Not to be mean, I think you need a board with more volume at this point. Maybe a longboard. You need to learn how to slide, feel the wave and position yourself before trying to make turns. I was skeptical about Surf Lake, but now I find it very cool. I first thought the amplitude should decrease like an inverse square law but it might just be like an inverse, because the energy is conserved in a plane not a volume. The hydraulic system is a bit odd to me, a giant electric motor would be much more efficient. Big problem with compressing air is...air is compressible, so you lose tons of energy heating it.
The wave pool has helped with the sliding thankfully. Alot of these clips were taken in my first few months of starting to turn on a shortboard (had been longboard previously) Without doing the calcs for an electric motor, my main concern with something that big would be the amount of torque you need to drive the CWD up and therefore kW rating of a motor might no be feasible when considering electrical feeding. Not saying it's impossible, but it seems the combined pneumatic and hydraulic system helps to provide smooth and precise control over the plunger, especially given the nature of hydraulics.
Wavegarden have done their own analysis on this. "Energy efficiency comparison of Wavegarden Cove technology vs. pneumatic technology" is the search term and you can download the full PDF. Highly recommended read.
@rosscosan6647 That's awesome Ross. The beauty about these parks is that they offer such flexibility in the waves that can be surfed and in such a controlled environment.
Dude, ditch the short board for now and get yourself a longboard. You’ll learn how to flow with the wave and trim. It will make you a much better surfer.
@@EngineeringDads I’m just saying that you shouldn’t turn for the sake of turning and especially if your turn doesn’t generate speed. We turn to generate power and flow. For example, a bottom turn requires you to coil your legs and spring them which translates to the board in speed. It takes a lot of time because to surf well with a sense of style is really the hardest “sport” there is.
@@EngineeringDads Much respect. Your style seems to focus on making small little turns like youre trying too hard to rip it up. Instead focus on digging the rail into the optimum place of the wave to pick up the most speed. You will feel it accelerate. once you get too far in front, cutback. If you are not far out front, hop the board higher up the wave and look for that sweet spot again. repeat. you need speed bruh. Peace!
@stevefink6000 Wow! Really appreciate the advice Steve. I must say in my short time surfing the level on help provided by the surf community is truly inspiring. Thank you and will try and implement these in the next session.
This video is such a good excuse to travel and play in these wave pools 😆love to see them though.
The best excuse
Not to be mean, I think you need a board with more volume at this point. Maybe a longboard. You need to learn how to slide, feel the wave and position yourself before trying to make turns.
I was skeptical about Surf Lake, but now I find it very cool. I first thought the amplitude should decrease like an inverse square law but it might just be like an inverse, because the energy is conserved in a plane not a volume. The hydraulic system is a bit odd to me, a giant electric motor would be much more efficient. Big problem with compressing air is...air is compressible, so you lose tons of energy heating it.
The wave pool has helped with the sliding thankfully. Alot of these clips were taken in my first few months of starting to turn on a shortboard (had been longboard previously)
Without doing the calcs for an electric motor, my main concern with something that big would be the amount of torque you need to drive the CWD up and therefore kW rating of a motor might no be feasible when considering electrical feeding. Not saying it's impossible, but it seems the combined pneumatic and hydraulic system helps to provide smooth and precise control over the plunger, especially given the nature of hydraulics.
We need one in central California let’s go!!
Amazing, I learnt so much watching this video !!!!
Appreciate you!
very cool and researched video. was wondering energy consumption/cost per wave of different pool, cost of building each type.
Wavegarden have done their own analysis on this. "Energy efficiency comparison of Wavegarden Cove technology vs. pneumatic technology" is the search term and you can download the full PDF. Highly recommended read.
Wow! I’m 70 and grew up surfing from a young guy to about my mid 40s and would love to be able to surf at one of thesecwave parks.. Brilliant idea ! 👌
@rosscosan6647 That's awesome Ross. The beauty about these parks is that they offer such flexibility in the waves that can be surfed and in such a controlled environment.
Cool video my dude.
Great video
Appreciate it!
Great video!
Check out Revel surf park, Cannon Beach in Mesa, Arizona. Its on Power Rd. I'm in line now....
Dude, ditch the short board for now and get yourself a longboard. You’ll learn how to flow with the wave and trim. It will make you a much better surfer.
It's a 6'8 with 48L of volume. I use longer boards sometimes.
@@EngineeringDads I’m just saying that you shouldn’t turn for the sake of turning and especially if your turn doesn’t generate speed. We turn to generate power and flow. For example, a bottom turn requires you to coil your legs and spring them which translates to the board in speed. It takes a lot of time because to surf well with a sense of style is really the hardest “sport” there is.
May want to try bodyboarding.
Tried it
@@EngineeringDads Much respect. Your style seems to focus on making small little turns like youre trying too hard to rip it up. Instead focus on digging the rail into the optimum place of the wave to pick up the most speed. You will feel it accelerate. once you get too far in front, cutback. If you are not far out front, hop the board higher up the wave and look for that sweet spot again. repeat. you need speed bruh. Peace!
@stevefink6000 Wow! Really appreciate the advice Steve. I must say in my short time surfing the level on help provided by the surf community is truly inspiring. Thank you and will try and implement these in the next session.
Surf Lakes is easily the most superior
We can't wait to give it a crack in the future
that slab looks sick😎🤙🏾
slaters wave is so much better than these knee high dribblers.
It's a dream to be able to afford it
Yeah but only one wave at a time.
I think we’re getting one in Squamish BC🤞🤞
I believe there is on in Squamish and Vancouver island in planning/design