This wasn't just miller vs petey. Miller's departure from the team back in November was forced by the organization because he got physical with the video coach. Miller is a great player and has his moments of being a great teammate but he can't control his emotions and that's what is the locker room cancer. Hes gone now so let's move on from talking about him
He has issues with Petey, he got physical with the video coach, he had an affair. Which one or all three? The 2 later ones, he should of been suspended or have his contract terminated for breach of contract.
@@KyleMacSkill i never heard anything about an affair lol it's funny how it's always an affair as to why a player leaves. But yes it was a very reliable source that I heard from and im sure that not a lot of people who read this will believe it and I don't really care. It most definitely happened or something very close to it.
If this timeline of the small group coming together to ask if they could sort it out (Florida trip) then it exactly shows the moment Management and Miller called out Pettersson for showing up to camp out of shape for a second straight season.
The thing I would like to point out is the rumour about Miller being tasked by management with toughening up Petey makes very little sense with what we know now. It's probably best to stop reporting it as a thing that happened in the timeline.
Miller needs to control his emotions and become more professional. I personally don't see either the Canucks or the Rangers being much of a factor in the playoffs, assuming they even make it.
Myers was upset because he and Miller were best buds. There is a video of Canucks in cars from like 2 years ago showing that they are good friends. So it wasn't him being surprised, just sad to see his friend go. This entire situation fking blows being a Canuck fan.. like the fact we had the season we did then crushed it with internal issues is like pulling teeth out..
If this is true that the Canucks' mgmt. asked JT Miller to toughen Elias Petterson up, then you can hardly blame JT Miller for being too hard on him as this basically confirms the mgmt. see Petterson's softness as a problem as well.
From a source : I remember when she first started working for the Canucks she was staying with the Millers at their Pennsylvania home for a bit in the summer, doing a story on JT in the off season. I was put off a bit because it seemed a bit like she was flirting with JT but I didn’t really know her then. Over the season I really got put off her. I thought it was just her grating voice but it was also her “puck bunny” vibe. I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt, and she seemed to know the game well enough and I believe was from a hockey family. But she is one of those women other women sometimes look at like “girllll….” 🤨 when around their husbands or boyfriends. The new reporter, Olivia, is nothing like that. These are only lurid rumours but I have to say, if true it would explain an awful lot of things!
It must be the reason Kate Pettersen also moved on and is now employed with The Fourth Period. There was no reason given by the Canucks about her departure and her replacement Olivia McDonald came just one year after they hired her. Kate wore some pretty revealing dresses during her interviews and it would not surprise me in the least I'm not placing the blame solely on Kate as both are equally to blame if that was the real reason. If that is indeed the truth behind what happened, we should be apologizing to and thanking Petey as he was used as a smoke screen and took one for the team.
Because this is the media's job. If you don't want to hear about it, don't click on the video. It's like complaining that there's nudity on one channel. If you don't like it, change the channel. Nobody forced you to click on these videos. The job of media, corporate and independent, is to bring you information. If you've heard enough, don't watch it.
Why is mgmt asking another player to toughen up another player? Makes no sense. Isn't that the coaches job? It's not a player's job to do anything to another player unless it's vet showing the ropes to a rookie.
@@sucraf1 Well I’m telling you you’re wrong, a coach may ask a this exact thing if a coach perceives a player is too soft and needs to learn to be tougher. How exactly to you expect a coach or GM to do this without that.
@@chrisdranfield3828 I guess you really can't read. LMAO. I never said it doesn't happen. I said it make no sense and that's the coach's job to coach players. I guess you never played hockey. It's called practice and coaches teaches players at that time. HAHA.
@@chrisdranfield3828 And yeah, coaches tells other players all the time to toughen up guys like Gretzky, McDavid and Bedard and so on because they aren't tough enough. HAHAHAHA. Again, this doesn't make sense. I guess you don't have any common sense.
This is a story that will keep on giving as it slowly comes out what really went on. Petey will be shipped, as he should be. Petulant, soft, diminutive, streaky, not a leader, overpaid, sulky..etc. And...he and Miller blew up this team. Good riddance.
Washed up crybaby gets benched one day then leaves the next for quite personal reasons! Hurt his ego and he cry’s and leaves the team lol! Vancouver should be happy this guy is gone! Hot head and cancer! He even got physical with their own video coach I’m hearing now!
I'm not a fan of anyone or any team mentioned here. But it sure seems like JT Miller is the stereotypical alpha male type. Maybe abrasive and hard to get along with because he expects excellence from himself and from other very highly paid teammates. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see Miller get traded 2 or 3 times at trade deadline and end up winning a couple cups before he retires. It's a story that has happened before in the NHL.
Lego. That is not how 'top dogs' sort out. Haha. Just because you have more points, that is not where you settle in the Alpha matrix. A fascinating thing to see is when a room full of Alphas sort out. Sometimes it surprises you. You need to experience it.
Dude, get one thing straight: As a national team athlete myself, performance (games and training) is indeed how you settle things. Once you are at the echelon there is indeed a pecking order, but it is not based on stupid bar fights OR tense stare downs like you imply. I never had a low-level athlete approach me to challenge me, whether in team sports or individual sports. Ever. Do you know why? I dominated the gym, the training room (rehab) and the competition. They watched and learned. Nobody questioned anything. Except you and you never made it. This is professionalism. You put up or shut up. Now to the current issue: When it comes to Miller vs EP40 it is a little bit more even but there still is a pecking order. Miller was clearly confused as to who is on top. And he clearly did not shut up. Lunacy.
The basic issue in the Miller-Petterson story is because of the old saying about hockey players: "There's two kinds of players --- guys who show up to play hockey, and hockey players". Petterson is a guy who shows up to play hockey. Miller is a hockey player. There is a big difference.
You show your own ignorance in your words. Markus Pettersson - look him up. Mancini -- look him up. Chytil -- Look him up. Drew O'Connor -- Look him up. What did we give up? A top player in a mental breakdown who needed to go for his health. A forward who got off to a hot start, then didn't do much after. A defenceman who wasn't working out, and a guy who Tocchett would never play, to get guys who fill holes in our lineup, and who we can flip for the talent we need, who are not suffering mental breakdowns or who coming here could clear them up from one. And we got CAP SPACE. I know if you became a Canucks fan during the Benning Contracts era, you probably have no clue what that is, but it means, we can sign free agents, make moves before the deadline to bring in a new franchise player, we can keep our players with expiring contracts, and not have to pick and choose who we have to let go for nothing. We have options, in other words. Look these things up and learn what they are. You'll become smarter if you do.
This wasn't just miller vs petey. Miller's departure from the team back in November was forced by the organization because he got physical with the video coach. Miller is a great player and has his moments of being a great teammate but he can't control his emotions and that's what is the locker room cancer. Hes gone now so let's move on from talking about him
Really how do you hear that?? Stop the cap
Actually this isn't too far from what I had heard too.
He has issues with Petey, he got physical with the video coach, he had an affair. Which one or all three? The 2 later ones, he should of been suspended or have his contract terminated for breach of contract.
Source ?
@@KyleMacSkill i never heard anything about an affair lol it's funny how it's always an affair as to why a player leaves. But yes it was a very reliable source that I heard from and im sure that not a lot of people who read this will believe it and I don't really care. It most definitely happened or something very close to it.
If this timeline of the small group coming together to ask if they could sort it out (Florida trip) then it exactly shows the moment Management and Miller called out Pettersson for showing up to camp out of shape for a second straight season.
WHO CARES?! Move forward.
The thing I would like to point out is the rumour about Miller being tasked by management with toughening up Petey makes very little sense with what we know now. It's probably best to stop reporting it as a thing that happened in the timeline.
It isn't the first time JT has been traded away for similar issues can we establish that much
Miller needs to control his emotions and become more professional. I personally don't see either the Canucks or the Rangers being much of a factor in the playoffs, assuming they even make it.
Myers was upset because he and Miller were best buds. There is a video of Canucks in cars from like 2 years ago showing that they are good friends. So it wasn't him being surprised, just sad to see his friend go. This entire situation fking blows being a Canuck fan.. like the fact we had the season we did then crushed it with internal issues is like pulling teeth out..
If this is true that the Canucks' mgmt. asked JT Miller to toughen Elias Petterson up, then you can hardly blame JT Miller for being too hard on him as this basically confirms the mgmt. see Petterson's softness as a problem as well.
??? If management did that they'd take the Buffalo deal for Petey. Gotta to be smthg else.
The Canucks nor any other NHL teams have "lock rooms".
It's over now, but let's keep talking about it.
Jt Miller 2 goals and 2 assists in 2 games ..He is happy again ..And thats the best revenge
He started strong with Tampa too, and then......
Rumour has it He had an affair with Nux female blonde reporter that is not there this year. His wife found out and he took leave away from team
From a source : I remember when she first started working for the Canucks she was staying with the Millers at their Pennsylvania home for a bit in the summer, doing a story on JT in the off season. I was put off a bit because it seemed a bit like she was flirting with JT but I didn’t really know her then. Over the season I really got put off her. I thought it was just her grating voice but it was also her “puck bunny” vibe. I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt, and she seemed to know the game well enough and I believe was from a hockey family. But she is one of those women other women sometimes look at like “girllll….” 🤨 when around their husbands or boyfriends. The new reporter, Olivia, is nothing like that.
These are only lurid rumours but I have to say, if true it would explain an awful lot of things!
What does any of this have to do with Petey and getting benched?
It must be the reason Kate Pettersen also moved on and is now employed with The Fourth Period. There was no reason given by the Canucks about her departure and her replacement Olivia McDonald came just one year after they hired her. Kate wore some pretty revealing dresses during her interviews and it would not surprise me in the least I'm not placing the blame solely on Kate as both are equally to blame if that was the real reason. If that is indeed the truth behind what happened, we should be apologizing to and thanking Petey as he was used as a smoke screen and took one for the team.
When men can no longer work together its usually a women 😂
Kind of like Kesler sleeping with Kristen Reid and Cory Schneiders wife. Kristen Reid got let go the next week.
Love the honesty at the start man hahahaha. Get them clicks bro
Lol, Adam fox in same tier as Hughes.
Why we still doing dis
Because this is the media's job. If you don't want to hear about it, don't click on the video. It's like complaining that there's nudity on one channel. If you don't like it, change the channel. Nobody forced you to click on these videos. The job of media, corporate and independent, is to bring you information. If you've heard enough, don't watch it.
@@christhornycroft3686 i bet your legorocks, on a fake account. shutup
You don’t have to watch it, that’s the wonder of it, haha! 😂
Because the real problem is still here
skip the fluff: 2:38
Petey better improve his play or he will sink on his own and no longer be a Canuck.
Is pronounced Van(g)couver fyi
Good trade for all parties
Time to shut up this old news.
Why is mgmt asking another player to toughen up another player? Makes no sense. Isn't that the coaches job? It's not a player's job to do anything to another player unless it's vet showing the ropes to a rookie.
Not true leaders on any team are tasked with lots of other things by coaches.
@@chrisdranfield3828 I guess you can't read? Yes, vets shows young guys the ropes. You don't ask another player to toughen up another player. LMAO.
@@sucraf1
Well I’m telling you you’re wrong, a coach may ask a this exact thing if a coach perceives a player is too soft and needs to learn to be tougher.
How exactly to you expect a coach or GM to do this without that.
@@chrisdranfield3828 I guess you really can't read. LMAO. I never said it doesn't happen. I said it make no sense and that's the coach's job to coach players. I guess you never played hockey. It's called practice and coaches teaches players at that time. HAHA.
@@chrisdranfield3828 And yeah, coaches tells other players all the time to toughen up guys like Gretzky, McDavid and Bedard and so on because they aren't tough enough. HAHAHAHA. Again, this doesn't make sense. I guess you don't have any common sense.
This is a story that will keep on giving as it slowly comes out what really went on.
Petey will be shipped, as he should be. Petulant, soft, diminutive, streaky, not a leader, overpaid, sulky..etc. And...he and Miller blew up this team. Good riddance.
settle down youngblood
And. He (petey) can't bang anything!
Nah. McDavid and Drai blew up your team.
@@johanstinson take their smeat off ya lips
Washed up crybaby gets benched one day then leaves the next for quite personal reasons! Hurt his ego and he cry’s and leaves the team lol! Vancouver should be happy this guy is gone! Hot head and cancer! He even got physical with their own video coach I’m hearing now!
Washed up , he had a career year just last season.
You can argue about his attitude , but he is not washed up.
I'm not a fan of anyone or any team mentioned here. But it sure seems like JT Miller is the stereotypical alpha male type. Maybe abrasive and hard to get along with because he expects excellence from himself and from other very highly paid teammates. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see Miller get traded 2 or 3 times at trade deadline and end up winning a couple cups before he retires. It's a story that has happened before in the NHL.
Lego. That is not how 'top dogs' sort out. Haha. Just because you have more points, that is not where you settle in the Alpha matrix. A fascinating thing to see is when a room full of Alphas sort out. Sometimes it surprises you. You need to experience it.
Ya if your not an alpha yourself it's hard to understand alphas. I'm like j.t Miller I would hate playing on my team lol
Dude, get one thing straight: As a national team athlete myself, performance (games and training) is indeed how you settle things. Once you are at the echelon there is indeed a pecking order, but it is not based on stupid bar fights OR tense stare downs like you imply. I never had a low-level athlete approach me to challenge me, whether in team sports or individual sports. Ever. Do you know why? I dominated the gym, the training room (rehab) and the competition. They watched and learned. Nobody questioned anything. Except you and you never made it. This is professionalism. You put up or shut up. Now to the current issue: When it comes to Miller vs EP40 it is a little bit more even but there still is a pecking order. Miller was clearly confused as to who is on top. And he clearly did not shut up. Lunacy.
The basic issue in the Miller-Petterson story is because of the old saying about hockey players: "There's two kinds of players --- guys who show up to play hockey, and hockey players". Petterson is a guy who shows up to play hockey. Miller is a hockey player. There is a big difference.
Who made this trade? Stevie Wonder? Canucks gave up best player and robbed blind.
You know blind ppl can talk as well, riiiight?
You show your own ignorance in your words. Markus Pettersson - look him up. Mancini -- look him up. Chytil -- Look him up. Drew O'Connor -- Look him up.
What did we give up? A top player in a mental breakdown who needed to go for his health. A forward who got off to a hot start, then didn't do much after. A defenceman who wasn't working out, and a guy who Tocchett would never play, to get guys who fill holes in our lineup, and who we can flip for the talent we need, who are not suffering mental breakdowns or who coming here could clear them up from one. And we got CAP SPACE. I know if you became a Canucks fan during the Benning Contracts era, you probably have no clue what that is, but it means, we can sign free agents, make moves before the deadline to bring in a new franchise player, we can keep our players with expiring contracts, and not have to pick and choose who we have to let go for nothing. We have options, in other words. Look these things up and learn what they are. You'll become smarter if you do.
i told you all...miller choked pettersen out after the nashville game...
Source?
There is no "arguably".
Fox is absolutely in the exact same tier as Hughes and Makar. There is no debate about that