Ex- childcare worker here. There is a huge amount of programming and activities plus free play for children including for individual children for centre accreditation. The standards are quite high
standards are very high, but they do need to check carefully. Check the food, resources and parents ned to spend some time there orienting their children, the more the better so that can see more of the day to day happenings and get to know the educators a bit more. Good centres will welcom families in to spend time at the centre, and be a part of their community.
You have to be careful watching people from outside of Australia explaining major things. They often only have a very basic understanding of what happens. Do your research for the state you wish to reside in and go to the government sites to get accurate info. There are many forms of help for the average Joe. There are a lot of middle-class families that the system is designed to help. I do enjoy your videos and how alike our countries are in what we say and like.
Having some personal experience of the Australian education system, (both first hand and via our three children) including private and public schools, I found the video to be well researched and accurate while making it clear each State has variations and that you need to do your own research. And, for what it’s worth, the presenter lives in Australia and learnt English ahead of completing a Masters Degree at an Australian University - I’m impressed.
I work at a Kindergarten in Japan, and it is intense like Malaysia. My grandson goes to kindergarten in Sydney and I think there they have a better balance of learning, play and social skills.
Retired Aussie teacher. There is a curriculum pre schools and schools have to follow from 3 years old. Her info isn’t very comprehensive or even correct. Cost is also going to depend on your residence status, and school is some places is required until 17. But that can include trade training. States operate their own education departments but there is a national curriculum. Most states follow it to varying degrees from loosely to closely.
Her info is specifically for foreigners coming to Australia, she makes that clear at the start. That's what her channel is for. Thats why she isn't talking about child care subsidies/rebates, because foreigners aren't getting it.
Matt, let me just say that friends of mine lived in Malaysia for a few years. When they returned home to Oz.. the level of knowledge the kids had was truly impressive. Regarding education in Australia, each state decides on the education policies individually, and there are differences. However, overall, either public or private schools, we are very fortunate. If you moved here, most schools have wonderful open playing grounds and a combination of small or large schools. It's a good environment.
Public schools are great. It’s parenting that makes the difference, every single time. Public schools are tolerant, accepting, diverse and open minded.
@@kerryryan5116 whilst there is a national curriculum, it is up to the states to incorporate it, as each state is in charge of its own education system. As such how closely it is followed varies by state. Each state will issue its own curriculum guidance. So in actuality, it is up to the states.
The problem with most people who have gone through that intensive learning framework is that they're smart enough to remember what they're taught, but not smart enough to question it.
Just wanted to comment on NSW system. I have actually used both community based preschool and private preschool. Both were very good and my children attended until they turned 5. Started Kindergarten the February after turning 5 at local public school (they went to 3 different schools due to work changes) all were very similar and my children had no trouble going from one to another as the curriculum was similar. When my eldest turned 9 we homeschooled her so her educational needs could be met (a personalised programme set up and taught by me according to state curriculum standards and was monitored yearly). My son moved to catholic school (age 6). Our fees were on the lower scale as it was a outer suburb of Sydney. All up including uniforms was $3000 a year which we paid in installments. My son completed primary school through that system (age 11). When high school came around he moved to local catholic high school. These fees jumped and the uniform was more expensive our annual fees and uniform came to just under $6000 including camps and other expenses. We also experienced financial difficulties and had our fees waived for 3 terms with no need to pay back, we are also not catholic. Catholic schools do have to admit a certain number of non-catholics but you must sign that you will respect their faith. Year 9 (age 14) my son was registered for Distance Education, this was provided through online services and was brilliant as he could work at his own pace. He continued this until end of Year 10. This did have a cost as you needed to be online but was only about $500 same as local public school no school uniform needed. Year 11 & 12 was done at a regional public highschool and it was great. School fees were not compulsory but cost for some subjects where such as food tech and tafe accredited courses. The uniform was also very easy polo shirts with school badge and black shorts and enclosed shoes. I spent approx $500 on school uniforms over the 2 years. I have found the various school systems in Australia to be very good. Love to see you move to Australia.
My kids loved pre-school, singing, being read books , art, playing etc. to socialise them from 3 I never used Day-care. They attended public schools and did well.
Same here. The best decision my ex and I ever made was to both go half-time (I know not many people can swing this) on the Wednesday afternoon when we were both working my dad came over and looked after his granddaughter. He loved it and it was not too much for him, just one afternoon per week.
Did the same, refused FIFO, found a good paying mining job locally that allowed me to be home every night and only worked 7 Days/fortnight, tied in with the ex-missus aligning a permanent casual job to cover the days when I was at work........ managed a good income, had at least one parent at home 24/7, never put in daycare once, every weekend off as a full family and never missed a single day of their lives ❤ It's heartbreaking the division of parent/kids time these days with life so difficult that kids barely see their parents because they have to both spend so much time away working just to put food on the table 😢
@@docbob3030 Hey mate, I understand your pain re breaking up and kids. It's the worst. On the positive you and your ex gave them an excellent start by both being there for them. The early years are the most important and it sounds like you made the most of them.
Thanks for mentioning that. It has been going for decades now, providing a unique and invaluable service. Way back in the 50's and 60's, there was an associated service to give children from far western NSW a week at Manly, a famous Sydney beachside suburb. I don't know if that's still going, nor any costs involved.
the government kindergarten I used to live near did lots of activities - they grew and harvested their vegetables, had lots of equipment inside and outside to play on. they did singing, had stories read to the children. they did lots of art things. Occasions they had well supervised excursions where they visited places. They had some fish in a big tank that they looked after. They sometimes made things and then ate what they created. All the children seemed very happy. NO uniforms at that kindergarten that was near me. Whereas the more expensive private schools do run programs for children under 5 - they do have uniforms - and eventually go on to grade one at the same private school. We worked out that we could afford a private education. I appreciated the very small classes in the private school they attended - as opposed to a much bigger number of students in each classroom in the government schools. I also appreciated how diligent the private schools were in giving extra support to any student who was falling behind in primary schools - and that continued for any student who needed it - and no extra fees were added to cover the cost of that extra one on one tutoring, where needed. Also the students were consistently respectful, courteous and well mannered - any time a parent was at the private school the students were so polite to any parents - including addressing the mother or father as "good morning mrs ******". Or "good afternoon Mr ******" In a much bigger government school it is likely than students would not know which adult was a parent of .."who?"
International students can enrol in public schools, but their parents must pay for it. It costs between $14,000 to $18,000 per year depending if they are in primary or high school. The cost may vary from state to state.
Childcare is heavily subsidised by the Government. Its quite affordable. Kindergarten is about to be free and compulsory in some states from 3 years old. Public school is effectively free. Private school comes at a cost, most are associated with Catholic/Christian education and the fees vary. Private catholic primary can be as little as little as $2k a year, and additional children come with significant discounts. Secondary probably starts at about $6K a year.
Term 1 Feb 1 to Easter/April, then 2 week break. Then end April to end June for term 2, 2 week break. Term 3 July to end September, 2 week break. October to Mid December, 5 week break (few days/weeks variance depending on school). Catholic schools are still private.
Bias opinion, but I rekn you'll find private (religious or other) out perform public schools. I'm certain the data will suggest that both attendance levels, behavioral standards and educational outcomes etc. rate higher. There is also heaps of them.
If you are looking at education in Australia, and aren't a permanent resident, my understanding is that if you go with the public education system, then you will have to pay the overseas prices which depending on the private school that you choose would be pretty similar in costs (the same way that overseas students pay way more than locals at Uni). Otherwise it depends on the school you are looking at for what subjects they offer, extra curriculars etc.
All schooling is subsidised. Govt schools get the most funding for the worst outcomes. Low-fee non-govt schools are funded at a lower level but get better results.
Societies entire structure is geared into getting both parents to work because that way the repayment capacity of loans is higher meaning more can be charged for housing. Childcare is the most essential part of this system as it allows parents to outsource their parenting freeing up time to repay home mortgages. Australia in a nutshell.
Each State likes to be different. Holidays - School has 4 terms. Holidays 2 weeks at Easter, 2 weeks in June/July/ and 2weeks Sept. Xmas Holidays are from mid December to end January /beginning February. so 6 weeks. Private school /boarding schools (we have boarding schools because of the remote kids usually do Senior school away from home) has fees.
@@CeasefireNow2024 I had to read the comment twice. She never said SHE didn’t pay it, not at any point. Are you saying in general people who don’t or can’t pay it are stingy? Sounds like you’re coming from a place of privilege and obviously not a teacher. Teachers would never say derogatory things about families who can’t pay their fees, Schools understand the individual circumstances of families who have children in their care and this would never cross their minds. In fact, quite the opposite is true, if families can’t pay for uniforms or excursions or even lunches, they are the first to dip their hands in their pockets to help. I was a teacher and I have bought pens, lunches, payed for excursions many times, any teacher will do that when they know families are feeling the pinch. Never once do we consider them stingy or poor parents, we consider they need a bit of help at this point in time for whatever reason, whether it’s employment related, family loss, illness or any of the myriad of reasons people sometimes can’t pay their bills. A bit of sensitivity please!
@@CeasefireNow2024The purpose of those back to school payments when brought in was to provide for items like uniforms, school shoes, devices and stationery needed for school to alleviate financial pressures on families. They were and are still not intended to go directly to the school. The principle of free compulsory and secular education goes back to the 19th Century in Australia. No family has an obligation to pay for school, especially if they are struggling to put food on the table and keep a roof over their heads.
@@MsJubjubbird ‘leaned on’? Not where I come from. And, not in the schools where I have taught. I am sorry you felt compelled or intimidated to pay it. The money does go to important projects that benefits the kids as well as directly impacting their learning and maybe your school was too enthusiastic about that. I don’t know. I worked in regions that weren’t affluent and families did experience struggles so that never happened to them. Even so, parents did try to pay when they could as they knew it was going to benefit their kids. If you can afford to pay a very low fee that is subsidised, you should, no question. When I put my kids through school, there wasn’t even a question in my mind about paying it or not paying it. When excursion notes came home with a breakdown of the costs, I payed it, no questions were raised in my mind. If school uniform prices went up, I gave them what they needed and buying the uniforms through the school was always cheaper than buying them at stores like Lowes. If I were to not pay when I was easily capable of doing so, then the word for not paying it, wouldn’t be stingy.
I went to family daycare, so our Nanny ran a daycare out of her home, paying per hour was way cheaper as she cared for me and my 3 siblings together, did school pick-up and drop off as it continued well into Primary/highschool. Apparently it was the cheapest option for multiple siblings
There's no difference if you choose public or private schools in education quality...the money goes into the extra activities the school offers (that you technically already paid for even if you don't use it). The education that matters is either uni or trade school. In Australia a tradesman gets paid well....very well once fully qualified and usually isnt stuck with enormous education debt. But it all depends on what career path they choose.
It depends on what zone you live in. Local areas with good high schools can add about 10% onto housing prices just because people want their kids to be eligible to go to that public high school. Private schools to have tools to attract better teachers, the class sizes are smaller, the discipline is more rigid, there is more monitoring of individual students, there are often more cocurriculars available at no extra cost and they might have access to better facilities- like maybe pools for swimming lessons, photography studios, better science equipment, musical instruments etc.. The only criticism I have of some private schools is they don't always expose kids to socioeconomic diversity and solving problems on their own.
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4:13 when i was a nipper in NSW we had kindergarten which i went to before i started school, daycare basically. Then infants school which encompassed preschool (now known as prep) first year and second year. You then went to primary school for years 3 to 6 then high school until year 12. They have combined infants school and primary together. Prep is an intro year to ease kids into the school process. They learn basic letters, numbers, shapes, colours, etc.
As long as you’re living in a pretty average area, public schools are fine, I put my daughter in a private school for 2 years, but that was because they had a creative arts program that was better than any public primary school in Australia, I moved us to the catchment area for a (Public) senior college in Canberra for the same reason.
Traditionally schools were once infants (K-Y2) & Primary (Y3-Y6) in separate parts of the school. But progress meant schools were combined in some very old school you will see separate entrances for boys & girls in the brickwork. I remember Crown St Public School was built this way & it is a very old school from 1850 or so. As our population has grown schools have added more school rooms. My old school (Est 1899) has reused all the old classrooms, making the old principal's office into a Preschool & the oldest classrooms moved back into use.
Main school holidays are in Summer, usually mid dec - end jan/early feb. The year is then split up in to 4 terms of approximately 10 weeks, with two weeks of holidays between each.
It's school holidays now and there is a lot of alternative schooling options, which is good. Before and afternoon care, while they are in primary school. Childcare centres are expensive, so depends on your income. Kindy is optional, but good for getting children ready for Prep, which includes set routine but not as involved as your son is doing there. The High Schools goes to year 12. I don't know of any public schools, that finish before year 12. Not all schools are zoned either. It would be great for you and your family to live here.
The first thing you should do is decide what state or territory you want to live. Then you can do all the research in that state etc. The best way to look at Australia is that each state runs its own affairs, that's why there are different rules and regulations etc. As for schools, there are many good govt schools and i don't think it necessary to pay the exorbitant private school fees.
Best to choose a regional city, WA has great options. Tax policy changes depending on govt, but not as much as US & UK, you can chose more intence school if you want, no phones allowed in most schools.
In SA at least Family Day Care is registered and monitored and supported VERY well by the Education Department. the biggest problem with Australia's Public Education system is that it was totally ripped off by the Liberal Party with john Howard 20+ years ago. He ramped up private Schools' funding and cut public ... very MAGA. It is heart-breaking seeing how they effectively dismantled it. (an ex site-principal of Early Childhood Education here) Kindergartens also have registered teachers on staff, but it is NOT like school as you describe it.
If public schools are feeling the pinch, it's because of Labor's mismanagement, and nothing to do with the miniscule funding private and catholic schools get from the government.
@@wildwomanofthewoods I am no fan of Labor, but this? "the miniscule funding private and catholic schools get from the government." It's time to look at the facts.
@@wildwomanofthewoods. The Australian Government (the Commonwealth) provides recurrent funding for every student enrolled at a school. In 2024, recurrent funding for schools is estimated to total $29.2 billion. This includes $11.3 billion (38.7%) to government schools (with 63.9% of all students), $9.9 billion (33.9%) to Catholic schools (with 18.5% of all students) and $8.1 billion (27.7%) to independent schools (with 17.6% of all students).
Australian Children at primary and secondary school get about 6 weeks of holidays between December and January/February and 3 periods of holidays of about 2 weeks which divide up the school year into terms
Childcare has just been made free in my State. When I lived in Victoria the Government subsidised most of it. Try listening to an Australian expert. My children to State schools and Private Catholic schools. Not just Catholic schools. My youngest was adopted from South Korea and she went through so many racist attacks daily from girls and female teachers. Until they made her sick. I finally got her into a public school out of our area for years 11 and 12. This school always finished in the top three schools in Victoria with the highest grades and the most students accepted into the best Universities. The best part was zero tolerance for racism. She was told before she started if one student or teacher made one racist remark they would be told to leave immediately. It was an amazing free, public high school that some very wealthy parents tried everything to get their children into. They even bought second homes in the school area, rented them out but put that address down as theirs. One day while my daughter was there they did a big house check and over 80 students were thrown out. I know it took me four years to get my daughter a place there but she had two really happy years before University. My Granddaughter went to that school for 6 years. She graduated this year as a research Scientist with her Bachelor’s degree, Honours degree, Masters degree and Doctorate. I had never before seen a high school that offered so much to every students different needs for free. The woman who does this video gets a lot wrong and not just in this video.
There are public schools (free) that are selective high schools. From top 3% or higher, on entrance exam or top of primary school. These schools offer similar education to top private schools but are free. There were about 7 in Sydney 30 years ago.
My Grandson and Granddaughter, both went to an Independent Secondary School. They did have too pay for excursions and uniforms etc, but there weren’t any school fees and the schools population was a lot smaller than public schools and there was a lot more diversity because they also had Music and Acting studies plus all the Sporting Activities. I should say we live in Perth and I think every state has its own curriculum and we are a much smaller population than The East Coast but they both did great and my youngest Granddaughter has got her Uni degree in Secondary School History Teaching and my Grandson is married and works in the Portable Housing Industry. My eldest Granddaughter went to a really good Secondary Public School, and she works in the Prison’s Department. She’s worked her way up from a Prison Officer to now working in the Office as 2nd in charge. I am hugely proud of them all and I think the schools they went to have helped them to become great people. Also with Daycare and Kindergarten especially here in Perth are fairly are a lot cheaper than what the lady said, as the Government has fairly chunky subsidies for little kids.🇦🇺😘
My 2 siblings and I went to western suburbs private schools. Someone asked my dad if he would recommend it, he said, " I wish I had just bought them a house each".
The reason for the differences between the states is that education is a state not federal responsibility. There are standards that must be satisfied that are set by the feds.
Although there is a national curriculum, under the Australian Constitution each state government has the responsibility for providing education to children within that state. It is why you need to research education in the state in which you are considering living. It's also why there is different terminology and different starting ages of compulsory education from state to state. Here in Western Australia education becomes compulsory from the year in which your child turns 5 years and 6 months and is compulsory until the end of the year in which they turn 17 years and 6 months or turn 18 (whichever comes first). The first compulsory grade is Pre-primary (and is full time schooling) but there is also a Kindergarten program available in state schools which is not compulsory and is part time for younger children. Kindergarten and pre-primary are play based, though structured to introduce phonics, numeracy, etc., with explicit instruction included, as it leads into grade 1. School holidays start and finish dates vary slightly from state to state but work on the same basic premise of 4 terms, with the first 3 terms having a 2 week holiday break after each term but the longer school holidays for Christmas/summer, of around 6 weeks, start at the completion of term 4. School reports are provided to parents at the end of term 2 and term 4 (end of semester 1 and semester 2). Be aware that like other countries, Australia's travel costs skyrocket during school holidays periods and you need to be aware of the differences between the states as it may mean week 2 of your holiday in another state may suddenly cost twice the price of week 1 because the school holidays in the state you are visiting start that second week you are there. Accredited child care centres, for young children under the compulsory school age, are also expected to provide structured play based curriculum, required to have a qualified teacher in charge of that. Using only accredited child care providers allows parents to access government subsidies (if parental income meets eligibility criteria). There is a myriad of private/independent schools also available, having to meet the state government's curriculum and other requirements (such as teacher registration, etc.) - not all religious based but some based upon educational philosophies such as Steiner, Montessori, etc.
"under the Australian Constitution each state government has the responsibility for providing education to children within that state" - perhaps you could set out the constitutional provision by direct quotation. I'm not aware of any.
Firstly, glad to hear you are thinking of moving to Australia. Our Education system is generally very good. To throw a spanner in the works (sorry), my 17 year old daughter attends an Independent School that is a State Government School, without the high costs of private Independent Schools. It is a School for high achievers in Math, Physics, Science, and Technology. Something for everyone in Australia.
She also missed the Montessori Schools. These have a very good reputation and allow children to go at their own pace and those that may not fit in, for what ever reason. Have met the principal and children of these schools - and they are VERY intelligent and well adjusted.
TLDR: The reason why each state often has different names for things or their school system works a bit differently is because each state in Australia is sort of like its own country with its own values and laws. But all of those states got together under a single federal government which sets specific rules that all the states must follow. But outside those specific rules, the states have their own leader, make their own laws and do their own thing. The different states in Australia are actually all completely different colonies that were founded by different people from different places, with different ideals, goals and values. In 1901 all of the states voted to join together or to "federate" under The Commonwealth of Australia. But each state remained autonomous. They make their own laws, call things by their own name and have their own way of doing things. But they are united under a federal constitution. Just like America is. So like America, which has 50 states and a number of territories, Australia also has States and Territories. And each state is kind of like its own country with its own leader and its own laws, traditions and values. But all of those countries united to become one single nation and agreed on a set of shared rules that they would all follow. Everything outside those specific shared rules is up to each country (state) individually. The United States of America is a Republic, but it is actually also a federation, just like Australia. America basically works the same way as Australia does, except the structure of the federal government is different. Americans elect their leader (President) directly, which is where the republic part comes in. That President then appoints the people they want to join their Administration (Cabinet) and run all the different departments of the federal government. America has a Federal Congress and a Federal Senate. Australia has A House of Representatives (Congress) and we also have a Senate. But in Australia we elect a bunch of different people from different parties (mainly two, but really one) to form a Parliament. And the party that has the most members and holds a majority in the House of Reps becomes the party that forms government. But its the party that chooses its leader and that person becomes the Prime Minister. Then that Prime Minister chooses his cabinet (Administration). And those members become Ministers who run each department of the federal government. This is called the Westminster system. Which is actually what the United States Republic system is based off.
We sent our sons to an excellent public school for their Primary years here in Melbourne. We opted for Private school for years 7 to 12, which was perfect for them although expensive.
Smart move - I look at my old high school & wonder how we survived. My cousin went to a Christian School which was a waste of money as he bummed out of TAFE. He could have gone with me & a younger neighbour but his family spent all this money. NOW - I would never send anyone to my old high school but would select the Private School.
Children start public school at the age of 5 in NSW if you turn 5 before July and start the following year if you turn 5 in the later part of the year. School is mostly free but some schools ask for a small donation to help cover costs. Plus there is the purchase of books and stationary. I think your son would be ahead of class. However they do start to learn to read, simple math and a range of social studies at this age. They get homework but it’s not very hard.
I’m a pom I have lived here in Western Australia for 22 years, the public school system here is very good, they also have a gates system here ( Gifted and talented students) which is good if you have a bright kid, also what she did not say is that it can cost around 600 to a thousand dollars to send you kid to school aside from uniforms you have to pay for a school list every year which covers everything from text books pens and pencils calculators and even boxes off tissues to blow your kids nose lol
Australia would be similar to the Brittan. We have both public and private schools. Private schools and child care can be very expensive. Public schools normaly let you choose what you want to pay. With public schools, the quality can differ from states and territories, so do your research. If you have any kids with learning difficulties or other issues then I would think public schools might be better. If you have smart, organised kids, then private schools might be better, but again, they are normaly quite expensive. I am from Canberra and public schools are very good but this may not be the case in some low income areas of Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane. Canberra is a good place to work and raise a family. People bag Canberra, but only because it is the Capital and they think it is boring. The main issue with Canberra, is that it is the 2nd most expensive city to live in Australia after Sydney. On average, it is more expensive than Melbourne and Brisbane. I was born in Melbourne and it is the most popular of the big cities. Sydney can get a bad rap overall, but I have family in Sydney, and it is fine overall. Adelaide is quite a cheap city from what I know. We used to make fun of Adelaide for being different but people from Adelaide love it. None of the major cities in Australia are bad to live in but the bigger the city the more traffic and tolls you may have to pay. I know in Sydney that parking in the city is very expensive. Like $20 a day but this was pre covid so it could be up to $30 a day. Trust me that is expensive. Sydney has a public metro system with trains and a light rail. Melbourne has a metro train system and is world famous for their trams too. Melbourne is one of the sporting capitals of the world. AFL, cricket, rugby, and football/soccer. It is also home of the world famous MGC (Cricket/AFL), Australian Open Grand Slam tennis, and the Australian Formula One Grand Prix. Next summer (2025/2026) Australia will be hosting the Ashes Cricket against England. We are currently playing India in a 5 match series. As I said I was born in Melbourne and Sport is like a religion in Melbourne. Not kidding you. So if you are not big on Sport then just be warned that you can't avoid it when living in Melbourne. People are obsessed about it. Mostly AFL (March to September) and Cricket (November to January)
I’ll simplify as much as possible for the state of New South Wales. Day care - ages 6months to 5/6yrs Primary- ages 5/6 kindergarten to yr6 High school - yr7 - yr 12. Compulsory A child can leave after yr 10 providingthey have full time employment/ Apprenticeship.
In regards to Kindergarten in Victoria, my 4 year old daughter started Kinder last year at age 2 years 8 months, because she started so early we qualified for a 3rd year of Kinder next year so by the time she hits Primary school in 2026 she will have completed 3 years of Kinder. As for cost, absolutely nothing, our program is completely funded by the state government and it’s currently for 3 days per week 5 hours per day. The sort of activity they get up to are basic reading and writing, arts and crafts, kids safety and playtime amongst other things, the social aspect is invaluable because my daughter is an only child and needs that interaction. We further teach her spelling, reading and writing, math etc. at home, I would say given her current progress she will be able to write basic sentences, perform basic addition and subtraction and read simple children’s books before she hits the school system.
Basically, you leave the UK in first form in September and arrive in third form starting late January, skipping a year is because our education system is very poor, no 2nd language, school nurse, PE, hot lunches and "free" education or home work. It's bargain basement here...😢😮
Needs a bit more detail explained here... Childcare in Australia comes with government rebates dependent on your family income per year. So the day rate mat be $180 but you are out of pocket $60 dollars per day. On top of that, that is to care for your child between the hours of 6-7am until 6pm on a daily basis which includes meals and any consumables like nappies etc for the younger children. And these are rough amounts for a suburban private center based on my own personal experiences. If you are sending a child older than three to a standard public kindergarden that do not cover the above like meals, where the hours are shorter then you are not paying anything near to the above. Oh and the annual charge for public schools is actually voluntary contributions that most people don't realise and still pay. This is why people who do pay them can declare it is a deduction on their tax.
Childcare is increasingly being subsidized by the government but I'm unsure whether this would be available to immigrants. The Victoria government is also making kindergarten free or low-cost.
Childcare is increasingly being funded by *taxpayers* the Victorian government is also making kindergarten socially funded by taxpayers. None of it is free.
As Rosannebyrne7233 states, the leaving age is 17 unless the student has an apprenticeship or is enrolled in a TAFE (vocational course.) Each state has its own state governing dept, which regulates all schools, whether government, Religious (Catholic, Muslim, Jewish, Anglican, etc), Private or Selective (which your child needs to sit a selective entrance exam. Government and Selective have minimal costs, while Religious schools (e.g. Catholic)have a fee from $1000 for Kindergarten to $ 7000 in Year 12. Private schools have incredibly high fees, and you can expect to pay anything from $10000 to $40,000 per year depending on which year your child is in and what additional co-curriculars they do. Each Private school and religious school set their own fees. As your other viewers suggest, do your research. Each state and capital city's education system has various facilities to suit your and your child's needs.
Family day care is in the carers home. You use to be able to find child care places that incorporated kindergarten. Don’t know if they still do. Her information isn’t necessarily correct. Steiner schools are another option. I think other people have covered a lot of other points I’d be only raising again. Private schools only if you have the $’s to spend.
School systems vary from state to state. Individual schools can vary within a state. You need to do your research depending on where you intend to live.
Private schools are full of kids whose parents invest in education, during the school years your children will have a broader education and have friends whose parents are reasonably wealthy, but it doesn’t guarantee better jobs etc. my kids had both and there is good and bad in each. In public schools kids experience the real world where hard work has rewards but they can slip through the cracks if your not on top of it. Regardless, my experience is if you get involved then your kids will be ok.
When we moved from UK to Oz, the school tested me before I was put into a class. Though I was 9yo (Yr 5) the tests showed I was Y10 (age 15) in English/comprehension. I had some issues in maths though as the curriculum differed a bit.
I went to schooling the blue mountains in the 80s. Different syllabus back then. It was alot of Australian poetry and novels, classical 3 R's, history and aboriginal history. Plus we had outside survival studies. Camping, cooking, and survival training with aboriginal elders out in the wilderness learning to hunt and fish and identify edible native plants and How to cook; as well as drills on bushfires, cyclones, floods, draughts, first aid on dangerous animals etc etc. It was an intense but brilliant childhood. All this in primary school so we were hardened and ready for highschool.
My primary school was free but before or after school care was $2/day. Highschool was a boarding school and i got a full scholarship. That school was $30k per year plus uniform. To get a scholarship you have to take multiple exams and auditions.
Remember, Australia is in the southern hemisphere, so the seasons are the opposite of the northern hemisphere, and as such, setting a year/schooling system/ holidays to the northern hemispheres' system doesn't work for our seasons, like it does for the northern hemispheres' summer. So we operate on a calendar year, as the end of the year falls with our summer - hence our summer, new year, main holidays, events and Christmas and end of schooling - all occur during summer - to take advantage of summer. Otherwise we would have our main holidays in the middle of winter. And we would have to have a different Christmas date just for our southern hemisphere. Also our Christmas school break is roughly x6 weeks - with x3 fortnightly breaks, spread across the remainder of the year, making x4 school terms. Summer, Autumn, Winter and Spring. + / - days for difference between states/territories and public/private schools.
You can in NSW leave school after year 10 but you have to be going to TAFE if you do or have an apprenticeship. Other than this high school students go from year 7 to year 12. Primary is from kindergarten to year 6. Free education is called public school and private schools are very expensive. We couldn’t afford the fees. However the school they go to often depends on the area you live so you would need to be living in the area if you go public. I personally think the schools are quite good. I’m a grandparent now so we are into round two wth the grandchildren.
You also have to consider public schools are zone based. Meaning you have to live near the school to be able to go there. Those suburbs are highly sought after and not cheap to live in.
The first options they covered (childcare/home help) are for single working parents or families where both parents want to work. Hence the cost, as it's a private service. Once the kids reach kindy age, that's government provided.
I was a teacher in primary schools for 46 years and find that woman's thoughts are quite wrong in some respects. Here in Western Australia we have kindy and preprimary often on the same campus as the primary school. Kindy is for 3 yr olds and preschool is for 2 yrs. Primary is from the yr children turn 6 until yr 6 at age 11. High school is from yr7 - 12. Although there is an overarching curriculum there are some areas which may offer a more intense subject learning such as specialist in sport, music, art, performing art, sciences etc. Costs vary in amount depending on public or private school attendance. Our school terms are usually divided pretty evenly into 4 terms. Term 1 is end of January to April then 2 weeks off. Term 2 end of April till June then 2 weeks off. Term 3 is july till Sept/October then 2 weeks off. Term 4 is October to mid December and about 6-7 weeks off over summer till next end jan/feb
As a retired primary school teacher who has had children and has grandchildren in the state and private schools, primary and secondary, I worry about the pressure your child is being put under at such a young age. There is no need for it. Schools in Australia have a more holistic attitude to education and in the younger years much learning is done through enjoyable activities. At one particular secondary school that I know of, where many children from Asian families attended, the principal blew up at the parents because of the pressure they were applying to their children, eg. the parents refused to allow their children to participate in any activity that was not purely academically focused. Our family went to an academically select entry secondary school music concert where ethnically Asian children made up 95% of the over 100 participants ! We are now having second thoughts for our gifted child and grandchild and will do more research on the school population before letting him attend there. (He has Asian-Australian friends.)
I sent my children to a faith based private school. My school fees were only half of the amount she said an it included all curriculum and activities such as sports, excursions and camps.
In South Australia, I went to kindergarten then infant school(grades 1 & 2); primary school was grades 3 to 7, and high school was grades 8 to 12. That was the 50's and 60's. Then they had Early Learning Centres(replaced kindergarten), the Junior Primary(generally grades 1 to 3); then Primary(grades 4 to 6), which is followed by Junior High(grades 7 to 9) then Senior High(grades 10 to 12). Starting around 2020, public schools began to copy private schools; now Primary(1 to 6) and High(7 to 1) schools are now colleges.
While trying to judge if this is good value or not you need to bear in mind the minimum wage in Australia is $24.10 per hour or $915.90 per 38 hour week before tax.
Sayfol international school in Malaysia has an ex pat Principal who trained and taught in New Zealand, taught in the uk and has been in Malaysia quite a while. Check it out.
I have a Family Day Care, which provides child care in my home. I also care for children before and after school and provide holiday care, so I have children from babies up till 12. This woman is pretty much on the mark, except she's wrong about hours, fees, names, what the children do, and what sort of care is available 😆😆 . In your home care is pretty rare. Some people have nannies, but that's mostly people living in remote circumstances. Regarding the school year, like other countries our school year starts and finishes with summer, which here is December/Jan/Feb.
Hi & thank you for your videos. Australia is a very big country & some things are run by the Federal Government & others organised by the various States or Territories. Australia has a 3 tiered system of Government- Federal, State & Local. In general, children start school at age 5 years, depending on which half of the year they were born. If a child is attending some form of child care or Kindergarten, Pre School then those people help prepare children for school in the time just before they start school. It is not intense learning prior to starting school. Free Kindergarten is often not all day, every day of the week either & so because if all the pickup & drop offs for the hours they attend if parents are working the more appropriate option would be some form of child care where they attend for longer times. Childcare can be expensive. It is usually privately run so they charge what they charge based on them being profitable. In some places there might be local council run Pre School centres too. Au Pairs can be a viable option. Often the family will make their own arrangements to have a young person come out to Australia often from Europe & they are paid by the hour to look after children & occasional household chores. The host family usually provides a room for them to lodge with that family. I have known families where this has worked well & suits their needs better than alternatives. BTW with the Au Paire arrangements the children can be taken on outings to places where other children play etc as agreed by the parents. Schools are both Private or State run. It is definitely a requirement though for the children attending a State run school to live in the “catchment area” so if there’s a preferred school families often move nearby so their child might be able to attend that State School. I hope my general comments here are of some help to you.
First thing that'll impact your kids is they won't be able to continue learning the different languages in school, they'll have to have separate private tuition. Your best bet, cost wise and free of religion is the public schools unless you really are able to afford a private school.
Languages are taught in may schools. Ot depends on the resources available to each school and also the location. Religious education may be offered as an elective and in English you will study Christian texts.
Teacher from NSW here. There are so many inaccuracies in the video you are reacting to that it’s hard to target any single thing to advise you on. Our states are each separately responsible for specific areas such as education and health as part of Federation. That’s an important reason for different naming systems. In the past - and I believe it’s still the case- those who are not permanent residents need to pay for their children’s schooling and so many opt for private as it is not much more expensive. That is an important factor to consider. Systemic Catholic schools get less funding than state schools from the state, more from the federal govt but less funding overall because parents subsidise with the fees. There’s a whole history around that funding with the Goulburn School Strike if you want to go down that rabbit hole. Private schools get funding from the state and federal govt and that’s a big debate because some elite private schools get this funding in addition to enormous endowments and fees and amass more land and facilities. That Johnson Life might be a good channel to check out. He’s migrated to QLD as a teacher with kids.
My kids finished public school a few years ago in a regional area. I feel they were taught a lot less than when I was at school, especially regarding English, science, geography and history. Their primary school only had around 200 kids and they always had combined classes of different years which I wasn't a fan of.
If you want education but looking for a more affordable option, check out "selective" schools. Public but require a certain level of academic performance to attend
In Qld, Kindergarten and pre-school is just play and socialising, Prep is official school with proper structure and is counted as part of the Primary school years which now go to year 6. Primary is Prep (0) then 1 through to Year 6. Year 7 is now part of the High School curriculum which runs from year 7-12. Years 7-10 are Junior High, and 11-12 are senior High. It is part of the same school, but kids can leave in year 10 and go into the work force or a tech college, or if they want to continue through to Senior, are prepared for entry into Uni. Catholic schools are very open minded these days and though religion is taught, it is not strictly enforced. Children of all religions and from secular families are now attending Catholic school. Catholic school is a great way to get a more structured environment similar to private school, but are more affordable. Public can be hit and miss depending on the catchment you live in. You can't choose which public school you go to, they have to attend within a certain amount of kilometers of where they live, so that is something to consider if you want to go public. P.S. come to Qld, we rock.
My kids both went to a public primary school. However, now that my daughter is in high school, I have sent her to a Catholic school. My son will follow when he reaches high school. We are not Catholic but are religious. The catholic school has much better discipline in the school. I have heard there are a lot of wrong doings going on in the public high school where my daughter's friends go. Whereas in my daughter's school, if kids get caught doing these things, it is immediate expulsion. The public high school was never going to be an option for us. We are in New South Wales so when my kids were little, they went to a long day care. Kindergarten was the first year of primary school.
In Australia the individual States and territories are primarily responsible for their own education system, and it has been that way from way before Federation so it is reasonable that significant differences in subjects taught and terminology will exist between each State's system. The Federal government administration does have some oversight over the State's concerning education but this is probably more to do with setting and maintaining minimum standards that the schools in general should reach rather than setting out in detail any curriculum. The Federal government's education department is mainly responsible for universities, and thus as many students do eventually feed into these universities, often in a different state to their former education there is an increased pressure on many of the more elite schools and even public schools to have at least the last two years of high school taught from a somewhat common range of subjects with similar testing and pass marks for Australia wide comparison purposes. Also as many the Australian Universities have developed a reputation among foreign students for providing relevant and highly sought after qualifications which these foreign students or their families are generally prepared to pay dearly for, Australian Universities tend to provide all students including Australians with a rather high class of tuition and related educational facilities and services that can be in demand in many other countries.
The school itself (institution: teachers, facilities, funding, programs) is only one part of the equation. Who your kids are going to school with can count just as much. Even good schools can dish out bad years or bad influence for your kids if your unlucky. Sometimes there are bad batches of parents responsible for horrible politics. And there are definitely some schools you really don't want to send your kids to.
There is strong downward pressure on minimum school age now. Because school is free and parents get free childcare. It's cost to the wider community though, via taxes.
This information is not entirely correct. She’s only giving her perspective of living in Victoria. In NSW all licensed Childcare Centres have a curriculum & must have a qualified Teacher on Staff at all times. Preschool, as the name suggests, is for children preparing to enter the school system. Kindergarten is the first Year of Infants School (K-2), Primary is Years 3-6, High School is Years 7-12. Some Schools in NSW cover K-12, some only do Infants Schooling & others cover just Primary or both. I only have experience in NSW, so where you live makes a difference. If you come to Australia on particular Visa’s you are also eligible to receive free childcare on the days you attend English education classes.
MELB and Sydney are expensive.esp Sydney,although the weather is warmer in the winter.No,your son won’t be learning 3 languages or taking tests in kindergarten here.its very much about socialization.Art,making things,being read to and play.l mean expensive generally…rent, housing…
2:42 dunno what she’s talking about. We had two options kindergarten which used to be public, and daycare which was private, i’m guessing the terms are interchangeable now. I’ve never seen in home care, but for $35 an hour i’d be paying the nanny more than i am earning.
Catholic vs public schools: Catholic schools have a reputation for providing a better education. Because of this, many non-Catholic parents send their children to them. They will have to learn Catholic dogma, but they don't have to be or become Catholics. If you are Catholic, the Catholic system is required to take your children if you choose to go that way. I think about 1/4 schools here are Catholic depending where you live.
Childcare is expensive for sure. You do get a rebate depending on your income. Never heard off the average person hiring someone to come to your home. Family day care is the where you take them to a persons house who has other children there as well. The preschool program has not started yet. And it is for disadvantaged families. Kindergarten is for 4 year olds then school starts at 5. So your son would start school here not kindergarten. Montessori is more structured. School is compulsory from 5-16 here. Secondary school is year 8-12. Don’t know where this woman is getting her information from. We also have the summer holidays off. Don’t forget summer here is Dec- Feb. university is very expensive. My daughters uni course if over $40k. My children went to an independent private Anglican school, Wasn’t much religion just good principles. Totally worth it.
Geez.... this is a big can of worms! In NSW and the ACT, generally infant schools are from K to yr 2, primary schools are yrs 3-6, and secondary schools from yr 7 to yr 10 or 12. Some areas have separate senior campuses for yrs 11-12, and some don't. The school year starts at the end of January/early February, and runs for 4 x 10 week terms, finishing sometime in December, with a long break over the Australian summer, including Christmas. The 4 terms are separated by 2 week breaks, and the timing of these breaks are staggered from state to state, so that you don't have every family with school students fighting for space at the various holiday destinations for 2 weeks, and then they sit idle until the next holiday, especially in the snowfields. There are government schools, with minimal fees, or even free if you choose not to pay. These have to take any student in their "catchment area" and rowdy, disruptive students really have to work at it to be expelled from a government school. Then there are private schools. These are usually faith based, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish and Islamic mostly, but can also be a systematic style of teaching eg Montessori or Steiner. These also have catchment areas, but can accept students from outside this area. These schools have moderate fees, usually with reduced rates for siblings. They also have an "easier" time expelling misbehaving students. Lastly, there are the private, high fee (50k per year) type of schools. These are often boarding schools for remote country children, who face a long commute to and from school each day (2-3 hours by bus, sort of commute). But they are also for the children of rich people who want the best for their children. They often think the more it costs, the better it must be. Almost every year there is a story about students from one of these schools being expelled for something. Not to mention the biggest school in Australia, the School of the Air, for the students in the outback parts of Australia (google it). So basically take your pick, and take your chances. What suits one child may not suit their siblings. Some schools specialise in the arts, others in science, others in languages. Have fun comparing and contrasting.
The private Catholic schools fall into two classes, regional schools and private schools. The regional schools aren't as dear. The Catholic system here charges full fees for the first child, half fees for the second child, one third of fees for the third child and the fourth and subsequent children are educated for free. I went to a Catholic school, my children went to public school. My teachers belonged to a different union from government teachers and didn't strike like govt teachers. Our religion lessions were taught by professional teachers,and were about religions around the world and their impact on society. My kids scripture lessons in public school were given by religious nutjobs wanting to push their beliefs on children.
It's bizarre that religious groups have such a grip on public schools. I know that in NSW parents can opt out of having their children attend scripture lessons, but those children are not allowed to have actual lessons instead - at best they are allowed to read or do revision.
Come live in Canberra - bit pricey in terms of housing, but some great public schools (I assume the Public Service factor plays into this that people know what grants are available and how to leverage Government funding). Also got some reasonable private schools if that's your thing - but feels like there's not much need to choose the public schools unless there's specific things they offer (e.g. some of them are probably more sporty). Kindy/preschool is sort of fun activities for the kids. They'll have indoor and outdoor stuff but it's often not very structured (so some people might be painting, others playing with Lego or other toys). There might be some "quiet time" where a teacher reads a book and some of the kids might nap, but generally it's sort of an introduction to a school environment without too much of the structure school has. We've had mixed experience with different schools and homeworks - some schools seem to give it out from mid-primary, but we've also seen high schools with barely any. One of our big learning curves has been that yr11 and 12 are treated as separate from High School in the ACT (they call it College), and there isn't quite the same emphasis on exams (you can get accepted to Uni without sitting exams). THis is not something we (ex-pat South Aussies) are used to, where 11 & 12 would be part of High School, and exams were very important if you waned Uni..... (sorry lots of edits). Catholic Private Schools seem to be increasingly charging higher fees (Which is ironic, because originally they were about giving schooling to people who couldn't afford it). I don't particularly think Private schools give better education, but there is some elitism where mixing in the right circles through school might give an advantage in terms of connections - but I know heaps of people from Public Schools who are highly successful, and lots of people from PRivate schools who aren't (and a lot of other permutations). I think Private schools *can* sometimes give opportunities that you wouldn't get in public, but I think it's still very possible for smart kids to thrive in public schools.
Religion-based schooling is subsidised and should be relatively the same price regardless of religion. They also need to meet the states education curriculum, so no need to worry about your child being academically disadvantaged.
Family daycares don't involve someone coming to your home. It's a private daycare centre run out of someone's house. Usually they are limited to.about six kids because there is only.one carer. But yes some women are not making any profit sending their kids to daycare while they work because it so expensive.
Really do your homework regarding where you choose to live Matt and then research education as each state does things differently. Malaysia is fairly hectic, even frantic in some places so if you're going for a more laid back life look to areas with minimal commutes, places a comfortable 10 or 15 minute drive away rather than 40+ minutes each way to everything or you'll all be exhausted all the time. Having lived in Sydney and Melbourne for several years each I found Perth the best place to bring up kids, for the weather and lifestyle, it's just so much more pleasant and easy. Real estate is expensive everywhere currently, a bummer for everyone.
2.09 Child care is free in Aus. The government pays for it. So this cost you will get back unless you are a high income earner. This variance in cost is due to the age of your child, not the centre. For a younger child, you pay more as they have a higher carer to child ratio. I would not recommend australia as a country for a good education. We have a national curriculum that is extremely left leaning. Over the past 15 years, essential reading and maths skills have dropped significantly and over the past 5 years, there has been a massive increase in homeschooling for this reason.
Your getting a very limited view as to what is actually available. You would be advised to get real info from an Aussie childhood education expert. We are very fortunate to have a well funded public education system in Oz. My whole family have been publicly educated and I'm very happy with the outcome. I don't believe that religious schools should be promoted as they lack diversity and waste too much time on scripture studies. The person on this video maybe slightly biased as she comes from a catholic dominated country.
Each family situation is different, so sometimes it's not even worth a parent returning to work against the cost of childcare, where one whole weekly wage could potentially be spent on childcare, especially if more than one child. However, the government wanted more women to return to the workplace (as it was generally the Mother that would sacrifice her work/career as the stay at home parent) therefore huge subsidies were introduced to entice a parent returning to the workforce sooner. No such difference between high school yr 8 thru to yr 12, never heard of this yr 11 and 12 as Senior High School business, guess that's State dependent too.
In Australia, ease of education is mostly great (however, plenty of regional schools only go up to year 10, and the years 11 & 12 you need to qualify for university mean you have to send your kids a couple of hundred, to a couple of thousand, kilometres away -- which may involve boarding school and the costs associated with that), quality of education is debatable. Lots of other countries do it better: South Korea, Scandinavia.... Still, it is a great place to grow up.
Ex- childcare worker here. There is a huge amount of programming and activities plus free play for children including for individual children for centre accreditation. The standards are quite high
standards are very high, but they do need to check carefully. Check the food, resources and parents ned to spend some time there orienting their children, the more the better so that can see more of the day to day happenings and get to know the educators a bit more. Good centres will welcom families in to spend time at the centre, and be a part of their community.
You have to be careful watching people from outside of Australia explaining major things. They often only have a very basic understanding of what happens. Do your research for the state you wish to reside in and go to the government sites to get accurate info. There are many forms of help for the average Joe. There are a lot of middle-class families that the system is designed to help. I do enjoy your videos and how alike our countries are in what we say and like.
She was clueless.
Having some personal experience of the Australian education system, (both first hand and via our three children) including private and public schools, I found the video to be well researched and accurate while making it clear each State has variations and that you need to do your own research.
And, for what it’s worth, the presenter lives in Australia and learnt English ahead of completing a Masters Degree at an Australian University - I’m impressed.
Evolution being taught to a 7yr old by a foreign mig. didn't stir much confidence. especially in a chris.......Damn!
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half of what she says in her videos are rubbish
no idea where she gets her info from
I work at a Kindergarten in Japan, and it is intense like Malaysia. My grandson goes to kindergarten in Sydney and I think there they have a better balance of learning, play and social skills.
Retired Aussie teacher. There is a curriculum pre schools and schools have to follow from 3 years old. Her info isn’t very comprehensive or even correct. Cost is also going to depend on your residence status, and school is some places is required until 17. But that can include trade training. States operate their own education departments but there is a national curriculum. Most states follow it to varying degrees from loosely to closely.
Her info is specifically for foreigners coming to Australia, she makes that clear at the start. That's what her channel is for. Thats why she isn't talking about child care subsidies/rebates, because foreigners aren't getting it.
Matt, let me just say that friends of mine lived in Malaysia for a few years. When they returned home to Oz.. the level of knowledge the kids had was truly impressive. Regarding education in Australia, each state decides on the education policies individually, and there are differences. However, overall, either public or private schools, we are very fortunate. If you moved here, most schools have wonderful open playing grounds and a combination of small or large schools. It's a good environment.
Homeschooling is on the rise for a radon in Aussie schools. Ask parents why. It’s not all roses like you’re making out!
Grooming books for a start.
Public schools are great. It’s parenting that makes the difference, every single time. Public schools are tolerant, accepting, diverse and open minded.
Julie...Australia has a National curriculum and..is..not...controlled by the State!
@@kerryryan5116 whilst there is a national curriculum, it is up to the states to incorporate it, as each state is in charge of its own education system. As such how closely it is followed varies by state. Each state will issue its own curriculum guidance. So in actuality, it is up to the states.
The problem with most people who have gone through that intensive learning framework is that they're smart enough to remember what they're taught, but not smart enough to question it.
Just wanted to comment on NSW system. I have actually used both community based preschool and private preschool. Both were very good and my children attended until they turned 5. Started Kindergarten the February after turning 5 at local public school (they went to 3 different schools due to work changes) all were very similar and my children had no trouble going from one to another as the curriculum was similar. When my eldest turned 9 we homeschooled her so her educational needs could be met (a personalised programme set up and taught by me according to state curriculum standards and was monitored yearly). My son moved to catholic school (age 6). Our fees were on the lower scale as it was a outer suburb of Sydney. All up including uniforms was $3000 a year which we paid in installments. My son completed primary school through that system (age 11). When high school came around he moved to local catholic high school. These fees jumped and the uniform was more expensive our annual fees and uniform came to just under $6000 including camps and other expenses. We also experienced financial difficulties and had our fees waived for 3 terms with no need to pay back, we are also not catholic. Catholic schools do have to admit a certain number of non-catholics but you must sign that you will respect their faith. Year 9 (age 14) my son was registered for Distance Education, this was provided through online services and was brilliant as he could work at his own pace. He continued this until end of Year 10. This did have a cost as you needed to be online but was only about $500 same as local public school no school uniform needed. Year 11 & 12 was done at a regional public highschool and it was great. School fees were not compulsory but cost for some subjects where such as food tech and tafe accredited courses. The uniform was also very easy polo shirts with school badge and black shorts and enclosed shoes. I spent approx $500 on school uniforms over the 2 years. I have found the various school systems in Australia to be very good. Love to see you move to Australia.
My kids loved pre-school, singing, being read books , art, playing etc. to socialise them from 3 I never used Day-care. They attended public schools and did well.
Same here. The best decision my ex and I ever made was to both go half-time (I know not many people can swing this) on the Wednesday afternoon when we were both working my dad came over and looked after his granddaughter. He loved it and it was not too much for him, just one afternoon per week.
@@EL_Duderino68Great that you made this work. It’s the ideal model for families.
Did the same, refused FIFO, found a good paying mining job locally that allowed me to be home every night and only worked 7 Days/fortnight, tied in with the ex-missus aligning a permanent casual job to cover the days when I was at work........ managed a good income, had at least one parent at home 24/7, never put in daycare once, every weekend off as a full family and never missed a single day of their lives ❤
It's heartbreaking the division of parent/kids time these days with life so difficult that kids barely see their parents because they have to both spend so much time away working just to put food on the table 😢
@@docbob3030 Hey mate, I understand your pain re breaking up and kids. It's the worst.
On the positive you and your ex gave them an excellent start by both being there for them. The early years are the most important and it sounds like you made the most of them.
She didn't talk about the "School of the Air" for kids in country and remote areas of Australia.
Thanks for mentioning that. It has been going for decades now, providing a unique and invaluable service. Way back in the 50's and 60's, there was an associated service to give children from far western NSW a week at Manly, a famous Sydney beachside suburb. I don't know if that's still going, nor any costs involved.
Because she didn't grow up here and has had no reason to need to learn about it.
The school holidays are organised so that the main holiday is in summer although sometimes the weather doesn't playball.
the government kindergarten I used to live near did lots of activities - they grew and harvested their vegetables, had lots of equipment inside and outside to play on. they did singing, had stories read to the children. they did lots of art things. Occasions they had well supervised excursions where they visited places. They had some fish in a big tank that they looked after. They sometimes made things and then ate what they created. All the children seemed very happy. NO uniforms at that kindergarten that was near me.
Whereas the more expensive private schools do run programs for children under 5 - they do have uniforms - and eventually go on to grade one at the same private school.
We worked out that we could afford a private education. I appreciated the very small classes in the private school they attended - as opposed to a much bigger number of students in each classroom in the government schools. I also appreciated how diligent the private schools were in giving extra support to any student who was falling behind in primary schools - and that continued for any student who needed it - and no extra fees were added to cover the cost of that extra one on one tutoring, where needed. Also the students were consistently respectful, courteous and well mannered - any time a parent was at the private school the students were so polite to any parents - including addressing the mother or father as "good morning mrs ******". Or "good afternoon Mr ******"
In a much bigger government school it is likely than students would not know which adult was a parent of .."who?"
Schools are run by states, so each is run differently hence the different names for preschool programs
International students can enrol in public schools, but their parents must pay for it. It costs between $14,000 to $18,000 per year depending if they are in primary or high school. The cost may vary from state to state.
Childcare is heavily subsidised by the Government. Its quite affordable. Kindergarten is about to be free and compulsory in some states from 3 years old. Public school is effectively free. Private school comes at a cost, most are associated with Catholic/Christian education and the fees vary. Private catholic primary can be as little as little as $2k a year, and additional children come with significant discounts. Secondary probably starts at about $6K a year.
Also no senior secondary, Its all year 7 to 12. Some schools might have different campuses but there is no breakdown.
Term 1 Feb 1 to Easter/April, then 2 week break. Then end April to end June for term 2, 2 week break. Term 3 July to end September, 2 week break. October to Mid December, 5 week break (few days/weeks variance depending on school). Catholic schools are still private.
Bias opinion, but I rekn you'll find private (religious or other) out perform public schools. I'm certain the data will suggest that both attendance levels, behavioral standards and educational outcomes etc. rate higher. There is also heaps of them.
If you are looking at education in Australia, and aren't a permanent resident, my understanding is that if you go with the public education system, then you will have to pay the overseas prices which depending on the private school that you choose would be pretty similar in costs (the same way that overseas students pay way more than locals at Uni). Otherwise it depends on the school you are looking at for what subjects they offer, extra curriculars etc.
Its not just Catholic schools that are subsidised. Protestant schools also..
All schooling is subsidised. Govt schools get the most funding for the worst outcomes. Low-fee non-govt schools are funded at a lower level but get better results.
Societies entire structure is geared into getting both parents to work because that way the repayment capacity of loans is higher meaning more can be charged for housing. Childcare is the most essential part of this system as it allows parents to outsource their parenting freeing up time to repay home mortgages. Australia in a nutshell.
And to make sure more taxes are paid too. Both parents working.....more money for the snouts in the trough at Parliament.
Australia is a land of extremes and contradictions , our states cannot even agree with a common railway gauge
Each State likes to be different. Holidays - School has 4 terms. Holidays 2 weeks at Easter, 2 weeks in June/July/ and 2weeks Sept. Xmas Holidays are from mid December to end January /beginning February. so 6 weeks. Private school /boarding schools (we have boarding schools because of the remote kids usually do Senior school away from home) has fees.
Dont have to pay the Anuall Fee Btw. You can just ignore it, no repercussions. its more a requested donation.
The government provides Aussies with a parenting payment so a $400 fee for public school sounds doable. Why be so stingy.
@@CeasefireNow2024 I had to read the comment twice. She never said SHE didn’t pay it, not at any point. Are you saying in general people who don’t or can’t pay it are stingy? Sounds like you’re coming from a place of privilege and obviously not a teacher. Teachers would never say derogatory things about families who can’t pay their fees, Schools understand the individual circumstances of families who have children in their care and this would never cross their minds. In fact, quite the opposite is true, if families can’t pay for uniforms or excursions or even lunches, they are the first to dip their hands in their pockets to help. I was a teacher and I have bought pens, lunches, payed for excursions many times, any teacher will do that when they know families are feeling the pinch. Never once do we consider them stingy or poor parents, we consider they need a bit of help at this point in time for whatever reason, whether it’s employment related, family loss, illness or any of the myriad of reasons people sometimes can’t pay their bills. A bit of sensitivity please!
@@CeasefireNow2024The purpose of those back to school payments when brought in was to provide for items like uniforms, school shoes, devices and stationery needed for school to alleviate financial pressures on families. They were and are still not intended to go directly to the school. The principle of free compulsory and secular education goes back to the 19th Century in Australia. No family has an obligation to pay for school, especially if they are struggling to put food on the table and keep a roof over their heads.
Yea. It's a recommended fee and if the school knows you can afford it you will be leaned on to pay it.
@@MsJubjubbird ‘leaned on’? Not where I come from. And, not in the schools where I have taught. I am sorry you felt compelled or intimidated to pay it. The money does go to important projects that benefits the kids as well as directly impacting their learning and maybe your school was too enthusiastic about that. I don’t know. I worked in regions that weren’t affluent and families did experience struggles so that never happened to them. Even so, parents did try to pay when they could as they knew it was going to benefit their kids. If you can afford to pay a very low fee that is subsidised, you should, no question. When I put my kids through school, there wasn’t even a question in my mind about paying it or not paying it. When excursion notes came home with a breakdown of the costs, I payed it, no questions were raised in my mind. If school uniform prices went up, I gave them what they needed and buying the uniforms through the school was always cheaper than buying them at stores like Lowes. If I were to not pay when I was easily capable of doing so, then the word for not paying it, wouldn’t be stingy.
I went to family daycare, so our Nanny ran a daycare out of her home, paying per hour was way cheaper as she cared for me and my 3 siblings together, did school pick-up and drop off as it continued well into Primary/highschool. Apparently it was the cheapest option for multiple siblings
There's no difference if you choose public or private schools in education quality...the money goes into the extra activities the school offers (that you technically already paid for even if you don't use it). The education that matters is either uni or trade school.
In Australia a tradesman gets paid well....very well once fully qualified and usually isnt stuck with enormous education debt.
But it all depends on what career path they choose.
It depends on what zone you live in. Local areas with good high schools can add about 10% onto housing prices just because people want their kids to be eligible to go to that public high school. Private schools to have tools to attract better teachers, the class sizes are smaller, the discipline is more rigid, there is more monitoring of individual students, there are often more cocurriculars available at no extra cost and they might have access to better facilities- like maybe pools for swimming lessons, photography studios, better science equipment, musical instruments etc.. The only criticism I have of some private schools is they don't always expose kids to socioeconomic diversity and solving problems on their own.
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4:13 when i was a nipper in NSW we had kindergarten which i went to before i started school, daycare basically.
Then infants school which encompassed preschool (now known as prep) first year and second year. You then went to primary school for years 3 to 6 then high school until year 12.
They have combined infants school and primary together. Prep is an intro year to ease kids into the school process. They learn basic letters, numbers, shapes, colours, etc.
As long as you’re living in a pretty average area, public schools are fine, I put my daughter in a private school for 2 years, but that was because they had a creative arts program that was better than any public primary school in Australia, I moved us to the catchment area for a (Public) senior college in Canberra for the same reason.
Traditionally schools were once infants (K-Y2) & Primary (Y3-Y6) in separate parts of the school. But progress meant schools were combined in some very old school you will see separate entrances for boys & girls in the brickwork. I remember Crown St Public School was built this way & it is a very old school from 1850 or so. As our population has grown schools have added more school rooms. My old school (Est 1899) has reused all the old classrooms, making the old principal's office into a Preschool & the oldest classrooms moved back into use.
Main school holidays are in Summer, usually mid dec - end jan/early feb. The year is then split up in to 4 terms of approximately 10 weeks, with two weeks of holidays between each.
It's school holidays now and there is a lot of alternative schooling options, which is good. Before and afternoon care, while they are in primary school. Childcare centres are expensive, so depends on your income. Kindy is optional, but good for getting children ready for Prep, which includes set routine but not as involved as your son is doing there. The High Schools goes to year 12. I don't know of any public schools, that finish before year 12. Not all schools are zoned either. It would be great for you and your family to live here.
The first thing you should do is decide what state or territory you want to live. Then you can do all the research in that state etc. The best way to look at Australia is that each state runs its own affairs, that's why there are different rules and regulations etc. As for schools, there are many good govt schools and i don't think it necessary to pay the exorbitant private school fees.
Best to choose a regional city, WA has great options.
Tax policy changes depending on govt, but not as much as US & UK, you can chose more intence school if you want, no phones allowed in most schools.
In SA at least Family Day Care is registered and monitored and supported VERY well by the Education Department.
the biggest problem with Australia's Public Education system is that it was totally ripped off by the Liberal Party with john Howard 20+ years ago.
He ramped up private Schools' funding and cut public ... very MAGA.
It is heart-breaking seeing how they effectively dismantled it.
(an ex site-principal of Early Childhood Education here)
Kindergartens also have registered teachers on staff, but it is NOT like school as you describe it.
If public schools are feeling the pinch, it's because of Labor's mismanagement, and nothing to do with the miniscule funding private and catholic schools get from the government.
@@wildwomanofthewoods I am no fan of Labor, but this?
"the miniscule funding private and catholic schools get from the government."
It's time to look at the facts.
@@wildwomanofthewoods. The Australian Government (the Commonwealth) provides recurrent funding for every student enrolled at a school. In 2024, recurrent funding for schools is estimated to total $29.2 billion. This includes $11.3 billion (38.7%) to government schools (with 63.9% of all students), $9.9 billion (33.9%) to Catholic schools (with 18.5% of all students) and $8.1 billion (27.7%) to independent schools (with 17.6% of all students).
Australian Children at primary and secondary school get about 6 weeks of holidays between December and January/February and 3 periods of holidays of about 2 weeks which divide up the school year into terms
Childcare has just been made free in my State. When I lived in Victoria the Government subsidised most of it. Try listening to an Australian expert.
My children to State schools and Private Catholic schools. Not just Catholic schools. My youngest was adopted from South Korea and she went through so many racist attacks daily from girls and female teachers. Until they made her sick. I finally got her into a public school out of our area for years 11 and 12. This school always finished in the top three schools in Victoria with the highest grades and the most students accepted into the best Universities. The best part was zero tolerance for racism. She was told before she started if one student or teacher made one racist remark they would be told to leave immediately. It was an amazing free, public high school that some very wealthy parents tried everything to get their children into. They even bought second homes in the school area, rented them out but put that address down as theirs. One day while my daughter was there they did a big house check and over 80 students were thrown out. I know it took me four years to get my daughter a place there but she had two really happy years before University. My Granddaughter went to that school for 6 years. She graduated this year as a research Scientist with her Bachelor’s degree, Honours degree, Masters degree and Doctorate. I had never before seen a high school that offered so much to every students different needs for free.
The woman who does this video gets a lot wrong and not just in this video.
There are public schools (free) that are selective high schools. From top 3% or higher, on entrance exam or top of primary school. These schools offer similar education to top private schools but are free. There were about 7 in Sydney 30 years ago.
My Grandson and Granddaughter, both went to an Independent Secondary School. They did have too pay for excursions and uniforms etc, but there weren’t any school fees and the schools population was a lot smaller than public schools and there was a lot more diversity because they also had Music and Acting studies plus all the Sporting Activities. I should say we live in Perth and I think every state has its own curriculum and we are a much smaller population than The East Coast but they both did great and my youngest Granddaughter has got her Uni degree in Secondary School History Teaching and my Grandson is married and works in the Portable Housing Industry. My eldest Granddaughter went to a really good Secondary Public School, and she works in the Prison’s Department. She’s worked her way up from a Prison Officer to now working in the Office as 2nd in charge. I am hugely proud of them all and I think the schools they went to have helped them to become great people. Also with Daycare and Kindergarten especially here in Perth are fairly are a lot cheaper than what the lady said, as the Government has fairly chunky subsidies for little kids.🇦🇺😘
My 2 siblings and I went to western suburbs private schools. Someone asked my dad if he would recommend it, he said, " I wish I had just bought them a house each".
The reason for the differences between the states is that education is a state not federal responsibility. There are standards that must be satisfied that are set by the feds.
Although there is a national curriculum, under the Australian Constitution each state government has the responsibility for providing education to children within that state. It is why you need to research education in the state in which you are considering living. It's also why there is different terminology and different starting ages of compulsory education from state to state. Here in Western Australia education becomes compulsory from the year in which your child turns 5 years and 6 months and is compulsory until the end of the year in which they turn 17 years and 6 months or turn 18 (whichever comes first). The first compulsory grade is Pre-primary (and is full time schooling) but there is also a Kindergarten program available in state schools which is not compulsory and is part time for younger children. Kindergarten and pre-primary are play based, though structured to introduce phonics, numeracy, etc., with explicit instruction included, as it leads into grade 1. School holidays start and finish dates vary slightly from state to state but work on the same basic premise of 4 terms, with the first 3 terms having a 2 week holiday break after each term but the longer school holidays for Christmas/summer, of around 6 weeks, start at the completion of term 4. School reports are provided to parents at the end of term 2 and term 4 (end of semester 1 and semester 2). Be aware that like other countries, Australia's travel costs skyrocket during school holidays periods and you need to be aware of the differences between the states as it may mean week 2 of your holiday in another state may suddenly cost twice the price of week 1 because the school holidays in the state you are visiting start that second week you are there.
Accredited child care centres, for young children under the compulsory school age, are also expected to provide structured play based curriculum, required to have a qualified teacher in charge of that. Using only accredited child care providers allows parents to access government subsidies (if parental income meets eligibility criteria).
There is a myriad of private/independent schools also available, having to meet the state government's curriculum and other requirements (such as teacher registration, etc.) - not all religious based but some based upon educational philosophies such as Steiner, Montessori, etc.
"under the Australian Constitution each state government has the responsibility for providing education to children within that state" - perhaps you could set out the constitutional provision by direct quotation. I'm not aware of any.
Firstly, glad to hear you are thinking of moving to Australia. Our Education system is generally very good. To throw a spanner in the works (sorry), my 17 year old daughter attends an Independent School that is a State Government School, without the high costs of private Independent Schools. It is a School for high achievers in Math, Physics, Science, and Technology. Something for everyone in Australia.
She also missed the Montessori Schools. These have a very good reputation and allow children to go at their own pace and those that may not fit in, for what ever reason. Have met the principal and children of these schools - and they are VERY intelligent and well adjusted.
TLDR: The reason why each state often has different names for things or their school system works a bit differently is because each state in Australia is sort of like its own country with its own values and laws. But all of those states got together under a single federal government which sets specific rules that all the states must follow. But outside those specific rules, the states have their own leader, make their own laws and do their own thing.
The different states in Australia are actually all completely different colonies that were founded by different people from different places, with different ideals, goals and values.
In 1901 all of the states voted to join together or to "federate" under The Commonwealth of Australia. But each state remained autonomous. They make their own laws, call things by their own name and have their own way of doing things. But they are united under a federal constitution. Just like America is.
So like America, which has 50 states and a number of territories, Australia also has States and Territories. And each state is kind of like its own country with its own leader and its own laws, traditions and values. But all of those countries united to become one single nation and agreed on a set of shared rules that they would all follow. Everything outside those specific shared rules is up to each country (state) individually.
The United States of America is a Republic, but it is actually also a federation, just like Australia. America basically works the same way as Australia does, except the structure of the federal government is different. Americans elect their leader (President) directly, which is where the republic part comes in. That President then appoints the people they want to join their Administration (Cabinet) and run all the different departments of the federal government. America has a Federal Congress and a Federal Senate. Australia has A House of Representatives (Congress) and we also have a Senate.
But in Australia we elect a bunch of different people from different parties (mainly two, but really one) to form a Parliament. And the party that has the most members and holds a majority in the House of Reps becomes the party that forms government. But its the party that chooses its leader and that person becomes the Prime Minister. Then that Prime Minister chooses his cabinet (Administration). And those members become Ministers who run each department of the federal government.
This is called the Westminster system. Which is actually what the United States Republic system is based off.
We sent our sons to an excellent public school for their Primary years here in Melbourne. We opted for Private school for years 7 to 12, which was perfect for them although expensive.
Smart move - I look at my old high school & wonder how we survived. My cousin went to a Christian School which was a waste of money as he bummed out of TAFE. He could have gone with me & a younger neighbour but his family spent all this money. NOW - I would never send anyone to my old high school but would select the Private School.
Children start public school at the age of 5 in NSW if you turn 5 before July and start the following year if you turn 5 in the later part of the year. School is mostly free but some schools ask for a small donation to help cover costs. Plus there is the purchase of books and stationary. I think your son would be ahead of class. However they do start to learn to read, simple math and a range of social studies at this age. They get homework but it’s not very hard.
I’m a pom I have lived here in Western Australia for 22 years, the public school system here is very good, they also have a gates system here ( Gifted and talented students) which is good if you have a bright kid, also what she did not say is that it can cost around 600 to a thousand dollars to send you kid to school aside from uniforms you have to pay for a school list every year which covers everything from text books pens and pencils calculators and even boxes off tissues to blow your kids nose lol
Australia would be similar to the Brittan. We have both public and private schools. Private schools and child care can be very expensive. Public schools normaly let you choose what you want to pay. With public schools, the quality can differ from states and territories, so do your research. If you have any kids with learning difficulties or other issues then I would think public schools might be better. If you have smart, organised kids, then private schools might be better, but again, they are normaly quite expensive. I am from Canberra and public schools are very good but this may not be the case in some low income areas of Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane. Canberra is a good place to work and raise a family. People bag Canberra, but only because it is the Capital and they think it is boring. The main issue with Canberra, is that it is the 2nd most expensive city to live in Australia after Sydney. On average, it is more expensive than Melbourne and Brisbane. I was born in Melbourne and it is the most popular of the big cities. Sydney can get a bad rap overall, but I have family in Sydney, and it is fine overall. Adelaide is quite a cheap city from what I know. We used to make fun of Adelaide for being different but people from Adelaide love it. None of the major cities in Australia are bad to live in but the bigger the city the more traffic and tolls you may have to pay. I know in Sydney that parking in the city is very expensive. Like $20 a day but this was pre covid so it could be up to $30 a day. Trust me that is expensive. Sydney has a public metro system with trains and a light rail. Melbourne has a metro train system and is world famous for their trams too. Melbourne is one of the sporting capitals of the world. AFL, cricket, rugby, and football/soccer. It is also home of the world famous MGC (Cricket/AFL), Australian Open Grand Slam tennis, and the Australian Formula One Grand Prix. Next summer (2025/2026) Australia will be hosting the Ashes Cricket against England. We are currently playing India in a 5 match series. As I said I was born in Melbourne and Sport is like a religion in Melbourne. Not kidding you. So if you are not big on Sport then just be warned that you can't avoid it when living in Melbourne. People are obsessed about it. Mostly AFL (March to September) and Cricket (November to January)
I’ll simplify as much as possible for the state of New South Wales.
Day care - ages 6months to 5/6yrs
Primary- ages 5/6 kindergarten to yr6
High school - yr7 - yr 12. Compulsory
A child can leave after yr 10 providingthey have full time employment/ Apprenticeship.
In regards to Kindergarten in Victoria, my 4 year old daughter started Kinder last year at age 2 years 8 months, because she started so early we qualified for a 3rd year of Kinder next year so by the time she hits Primary school in 2026 she will have completed 3 years of Kinder. As for cost, absolutely nothing, our program is completely funded by the state government and it’s currently for 3 days per week 5 hours per day. The sort of activity they get up to are basic reading and writing, arts and crafts, kids safety and playtime amongst other things, the social aspect is invaluable because my daughter is an only child and needs that interaction. We further teach her spelling, reading and writing, math etc. at home, I would say given her current progress she will be able to write basic sentences, perform basic addition and subtraction and read simple children’s books before she hits the school system.
Basically, you leave the UK in first form in September and arrive in third form starting late January, skipping a year is because our education system is very poor, no 2nd language, school nurse, PE, hot lunches and "free" education or home work. It's bargain basement here...😢😮
Needs a bit more detail explained here... Childcare in Australia comes with government rebates dependent on your family income per year. So the day rate mat be $180 but you are out of pocket $60 dollars per day. On top of that, that is to care for your child between the hours of 6-7am until 6pm on a daily basis which includes meals and any consumables like nappies etc for the younger children. And these are rough amounts for a suburban private center based on my own personal experiences.
If you are sending a child older than three to a standard public kindergarden that do not cover the above like meals, where the hours are shorter then you are not paying anything near to the above.
Oh and the annual charge for public schools is actually voluntary contributions that most people don't realise and still pay. This is why people who do pay them can declare it is a deduction on their tax.
Childcare is increasingly being subsidized by the government but I'm unsure whether this would be available to immigrants. The Victoria government is also making kindergarten free or low-cost.
Childcare is increasingly being funded by *taxpayers* the Victorian government is also making kindergarten socially funded by taxpayers. None of it is free.
My daughter goes to a independent high school in western Australia which also has agriculture classes and its compulsory to do up to year 12.
As Rosannebyrne7233 states, the leaving age is 17 unless the student has an apprenticeship or is enrolled in a TAFE (vocational course.) Each state has its own state governing dept, which regulates all schools, whether government, Religious (Catholic, Muslim, Jewish, Anglican, etc), Private or Selective (which your child needs to sit a selective entrance exam. Government and Selective have minimal costs, while Religious schools (e.g. Catholic)have a fee from $1000 for Kindergarten to $ 7000 in Year 12. Private schools have incredibly high fees, and you can expect to pay anything from $10000 to $40,000 per year depending on which year your child is in and what additional co-curriculars they do. Each Private school and religious school set their own fees. As your other viewers suggest, do your research. Each state and capital city's education system has various facilities to suit your and your child's needs.
In Queensland, it's compulsory to attend school from Prep to Yr 10 (4/5yo to 15/16yo)
Primary School - Prep to Yr 6
High School - Yr 7 to Yr 12
Family day care is in the carers home. You use to be able to find child care places that incorporated kindergarten. Don’t know if they still do. Her information isn’t necessarily correct. Steiner schools are another option. I think other people have covered a lot of other points I’d be only raising again. Private schools only if you have the $’s to spend.
School systems vary from state to state. Individual schools can vary within a state. You need to do your research depending on where you intend to live.
Private schools are full of kids whose parents invest in education, during the school years your children will have a broader education and have friends whose parents are reasonably wealthy, but it doesn’t guarantee better jobs etc. my kids had both and there is good and bad in each. In public schools kids experience the real world where hard work has rewards but they can slip through the cracks if your not on top of it. Regardless, my experience is if you get involved then your kids will be ok.
When we moved from UK to Oz, the school tested me before I was put into a class. Though I was 9yo (Yr 5) the tests showed I was Y10 (age 15) in English/comprehension. I had some issues in maths though as the curriculum differed a bit.
Doesn't surprise me
I went to schooling the blue mountains in the 80s. Different syllabus back then. It was alot of Australian poetry and novels, classical 3 R's, history and aboriginal history. Plus we had outside survival studies. Camping, cooking, and survival training with aboriginal elders out in the wilderness learning to hunt and fish and identify edible native plants and How to cook; as well as drills on bushfires, cyclones, floods, draughts, first aid on dangerous animals etc etc. It was an intense but brilliant childhood. All this in primary school so we were hardened and ready for highschool.
My primary school was free but before or after school care was $2/day. Highschool was a boarding school and i got a full scholarship. That school was $30k per year plus uniform. To get a scholarship you have to take multiple exams and auditions.
Remember, Australia is in the southern hemisphere, so the seasons are the opposite of the northern hemisphere, and as such, setting a year/schooling system/ holidays to the northern hemispheres' system doesn't work for our seasons, like it does for the northern hemispheres' summer. So we operate on a calendar year, as the end of the year falls with our summer - hence our summer, new year, main holidays, events and Christmas and end of schooling - all occur during summer - to take advantage of summer. Otherwise we would have our main holidays in the middle of winter. And we would have to have a different Christmas date just for our southern hemisphere. Also our Christmas school break is roughly x6 weeks - with x3 fortnightly breaks, spread across the remainder of the year, making x4 school terms. Summer, Autumn, Winter and Spring. + / - days for difference between states/territories and public/private schools.
You can in NSW leave school after year 10 but you have to be going to TAFE if you do or have an apprenticeship. Other than this high school students go from year 7 to year 12. Primary is from kindergarten to year 6. Free education is called public school and private schools are very expensive. We couldn’t afford the fees. However the school they go to often depends on the area you live so you would need to be living in the area if you go public. I personally think the schools are quite good. I’m a grandparent now so we are into round two wth the grandchildren.
You also have to consider public schools are zone based. Meaning you have to live near the school to be able to go there. Those suburbs are highly sought after and not cheap to live in.
The first options they covered (childcare/home help) are for single working parents or families where both parents want to work. Hence the cost, as it's a private service.
Once the kids reach kindy age, that's government provided.
I was a teacher in primary schools for 46 years and find that woman's thoughts are quite wrong in some respects. Here in Western Australia we have kindy and preprimary often on the same campus as the primary school. Kindy is for 3 yr olds and preschool is for 2 yrs. Primary is from the yr children turn 6 until yr 6 at age 11. High school is from yr7 - 12. Although there is an overarching curriculum there are some areas which may offer a more intense subject learning such as specialist in sport, music, art, performing art, sciences etc. Costs vary in amount depending on public or private school attendance. Our school terms are usually divided pretty evenly into 4 terms. Term 1 is end of January to April then 2 weeks off. Term 2 end of April till June then 2 weeks off. Term 3 is july till Sept/October then 2 weeks off. Term 4 is October to mid December and about 6-7 weeks off over summer till next end jan/feb
As a retired primary school teacher who has had children and has grandchildren in the state and private schools, primary and secondary, I worry about the pressure your child is being put under at such a young age. There is no need for it. Schools in Australia have a more holistic attitude to education and in the younger years much learning is done through enjoyable activities. At one particular secondary school that I know of, where many children from Asian families attended, the principal blew up at the parents because of the pressure they were applying to their children, eg. the parents refused to allow their children to participate in any activity that was not purely academically focused. Our family went to an academically select entry secondary school music concert where ethnically Asian children made up 95% of the over 100 participants ! We are now having second thoughts for our gifted child and grandchild and will do more research on the school population before letting him attend there. (He has Asian-Australian friends.)
I sent my children to a faith based private school. My school fees were only half of the amount she said an it included all curriculum and activities such as sports, excursions and camps.
In South Australia, I went to kindergarten then infant school(grades 1 & 2); primary school was grades 3 to 7, and high school was grades 8 to 12. That was the 50's and 60's. Then they had Early Learning Centres(replaced kindergarten), the Junior Primary(generally grades 1 to 3); then Primary(grades 4 to 6), which is followed by Junior High(grades 7 to 9) then Senior High(grades 10 to 12). Starting around 2020, public schools began to copy private schools; now Primary(1 to 6) and High(7 to 1) schools are now colleges.
We use to have Religious Instruction in Primary School, I believe it was a 30 to 40 minute class on a Wednesday afternoon.
There is a private school in KL with a kiwi Principal….who also taught in the UK. Best of all 3. Check it out.
While trying to judge if this is good value or not you need to bear in mind the minimum wage in Australia is $24.10 per hour or $915.90 per 38 hour week before tax.
Sayfol international school in Malaysia has an ex pat Principal who trained and taught in New Zealand, taught in the uk and has been in Malaysia quite a while. Check it out.
I have a Family Day Care, which provides child care in my home. I also care for children before and after school and provide holiday care, so I have children from babies up till 12. This woman is pretty much on the mark, except she's wrong about hours, fees, names, what the children do, and what sort of care is available 😆😆 . In your home care is pretty rare. Some people have nannies, but that's mostly people living in remote circumstances. Regarding the school year, like other countries our school year starts and finishes with summer, which here is December/Jan/Feb.
Hi & thank you for your videos.
Australia is a very big country & some things are run by the Federal Government & others organised by the various States or Territories. Australia has a 3 tiered system of Government- Federal, State & Local.
In general, children start school at age 5 years, depending on which half of the year they were born. If a child is attending some form of child care or Kindergarten, Pre School then those people help prepare children for school in the time just before they start school. It is not intense learning prior to starting school.
Free Kindergarten is often not all day, every day of the week either & so because if all the pickup & drop offs for the hours they attend if parents are working the more appropriate option would be some form of child care where they attend for longer times. Childcare can be expensive. It is usually privately run so they charge what they charge based on them being profitable. In some places there might be local council run Pre School centres too.
Au Pairs can be a viable option. Often the family will make their own arrangements to have a young person come out to Australia often from Europe & they are paid by the hour to look after children & occasional household chores. The host family usually provides a room for them to lodge with that family. I have known families where this has worked well & suits their needs better than alternatives. BTW with the Au Paire arrangements the children can be taken on outings to places where other children play etc as agreed by the parents.
Schools are both Private or State run. It is definitely a requirement though for the children attending a State run school to live in the “catchment area” so if there’s a preferred school families often move nearby so their child might be able to attend that State School.
I hope my general comments here are of some help to you.
First thing that'll impact your kids is they won't be able to continue learning the different languages in school, they'll have to have separate private tuition. Your best bet, cost wise and free of religion is the public schools unless you really are able to afford a private school.
not quite correct here in the west. Some schools offer a language in the primary schools
Languages are taught in may schools. Ot depends on the resources available to each school and also the location. Religious education may be offered as an elective and in English you will study Christian texts.
Xmas is in the middle of summer!
Teacher from NSW here. There are so many inaccuracies in the video you are reacting to that it’s hard to target any single thing to advise you on. Our states are each separately responsible for specific areas such as education and health as part of Federation. That’s an important reason for different naming systems.
In the past - and I believe it’s still the case- those who are not permanent residents need to pay for their children’s schooling and so many opt for private as it is not much more expensive. That is an important factor to consider.
Systemic Catholic schools get less funding than state schools from the state, more from the federal govt but less funding overall because parents subsidise with the fees. There’s a whole history around that funding with the Goulburn School Strike if you want to go down that rabbit hole.
Private schools get funding from the state and federal govt and that’s a big debate because some elite private schools get this funding in addition to enormous endowments and fees and amass more land and facilities.
That Johnson Life might be a good channel to check out. He’s migrated to QLD as a teacher with kids.
My kids finished public school a few years ago in a regional area. I feel they were taught a lot less than when I was at school, especially regarding English, science, geography and history. Their primary school only had around 200 kids and they always had combined classes of different years which I wasn't a fan of.
If you want education but looking for a more affordable option, check out "selective" schools. Public but require a certain level of academic performance to attend
In Qld, Kindergarten and pre-school is just play and socialising, Prep is official school with proper structure and is counted as part of the Primary school years which now go to year 6. Primary is Prep (0) then 1 through to Year 6. Year 7 is now part of the High School curriculum which runs from year 7-12. Years 7-10 are Junior High, and 11-12 are senior High. It is part of the same school, but kids can leave in year 10 and go into the work force or a tech college, or if they want to continue through to Senior, are prepared for entry into Uni. Catholic schools are very open minded these days and though religion is taught, it is not strictly enforced. Children of all religions and from secular families are now attending Catholic school. Catholic school is a great way to get a more structured environment similar to private school, but are more affordable. Public can be hit and miss depending on the catchment you live in. You can't choose which public school you go to, they have to attend within a certain amount of kilometers of where they live, so that is something to consider if you want to go public. P.S. come to Qld, we rock.
My kids both went to a public primary school. However, now that my daughter is in high school, I have sent her to a Catholic school. My son will follow when he reaches high school. We are not Catholic but are religious. The catholic school has much better discipline in the school. I have heard there are a lot of wrong doings going on in the public high school where my daughter's friends go. Whereas in my daughter's school, if kids get caught doing these things, it is immediate expulsion. The public high school was never going to be an option for us. We are in New South Wales so when my kids were little, they went to a long day care. Kindergarten was the first year of primary school.
Come to Australia, we need more people to support the public schools,
In Australia the individual States and territories are primarily responsible for their own education system, and it has been that way from way before Federation so it is reasonable that significant differences in subjects taught and terminology will exist between each State's system. The Federal government administration does have some oversight over the State's concerning education but this is probably more to do with setting and maintaining minimum standards that the schools in general should reach rather than setting out in detail any curriculum. The Federal government's education department is mainly responsible for universities, and thus as many students do eventually feed into these universities, often in a different state to their former education there is an increased pressure on many of the more elite schools and even public schools to have at least the last two years of high school taught from a somewhat common range of subjects with similar testing and pass marks for Australia wide comparison purposes. Also as many the Australian Universities have developed a reputation among foreign students for providing relevant and highly sought after qualifications which these foreign students or their families are generally prepared to pay dearly for, Australian Universities tend to provide all students including Australians with a rather high class of tuition and related educational facilities and services that can be in demand in many other countries.
8:30 school year Jan to Dec. It's because we are in the southern hemisphere!
Child care and kindy costs would be driven by staff hiring cost (high and rising) property costs and insurance.
Make sure your kid has lots of social networking and supports. Kids at school are sometimes horrible for no real reason.
The school itself (institution: teachers, facilities, funding, programs) is only one part of the equation. Who your kids are going to school with can count just as much. Even good schools can dish out bad years or bad influence for your kids if your unlucky. Sometimes there are bad batches of parents responsible for horrible politics. And there are definitely some schools you really don't want to send your kids to.
There is strong downward pressure on minimum school age now. Because school is free and parents get free childcare. It's cost to the wider community though, via taxes.
This information is not entirely correct. She’s only giving her perspective of living in Victoria. In NSW all licensed Childcare Centres have a curriculum & must have a qualified Teacher on Staff at all times. Preschool, as the name suggests, is for children preparing to enter the school system. Kindergarten is the first Year of Infants School (K-2), Primary is Years 3-6, High School is Years 7-12. Some Schools in NSW cover K-12, some only do Infants Schooling & others cover just Primary or both. I only have experience in NSW, so where you live makes a difference. If you come to Australia on particular Visa’s you are also eligible to receive free childcare on the days you attend English education classes.
MELB and Sydney are expensive.esp Sydney,although the weather is warmer in the winter.No,your son won’t be learning 3 languages or taking tests in kindergarten here.its very much about socialization.Art,making things,being read to and play.l mean expensive generally…rent, housing…
2:42 dunno what she’s talking about. We had two options kindergarten which used to be public, and daycare which was private, i’m guessing the terms are interchangeable now. I’ve never seen in home care, but for $35 an hour i’d be paying the nanny more than i am earning.
Catholic vs public schools: Catholic schools have a reputation for providing a better education. Because of this, many non-Catholic parents send their children to them. They will have to learn Catholic dogma, but they don't have to be or become Catholics. If you are Catholic, the Catholic system is required to take your children if you choose to go that way. I think about 1/4 schools here are Catholic depending where you live.
Childcare is expensive for sure. You do get a rebate depending on your income. Never heard off the average person hiring someone to come to your home. Family day care is the where you take them to a persons house who has other children there as well. The preschool program has not started yet. And it is for disadvantaged families. Kindergarten is for 4 year olds then school starts at 5. So your son would start school here not kindergarten. Montessori is more
structured. School is compulsory from 5-16 here. Secondary school is year 8-12. Don’t know where this woman is getting her information from. We also have the summer holidays off. Don’t forget summer here is Dec- Feb. university is very expensive. My daughters uni course if over $40k. My children went to an independent private Anglican school, Wasn’t much religion just good principles. Totally worth it.
Geez.... this is a big can of worms!
In NSW and the ACT, generally infant schools are from K to yr 2, primary schools are yrs 3-6, and secondary schools from yr 7 to yr 10 or 12. Some areas have separate senior campuses for yrs 11-12, and some don't. The school year starts at the end of January/early February, and runs for 4 x 10 week terms, finishing sometime in December, with a long break over the Australian summer, including Christmas. The 4 terms are separated by 2 week breaks, and the timing of these breaks are staggered from state to state, so that you don't have every family with school students fighting for space at the various holiday destinations for 2 weeks, and then they sit idle until the next holiday, especially in the snowfields.
There are government schools, with minimal fees, or even free if you choose not to pay. These have to take any student in their "catchment area" and rowdy, disruptive students really have to work at it to be expelled from a government school.
Then there are private schools. These are usually faith based, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish and Islamic mostly, but can also be a systematic style of teaching eg Montessori or Steiner. These also have catchment areas, but can accept students from outside this area. These schools have moderate fees, usually with reduced rates for siblings. They also have an "easier" time expelling misbehaving students.
Lastly, there are the private, high fee (50k per year) type of schools. These are often boarding schools for remote country children, who face a long commute to and from school each day (2-3 hours by bus, sort of commute). But they are also for the children of rich people who want the best for their children. They often think the more it costs, the better it must be. Almost every year there is a story about students from one of these schools being expelled for something.
Not to mention the biggest school in Australia, the School of the Air, for the students in the outback parts of Australia (google it).
So basically take your pick, and take your chances. What suits one child may not suit their siblings. Some schools specialise in the arts, others in science, others in languages. Have fun comparing and contrasting.
The private Catholic schools fall into two classes, regional schools and private schools. The regional schools aren't as dear. The Catholic system here charges full fees for the first child, half fees for the second child, one third of fees for the third child and the fourth and subsequent children are educated for free. I went to a Catholic school, my children went to public school. My teachers belonged to a different union from government teachers and didn't strike like govt teachers. Our religion lessions were taught by professional teachers,and were about religions around the world and their impact on society. My kids scripture lessons in public school were given by religious nutjobs wanting to push their beliefs on children.
It's bizarre that religious groups have such a grip on public schools. I know that in NSW parents can opt out of having their children attend scripture lessons, but those children are not allowed to have actual lessons instead - at best they are allowed to read or do revision.
Come live in Canberra - bit pricey in terms of housing, but some great public schools (I assume the Public Service factor plays into this that people know what grants are available and how to leverage Government funding). Also got some reasonable private schools if that's your thing - but feels like there's not much need to choose the public schools unless there's specific things they offer (e.g. some of them are probably more sporty).
Kindy/preschool is sort of fun activities for the kids. They'll have indoor and outdoor stuff but it's often not very structured (so some people might be painting, others playing with Lego or other toys). There might be some "quiet time" where a teacher reads a book and some of the kids might nap, but generally it's sort of an introduction to a school environment without too much of the structure school has.
We've had mixed experience with different schools and homeworks - some schools seem to give it out from mid-primary, but we've also seen high schools with barely any. One of our big learning curves has been that yr11 and 12 are treated as separate from High School in the ACT (they call it College), and there isn't quite the same emphasis on exams (you can get accepted to Uni without sitting exams). THis is not something we (ex-pat South Aussies) are used to, where 11 & 12 would be part of High School, and exams were very important if you waned Uni.....
(sorry lots of edits). Catholic Private Schools seem to be increasingly charging higher fees (Which is ironic, because originally they were about giving schooling to people who couldn't afford it). I don't particularly think Private schools give better education, but there is some elitism where mixing in the right circles through school might give an advantage in terms of connections - but I know heaps of people from Public Schools who are highly successful, and lots of people from PRivate schools who aren't (and a lot of other permutations). I think Private schools *can* sometimes give opportunities that you wouldn't get in public, but I think it's still very possible for smart kids to thrive in public schools.
Daycare is very expensive. The one near my place wanted to charge about half my pay for a full week.
Religion-based schooling is subsidised and should be relatively the same price regardless of religion. They also need to meet the states education curriculum, so no need to worry about your child being academically disadvantaged.
Family daycares don't involve someone coming to your home. It's a private daycare centre run out of someone's house. Usually they are limited to.about six kids because there is only.one carer. But yes some women are not making any profit sending their kids to daycare while they work because it so expensive.
Really do your homework regarding where you choose to live Matt and then research education as each state does things differently. Malaysia is fairly hectic, even frantic in some places so if you're going for a more laid back life look to areas with minimal commutes, places a comfortable 10 or 15 minute drive away rather than 40+ minutes each way to everything or you'll all be exhausted all the time. Having lived in Sydney and Melbourne for several years each I found Perth the best place to bring up kids, for the weather and lifestyle, it's just so much more pleasant and easy. Real estate is expensive everywhere currently, a bummer for everyone.
2.09 Child care is free in Aus. The government pays for it. So this cost you will get back unless you are a high income earner. This variance in cost is due to the age of your child, not the centre. For a younger child, you pay more as they have a higher carer to child ratio. I would not recommend australia as a country for a good education. We have a national curriculum that is extremely left leaning. Over the past 15 years, essential reading and maths skills have dropped significantly and over the past 5 years, there has been a massive increase in homeschooling for this reason.
We don’t have school lunches like the uk does. You take your lunch or you buy it from the canteen.
There are nonprofit Daycares, and Business run daycares.
Your getting a very limited view as to what is actually available. You would be advised to get real info from an Aussie childhood education expert. We are very fortunate to have a well funded public education system in Oz. My whole family have been publicly educated and I'm very happy with the outcome. I don't believe that religious schools should be promoted as they lack diversity and waste too much time on scripture studies. The person on this video maybe slightly biased as she comes from a catholic dominated country.
Each family situation is different, so sometimes it's not even worth a parent returning to work against the cost of childcare, where one whole weekly wage could potentially be spent on childcare, especially if more than one child. However, the government wanted more women to return to the workplace (as it was generally the Mother that would sacrifice her work/career as the stay at home parent) therefore huge subsidies were introduced to entice a parent returning to the workforce sooner.
No such difference between high school yr 8 thru to yr 12, never heard of this yr 11 and 12 as Senior High School business, guess that's State dependent too.
In Australia, ease of education is mostly great (however, plenty of regional schools only go up to year 10, and the years 11 & 12 you need to qualify for university mean you have to send your kids a couple of hundred, to a couple of thousand, kilometres away -- which may involve boarding school and the costs associated with that), quality of education is debatable. Lots of other countries do it better: South Korea, Scandinavia.... Still, it is a great place to grow up.