Winners and Losers From the Wolves Game 7 Win in Denver | The Bill Simmons Podcast
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- The Ringer’s Bill Simmons and Ryen Russillo react to the Timberwolves winning Game 7 against the Nuggets to go to the WCF.
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2-3-2 is the most insane way for a series to unfold, especially when the first 4 are road wins
Think it's the first time in history that it played out that way
yea its one of the most bizarre patterns in NBA playoff history; I have not see it. I think Jokic Nuggets did have a sieres where first 4 games were won by road teams but then it didn't end up the way this was in the last 2.
Right, the closest was the heat beating the Celtics 2-3-2 in the 2012 cf. The heat had home field advantage tho
Crazy how under the radar the Jaden McDaniels performance is going. He played the two best games of his career back to back.
J-Mac was why the Wolves won game 6 and 7 with stepping up offensively.
Ant mentioning teammates in EVERY interview is what makes him loved by the team and the public
Lmao you guys are sheep.
@@scandelez I guarantee nobody likes you irl
@@scandelezyou sound like a Denver fan
No it ain’t. Lebron did the same thing. Let him not win a title in the next two years. Y’all will drag him like y’all do everybody else.
Wolves fan here who was in the building for Game 7. While in line for a beer at half, was patted on the head by Nuggets fans congratulating my squad on a great season. Smiled and said, "Anything can happen in a game 7...Anything". WOLVES IN 7.
I think the biggest loser here is Donovan Mitchell having to watch Gobert play decent offense and hit free throws
And be the first of them to make it out the first round (edit second round)
@@Shortballa11Second round*
Nah it should make him look in the mirror and realize he’s not that guy. Antman gives his teammates hope and can still criticize. DM never had anyone’s back like that and has never led anybody in that way. He literally sat playoff games in critical moments.
@@GeronimoPlaz thank you, ill edit
Gobert elevated his free throw game this past year to crazy heights.
Let’s not get it twisted; KAT was Minnesota’s best player in game 7.
Didn't close the game for a reason. KAT was a mix bag with some big moments.
No he wasn't
Kat was on the bench for most of the Minnesota run and in the 4th quarter. It was Ant, Naz, and McDaniels doing most of it. Kat played good tho for sure.
@@holstorrsceadus1990Kat had to sit for bs fouls, came back in for the big putback to put the game away bro.
@@hurrihawkson2002 KAT "had" to sit. Just stop right there without the excuses.
They couldn’t give KAT his roses. Definitely his game.
The Minnesota bigs in general won the game. KAT was their best overall player, Gobert's presence anchored their defense, Naz Reid was the ideal energy bench guy. Minnesota won by just being the bigger, more physical team in a game 7 rock fight. This game feels a lot like the 2010 Finals Game 7, complete with the star SG of the winning team shooting 6-24. Size still matters.
KAT officially doesn’t deserve ryans hate. KAT is solid as a high value number two scorer and can be a number one at times. He fouls too much but hey, Naz Reid did great, Kat’s sacrifice is great, slightly too much dip on ya chip for 6/24, and 18 the game before but hey they won and as a nuggets fan I’m sad it’s over. Most happy for Mike Conley.
As a nuggets fan you should be mad it's over, a 20 point lead lost... that's not the team that won the chip. That's a team that believed the bs hype. Malone and Jamal were both pathetic in that 2nd half...
Pathetic...
Ant had 27 in game 6 to force a game 7. Who you talking about 18.
Ditto Conley. He’s paid a lot of dues
Your numbers are off. Ant led the Wolves in scoring in Game 6.
KAT is a bonehead who deserves every bit of despising he gets.
I am really impressed with KAT defense on Jokic .
Cause he got Gobert to help him and double team...If it's straight up 1 on1 Jokic bullies him.
@@realone296 When did you see that happen?
I think KAT is a bonehead. There was one play in game 5 or 6, I think, where the clanked a corner three an Jokic pushed his waist and KAT took an unhurried stroll towards the tunnel while the Nuggets broke 180 degrees in the other direction towards the MN basket. Aargh.
@@gandydancer9710 Learn basketball casual!
@@realone296cry harder. 😂
Nuggets dynasty: 2023 - 2023
@realone296 Gobert was out in the 3rd for the last 5 minutes and Kat played solid D on Jokic
Give Rudy his respect, he jump started that fourth quarter and put them in the bonus. That pacified Denver’s defense. And if Denver keep taking the ball out of the net or keep facing a set Minnesota defense after FT. It puts them in a tough spot.
Well said denver struggled to score in their halfcourt offense this series, other than jokic going straight to the cup they didnt have lots of options. Murray and mpj were clamped up most of the series
Exactly, that is a perfect take and I agree 100% bcuz after those early fouls in the second half Denver lost all momentum and had to play cautiously and negatively effected their mindset
Not to mention Rudy put the Nuggets in the early bonus in the 2nd and 4th quarter nearly by himself.
Exactly. Rudy LITERALLY started the run that got them back in the game after being down 20. Played great. Hit big shots, made free throws in the clutch. Big game by him
People that need to give KAT his flowers. Dude proved that he’s the x-factor for this team. Mismatch for 4 or 5s but can play defense.
I’d say the xfactor for the team is Jaden. Edwards and towns are supposed to be their best players but when Jaden plays well is when this team is at their best
Lmao some classic bill moments on the pod. KAT’s foul was like your kid throwing sand in another kid’s face.
Ryen: “I just don’t want to update the Rudy trade every 24 hours”
BS: “No, that’s what we’re gonna do. Every Sunday.” 😂
They showed Ant in a timeout saying to an assistant: "I'm about to get into my bag" then came out and got a steal, a dunk, then a three that really helped the momentum continue to favor the Wolves. Great couple of minutes as a Wolves fan...
Ant is the new guy. He's going to be the Werewolf of this league for some time to come.
And Rudy actually came in big after the half to get them within 3. I hate Rudy's playing style. But he actually helped alot in the 3rd. And It was over with the NAZ and KAT huge dunks.
Yup. I thought he said that. I'm glad you caught that. That's maturity from a young star. 👏
@@yannisbarrientos82 That's confidence, not maturity. Maturity would be not ball watching on defense.
@@jamesmiller5331he’s gonna lose to the Mavs. He’s not even close to Luka
KAT being the best defender we’ve ever seen on Joker is crazy, but not shocking these guys barely mention it even though KAT is playing at a phenomenal level
Respect the wolves-the whole squad
Magic Johnson won his first title at 20, not just Kobe at 21
The difference is, neither Magic, nor Kobe were the best players on their team when they won their first title, at that early an age. I know they gave Magic the finals, MVP, but in all honesty, Kareem was screwed out of that. He was clearly the best player in that series up until game 6.
@@Riles3152 I’m definitely with you, Ant is my favorite player in the league rn, I’ve loved his mindset since I learned his favorite sport was football. That 2 way mentality definitely shows up in his game!
Kobe won AS A ROBIN.
AS A ROBIN.
@@Edd-zd5wbcut the Robin crap narrative already and just go rewatch those playoff runs. Not just the finals but the Western playoffs and compare the Shaq/Kobe stats. Go appreciate Kobe initiating the offense and playing lockdown defense on the other teams best perimeter players
@@ElBrillante4 Kobe was a great Robin. Not Pippen, but great.
Ryen wanted Ant-Man to lose so bad 😂
Jokic glazers. What did ypu expect
Jaden with 23, fuck yeah
“They got Kevin Durant, but we got Jaden McDaniels” -Edwards.
The world is seeing Edwards was not exaggerating.
@@draftmagicagain1000I have a funny feeling if they win the championship, that will be the start of something new in Minnesota
@@RASTAGOOB it already is the start of something new! The Wolves have arrived! They’re a legitimate title contender, this year, and next year. Unlike a lot of other teams, I don’t think this team really needs to add any more talent, they function really well as a Team. 🔥
AMERICA....FUCK YEAH !
What made this series so good was how it unfolded. Going into the series most people thought it would go 6 or 7 but nobody thought Minnesota would blowout Denver in Games 1 &2. Coincidentally nobody thought Denver was going to trash Minnesota in 3 & 4. The only games where the favored teams won were the home teams in 5 & 6. Of course the T’Wolves won their THIRD game in Denver of the series to clinch last night despite a bad game from Antman. 🤯 What a series
Bad first half, he locked up Murray in the 2nd Half
The bad game trope focuses on offense when it is clearthat Murray would have scored 50 without Ant man's defense. His defense on Murray transformed the game.
@@nextlvlngYa’ll make so many excuses for Edwards that you don’t make for other players. If Tatum shot 6/24 and played great defense, he would be ripped apart for not playing well offensively. Then again, y’all did this same crap with Kobe.
@@nocturne311Murray disappeared completely after Ant started guarding him. It wasn't an excuse at all. I watched the game live and was shocked at the level of activity Ant displayed. No excuses. He won that game for them.
Nobody really thought it was going 7. 6 at best with the nuggets winning.
Props to Gobert for hitting his second half free throws.
Wolves are now 8-1 this season when Edwards is held under 5 points in the first half. Wolves travel in packs .
DEFENSE and Ant never stops attacking, he always stay aggressive.
And do it from the back
It's because he starts playing really good defense when he struggles offensively I'm talking legendary type defense
Wolves gonna get dogged by the Mavs.
@@Joes35 ant gonna bitch kyrei
Bill famously forgot Magic who was Finals MVP in his rookie year, at age 21.
He’s a Laker hater what do you expect
30:55 Actually Magic Johnson won 2 rings and 2 finals mvps before 23! Bill, I know you know this.
I swear it's refreshing seeing a superstar guard whose just as much a presence on defense as he is on offense.Even when it was looking bleak Ant was still passing to his team until they finally started hitting and eventually he started getting the glow again.Ant is really giving off 06 playoff Wade vibes right now
Tatum lockdown both ways
@@johncarlostorres160 I said GUARD as in backcourt player
To be fair. Edwards has the built of a small forward
Perhaps the most insightful comment about basketball ever made was by Coach Popovic, the year Danny Green was going crazy in the playoffs hitting threes. The poor reporter asked him something about what he did to make their offense so good, and Pop tartly replied: "Your offense always looks good when the ball goes in." As my daughter used to say, "the vice is versa as well." That leads to the simple analysis of why Denver lost this game. They played fine in the third quarter, got their shots from all of their guys, but just missed them. All of their starters missed open shots they usually make. This shook their confidence and gave Minnesota energy. But it was not till the fourth quarter that Minny played like they did in game two, with an incredible combination of great D and unbelievable shot making. The poor shooting of the third quarter then met the best defense in the league in the fourth, and the only player on Denver who had any belief he could score by then was the Joker, but he was gassed, and Towns and Reid defended him as well as anyone ever has, thus minimizing his impact.
“We got Jaden McDaniels”
The story was gobert towns and Reid. Reid had a perfect 4th quarter.
McDaniels
The story was the whole team.
@@eliseeden you’re right
More people should be talking about Jaden McDaniels. He is a difference maker. Him and Ant are gonna own this league for years.
The fact that he didn’t get a single vote for DPOY makes me angry and I’m a Suns fan. I haven’t missed a single Suns game in over 3 years and there is no one in the league who can lock down Booker the way he did in the first round. It was frustrating to watch but at the same time I wondered why he hasn’t gotten any media attention all season long
Telling u man w all the Ant and MJ comparisons and all that noise, if Ant ends up following an MJ trajectory then McDaniels will be Pippen
@@scopezzbro2458 Learn to write in English.
@@gandydancer9710 Did you not understand what I was trying to say or do you just get off by grading the grammar of RUclips comments its not that deep
Lmao they gonna get worked by the Mavs. Credit to them, they don’t or won’t own anything
Kats defence is the story here…jokic bullying everyone in the post opens up all his teammates. It doesn’t fit the narrative here
Kat locked up Jokic at times for sure
Respect worthy. But the entire defense was great and Jokic didn't have the passes he usually has.
Anyone that watched knows the story of the game was Nas and Kat. The guys at hoop collective also give Kat a lot of crap, but at lease were honest about what really happened in the game
Haha. Yeah, that’s the story: KAT with the help of a double-team held Jokic to 34 points.
Isn’t the story that other than Jokic and Murray the rest of the team scored 21 points? if his teammates hit shots Jokic has 15 assists.
Everyone wants to make it about the stars every time.
Offensively Ant choked. 6-24?
Doubles and.Gobert at the rim.
Kat did his job though.
Naz with fresh legs was able to outwork a gassed Jokic down the stretch, and so was Rudy on the boards late. Big men getting some rest makes a huge difference, we saw that with Embiid against the Knicks and AD against Denver.
I was not expecting Naz’s active hands and quick feet to play as big of a role as they did this series
just say joker ain't the best in the world. Not if u get gassed. That's a flaw as big as being a bad shooter.
Does Magic not count as guys under 23 that have won the title? He was 20 when he won finals mvp that first year.
Bill Simmons + Ryen Russillo + the playoffs = my favorite time of the year ❤
It’s crazy how much these two 💩 on KAT…he is one of main reasons why they won lol his turnover was scary but that tip in dunk shut it down for good…but y’all don’t want to give him props for that lol
Yeah, he's not the Wiggins era KAT anymore, where he tried to always be something he's not and soft. He's pretty efficient. I forgive his brainfart.
They too busy talking about his faults to realize how talented and unique he is.... What other big is big enough to bang with joker and also decently guard in space, rebound and also be an elite floor spacer?
@@KTF0 He's making 250 million and is in year 10 he's doing his job at this point no one is surprised.
They literally give him credit and say he had a great game. I swear people just hear what they wanna hear and don't even actually listen to wtf is being said
That put back dunk was phenomenal but that fifth foul was moronic.
the Antman glaze is getting ridiculous , give props to KAT Rudy Jaden McDaniels , Mike Conley, Naz Reid. too much glaze for 6/24 shooting, his teammates made him look good by getting the offensive rebounds of his misses, Did Bill actually watch the game?
Yeah Minnesota is stacked
If Wolves somehow end up winning the Finals, you know they gonna push Ant as next young Kobe lol
To be fair his series stat line was
27.7ppg 5rpg 5.7apg 1.5 spg
On 50%/37%/85% shooting
He shot 6/24 but hit some clutch shots down the stretch.
💯
Can’t blame Jokic too much, but he was 0-7 at a point from 3, and missed some huge momentum shots in the 3rd. I also thought he was horrible defensively, as he was hardly putting in any effort to rotate on the perimeter.
He was gassed
He was fatigued, and Denver has no bench at all
He was exhausted. He couldn’t keep banging so he was just jacking up 3s. Nuggets shooting has been absolutely atrocious this whole entire playoffs
@@pinbarbecue1100 yeah Jokic could’ve been more conditioned. Hell, even KAT & Conley weren’t affected by the elevation. But yeah when Aaron Gordon turns into Tobias Harris and goes 4 & 4, while your bench has 5 points you’re gonna have a hard time winning.
Straight up and down, the whole Nuggets team could be in better shape.
You can tell the bald guy is depressed that Denver lost 😂😂
Dude I’m shocked as well. I’m thinking Minnesota will pop next season. I guess their time is now
Mikey Malone lost. He needed some humble pie.
Literally had a cake walk to a chip last year and now he thinks he is Pat Riley what a clown just like jokic.
@@AngelValdez-mr3fqhe had a cake walk but they were underdogs against the suns and barely favored over the lakers. I’m sure u made a lot of money betting since you knew it was gonna be so easy for them to win
@@AngelValdez-mr3fqcake walk? Lmao the revisionist history is hysterical
@Romanus- What do you call winning a chip without ever facing a 50 win team. He faced a bunch of play in teams. It would not be a big deal until you realize jokic has never beaten a 50 win team in the playoffs. He is a fruad. He will be 30 next year and never beaten a upper echelon team because he is a worse statpadder than Harden. At least Harfen could beat 50 win teams with his Stat padding but jokic cant. Jokic is a disgrace to basketball
@@johnnycash8567 they've never beat a 50 WIN team in the playoffs.
Chokic
"I think Anthony Edwards was born in the wrong era. I don't know if he's ever gonna put it all together. I have no idea if his teams will ever win. I'd pick Edwards 4th in a re-draft after Wiseman, Haliburton and LaMelo”--Bill Simmons (2021)
Damn!!!!
Ouch
Trade/s already worth it. Rudy trade also got rid of dlo and added Connelly and NAW. Both of those trades expedited Ants growth which is invaluable considering he is about to become a generational talent. Keep hating cuz you were wrong. Who cares about 5 picks in the 20s. Wolves in 6.
Agreed now that’s it worth it. Bt they still need to win the ship just to put their stamp on it
At this point no one cares about trading 5 picks and 4 role player for Gobert. It was worth it.
Haven't even made the finals yet😂
Nah, the Wolves gotta win it all at least once with Rudy or it's a failed trade because with Ant & KAT and role players & bench depth those picks could be used to finish building a championship level squad. So if they don't win one with Rudy then those trade resources were a waste.
@@BuffBroc Even though I think the Wolves have a solid chance of beating the Mavs Gobert is probably going to be played OUT of this next series the Mavs are going to be playing 5 out A LOT they've always done that to Gobert
@@BuffBroc Some people just can’t admit they may have got it wrong 😅. I bet you tell the dealer to hit when you’re on 19. 😂
@@realsinceday1632we already saw the Suns play 5 out against the wolves in limited minutes and they got killed on the boards. it's not sustainable 💀
The biggest loser is Ryan Saunders who had to watch his old team being coached competently for a whole 7 game series while he sat on the Nuggets bench...
Yeah, brutal
I mean, that was probably rough... And he wasn't good at the helm of the Wolves, but I imagine he was happy for em.
@@erickleinwolterink3524 I imagine its like watching my girl getting rogered by Johnny Sins as I sit in the corner and give them a thumbs up.
😂
@@soysaucehairdye7869lmaoooo
“Rudy threw in that prayer”…. Whatever Russillo, everyone knows that is Rudy’s spot.
😂😂 Rudy don't got no spot be quiet
@@dre7147Nah you, wet blanket.
I thought they were going to dump Rudy but Rudy is so key to stopping everyone but Jokic. AG/Murray much less effective when Rudy is down low.
Bill trying to act like Ant had a decent game so he can avoid giving Rudy and Kat credit is crazy. Having Towns on my favorite team has been a roller coaster but tonight he saved us. And Rudy has been wildly underrated all year by the media. If we win a title they'll still say we gave up too much to get Gobert. The confirmation bias is insane. Meanwhile, the Donovan Mitchell trade was lauded at the time and has gotten very little heat since.
Ant was 16 points on 24 shots, 8 rebounds, 7 assists, and played defense like a hell hound. Kobe was 23 points on 24 shots, 15 rebounds, 2 assists, and played defense like a hell hound. That may be bad shooting but neither one is a bad game.
THE CHOKIC GLAZERS IN SHAMBLES
LET THIS BE A LESSON
YOU HAVE TO PLAY ELITE DEFENSE TO BE THE BITW
One more time for you all: Towns was excellent in 10 of 11 playoff games, and has been the best defender on Jokic for the last two years, regular season included. Embarrassing that you don't realize that.
Not a Wolves fan or a Mavs hater but I think from what ive seen Towns is gonna exploit Mavs bigs
35,19 for Jokic. Wake up dude!
@markbantz9699 How many of those points were scored on Kat? When Legend after Legend says he did a great job on Jokic, then he did a great job on Jokic. Period. Just my opinion. When you are the MVP and considered the best player in the league, people can play great defense on you and still score 30 plus. These players are incredible and great offense will beat great defense most of the time. Folks forget that and just rely on stat lines for their takes....
10 of the 11 is a stretch
He's been ok I wouldn't call that excellent.
Rudy was a big reason Wolves made the WCF and he changed the culture in MN. Naz Reid said he didn't like defense before but Rudy's taught him defense and his passion is contagious so now Naz LOVES defense and gets a rush. Rudy has affected the development of the young players and is a big reason they are getting meaningful playoff experience and had their 2nd best (possible best) season in franchise history. As a Wolves fan, this trade was absolutely worth it. Fuck em picks. I prioritize Ant and getting him playoff experience over hypothetical 20 year olds any day.
22 and younger? Damn, Bill don't tell me you forgot about Magic...
Bill was about to say, "first line of his obituary" in reference to Kobe, but caught himself just in time!
I think the Nuggets will do a lot of rethinking this summer, and looking at Murray, Porter and Jackson have to realize (especially about Murray) that this lineup isnt as timeless as they hoped it would be (that will be painful especially since they have that family vibe).
The Wolves on the other hand, Conley had a rought start and Towns needs more confidence but basically everyone, went hard and never gave up and helped each other. Ive never seen a team that was consistently, game in and game out, this well focused, on both ends, I have so so much respect for them now, and I wasnt even a fan of the Wolves. But I am now. Holy sh*t.
PS: Mavs and OKC were amazing too, both teams couldve gone through and be a contender, this is gonna be a hell of a conference finals.
Grab your popcorn, this ones gonna be apocalyptic.
Im truly happy the league has found a new energizer of youth, defense and willpower.
I think they need to trade MPJ for 2-3 role players if possible. He's overpaid for what he's doing
Love how Ryen knew that Bill did actually say that Ant wiki line but let him off the hook. Shows great maturity. Keep it up, Ryen!
Conley hit some massive 3's in that 3rd quarter run.
Nuggets Will Be Back & Better Remember I Said That. Congratulations To Everyone In The Wolves Organization Great Series
We won't 😂
Nah they done
Nuggets will be like the new school spurs. Win every few years
Ant hits a step back 3 at buzzer ending 3rd putting Wolves only down 1.
Naz & Townes both have monster putback dunks in the 4th
Gobert nails a 18ft turnaround at the end of the shot cloc.
Conley hit 2 threes on shot clock buzzer beaters
McDaniels was incredibly efficient offensively the whole game
Great analysis
Again. The two guys need to fully answer for calling the Gobert trade the worst in the history of professional sports as it pertains to the below enormous profound fundamental assumptions.
1) playing two bigs
2) value of first rounders in the 20-30 range.
3) value of first rounders 5 years in the future
4) when does a team's window start/end
5) what Gobert specifically does for KAT specifically
6) what Gobert specifically does for Wolves D specifically
7) Isn't it better to have an additional 30 year old prime player today without giving up any players today?
They need to do better than "derpy derp Gobert is playing better than last year and it's still too many picks."
the Antman glaze will never match the Jokic glaze. The 3-time MVP just lost a second round series up 20 at home to Edwards, Gobert.... and Kitty Kat
The nuggets bench scored 3 points and Minnesota was a better team. If Minnesota wins title then it’s pretty damn impressive jokic took them to 7 with no bench and porter playing awful
His lovers want us to give him never ending praise but never hold him accountable for team losses. To his credit, Nuggets were playing 2 v 5 nuggets starters went to sleep. Jokic and murray did all the work.
Jokic gets all the credit when the best starting 5 in the league win as a team, and gets 0 blame when they lose. He was absolutely horrible defensively all series. When you have the ball the majority of the shot clock on every possession, you’re gonna get stats. These “almost triple double” stats do not matter. Crucial offensive boards at the end of the game for Minny. Horrible possessions forcing DHOs in the 2nd half when you need him to simply score. He was BAD. These ringer guys will never criticize him.
@@Walrus286 its not the best starting 5 in the league…. You cant be serious Boston and Minnesota are better. He does not get all the credit when they win. Murray gets credit. Jokic was great defensively in game 7, min scored 90. You just a casual who dont know ball. Show me an nba team who could win with 3 bench points. What other player you replacing jokic with on nuggets who take minn 7? No one. Nuggets wouldnt make the playoffs without jokic. Thats the truth
@@tylerware2836 go watch the recap from 5 days ago. Bill was saying he is better than prime Lebron. Yes. He gets all the credit when they win and 0 when they lose. The team is built around Jokic to make up for his massive deficiencies defensively. It’s an incredible starting 5. Without those perimeter defenders they’d give up 150 points per game. To answer your question, replace Jokic with Bam and they’re a 5 - 6 seed and have the #1 or #2 defense in the league. His role players didn’t bail him out offensively tonight. He deserves a ton of blame. Those late offensive boards Minny had sealed the game. He was horrible. It’s okay to critique him. The ringer absolutely blows him when he wins and there are 4 guys with 20+ on the nuggets. They throw the role players under the bus when he loses.
Bill was loving jokic this year....he has to eat some
Murry missed so many passes. He killed them this game because he wants to shoot so much. Denver needs a point guard.
Jokic is the pg
@@datruth9078no he is not. He hardly brought the ball up
Absolutely. A generally weak backcourt there
He shot them to a championship literally.
This is a terrible take. They won the title a year ago on the back of his shooting and he’s the greatest playoff riser of all time. Nothing is broken about that team except the bench/role players.
Always love the breakdowns between Ryen and Bill. Glad to see some new blood get some shine. KAT played a terrific series. Rudy Gobert was an integral part also. The Ringer wins with another amazing episode.
These guys have picked nuggets to win and now unable to digest wolves win. I'm laker fan but this hate against gobert is too overboard.
They say nuggets miss shots. They are missing shots bez they are tired bez of wolves defense.
Bill somehow found a way to argue that Ant’s performance was EVEN MORE legendary because he shot 6/24. 😂
The glaze is starting to get ridiculous.
You see it. You haters can’t deny it. The 3rd coming of Air is here 🤷🏾♂️
Great series!!! Since the bubble, the road teams are 8-4-with 2 each every year.
This comment doesn’t make sense. Can you rephrase it?
Joker looked exhausted.
T-Wolves might win the championship this yr because the way their defense can 🔐 teams down for a seven game series is crazy. Their big is ridiculous and they have size in every position
still riding with my celtics i know rudy and kp were out for a game but tatum still averaged 38.5 points on 50% or better against them this year with that great defense, and ant shoots 12.5% when guarded by tatum and we would be the first ELITE defense the wolves play plus we have size too. both games were close and went to OT but i love our chances, should be the most entertaining finals in the last few years !
Ant had those two free dunks, where you thought he was going to windmill on em or something. Instead he did the fundamental guaranteed two handed dunk. I think that really speaks to his maturity and wanting to win over being flashy. Maybe if the game was in Minnesota he does things differently there.
He’s not as big on using his athleticism as people think. He’s purposely developed that slow step euro in order to save his knees early.
No point in poking a bear
Rusillos face when Bill calls Jordan a loser is priceless
Magic won first title before turning 21, but Kareem was on the team. He had that great game 6 to win the title and was Finals MVP.
As a Nuggets fan, I miss Bruce Brown & Jeff Green. I don't know HOW they get replaced 😢
Yeah, when people say Jokic is playing with a bunch of scrubs…he’s quite literally playing with a bunch of scrubs. The lack of reliable talent on this roster is insanely low. It speaks to how great Jokic is…but man do they need to make some moves and get him some reliable help.
@@scarletspider1240amazing starting lineup. They need a 6 and 7 tho
Agree. They were a big factor last year. Why let players like that go? Don’t say $.
@@Shortballa11paying MPJ 35 million is amazing? Dudes a glorified role player you can get someone with his production for 10-15 mil they need to try and trade him
@@fkscopes what 10-15million player can you get to replace him lol? and dont cheat and pick someone on a rookie contract like Jdub.
“No 22-year-old besides Kobe has ever won the finals. “
Ummm… Magic Johnson was finals MVP when he was 20
Bill, as a Celtics fan I can’t believe you didn’t remember that Magic Johnson won the NBA title and the finals MVP as a 20 years old in 1980 (younger than Kobe who was 21 in 2000).
That’s one of few time I wanted for Philadelphia to win the title.
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"That's the good thing about the win is we'll never think about that play again." Russillo slipping it in like Indy pulling his hat through the closing door.
Minnesota is a defensive team, when they lock in they're hard to beat
Wolves about to put all the “Defense no longer wins championships in the NBA” talk to rest.
There’s nothing Jokic could do to get criticized. Defending champ, mvp lost game 7 at home and “oh well he’s still awesome”. Proves he’s not in the highest level of conversations bc certain players would get criticized there
Here’s my criticism: if he’s going to chuck all those threes up, he should hire a shooting coach and learn proper form. It’s probably time he did that.
He had a 34-19-7 on 13/28 FG. Jokic isn’t the reason they lost the game. Pope and Porter couldn’t hit anything and Edwards contained Murray in the second half. Jokic did what he could. Sure, he didn’t shoot well from three but you can’t really ask much more of him in this series. He averaged a 29-11-8 with almost two steals and a block on over 50% shooting against the best defense in the NBA. I was rooting for Minnesota but no, there shouldn’t be any critique of Jokic after this one outside of saying that he should work on his outside shot.
Nah, he will get a ton of criticism because this makes their title seem like more of a fluke. This was the first time since 2022 they played a team that wasn’t in the play-in and he shoots 45% and 2-10 from 3PT, didn’t defend well and was a -9 in the +/-. That isn’t how MVPs perform in Game 7’s and this will hurt his reputation
@@zeus4885Okay and what about game six? Jokic was the only guy on his team who scored more than 12 points. He put his team up with a legendary performance in game 5 and then showed up for games six and seven moreso than any other players on the Nuggets. I watched the whole series and I thought Jokic did what he could against a truly great defense. His teammates weren’t there at times.
@@zeus4885so the suns were in the play in last year?
Russillo's face at 30:50 after the MJ as a loser of the series take has me dying
Ant played great D, underrated performance, and huge momentum builder
The Joker apologists are talking fast right now
This series is a future documentary
Check this out.
The guy did a great job putting the together and dropped it last night
16:17 Same thing I saw last night. It really showed me Ant’s basketball IQ
On the flip side of Bills “how tf did that go in” shots, they should also track “how tf did he miss that shots”.
I think KAT did so well defending because he's quicker and then you have Rudy who can come over for the double. When Rudy was on him it seems the Joker knew if he got Rudy out of the way it was over.
I think naz was the best on him
@@LoSoNBanks22 He can't move Naz the way he moves the others. Naz gives up some inches but he's also heavier on that shorter frame.
Rudy is quick too, it's Towns' bigger build, which is why he always covers Jokic (best in the league at it)
@@mbc111975stats say otherwise - for 2 years KAT has been the best defender in the league on Jokic and it's not close.
@@laredolassoo He's an inch shorter and 10lbs lighter. How is that a bigger build?
Lets see what these two KAT haters have to say now
No they aren't Kat haters, Kat is making 250 million and been in the NBA for 10 years, and been a disappointment for most of his career, thats just the truth. Without Ant, Kat and Minnesota would be a 13th seed lol like back in the day.
@@dre7147 And without KAT Ant would be headed to cancun right now instead of getting ready for the WCF. They both need each other but wolves fans act like they don't
“2nd Row Rusillo” 🤣
This Mavs wolves series is gonna be a football game
The rollercoaster you've been on with series lol, I was hype to see what your take was gonna be the second I saw that Rudy step back.
The Rudy Step Back! You nailed it. That was the moment.
Do you know what a step back is?
'THERE'S MORE WAYS TO WIN A BASKETBALL GAME WHEN YOU'RE NOT JUST AN OFFENSIVE PLAYER .. IM NOT ONE DIMENSIONAL' - ANTHONY EDWARDS
"You really are a patriot" is an under rated hilarious comment by Ryen.
Conley not getting enough love. Those last twenty minutes where pure point god.
Huge in Game 6 as well
Magic played with Kareem out and played all 5 positions in the title clinching game. Scoring 42 points. Magic turned out to be pretty good, huh? Ant is incredible and the sky is the ceiling. 💯
Jordan didn’t become Jordan until he had the defense, the team support, the coaching, the jump shot and the ability to lead. Ant isn’t Jordan but it’s sure as hell fun to watch his arc at the beginning. Can’t help but compare and root the Wolves on.
Two weeks ago everyone was saying nuggets had brightest future in the whole league 🤷
KAT Conference Finals appearances: 1
Embiid Conference Finals appearances: 0
I’m happy for KAT.. but he isn’t the best player on his team, so it’s no longer a comparison between those 2.. if Embiid somehow became #2, then I’d feel you.. but who could you even pair him with that would make him #2??? Doesn’t currently exist in the league.. Which kinda proves the point..
But good for KAT.. it’s been a long journey for him.. rooting for them to go all the way..
Kat isn't a #1 like Embiid different situations
Danny Green Conference Finals appearances: 6
Ant Edwards Conference Finals appearances: 1
What is this supposed to prove
How stupid are you??? One of them is retired. Kat and Embiid have blood and go at each other.
Blows my mind how much Minnesota trusts Gobert with the ball. Never seen a more unnatural offensive player in my life
Hahaha we all thinking the same thing and then he hits a fade away 3. I think they just trust their defense enough to have bad offense
Simmons wanted Shai to beat Luka for Content, I guess? No one can think Shai is equal to or better than Luka all around. Shai has a better team now than Luka did going against Golden State.
Thankfully, Russillo is the only Ringer person who stands up to Bill. Bill needs to remember the draft night love he had for Luka.
WATCH Luka in Regular season. He gets BORED some nights, and he decides I think I'm gonna get a triple double in this first half. If they ref him equal in this upcoming series Mavericks win.
Magic Johnson was 20 when he won his first championship as a rookie. and he scored like 40 points in the final game of the series.
They spent more time talking about Ants poor shooting than anything else
How the hell is there no accountability for Jokic who Bill has prematurely claimed is a top 10-15 player of all time 😂 . His side kick had 35 points and they blew a 20 point lead at home . He was tragic in the second half, some of the worst defense you will see . Dont be deceived by the stat line , fluff numbers . They were lucky Antman was so cold in the first half otherwise they would have got dusted by 30
covering for joker. It's actually really comical watching these guys duck and dodge talking about the massive elephant in the room: THIS WAS THE GREATEST SINGLE GAME CHOKEJOB BY AN MVP IN NBA HISTORY AND JOKIC OWNS IT.
aaah digging out now - like Jordan never went 9-26
Props to Ant for being deferential offensively and allowing his guys to get going but the real hero this game was Mike Conley. Without his steadying presence on the offense they would have stood zero chance against Denver. I’ve never seen KAT look so composed in such a big spot, and ditto for the other young guys as well.
That odd sequence where it was a jump ball between Conley and KCP, and then played immediately into another jump ball between Murray and McDaniels, even though it was McAdaniels and Braun were on the floor wrestling for it.
They can’t just rely on Jokic that much. They need more people
The nuggets are loaded, the wolves had energy and found a way to win, Denver found a way to lose…
Yeah pretty clear the Nuggets just don't have the depth. Their starting 5 might be the best in the league but their 2 best bench guys all season were a 2nd year wing and an undersized rookie rim protector. Wolves having Reid alone coming off the bench is a huge advantage over Nuggets bench, and he's only one of 4 capable and trusted bench guys.
Reid is going to get big payday soon and if I were the T Wolves front office I'd be the one paying him and moving on from KAT for a load of assets.
@@hattyhatnah they aren’t. They just constructed the perfect roll players around Jokic but none of these guys would be as good on a different team. They need more depth
Yep. Jokic is surrounded by elite role players but at the end of the day, they’re still role players. If you swap Jamal Murray with Booker, Mitchell, or Paul George, Denver would be a dynasty
@@hattyhatthe nuggets are "loaded" yet literally the only team to win a championship with 1 all star player 🤣 .
MPJ is a waste they need to try and trade him. Maybe trade him for 2-3 role players to get a bit deeper