What you need before buying a BMW E39 in Malaysia | EvoMalaysia.com
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- Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2018
- The BMW E39 5 Series is often reputed as an expensive and unreliable car to maintain. Is it true? Doesn't seem so in my month's plus of ownership.
Have learned a few things along the way and more to learn in the coming months and years. Here's what I figured you need to know before putting your money down on one.
I've found the following channels extremely useful in learning more about maintaining my E39:
- Bimmer Zeit: / @bimmerzeitt
- Nathan's DIY Garage: / nathan780409
- E39 Source: / e39source
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Thank goodness you managed to get out of the X70!
It took some effort.
One has to accept the fact that if we want to buy German performance cars, it will come with a maintenance cost. Imagine getting a BMW E39 for about 30K as in my case I got a 525, maintenance is part of owning a car. Comparatively if we buy an 8 year old Toyota Camry or Honda Accord, it will not be much cheaper and I can assure you that the spare parts are not cheap as well. If we look at just getting a good car in shape for use in the foreseeable 4 - 5 years for a price less than a MYVI then it is actually a good deal. The biggest issue with BMWs is the cooling system and you would need to change the 2 manifold water pipes which is hidden from view and the 4 air hoses at the oil separator location. The total cost of these hoses is about RM 1000+ and with labour would cost another RM 600 or so. These hoses need to be changed as it will leak water and sir which will give rise to cooling issues as well as power related issue. These are typical of M54 engines and after a good preventive maintenance, you will be able to get about 75 - 80% of the efficiency at about 14% of the original price. Budget about RM 2000 - 2500 per year for maintenance which is reasonable for a 16 year old car. I have a E46 and E39 and so far if has performed well and relatively trouble free except for wear and tear replacement. Don't bother to overhaul the engine when it is rough, best to change into a used Japanese engine (plenty around) which has clocked about 80K from the chop chop shop and they are pretty good. Gear box oil should be changed preferably about 35K km and use the gearbox oil from BMW from Bavarian Auto and your gear box will be alright. The lifetime warranty of the gearbox from BMW only covers 100k miles only and if you do not change the gearbox oil as recommended by Bavarian Auto then you are looking at about RM 2000 - 2500 for a used Japanese gearbox and labor about RM 900 to change it. Sounds scary but these are maintenance cost when we buy an old BMW and refurbish it to use with the related performance of a BMW.
Always so informative. Thanks!
Nice upload Kon! I agree it’s important to join the community for DIY tips and help, all part of the journey.
Thanks! Your uploads have been greatly helpful. Looking forward to try your DIY fixes!
I bought a 49000km 99 e39 m52tu.
Havimg a blast. Plan to to drive it via the trilateral highway in coming months.
Thx for bringing up the DISA Valve. Never knew about it owning the care for 5 years.
5 years already? Definitely a good time to check yours
Thanks Kon for this great review... im currently driving a 4 series... but after watching this review... ill be getting a 525 2002 .... it does sound better than the new 2 ltr turbos...can recommend me anyone in wernes for a checkup.... n i live probably around your place too..... keep up the great work. Always enjoy your clips
Currently, Wearnes charges a fee for their inspection. It's still a fair price to pay for peace of mind, but stay tuned, we are working on a new arrangement.
Love the grunt of the engine.
Not much in the way of grunt la, really, but the engine is smooth
Thanks for your advice as I am about to purchase one similar model at 9800rm.
Good hunting!
Wow..you have been making quite a few rounds around your house area in this video
My usual video recording route. Haha.
Great video Kon, but im curious, why are you driving in the same route over and over again?
It's the most convenient. Hah.
I got my license recently and collecting my Honda City car tomorrow 😁😁😁
Congrats!
1st haha
Edit: will they be going up in price soon ? Also super cute baby haha
Won't mind if they inch up. Haha.
Hi Kon, I the owner E39 528i 2001 couple year's go,but now I have to know where workshop better I sent to repair the all about suspension.
hi, I live in Jakarta. I heard there is a lot of E39 parts in Malaysia, is that true?
for example, I am looking for M5 retract mirror
Hi Kon, i'm interested to buy a E34. Do you have any advice? Thanks
Hi Kon.
I drive a 2002 E39 525i. Thinking of freshening up the interior a bit. Could you share where I can get brushed silver interior trims to replace the original wood effect ones?
Have to look through Facebook for used sets.
👌😎
So if the fluid hasn’t been replaced, and gets replaced, how often should it be replaced in the future? It’s interesting that the ATF replacement is still very controversial for the modern BMWs as well. I am still 50/50 on it, especially now that I am closing in on the 60k mark.
I think the general story of the BMWs being expensive to run etc is definitely blown out of proportion. A lot of the cases where expensive repairs were needed was because of the fact that prior owners did not properly conduct the periodic maintenance or skimped around and tried to cut corners. Yes it is less forgiving than a Toyota but if you followed the required maintenance from the book, they are actually very much reliable cars and surprisingly more economical in some aspects, like fuel consumption than an equivalent size and engined Japanese or Korean alternative.
If your car is based in Malaysia, I say change it. But in Canada, it might be something you can skim on. As long as the ATF is not subject to severe heat or stop/go traffic, the oil does not degrade so severely.
In any case, there's a reason why they still put a drain plug in the transmission casing.
Another thing is that the DISA valve needs to be checked as the original comes with a plastic flap and pin and if the pin snap, the DISA valve flap will fall into the engine. You can buy a China made replacement for about RM 300 or order a repair kit for about RM 350 which comes with an aluminium flap and a stainless steel pin. The Vanos seal need to be changed every 80K km and most of the units are worn out. Likewise you can order the seals to replace them. After these replacements, the low end torque of the E39 and E49 will improve tremendously and you will feel what it is to drive a BMW
Interesting that you raised the topic of the DISA valve and cooling system today. Just got both fixed recently and finishing up the video edit. I was seriously considering the X8R DISA valve repair kit you mentioned, but upon opening it, found that the valve totally couldnt sustain suction. The flap was soft like jelly and must be replaced. Opted for a brand new ori unit. Painful on the wallet, but far greater peace of mind now.
sounds like most "problems" such as suspension arms, bushes, water pump, hoses, you mentioned are basically normal wear and tear stuff similar to Mercedes W124
Yup. You are right.
Hi Kon. i have an E90 320i Msport. spent alot of money over the last 4 years of owning it. no modification and purely just upkeeping it. however recently i have noticed an increase in fuel consumption. may i know whats your fuel consumption like?
I've been getting around 13-14 l/100km.
Mind sharing some of the costs that you've been facing? Are they routine maintenance items or flaws?
Kon, I am going to buy an E39 soon...mainly due to the influence of your video, Ha! Ha!....where do you go to now to maintain your E39? I will need to send it to for inspection and maintenance later. Your help will be much appreciated. Thank you.
how much are they going for these days?
can share some information about the F30 2nd hand? is it more a less the same as the E39? thank you :)
you mean G30 or maybe E60? E39 is a 5 series. F30 is a 3 series. E39 is 3 generation older.
Hi the intention is to know more about the expected extra expenses on 2nd hand BMW thank you
Go lookup forums for advice e.g bimmerpost, f30 forum etc. Wealth of info there rather than asking here.
I understand that the F30 is pretty reliable, but parts prices, I not 100% sure la.
Ping me if you are interested to learn more about e39 ownership and experience. I have bought and owned it for 5 years. Inheritance from my uncle. Still have it and restored to 80% I would say.
Hi Koon.. just wanted to know how did you get your child seat in since most e39 doesn't come with isofix.. did you do a retrofit on it? Or maybe yours did come with an isofix
If you look hard enough some UK spec E39s do come with ISOFIX. They were optional in Europe at the time, and it really depends if the first owner specced it into the car. I personally encountered one such car during my hunting phase but its condition was unsatisfactory. As for mine, local spec, no ISOFIX, so use belt installation
@@KonWaiLuen thanks man. Yes. I'm currently on belt as well .
Kon, how many rounds of same road u drive ur e39 to complete this video?
Haha. Count and see?
a better no-nonsense presentation style vs your peer.. keep it up!
Thanks for watching!
你好，请问一下我想入手 2003年的e39 530i 需要注意些什么？价钱在rm 23000
RM23k for a 530i is a damn good price. E39 530i, if it was original 530i from factory, is quite rare in Malaysia due to its high cc. There are a lot of 530i in the market converted from 520i and may not have engine endorsed, thus complicating ownership transfer.
There are quite a lot of experts capable of doing the conversion well, however, so your mechanic should still watch out for the same common problems of this car.... cooling system, DISA valve, ATF, oil leaks, etc.
@@KonWaiLuen 谢谢你。
Cukai jalan mahal. Menghalang saya dari membeli E90 325 tahun lepas. Jadi saya beli E90 320i. Insuran pulak lagi teruk. Saya nak insurankan RM37K. Harga beli RM37.5K. Semua insuran nak RM40k.
Saya punya 520i nilai insuran RM22k.
Ok... Let's do a drive together with whatever I will be buying soon.
Faster buy lor!
Is there manual transmission for e39 in Malaysia??
There are. But mostly are converted from auto. Interestingly, I have seen more manual E60s than E39s.
@@KonWaiLuen did f10 have manual transmission?
There was an F10 523i UK spec with MT on the used car market last year. It's probably the only unit in Malaysia
Hi Kon. Just wanted to know if you have any recommendations for a good and reliable secondhand car dealers as I am looking to offload my car to get another car. Currently driving a Nissan Almera Manual. Looking for a smaller car. Kindly appreciate the feesback
Driving around ss5 ehhh...i have an e39...ss3 neighbour here
Eh nice! Is yours the silver M Sport car always parked at 3/14?
@@KonWaiLuen nah but close by...red color mate
Remember to flash your lights if you see me.
First 30 seconds in and I know the answer. Money, money and money.
Having a bit of knowledge will reduce the mmoney required
V6 or Inline 6 ?
Inline 6
If plan to sell, sell to me please hahaha
so which one is better？520？525？530？
530i the best la, if dont mind 2k/year road tax. Otherwise, 525i. Problem is there are fewer units of the 525i to choose from la. Most of the better condition E39s are 520i.
The 528i had the best praises and review in all car mags during its time
525i is the best because roadtax only 8XX only compare to 530i which is 2XXX. best engine is M54B25 which is year 2002 and above.
More likely you need 15 - 20 K standby if you want to redo your car after purchasing it.
10k can get by la. But 15k gives you room to work on more preventive maintenance stuff.
Bro, thanks so much for your very informative videos on E39's , recently bought my dad a 2003 E39 525i, you mentioned WhatsApp E39 group, is it possible to add me or PM the group number bro, thanks so much.
Why is it not a good idea to purchase a car thru personal loan ???
Firstly u need money and a house to parked it.
This video assumes you have those.
I just saw a fake #kon youtube channel @konwailuen
That other channel is actually former Evo team member Keegan. He left just before I joined, so his credentials were transferred to me. Didn't realized it rebranded his channel. Still figuring how to sort that.
@@KonWaiLuen okay.. glad you aware about it. Cheers. Dont forget to leave your email so subscribers and viewers can email you.
This is so stupid... You don't show the car features or anything but just listening to your talk... This is not how you do a review. You show the car and its feature. If I want to listen to your opinion, I can do it myself. Look at how we do it in the US! Geez... =P
Go do it yourself then.
@@KonWaiLuen IF I did, I would way better than this shit... Can't take criticism, you should be off the site
Well.... go ahead and do it. Otherwise it's just empty talk mate.
@@KonWaiLuen Empty talk is still better than your shitty talk
Love your reply, mate. Brings back fond memories of how my friends and I used to argue when were schoolboys. Brought a tear in me eye.