So helpful. Plan to listen to this at least ten times. Just learning and want to work on pronunciation before my first lessons. By the way if you had a split screen where we come see your lips while you pronounce all these combinations, it would be useful. It wasn’t until the end of the video that I realized that my lips should be in the ‘semi-closed smiling’ position. This helped me a lot as I had been trying to make this ‘r’ type sound with my lips in a slightly open o shaped position. Thank you for making these videos. Xiexie.
Thanks for this. The pinyin 'r' is the most baffling sound I've come across in any language. It's like a (non-pinyin) very soft zh, hard r, rolled r, y, and ə all blended together in various proportions every time it's used. Makes the Russian ы seem like a piece of cake. I might just put this video on repeat until it sinks in for me, eh!
Agreed, Pinyin has completely and utterly failed in representing this sound... or actually, all of the various permutations of this letter: R , it's not just one sound(!)... it's up to students, who actually care, to seek out what is going on. This video is the best explanation I have seen, thank you Teacher.
I think we're similar, Native English speaker here but also fluent in Russian as well, I used to think that Ы (Yery or Ery) was difficult... not. Chinese/Pinyin: R is just maddening!! 😅
That's really helpful, thank you I've just started to learn Chinese in my spare time for fun, and R really confused me Liked and subscribed, gonna binge watch your helpful videos
@@columbusschoolofchinese9385 Thanks, i want to confirm it. If it's similar then i am lucky because we already have this sound in urdu so it's a bonus for Urdu speakers.
Thank you Sir! and Rant: This shows how crazy Mandarin is to learn... aside from Hanzi being completely worthless re: pronunciation, Pinyin itself does not provide an accurate phonetic representation of the pronunciation, rather, crude 'approximations'. Turns out, we need a phonetic 'cheat sheet' for Pinyin, which is supposed to be our phonetic 'cheat sheet' for: Hanzi... way to go, Mandarin! How many layers of phonetic abstraction are we supposed to memorize or keep in mind just to be able to pronounce this language? All because, in 21st century, the language still uses a pseudo-pictograph system for representing CONCEPTS rather than direct phonetic representations of SOUNDS... And spoken language is sound, not ... concepts(!). To quote Churchill, and apply to Chinese pronunciation ""A riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma"
So helpful. Plan to listen to this at least ten times. Just learning and want to work on pronunciation before my first lessons. By the way if you had a split screen where we come see your lips while you pronounce all these combinations, it would be useful. It wasn’t until the end of the video that I realized that my lips should be in the ‘semi-closed smiling’ position. This helped me a lot as I had been trying to make this ‘r’ type sound with my lips in a slightly open o shaped position. Thank you for making these videos. Xiexie.
Thanks for the feedback, Beardoggies!
Thanks for this. The pinyin 'r' is the most baffling sound I've come across in any language. It's like a (non-pinyin) very soft zh, hard r, rolled r, y, and ə all blended together in various proportions every time it's used. Makes the Russian ы seem like a piece of cake.
I might just put this video on repeat until it sinks in for me, eh!
Hope it helps!
Agreed, Pinyin has completely and utterly failed in representing this sound... or actually, all of the various permutations of this letter: R , it's not just one sound(!)... it's up to students, who actually care, to seek out what is going on. This video is the best explanation I have seen, thank you Teacher.
I think we're similar, Native English speaker here but also fluent in Russian as well, I used to think that Ы (Yery or Ery) was difficult... not. Chinese/Pinyin: R is just maddening!! 😅
This is wonderfully helpful, thank you!
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Happy to help-thanks!
That's really helpful, thank you
I've just started to learn Chinese in my spare time for fun, and R really confused me
Liked and subscribed, gonna binge watch your helpful videos
It's not you, that's why Mr. Newman made this video... Best Success, dont' let 'R' stress you 😅
So, so helpful. New subscriber.
Thanks! Glad to help.
The mouth position always reminds me of Mr Howell on Gilligan's Island, how he held his jaw so tight for certain sounds. lol
Lol. Just wanted you to know that someone showed up who gets the reference!.....😅😂🎉
I still have a little problem. Thanks for the video
Ha! And I always thought Chinese people cannot pronounce the letter "R". Now I've leaned it is I who cannot! LOL
Is it similar to Urdu ژ?
Good question! I am not familiar with Urdu.
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Thanks, i want to confirm it. If it's similar then i am lucky because we already have this sound in urdu so it's a bonus for Urdu speakers.
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Thank you Sir! and Rant: This shows how crazy Mandarin is to learn... aside from Hanzi being completely worthless re: pronunciation, Pinyin itself does not provide an accurate phonetic representation of the pronunciation, rather, crude 'approximations'. Turns out, we need a phonetic 'cheat sheet' for Pinyin, which is supposed to be our phonetic 'cheat sheet' for: Hanzi... way to go, Mandarin! How many layers of phonetic abstraction are we supposed to memorize or keep in mind just to be able to pronounce this language? All because, in 21st century, the language still uses a pseudo-pictograph system for representing CONCEPTS rather than direct phonetic representations of SOUNDS... And spoken language is sound, not ... concepts(!). To quote Churchill, and apply to Chinese pronunciation ""A riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma"