A little late but I think that you do not take the mob item effect into account but only their dice on the enemy phase? Since the setup only shows the attack die of the mob item while under the mob card.
Just tried to play this with my son and trying to follow all the things in the rules is not easy. I think in the long run it will be great with all the abilities once you get used to it. But I wish we had watched your tutorial first. I appreciate you making corrections in editing also. So many things to keep track of! Subscribed.
I am little late to the party, but this was a great tutorial demo. I want to get into RPG dungeon crawlers, but they are typically overwhelming due to the amount of content or they are really expensive or both. This seems reasonable all around. Thanks
I'm new to your channel but have watched a couple of videos so far and really enjoy your easy-going style as well as how clearly you explain things. It's so helpful watching playthroughs like this to get a sense of what it would be like to play myself before making the decision to fork over big old wad of cash!
This game is so daunting as a painting project because you never really know which minis you need to have painted for a given game. Bardsung has specific monsters for each chapter, so it's easy to be like, "I'll paint everything for the first few chapters" and get on with your life. ;)
@JayPlays And Bardsung and Massive Darkness 2 arriving at my house one after the other ... I'm getting on with my life. I'm done with miniature games. Wait, what's that on KickStarter!?! I'm back. ;)
Thanks for putting together this playthrough. After watching Ive decided this isnt the game for me. Thanks for helping me save the $80-100 on this game
@28:19 I didnt think weapon skills were applicable to mobs? I think the only thing you use from the weapons for mobs is the damage type (range, magic or melee) and number of dice rolled
@@DaletheCasualGamer yeah interesting, reading the rules again it doesn't outright state it. However in all the images they show the mob weapon card required under the e mob so that it would be covering where weapon skill is. Definitely an interesting difficulty modifier either way
@@harmarize I know it's been months. On page 17, under Spawn Enemies, it says to place the Mob Item under the Mob card so that only the bottom part of the Mob Item is visible. This with, as you said, the example images only showing the dice visible under the Mob Card leads me to agree with your initial comment about not using the weapon skills.
It was an extra in the kickstarter campaign, but now GameGenic is selling them as token trays ...www.gamegenic.com/product/token-silo-convertible/?attribute_pa_color=green-lime Happy gaming! :)
@@DaletheCasualGamer One question I had from the video: Do mobs get the ability from their equipped weapon? The rules don't seem to say anything about this, other than they cannot gain mana.
@@Spyryt193 That is what the rulebook seems to indicate. Though allowing for them to use a weapon ability could definitely add a layer of interesting difficulty
was gonna play this tonight but after spending *two hours* setting up the game we realized we were missing some pieces and had to put it off till another time till we found the pieces
@Dazir Studios Thanks for watching! A guy in our game group played the necromancer, and it was fun to have the enemies rise from the dead and fight for us! :)
31:44 A bit confused about this. It says in the guide "Each Enemy minature: 1XP to the Hero that killed it". However the mob leader is not a minature and so I don't think that you should be adding the 1 extra experience plus the 2 XP to everyone else. It should just be 2 XP to everyone I feel (at least to the other character that didn't land the killing blow). That's it :)
Where does it state mob leaders are not miniatures? Page 4 shows enemy miniatures which includes minions, leaders, roaming monsters and bosses. Page 20, ... For each enemy miniature killed, the attacking Hero gains 1 experience. If the killed miniature is a Mob Leader or Roaming Monster, all Heroes gain ADDITIONAL experience: 2 for mob leaders and 4 for roaming monsters. Hope that helps, and happy gaming!
@hypnotoad55 Thanks for watching! There were a few 3D sets for Massive Darkness that included doors, traps, and chests. Totally worth it as I can use them for RPGs too. :)
At 31:09 you did the after combat recover from the shadow power. I believe the says "every" hero so the ranger should have gotten that opportunity also.
Excellent! Thanks for sharing. I didn't back the KS, but have a copy on the way. I made the purchase after Tom Vasel raved about it! Also, I see your heroes are painted. Awesome job!
@Tony Bowers I painted some, but so far away from the entire game. I think I may have reached my limit for painting this year ... oh look, Marvel United X-Men just arrived at the door! lol Glad Tom Vasel and I agree on this game! I haven't delved into the campaign yet, but having a blast with the one-shots, and so has my game group. :)
I love the player plasticity thing. Sure I can think of a number of ways to improve upon it but taking player convenience into account during design is a plus. All those cards need a card holder cathedral of some sort and a smaller rack for the player. It’s a good old dungeon crawl. Speed leveling! That will keep my player interest high. The dice will take some getting used to what with rerolls and such but that hopefully comes with a couple of adventures. Overall I’m very positive but would like to see something other than a skirmish.
@@DaletheCasualGamer You ask that while I’m suffocating under MU shrink wrap? I was given permission to agree to the pub we visited this evening. I have a reception at the same time boardlandia is having their sale next week. She thought that was endlessly amusing.
For my learning style, this is easily the best how to play for this game on the internet! Thanks again, Dale
You're very welcome! And hope your adventure goes well! :)
Same.
A little late but I think that you do not take the mob item effect into account but only their dice on the enemy phase? Since the setup only shows the attack die of the mob item while under the mob card.
Thank you for this tutorial. I'm having some hard times playing and reading guide book for a ameri games. So this video was very helpful for me.
Just tried to play this with my son and trying to follow all the things in the rules is not easy. I think in the long run it will be great with all the abilities once you get used to it. But I wish we had watched your tutorial first. I appreciate you making corrections in editing also. So many things to keep track of! Subscribed.
Lots of rules for sure, but you don't need to get them all right to have fun! :)
I am little late to the party, but this was a great tutorial demo. I want to get into RPG dungeon crawlers, but they are typically overwhelming due to the amount of content or they are really expensive or both. This seems reasonable all around. Thanks
I'm new to your channel but have watched a couple of videos so far and really enjoy your easy-going style as well as how clearly you explain things. It's so helpful watching playthroughs like this to get a sense of what it would be like to play myself before making the decision to fork over big old wad of cash!
Thanks for watching, and glad to help with games!
This game is so daunting as a painting project because you never really know which minis you need to have painted for a given game. Bardsung has specific monsters for each chapter, so it's easy to be like, "I'll paint everything for the first few chapters" and get on with your life. ;)
@JayPlays And Bardsung and Massive Darkness 2 arriving at my house one after the other ... I'm getting on with my life. I'm done with miniature games. Wait, what's that on KickStarter!?! I'm back. ;)
@@DaletheCasualGamer I've heard all that before!
Same as for Middara ;-)
Thanks for putting together this playthrough. After watching Ive decided this isnt the game for me. Thanks for helping me save the $80-100 on this game
Glad to save you some money! :)
As a visual learner, this was an incredible help. Thank you.
wonderful playthrough with comprehensible summary as always👍👍👍
Thanks for watching! :)
Just landed on this channel searching for MD2 videos. Nice video this one and also congrats for the large amount of videos. Such great games.
@28:19 I didnt think weapon skills were applicable to mobs? I think the only thing you use from the weapons for mobs is the damage type (range, magic or melee) and number of dice rolled
@harmarize I'm not totally sure, I don't recall the rules specifically stating one way or the other, so if it worked, I used it. :)
@@DaletheCasualGamer yeah interesting, reading the rules again it doesn't outright state it. However in all the images they show the mob weapon card required under the e mob so that it would be covering where weapon skill is. Definitely an interesting difficulty modifier either way
Maybe use MD 1 rules where the Mob can only attack/react based on weapon type.
@@harmarize I know it's been months. On page 17, under Spawn Enemies, it says to place the Mob Item under the Mob card so that only the bottom part of the Mob Item is visible. This with, as you said, the example images only showing the dice visible under the Mob Card leads me to agree with your initial comment about not using the weapon skills.
This is the only game where you level down. From level minus one to minus five
And in campaign play, it will go to minus 10! :)
Hello, what can you do with mana with the Berserker?
Hi Dale, thanks for this quick tutorial! Helped me understand the flow better and learn the game as I play.
Hey, where did you get your yellow/orange token organizer? Love how that one looks.
It came with the all-in pledge. Not sure if GameGenic will do a retail release for this, but I bet it would be popular!
Love your videos Dale! Your channel is always my first to go for how to play and we have similar tastes!
@Brian Knouse Good to know we both have great tastes in games! ;)
Hopefully gonna play it today, I also have the MD 1 kit.
Have fun!! I’m really enjoying the game and have the conversion kits for MD1 and Zombicide. :)
@@DaletheCasualGamer Thanks. Massive Darkness is my favorite game.
Does the insert come with the game?
good stuff Dale... too much stuff and too little time... good luck with trying to play it all...
I'll need more than luck for that! :)
love your tutorials/playthrus :). in this video you have that yellowish tray on upper left… where did you get that?
It was an extra in the kickstarter campaign, but now GameGenic is selling them as token trays ...www.gamegenic.com/product/token-silo-convertible/?attribute_pa_color=green-lime
Happy gaming! :)
just picked this up yesterday, I'm loving it so far. But I'm gonna need a bigger table
@Moby You and me both on that table problem! lol
@@DaletheCasualGamer One question I had from the video: Do mobs get the ability from their equipped weapon? The rules don't seem to say anything about this, other than they cannot gain mana.
@@jobodumb No. The equipped weapon is only for the type (melee, ranged, magic) and which dice they will roll.
@@Spyryt193 That is what the rulebook seems to indicate. Though allowing for them to use a weapon ability could definitely add a layer of interesting difficulty
Thanks for that tutorial. Very well done and very helpful, easy to follow.
Thanks for watching, and happy gaming! :)
This was fantastic and helped with my first playthrough. Thanks!!
Glad this helped, and happy gaming!! :)
was gonna play this tonight but after spending *two hours* setting up the game we realized we were missing some pieces and had to put it off till another time till we found the pieces
How many skills does the ranger have to choose from? like the other classes I'm confused or one at a time with that class?
Great playthrough as always, well done! I really enjoy necro class especially solo.
@Dazir Studios Thanks for watching! A guy in our game group played the necromancer, and it was fun to have the enemies rise from the dead and fight for us! :)
Just bought the game today, your video is very helpful
Glad to help another Dale! :)
Thanks for this. Really helpful.
Glad to help, and hope your games go well! :)
Very nice!
Hi Dale, thanks for the tutorial! What is that token box you have? Looks lot like a Gamegenic Token Silo, but its bigger and has more sections.
This token silo came as part of the KickStarter. So not sure if they changed up the bins or not.
31:44 A bit confused about this. It says in the guide "Each Enemy minature: 1XP to the Hero that killed it". However the mob leader is not a minature and so I don't think that you should be adding the 1 extra experience plus the 2 XP to everyone else. It should just be 2 XP to everyone I feel (at least to the other character that didn't land the killing blow). That's it :)
Where does it state mob leaders are not miniatures?
Page 4 shows enemy miniatures which includes minions, leaders, roaming monsters and bosses. Page 20, ... For each enemy miniature killed, the attacking Hero gains 1 experience. If the killed miniature is a Mob Leader or Roaming Monster, all Heroes gain ADDITIONAL experience: 2 for mob leaders and 4 for roaming monsters. Hope that helps, and happy gaming!
@@DaletheCasualGamer Hi Dale yeah think you're right. Sorry about that and thanks again for you videos. Love the series :)
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Tha me for the video. It looks fun. I have the game but dread putting it on the table because it looks like it will take an hour to set up. 😬
If you have all the expansions, I suggest just starting with the base game! :)
Why did you spawn 2 mobs in the first room? Isn’t there only one spawn token? I might have missed it
The Door card dictated it. ruclips.net/video/LX549uZOgpY/видео.html
Egads this game needs streamlining
How did you know how much token need to add in the treasure bag? I look in the manual and see nothing about this
@jeff wng Easy to miss ... step 17 of set-up, use all common and 5 rare to start. Happy gaming! :)
@@DaletheCasualGamer Thanks verry much. It really helped the video, Thanks
great play through
@Mike Glasswell - Gameplay Thanks, very much appreciated as I know you've done several game plays of this game! :)
@@DaletheCasualGamer it's great to see more and more gameplay get released.
Dale, what storage bin are you using for your chits?
Game Genic makes some token trays in different colors. Here is a link to one on amazon for reference: amzn.to/3mP0JZw
@@DaletheCasualGamer wonderful, thank you sir!
Great playthrough! Did you print those doors yourself? they are great
@hypnotoad55 Thanks for watching! There were a few 3D sets for Massive Darkness that included doors, traps, and chests. Totally worth it as I can use them for RPGs too. :)
At 31:09 you did the after combat recover from the shadow power. I believe the says "every" hero so the ranger should have gotten that opportunity also.
also at 36:23 when you opened the door, shouldnt you have drawn an open door card?
@@Eric-bp4xm Since the chamber was already revealed, it will not trigger again. Hope that helps!
Excellent! Thanks for sharing.
I didn't back the KS, but have a copy on the way. I made the purchase after Tom Vasel raved about it!
Also, I see your heroes are painted. Awesome job!
@Tony Bowers I painted some, but so far away from the entire game. I think I may have reached my limit for painting this year ... oh look, Marvel United X-Men just arrived at the door! lol
Glad Tom Vasel and I agree on this game! I haven't delved into the campaign yet, but having a blast with the one-shots, and so has my game group. :)
I love the player plasticity thing. Sure I can think of a number of ways to improve upon it but taking player convenience into account during design is a plus. All those cards need a card holder cathedral of some sort and a smaller rack for the player. It’s a good old dungeon crawl. Speed leveling! That will keep my player interest high. The dice will take some getting used to what with rerolls and such but that hopefully comes with a couple of adventures. Overall I’m very positive but would like to see something other than a skirmish.
Does this mean you’ve been permission to buy!? :)
@@DaletheCasualGamer You ask that while I’m suffocating under MU shrink wrap? I was given permission to agree to the pub we visited this evening. I have a reception at the same time boardlandia is having their sale next week. She thought that was endlessly amusing.