ride since i was 11, i broke a bmx, a walmart bike and now i ride a 100 € very old bike. I wheelie for the most of the time but i ran in some issues and i dont know what to do. Since i am a teenager i dont have money to buy my dream bike but i have small savings that i want to use for fixing these issues: V type rim brakes are not working. I fall over 6 times a day because they fail on me. I fixed them 5 times, still not working properly. My deraillur gets stuck and my brake is very very old. Plastic pedals failed on me and broke. My fork broke and doest work anymore. I have the rotating deraillur and a dirt cheap brake - brake lever. My handlebar is hurting my figers and is very small. I can send you a photo of the bike if you are willing to help to suggest pieces to change. I am contacting you because i ve seen some cheap builds and mabye you can help me since i cannot afford a new bike. thanks if you will respond, sorry for my bad english.
Send me an email or contact me on Instagram. Links are on the channel page.
@@AdrenalineIsLife okay
what size bike should i buy at 5' 8 guy?
For someone your height a size medium will work.
@@AdrenalineIsLife thanks
since i got your attention would this be a good trail bike or what else can i look at for around 1200 USD?
@@franklucas1715 which bike are you referring too?
@@AdrenalineIsLife Ive been looking at the Marin and the Trek Marling 8
Are treks not good?
They are fine. You just have to pay more for a similar spec bike.
Could someone recommend me a 27,5 mtb till 800€ max. but with a 3 by drivetrain?
Polygon Cascade
@@AdrenalineIsLife thank you for the answer! 🙂
What you think of the serious shoreline 27,5 for 590€ ?
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Also wich is a better fork a: ,,SF16-XCT-HLO-DS" or a ,,SF19 XCE28 DS"
? 🤔
@@loveistheanswer5924 I'm not familiar with the brand.
@@loveistheanswer5924 Xct is typically a step up from Xce.
There is a better option for $950 vitus senienter
The Seniter is a great value but it wasn't available at the time the video was made.
There's not s bike under a thousand that I would own I think 1500 is about the price point for a sufficient entry level hardtail
There are lots of people out there that are doing just fine with sub $1000 bikes. Depends on the brand and specs. $1500 with some brands will get you similar spec as some of these sub $1000 bikes.
@@AdrenalineIsLife i didn't mean that to sound like a bike snob just the fact that bike prices have skyrocketed and half the time you don't get the same spec you think you ordered. That's why I went 2nd hand. Marketplace is flooded with people selling brand new bikes they bought during the pandemic they hardly rode
@@brandonwalker6781 prices definitely have gone up quite a bit. Definitely a good time to find a deal on the used market. We'll start seeing new bikes with better spec for better prices down the road. I think demand for bikes is dropping off back to normal levels.
I’ve never seen 120 mm of travel out of my suntour xcr… it tops out around 70… this fork is straight garbage
You should ideally be using about 7/8 of the total travel. If you're only getting 70mm of travel, you may not be heavy enough or there is something wrong with the fork. I suggest contacting Suntour. Entry level coil forks aren't always going to work optimal if the rider is too heavy or too light weight.
Coil forks no thanks
$1000+/- no air fork, no thru axle? Really limits build ability.
Being budget bikes, the majority of people buying them are typically not looking to do major upgrades.
The Salsa Rangefinder now has thru axle-front , air suspension and hydraulic brakes.
You have to be crazy to spend a thousand on a mountain bike, or have more money than brains. What the bastards want $1000 for sold for $150 a year ago.