Guitar setup check without tools? | UNDER 1 MINUTE! | Guitar Tweakz | Kris Barocsi
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
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This time I'm showing how to check the setup of your guitar without using any tools. The best part is that it's simple to do AND it's done under one minute.
Please take note of the fact that this is not a setup video where I show the process.
PLEASE COMMENT if you want me to shoot a guitar setup video series where we can go into details. I'd love to make those videos for you.
In case you don't want to learn the actual setup process it's absolutely legit to go to a guitar tech / luthier. Still, it's important to know when the time is right to ask for that setup.
The song in the video was written and recorded by me.
Gear used in this video:
-Fender Telecaster Custom Shop 53 reissue
-J Rockett Archer Overdrive: bit.ly/2Ges1z8
-Analogman King of Tone V4
-Source Audio Nemesis Delay: bit.ly/2Dft6Gd
-One control Agamidae Tail Loop switcher: bit.ly/2KCXwZ3
-REVV Dynamis head: bit.ly/2IxwoId
-Morgan 1x12 cab Twilight with Celestion Creamback 75 speaker: bit.ly/2KFihDq
-Squier Precision 5 string bass
-Ernie Ball straps and cables: bit.ly/2Io0dfg
I was using two mics:
Sennheiser e906 on the cab (bit.ly/2VLwXlF)
and a Rode NT-2A as room mic.
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This man knows what he's talking about! Just got my new strat set up by Kris yesterday and damn it plays great. Keep up the great videos coming, bro!
CatPick Studios dude, I’m really happy you like it! Showing how to make a hand made compound radius on a vintage radius fretboard would also be a pretty interesting video... hmm 🤔😁
Sounds like a good one!
Kris Barocsi oh yes I would like to see this too🤘
Ya, "one millimeter is an inch?" Really!
@@PainterD54 what are you talking about??
You got me my new friend! Thank you! Before all of my strokes, I was a guitar tech for Earth, Wind & Fire. I've been playing Telecasters for 55 years. By having 5 strokes, I've had to teach my wife to change my strings.
Please do a video about setting up a guitar properly.
THIS!
+1
keinedummenfragen yes!
Yeah definitely do something like a tech corner type of thing. That would be awesome. Thanks for the great video!!
Kristopher Gamble working on it! 💪🏻 Thanks man!
Getting a setup video with metric values and "I don't know what it is in inches" is refreshing :D
As a trained luthier and guitar tech, you should ABSOLUTELY check the neck. When you look down a guitar neck, what you are looking for neck relief (bow or back bow) and any twisting in the neck. This should be done whenever you asses a guitar because it will affect playablility and comfort. Most electrics will allow for adjustment around wood issues because of how they are built, but more extreme bends or twists can kill an instrument. The other thing to keep in mind is that where the neck is joined to the body is not adjustable, and you MUST adjust for that which is why looking down the neck is important.
Mike Fiore Hey Mike, you are of course right about checking the neck. Especially when looking for twists and uneven frets. If we’re talking about normal truss rod adjustments though I find the method shown in this video way more exact and effective. Unless of course you happen to have a proper straight edge to check the neck bow. Which „normal guitar players“ obviously do not own. Haha. Yeah so it’s a complex subject but strictly for setup purposes I would stick to my statement in the video: that’s the simplest and most exact way of checking the relief. Cheers
I bought a stewmac neck relief gauge. I can tell in a second if there’s a problem. It’s the best tool I have ever bought.
Great topic...so many people just pick up a guitar and play it, or they are afraid to attempt setting up a guitar properly for THEM. It really does make a huge difference, in playability, comfort, intonation, sound etc. For me....truss rod adjustment till flat, neck tilt angle, level frets, file nut slots, add fret board drop off on last 12 frets, adjust bridge height, adjust bridge intonation, adjust pick up height. Play guitar. Go for it.
After watching your vid and many other action adjustment and fret dressing vids... I attempted to level the frets of my Amer Std Tele...So I bought some tools. The frets had a lot of string wear grooves....I took off the strings and straightened the neck and block sanded and leveled the finger board, got the grooves out, and crowned and polished the frets with steel wool and jewelers rouge.... I even refinished the fingerboard with sealer... I works fine.... action is real low with no fret buzz..... holy crap I got lucky.. the maple neck looks and works lovely............ Now I don't want that Godin anymore... my Tele has new life..... COOL
Great tips Kris! Thanks! The series on basic set-up techniques "for dummies" would be indeed much appreciated.
Kris, you're a great person. Just wanted to say that. Take care man.
I´ve watched your set up vids. I made lil adjustments on my guitar and good guitar came even better. I have just that tiny movement you was looking for. You´re worth your weight in Gold, man! Hope your employer realizes that.
yup need more of this
I prove his statement on the importance ot the setup of guitars, he prepared and sent me a Harley Benton guitar which proved to have the best neck of all my 5 guitars and what I ever played on. I can say that's ideal to play on. Hi, Chris, I'm happy to see your own channel.
Good video, solid advice.
I used to obsess about having a super low action and tried getting there by having as straight of a neck as possible. Could never get it right.
I realised with time that going for the ooposite works better. Basically more relief allows for lower action(up to a point). Settled for a .012" on my lp and stopped obsessing about how low I can get the strings, just raised it until no buzz. The room for the string to vibrate makes a huge difference in tone, clean and overdriven. I don't know how ppl play with dead straight neck...
Awesome video. More on this subject, please!
Nice video Kris. Personally I like tech type videos, Maybe some wiring of pickups, tone possibilities, and ways to go about setting up an amp properly would be useful to others, they would be to me as I do all my own teching on my instruments, the nearest music store is a very long way away and I have no way of knowing if the guy is a genius or a butcher! I have quite a few amps and guitars, the amps almost always come without recommended settings for particular types of sounds which I think is a shame. You spend 800€ or so and are faced with a long row of knobs and not much of an idea how best to set them, I am thinking of my Marshall DSL40 in particular. (yes, it did come from Thomann). So, I am very pleased to see you showing advice on your channel and like many other viewers, I am sure I can trust what you have to say!
Thanks Chris, many good suggestions here, I'll take note of them! I know how you feel, I've spent many years of my playing life in a similar situation. And that was before I had any idea of what a guitar or amp setup is and how things work. Cheers!
Thanks!! Very nice basic info that al we need to know
Again - great solo in the beginning!
Thanks! Please more about bridge setup, intonation and height and influence of the materials on tone. Nice editing with your playing between chapters
Cool and very informative video! There are general guidelines to follow when properly checking the setup on a guitar, but they are just guidelines. But players usually have different likes in how they like their instruments to play. Action, neck relief, pickup height etc. The tips he gives here are things you learn throughout your years of playing and getting to know your instrument and how to make those little adjustments. The way he checked for neck relief is exactly how I do it. I rarely ever uses tools to check measurements. You learn to go by sight, sound and feel.
I haven't known the nut check trick! Thanks for the tip(!)
Anytime! 😁 Üdv Tomi!
Cool video, I would like to see a series of videos like that
Glen Herman thx Glen, I’m making more of these, don’t you worry. Ha ha
1. Capo first fret.
2. Tape debit/credit card at twelfth fret and make sure it's flat against and matches curvature of neck fingerboard.
3. Set each string so it's barely touching card.
Been playing over forty years and this method always produces great results.
if the action is still too high, it just means that credit card is maxxed-out....replace with a new credit card, or call your bank and have the limit raised. LOL
Great tone and licks. That was some awesome new country guitar pickin'.
More Kris = More Happy Me
TheGuitarGeek and the more Geek comments in this section the more excited I get 🤪
Yes please, a set up series would be great.
Cheers Kris, really useful video 👍
Derek Paul dude! Thanks a lot! Next licks with Kris coming up in a few days. With a very special guest... 😉
So many people get this wrong. You want to use the fret on the upper (heel) end where the neck starts thickening into the heel. Usually the 12th fret. The truss rod is not going to move the 1" thick wood of the heel. Capo off the 1st fret and use half-way of that as your measuring point.
If the frets buzz from the 12th fret down add some relief to the truss rod. If the frets buzz above the 12th fret, raise the action.
You're not getting an accurate measurement if you're measuring from the 1" wood of the heel.
I would like to see more about repairs, set-ups, pickup swaps etc . So I got a reference when I try to do this myself sometimes 👍🏻
Before adjusting my truss rod I mark the centre with a fine felt tip pen so I can return to the start if I cock it up, once I am satisfied mark it again at the new position with a different colour
Telly rules the Waves :) And yeah would appreciate a setup series - especially how to adjust a Tellybridge (I mean the one and only type ;) ) with a 7.25 or 9.5 radius.
Thanks for the simple, common sense tips, Kris. Great tone and music too! I’d love to see an in-depth review of your R8.
Supperconductor thanks a lot man! Don’t worry, the R8 will get it’s episode. Haha!
Gibson or Audi those Audi’s are SWEET!!! R8 is a f’n 🏎 for the road 🤘🏽
@@PooNinja Ha ha! The Audi R8 is a sick machine for sure! Still, I wouldn't swap my R8 with it. 😜
Hey Kris, lemme add, sometimes touching 8th isn't really the feeling for some persons. I'd add, try using sunlight or a spotlight from sideways or behind you. Check if you have a slight gap (just a hair thick gap) between your string and fretboard (that sunlight and spotlight should give you good guide since those metals would reflect them back, and you can see the gap).
Dude, great vid!
I recently got back into guitar tech and this definitely gave me some insight
I generally leave the same space for the neck relief as I leave for the nut height. Just enough to clear the fret.
BTW, the bridge could not be the last point of adjustment IF the neck is improperly seated. I had to install full neck shims in both my G&L Fallout and the HB Oopsie, as both bridges' adjustments had bottomed out.
Damn I didn't know you had a channel. Subscribed instantly!
Awesome man! You have quite some videos to watch now. Hahaha! Gotta catch up 👍🏻🥳
@@KrisBarocsi I am, brother. I am!
Great playing and advise...congrats Kris!!!
Hab heute ne gebrauchte D'Angelico bekommen, die ich mir einstellen muss und ich freue mich das nachher anhand dieser Anleitung tun zu können. Vielen Dank dafür! :)
archi baldikowski gerne doch! Viel Spaß beim Einstellen. Schau mein neues Video über Halseinstellung an, vielleicht hilft das auch. Titel ist Don’t fear the truss rod. Ciao!
@@KrisBarocsi Mach ich! Gott, das wird so geil! ;)
I would add yo play it standing yo of that Is how you play live. Playing sitting at the store is always More confortable and easier which may not be the way you Will play live.
Thanks Kris, really good tricks. i might be interested in a series of how to do a full set up of your guitar. and maybe for drop tunings, because I can set up a guitar in standard tuning very easily, but for some reason, drop C and B, is very difficult to get a low action with no fret buzz. I hope you make more videos with a in depth look into guitar set up. thanks again!
Yes please!a video for setup process!
All your vids are really interesting, well done, great playing, I love your work,
Kris !
ArnaudK67 thanks a lot! I give my best. :)
Kris Barocsi ...and it definitely works ;-)
Thanx for the video... I remember now, that somebody showed me this looong time ago, but unfortunately I forgot about it. That helps a lot ;)
Yes, I'd love to see a guitar setup series! I got a really great sounding Hagstrom with the lowest action I've ever seen on a guitar. The only problem is the fret buzz. The high e is basically dead, the low E is buzzing as hell. Those are the only problems and I actually didn't care that much for some time because it's my practice guitar and I rarely play those notes anyway. But well, I want to have a working guitar :) I tried the second step and it indeed doesn't have any space left on the first fret. I'm trying to relief the neck a little bit. I hope it goes away.
Your playing with that Tele.... WOW Thanks man.
You will see this tele quite often on my channel. haha! It's my most precious guitar. cheers man!
Kris Barocsi couldn’t agree more! I just started playing about four years ago with a Squier Telecaster. Fell in love with it then upgraded to a Fender Tele... I am hooked and the Tele will be number one forever. Thanks for your videos and keep them coming!!!
Good video! Please make more videos of setup guitars! Thanks!
Awesome! May I please have another!
awesome
I can quite plainly and easily see uneven frets by sighting down the neck from the headstock. It's clear as day. And then move your finger up and down the fretboard just above the strings and watch where your shadow matches the high fret. It's the single fastest way to find a fret that's totally out of whack.
Great Playing! And ... good explaining of the set up of a guitar.
Roel Oosterboer thank you!! Now that I see you guys are interested we can go deeper into this subject. 😎
Just subscribed...really have enjoyed your Thomann videos over the years...you're a great player and have a very cool, layed back style...not to mention you're Hungarian like me! To answer your question, Is like to see more buddy's like this and with mire detail...like what to do when you rub into trouble or what aftermarket non-oem parts would you recommend for upgraded to stock guitars...for example, I like to change how some of my guitars to match my style and tastes, in looks and sound...what parts would you recommend and why? Looking forward to more! 😎🎸
Music Therapy Laz Hey man, thanks that means a lot!! I will definitely make more videos in the Guitar Tweakz series, don’t worry. And cool suggestions, I have noted them already. Haha!
Kellemes meglepetés, hogy Mo-ról is nézi valaki a videóimat.
Take care man
Üdv!
Kris
Yo holmes , you can push my buttons anytime but you may not pull on my knob, EVER !!!
Bud your playing sounds great
Maybe a video would be Great so to visualize How much relief is needed For the neck thanks kris
Marco Celestino You can see the relief a little bit at 3:02. As you can hopefully see the string barely moves. Let’s put it this way: 1mm movement in the middle of the neck is a little bit too much for a low action. So between 1mm and no movement at all is what you want. If you push down the 1st and last fret and the string touches the frets in the middle of the neck, then you‘ve over done it -> then simply loosen the truss rod a tiny bit. I hope this helped.
And yes, I will shoot a few more videos on guitar setup, don’t worry. 👍🏻 cheers!
Thanks Kris 😊 appreciated
Use feeler gauges. Measuring is a surefire way to quickly get you to consistent results every time. After you've done that you can simply play it and make minute adjustments from there.
cool great advice ...simple - Thanks
Kris, that Tele sounds great
Awesome that you like it. It's an incredible guitar. My Nr.1. for obvious reasons. haha!
Ok not sure if this is the right spot but this is what I got. Single coil or something like Duncan rails in bridge position tele. Can you split rails and get relatively close sound?
So now I know how to check if everything is set up correctly. But how do I adjust it if it's not as it should be? People always tell me I shouldn't be setting it up myself but there's no way I'm paying 50 bucks to a shop to get it done lol.
Quick, easy and comprehensive. Thanks a lot for these steps how to check the basic setup, Chris! Very useful. Definitely wanna see the whole process how to do it properly.
thanks for this, thanks @kris ! what neck shape guitar do you have there? what telecaster model?
Can we have a full version of that “random song”? That was sick!
Working on it! Thanks a lot dude! 🙌
A Capo and feeler gauges, take out the guess work and are needed to do the set up. Tools are cheap, mistakes are not.
Useful tips for beginners.
But maybe misses the point of 'sighting' the neck.
It isn't to look at the frets - definitely not the fret ends. Sighting the neck is looking for a range of 1st concerns. These would be problems that need to be fixed before you buy, or problems that can't be fixed without huge, expensive procedures.
When sighting a neck, one is looking for any curvature in the neck - bow or back-bow. Looking for any difference between any curvature on one side of the neck vs. the other side indicating a twist. This means looking at the overall neck surface, not just the frets.
If the neck does have some bow, is it consistent over the whole neck? Or does it stop at the point where the neck joins the body. If the latter, this could mean it may still need a serious fret job after the best setup possible.
When I look at a neck, I start with the back - if it doesn't have opaque paint. I want to look at the grain of the wood. If the grain runs off at a steep angle - not parallel to the length of the neck, this could cause twisting of the neck down the road. If the neck grain does have severe run-out, I move on to the next instrument without any more time giving to that one.
If the guitar is old/used, I look at all the glue joints of the neck. Fingerboard, neck/body (if it has that) etc. to see if there are any gaps or signs of repair. Stuff like that.
Otherwise, good tips.
Nice video, some of those tips are new to me ... You have great licks and tone, so you can make some vids about dialing great tone and some tuition for small licks and tricks ;)
Thank you! Great idea, I think I'll make that video about dialing in tones. Cheers!
Any chance of a video on how to do a partial re-fret - like the first 5 or 6 frets where most of the wear is? I have an old Les Paul copy and don't want to spend a fortune re-fretting if I can do it myself. Also, I feel that this is quite a common problem with ageing guitars.
i dig your playing.
EXCELLENT!!!!!
Good stuff!
Thanks !
How do I take a china Tele and make it sound closest to Perfect especially when it is not a string through guitar?
What kind of pickups are on that tele? Sounds amazing 😁
Thanks man, check out this video for all the specs and details: ruclips.net/video/zPRCNB8YC_U/видео.html Cheers!
Thanks for sharing!
Today, I got the bad surprise to have a horrible rattling sound when I play the center strings between the 5th and 7th frets. I checked all you did, I check if everything is properly fixed (knobs, tuners, pickups, etc.) But the noise seems to come from "inside" the neck... as if the trussrod is rattling with certain harmonies?
Ever heard of that?
And when I knock the back of the neck, it sounds "hollow" 🤔
And the trussrod adjustment wheel is full to the max on the righty tighty.
Should I worry about the future of the instrument, I just bought it new...
PS: sharing your knowledge on your channel would be great!
Hey Oilid, if you're sure it's not fret buzz and you checked if the neck relief is good then yes, it could be the truss rod rattling around... Try loosening it a little and test those notes again. It's hard to tell anything for sure without having the guitar in my hands though. Also, if you can't solve it and the guitar is new bring it back in the warranty time. Use it, that's what it's for. Cheers!
@@KrisBarocsi Hello Kris! Thanks for your answer!
Yes, the rattling gone when I loosened the trussrod a tiny bit. It was very hard to turn lefty loosy too.
Now, the question is : is it a problem for the future of the guitar or does it happen often on green wood?
Because in 20 years of guitar buying and playing, it's the FIRST time that I accounter this problem.
It's a Schecter KM7 MK3.
Thanks again man, you're great!
Hmm it's impossible to tell if it happens again or not. Normally it shouldn't. If you don't feel comfortable with the guitar best is to give it back. And even if you don't, make sure to check on the truss rod again before the service warranty is over. Just move it a bit in both directions and check if it rattles or not. Cheers mate!
@@KrisBarocsi Ok. Thanks for your advices man! I'll do what you told me to check the trussrod.
Keep on being great bro!
more guitar setup videos, please
Hi Kris,
realy enjoying this channel .. just like the thomann channel, at where you are my fav. host (with Julia close behind).
Could you make a setup guide for Western Guitars too? I mean, Neck and Nut would be similar, but what about the Bridge? What can be done, Setup wise, at western guitars?
Michael Wolf Thanks a lot Michael! Very good idea making an acoustic setup video. I wrote it on my list. Haha! Cheers!
I kind of believe a pro setup is the biggest difference between a good guitar and s bad one.... that and pickups, and bridge. Wood and finish certainly matters but I think its very minor.
Hey kris! I have a tuning issue with my 7 string guitar. It’s a schecter V loomis 26.5” scale. Now, when I want to tune to B flat with a set of 0.10 - 56 gauge the tuning for the low B string sounds perfect in tune with the rest of the strings. So if I put a set of thicker strings on it like a 0.60 gauge on the low, the tuning is totally of with the rest of strings. I have to tune the low B string almost 27% lower than perfect pitch to make it sound in tune with the rest of the strings? I have checked intonating and it’s fine. Hope it makes sense!😄
Cause I’m confused!
Cheers
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Rod Kimble siiiiiiiiiick is goooooooooood. 😎
Place a Capo on the 1st fret, will make your life much easier! Even six in a row!
Good info...noe the Les Paul.....a bit of a different animal.
Lol I've learned that the hard way about the fret ends
Hey Kris, how do you like your Dynamis? Im eyeing on this amp for a long time, only thing that Im affraid of is reliability. You think is build to last?
How do you setup your string height on tele?
Hello kris, i have the tele52ri original neck has some dead notes when bending specially on the 1rst string, would you recommend refrett or something i would like the same frets as your 63 tele, thank you
Hey man, bring your tele to a guitar tech to fix the dead spots. Mine has a 9.5 inch radius and the 6105 frets. That is a nice mixture of modern and vintage feel. cheers!
How much relief are we looking For the neck?can you please explain it a Little better ..i am always struggling to get it set up properly
Use a capo on the 1st fret!
Steven Haefner Works to hold the strings in place if you need to remove the neck to adjust the truss rod, so you don’t need to remove the strings every time.
@2:09 is what I did to check for twists in the neck
what year jnr is that a 50s?
fretboarder haha, I‘d love to own an original 50’s junior.
This is a heavily modified 2015 Gibson Les Paul CM though. I did a refinish on it, changed the humbucker to a Lollar P90, changed the pots and wires and swapped the G-Force tuners to traditional ones.
Nut files easily cost nearly as much as a half a decent budget guitar, or 50% more than a low end HB.
DONT PUSH THE LAST FRET. PUSH THE FRET WHERE THE BODY MEETS THE NECK.
I do what i want
1mm = .039 inches or .0021 cubits so stick with the metric system 👌🏽I’d like to see the bare minimum of tools for a simple set up.
Dude, believe me, I love so many american things: music, the language, food, the nature, cars, bikes, my chucks, many TV series, etc. But honestly, this whole inch thing is terrible. ha ha! Especially stuff like 24 1/16 inch (which equals 24,0625'') WHY NOT STICKING TO ONE VERSION?! For instance with the one you can actually type in a calculator/computer. Can you please sort this out for us Mr. Poo? 😂😆
I wish I had that power hell they crashed a mars prob cause someone did the SAE to metric conversion wrong you think that billion $ mistake would have been enough. There’s a ton of idiots here just look at our Cheeto of a leader . It’s like having a spoiled 3 year old trying to run things 🤬🤬🤬
Poo Ninja I feel you man. The US is not the only country with weird issues though, trust me. 🤦♂️ At least we have GUITARS! Ha ha!
people are still good they just need more music :)
looking down the neck will fool you, to me it always makes the neck look like it has a lot more relief than it actually has.
press 2 , 5 then 6 (Epic)
Under one minute. Explained in 9 minutes lol
Ewin the Mahoutsukai Haha! What should I say? It takes longer to walk you through it than actually doing it. 🤷♂️
Kris, can a capo be used on the first frets?
pascal bxl ohh absolutely! Just make sure the capo doesn’t press the strings too hard. Let the capo push the strings slightly on the 1st fret but don’t over tighten it. Cheers!
@@KrisBarocsi thanks so much! I am not sure though l can change the tightness of my capo...but will try
1:30
I use tools.
This is for trained eyes 👀 But it is not wrong.
Sorry for my hungarian, but jól tudom, hogy magyar vagy, ugye? :)