What’s Next for the Knicks? | The Bill Simmons Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2024
- The Ringer’s Bill Simmons and Ryen Russillo discuss the Knicks losing Game 7 to the Pacers.
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Great postseason run by the Knicks. Overachieved given the injuries.
Brunson breaks his hand and no foul called hahahahaaa
Great post season? We lost to the pacers. Why are we so delusional. Brunson ain't it unless we want first round exits for the next 10 years
@@janrobertching8391this man appears to be quite the idiot 🤔
@@janrobertching8391”Unless we want first round exits”… last two years we made it to the second round and half our team was injured this year…
No one said that for the cavs who were missing their best player and lost to a much better team
Reading the comments on Thibs...I'm just wondering what people wanted him to do. In the playoffs, you always shorten your rotations. Look at Ant's minutes. He's at over 40 MPG, KD is at 37, all the Nuggets starters are at 35 minutes or more (Jokic at 40 MPG), LeBron and AD were both playing over 40 MPG, Luka and Irving are averaging 40 or more as well. Even during the regular season, you usually see the best players on a team go for 35 MPG. Brunson, Hart, OG, and Divincenzo were all averaging 35 MPG or less in the regular season. The only guy whose minutes jumped drastically in the playoffs was Hart because it was necessary, but even his 42 MPG are not far above what Jokic, AD, LeBron, Luka, Irving, or Ant have played.
As far as the Knicks future, they just have to understand their ceiling is gonna be the ECF with this roster. I like the guys on the team but it's not gonna cut it. They would've been out in the 1st round had they been in the West tbh. They were 29-4 vs teams below .500 and 21-28 vs teams above .500. The only playoff team with a worse winning percentage against teams above .500 was Orlando.
A lot of those losses was from before og and of course when og got hurt so you can’t really look at our record against winning teams and say we are not good
@@AzornRhodes I don't know if we wanna go down that rabbit hole. You'd have to also start taking credit away from the Knicks for beating above .500 teams that were injured when the Knicks beat em.
For example, I know the 76ers were missing Embiid most of the season and the Knicks were 3-1 vs them.
@@AzornRhodes damn, but we can't rely on OG to be there so .... i don't know, i still think we're stacked
People just stick with lazy narratives instead of actually seeing what happened
Playoffs make sense to shorten the rotation but Brunson averaged over 38 mpg over the last 10 of the regular season. They had people on the bench barely playing that could have played more but Thibs doesn't trust guys. Burks got a few dnps and less than 15 in every game dueing that stretch. Bojan got under 20 minutes almost every game during his stretch before his injury. Meanwhile, Hart and Donte are playing 45 mpg in the regular season.
Let me be clear, I'm not saying it's his fault players got injured, but it's definitely a possibility, and maybe they have just a little more if they just play less in the regular season.
The knicks are stacked when healthy.
If everyone was healthy, Knicks not even top 4 in the East lol
@@MaxJulien2701 we will see. The Knicks were hooping when they were healthy. They almost made the conference finals without an all NBA player and allstar. So well see. Meanwhile the PACERS will crush the weak-ass celtics.
The question is, how will the chemistry be with everyone healthy. The most loaded roster is not always the best team.
@@MaxJulien2701nah, the Knicks lost one game all year with Brunson, OG, and Randle in a lineup. They are kinda loaded when healthy
@@mileshall9235 good question, hopefully won't just be Randle iso-ing for 48 minutes
I love the way Ryen talks to Bill like he knows he doesn’t know what he’s talking about but has to be respectful since it’s his platform. It’s fun to watch. 😏🤣
The Knicks don't need to make a trade. They can get to the Finals with a rotation of Brunson, Randle, Divincenzo, Anunoby, Hart, Mitch, Hartenstein, McBride, Bogdanovic + 2 first round players.
Randle was having the best season of his career before he got hurt. Only guy they would trade him for is Giannis. Booker and Mitchell don't fit defensively with Brunson. Every time you guys talk about the Knicks it's dumb as hell to forget about Randle who is an All Star PF.
I sort of agree but do think they should maybe think of trading randle. I know he was having a good season but he hasn’t been all that reliable come playoff time. Either he gets injured or he plays worse than he did in the regular season. Look how they performed without him I think they could trade him and still be a great team depending on what they get for him
Randle for Giannis? Jesus Christ are you giving up 19 1st rounders too?? That framework doesn’t exist, nor will it ever exist.
Agree with everything, but I know what you mean that the only blockbusters to do for the Knicks trade wise would be Giannis or Joel. I would like Joel with Brunson & Julius together but if Giannis, Randle goes lol no hard feelings
We gotta see if DiVincenzo will keep this up next season cuz he's the most questionable to me because this season felt like an outlier by him so if you can get a guy like booker do it and obviously if you can trade Randle for someone better at the 4 spot do it but it's really not that many available or even above average 4's besides the immediate ones.
@@jeremyroberts8822 they were a .500 team without him. It happened at the same time as OG’s injury, but they say they are just as good without Randle as with him is crazy
I can listen to these two and zack lowe talk basketball forever.
Bill Simmons is awful lol
This Pacers squad reminds me of the Hawks from a few years back. I do believe The Pacers are a better squad (than the Hawks) but I think the Celtics series will be over in five.
That’s a solid comparison.
Do not underestimate this team, remember how they were pre Hali injury.
@@skylertaylor7283 I won't pretend to consume Pacers basketball, just watched a few games this postseason. I don't want to be pessimistic but it's a lot easier to win games this time of year when your opponents are down two or more starters. Will be interested to see them against a healthy C's squad.
@@Chalk89haven’t watched much NBA in general by the sound of it, it’s the playoffs. Everyone has injured players on every squad this time of year, it’s always been a major factor in every Finals run since the beginning of the league… you are also the 5,000,000th person this week to say that so great take very original
@@UserNo1000 I have, just not the last few years. Who are the Celtics missing? Who are the Pacers missing? Who are the Mavericks missing? Who are the Timberwolves missing? You can't just generalize that, 'every squad...' while the ones who are advancing are the ones who are healthy and clearly the Knicks were decimated not just heading into the postseason, but losing guys during it as well.
Knicks in January with a healthy Brunson, Randle, OG, Hart, DDV, etc. Had a 14-2 Record, which ranked 1st in the NBA; a defensive rating of104.4, which ranked 1st in the NBA; a net rating of 15.8, which ranked 1st in the NBA,; and a rebound % of 54.8%, which (you guessed it) ranked 1st in the NBA. None of the injuries to Mitch (originally or after Embid), Randle, or OG's injury had anything to do with Thibs. Please....BS narrative...Run it Back
Guess what the regular season means nothing. And when your coach refuses to play his bench during the regular season players end up injured. That’s Thibs and the Knicks won’t make it this far next year. Knicks won’t be a top 5 seed next year. Knick were the 2 seed, pacers the 6th. Knick won 3 more reg season games and played all those extra minutes for nothing.
Clippers had a great stretch of basketball around that time. Got them eliminated in round 1
I haven't seen anyone struggle like Thibs does with load management since a late 1980s Peter North.
uniformed and easy trope that has no validity if you look at the data from this year. Brunson led the team in minutes and he finished 15th in the league behind guys like K.D..
@@55freeagainfor real dude, you’re just going to try and lay down a real reply to this obvious and brilliant joke? This comment is the case study for people from Indiana being dumber than a box of hammers.
You know who didn't struggle with load management? Oliver North. Folks...
Boston better be careful with the Pacers especially with no Porzingis. 🤔
Rusillos shoulders look huge
Not devastating for the Knicks that’s a reach. Team was hurt it was a good run. Pacers had an historic game against a compromised team. Nothing wrong with that. Kudos to a young team having that grit
knicks fan here. still very much processing what happened. i am very proud of this team. the hustle, grit, heart. i think the bottom line is that it took the best shooting performance in nba playoffs HISTORY for the pacers to beat a one-legged knicks team. it hurts like hell, but i am definitely proud of this team. and i think the celtics will decimate the pacers. i think the championship is anyone's game, except the pacers.
Keep acting like we were lucky to beat the almighty Knicks, I swear Knicks fans are the clowns of the century
It didn't "take the best shooting performance ever" to beat the Knicks. They would have won without making some of those 3s and you know it.
Enjoy another offseason convincing yourselves you're getting a superstar only to swing and miss and lose before the ECF again next season.
@@AceManning18your view of Knicks fans and their thinking comes from watching espn and Stephen A. No Knicks fans wants a superstar or some crazy trade this summer. We just want to resign OG and hartenstein and run it back with a healthy team. Pacers are not lucky to beat the “almighty Knicks” but they have been lucky to face heavily injured opponents in both round 1 and 2. But luck does play a part in all playoff runs, so it isn’t something you can hold against them.
@@SteveNY823 OG, Mitch and Thibs. First two injury prone and the last wears his players out.
@@SteveNY823 sure. Some of you have brains. Most of you don't, cry.
@AceManning18 obviously you don't
One day NBA fans will realize that front offices and medical staffs are a part of the team too. The pacers won because they formed the deepest team in the league. Not our fault bucks put a bunch of guys around Giannis on the wrong side of thirty so he said to overdo it. Plan better.
Knicks gambled with a short rotation around older players like Bojan and injury prone guys like OG and Robinson. Instead of having those guys managed, they “Knicks gritted” themselves into the dirt. OG has missed 108 games in 4 years, and was dealing with injury this year. His workload was irresponsible. Josh hart 48 mpg was never sustainable and the same thing make you laugh will make you cry.
And the Knicks got credit for beating zombie Embid, so we need ours. We have suffered injuries from Granger, PG, Oladipo, Hali himself and even Andrew luck. And because of those instances we make sure our teams go deep. Idc about another’s teams “injury luck” because they haven’t adjusted to the reality of sports.
Finally someone said it 😭😭
Bro majority of the injuries the Knicks had were contact injuries besides OG. So this argument is already pretty shaky if you’re gonna make it
Knicks should trade Randle, Mitch, + however many picks needed for Bridges + Claxton + Schroeder. And resign Hartenstein. That's a championship 8 man rotation:
PG: Brunson
SG: Donte
SF: Bridges
PF: OG
C: Claxton
Bench: Hart, Schroeder, Hartenstein
Not sure what the numbers say but thats a win win trade for both teams.. Im sure the nets will talk themselves out of it but its an awesome trade. Good job
@Theinsideoutsider running it through fanspo draft simulator says Knicks improve +8 regular season wins.
Regardless, it adds everything the team needs and takes away nothing.
I love Randle too. But he has been inconsistent in the past, injured recently, and we've all seen what Bridges does with with the Nova 3 core they have. Claxton also healthier than Mitch on average.
@@andysauro1500 this isbt even about Randle as much as bridges is a better fit with the Knicks cuz he scores but isnt ball dominant like Randle who is a better fit with Brooklyn bcuz they dont have a true PG and could run the offense more through randle while getting multiple draft picks. Win win!
This is the dumbest thing I’ve read. Bridges doesn’t have a fraction of the gravity and passing ability that Randle creates and it takes away the teams 3 or 4th best rebounder. Also we already have a claxton level player in Robinson. That team would get destroyed against bigger teams like Minny or Milwaukee. Being a rebounding team is what made the Knicks a serious threat to the Celtics in January with 30 point blowouts against the sixers and Denver. I understand the whole ball movement argument, truly, but you lose a lot of what this teams identity is with Randle. Plus there are a lot of big men in the East that the Knicks have to deal with so having some one with rim pressure like Randle is amazing with all the current shooters they have (they’ve never had before)
Bill Simmons should not be allowed to comment on the Knicks
injuries aside let talk about the Pacers they won 35 games last year was in the draft lottery finished 2nd in that in season tournament and now in the ECF.
Lets pray for the Knicks. I think we all know whats about to happen.
Bill is drooling over Carlisle because deep-down he knows second-row joe has no idea how to make adjustments.
Is there a luckier team than the Pacers?? They faced the Bucks with the Bucks without their two top players due to injuries and played the Knicks who lost players due to injuries.
I like the Pod and Bill, but there is nobody that plays Monday morning quarterback more than Bill and also fails to recognize all the times he was wrong on NBA topics. It’s borderline insanity at this point.
I think the nba should have a intermission after the reg season .. imagine how the playoffs would look if every team was healthy a week or two off after the season so teams can be at least close to 80/90 % idk thats just me
Yeah that’s no crazy
Refs stole Game 1 from the Pacers. Everyone loves to pretend that didn't happen LOL
They were just following NBA orders. The refs tried again this game but the Pacers shot 76% and no amount of officiating could overcome that.
@@daveclark8337 along those lines you could say that the 76ers were gifted a game when Maxey travelled on his 3 pointer, and Embid wasn't suspended after the hit job on Robinson,. To me, this narrative that the knicks were given games doesnt make sense. the Knicks just played way harder in most games. that was their MO all season.
It didn’t happen
@@peterludwig7721 The NBA is all about the money and NY is the biggest market. Brunson hit Tyrese SO hard on the way to the hoop he broke his own hand and yet the refs STILL refused to call a Foul on that play.
@@daveclark8337 Brunson was fouled 8,000,000 times and did not always get calls so i think it goes all ways.
How can you say Knicks are going nowhere !? Lol if they were healthy this year with their full rotation they could have won a chip … bad take on Simmons right there.
They lost in the 2nd round, nobody gonna talk about this "run" 10 years from now 😂
Low expectations, the 76ers have lost in the second round for a decade and the Process is considered a failure. The Knicks lose in the second round twice after a decade of failure and it’s considered a rousing success.
Pacers did it all without Mathurin
Really?! lol
@@tjace45 it’s true! Knicks are dirt
Bill: "Philly will be different, but not what they were this year."
Norm: "Both?"
Bill Simmons once again had no idea how good the Knicks are when they were healthy
Everyone just forgot what happened in January
Regular season bro. Every thibs team is great in the regular season then in the playoffs it doesn’t work. Trust me as a bulls fan. Thibs team will have great moments and will be fun to watch but the ceiling is a conference final
Yes, they are hypnotically a good team and the Kings are what ifs. Enjoy Cancun
@@kyserrylee6909 dude they were like +200 when Randle, OG, and Brunson were on the court
It was gonna translate to playoffs
Nembhard hit a lucky three, but pacers also got called for that ghost kick in game 1. you can't just say it could have easily been 3-0 knicks. it should have been 2-1 pacers
26:31 if Randle plays you can’t do that because now you’re leaving a 25 and 10 Guy unguarded. Randle would’ve bullied him like he did last year and this season. Plus Og or his agent said h3 would resign with any team but if the Knicks was the team he would take less money
Pacers in the title and people just REFUSE to give Indy their roses or even a shred of credibility.
Knicks simply ran out of bullets. This off season will be interesting. Do the Knicks extend Julius Randle with another 4 year deal at $191M? Do the Knicks overpay OG Anunoby with $25M/season? He’s making me think about injuries. Hartenstein wants a bag of money 💰 Mitchell Robinson injuries are starting to concern. Knicks need size, another ball handler. How do they address the needs?
i wonder if the knicks head coach has a history of running players into the ground over the course of his career as a head coach, someone should look that up.
What about Thibs pushing the players all season with a limited rotation and everyone breaking down as a result? I think he shoulders some responsibility here. Didn’t he break Derrick Rose from overuse and shorten his prime? The NBA is too rigorous for people to be playing balls to the wall defense for 40+ minutes a game like Hart, or carrying the offense as the only option like Brunson.
spot on, we just couldn't use the bench for some reason, must have been a reason, but Thibs, I don't know
Are there two other men that enjoy hearing themselves talk more than these two SMH. Haliburton is the definition of a "frontrunner"
bill: "rick showed the pacers video of them not diving to get loose balls, what a job by rick."
The Pacers had awful injury luck during the season. Now they have benefitted from another team's injury bug. Good for them
pathetic. Maybe Rick was just smart enough to not play 5 guys over 45 minutes a night? is that luck?
@@UserNo1000 The Knicks can hold their heads high. We all saw it
@@UserNo1000 Who was being played 45 minutes a night?
@@THE_BEAR_JEW Brunson, Hart, Divo, OG were all averaging close to that in the first 8 postseason games, some of them north of it like Hart who played 10 consecutive quarters before his abdominal muscles strained and took him out of game 6
@@UserNo1000 Sorry for the lengthy post below, but there's no way to go through this in 2 lines of text.
Divo was not averaging anywhere close to 45 MPG. He had one game in the 76ers series where he played 48 minutes. Most of the series he actually played under 30. He's played 45 or more just that one game.
OG played 45 minutes or more 3 times (one being that OT game vs the 76ers). The rest of the time he's been mostly 42 minutes or less.
Bruson has played 45 or more 2 times (one being that OT game also). The rest of the time he's been at 43 or less. Again, in line with other stars. Brunson was played over 40 minutes like 6 times all season btw.
I think we can all agree Hart has played the most. His minutes before Game 4 of the Pacers series were crazy high, and his minutes need to come down for sure. He's the one who has been overplayed. The others have not. That said, Hart's overuse does not extend to the entire season and the other guys weren't overused in the regular season or the postseason.
I'm not gonna get on Thibs when I'm seeing Kobe's average minutes per postseason game from age 22 to age 28 are 43 or higher. MJ averaged almost 42 minute per playoff game for his career. Dirk from age 23 to age 29 was at around 42.5 MPG. Iverson is at over 45 MPG for his career. LeBron has ton of postseason where he's at 42 minutes a game. Shaq in his prime was averaging 40 MPG at least. Duncan and KG until age 27 were doing a minimum of 40 mpg on average. Bird through the entire 80s was out there averaging a minimum of 40 MPG. Kareem was playing 43-47 MPG playoffs until age 33. Those happened because there were many games where yeah, you would have to play your star nearly the whole game. It's just odd to get on a coach today for doing that when it's been normal forever, especially when you wanna make a deep run and you may not be fully healthy as a team.
Haliburton is injured, and sometimes can barely walk away from a post-game press conference. Looks like my grandpa getting up from dinner table. That's why he won't shoot sometimes, Back condition (genetic), but back spasms & Hammy. He's going to have to suck it up for Game one in Boston
The trades at the deadline were boring and insignificant. Really? Three teams (Indiana, Dallas, and OG) made trades that landed them in the conference finals, Without making these trades, none of these team makes it. We are in a different era. You still (probably) need a superstar, sure, but it seems to be about plugging any holes on your team and getting the right fit, right balance etc.Not sure this is best description, But there is a lesson from the trade deadline for sure.
the pacers are learning how to win. i expect them to give boston a better series than all the “analysts” think
You’re right. It could be Celtics in six instead of five.
They barely beat a team with 3 of 4 top players injured or compromised final 3 games Brunson their best injured. Acting like Indiana showed anything there is a lazy and poor analysis
@@WarrenFranceSportsNetworkright the Knicks were starting 4 guards the whole series
@@nocturne311 5 instead of 4. Pacers play no defense. Celtics have a similar quality defense to a healthier Knicks team, with a higher caliber offense. Celtics beat themselves more than other teams beat them.
The Pacers coaches better turn their IQ's up to einstein level and find a way to use Turner and Siakam to have any type of chance. Even as a Knicks fan I hope they beat Boston but i highly doubt it.
After watching this and neither of these guys having a clue about the Pacers clearly ….. BEAT THE FUCKING CELTICS!!
i said all along -- knicks had NO BUSINESS being the 2 seed. absolutely no business. they overachieved to the Nth degree
You overachieve when you have HORRIBLE players but still win.. the Knicks are filled with ballers .. not scrubs ..
This is such cap knicks win that series in 6 possibly 5 with the full roster
Yeah, pretty much.
I like the team but they were 29-4 vs teams below .500 and 21-28 vs teams above .500. That's not good for a 2 seed. The only playoff team with a worse winning percentage against teams above .500 was Orlando.
Basically they blew their load chasing the two seed
Everything after the end of the regular season was just pure will and mental fortitude, it’s amazing they even got this far
Siakam has been really good this playoffs.
The Knicks still haven’t been to an ECF since ‘99.
Bing Bong!
They made it in 2000
As long as you don't count 2000
Even as a Knicks fan, this team always felt a little like fools gold. Lots of good pieces, not really a ton of great ones.
We were 30-5 when og played. Even without Randle we were incredible when even fairly healthy. We’re gonna be good again next year whether or not we trade Randle.
No way they throw in Randle. He's the bully that we need to get a chip. Let's go Knicks!
Randle has never showed up in the playoffs, dudes 17 a game on like 34% from the field in the 15 career playoff games he’s played.
Maybe pacers will get credit if they are competitive with Boston. Mind you they did not play once with spicy P. Injuries are part of the game and I get it they had some good luck but they beat Giannis 4 out of 5 without P and it has been impressive the way their D stepped up in the playoffs but it’s always cause of the other teams not what they are doing
Not one mention of missing randle all season. 25 and 10 every night and hes so undervalued
Because they were so much better without him. Randle is awful
@@crambo765GTFOH. Missing an all nba player is bad for any team. We just found a rotation that works is all.
@@crambo765 also because he’s horrible in the playoffs. Dudes laid an egg in almost every playoff game he’s ever played in
I don’t really see how the pacers defend boston if they are making their jump shots. But if no Porzingis and they don’t shoot well on jumpers then the Pacers can blow Boston out. Pacers have the better home court advantage and they are technically deeper besides wing defenders. Hope the Pacers win just bc watching Boston is so boring compared to every other team and it’s not even close. Hopefully if they lose they will blow it up and trade Brown for Trae or Spider.
LFG spicy p baby! 🌶️
Lebron?!?! He’s been playing 75% of the season for 10 years
It’s crazy how all these shows are Knicks Knicks Knicks ….. the Pacers took 2 games from Boston this season and probably should have won the last game. If Boston doesn’t have a Porzingis healthy … which he almost never is … You’ve got trouble. They may not win… but they are capable of being the boogeyman…
So much Knickriding from all these talking heads. Giving Pacers no credit for playing amazing and winning.
What? They went on about the pacers making every shot possible and setting an insane record. At the same time you have to acknowledge the Knicks were super hurt
LOL they literally can't stop singing the praises of the Pacers and talking about how the Knicks came up short. But nice job coining the Knick ride.
Lol dudes spent 5 mins on SIAKAM. I don't even think he talks about himself that much
Pacers match up well wth Boston
They beat a depleted Knicks team that's all they credit for other than that Knicks fully healthy would've swept them....
My head says that Boston should win in 5. But its Boston and my heart says that the Pacers make this a series. Help me please Conspiracy Bill
pacers play ZERO defense. the knicks were gassed by the end of this series. they're not superhuman. they're not robots. Hart literally played every minute of multiple games this postseason. The whole friggin team was injured. It would've been fascinating to see how the series would've gone with the knicks at full strength.
if i'm being brutally honest though -- i don't know that this team is championship ready yet. i think they might still be missing a piece. i LOOOOOVE brunson, but he's short. when's the last time a team won a chip when their best player was under 6'3"? he's incredible but they're asking him to shoulder too much of the load. they also desperately need depth.
We destroy the Pacers with a healthy roster easily but your right we still need that big trade to put us to championship level without completeky dismantling the chemistry weve built.
Pacers had a plan and stuck to it. Not their fault people got injured. No mercy just keep pushing the pace until Thibs plays his players to death
“Knicks at full strength” will not be a possibility when Thibodeau is coaching
Regular season games are treated like playoff games
Pacers gotta be the worst team to make a conference finals in a decade. Or tied with that atl team
How is pascal only a top 60 guy? Is bill serious?
Calm down Pacers. No team in the NBA can win a game with 5 of their top 6 players injured, much less in the playoffs.
regarding Dallas, if they can carry the Game 6 referee crew into the 2025 season....they will go 82-0 in 2025,.
“We want Boston” curse strikes again. Just don’t do it.
Thibs overworking his starters. Bulls T’Wolves and now Knicks, Injures seem to always kill his teams.
You could only really say this for Hart, who was only playing so many minutes out of necessity because of the Bojan, Randle and OG injuries. It’s a very lazy narrative, Thibs ran a normal 9 man rotation all season. Even starting Taj Gibson when we had injuries. It’s the playoffs, everyone cuts their rotation down.
Nah. That's an ancient narrative but he didn't do that in the regular season. Freackishly bad level of injuries.
No, people jump in during the playoffs and don't follow the regular season, so they just assume the narrative is gospel. Thibs has been doing good this year with that. The others already commented with accurate explanations.
STILL, he is diabolical if just at his other stops🤣
Bill are you series right now? Every NBA player can shoot lights out when there's no DEFENSE! They played a shell of an NBA team forget that they were Knicks...
Bill “Thin blue line” Simmons😆
Knicks need 1 more elite playmaker and scorer, so Brunson can get some relief. They have great shooter and role players all over, great dirty work guys, and excellent coaching. They are that 1 piece away. Oddly enough, there is 1 player who can opt out and become a FA and sign there if he really wants another ring. That player is Lebron. Love him or hate him, he is exactly what they need and they have a coach he would respect and listen to for once. Adding LeBron to this Knicks team would make them the favorite to win for sure. Brunson has to do too much of the playmaking and the others can't really get their own shot consistently. Not saying it will happen, but it makes all the sense in the world for both Lebron and the Knicks. If he went there and won a ring or 2 w that franchise, he could definitley have a stronger GOAT argument and he would be a legend in NY. They have not won since the 70's. He should sign there if he really wants to win, Lakers are going nowhere,
Sorry bro but neither Knicks or LeBron has ANY interest in this
@@MaChao2 You are probably right, but it would make sense for both sides on many levels. Lebron seems to want to be in LA more than trying to win again and the Knicks would probably only do it if he signed for a minimum deal there which he would never do. But they would win a ring with him there I think, that team is one piece away and he provides them everything they are missing.
Has thier been more of a cakewalk to the finals then Boston has been gifted this season in recent memory? Playing an 8th seed, 4th seed and now a 6th seed.
Same Boston team who lost to an 8th seed a couple years ago. Gonna be funny when the pacers pull off the upset
THE KNICKS WILL GET DEMAR DEROZAN THIS SUMMER! KEEP MOST LF THE SWUAD TOGETHER AND SIGN DEROZAN. BOJAN IS OUTTA HERE TO MAKE THE CAP SPACE!
Close your curtain, Bill.
The Knicks need a bench and to stay healthy. KD would be a death sentence for this group.
We have a Bench stop speaking on my team if u don’t watch the games…what’s wrong with u casuals?
Deuce, hart, and hartenstein were off the bench role players in the regular season. They started for a decent amount of the season bc of injuries
Conspiracy Bill
Free throws for series
Knicks 173
Pacers 113
That’s because of the way Brunson plays. He’s shifty and game is built on drawing fouls
@@banditonehundred I would get that but so many ghost calls he got. If you watched the series a lot of and 1s had no contact.
Which brings me to say that Knicks are not physical team talk if they are getting this many whistles
@@tellhand3917 yeah, he’s a dirty player like prime Harden, just not as good
You know the pacers had the biggest free throw disparity in the NBA. It might just be that the pacers don’t draw fouls or score in the paint as often in half court offense.
@@angelmercedes2029 nah, we just didn't get any whistles. It was not an even called series and we should've got a chance to win game one.
Bill just loves to hate the Knicks it’s Hilarious how dumb he makes things
Can we talk about Haliburton traveling like a mf on some of these “step backs”? Really poor footwork that wasn’t called out.
you really want to bring the refs up? go look at the free throw disparity, go look at the number of called turnovers, it wasn’t even close. Go away with these uneducated opinions
Can we talk about how Brunson hit Haliburton hard enough to fracture his own hand, and it still wasn't called a foul?
they don't call travels in the nba lol
Listen, the pacers took the refs out of the game, that was the difference.
Every year it’s “ the east will be better” blah blah. So will the knicks 🤡. Dame will be older. And his falloff started this year. Embid injured EVERY year.
Bill looks very bored in anticipating playing the Pacers. I wonder how he feels about facing Dallas/Minny in the finals.
If I was him I’d be worried about both those teams. I don’t think Boston can beat Minnesota and idk about Dallas. Luke and kyrie always seem to do amazing things when the lights are the brightest
@@jeremyroberts8822Tatum averaged 38 points on 50%+ shooting against Minnesota this season and the Wolves won the first meeting in Minnesota in OT (Boston didn’t have White) while Boston won the second meeting in Boston in OT (Boston didn’t have Porzingis and Minnesota didn’t have Gobert or Conley). I know defeating the Nuggets makes the Wolves seem like the favorites, but that’s lot necessarily the case. Styles make fights, as they say, and as Jokic said in his postgame presser, Minnesota is built to beat Denver. That doesn’t mean they’re built to beat or will matchup as well with Dallas or Boston for that matter though. As far as the Mavs are concerned, Boston defeated them both times they played and blew them out in the second game. Everyone is underrating the Celtics right now due to their issues in previous postseasons and their easier schedule thus far, but there’s a reason this team finished with a historically good net rating.
Celtics to win the next two series in 5
Love it Knicks sucks Let’s go Nets
Let's be honest, the league carried the Knicks through the playoffs because the team is good for business. Game 2 vs the sixers removed all doubt about that. It was only going to work for so long with a team this bad.
I think that's such a lame ass response. The 76ers shot more free throws for the series. If Joel Embiid shot better than 6/36 from the field in Q4, the 76ers would have been playing against the Pacers.
if that was true, then Embid would have been suspended. The refs also missed Maxey's travel on that three-pointer that tied one of the games in the last minute. the narrative you are pitching just does not hold up. The knicks had plenty of games where they were unable to play the way they wanted to because of the whistle. They didn't complain, they just played. The pacers shouldn't have talked sh*t because they are not that good. the Celtics are going to crush them because the Pacers can't play defense.
Pacers gunna get swept and This is coming from a Boston hater
As a Knicks fan cant root for Indiana or Boston so LETS GO WOLVES!!!
Surprise surprise. A thibs team that succumbs to injuries and loses on the playoffs. 😅😅 Plays his dudes too many minutes
Honestly, the Pacers should’ve won this series in less than 7 games. They were clearly the more healthy team and they had 2 of the 3 best players in the series.
Knicks are the worst franchise in the NBA, they won 3 playoff series in 25 years. The pacers dropped them in 2 of those seasons. Keep crying about injuries, no teams are 100%.
why are all the comments about the Knicks? Bill just said the Pacers were "awesome" like 5000 times
OG coming off the bench was never a choice
You forgot who coaches this team 😂
Don't sleep on Naptown! Celtics can be got at home. Pacers undefeated in playoffs at home. No KP games 1,2 & maybe even 3. Adding Siakim is a big deal guarding Tatum and Brown.
It obvious Brunson was hurt before the hand, giving credit the Pacer defense ugh and saying Knicks won’t be good next year when their whole starting line up was hurt , amateur takes guys
All the Knicks needed was Anunoby and the Pacers were toast. They were a Nemhard shot in game 3 away from potentially being swept. And in Game 3, the Knicks were without Anunoby. Even Bogdanovic changes this series. They didn’t even have him. It was just the lazy Pacers coming out hot in game 7 and the Knicks having nothing left to give.
yeah the Pacers are lazy for going to MSG for a game 7 and crushing the Knicks
i don't know if i would say the Pacers were lazy, i just think they are deep and talented and didn't miss a shot. The knick just did not have enough talent left after the injuries, not enough energy to really compete and play defense the way they want to
If my aunt had wheels she’d be a bicycle.
Facts…but these idiots won’t admit it
@@hargism249 which Knicks? The Knicks had 4 players out of their lineup, with two more players compromised. I said the Pacers were lazy because the Knicks were compromised from Game 1 on and the Pacers still struggled. Put your Pom poms down… the Knicks were missing about 55 points and 30 rebounds in injuries.
Bill is just such a soft p word when talks Knicks
Celtic fans scared
LOVE that these cats not fanboys...cant be delusional about the Cs..
Go pacers .
Two guys who suck at basketball talking about basketball
All of the knicks injuries fucked them. They would have destroyed the pacers if every knick was healthy. Celtics in 4
All I need is a million dollars and I'll be a millionaire
Finally a comment that makes sense.🫡
For the 'NEW' Knicks fans (you know who you are), given the way you overcompensated for your bandwagon jumping with your overall playoff conduct, I hope it hurts...and stings all summer.
I saw Jason Bateman sitting courtside in Game 7 and I know he's a Lakers and Dodgers fan.
Knicks were playing with half a team. Period.