They made pretty much everyone a worse person (except Stewie because he was an outright terrible person at the start) in order to, I guess, give them flaws that create dilemmas and conflicts that can create stories.
I feel like its realistic in alot of marriages were a partner becomes physically disabled the other partner loses interest I've experienced this through my whole life my mom was disabled an my dad left my mom I hated my dad for that for a long time because that's why I thought he left her an part if it was but truth was they both changed.
I feel like its realistic in alot of marriages were a partner becomes physically disabled the other partner loses interest I've experienced this through my whole life my mom was disabled an my dad left my mom I hated my dad for that for a long time because that's why I thought he left her an part if it was but truth was they both changed.
@@Scrinwaipwr Weirdly enough they made Stewie softer in a way He used to be a baby wanting to murder his mum and take over the world To a baby that's just smart Brian even says he's gone soft too
I honestly think Bonnie is an interesting character. I find her funny and attractive. I'm hoping that we get to learn more about Bonnie's backstory. I've noticed with this story in particular it all just begins when Joe finds her as a stripper. I wonder how her childhood was like? We got to meet Joe's parents are we ever going to meet Bonnie's parents? Where did this dark and mysterious side of her come from actually? I hope that the show digs deep into it. I feel like she's one of the more underdeveloped characters.
@@LydiaLovesTimelines me too. I honestly don't think she gets enough episode time for development. I mean, her competition with Louis is hilarious but, I just want to know more about her.
Especially because Family Guy seems to be running out of ideas and in the new seasons are redoing old, already done before concepts while never fully exploring the other characters
I'm gonna be honest there's a small part of me that sympathizes with Bonnie. Marriage is hard and taking care of your wheelchair bound husband has a lot of difficulties. Some partners can't handle the stress and work that comes with taking care of someone handicapped in the middle of the marriage. And when Joe becomes completely paralyzed that was her breaking point. Bonnie's actions aren't 100% justified but there's a small glimmer of understanding on her side
Well they went along with the idea she’s aware of them never aging in tv so her hatred grows. But she does the bare basics for him. Even making nice meals and cleaning him after he uses the restroom and taking care of her baby(which also never ages)
I agree completely. I really feel like if people were more empathetic towards caregivers, these deeply resentful relationships would be less common. People are so quick to judge others in situations like these. They’ll call them selfish for being “inconvenienced by someone else’s disability”. But they are still human beings. They often have to overwork themselves and sacrifice things that are important to them because they are responsible for another person’s survival. The fact that the person whom they’re caring for is physically worse-off than them doesn’t mean that their own feelings surrounding the situation are invalid. They’re still allowed to feel frustrated or exhausted or hopeless sometimes and having those emotions doesn’t make them a bad person. But when they try to talk about how hard it is on them, they often get judged, so they instead will keep it all bottled up inside, until it turns into this burning resentment. I think that if more people recognized their struggles and supported caregivers instead of shaming them, it would really ease a lot of the pressure.
I feel like what's funny is that Bonnie and Lois both hate their husbands But have like a rivalry against each other They went from loving each other to absolutely having no interest in each other it's crazy
I don't think Lois hates Peter. I think she gets very frustrated by some of the things he does, and that's understandable. However, in the show they make it pretty obvious they both love each other.
I assume the writers did that for conflict (more entertaining storylines) and it gives them more opportunities for jokes. The creators often use jokes about the secret rivalry in female relationships, mainly using Lois and Bonnie.
I get Bonnie’s rage. And I get how it started with Joe being able to walk because she spends all that time taking care of him WHILE PREGNANT and the first thing he does is leave 😬
why should she be liked ? For being a prostitute in the past, cheating and wanting to kill a disabled man ? It’s a funny show of course but things like that in real life happen… why respect it ?
Another thing you forgot to note is that she is implied to be dead in the future since joe actually got bonnie’s legs in a leg transplant, or joe made her a paraplegic as an act of revenge.
It's crazy looking at a family guy character like bonnie from an outside, objective perspective 😆 although I don't often watch the show, it's great to hear some of the stories from you 🙂 good work getting through this disastrous character Lydia 😆
Thank you Phantomstrider! It was really interesting going back and seeing how close Bonnie and Joe were in the early seasons, and comparing them to their relationship today.
I like Bonnie. I can kinda understand her slow decline to madness after having to take care of her husband, baby husband and PTSD son all at once. She just wants freedom and not to be the one people depend on
Okay but why did she have to cheat on Joe and then get mad when he cheated back on her once? Hypocrite much I assume. I can understand cheating is wrong and neither of them are in the right, but she had no right to get angry when she's more terrible.
@@MoonLoonie69 but at the same time joe cant use his #### so bonnie just cheats because joe has “nothing to offer” Remember that one scene in season 7 ep 7 when bonnie said “your a man, let me go get your penis” or something so that means they have to have a dildo to have sex. Maybe bonnie just cheats because joe has “nothing to offer”, and if he did he would LEAVE bonnie so bonnie kinda has to take care of 3 people. A baby, a pstd son, and a handicapped cop.
It's like after Bonnie had her daughter she wants joe to die in the worse ways. Seriously Bonnie could've done worse. She could've married Peter. Oh don't let the jerks get to you. You do amazing work with your videos and they're fun to watch. Thanks to your work I've rediscovered my love for many shows.
@@LydiaLovesTimelines your very welcome . I don't understand why they're going after your videos all of a sudden. Seriously your not doing anything wrong or claiming ownership of anything. You follow the rules like everyone else on RUclips. No matter what they say your fans have your back.
I feel for Bonnie in many ways. She's depressed. As someone who suffers depression myself I can recognize the signs. I know she's suffering a breakdown as I've already had that a few times myself
I miss Joe and Bonnie’s original relationship. They started as the most normal people in the show, but then both turned into mere shells of themselves. Joe became a screaming idiot and Bonnie an cheating psycho.
Two things: one? Yes, absolutely I'd stick with Joe. 2? I think the reason Bonnie shamed Lois for her past is because Bonnie herself isn't ashamed of her own. So seeing lois act like an entitled self-made martyr would definitely get under her skin. In her mind? Lois isn't actually suffering anything given how different their lives are. *Now does that justify either of these to gals? Absolutely not. But it's pretty obvious that if they were to swap lives or their husband's swapped lives? It would be rather enlightening*
It’s crazy that the characters went from being understanding with some flaws (relatable) to straight f’d up with no respect for others or themselves (unrelatable); personally, I think it’s a change with the times types of thing (the real world changes fast so the cartoon world has to change along with it as well).
I think they took the realism of how sometimes when a partner becomes disabled and you have to do everything for them and it eventually does takes it toll on you, especially when you have children to care for additionally. They took that fact and went to the extremes.
I feel Bonnie is on the list of characters that got absolutely ruined and made pieces of crap in this show. They were so happy before and were possibly the tightest couple in the show. But then she devolved to hating her husband cause she has to help take care of him? Now don't get me wrong, I know it's not easy easy to take of a paralyzed person, even though Joe has proven many times he's very capable of taking care of himself, but Bonnie's actions in response to that responsibility makes me question if she ever truly loved Joe if him being paralyzed was all it took to shatter that love between them. There's also one big factor that make me hate her most of all, she's a massive hypocrite who can't really live without Joe. She slept around on Joe many many times, yet she gets furious when Joe cheats on her with one woman (Don't get me wrong, cheating is still a terrible sin). Bonnie literally has 0 right to be mad at Joe for what she does constantly. And as stated above, she hates taking care of Joe which is driving her to her murderous mindset towards Joe, but again it's been proven Joe is more than capable of taking care of himself on many occasions. He's an active cop for God's sake, and a good one at that. Even an episode with Joe telling Bonnie she's free to live her own life without taking care of him, and here she is still being bitter and petty. Not to mention, Joe's pretty much the main provider of the household cause Bonnie's got no job, and proven she can't make it very far without Joe. Hell probably why she was a stripper in the past. To wrap things up, I low key hate Bonnie, just another list of ruined Family Guy characters they ruin kind of for no reason.
Finally a sane person around her. Thank you! And yeah I know it's horrible to take care of someone who couldn't but yeah, you just said all the great point I could repeat. Its why I know longer like her or watch Family Guy. It's just painful to watch. I used to love this show until it got so hatefilled and sadistic.
Lol joe is also just as bad. He literally left her pregnant after being able to walk again, of course she started hating him. It makes it seem like he is only with her because he needs a caretaker
The Sad Truth about Family Guy's Characters is that they All decline from Good to Terrible Characters,Bonnie Swanson is one of the Few Characters that I either Love or Hate,She's basically Interesting and Underrated,Sure on One Hand She has done "Questionable Things" but on the Other Hand I Understand what She's Going Through,also sorry about what's happening to Your Videos Lydia,I know you Worked hard on them so I will try to watch them as Fast as I can.
The Swanson's relationship can only end one way, in death. Because, no matter what she does or where she goes if Joe asks her to come home she will. In Bonnie's own words, "I can't say no to Joe."
For years I've wanted a Quagmire and Bonnie spinoff, they begin a love affair, Glenn discovers a dark secret in her past, he accepts her and the danger it brings, they run off together and throw in a bit of drama with Glenn trying to overcome his sex addiction to be faithful to her
Bonnie and Glenn would have been really interesting. I'd say he overcame the sex addiction because they both are into the same things. They would be an interesting couple
You’re right on how characters become more corrupt and mean over time I would ask myself why would writers do such a thing to make us frustrated over that?
I love floating timelines because nobody ages or anything, but you can still have those self aware moment's like Peter saying "you've been pregnant for like 6 years" and it actually was 6 real world years
I love this video and Bonnie’s timeline as her character progressives through the show but when you said at 7:04 “But who turns up yet again to save the day, none other than Joe Swanson” 😂 I chucked at “yet again” because he always ends up “saving the day” with his marriage with Bonnie. 💀
I absolutely love Bonnie, one of my favourites. I feel like there's still a lot to explore about her. Wish they would stop going in circles with her and Joe and give them a unique storyline rather than cheating and getting back together so much. She's really a funny and stunning character, and the voice actress gives such a unique voice to Bonnie too! :)
I just realized Bonnie hating joe and feeling rage after having Susie is a sign of ppd maybe that’s what happened to her 😭 I know after I had my daughter I had a strong dislike towards my kids father but after a while it went away and I did have ppd
Considering she was the one who tried to keep him by re-paralyzing him, she is at fault for most of their problems. It is not outright stated but Joe was originally paralyzed due to injuries to his legs, which is why he could still move them in certain circumstances and even regained full motion in them for a short period during a skiing accident with Kevin. However, after the leg transplant he is shot in the spine and can no longer move his legs at all and will not walk again without a transplant of the L4 vertebrae. This was most likely done so no one would ask why they don't get him another procedure as soon as new leg transplants are found. Furthermore, after his spine was shot, his legs deteriorated and are mostly bags of puss now. Even if he got a new vertebrae, he would still need new legs too. I do not know when this show will get canceled but I hope they pull a Futurama and give everyone a center episode that resolves most of their problems. Meg would get another blonde makeover, Joe and Bonnie would divorce for good, Brian would finally meet a proper girl and Quagmire would be put in jail permanently.
Agreed. Though why would quagmire be put in jail? Are you talking about the jokes of CP he has because there's also jokes about Peter having some as well. Or are you talking about something else entirely that's not part of the cut aways.
@@siennaolive4015 i was just trying to suggest an ending for each bases on what they do in most of their centric episodes. Quagmire's ideal would be settling down but that sounded exactly the same as what i said for brian and he has been shown trying to settle down and regretting it immediately. Considering his other glaring character quality makes him just like bill cosby i figure jail would be an acceptable conclusion for him.
It's sad family guy used to be so good but not all the characters are so different from what they once were. Lois was a supportive mom and wife and she truly loved her family while Peter might have been considered to be dumb by many he had a good heart and often times tries to do what he could to support his family. I always loved Stewie even not considering he used be be more evil than gay. Meg was a character I could relate to. I have always felt like a fish out of water in my own family but in the end I still loved them. The one thing I feel that Meg had in the earlier seasons was her family despite what you see now they actually cared for Meg for the most part and Meg wasn't the butt of the joke or hated like she is portrayed today. Chris was always the one with the level head I was also considered to be stupid but he was an artist and had a big heart for animals and people. And Brian used to be the voice of reason now he's just a douchebag. I still watch Family Guy today but more prefer the earlier seasons
Never did like how Bonnie character took a for turn to the worst. Her only role in the was she was the pregnant wife of Joe, until she give birth to theirs daughter in the seventh season, she became a mother with two kids who's trap in a poor and loveless marriage with a emotional cribble husband who she clearly possess no love for no more to the point she wants to kill him.
Well I didnt started this show for to long, but despite that I just wanted to say that I liked you're artstyle of you're own character:3 it is amazing 👏
I miss when Joe was an actual character. Now he's just an excuse for them to make jokes about his condition and rarely anything else. As much as I am loving the new direction the series is going in, this is one issue from the show's worst era that they haven't managed to fix. P.S. Please do the Seamus timeline.
Man Disney is going down hard with the copyrights the fact they actually find out RUclipsrs address’s and send out cease and desist letters or threaten them with lawsuits while copyright claiming videos is just insulting I miss the old Disney where they didn’t care or own family guy it’s practically inevitable they will own every peace of media in future
I'm early! And yay! I love Bonnie's character she's just so funny to me lol. I love how her character is still crazy like everyone else but you really wouldn't see it coming. Unlike Lois.
Hey Lydia I found your channel just yesterday and immediately subscribed, I love timeline videos and Family Guy so I got the jackpot finding one of your videos in my recommendations. Keep up the good work! :)
@@LydiaLovesTimelines A video on Chris would be cool since he’s the last Griffin you haven’t covered yet, I can’t think of any other character that a lot of screentime wich you haven’t covered yet lol
I always like Bonnie and Joe's relationship at first, it was kind of cool how Joe didn't let his wheelchair define him and stop him doing things he loved to do and Bonnie still loved and cared for Joe despite his disability, however as the show has slowly degraded Joe into someone who just seems depressed and in constant need of help (the opposite of what he was) Bonnie has become more evil and vindictive as Joe relies more on her and equally she's no longer held back by being pregnant. I actually really like that they made Bonnie more confident and sleazy shall we say and it's made her a lot more interesting in her interactions with Lois and she actually has some funny lines now however I really wish they'd properly repair her and Joe's relationship, like Maybe they could do a more Bonnie and Joe focused episode and as opposed to other where status quo seemingly resumes they instead actually have a more loving and invested relationship and hopefully Kevin and Suzie can be involved to show a complete family unit, to the stage where it could maybe piss the Brown's or/and Griffin's off.
I love how in one episode they show how Jennifer Tilly can turn on and off her raspy voice. Before that episode I always thought that was both Jennifer's and Bonnie's natural voice!
Easily one of the most underrated characters in the show and this maybe a popular opinion but I think her and Brian were better together than her and joe
It's because they're telling the truth like I always kind of felt bad for people who have to take care of someone disabled because you have just devoted your whole life to taking care of this person for their whole life. If someone really doesn't want to do that, you almost have no choice because there are no other options, That could take a toll on you. if you say you don't want to do it now you're a bad person, You don't love them,and many other feelings that would be shoved onto you, so you do it. you are now locked to that person forever and if you try to go and be in a relationship now that person is locked to them too. It's not for everybody. I say I could do it if I was already in a relationship with someone and then they became disabled but it takes a lot to enter into relationship with someone who's already disabled and you really have to know what you're getting yourself into before you agree to it. I can only imagine if you have to work a full-time job and go home and take care of somebody also. Luckily this is a cartoon and for her it seems like she doesn't really have to have a job they're living off of some kind of money if the man is the one in this situation he could feel very helpless and useless etc etc.
Love your channels Lydia I hate that Disney is acting like Nintendo towards your videos removing them like they're losing something which honestly they are not. You keep on doing what your doing and have an awesome day or night or both.
Bonnie is my favorite character and it's all because of her voice as it is highly Sexy and I also love her attitude and I always hope Bonnie has more time on every episode. Also thanks for doing this video of all her past shenanigan's~!! Glad to be a new subscriber too~!
I am not sure, but I think the difference between Bonnie's and Lois's "adult perfromer" past is that Bonnie is willing to admit she was a dancer while Lois did all she could to hide it.
i like that their relationship degraded over the course of the show, resentment can build over the years especially with Bonnie having to take care of both Joe AND Suzie, not to mention all the messy codependency that is bound to occur in a relationship like theirs. its messy and i LOVE it
@@inkubator320 yeah I kinda agree but most of the time Bonnie deserves karma and Joe deserved none of it because he’s a good guy that cares about his family. Despite all of this I kinda feel bad for her a little bit but not much.
Frankly I really, really HATE Disney for taking videos down even though it was for fun and timelines. I actually hate Disney for owning Fox, everything thing at the fact. You did great Lydia. I am very amazed
psychologically, bonnie's character is a huge parody of post partum depression. a phenomena in which when women give birth or lose children, they kinda have a breaking point.
this is a brilliant story, Bonnie is a brilliant character, but she shouldn't treat Joe like some below average loser, yet i believe she'll get to enjoy her life when she gets the life SHE wants, instead of Joe's..... Bonnie is hard to please, fair enough. and doesn't like to be married to a cripple! next for doing a time line on try Dr. Hartman.
Bonnie and Joe were such a good, strong couple. I have no idea why the crew decided to degrade and devolve their personalities and relationship.
They made pretty much everyone a worse person (except Stewie because he was an outright terrible person at the start) in order to, I guess, give them flaws that create dilemmas and conflicts that can create stories.
Joe and bonnie are anything but strong
I feel like its realistic in alot of marriages were a partner becomes physically disabled the other partner loses interest I've experienced this through my whole life my mom was disabled an my dad left my mom I hated my dad for that for a long time because that's why I thought he left her an part if it was but truth was they both changed.
I feel like its realistic in alot of marriages were a partner becomes physically disabled the other partner loses interest I've experienced this through my whole life my mom was disabled an my dad left my mom I hated my dad for that for a long time because that's why I thought he left her an part if it was but truth was they both changed.
@@Scrinwaipwr Weirdly enough they made Stewie softer in a way
He used to be a baby wanting to murder his mum and take over the world
To a baby that's just smart
Brian even says he's gone soft too
As cold as Bonnie has become, she’s still infinitely more likable then modern Lois.
I totes agree
Yep!
I agree 👍 💯
At least bonnie admits to affairs unlike lois
Lois’s voice gives me a headache bonnie’s is probably better tbh
I honestly think Bonnie is an interesting character. I find her funny and attractive. I'm hoping that we get to learn more about Bonnie's backstory. I've noticed with this story in particular it all just begins when Joe finds her as a stripper. I wonder how her childhood was like? We got to meet Joe's parents are we ever going to meet Bonnie's parents? Where did this dark and mysterious side of her come from actually? I hope that the show digs deep into it. I feel like she's one of the more underdeveloped characters.
I'd love to see her character fleshed out more
@@LydiaLovesTimelines me too. I honestly don't think she gets enough episode time for development. I mean, her competition with Louis is hilarious but, I just want to know more about her.
Especially because Family Guy seems to be running out of ideas and in the new seasons are redoing old, already done before concepts while never fully exploring the other characters
@@sponggiexoxo It’s Lois
@@daniapfel2825 thanks for the name correction 😎✌🏾
I'm gonna be honest there's a small part of me that sympathizes with Bonnie. Marriage is hard and taking care of your wheelchair bound husband has a lot of difficulties. Some partners can't handle the stress and work that comes with taking care of someone handicapped in the middle of the marriage. And when Joe becomes completely paralyzed that was her breaking point. Bonnie's actions aren't 100% justified but there's a small glimmer of understanding on her side
Well they went along with the idea she’s aware of them never aging in tv so her hatred grows. But she does the bare basics for him. Even making nice meals and cleaning him after he uses the restroom and taking care of her baby(which also never ages)
But he could walk again, the girl set him up to paralyze him again...
I agree completely. I really feel like if people were more empathetic towards caregivers, these deeply resentful relationships would be less common. People are so quick to judge others in situations like these. They’ll call them selfish for being “inconvenienced by someone else’s disability”. But they are still human beings. They often have to overwork themselves and sacrifice things that are important to them
because they are responsible for another person’s survival. The fact that the person whom they’re caring for is physically worse-off than them doesn’t mean that their own feelings surrounding the situation are invalid. They’re still allowed to feel frustrated or exhausted or hopeless sometimes and having those emotions doesn’t make them a bad person. But when they try to talk about how hard it is on them, they often get judged, so they instead will keep it all bottled up inside, until it turns into this burning resentment. I think that if more people recognized their struggles and supported caregivers instead of shaming them, it would really ease a lot of the pressure.
They were fine until he was disabled then she became an ableist, abusive partner.
i agree, my papaw was paralyzed and couldn’t feel below his chest, my mother and my grandmother had to care for him.
I feel like what's funny is that Bonnie and Lois both hate their husbands But have like a rivalry against each other They went from loving each other to absolutely having no interest in each other it's crazy
I don't think Lois hates Peter. I think she gets very frustrated by some of the things he does, and that's understandable. However, in the show they make it pretty obvious they both love each other.
Lois doesn’t hate Peter they just both need to stop cheating on each other
I assume the writers did that for conflict (more entertaining storylines) and it gives them more opportunities for jokes. The creators often use jokes about the secret rivalry in female relationships, mainly using Lois and Bonnie.
I get Bonnie’s rage. And I get how it started with Joe being able to walk because she spends all that time taking care of him WHILE PREGNANT and the first thing he does is leave 😬
or go around on adventures with his dumb friends instead of helping with their child 🤣
She left first….💀🖤
R u kidding me.
She is a SNAKE if ever there was one.
@@chanteniquejohnson799 no he left her before that
@@SaikiKFann -.-
Bonnie is definitely one underrated character and this timeline is really good!
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why should she be liked ? For being a prostitute in the past, cheating and wanting to kill a disabled man ? It’s a funny show of course but things like that in real life happen… why respect it ?
Yeah she definitely is
Another thing you forgot to note is that she is implied to be dead in the future since joe actually got bonnie’s legs in a leg transplant, or joe made her a paraplegic as an act of revenge.
Omg you're right! Totally forgot about that haha
WHO WEARS SHORT SHORTS?
I WEAR SHORT SHORTS!!!!
@@ArtisticGamer14 i can hear joe from this
What episode was that
@@melokebeni2784 S4 E30
I miss Joe's original origin of being injured at the hands of the Grinch.
Yeah...was going to type the same thing...
What you mean "shot while undercover"??? Dude fell off an icy roof at Christmas!
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It’s kind of sad when even quagmire calls them out on that and he said it was just a “cover story”.
It's crazy looking at a family guy character like bonnie from an outside, objective perspective 😆 although I don't often watch the show, it's great to hear some of the stories from you 🙂 good work getting through this disastrous character Lydia 😆
Thank you Phantomstrider! It was really interesting going back and seeing how close Bonnie and Joe were in the early seasons, and comparing them to their relationship today.
@@LydiaLovesTimelines It certainly illustrated well the shift in the spirit of the show as the seasons progressed forward 🤔
epic crossover flipping nora
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@@phantomstrider I don't like bonnie or hate her I am mixed alright
I like Bonnie. I can kinda understand her slow decline to madness after having to take care of her husband, baby husband and PTSD son all at once. She just wants freedom and not to be the one people depend on
Okay but why did she have to cheat on Joe and then get mad when he cheated back on her once? Hypocrite much I assume. I can understand cheating is wrong and neither of them are in the right, but she had no right to get angry when she's more terrible.
@@MoonLoonie69 true
@@MoonLoonie69 but at the same time joe cant use his #### so bonnie just cheats because joe has “nothing to offer” Remember that one scene in season 7 ep 7 when bonnie said “your a man, let me go get your penis” or something so that means they have to have a dildo to have sex. Maybe bonnie just cheats because joe has “nothing to offer”, and if he did he would LEAVE bonnie so bonnie kinda has to take care of 3 people. A baby, a pstd son, and a handicapped cop.
@@AmariSuper Yep.
@MoonLoonie69 she has flaws but also ukderstandable aspects
It's like after Bonnie had her daughter she wants joe to die in the worse ways. Seriously Bonnie could've done worse. She could've married Peter. Oh don't let the jerks get to you. You do amazing work with your videos and they're fun to watch. Thanks to your work I've rediscovered my love for many shows.
Thank you so much!!
@@LydiaLovesTimelines your very welcome . I don't understand why they're going after your videos all of a sudden. Seriously your not doing anything wrong or claiming ownership of anything. You follow the rules like everyone else on RUclips. No matter what they say your fans have your back.
@@slanetroyard92 I appreciate that. I'm hoping it was only an error and that they'll correct their mistake soon 🙂
@@LydiaLovesTimelines you and me both pal. The Chris video was my favorite to.
@@slanetroyard92 I can actually see Peter and bonnie being married
I noticed that ever since she gave birth to Suzie she completely changed. When she was pregnant she was a calm regular person.
Maybe it's some variation of post-partum depression
You'd think it'd be the opposite
I feel for Bonnie in many ways. She's depressed. As someone who suffers depression myself I can recognize the signs. I know she's suffering a breakdown as I've already had that a few times myself
I hope you're ok.
she's fictional
@@WinterStones ok?
@@WinterStones wow you don’t say
@@WinterStones omg FR?
I miss Joe and Bonnie’s original relationship. They started as the most normal people in the show, but then both turned into mere shells of themselves. Joe became a screaming idiot and Bonnie an cheating psycho.
Yeah, that’s how the evolution of television works :/
Two things: one? Yes, absolutely I'd stick with Joe. 2? I think the reason Bonnie shamed Lois for her past is because Bonnie herself isn't ashamed of her own. So seeing lois act like an entitled self-made martyr would definitely get under her skin. In her mind? Lois isn't actually suffering anything given how different their lives are.
*Now does that justify either of these to gals? Absolutely not. But it's pretty obvious that if they were to swap lives or their husband's swapped lives? It would be rather enlightening*
Jennifer Tilly,who I have met, has voiced Bonnie since the beginning. She is great and nice as pie.
That's awesome! She seems super nice in interviews
Jennifer is so Perfect for the Bonnie Character and who doesn't love her voice????
She also voiced Tiffany Valentine/Ray from chucky
It’s crazy that the characters went from being understanding with some flaws (relatable) to straight f’d up with no respect for others or themselves (unrelatable); personally, I think it’s a change with the times types of thing (the real world changes fast so the cartoon world has to change along with it as well).
I think they took the realism of how sometimes when a partner becomes disabled and you have to do everything for them and it eventually does takes it toll on you, especially when you have children to care for additionally. They took that fact and went to the extremes.
I feel Bonnie is on the list of characters that got absolutely ruined and made pieces of crap in this show. They were so happy before and were possibly the tightest couple in the show. But then she devolved to hating her husband cause she has to help take care of him? Now don't get me wrong, I know it's not easy easy to take of a paralyzed person, even though Joe has proven many times he's very capable of taking care of himself, but Bonnie's actions in response to that responsibility makes me question if she ever truly loved Joe if him being paralyzed was all it took to shatter that love between them. There's also one big factor that make me hate her most of all, she's a massive hypocrite who can't really live without Joe. She slept around on Joe many many times, yet she gets furious when Joe cheats on her with one woman (Don't get me wrong, cheating is still a terrible sin). Bonnie literally has 0 right to be mad at Joe for what she does constantly. And as stated above, she hates taking care of Joe which is driving her to her murderous mindset towards Joe, but again it's been proven Joe is more than capable of taking care of himself on many occasions. He's an active cop for God's sake, and a good one at that. Even an episode with Joe telling Bonnie she's free to live her own life without taking care of him, and here she is still being bitter and petty. Not to mention, Joe's pretty much the main provider of the household cause Bonnie's got no job, and proven she can't make it very far without Joe. Hell probably why she was a stripper in the past. To wrap things up, I low key hate Bonnie, just another list of ruined Family Guy characters they ruin kind of for no reason.
Finally a sane person around her. Thank you! And yeah I know it's horrible to take care of someone who couldn't but yeah, you just said all the great point I could repeat. Its why I know longer like her or watch Family Guy. It's just painful to watch. I used to love this show until it got so hatefilled and sadistic.
I agree 100%
Lol joe is also just as bad. He literally left her pregnant after being able to walk again, of course she started hating him. It makes it seem like he is only with her because he needs a caretaker
Lol. I didn't realize how much I wanted this until I had it. Great job as always!!
Enjoy! 😄
bonnie walking away from the house on fire will always be iconic, queen.
The Sad Truth about Family Guy's Characters is that they All decline from Good to Terrible Characters,Bonnie Swanson is one of the Few Characters that I either Love or Hate,She's basically Interesting and Underrated,Sure on One Hand She has done "Questionable Things" but on the Other Hand I Understand what She's Going Through,also sorry about what's happening to Your Videos Lydia,I know you Worked hard on them so I will try to watch them as Fast as I can.
The Swanson's relationship can only end one way, in death. Because, no matter what she does or where she goes if Joe asks her to come home she will. In Bonnie's own words, "I can't say no to Joe."
divorce, they obviously can't stand each other these days.
For years I've wanted a Quagmire and Bonnie spinoff, they begin a love affair, Glenn discovers a dark secret in her past, he accepts her and the danger it brings, they run off together and throw in a bit of drama with Glenn trying to overcome his sex addiction to be faithful to her
That’d be so sweet
no a spin off separately
Bonnie and Glenn would have been really interesting. I'd say he overcame the sex addiction because they both are into the same things. They would be an interesting couple
Ew no
gross
You’re right on how characters become more corrupt and mean over time I would ask myself why would writers do such a thing to make us frustrated over that?
I sort of feel at this point, they are actively trying to see how far they can push the show with an increasingly less likable cast.
Family guy characters went to dark and light @
I think it's called "Flanderization " they take 1 trait and make it the whole character
I love floating timelines because nobody ages or anything, but you can still have those self aware moment's like Peter saying "you've been pregnant for like 6 years" and it actually was 6 real world years
This has automatically become one of my favorite videos 😍🔥.
Happy to hear that! 😀
it's crazy that those two are still together and I enjoy this time line please keep it up 👍🙏😁
The fact that Bonnie has decided to have so many affairs is almost unforgivable
They are both at fault
I love this video and Bonnie’s timeline as her character progressives through the show but when you said at 7:04 “But who turns up yet again to save the day, none other than Joe Swanson” 😂 I chucked at “yet again” because he always ends up “saving the day” with his marriage with Bonnie. 💀
She's one of my favorites characters mostly because her voice is so calming
I absolutely love Bonnie, one of my favourites. I feel like there's still a lot to explore about her. Wish they would stop going in circles with her and Joe and give them a unique storyline rather than cheating and getting back together so much. She's really a funny and stunning character, and the voice actress gives such a unique voice to Bonnie too! :)
I just realized Bonnie hating joe and feeling rage after having Susie is a sign of ppd maybe that’s what happened to her 😭 I know after I had my daughter I had a strong dislike towards my kids father but after a while it went away and I did have ppd
Hey, thanks for watching. I thought the same, and really considered putting it into the script :)
@@LydiaLovesTimelines of course I love these videos, and it definitely would’ve been a good thought
I *love* bonnie. She’s been my favorite since the beginning
I'd love to see a episode with just Bonnie and Lois going on a Thelma and Louise style adventure
Joe dancing for Bonnie is hilarious 😂
I love your timelines 😩
Thank you
Considering she was the one who tried to keep him by re-paralyzing him, she is at fault for most of their problems.
It is not outright stated but Joe was originally paralyzed due to injuries to his legs, which is why he could still move them in certain circumstances and even regained full motion in them for a short period during a skiing accident with Kevin.
However, after the leg transplant he is shot in the spine and can no longer move his legs at all and will not walk again without a transplant of the L4 vertebrae. This was most likely done so no one would ask why they don't get him another procedure as soon as new leg transplants are found.
Furthermore, after his spine was shot, his legs deteriorated and are mostly bags of puss now. Even if he got a new vertebrae, he would still need new legs too.
I do not know when this show will get canceled but I hope they pull a Futurama and give everyone a center episode that resolves most of their problems.
Meg would get another blonde makeover, Joe and Bonnie would divorce for good, Brian would finally meet a proper girl and Quagmire would be put in jail permanently.
Agreed. Though why would quagmire be put in jail? Are you talking about the jokes of CP he has because there's also jokes about Peter having some as well. Or are you talking about something else entirely that's not part of the cut aways.
@@siennaolive4015 i was just trying to suggest an ending for each bases on what they do in most of their centric episodes. Quagmire's ideal would be settling down but that sounded exactly the same as what i said for brian and he has been shown trying to settle down and regretting it immediately.
Considering his other glaring character quality makes him just like bill cosby i figure jail would be an acceptable conclusion for him.
@@sanddagger36 oh I see. Another conclusion for him could be faking his death and running off to Brazil and dying in a freak sex accident 🤷♀️
@@siennaolive4015 double ironic for him to first fake his own death and then to really die
Great timeline video!
Glad you enjoyed it
It's sad family guy used to be so good but not all the characters are so different from what they once were. Lois was a supportive mom and wife and she truly loved her family while Peter might have been considered to be dumb by many he had a good heart and often times tries to do what he could to support his family. I always loved Stewie even not considering he used be be more evil than gay. Meg was a character I could relate to. I have always felt like a fish out of water in my own family but in the end I still loved them. The one thing I feel that Meg had in the earlier seasons was her family despite what you see now they actually cared for Meg for the most part and Meg wasn't the butt of the joke or hated like she is portrayed today. Chris was always the one with the level head I was also considered to be stupid but he was an artist and had a big heart for animals and people. And Brian used to be the voice of reason now he's just a douchebag. I still watch Family Guy today but more prefer the earlier seasons
Never did like how Bonnie character took a for turn to the worst.
Her only role in the was she was the pregnant wife of Joe, until she give birth to theirs daughter in the seventh season, she became a mother with two kids who's trap in a poor and loveless marriage with a emotional cribble husband who she clearly possess no love for no more to the point she wants to kill him.
One of her kids is an adult I don't know why she just take the daughter
Well I didnt started this show for to long, but despite that I just wanted to say that I liked you're artstyle of you're own character:3 it is amazing 👏
Thank you :)
I enjoy seeing Bonnie's Timeline she's also a Card Shark just like her actress Jennifer Tilly.
I love Jennifer Tilly, such a distinct voice!
I miss when Joe was an actual character. Now he's just an excuse for them to make jokes about his condition and rarely anything else. As much as I am loving the new direction the series is going in, this is one issue from the show's worst era that they haven't managed to fix.
P.S. Please do the Seamus timeline.
Just found this channel, it's quality content.
Welcome to the channel 🙂👋
Man Disney is going down hard with the copyrights the fact they actually find out RUclipsrs address’s and send out cease and desist letters or threaten them with lawsuits while copyright claiming videos is just insulting I miss the old Disney where they didn’t care or own family guy it’s practically inevitable they will own every peace of media in future
Let's gooooo another great timeline!
You gotta admire Quagmire in that Paris episode, though.
Whoever writes for family guy can’t remember stuff because showing how joe was paralyzed has happened many times and it’s always different
thats the joke
9:53 here's another one! :D
Stewie went from a cold-blooded killer to a simply loving-yet traumatized infant
I love your videos so much screen portal keep up the good work woman
Thank you! Will do!
@@LydiaLovesTimelines your welcome
I love the old family guy it was so wholesome
I'm early! And yay! I love Bonnie's character she's just so funny to me lol.
I love how her character is still crazy like everyone else but you really wouldn't see it coming. Unlike Lois.
I think a good addition would be Clevelands wife timeline to finish the set
I agree! I'll add her to the poll tomorrow. Keep an eye out for that and vote for the next one :)
Which one the ex one of the current one?
Donna or Loretta?
It would be interesting to see an episode where Bonnie has to try to get Joe back.
Bonnie has a dark side, interesting.
And again jerry good.
I really hate how this show destroyed Bonnie's character I feel like out of all the characters she suffered the most when it came to her personality
Here She is! We were waiting so long!
I hope it was worth the wait
Love your videos do a video on worst things Lois had done
Hey Lydia I found your channel just yesterday and immediately subscribed, I love timeline videos and Family Guy so I got the jackpot finding one of your videos in my recommendations. Keep up the good work! :)
Hi Ozymandias, welcome to the channel! So happy you're liking my videos. Which character would you like me to look at next?
@@LydiaLovesTimelines A video on Chris would be cool since he’s the last Griffin you haven’t covered yet, I can’t think of any other character that a lot of screentime wich you haven’t covered yet lol
@@ozyisgoated she did have one about Chris but It was copyright striked by Disney
@@donaldmelvin4348 oh that sucks
Yep Joe Tries everything to get her back but she doesn't do it the other way around Love your Channel by the way Lydia
Bro this channel is so underrated
Your voice is amazing , I love it
you got one more sub & like
Thank you
Glad to be early on this one! Great timeline as usual :D
Love your timeline I have watch all of them
Thanks for watching! :)
Favourite upload Saturday!
I always like Bonnie and Joe's relationship at first, it was kind of cool how Joe didn't let his wheelchair define him and stop him doing things he loved to do and Bonnie still loved and cared for Joe despite his disability, however as the show has slowly degraded Joe into someone who just seems depressed and in constant need of help (the opposite of what he was) Bonnie has become more evil and vindictive as Joe relies more on her and equally she's no longer held back by being pregnant. I actually really like that they made Bonnie more confident and sleazy shall we say and it's made her a lot more interesting in her interactions with Lois and she actually has some funny lines now however I really wish they'd properly repair her and Joe's relationship, like Maybe they could do a more Bonnie and Joe focused episode and as opposed to other where status quo seemingly resumes they instead actually have a more loving and invested relationship and hopefully Kevin and Suzie can be involved to show a complete family unit, to the stage where it could maybe piss the Brown's or/and Griffin's off.
You’re strong enough to not let them take off your videos
I love how in one episode they show how Jennifer Tilly can turn on and off her raspy voice.
Before that episode I always thought that was both Jennifer's and Bonnie's natural voice!
Great work, as always! If anything, Fox/Disney should pay you for the advertising.
Easily one of the most underrated characters in the show and this maybe a popular opinion but I think her and Brian were better together than her and joe
"i do too Bon"
Made me laugh so hard 😭😂
It's because they're telling the truth like I always kind of felt bad for people who have to take care of someone disabled because you have just devoted your whole life to taking care of this person for their whole life. If someone really doesn't want to do that, you almost have no choice because there are no other options, That could take a toll on you. if you say you don't want to do it now you're a bad person, You don't love them,and many other feelings that would be shoved onto you, so you do it. you are now locked to that person forever and if you try to go and be in a relationship now that person is locked to them too. It's not for everybody. I say I could do it if I was already in a relationship with someone and then they became disabled but it takes a lot to enter into relationship with someone who's already disabled and you really have to know what you're getting yourself into before you agree to it. I can only imagine if you have to work a full-time job and go home and take care of somebody also. Luckily this is a cartoon and for her it seems like she doesn't really have to have a job they're living off of some kind of money if the man is the one in this situation he could feel very helpless and useless etc etc.
3:47 "Either have the baby or don't!" 😂😂
Joe's lap dance was so hilarious
Thanks for making this video
Can you do Bojack horseman? I’ve been getting into the series a lot and have been enjoying it. Or maybe his mother??
Check out the Johnny2Cellos channel. He makes amazing BoJack timelines :)
I Love Watching Your Videos Even Though I Have Never Watched Family Guy.
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Love your channels Lydia I hate that Disney is acting like Nintendo towards your videos removing them like they're losing something which honestly they are not. You keep on doing what your doing and have an awesome day or night or both.
Could not wait for this one joe’s was already so great
She’s one of my favourite characters
Bonnie is my favorite character and it's all because of her voice as it is highly Sexy and I also love her attitude and I always hope Bonnie has more time on every episode. Also thanks for doing this video of all her past shenanigan's~!! Glad to be a new subscriber too~!
Came for Lydia, stayed for the lovely Bonnie ❤
I’m happy I found this channel ❤️❤️
I am not sure, but I think the difference between Bonnie's and Lois's "adult perfromer" past is that Bonnie is willing to admit she was a dancer while Lois did all she could to hide it.
I love the SHADE you gave disneyyyy
i like that their relationship degraded over the course of the show, resentment can build over the years especially with Bonnie having to take care of both Joe AND Suzie, not to mention all the messy codependency that is bound to occur in a relationship like theirs. its messy and i LOVE it
you do so much for us so thank you
(just that and your videos are amazing)
Thank you Anakin! You looking forward to ObiWan show?
Honestly even with their ups and downs and Bonnie trying to kill Joe or wanting him dead they are my most favourite family guy couple
How the hell do you only you have 72k subscribers? I thought it was 7.2 million
2k subs in one day
Jennifer Tilly does her voice, such an icon
I feel bad for Joe he’s been constantly cheated on by Bonnie.
I feel bad for both of them but mostly joe
@@inkubator320 yeah I kinda agree but most of the time Bonnie deserves karma and Joe deserved none of it because he’s a good guy that cares about his family. Despite all of this I kinda feel bad for her a little bit but not much.
Frankly I really, really HATE Disney for taking videos down even though it was for fun and timelines.
I actually hate Disney for owning Fox, everything thing at the fact.
You did great Lydia. I am very amazed
Can you do some futurama timelines? I’d love to see one for leela
Hey, I've got about 4 Futurama videos including Leela's. I've got a playlist on my channel. Check them out and let me know what you think :)
@@LydiaLovesTimelines oh ok thanks!
psychologically, bonnie's character is a huge parody of post partum depression. a phenomena in which when women give birth or lose children, they kinda have a breaking point.
this is a brilliant story, Bonnie is a brilliant character, but she shouldn't treat Joe like some below average loser, yet i believe she'll get to enjoy her life when she gets the life SHE wants, instead of Joe's..... Bonnie is hard to please, fair enough. and doesn't like to be married to a cripple!
next for doing a time line on try Dr. Hartman.
Yea but love is supposed to last I think bonnie had lust for Joe when they got married I dont think she fell in love.
5:18 Quagmire really is a good friend.
Amazing time line I love your vids
You are so awesome 😄😁👍
You're awesome 👍
Thank you 😊
It's thememing that bonie is voice by Jennifer Tilly who plays Tiffany in CHUCKY franchise
Tiffany's relationship with chucky is also a cycle
I love Bride of Chcuky. Have you seen the TV show?
OMG my comment is pinned !
And I a kinda seen the TV show