my husband is so vigilant as well. he watches me when im not paying attention. we were at target, i was looking at things in the medicine isle and i went to ask him a question, i didnt see him right away so im doing the i just lost my spouse spin, and i spot him out of everyones way, staring at me, half watching me paniic, but watching everything around me closely. im not someone who will be oogled at or catcalled, so knowing hes still is vigilantly watching over me makes me feel safe.
This is the sort of integrity and conversation Blake Lively should have displayed in public after her movie recently. Very impressed with Saoirse Ronan.
It’s her Irish upbringing, integrity played a very important role throughout our history, and saw our people through very difficult times, so it has become part of our DNA, either that or her mammy used the wooden spoon if she was dishonest when growing up, the wooden spoon has magical powers of persuasion in Ireland and particularly when in the hands of a capable mammy!
@@thefeckineejit264Integrity played a very important role when the Irish were colonizing other nations. Don't pretend like you're anything better than the British Empire. You lot were enjoying it
Paul's comment was pretty obtuse because 1) that was the very point Eddie was trying to make: most people don't think to use their phone in times of danger but that was the advice Eddie was given, to think outside the box, outside the norm to get into that character's headspace. And then 2) it's as though he's never spoken to a woman before. It's fairly common knowledge that women are advised to use whatever they have on their person as potential self-defense tools. Women often have their keys between their knuckles when they're walking alone at night and I recall learning that trick as early as elementary school. His active listening skill needs improvement.
It was a joke. I’m a woman with these real concerns. But he didn’t mean any harm. She kindly educated him and he got it right away so there is no need to vilify him as some people are doing.
@@wilhelmina8843 I wouldn't say he's being vilified, no one is saying he's a terrible and evil person. It's more so bringing attention to the ignorance of men to the point where they would even make such jokes. It's a much larger conversation than Paul but he just so happened to have missed the point entirely in this situation and further prove how in 2024, men seem to lack awareness when it comes to the disparity between the male and female experience in society. A person can be obtuse and ignorant without being a villain, but I'm certain he won't make these kinds of jokes again after this experience.
He and Saoirse are friends and she said in a separate interview that they have even had these kind of conversations before. I think he was trying to make a joke and didn't really think it through. It's not that he doesn't understand or never thought about it before. We all put our foot in our mouth sometimes, he just happened to do it on TV for the world to judge him for it. I think Saoirse had an excellent response, it was a gentle reminder to him and anyone watching that it's not actually something to joke about. You can see his embarrassment almost immediately, he knew exactly where he went wrong as soon as she spoke up.
The conversations need to shift from focusing on women figuring out how to keep ourselves safe, to how do men needing to figure out how they stand with us, and shift from a culture of women-as-objects to women as valued human beings.
statistically men get attacked more when walking on the street than women, the risks differ, doesnt mean men are safe and happily walking out at night wuithout fear
This resonates for yesterday, today, tomorrow we women need to be savvy/astute about our surroundings and the people that are around us even the ones we don't realize or watching us, and tactical in a pinch.
there was no "reality" though. She just killed the mood by furthering the feminist gaslighting of women. A majority of violent crime is actually committed against men, including 78% of homicides. Women are significantly safer in the west than men are. This is a classic example of repeating a lie so often it gets confused with truth.
@@Fancy-p7z I explained why men seem unaware and careless about this subject. People always believe they're eyes more than anything else. So I don't think I missed anything. I never said what she said was wrong. So what is the point exactly ? And more specifically what exactly do women want non-violent men to do about this ? Cause there isn't a lot we can do.
@@maxpayne232 “you” don’t have to do anything. Just don’t pretend that a woman’s concerns for her own safety because of her inherent size and nature isn’t on her mind constantly.
It’s how ridiculous the men think that is and how ineffective it would actually be, yet for women that’s all we’ve got. Our only hope is something men find the idea of completely ludicrous.
Some years ago in the TV series Silent Witness a female character was talking about attacks on women and made the comment, rightly, that a man's strength is a weapon. So women live in a world that is weaponised but they are unarmed. At one point I lived in a rough area in London and walking from the tube station to home I walked along the middle of the road (cul de sac so no traffic danger) with my keys in my hand. I am six feet tall, have played contact sports such as rugby and American football and have learnt quite a few self defence tricks so I figure I would not be a pushover but I was still wary. It is tragic that women have to live with that fear 24/7 and it is our responsibility as men to change that. Man up guys. It's on us.
@@TB-tp5gkIndeed. It is kind of disgusting that people get stuck in these thought patterns. I am pro 2A for all people, but something tells me this henhouse doesn’t look kindly on that means of self-defense.
Newsflash....Men think about this while walking alone too! Contrary to the propaganda, 80% of all violent crime r against men. 80% of robbery, 54% of men killed don't even know their attacker(13% for women). Many men just except it's a HUMAN problem and not gendered at all.The men who won't admit the fear of walking alone at night is generally due to being shamed or ridiculed for admitting that from men and women, but primarily women.
Because some people can't or don't want to believe that this is something we have to think about pretty much all the time when we're out, no matter what time of day it is.
Because there is always the one clueless dude going “it’s the same for women and men,” etc. No, it isn’t. I get so tired of explaining that. Women get attacked, harrassed, etc way more often.
@@NicoleAZ145 A majority of violent crime is committed against men, including an overwhelming majority of homicides. The notion that women are disproportionally unsafe is, quite literally, feminist propaganda. Women are not statistically less safe (at least in Western countries), you have just been gaslit into thinking they are.
That’s a strange statement because men also have to be vigilant because of men. Male criminals looking to do something violent represent a significantly small proportion of men. So the majority of men also have to be vigilant. In my country, 2 men for every 1 woman is a victim of a violent crime.
It IS a thing GUYS should have to think about, many small actions and thoughts men have incorporated are the base for these tragic events. They should start to think about deconstructing that with their male friends. Not just come up with "It's nOT aLl mEn"
Ever older brother, who has a sister has already thought and gone thru all these scenarios. And I've always been at the ready to step in to defend anyone when required. I've been called every single thing under the sun by many woman who don't know me or what I would be willing to do to keep them safe. I know there are many like me that feel and do the same, regardless of norms, what we are tolled or how we are treated. The current times make me so sad, cause there are so many good men that protect you, they are your fathers, brothers and friends and we do this while being called predators, dangerous and not right.
Well it isn’t all men. And a significant majority of men won’t be deconstructing anything with their friends because most men don’t have pigs as friends. Crime statistics show this. I think people need to make their mind up. Do they want men as protectors? Or are people today still going to say any man that displays chivalry is sexist? The latter way of using identity politics has become too common amongst groups these days and is in fact driving a wedge between men and women.
That’s the irony, though - thinking “all men are trash” or “all men are potentially violent” leads to women’s hypervigilance, because they truly believe any man could harm them. Most men are regular, many are idiots. A few are horrible people like the officer (a COP, of all people) in the case mentioned. And the saddest part of that is that the men who would do that won’t be swayed by speeches or lectures about things most men already know. The irony is that the numbers are probably the same for the reverse as well (women-on-men violence), but men almost never talk about it, so those numbers are super skewed.
@@Smeginator While women-on-men violence is definitely a thing, I don’t know if the evidence supports the claim that it would be the same as men-on-women violence. Just look at the population of men that are caught committing a crime vs. women, or how many men are in jail compared to women. However, the statistics do show that victims of violence are about 2 men for every 1 woman. So while women may “feel” they need to be vigilant, the reality is men should be the ones that need to be more vigilant.
@@Roach22 absolutely. Most violent crimes are, yes, committed by men, but very often are also perpetrated upon men as well. And in regards to the evidence not supporting it, that plays right into my statement about skewed numbers. Men rarely discuss it, and when they do, they are often not taken seriously (by police, by friends, by far too many people), so they end up keeping to themselves, doing more harm to themselves, and sometimes to others, when they finally lash out from frustration. Having said all this, this should NOT take away from the women who also experience this. This is something that men and women could (and should) be standing side by side to fight against.
I am Spanish and I always thought that because we had a dictator who isolated us from the rest of the world we were really behind. I imagined the rest of European males had been brought up in an equal to women education, but not really or at least they are not any better. I hope next generation will change that
Don't worry, it's all just optics. We pretend like we're more progressive than we actually are because true progressiveness is different and scary and a lot of those men who are the source of these problems don't want to lose that sense of control.
Wait, spain is a misogynistic country? That's really interesting because in México we are constantly hearing in the news about how you guys are so progressive and feminist
@@simonl5074 Results seem to indicate that they all need to make a practice of that more often, and then perhaps they will open themselves up to more opportunities to learn.
It’s not like they were foretelling what she was going to say, they were just riffing off each other, and once she dropped the truth bomb they all listened. Don’t try to make it seem like they didn’t WANT to hear it
She’s so real for that! I run every day 🏃♀️ and one of my normal routine thoughts like I had today is that I can use my phone as a weapon if something goes wrong on this street. It’s a normal part of being a girl 🙏🏽
I encountered this travelling with my partner. There were some areas I just wouldn't go to because I got the wrong vibe and he didn't get it. Like, I'm always looking for exits and subconsciously planning how to get out if needed. This is from experience and self-defense classes.
Yes. That's why when I travel (for tourism) alone, I always look up that place's safety re: solo female travellers. Your story abt your partner reminded me of the r*pe & robbery case to a Brazilian/ Spanish couple who were travelling in India. The Brazilian lady was gang graped, the Spanish guy was tied up & punched. Prior to that, the girl was already uneasy abt the place, as seen from their vid. But the guy still insisted that they return to the place & camp there. It's the case of "Vicente & Fernanda, India" if anyone's interested. The couple have a YT channel but the case was also covered by many Indian RUclipsrs. As women, we have a 6th sense but sometimes the men don't listen.
same here with my mom.. she is from the third world and will go anywhere and isn't afraid like the typical neurotic anglo.. has nothing to do with gender
@@kitty_s23456 that brazilian girl comes from 100x worse city than that dude, again it has nothing to do with gender.. she just knows how to fend through poverty stricken areas better in which the spanish guy is oblivious too
@@kitty_s23456That’s awful. And it tells me that I’d better stick to my instincts if my husband wants to go somewhere I feel unsure about. Ladies, put your foot down! We do have a sixth sense and they need to listen to us.
So riiiight. ALL THE TIME(when alone or with a person who couldn't defend you...even with a guy..only some.) At least she really deserves this nice response and attention.some people, I don't know, their words create a big thing...and for ,like, nothing.But HERE..omg thank you lady
The way they went quiet after she said that because they can't exactly relate to it and didn't think that it's exactly true until the audience started applauding
They can't relate because they haven't been gaslit for 30 years. A majority of the victims of violent crime in the West are men, including 78% of homicides. The only truth is that people care about violence against women more, even though it happens less often. The fear women fear is not a result of the actual likelihood, but rather the fact that they are constantly told how unsafe they are despite the fact that they are statistically safer than men in the West.
I mean they were really out of touch. Coming back home at night and we always think about that. I take the train relatively late in the evening and I see al sort of people that could become a problem and in my head it's all 'maybe I can make fake call, maybe I should walk on the other side of the road or change the carriage, let's not look at them in the eyes, hold you keys, wear comfortable shoes in case you need to run, don't wear jewellery (I even stopped wearing by engagement ring)'...
Literally walking further out of your way so you don't have to get close to them, but not crossing in an obvious attempt to avoid them because it might set them off, walking into businesses (if they're open) pretending you need to be there to avoid them and have more witnesses if need be. It's endless the things we need to do to stay safe.
@@SamanthaDianeExactly. I have walked out of elevators right after walking in when it’s just me and a sketchy looking guy in there and no one else. I say “oh, forgot my coat” or something and jump out at the last minute. It might be paranoia, but then again it might not. Anything to stay safe.
You know with this and all the "your body, my choice" bs going on it's heartbreaking to see how little men think of us or about us. And extremely male privileged it is to be able to just go where you want to go and do what you want to do alone at anytime of day.
@@PanosSchmitAlmeira Obviously not every man and I agree there are a lot of men who support women. But, we can't deny the election results showed that many men don't. It was just very disappointing to see.
@@elisarodriguez9859You did not owe a response to the previous comment. That comment was purposely obtuse unless the poster actually assumed that you meant every single, solitary, individual boy and man in the whole wide world (in which case they should frequent parts of the internet that aren’t their usual haunts).
I always forget that half the population doesn't live like this on a day-to-day basis until the topic comes up. I'd like to think it's just called being aware of your surroundings, but I guess they just aren't aware in that sense. What's funny is I can't even say I consciously think about it; it's so ingrained in my being that it just happens intuitively.
@@Orlagh Gender doesn't really matter in the end if you are victimized. The media drives unnecessary fear narratives, because they focus heavily on male on female violence and largely ignores male victims. And the risk is very low to begin with.
Now's the time to band together ladies. If you see someone in danger, be loud and call them out. If you see others trying to defend, join in - there is safety in numbers. Overwhelm and overcome. Do not allow them to divide and conquer. Stay Safe, but Stay Active. And thank the good fellas out there who are our allies. We need the "Good Guys & Momma Bears"!!!
It’s true, women have to think about it our whole lives. I’ve always been wary of dark parking lots, elevators when there’s just a man and me in, and sometimes I won’t go in if I get a weird vibe. Women just have our defenses up all the time because our lives depend on it.
Very true. Most men won't just pick up and kill someone but they are stronger, naturally more aggressive for the most part. Women have to be on guard all the time. I mean you don't have too and the odds are you'll be ok, but it's good to be prepared. I used to walk around at night and early morning all the time because I didn't have a car. I carried mace and my phone and I saw some scary looking people out there but none ever bothered me. Yeah, just be prepared though and don't do stuff that is obviously unsafe. But we shouldn't live out lives in fear either.
In the UK we have advised some women if they use a shoulder bag to keep a tin can of beans or soup in it so they can swing it at a potential attacker. Also if they wear high heels to stamp the heel into the top of an attacker's foot if they try to grab them from behind.
Ashling Murphy in Ireland and Sarah Everard in England and sadly nothing has changed. I'm glad Saoirse made this comment to highlight the reality of mothers, sisters, wives, girlfriends everywhere. I think a lot of men are understanding it now but our leaders still seem oblivious.
The fact all four guys were still completely oblivious to that fact too. We’re raised differently because we have a different reality. Can you imagine being that care free?
Saorise is actually right!!! She had every right to say this. The Misogyny and Sexism to women in 2024 is absolutely disgusting these comments need to come back.
Thankfulness to this platform that has put a light to so many young woman getting violated upon or murdered. She referenced a 2021 case that got solved and the criminal is incarcerated. I am currently following a murder case in Canada, the mother from Africa has flown to Canada to claim her daughter’s body, and the last I heard is that she was planning to take her daughter home to be buried. As African origin, we all got to the assumption, “Nothing will be done once the that precious soul and body is taken away, no one will be held accountable for this lost just because of Identity ”…I say this to say, as a women and mother…etc, our worries can never be quantified… we have to deal with them EVERYDAY.
Most women have had at least one or more experiences or encounters of being followed or approached by some creepy guy when they are walking alone during the day or night. Saoirse is right...we always have to be prepared.
My father, my mother, my stepfather, our teachers, everyone had these talks either me (and my sister). I asked my brother a year or two ago, we’re now adults, hey has dad or our stepdad ever had a “how to be a man” talk, a talk how to treat women and call out your guy friends. He said no. He’s never had a father or father figure or even male leadership have that talk with him. Maybe that’s the problem. Over here in Europe, men have normalized such behavior. They can’t even identify what is considered harassment.
Its totally fair. Im in Melbourne and it often strikes me how unsettled single women are when walking alone when walking past others. I give them a wide berth because I understand. Its not personal, its that the parasympathetic fight or flight alert is constantly active.. im not jealous of that. I can think and relax while walking, letting my mind and awareness wander and its great. Women are constantly on edge.
One more thing about walking home alone is I purposely wwar baggy clothes when I can or bring something to cover up a nice outfit I may have been wearing... I know it may sound extreme to some, but these are the things women have to do to make themselves less of a target. (However imperfect some of the tactics might be.)
Now I am a senior woman who uses a walker for mobility issues when I go out shopping, I feel even more vulnerable. I have a grabber handy and though I may look weak, physio has given me muscles and strength I never had before. I may look like an easy target but I have experienced adrenaline rushes when threatened that could do serious damage to an assailant. It just saddens me that this is the world we live in, always have. I have walked this planet for seventy years, hyper vigilant every step of the way.
And in your seventy years how many times have you had to "seriously damage" an assailant. LOL! Shelley it sounds like your mental faculties are beginning to decline.
She wasn't "ready with a...reality check." It was one sentence, spontaneous, sincere, true. What hysteria ignorance can make of this world. Don't say, America how could you? Say, how could I, how could we, how could the world? To all, I quote John Patrick Shanley: SNAP OUT OF IT. Because there's work to do.
She speaks the sad truth that women whenever alone have to think can I listen with earbuds or just one, Where are my keys? Can I tell someone I am home so they know if I go missing to alert the police. I hate it when joggers run right behind you especially at night-I don't think they are someone jogging but think they are an attacker. We shouldn't have to live on edge but we still do.
As a woman, I always plot my escape route, tool for weapon, etc when I'm out. Even when I'm home, someone starts to break in, depending on where I am in my house, what do I do.
Just 5 min ago went back to my flat just because if felt unsafe outside at 11.00 p.m wearing absolutely unattractive winter oversize clothes. It makes me so angry that I can't even have a stroll before going to bed calmly . I understand now why some people earn a lot to pay for security and privacy to be in peace.
There's also a trend online of woman shaving off their hair, telling other woman to either divorce or not so subtly suggest poison their boyfriends or husbands. Don't act like woman are all sugar and spice cause you're not.
Society can’t have it both ways. They can’t tell women to be alert and aware of their surroundings. But when we talk about the levels of our preparedness, we’re called paranoid? Which is it?
I used to put my car keys between my fingers pointing out every time I walked my my car to the elevator when I walked through the underground parking at my building 40 years ago.
It's sad, but it's true. Just me looking at the news this month alone, there have been many women found dead. There are way too many instances of domestic violence and guys killing women because of rejection etc. It's horrifying that we aren't becoming much more safe by now.
I’ve been attacked multiple times as a men. Its standard for us. Violence happens. This is not a male/female debate. It happens to people. That being said I’m very protective to the women in my life
she is so right. as soon as the eddie guy started demonstrating what he was taught to do with his cellphone i was immediately engrossed. like yeah let me pay attention because one day i will *need* this...hopefully not. but that was my automatic thinking. i think this way any time i come across self defense stuff on the web. i just hope i'm able to remember it all if the time comes Lol god forbid but she's right. its like a 6th sense for some of us women... to always pick up new ways to defend yourself "just in case"...smh
Growing up, I'm so used to having my cutter or scissors ready in the front pockets of my backpack😅 when riding a cab, and the driver makes passes, I thank my rhinitis cause I get to blow my nose and be as disgusting as possible. I have motion sickness so I vomit slightly every now and then depending how severe the situation is. You'd know it's severe cause the questions get personal as well. When uber or grab didnt exist back then (as well as trackers), it was common practice to take a picture of the cab's license or msg your friends about your ride or be on the phone the whole trip just so the driver's aware someone is notified of your whereabouts. Ofcourse, men can also be victims but it's rare for them to think that way as most situations happen to women on a daily basis. Gahd. Even commuting on a cramped bus or train is horrifying. One time an old fart tried to touch my bum and my cutter was ready (my bag was on my lap). The old fart was shaking as I had the crazy demonic eyes going and left at the next station😂
I've defended myself with a strainer once and a cornet of melted chocolate another time while working in a kitchen. You use whatever is in your hand however you can.
i can tell you women are overdoing this "i'm not safe outside". very less % of men really want to hurt, tease, or stalk any women. i often walk and a women happens to walk ahead of me. i either stop or walk faster. bcoz they keep looking back "is he is following me!"
@@PanosSchmitAlmeira I'm sorry, have you never talked to men? Yes it is a generalization, but when you talk to them about safety issues they are almost always surprised be the things women have to think about daily.
Pretty sad that this is the world we now live in ... one with so little respect for human life, and so much repulsive behavior, inhumane treatment and fear.
I was glad she said that on Graham Norton.
Women think about it all the time when they walk alone (day or night)
my husband is so vigilant as well. he watches me when im not paying attention. we were at target, i was looking at things in the medicine isle and i went to ask him a question, i didnt see him right away so im doing the i just lost my spouse spin, and i spot him out of everyones way, staring at me, half watching me paniic, but watching everything around me closely. im not someone who will be oogled at or catcalled, so knowing hes still is vigilantly watching over me makes me feel safe.
it really depends on where you live.
@@MsTriangle exactly my point. In the hood men and women think about running all the time they walk alone. From strong women, men, police...
@@MsTrianglenot really, it can happen anywhere
Women think about it when they aren't alone as well
She was in Lovely Bones..that movie taught me that you need to be careful for neighbors just as much as strangers. That movie changed my life
Literally one of my favorite movies and also yes, I realized the same. Sometimes it's the people you know, unfortunately.
You should be careful with all human beings. Don’t trust anyone. I trust animals more than humans tbh.
People you know are way more dangerous than people you don't. Statistically.
I read that book, but never saw the movie. I think I will now. I didn’t realize she was in it.
The book is better.
This is the sort of integrity and conversation Blake Lively should have displayed in public after her movie recently. Very impressed with Saoirse Ronan.
EXACTLY THIS!
Saorise has depth, Blake does not.
@@Fnndjkvlf - you must know them both very well.
It’s her Irish upbringing, integrity played a very important role throughout our history, and saw our people through very difficult times, so it has become part of our DNA, either that or her mammy used the wooden spoon if she was dishonest when growing up, the wooden spoon has magical powers of persuasion in Ireland and particularly when in the hands of a capable mammy!
@@thefeckineejit264Integrity played a very important role when the Irish were colonizing other nations. Don't pretend like you're anything better than the British Empire. You lot were enjoying it
Paul's comment was pretty obtuse because 1) that was the very point Eddie was trying to make: most people don't think to use their phone in times of danger but that was the advice Eddie was given, to think outside the box, outside the norm to get into that character's headspace. And then 2) it's as though he's never spoken to a woman before. It's fairly common knowledge that women are advised to use whatever they have on their person as potential self-defense tools. Women often have their keys between their knuckles when they're walking alone at night and I recall learning that trick as early as elementary school. His active listening skill needs improvement.
It was a joke. I’m a woman with these real concerns. But he didn’t mean any harm. She kindly educated him and he got it right away so there is no need to vilify him as some people are doing.
@@wilhelmina8843 I wouldn't say he's being vilified, no one is saying he's a terrible and evil person. It's more so bringing attention to the ignorance of men to the point where they would even make such jokes. It's a much larger conversation than Paul but he just so happened to have missed the point entirely in this situation and further prove how in 2024, men seem to lack awareness when it comes to the disparity between the male and female experience in society. A person can be obtuse and ignorant without being a villain, but I'm certain he won't make these kinds of jokes again after this experience.
He and Saoirse are friends and she said in a separate interview that they have even had these kind of conversations before. I think he was trying to make a joke and didn't really think it through. It's not that he doesn't understand or never thought about it before. We all put our foot in our mouth sometimes, he just happened to do it on TV for the world to judge him for it.
I think Saoirse had an excellent response, it was a gentle reminder to him and anyone watching that it's not actually something to joke about. You can see his embarrassment almost immediately, he knew exactly where he went wrong as soon as she spoke up.
hmmm didn't he also cheat on Pheobe or had eyes in another woman while in a relationship with her?
I would say it's ignorance of self defense regardless of gender.
The conversations need to shift from focusing on women figuring out how to keep ourselves safe, to how do men needing to figure out how they stand with us, and shift from a culture of women-as-objects to women as valued human beings.
Very well said!! Thank you!!
That's not going well right now in the US ...
You’ve got that right. Women seen as objects.
statistically men get attacked more when walking on the street than women, the risks differ, doesnt mean men are safe and happily walking out at night wuithout fear
I really wish Saoirse has more shots with shows like it to give this narrative a push for what you just said.
It’s true. Thank you for bringing awareness to this Saorise - especially on such a huge platform!
This resonates for yesterday, today, tomorrow we women need to be savvy/astute about our surroundings and the people that are around us even the ones we don't realize or watching us, and tactical in a pinch.
In Scotland we have the "Don't be that guy" campaign.
You mean men are actually told not to harm people? Sadly, that's shocking. That part always seems to get skipped.
It was a male dominated conversation for a funny bit to get laughs and she reality checked them.
there was no "reality" though. She just killed the mood by furthering the feminist gaslighting of women.
A majority of violent crime is actually committed against men, including 78% of homicides. Women are significantly safer in the west than men are. This is a classic example of repeating a lie so often it gets confused with truth.
Her comment was extremely valid. Men are unaware and careless regarding the subject.
Because it almost never happens when a guy is with the woman.
Victimhood bs by femmos!? Most Normal people are over it! These pampered privileged snowflakes have never had it so good!
@@maxpayne232you missed the point
@@Fancy-p7z I explained why men seem unaware and careless about this subject. People always believe they're eyes more than anything else. So I don't think I missed anything. I never said what she said was wrong.
So what is the point exactly ? And more specifically what exactly do women want non-violent men to do about this ? Cause there isn't a lot we can do.
@@maxpayne232 “you” don’t have to do anything. Just don’t pretend that a woman’s concerns for her own safety because of her inherent size and nature isn’t on her mind constantly.
So true, I used to be a babysitter and when a walk home late always had my keys in my hand or close for self defence.
Is that the only time you’ve been on edge about being attacked???
@@graceg3250
??? It's just an example she chose to explain
So you were attacked, often? That's horrific! Where do you live, or did, at the time?
@@graceg3250 It was an exemple, plus i use to walk home from those job at 1 or 2 in the morning sometimes.
Key out…
The awkward silence of realization from the men after she said that was really telling.
yes I agree
It’s how ridiculous the men think that is and how ineffective it would actually be, yet for women that’s all we’ve got. Our only hope is something men find the idea of completely ludicrous.
This statement is really confusing and full of run ons
@@JpragerI read it perfectly fine. Sounds like a reading comprehension problem on your end. Wonder what other deficiencies you suffer from.
@@JpragerNot at all, there’s no run-on sentence here. Read again.
@@Jpragertry again
Exactly.
Some years ago in the TV series Silent Witness a female character was talking about attacks on women and made the comment, rightly, that a man's strength is a weapon. So women live in a world that is weaponised but they are unarmed. At one point I lived in a rough area in London and walking from the tube station to home I walked along the middle of the road (cul de sac so no traffic danger) with my keys in my hand. I am six feet tall, have played contact sports such as rugby and American football and have learnt quite a few self defence tricks so I figure I would not be a pushover but I was still wary. It is tragic that women have to live with that fear 24/7 and it is our responsibility as men to change that. Man up guys. It's on us.
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@@TB-tp5gkIndeed. It is kind of disgusting that people get stuck in these thought patterns. I am pro 2A for all people, but something tells me this henhouse doesn’t look kindly on that means of self-defense.
Every every every time, when I walk alone
Newsflash....Men think about this while walking alone too! Contrary to the propaganda, 80% of all violent crime r against men. 80% of robbery, 54% of men killed don't even know their attacker(13% for women). Many men just except it's a HUMAN problem and not gendered at all.The men who won't admit the fear of walking alone at night is generally due to being shamed or ridiculed for admitting that from men and women, but primarily women.
I'm shocked that people thought this was worthy of such discussion. She pointed out a truth. How is it so controversial?
Because some people can't or don't want to believe that this is something we have to think about pretty much all the time when we're out, no matter what time of day it is.
it's called turning a blind eye
Because there is always the one clueless dude going “it’s the same for women and men,” etc. No, it isn’t. I get so tired of explaining that. Women get attacked, harrassed, etc way more often.
@@NicoleAZ145 A majority of violent crime is committed against men, including an overwhelming majority of homicides.
The notion that women are disproportionally unsafe is, quite literally, feminist propaganda. Women are not statistically less safe (at least in Western countries), you have just been gaslit into thinking they are.
Exactly because pretentious idiots like you think it isn't...
Men treat it as a joke, but women must be vigilant BECAUSE OF MEN. Ironic isn't it?
Because men don’t care about women or women’s safety
That’s a strange statement because men also have to be vigilant because of men. Male criminals looking to do something violent represent a significantly small proportion of men. So the majority of men also have to be vigilant. In my country, 2 men for every 1 woman is a victim of a violent crime.
men must be vigilant from other men and woman too
@@PanosSchmitAlmeira but men don't get attacked for BEING men 😂😂😂😂
So glad she said that
It IS a thing GUYS should have to think about, many small actions and thoughts men have incorporated are the base for these tragic events. They should start to think about deconstructing that with their male friends. Not just come up with "It's nOT aLl mEn"
Ever older brother, who has a sister has already thought and gone thru all these scenarios. And I've always been at the ready to step in to defend anyone when required. I've been called every single thing under the sun by many woman who don't know me or what I would be willing to do to keep them safe. I know there are many like me that feel and do the same, regardless of norms, what we are tolled or how we are treated. The current times make me so sad, cause there are so many good men that protect you, they are your fathers, brothers and friends and we do this while being called predators, dangerous and not right.
Well it isn’t all men. And a significant majority of men won’t be deconstructing anything with their friends because most men don’t have pigs as friends. Crime statistics show this. I think people need to make their mind up. Do they want men as protectors? Or are people today still going to say any man that displays chivalry is sexist? The latter way of using identity politics has become too common amongst groups these days and is in fact driving a wedge between men and women.
That’s the irony, though - thinking “all men are trash” or “all men are potentially violent” leads to women’s hypervigilance, because they truly believe any man could harm them.
Most men are regular, many are idiots.
A few are horrible people like the officer (a COP, of all people) in the case mentioned.
And the saddest part of that is that the men who would do that won’t be swayed by speeches or lectures about things most men already know.
The irony is that the numbers are probably the same for the reverse as well (women-on-men violence), but men almost never talk about it, so those numbers are super skewed.
@@Smeginator While women-on-men violence is definitely a thing, I don’t know if the evidence supports the claim that it would be the same as men-on-women violence. Just look at the population of men that are caught committing a crime vs. women, or how many men are in jail compared to women.
However, the statistics do show that victims of violence are about 2 men for every 1 woman. So while women may “feel” they need to be vigilant, the reality is men should be the ones that need to be more vigilant.
@@Roach22 absolutely. Most violent crimes are, yes, committed by men, but very often are also perpetrated upon men as well.
And in regards to the evidence not supporting it, that plays right into my statement about skewed numbers.
Men rarely discuss it, and when they do, they are often not taken seriously (by police, by friends, by far too many people), so they end up keeping to themselves, doing more harm to themselves, and sometimes to others, when they finally lash out from frustration.
Having said all this, this should NOT take away from the women who also experience this.
This is something that men and women could (and should) be standing side by side to fight against.
I am Spanish and I always thought that because we had a dictator who isolated us from the rest of the world we were really behind. I imagined the rest of European males had been brought up in an equal to women education, but not really or at least they are not any better. I hope next generation will change that
Don't worry, it's all just optics. We pretend like we're more progressive than we actually are because true progressiveness is different and scary and a lot of those men who are the source of these problems don't want to lose that sense of control.
Ha, not a bit. France and Italy are horrifically misogynistic. Maybe the Nordic countries.
Wait, spain is a misogynistic country? That's really interesting because in México we are constantly hearing in the news about how you guys are so progressive and feminist
@ apparently we are very progressive comparing others. That’s not enough though
you thought spain was worse than albania or chchenya?
She's such a sweetheart though
so sad that most men still do not understand or care.
For most of my adult life Im aware of how single women walking alone - anywhere or any time of day - are on alert. They are often quite uncomfortable.
Always been such a beautiful human 🤍
Did you see how they cut her off the first time she tried to say it
Did you see how they respectfully listen to her just after ? what's your point ? expand it please
@@simonl5074 Results seem to indicate that they all need to make a practice of that more often, and then perhaps they will open themselves up to more opportunities to learn.
It’s not like they were foretelling what she was going to say, they were just riffing off each other, and once she dropped the truth bomb they all listened. Don’t try to make it seem like they didn’t WANT to hear it
I don't think they were cutting her off. They just weren't really done talking yet.
I’m just glad she took back the floor and made her important and valuable statement. Many people would just not bother after being cut off.
She’s so real for that! I run every day 🏃♀️ and one of my normal routine thoughts like I had today is that I can use my phone as a weapon if something goes wrong on this street. It’s a normal part of being a girl 🙏🏽
small hairspray, fits in pocket or handbag. A squirt in the eyes.
Men are statistically more likely to be attacked. You are not special
unfortunately, we think about it everyday, paul. every freaking day :)
Women and girls do need to be made to think about this. The point is though, THEY SHOULDN’T HAVE TO!!
We do think about it, all the time. And no, we shouldn’t have to.
How very true this is!!
I encountered this travelling with my partner. There were some areas I just wouldn't go to because I got the wrong vibe and he didn't get it. Like, I'm always looking for exits and subconsciously planning how to get out if needed. This is from experience and self-defense classes.
Yes. That's why when I travel (for tourism) alone, I always look up that place's safety re: solo female travellers.
Your story abt your partner reminded me of the r*pe & robbery case to a Brazilian/ Spanish couple who were travelling in India. The Brazilian lady was gang graped, the Spanish guy was tied up & punched. Prior to that, the girl was already uneasy abt the place, as seen from their vid. But the guy still insisted that they return to the place & camp there.
It's the case of "Vicente & Fernanda, India" if anyone's interested. The couple have a YT channel but the case was also covered by many Indian RUclipsrs.
As women, we have a 6th sense but sometimes the men don't listen.
same here with my mom.. she is from the third world and will go anywhere and isn't afraid like the typical neurotic anglo.. has nothing to do with gender
@@kitty_s23456 that brazilian girl comes from 100x worse city than that dude, again it has nothing to do with gender.. she just knows how to fend through poverty stricken areas better in which the spanish guy is oblivious too
@@PanosSchmitAlmeira neurotic anglo? what are you talking about , and this very much does have a lot to do with gender
@@kitty_s23456That’s awful. And it tells me that I’d better stick to my instincts if my husband wants to go somewhere I feel unsure about. Ladies, put your foot down! We do have a sixth sense and they need to listen to us.
So riiiight. ALL THE TIME(when alone or with a person who couldn't defend you...even with a guy..only some.) At least she really deserves this nice response and attention.some people, I don't know, their words create a big thing...and for ,like, nothing.But HERE..omg thank you lady
We all need to have these conversations. This is the time. Let Love Shout!
The way they went quiet after she said that because they can't exactly relate to it and didn't think that it's exactly true until the audience started applauding
They can't relate because they haven't been gaslit for 30 years.
A majority of the victims of violent crime in the West are men, including 78% of homicides. The only truth is that people care about violence against women more, even though it happens less often. The fear women fear is not a result of the actual likelihood, but rather the fact that they are constantly told how unsafe they are despite the fact that they are statistically safer than men in the West.
I mean they were really out of touch. Coming back home at night and we always think about that. I take the train relatively late in the evening and I see al sort of people that could become a problem and in my head it's all 'maybe I can make fake call, maybe I should walk on the other side of the road or change the carriage, let's not look at them in the eyes, hold you keys, wear comfortable shoes in case you need to run, don't wear jewellery (I even stopped wearing by engagement ring)'...
Literally walking further out of your way so you don't have to get close to them, but not crossing in an obvious attempt to avoid them because it might set them off, walking into businesses (if they're open) pretending you need to be there to avoid them and have more witnesses if need be. It's endless the things we need to do to stay safe.
@@SamanthaDianeExactly. I have walked out of elevators right after walking in when it’s just me and a sketchy looking guy in there and no one else. I say “oh, forgot my coat” or something and jump out at the last minute. It might be paranoia, but then again it might not. Anything to stay safe.
You know with this and all the "your body, my choice" bs going on it's heartbreaking to see how little men think of us or about us. And extremely male privileged it is to be able to just go where you want to go and do what you want to do alone at anytime of day.
that's not how men live at all, but make assumptions
@@PanosSchmitAlmeira Obviously not every man and I agree there are a lot of men who support women. But, we can't deny the election results showed that many men don't. It was just very disappointing to see.
What a lot of crap! Women live on easy mode compared to men! Stop the victimhood trope all of ya!
@@elisarodriguez9859You did not owe a response to the previous comment.
That comment was purposely obtuse unless the poster actually assumed that you meant every single, solitary, individual boy and man in the whole wide world (in which case they should frequent parts of the internet that aren’t their usual haunts).
@rachaelb.9476 I hear you. I appreciate the support 🙏
I always forget that half the population doesn't live like this on a day-to-day basis until the topic comes up. I'd like to think it's just called being aware of your surroundings, but I guess they just aren't aware in that sense. What's funny is I can't even say I consciously think about it; it's so ingrained in my being that it just happens intuitively.
They have no idea how privileged they are.
@@RB-xj9krThey are more likely to actually be a victim than a woman is. And the odds are low to begin with.
By other men though @@holmbjerg
@@Orlagh Gender doesn't really matter in the end if you are victimized. The media drives unnecessary fear narratives, because they focus heavily on male on female violence and largely ignores male victims. And the risk is very low to begin with.
@@OrlaghSo because men are attacked by other men it doesn’t matter whether they have to be vigilant or not? That’s a very weird take.
She’s RIGHT, we do think outside the box in regards to our own safety!!
Brava Ms. Ronan!
I always have my keys in hand before I leave an establishment day or night.
She saw the chance to say something important. She said it.
Brava Ms. Ronan.
Awesome to see her holding her own as the sole woman on the couch, I feel like they don’t usually set it up that way but Saoirse rose to the occasion.
Yeah I was thinking the same...3 guys and 1 woman talking about that specific topic
Now's the time to band together ladies. If you see someone in danger, be loud and call them out. If you see others trying to defend, join in - there is safety in numbers. Overwhelm and overcome. Do not allow them to divide and conquer. Stay Safe, but Stay Active. And thank the good fellas out there who are our allies. We need the "Good Guys & Momma Bears"!!!
It’s true, women have to think about it our whole lives. I’ve always been wary of dark parking lots, elevators when there’s just a man and me in, and sometimes I won’t go in if I get a weird vibe. Women just have our defenses up all the time because our lives depend on it.
Very true. Most men won't just pick up and kill someone but they are stronger, naturally more aggressive for the most part. Women have to be on guard all the time. I mean you don't have too and the odds are you'll be ok, but it's good to be prepared. I used to walk around at night and early morning all the time because I didn't have a car. I carried mace and my phone and I saw some scary looking people out there but none ever bothered me. Yeah, just be prepared though and don't do stuff that is obviously unsafe. But we shouldn't live out lives in fear either.
In the UK we have advised some women if they use a shoulder bag to keep a tin can of beans or soup in it so they can swing it at a potential attacker. Also if they wear high heels to stamp the heel into the top of an attacker's foot if they try to grab them from behind.
false women are more prone to violent attacks and murder
Saoirse Ronan ELLA ES MARAVILLOSA Y ADORABLE ❤
Ashling Murphy in Ireland and Sarah Everard in England and sadly nothing has changed. I'm glad Saoirse made this comment to highlight the reality of mothers, sisters, wives, girlfriends everywhere. I think a lot of men are understanding it now but our leaders still seem oblivious.
Excelente actriz y excelente ser humano 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 in México all the female we have this thoughts every single day 😕
The fact all four guys were still completely oblivious to that fact too. We’re raised differently because we have a different reality. Can you imagine being that care free?
Saorise is actually right!!! She had every right to say this. The Misogyny and Sexism to women in 2024 is absolutely disgusting these comments need to come back.
Thankfulness to this platform that has put a light to so many young woman getting violated upon or murdered. She referenced a 2021 case that got solved and the criminal is incarcerated. I am currently following a murder case in Canada, the mother from Africa has flown to Canada to claim her daughter’s body, and the last I heard is that she was planning to take her daughter home to be buried. As African origin, we all got to the assumption, “Nothing will be done once the that precious soul and body is taken away, no one will be held accountable for this lost just because of Identity ”…I say this to say, as a women and mother…etc, our worries can never be quantified… we have to deal with them EVERYDAY.
Since lovely bones my heart has a soft spot for her. & now!? We must protect her 🥲😭
I mean im no celebrty beg but she is absolutely stunning
Most women have had at least one or more experiences or encounters of being followed or approached by some creepy guy when they are walking alone during the day or night. Saoirse is right...we always have to be prepared.
most women have been the creepy guy too *
When you speak truth, laughs stop.
God bless her sweet soul…🙏❤️
We need more conversation about it! Not only by women to women but by media outlets, in schools, at home.
My father, my mother, my stepfather, our teachers, everyone had these talks either me (and my sister).
I asked my brother a year or two ago, we’re now adults, hey has dad or our stepdad ever had a “how to be a man” talk, a talk how to treat women and call out your guy friends.
He said no. He’s never had a father or father figure or even male leadership have that talk with him. Maybe that’s the problem.
Over here in Europe, men have normalized such behavior. They can’t even identify what is considered harassment.
Its totally fair. Im in Melbourne and it often strikes me how unsettled single women are when walking alone when walking past others. I give them a wide berth because I understand. Its not personal, its that the parasympathetic fight or flight alert is constantly active.. im not jealous of that. I can think and relax while walking, letting my mind and awareness wander and its great. Women are constantly on edge.
Yep. That about it... Always assessing safety.
One more thing about walking home alone is I purposely wwar baggy clothes when I can or bring something to cover up a nice outfit I may have been wearing... I know it may sound extreme to some, but these are the things women have to do to make themselves less of a target. (However imperfect some of the tactics might be.)
At 2.41. "Of course it's not the sort of thing that guys would have to think about" - Not true. All the other things she says are spot on though.
It's so true
This is something I talked with my son and my friends. I also want to teach my daughter and always protect the kids.
I love her.
Whats even more terrifying about everard’s case was that it was a police officer …
Now I am a senior woman who uses a walker for mobility issues when I go out shopping, I feel even more vulnerable. I have a grabber handy and though I may look weak, physio has given me muscles and strength I never had before. I may look like an easy target but I have experienced adrenaline rushes when threatened that could do serious damage to an assailant. It just saddens me that this is the world we live in, always have. I have walked this planet for seventy years, hyper vigilant every step of the way.
And in your seventy years how many times have you had to "seriously damage" an assailant. LOL! Shelley it sounds like your mental faculties are beginning to decline.
She wasn't "ready with a...reality check." It was one sentence, spontaneous, sincere, true. What hysteria ignorance can make of this world. Don't say, America how could you? Say, how could I, how could we, how could the world? To all, I quote John Patrick Shanley: SNAP OUT OF IT. Because there's work to do.
Bless her ❤
please ditch the background music while she’s talking, it’s distracting and too loud!
I love her
I'm so glad she raised it. So men can begin to appreciate why being a woman is feckin exhausting!!!
❤ amó a está mujer saoirse Ronan ❤ ME ENCANTA
For Centuries!!!!!!
Enough is Enough ❤
She speaks the sad truth that women whenever alone have to think can I listen with earbuds or just one, Where are my keys? Can I tell someone I am home so they know if I go missing to alert the police. I hate it when joggers run right behind you especially at night-I don't think they are someone jogging but think they are an attacker. We shouldn't have to live on edge but we still do.
As a woman, I always plot my escape route, tool for weapon, etc when I'm out. Even when I'm home, someone starts to break in, depending on where I am in my house, what do I do.
1:44 Genuinely thought I was having Deja Vu.
Just 5 min ago went back to my flat just because if felt unsafe outside at 11.00 p.m wearing absolutely unattractive winter oversize clothes. It makes me so angry that I can't even have a stroll before going to bed calmly . I understand now why some people earn a lot to pay for security and privacy to be in peace.
And now we have a huge trend of men and young boys going around harrassing women saying "Your body, my choice" online and irl.
There's also a trend online of woman shaving off their hair, telling other woman to either divorce or not so subtly suggest poison their boyfriends or husbands. Don't act like woman are all sugar and spice cause you're not.
Society can’t have it both ways. They can’t tell women to be alert and aware of their surroundings. But when we talk about the levels of our preparedness, we’re called paranoid? Which is it?
I used to put my car keys between my fingers pointing out every time I walked my my car to the elevator when I walked through the underground parking at my building 40 years ago.
It was obvious that that would go viral as soon as she said it.
It's sad, but it's true. Just me looking at the news this month alone, there have been many women found dead. There are way too many instances of domestic violence and guys killing women because of rejection etc. It's horrifying that we aren't becoming much more safe by now.
I’ve been attacked multiple times as a men. Its standard for us. Violence happens. This is not a male/female debate. It happens to people. That being said I’m very protective to the women in my life
she is so right. as soon as the eddie guy started demonstrating what he was taught to do with his cellphone i was immediately engrossed. like yeah let me pay attention because one day i will *need* this...hopefully not. but that was my automatic thinking. i think this way any time i come across self defense stuff on the web. i just hope i'm able to remember it all if the time comes Lol god forbid but she's right. its like a 6th sense for some of us women... to always pick up new ways to defend yourself "just in case"...smh
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Growing up, I'm so used to having my cutter or scissors ready in the front pockets of my backpack😅 when riding a cab, and the driver makes passes, I thank my rhinitis cause I get to blow my nose and be as disgusting as possible. I have motion sickness so I vomit slightly every now and then depending how severe the situation is. You'd know it's severe cause the questions get personal as well. When uber or grab didnt exist back then (as well as trackers), it was common practice to take a picture of the cab's license or msg your friends about your ride or be on the phone the whole trip just so the driver's aware someone is notified of your whereabouts. Ofcourse, men can also be victims but it's rare for them to think that way as most situations happen to women on a daily basis.
Gahd. Even commuting on a cramped bus or train is horrifying. One time an old fart tried to touch my bum and my cutter was ready (my bag was on my lap). The old fart was shaking as I had the crazy demonic eyes going and left at the next station😂
It’s the truth.!!
I've defended myself with a strainer once and a cornet of melted chocolate another time while working in a kitchen. You use whatever is in your hand however you can.
Sounds like kitchens are a dangerous place for you, maybe time to find a new career.
Facts. And if anyone thinks you are "playing the victim card," look no further for abuser mentality.
i can tell you women are overdoing this "i'm not safe outside". very less % of men really want to hurt, tease, or stalk any women. i often walk and a women happens to walk ahead of me. i either stop or walk faster. bcoz they keep looking back "is he is following me!"
I drives me crazy how clueless men are and how rarely they feel the need to think about safety.
that isn't true at all, you're just assuming you know what's in someone's head
@@PanosSchmitAlmeira I'm sorry, have you never talked to men?
Yes it is a generalization, but when you talk to them about safety issues they are almost always surprised be the things women have to think about daily.
Pretty sad that this is the world we now live in ... one with so little respect for human life, and so much repulsive behavior, inhumane treatment and fear.
The men's reaction is sad, but not surprising. They really have no concept of what women deal with on a daily basis.
Yep.
Its funny, cos it's so subconscious, I don't even realise I've got my keys between my fingers, checking behind me, crossing the road if there's a man.
You could not hurt a man. Just live your life and don't worry about it.
She killed the mood on the talk show.
Perrie Edwards voice?
All women need to be taught this
Now more than ever, sad to say. Hard to believe this is the 21st century.