I tried to keep this video relatively concise since I've made videos on most of these games already. Hopefully this works as a supplement to those videos while encapsulating how I feel about these titles overall.
There is a mod for Final Fantasy VI called Brave New World that does exactly what you described. It restricts Espers to certain characters so that homogenization of abilities becomes impossible and it creates a very robust system of characters with their own uniqueness. 10/10, I absolutely recommend it.
Hell yeah. I’m excited to watch. This year so far I played through every numbered non MMO FF except for 8, 12, and 13 (I got burnt out after finishing 10). My tiers would go like this so far S: 6, 10 A: 15, 7, 16, 9, 5 B: 4 C: 3, 2, 1 I would say I’ve found that even the games I don’t really enjoy I do absolutely respect
My personal list: S tier- 6 and technically 8 as I can go back and replay it anytime even if it's more A tier A Tier: 2 (I love this game. Minimal grinding needed and I love the story but it does have issues), 5, 9 B tier: 1, 3, 7 (frankly a game that while not bad just didn't vibe with me much and failed to live up to the hype. Still good tho) C tier: 4 ( not a bad game game per se but way too often I get bored and like 7 I don't jive with a lot of it. But is has a lot of good highs!) Also adding 10 to C tier if not D tier for almost making me dislike it.
Having FF2 in A tier is goated. That game is wildly and unfairly panned by uncritical reviewers who know it's safe and inoffensive to the fandom to rank it lowest; not to mention that people hadn't played it until years after FFX released so they judge it with bias; and that many unjustly criticize it because *they* try and fail to exploit its combat when it's designed against someone doing that and so they literally shouldn't and don't have to. Of all games, FF2 is the only game to get criticized for gamers stumbling to take the fun out of it - well, that and FF8. I swear some people who play FF are not interested in RPGs and only like to toxify/troll chat.
@@RashidMBey This comment perpetuates far more toxicity than the people you're pointing fingers at btw. If you're trying to convince people to give FF2 more of a chance this isn't the way to do it.
@@CobraCodex My point in that comment wasn't to convince others online. Seldom ever will folks feel convinced to spend dozens of hours playing an 80s game with such a poor reputation in their community from a random reply in a barely visible comment. The point in that comment was to show solidarity in someone's rare choice that generally catches a lot of disfavor and preemptively defend the legitimacy of OP's choice in ranking II so highly. My comment focused on addressing and defanging a lot of bad faith criticisms and its bandwagon effect that unfairly compromised its reception in the West. It was to neither offend your ranking or another's, but to defend someone's minority view that differed heavily from the common FF ranking bell curve and cover simply causes for the reception. Honestly, I apologize if my candid communication style offends or repulses - not my intent. How would you recommend preempting fandom backlash that regularly discounts minority views unfairly, especially in regards to FFII and FFVIII, while legitimizing and showing solidarity with OP's minority view who might have received backlash if they openly expressed it before? That's an honest question. I know reading tone feels impossibly hopeless online, but people often tell me that I talk and write like a robot, so I default to speaking frankly - I come in good faith, even if my candor is off-puttingly direct, and I genuinely meant no offense. I sincerely seek an example of how to alternatively reach those goals of solidarity and defense and legitimacy. I just wanted to show solidarity and brace/preempt the dogpiling that I and others experienced for expressing a minority view, no matter how well-researched.
@RashidMBey No worries dude, from a distance your original comment seemed vitriolic for the sake of it which is what prompted me to reply moreso than the actual sentiment. You seem more level headed than I first thought so I'll respond in kind. Regarding your question about preempting fandom backlash, I would say don't bother. People who angrily target others about their opinion without intent for genuine discussion are likely not worth engaging with in the first place. As you said though it's hard to gauge intent via text which is why I think approaching with some level of curiosity and empathy is better than basically insulting the opposing party, especially prior to any actual backlash towards the original unpopular opinion.
I try to be stringent when it comes to placing S tiers on my lists. 7 and 8 didn't resonate with me to the same degree as 6 and 9 so I placed them lower. Curious what the rest of your list looks like.
not a FF fan but if i were this lines up pretty much with how i would rank them aside from 7 being lower since i'm more of a gameplay person and the combat really does not engage me enough to see me through disc 1
I tried to keep this video relatively concise since I've made videos on most of these games already. Hopefully this works as a supplement to those videos while encapsulating how I feel about these titles overall.
There is a mod for Final Fantasy VI called Brave New World that does exactly what you described.
It restricts Espers to certain characters so that homogenization of abilities becomes impossible and it creates a very robust system of characters with their own uniqueness.
10/10, I absolutely recommend it.
Sounds cool, may have to check it out at some point!
9 being in S tier makes me happy. My personal favorite game from childhood that still holds up for me today.
Good perspectives! Just found your channel and subbed!
Thank you, glad you enjoyed!
I'm happy that 6 and 9 are in S tier.
My favorite Final Fantasy is 4. It opened so many doors for the series. For me I would put 4 and 6 in S tier.
Hell yeah. I’m excited to watch. This year so far I played through every numbered non MMO FF except for 8, 12, and 13 (I got burnt out after finishing 10). My tiers would go like this so far
S: 6, 10
A: 15, 7, 16, 9, 5
B: 4
C: 3, 2, 1
I would say I’ve found that even the games I don’t really enjoy I do absolutely respect
Nice list Tommy! I agree that even the games in this series that I enjoyed the least still felt worth experiencing to see how the series progressed.
I see 6 and 9 on S tier, I drop a thumbs up. Simple as
My personal list: S tier- 6 and technically 8 as I can go back and replay it anytime even if it's more A tier
A Tier: 2 (I love this game. Minimal grinding needed and I love the story but it does have issues), 5, 9
B tier: 1, 3, 7 (frankly a game that while not bad just didn't vibe with me much and failed to live up to the hype. Still good tho)
C tier: 4 ( not a bad game game per se but way too often I get bored and like 7 I don't jive with a lot of it. But is has a lot of good highs!)
Also adding 10 to C tier if not D tier for almost making me dislike it.
Having FF2 in A tier is goated. That game is wildly and unfairly panned by uncritical reviewers who know it's safe and inoffensive to the fandom to rank it lowest; not to mention that people hadn't played it until years after FFX released so they judge it with bias; and that many unjustly criticize it because *they* try and fail to exploit its combat when it's designed against someone doing that and so they literally shouldn't and don't have to. Of all games, FF2 is the only game to get criticized for gamers stumbling to take the fun out of it - well, that and FF8. I swear some people who play FF are not interested in RPGs and only like to toxify/troll chat.
@@RashidMBey This comment perpetuates far more toxicity than the people you're pointing fingers at btw. If you're trying to convince people to give FF2 more of a chance this isn't the way to do it.
Cool list! It's always fun seeing other peoples perspectives, especially when they differ from mine.
@@CobraCodex My point in that comment wasn't to convince others online. Seldom ever will folks feel convinced to spend dozens of hours playing an 80s game with such a poor reputation in their community from a random reply in a barely visible comment.
The point in that comment was to show solidarity in someone's rare choice that generally catches a lot of disfavor and preemptively defend the legitimacy of OP's choice in ranking II so highly. My comment focused on addressing and defanging a lot of bad faith criticisms and its bandwagon effect that unfairly compromised its reception in the West. It was to neither offend your ranking or another's, but to defend someone's minority view that differed heavily from the common FF ranking bell curve and cover simply causes for the reception.
Honestly, I apologize if my candid communication style offends or repulses - not my intent. How would you recommend preempting fandom backlash that regularly discounts minority views unfairly, especially in regards to FFII and FFVIII, while legitimizing and showing solidarity with OP's minority view who might have received backlash if they openly expressed it before? That's an honest question. I know reading tone feels impossibly hopeless online, but people often tell me that I talk and write like a robot, so I default to speaking frankly - I come in good faith, even if my candor is off-puttingly direct, and I genuinely meant no offense. I sincerely seek an example of how to alternatively reach those goals of solidarity and defense and legitimacy. I just wanted to show solidarity and brace/preempt the dogpiling that I and others experienced for expressing a minority view, no matter how well-researched.
@RashidMBey No worries dude, from a distance your original comment seemed vitriolic for the sake of it which is what prompted me to reply moreso than the actual sentiment. You seem more level headed than I first thought so I'll respond in kind.
Regarding your question about preempting fandom backlash, I would say don't bother. People who angrily target others about their opinion without intent for genuine discussion are likely not worth engaging with in the first place.
As you said though it's hard to gauge intent via text which is why I think approaching with some level of curiosity and empathy is better than basically insulting the opposing party, especially prior to any actual backlash towards the original unpopular opinion.
6, 7, 8, 9 and X are S tiers. I can't believe you put 8 in B
I can. The junction system really mucked things up.
I try to be stringent when it comes to placing S tiers on my lists. 7 and 8 didn't resonate with me to the same degree as 6 and 9 so I placed them lower. Curious what the rest of your list looks like.
8 at B feels right to me. It’s a great game, but I felt it really felt short in a lot of different areas.
not a FF fan but if i were this lines up pretty much with how i would rank them aside from 7 being lower since i'm more of a gameplay person and the combat really does not engage me enough to see me through disc 1
That's fair, I think the SNES games are the sweet spot for combat as far as this list is concerned at least.