Wow! That young man, Zander. He knows where he’s going. As a teacher, I’m going to use his line, “You’re only in this place (high school) for 5 years. You’re out in the world for the next 60 years.”
Having worked in both State and Private schools I have to say that I agree with the headteacher of the State school,it is not what you know but who you know.Private schooling doesn’t always mean better education.
I'm not a teacher, but I think it's also the attention you get from the teacher. Private probably means more attention from teachers than state because there's less students and there's more motivation for the teachers as they get paid more. Of course not every teacher will be motivated more by money but surely most of them are.
Well you have better quality education in that the one one time with the teacher is higher, the pace can also be quicker due to a small amount of kids not knowing the language. Also the kids in private schools come from families with less problems, overall higher discipline and different values which ultimately sets you up for more success in life. And obviously knowing the right people is the most important thing for a successful career anywhere you live. The full package is very much different and benefits students.
When Zander pulled the lace out of Brett’s mouth, and simply stated “doesn’t suit you.” It took a moment for Brett to compute how to handle it. Brett isn’t used to being ‘corrected.’
@@renegade-master29What factories still operate in the UK? That industry has passed we rely on other countries for that sort of production & industry, education needs to be improved massively especially the quality of education because so many young people are now entering the tertiary & quarternary sector they want all the top paying jobs and to do that they need to get accepted into the best universities and that's only possible if education is massively improved there's still schools that fail kids massively because they don't do enough and majority of that is in the North of England especially
That’s grammar schools are for, intelligent students who want a high quality education. You can be anything if you try, you dont need to rely on just your teachers. Private school’s aren’t all that either - student’s still (if anything, more) do their own independant learning because when you are in uni, teacher’s will not spoon feed you.
My brother went to state school, and now he has his own secretary and is almost the head of his organization. The snobbery I've encountered in his now social circles is laughable when you tell them where he comes from they hate it classism is a virus.
its just how you perceive it. snobbery is often misconstrued with just feeling proud of where you're from and where you've studied. of course there are outliers, there are some amazing kids who've gone on to accomplish amazing things with their lives from a background of a state school, but you can break it down to mere fundamentals as just being pattern recognition.
@@nylepentik2696 I am not anti posh I am anti snob there is a difference snobbery is looking down on others and they usually come from that background.
@@RandomnessTube. i just think its a matter of perspective. snobbery is often used as the label as the individual fails to recognise what actually is occurring. but regardless, not willing to have a debate on youtube comments lol. have a good day sir.
Generally reverse snobbery is more rampart. As a small child I soon learned to stop telling people what school I went to due the vitriol, hatred and judgement I received. Hearing as a child, “I hate private school kids” is something that stays with you.
Pretty astonishing outcomes from this short experiment. The young Syrian girl is definitely going somewhere. I hope her parents can continue to support her goal of getting to university which I’m pretty sure she’s going somewhere.
I'm from the USA and have no idea why this interests me so much. I guess class divide is universal enough. When looking at those private schools, I couldn't help thinking "What in the Harry Potter?"
@@kansasgoldilocks But the class divide via schooling isn’t as integrated in the US. People are less likely to care if you went on a fancy posh boarding high school. Going to a fancy posh university or Ivy League vs a public university is where the idea of classism is a bit more obvious in the US but most students and adults generally don’t care except the Ivy graduates and hiring managers. The snobbery still exist but in the US we respect self made people more hence why we have American multimillionaires and billionaires humble bragging their origins to success (but in reality most already came from the upper middle to elite class families to begin with).
Wow! That young man, Zander. He knows where he’s going. As a teacher, I’m going to use his line, “You’re only in this place (high school) for 5 years. You’re out in the world for the next 60 years.”
My husband works in private and state schools and said the kids are no brighter or more well behaved in the private schools, if anything they behave worse for the most part and the parents are horrendous to deal with. The state schools he see’s lots of very bright and talented kids that strive for success and want better. The state schools are just too full, they need to have more schools with fewer students to give the kids a better chance of a good education rather than being lost in the crowds.
The focus is on the different types of schools but the focus begins much earlier than that at home (different types of home environment). Children who have well educated parents are prone to be more motivated and focussed. They are less likely to drop out as well and they will be pushed and supported by their parents. They also have a hidden pressure to perform and be at least as well educated as their parents if not more. So school is just one piece in the puzzle. I studied in an expensive private school and became a professional and my elder brother studied in a state school and went on to specialise in three different academic subjects and he taught in two different colleges, was awarded states best teacher award and finished as a professor! So go figure how much school plays a part and how much your own motivation !
Having gone to a private school I do feel the teachers who go to work there do just want an easy life. I mean I had one teacher who admitted that the pay was less, yet after having a student eat his worksheet in front of him, he decided he couldn't cope with the behavioural issues you find more in state schools. They know the students are going to be compliant and act up less, they know they're already capable (was an entrance exam) so its less of a struggle raising those children up to receive As and A*s etc. I had teachers who called me stupid, when in reality they just didn't know how to teach the same thing in multiple ways, or its a case of "I've told you once, if you didn't get it the first time, deal with it". There's also an immense amount of pressure in private schools, we had GCSE style exams in the hall from year 7 onwards in the summer, your grades and scores could be seen by all the other students. There was an academic competitiveness that would either drive you far, or would grind you down to having horrendous self-esteem issues. I chose to go to a state college instead of the private sixth form, and would send my own children to a state school if given the choice between the two.
i go to a private school and its exactly as you said, most of the teachers are terrible at teaching and just sit there while we're forced to just do worksheets by ourselves....lazy much
I went to a fancy private international school in China and our teachers were also lazy and awful at teaching. They’d also face zero repercussions for treating students like shit. I vastly preferred the level of teaching of the state grammar school I went to in the UK for a year before I moved.
I feel as though private school students get a better quality of education and go to school for longer hours, therefore don’t have to work at home and are still better educated even being able to get time to “mess around.”
as someone at a private school you definitely still need to work at home. At my school we get a LOT of homework even though I go to school from 8-6:15 every day
@@tifffernandes8632at my school they strongly encourage all years to join in with extracurricular, even year 11 and 13s in exam year, so we have to find sneaky ways to get out of doing them to have study periods instead😂
I went to both private and state schools (private on scholarship) and I found the quality of the education far superior at the state school (hence why I left the private). The extra-curricular activities and facilities at the private school were obviously much better (and the food was great) but I honestly much preferred my time at state school overall. Obviously this depends massively on which school you go to but I don’t think it’s always true you get better education or an advantage by going to a private school.
My brother and I went to comprehensive schools. The teaching was good and you could go on to do whatever you wanted to if you applied yourself. I went to Cambridge and got a first and am now a scientist. My brother went on to study economics and work in Goldman Sachs and is now in upper management there. I saw that the biggest influence was the home background. If you had a supportive home background where you were expected to work hard and do your best then you were much more likely to succeed. I saw how hard it was for pupils that came from an unsupportive background with parents who did not appreciate their education or encourage them.
I went to 2 schools that had to be closed down and restarted as trusts. I then went to another state school, which was 'good'. The surrounding area has a massive effect on the school. My first 2 schools were in very rough areas, whereas the last school was in a slightly better area, but we would have called it posh. The difference was incredible, but at the end of the day, it does depend on the child.
It’s a shame that in this country there is such inequality when there doesn’t need to be. Private schools are just a way for the rich to gate keep their wealth, with some exceptions of poorer students so it looks ‘fair’.
Complete rubbish. private schools aren't for the rich. But for those parents who want to invest in their kid's future. As shown in this video it pays off. The private kids actually think about their future. Public schools are socialist propaganda centres, that ruin kids lives. They take a functioning kid and destroy them. They don't invest in teaching them philosophy so the kids have no understanding of virtue, no understanding of eudaimonia which life is all about. They have no ethics that guides humans. You communists are just upset that kids are out of your control and away from your propaganda. They aren't being taught to obey. They are free-thinking individuals. And free thinkers is what you communists hate.
Repeat from 2012. Where are they now? It would be interesting to see which education ended up being the best and what happened to them. (I left state school at age 15 (1957) with no qualifications and had a very successful career.)
And frankly that makes you the exception. First of all, most students who leave school without any qualifications (regardless of the quality of the school) face an immense challenge getting anything more than minimum wage jobs or those as unskilled laborers. Second that was nearly 70 years ago and these days just about every job seems to state that a university qualification is required (whether or not one realistically is required) and far more people are not only leaving secondary school with some qualifications but more are also going on to obtain some tertiary education (be that university or trades). It's not impossible to be successful without qualifications, but the expectation is an individual will struggle without them. As for which pupils in this were more successful, it doesn't take genius to see that posh students are miles ahead in terms of academics, have far more resources at their or their families' disposal, and have far more connections to the 'professional' class through their parents and thus have a much easier path to higher status/higher paying jobs.
@@dealbreakerc In my case after school I had some part time education and went to evening classes for many years, gained professional qualifications in electrical engineering and became fluent in a foreign language.
Good job! You worked hard, you made the right moves and you succeeded! Fantastic! The majority of people in this country can't take accountability for their own choices and constantly cry about how unfair life is.
I was in the private school sector for 10 years. I was always told I was privileged. I’m 60 now and not so sure it mattered. State schools have produced many great results. Many private school kids didn’t thrive and just led normal lives with nothing special happening in their lives. It’s down to the kids and what they choose to achieve later in life.
Completely disagree, went to both its very very different, even the way teachers speak to you and handle things. Much more thriving in all areas not just academia
@@globalnomad450no they’re different, my cousin went to private school and we did different exams even though our schools were only 20 minutes apart, hers were easier
This is crazy. I’m from the Netherlands and the state school looks like a private school to me. Insane, my school building looks like a worn down brick
Definitely felt like the kind of kid on the brink of either growing up or messing up. Xander seemed to push him towards the growing up path by just expecting more out of him
I feel, they don't get the reality check of life. Learning lessons while fighting wars to fit in, defend your mental state and dodge weird situations throughout educational life
if we apply the same sentiment as work-life balance, as an adult, to these schools, i feel as though the practicality of that does not apply as effectively to the private school, as it does the state school. At the end of the day, school is (or should be in theory) a preparation for life when you become an adult, but your teenage years is when you personally form an identity. Removing your parents, you obviously get to experience things that can form your own morals, and i think the private school does not allow this to happen with the 7 day school week, because to be truly educated in this world after school is to step outside of the echo chamber and understand all walks of life through family or friends. The private school kids always have this systematic drone over their heads seven days a week (even if they think they are getting social time through sport on saturday and chapel on sunday), they are still mingling with their own peers of the same mindset, respectively. Unfortunately this will wield a skewed view on everyday life in the world as soon as they leave their private school education and they will not be able to handle the everyday challenges of reality with the people who are “every day working people” that have most likely went to a state school and do not have the same financial standard of living. To the detriment of the children in this private school, they have been curated to have the same mentality of their peers that were in their ‘bubble’ per se, which will hurt them in the future when they leave. That may not be career wise, but socially. Spending all of your time seven days a week with people who have been conditioned in the same way as you, from your school, on school time, will not prepare you to be able to deal with every single person under the sun, in YOUR everyday life when you leave. just my opinion tho x
I attended both private and state schools, and I'm grateful for the experience. It gave me a strong foundation, the ability to connect with people easily, and a non-judgmental outlook on life. While the private school offered a better education, this was mainly due to smaller class sizes, more time spent at school, and better facilities, not the quality of the teachers.
Parents who actively invest time and energy into their children's development often seek schools that mirror or reinforce their values. If local state schools lack this alignment, private schools may feel like the safer option to ensure their efforts aren't undermined. In UK, most parents prefer to sit on sofa eating a kebab than look after their kids.
@@jamiethebookworm its not the job of the school to act as a parent. The country went downhill because of bad british parenting. No surprise then, that universities are sustaining themselves with well raised international students.
@@razamughal4582 LMAO someone called Razamughal is coping as immigrants always do. This country went downhill when immigrants come here and white people constantly score higher than all immigrants except maybe east asains in maths. And what you said about uni is just a total lie.
@@pupface I am in boarding school and I love it - I'm always surrounded by my friends and receive great educational support. However, every kid is different
I was privately educated until 16, not disregarding the fact I was very lucky but it was genuinely the worst years of my life. I didn’t follow the traditional route of sixth form and uni… I only did my degree at 24!
As someone who enjoyed school and hated people mesising about and ruing it for everyone, man.. i always did want to go to a private school, woulda suted me so much more than people being awfull for eachother "for fun".
I know private school has its own bullying problems but I wish I had too. I grew up dirt poor in a deprived area and school was honestly just a constant battle against both the students' disruptions and the teachers holding us back to keep us all at the same educational level, even if we were capable of far more.
I’m from the US and seeing how well behaved the kids are is amazing. I’ve been to public schools most of my life and the one here I can see is one of the best ones despite being in a “poor” area. It truly just depends, some public schools are better than the others and the same goes with private schools. I have cousins who went from public to private school who hated the experience in their private schools (their parents forced them to be there, they actually lacked confidence in that time because of it and had to deal with the rich students bullying the poor ones). Chances are it highly depends on the kid, their environment and whether it’s a great fit for them.
Would love to see a documentary about 1) The difference between public schools and private schools in Canada and 2) The difference between school structures of each kind in Canada and the UK. For example, if these kids were able to come over here.
The level of maturity and the self-esteem are the biggest differences to me. The private school kids have no doubt they‘ll succeed in life, and they are already doers. The state school kids seem more insecure, also financially. They have doubts, and doubts are like a slow poison.
It looks like the sun was out, my assumption was that the metal railing had simply gotten hot. When I was a child in the 1980s most of our playground equipment was made of metal and could get very hot out in the sun towards the summer time.
In the USA, our community state schools don't have pastoral care or extra support services, except for maybe a food pantry onsite and a clothing closet for homeless students to change their clothes or if there is an accident at school and parent can't bring clothes for a student to change into. That would be nice to have is a house system and pastoral care system to resolve conflict resolution or personal needs to get met.
True. I think we call them wraparound services here. Community colleges are starting to see their value and are seeing an increase of enrollment as well since tuition is rising so much at 4-years.
I come from Sydney Australia. We have different classes of state school. We have selective high schools where academic students go. Students are selected based on an exam in year 6. Then we have sporting and performing arts high schools which students must prove their proficiency in these subjects to get in. So, you take out all of these students that are succeeding in different areas, out of the public schools and what do you have left? Then you take out all the kids who have parents that save every penny because they value education, and of course the rich ones, that can't bring themselves to send their child to one of the, all excepting state schools, because they are in such a mess. Then try and attract staff to these schools that a full of behaviors and just poor kids that just want to learn. So yes, state school can be great but don't be poor or need some extra attention. No one wants to go to those, all excepting state schools. There are also different classes of private school as well, depending on how much you can pay, but I am trying not to write an essay.
I think being able to think critically and being creative are the most important things you can learn. Most problems I encounter in the real world are not in a text book or manual. I have worked with so called "educated" people and most do not know how to think. Their education was memorization. Also you need to come up with solutions under pressure. You cannot be afraid to just say your idea and try it. Even if it wrong. Some people I have worked with cannot think beyond their training and then they shutdown. I would say take the kids to a river and put them into teams and tell them find a way across.
Good Education is all about critical thinking. You’re taught to argue against your own position. Look at the education levels of people who believe in conspiracy theories. In real life, it’s always people who haven’t had a single minute of higher education that can’t critical determine nonsense.
One of my friends is a teacher but never went to teachers college to get a designation. He was hired as a teacher at a private school. He wouldn't have if he applied to a public school. Not saying he's a terrible teacher by any means, but it shows how rigid the public system is compared to the private and it does pose some questions about quality of education between the two.
On the contrary, when my students are "compliant" I become a better teacher!! Having to put out fires all the time is exhausting and takes away your actual teaching time...and motivation. Now I'm at teaching a state school whose students are really fantastic and I have recovered my passion for teaching and preparing really cool classes. At the other schools I suffered anxiety, had to deal with discipline issues all the time and lost my faith in teaching. So, no, you don't become lazy because your students are compliant! And if you do, change your job!!!
i go to a private school in australia and i hate the “posh rich kid” stereotype, we seriously aren’t much bigger or better then the public school down the road 😂
There's pros and cons to private vs public schools everywhere. Even within a small community, the quality between each school (even when comparing private vs private and public vs other public schools) will vary. I went to a private school, but I also felt I could have gotten about the same type of education in some of the public schools around my area. Obviously, there are better public schools than others as some are funded better than others. Every school has their good teachers and bad teachers.
Interesting. I can't imagine what they weren't allowed to air. Obviously it was passed by the parents first before releasing this. But it's an interesting contrast.
In comparison private schools have half the students and double the budget. So every teacher has quadruble resources available to ensure private educated children get better education. It is still a socio-economic class thing, but not as clear as it once was. I want to commend on the bravery of the private school kids for being empathetic, curious and interested in the lives of average people. Understanding the people is an important trait if any of them grow up to be leaders.
i still dont understand what the difference between a state and private school is in the UK. is it like public school vs private? where does the boarding school come in
"Public" schools are public in the sense that they are not private tutors. They are very much private and exclusive. Most students are legacies of their (usually) very rich parents, or parents willing to impoverish themselves to help their children establish a network of friends and acquaintances and Received Pronunciation (RP) that will help them in life and career. They just retain the name of "public".
The basics don't change, ie english, maths, physics, chemistry, etc... state and private school students have different circumstances, but in most cases there's little reason that a State school student can't compete. This bashing of private schools is boring. At the end of the day, the student has to put in the work. And yes, when it comes to careers, who you know helps, however, the British system allows ample opportunities for people to climb the economic ladder. Furthermore, in today's environment, you're starting to see minorities help each other, for example, asians preferring to hire other asians.
The older I get, the more I understand private school. Children have access to more effective help and better extracurriculars (not just football). I am not too sure about the truth in this, but I do suppose my dyslexia may have been caught earlier if I went to one, instead of being diagnosed adulthood. Individual support for outliers is essential, and it’s something that state schools just don’t really have the means for still.
Private schools are at such a landslide comparison with public/state schools and it’s upsetting because for individuals who want those high jobs find it more difficult to get to whereas private school individuals tend to have a easier ride due to them already being set at an advantage. Having to pay for private school also says a lot as it goes into the school and government however with state schools there’s often no funding for schools to reach the same potential as private school from the government even though there should be as it’s for the development of younger children who will go to have important jobs, equality should be the main goal many children should feel supported to be who they want to be and not feel as if they should slack off because they don’t get the support. Going to public schools myself there’s even a difference between the area that your school is in which heavily impacts things as different areas being neglected by the government. Just a cycle really
Right so I'm not sure you understand why private schools are often "fee paying". The reason that you have to pay to go to these schools is for the precise reason that they are not funded by the government at all and you can look that up on the .gov website (state schools are government funded where do you think the money comes from). I do a understand the whole "being set an advantage" argument but it's not as blatant as if you go to a private school you get better jobs instantly. The main advantages are the opportunities that they allow, for example choosing GCSE's can be hard as state schools might just not run some courses because not enough people want to do it while in private schools because of the fees even if 1 person takes that GCSE the school can still afford to pay the teacher to teach it. As well as that not everyone who goes to private schools are the super rich and many will be on scholarships. I'm fully aware that private schools offer some better resources compared to state schools but at the end of the day if you had the wealth to give your child a better education wouldn't you send them to one?
@ of course I would send them to one but my argument is that it shouldn’t be so divided and the government should be funding state schools more for basic necessities, the division isn’t a small gap its a extremely big one along with social bias it doesn’t make the university,job placement and work experience journey any easier. I’m aware people are paying for the experience but it’s just unfortunate that there’s many people who would love to go to private school but genuinely can’t afford the privilege this isn’t argument between rich and poor it’s just putting the government at responsibility. There are fantastic state schools that do have great fundamentals and try really hard to support students but like I said this can vary extremely based on where you’re located, being set at what feels like a permanent set back is probably one of the biggest motivation for some or the biggest hurdle to overcome. Scholarships are viable but are extremely extremely competitive and hard to get, one thing that is great for students from less fortunate backgrounds are opportunities like Sutton trust or bursary’s for school supplies etc. I don’t blame rich people for wanting what’s best for their child when I have kids I will do everything I can for them to have the best education possible if I can afford it but if I can’t afford it I know it will be heart breaking as a parent to feel like you’re somehow “letting them down” having the nurturing responsibility of a parent you will always strive for what’s best but if I don’t have that option UNFORTUNATELY then I just hope my child will do their best at a state school and that’s okay but I know they’ll need extra help and support for the lack the school might be not being able to provide. The only negative I feel with private school is a lack of family life but thats all.
@@philippoulton-haselier3152 It has to do with philosophy. Public schools teach kids to obey. They destroy the kid's brains. This is what the socialists wanted. It was Kant that destroyed the Enlightenment. He destroyed reason. From Kant, you get Hegel then Engels and Marx. Public education in the UK was much better for teaching kids how to live a life because it taught kids philosophy. The government doesn't want us to learn philosophy. It doesn't want us to learn about how good capitalism is because if you learn about that you won't be a slave. That's why our communist government is at war with private schools. They understand that if you want to control the masses you need to teach them to obey.
@@Strawberrlla The clip proved the way that kids think in private vs public. The Private school kid thinks about his future. The public school kid thinks about now. He can't see that he can't rationally think about his life. This is what the socialists did to the education system. It didn't used to be like that. Kids learned philosophy. Kids learned how to improve themselves and think rationally. But the socialist attack on education was to create more slaves. As socialism is a neo-platonist. If you read platos republic it was to have the people at the top and the slaves working. Communists made it their mission to destroy the kids brains they looked at ww2 and saw that they could manipulate the masses. It's about power. It's why in 1960's we had kids take over universities that were similar to maoism. It was about power. Homeschooling is better than public education. The internet is better at teaching. Even ChatGPT is better.
You see where the issue is. The issue isn't private or state school. The issue is parents not putting discipline into their children. I'm just on the 15mins mark and when you look at the private child's schedule and the state school one. The private kids wake up 6:30, in school at 8:50 and not home till 5pm. State school the kids wake up at 8am and finish at 3pm. The country needs to double down on parents being aware they can improve their children's lives by putting discipline in their children's lives.
Well it's the responsibility of the parent. I went to state school and had to compete against everyone, but my parents always taught me good manners, behavior and the fact I should try in my studies. I did try, but I'm nowhere near the level of a privately educated pupil. I got good grades in maths A eng A, science was a C. But compared to private school kids they get A* in almost all of their subjects because the teaching quality is much better and the fact they have a private tutor aswell. Basically what I'm trying to say is, good manners and discipline isn't even enough, you have to be born smart and with the right tools for success.
What has what time a kid wakes up and finishes school go to do with discipline? They all arrive and finish the exact time they are meant to. If anything it should be the discipline installed with regards to installing good work ethic (i.e house chores, revising the work you did at school, organization and motivation should come from both parents and teachers)
@@Maksimszz I disagree with a child being born smart. I tutor maths and 15 years of teaching I've learnt when you really put discipline into children from early morning wake up, to studying outside of school hours and extra curricular activities from the age of 7 it makes a massive difference to them growing up smart. Private schools only advantage is that there's less children in the class so the teachers can focus more on the children which state schools can't do but that doesn't give state school children that disadvantage if parents understand what discipline and how much structure is required for the child from young age in order for them to have intelligence. I can say this because I only take on students with dyslexia or poor backgrounds and charge way less but my only requirement is those parents adopt a tought discipline stance on their children's education. 95% of my students all got straight As in A levels and got into top top 5 unis and went to state school so I'm qualified enough to make that assesment. The 5% who didn't get that A* but got a B is because their parents didn't adopt that discipline from young age and didn't want to take on that extra responsibility so I dropped them before they got to year 9. They had other tutors of course who didn't care and just wanted the money.
@@SirArtsy that is what I said but yes even them waking up early is part of that mentally strong resilient discipline but everything else you said I agree
@tanveerUKhan15 you must be delusional if you think a person with an iq of 70 has a remote chance of getting into the top jobs, it's literally been statistically proven that if you are born with a higher iq, you tend to have better jobs and financial stability. The reason why they got straight A's and got into the top unis is because they had a private tutor which is you and also the fact that they were born pretty smart.
Controversial opinion but i believe and have seen apart from a few outliers. Intelligence does have a positive correlation with income as shown by degree and higher earnings stats therefore private school students parents are generally more intelligent than the average joe and that is passed onto the kids. Multiply that by higher education quality from private you end up with a level and goce results like seen.
Brett knows that playing around at school is going to impact the rest of his life but he just can't help himself... This isn't a failure of teachers, it's a failure of the pupils themselves. You have to care enough to WANT to be successful to be successful, and Brett clearly doesn't.
I got into my school through scholarship but it’s a public school. I wasn’t in the area so I passed in flying colours with music, my specialty. The thing is my school is bad. There’s no help for me. I need help but I can’t ask anyone. I need a school councillor but it’s all other students.
Having been in state school in the UK and state school in Switzerland. It's no wonder british schools have such a terrible reputation. THIS one is pretty good but many are so much worse than I even experienced. I had not only learn German but then catch up on maths I hadn't learnt.
From my observation the state schools is failing because the teachers are not understanding the level of knowledge their students have. To teach you need to come the level of understanding of your student and patiently repeat it until the students grasps and understands it.
State schools are fine if you are a middle/average student. Where they fall down is either side of that. Top or bottom students don’t get catered for and slip between the cracks. BUT! Education starts and finishes at home. Safe, happy, stable family life will go a long way in a child’s life and eduction as well.
@TheEnzedone true that.. first educator in a child's life is their home. For those who fall through that cracks educators still need to involve them and motivate them to keep showing up and learn. When a students has no guidance, the schools have to guide them. The motto needs to be no pupil left behind
im not sure if it counts as lower education when most of the students are foreigners who barely know the language; it's not that the education is bad, but that they don't have the fundamentals. Also this UK public is far more sophisticated compared with americans.
It is beyond my mind that the poor boy live in mess like that. There is no excuse for poor parents to choose to live in conditions like this. Pure laziness. I am myself from council estate, but paint my house every 2-3 years and bloody clean it. What is wrong with people?
believe it or not but some people are poor enough to have to choose between paint and food, food is always going to come first. Poverty is real, it’s not laziness.
I knew a family of 8. Mum had left, dad was left to look after 7 kids. He worked 12 hour days, sometimes longer, but still couldn’t afford to feed everyone and relied on food banks to top up what they could get so everyone could eat. He didn’t have the money let alone the time to keep the house looking immaculate. All of the kids did their best to keep it tidy but they had 4 sharing a tiny room, 3 on mattresses on the floor of another room, dad slept on the sofa. The council house was tiny and with that many people living there it was impossible to keep it tidy purely because there was not enough space. They couldn’t afford paint. They couldn’t afford new furniture to replace the broken things. They couldn’t afford period products for the girls (the school provided these for them though, thankfully). They had nothing except each other. They weren’t lazy, they did their damn best. The dad was a loving father who would give anything to keep his kids happy and safe. Maybe don’t assume that all families are the same, and maybe don’t insult people without knowing the details of what they’re going through :)
I'd love to see these posh kids, or even the ordinary Brit students, survive just a few hours in a High School in the USA, which is run on the principles of Survival of the Fittest.
Wow! That young man, Zander. He knows where he’s going. As a teacher, I’m going to use his line, “You’re only in this place (high school) for 5 years. You’re out in the world for the next 60 years.”
They probably picked him for this programme because he's more mature than the others, not because he goes to private
Having worked in both State and Private schools I have to say that I agree with the headteacher of the State school,it is not what you know but who you know.Private schooling doesn’t always mean better education.
It’s more opportunities
I'm not a teacher, but I think it's also the attention you get from the teacher. Private probably means more attention from teachers than state because there's less students and there's more motivation for the teachers as they get paid more. Of course not every teacher will be motivated more by money but surely most of them are.
@@carkod Yes, there are less students.
For sure. The biggest benefit Ivy league schools have is that you'll make lifelong friendships with the smartest people in the world.
Well you have better quality education in that the one one time with the teacher is higher, the pace can also be quicker due to a small amount of kids not knowing the language. Also the kids in private schools come from families with less problems, overall higher discipline and different values which ultimately sets you up for more success in life. And obviously knowing the right people is the most important thing for a successful career anywhere you live. The full package is very much different and benefits students.
When Zander pulled the lace out of Brett’s mouth, and simply stated “doesn’t suit you.” It took a moment for Brett to compute how to handle it. Brett isn’t used to being ‘corrected.’
True
❤.
Xander's just a knob let the kid do what he wants its not affecting Xander
The spelling is Xander, short for Alexander.
Just a nobhead thing to do though. Seen people like Zander at university and they're just dickheads
@@donk7001Xander is someone who has good standards. We need more of him. Too many careless plebs being raised in our country.
Every kid deserves a high quality education, prove me wrong.
We need some factory workers
@@renegade-master29can they not still have access to a good education?
@@renegade-master29What factories still operate in the UK? That industry has passed we rely on other countries for that sort of production & industry, education needs to be improved massively especially the quality of education because so many young people are now entering the tertiary & quarternary sector they want all the top paying jobs and to do that they need to get accepted into the best universities and that's only possible if education is massively improved there's still schools that fail kids massively because they don't do enough and majority of that is in the North of England especially
That’s grammar schools are for, intelligent students who want a high quality education. You can be anything if you try, you dont need to rely on just your teachers. Private school’s aren’t all that either - student’s still (if anything, more) do their own independant learning because when you are in uni, teacher’s will not spoon feed you.
@@rnosibZ57not the smartest if you think this country doesn’t rely on factories, clearly you didn’t get the privilege of private education 😂
My brother went to state school, and now he has his own secretary and is almost the head of his organization. The snobbery I've encountered in his now social circles is laughable when you tell them where he comes from they hate it classism is a virus.
There is a reason they wear their school ties 30 years after leaving.
its just how you perceive it. snobbery is often misconstrued with just feeling proud of where you're from and where you've studied. of course there are outliers, there are some amazing kids who've gone on to accomplish amazing things with their lives from a background of a state school, but you can break it down to mere fundamentals as just being pattern recognition.
@@nylepentik2696 I am not anti posh I am anti snob there is a difference snobbery is looking down on others and they usually come from that background.
@@RandomnessTube. i just think its a matter of perspective. snobbery is often used as the label as the individual fails to recognise what actually is occurring. but regardless, not willing to have a debate on youtube comments lol. have a good day sir.
Generally reverse snobbery is more rampart. As a small child I soon learned to stop telling people what school I went to due the vitriol, hatred and judgement I received. Hearing as a child, “I hate private school kids” is something that stays with you.
Pretty astonishing outcomes from this short experiment. The young Syrian girl is definitely going somewhere. I hope her parents can continue to support her goal of getting to university which I’m pretty sure she’s going somewhere.
She did it... she's a medical student now. Found her on Linkedin :)
@@DP-tf7qb omg that's amazing
@@DP-tf7qb at cambridge too just how she wished
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I'm from the USA and have no idea why this interests me so much. I guess class divide is universal enough. When looking at those private schools, I couldn't help thinking "What in the Harry Potter?"
Well, I would say that this is pretty similar to the U.S. We have the private high schools (prep schools) and private universities as well.
@@kansasgoldilocks But the class divide via schooling isn’t as integrated in the US. People are less likely to care if you went on a fancy posh boarding high school. Going to a fancy posh university or Ivy League vs a public university is where the idea of classism is a bit more obvious in the US but most students and adults generally don’t care except the Ivy graduates and hiring managers. The snobbery still exist but in the US we respect self made people more hence why we have American multimillionaires and billionaires humble bragging their origins to success (but in reality most already came from the upper middle to elite class families to begin with).
Wow! That young man, Zander. He knows where he’s going. As a teacher, I’m going to use his line, “You’re only in this place (high school) for 5 years. You’re out in the world for the next 60 years.”
All of the kids refections in this are so open and deep, they're all brilliant!
As a student who has attended a state school and a private school, not all public schools are as good as this one
My husband works in private and state schools and said the kids are no brighter or more well behaved in the private schools, if anything they behave worse for the most part and the parents are horrendous to deal with. The state schools he see’s lots of very bright and talented kids that strive for success and want better. The state schools are just too full, they need to have more schools with fewer students to give the kids a better chance of a good education rather than being lost in the crowds.
LMAO AT 16:51 THE FEMALE HISTORY TEACHER WAS LAUGHING 💀💀💀
14:39 this made me CACKLE 😂 he knows hes being silly, its almost like he appreciates someone wanting more from him than silliness
omg mr thomas was my old teacher and helped me get an a in a level maths! glad to see he’s still doing well!
The focus is on the different types of schools but the focus begins much earlier than that at home (different types of home environment). Children who have well educated parents are prone to be more motivated and focussed. They are less likely to drop out as well and they will be pushed and supported by their parents. They also have a hidden pressure to perform and be at least as well educated as their parents if not more. So school is just one piece in the puzzle. I studied in an expensive private school and became a professional and my elder brother studied in a state school and went on to specialise in three different academic subjects and he taught in two different colleges, was awarded states best teacher award and finished as a professor! So go figure how much school plays a part and how much your own motivation !
I'm from America, and this is a universal point. It boils down to the parents.
Having gone to a private school I do feel the teachers who go to work there do just want an easy life. I mean I had one teacher who admitted that the pay was less, yet after having a student eat his worksheet in front of him, he decided he couldn't cope with the behavioural issues you find more in state schools. They know the students are going to be compliant and act up less, they know they're already capable (was an entrance exam) so its less of a struggle raising those children up to receive As and A*s etc. I had teachers who called me stupid, when in reality they just didn't know how to teach the same thing in multiple ways, or its a case of "I've told you once, if you didn't get it the first time, deal with it". There's also an immense amount of pressure in private schools, we had GCSE style exams in the hall from year 7 onwards in the summer, your grades and scores could be seen by all the other students. There was an academic competitiveness that would either drive you far, or would grind you down to having horrendous self-esteem issues.
I chose to go to a state college instead of the private sixth form, and would send my own children to a state school if given the choice between the two.
i go to a private school and its exactly as you said, most of the teachers are terrible at teaching and just sit there while we're forced to just do worksheets by ourselves....lazy much
I went to a fancy private international school in China and our teachers were also lazy and awful at teaching. They’d also face zero repercussions for treating students like shit. I vastly preferred the level of teaching of the state grammar school I went to in the UK for a year before I moved.
I feel as though private school students get a better quality of education and go to school for longer hours, therefore don’t have to work at home and are still better educated even being able to get time to “mess around.”
as someone at a private school you definitely still need to work at home. At my school we get a LOT of homework even though I go to school from 8-6:15 every day
Do you find it hard to balance extra curriculars and homework or are extra curriculars non-compulsory so you can spend a lot of time working?
They get longer school holidays at private school. Summer tends to be 8 weeks, Christmas is 3 etc
@@tifffernandes8632at my school they strongly encourage all years to join in with extracurricular, even year 11 and 13s in exam year, so we have to find sneaky ways to get out of doing them to have study periods instead😂
I went to both private and state schools (private on scholarship) and I found the quality of the education far superior at the state school (hence why I left the private). The extra-curricular activities and facilities at the private school were obviously much better (and the food was great) but I honestly much preferred my time at state school overall. Obviously this depends massively on which school you go to but I don’t think it’s always true you get better education or an advantage by going to a private school.
My brother and I went to comprehensive schools. The teaching was good and you could go on to do whatever you wanted to if you applied yourself. I went to Cambridge and got a first and am now a scientist. My brother went on to study economics and work in Goldman Sachs and is now in upper management there. I saw that the biggest influence was the home background. If you had a supportive home background where you were expected to work hard and do your best then you were much more likely to succeed. I saw how hard it was for pupils that came from an unsupportive background with parents who did not appreciate their education or encourage them.
It's fascinating seeing the level of maturity of the private school lad vs the state school.
I went to 2 schools that had to be closed down and restarted as trusts.
I then went to another state school, which was 'good'.
The surrounding area has a massive effect on the school.
My first 2 schools were in very rough areas, whereas the last school was in a slightly better area, but we would have called it posh.
The difference was incredible, but at the end of the day, it does depend on the child.
13:30 I feel bad for him, look at his room, hope he’s okay.
He's probably doing just fine, poverty doesn't really allow the spare change for a lavish bedroom
I had the same thought when I saw that shot. I hope the kid is doing well now and made it to uni
Luckily there are amazing teachers like Mr Thomas in most state schools. I had a teacher who was headhunted by a Hong Kong private school though. 😅
omg do you know which school?
It’s a shame that in this country there is such inequality when there doesn’t need to be. Private schools are just a way for the rich to gate keep their wealth, with some exceptions of poorer students so it looks ‘fair’.
Well the private school in the video is an extreme. Most private schools aren’t like that.
@@the_tapioca1 there are plenty of private schools like that
@@Emilovesu and there are plenty that aren't. Not all state schools are like Bemrose either
@@em-ls no school is the same as each other. The person said "most" private schools aren't like that. In the UK most are. Not every, but most.
Complete rubbish. private schools aren't for the rich. But for those parents who want to invest in their kid's future. As shown in this video it pays off. The private kids actually think about their future. Public schools are socialist propaganda centres, that ruin kids lives. They take a functioning kid and destroy them. They don't invest in teaching them philosophy so the kids have no understanding of virtue, no understanding of eudaimonia which life is all about. They have no ethics that guides humans. You communists are just upset that kids are out of your control and away from your propaganda. They aren't being taught to obey. They are free-thinking individuals. And free thinkers is what you communists hate.
Repeat from 2012. Where are they now? It would be interesting to see which education ended up being the best and what happened to them.
(I left state school at age 15 (1957) with no qualifications and had a very successful career.)
And frankly that makes you the exception. First of all, most students who leave school without any qualifications (regardless of the quality of the school) face an immense challenge getting anything more than minimum wage jobs or those as unskilled laborers. Second that was nearly 70 years ago and these days just about every job seems to state that a university qualification is required (whether or not one realistically is required) and far more people are not only leaving secondary school with some qualifications but more are also going on to obtain some tertiary education (be that university or trades). It's not impossible to be successful without qualifications, but the expectation is an individual will struggle without them.
As for which pupils in this were more successful, it doesn't take genius to see that posh students are miles ahead in terms of academics, have far more resources at their or their families' disposal, and have far more connections to the 'professional' class through their parents and thus have a much easier path to higher status/higher paying jobs.
@@dealbreakerc In my case after school I had some part time education and went to evening classes for many years, gained professional qualifications in electrical engineering and became fluent in a foreign language.
1957 was also a very different time
Good job! You worked hard, you made the right moves and you succeeded! Fantastic!
The majority of people in this country can't take accountability for their own choices and constantly cry about how unfair life is.
Yeah it’s a bit old now, wish they’d do another one of these documentaries in 2025 that’s totally up to date
I was in the private school sector for 10 years. I was always told I was privileged. I’m 60 now and not so sure it mattered. State schools have produced many great results. Many private school kids didn’t thrive and just led normal lives with nothing special happening in their lives. It’s down to the kids and what they choose to achieve later in life.
Completely disagree, went to both its very very different, even the way teachers speak to you and handle things. Much more thriving in all areas not just academia
@ fair enough..
they have easier GCSE’s and A-levels.
@ aren’t they the same ?
@@globalnomad450no they’re different, my cousin went to private school and we did different exams even though our schools were only 20 minutes apart, hers were easier
This is crazy. I’m from the Netherlands and the state school looks like a private school to me. Insane, my school building looks like a worn down brick
Same 😭 I am from the UK but the state one literally looks like a nice private school, they should have chosen a real state school lol
When the teacher's leading introduction to the schools is the buildings, I have already second-doubted its education
Great episode- when is the next one coming out?
It's already out, it's on our stories channel
this has been reuploaded consistently for at least the last 8 years. the next one is already out
Brett was the dark horse. He will do well as he gains confidence.
Definitely felt like the kind of kid on the brink of either growing up or messing up. Xander seemed to push him towards the growing up path by just expecting more out of him
@@justalittledangerousHe actually went to the fancy school with a full scholarship
I feel, they don't get the reality check of life. Learning lessons while fighting wars to fit in, defend your mental state and dodge weird situations throughout educational life
this is giving me flashbacks 🫠
if we apply the same sentiment as work-life balance, as an adult, to these schools, i feel as though the practicality of that does not apply as effectively to the private school, as it does the state school. At the end of the day, school is (or should be in theory) a preparation for life when you become an adult, but your teenage years is when you personally form an identity. Removing your parents, you obviously get to experience things that can form your own morals, and i think the private school does not allow this to happen with the 7 day school week, because to be truly educated in this world after school is to step outside of the echo chamber and understand all walks of life through family or friends. The private school kids always have this systematic drone over their heads seven days a week (even if they think they are getting social time through sport on saturday and chapel on sunday), they are still mingling with their own peers of the same mindset, respectively. Unfortunately this will wield a skewed view on everyday life in the world as soon as they leave their private school education and they will not be able to handle the everyday challenges of reality with the people who are “every day working people” that have most likely went to a state school and do not have the same financial standard of living. To the detriment of the children in this private school, they have been curated to have the same mentality of their peers that were in their ‘bubble’ per se, which will hurt them in the future when they leave. That may not be career wise, but socially. Spending all of your time seven days a week with people who have been conditioned in the same way
as you, from your school, on school time, will not prepare you to be able to deal with every single person under the sun, in YOUR everyday life when you leave. just my opinion tho x
I attended both private and state schools, and I'm grateful for the experience. It gave me a strong foundation, the ability to connect with people easily, and a non-judgmental outlook on life. While the private school offered a better education, this was mainly due to smaller class sizes, more time spent at school, and better facilities, not the quality of the teachers.
Parents who actively invest time and energy into their children's development often seek schools that mirror or reinforce their values. If local state schools lack this alignment, private schools may feel like the safer option to ensure their efforts aren't undermined. In UK, most parents prefer to sit on sofa eating a kebab than look after their kids.
Exactly right
and why should the kid be punished or miss out because of that? It's not their fault.
@@razamughal4582 but why should the kid pay for that? It's not their fault
@@jamiethebookworm its not the job of the school to act as a parent. The country went downhill because of bad british parenting. No surprise then, that universities are sustaining themselves with well raised international students.
@@razamughal4582 LMAO someone called Razamughal is coping as immigrants always do. This country went downhill when immigrants come here and white people constantly score higher than all immigrants except maybe east asains in maths. And what you said about uni is just a total lie.
I feel so sorry for these kids packed off to boarding school. Effectively abandoned by their parents.
i know right! i don’t understand how u can just ship off ur kid like that, unless they want to go
@@Hit1889 racist
@@Hit1889 try being racist to my face and see how long you manage to preserve yourself
@@pupface I am in boarding school and I love it - I'm always surrounded by my friends and receive great educational support. However, every kid is different
@Bastian-f2y glad to hear you enjoy it :)
I was privately educated until 16, not disregarding the fact I was very lucky but it was genuinely the worst years of my life. I didn’t follow the traditional route of sixth form and uni… I only did my degree at 24!
As someone who enjoyed school and hated people mesising about and ruing it for everyone, man.. i always did want to go to a private school, woulda suted me so much more than people being awfull for eachother "for fun".
I know private school has its own bullying problems but I wish I had too. I grew up dirt poor in a deprived area and school was honestly just a constant battle against both the students' disruptions and the teachers holding us back to keep us all at the same educational level, even if we were capable of far more.
I’m from the US and seeing how well behaved the kids are is amazing. I’ve been to public schools most of my life and the one here I can see is one of the best ones despite being in a “poor” area. It truly just depends, some public schools are better than the others and the same goes with private schools. I have cousins who went from public to private school who hated the experience in their private schools (their parents forced them to be there, they actually lacked confidence in that time because of it and had to deal with the rich students bullying the poor ones). Chances are it highly depends on the kid, their environment and whether it’s a great fit for them.
Would love to see a documentary about 1) The difference between public schools and private schools in Canada and 2) The difference between school structures of each kind in Canada and the UK. For example, if these kids were able to come over here.
The level of maturity and the self-esteem are the biggest differences to me. The private school kids have no doubt they‘ll succeed in life, and they are already doers. The state school kids seem more insecure, also financially. They have doubts, and doubts are like a slow poison.
These children look sad… I was so happy at that time of my life…
I cannot wait for the day society feels comfortable listening to a video without theatrical music in the background.
35:10 do you reckon he moved his hand like that thinking how dirty that pole probably is but then felt he had to put it back for the camera?
It looks like the sun was out, my assumption was that the metal railing had simply gotten hot. When I was a child in the 1980s most of our playground equipment was made of metal and could get very hot out in the sun towards the summer time.
4 minutes in and I’m already rooting for Team State School
i swear iv watched this 3 times, why is it uploaded 12 days ago
coz they delete and reupload for more views. everything at this point is just a reupload
In the USA, our community state schools don't have pastoral care or extra support services, except for maybe a food pantry onsite and a clothing closet for homeless students to change their clothes or if there is an accident at school and parent can't bring clothes for a student to change into. That would be nice to have is a house system and pastoral care system to resolve conflict resolution or personal needs to get met.
There are some districts that have school counselors and school social workers.
True. I think we call them wraparound services here. Community colleges are starting to see their value and are seeing an increase of enrollment as well since tuition is rising so much at 4-years.
@@magicdragon9621 As they should considering I found better professors teaching in community colleges
I am amazed, how mature thoight process, pupils from Private school are.
I come from Sydney Australia. We have different classes of state school. We have selective high schools where academic students go. Students are selected based on an exam in year 6. Then we have sporting and performing arts high schools which students must prove their proficiency in these subjects to get in. So, you take out all of these students that are succeeding in different areas, out of the public schools and what do you have left? Then you take out all the kids who have parents that save every penny because they value education, and of course the rich ones, that can't bring themselves to send their child to one of the, all excepting state schools, because they are in such a mess. Then try and attract staff to these schools that a full of behaviors and just poor kids that just want to learn. So yes, state school can be great but don't be poor or need some extra attention. No one wants to go to those, all excepting state schools. There are also different classes of private school as well, depending on how much you can pay, but I am trying not to write an essay.
well this has been a surprisingly great watch!
private school with those sort of desktops is criminal
1:32 Off topic but to the kid who put the poster of the a380 in their room, I LOVE YOU
Why can’t we video the second video? It says that it is hidden..
"a city called Aleppo"
😂
I think being able to think critically and being creative are the most important things you can learn. Most problems I encounter in the real world are not in a text book or manual.
I have worked with so called "educated" people and most do not know how to think. Their education was memorization. Also you need to come up with solutions under pressure. You cannot be afraid to just say your idea and try it. Even if it wrong. Some people I have worked with cannot think beyond their training and then they shutdown.
I would say take the kids to a river and put them into teams and tell them find a way across.
Good Education is all about critical thinking. You’re taught to argue against your own position.
Look at the education levels of people who believe in conspiracy theories. In real life, it’s always people who haven’t had a single minute of higher education that can’t critical determine nonsense.
36:55 having a conversation about how important healthy food is while serving that shit. Says it all.
One of my friends is a teacher but never went to teachers college to get a designation. He was hired as a teacher at a private school. He wouldn't have if he applied to a public school. Not saying he's a terrible teacher by any means, but it shows how rigid the public system is compared to the private and it does pose some questions about quality of education between the two.
On the contrary, when my students are "compliant" I become a better teacher!! Having to put out fires all the time is exhausting and takes away your actual teaching time...and motivation. Now I'm at teaching a state school whose students are really fantastic and I have recovered my passion for teaching and preparing really cool classes. At the other schools I suffered anxiety, had to deal with discipline issues all the time and lost my faith in teaching. So, no, you don't become lazy because your students are compliant! And if you do, change your job!!!
its not private and state, its rich and poor
holy adverts man. 26 ads in a 45 video.
Adverts are governed by RUclips not the person uploading the video, buying Premium solves the advert problem.
5:49 can we point out that it says it’s on Ofsted “Good”, unlike the majority of schools in Leicestershire and Derbyshire?
What are the majority like?
i go to a private school in australia and i hate the “posh rich kid” stereotype, we seriously aren’t much bigger or better then the public school down the road 😂
Depends on the school to be fair. Some schools are very, very different.
@ i agree 100%
Where is part 2? 😊
no freaking way 5:25 was my old maths teacher
is this a reupload or new one?
27K to board isn't that bad. I am spending 18K for a non-boarding school, only lunch included.
Yeeah my parents looked at Queen Annes for me (I also got accepted) but that's next next level cost wise. We moved to Switzerland instead 😂
I’m walking out with more understanding of the world around me! Fundamental teaching for young people.
There's pros and cons to private vs public schools everywhere. Even within a small community, the quality between each school (even when comparing private vs private and public vs other public schools) will vary. I went to a private school, but I also felt I could have gotten about the same type of education in some of the public schools around my area. Obviously, there are better public schools than others as some are funded better than others. Every school has their good teachers and bad teachers.
Interesting. I can't imagine what they weren't allowed to air. Obviously it was passed by the parents first before releasing this. But it's an interesting contrast.
In comparison private schools have half the students and double the budget. So every teacher has quadruble resources available to ensure private educated children get better education. It is still a socio-economic class thing, but not as clear as it once was. I want to commend on the bravery of the private school kids for being empathetic, curious and interested in the lives of average people. Understanding the people is an important trait if any of them grow up to be leaders.
Teachers make the school, just because they're publicly funded does not mean they're inferior.
i still dont understand what the difference between a state and private school is in the UK.
is it like public school vs private? where does the boarding school come in
yes, state=public, and boarding school(usually private) is where the students live on campus
"Public" schools are public in the sense that they are not private tutors. They are very much private and exclusive. Most students are legacies of their (usually) very rich parents, or parents willing to impoverish themselves to help their children establish a network of friends and acquaintances and Received Pronunciation (RP) that will help them in life and career. They just retain the name of "public".
The basics don't change, ie english, maths, physics, chemistry, etc... state and private school students have different circumstances, but in most cases there's little reason that a State school student can't compete. This bashing of private schools is boring. At the end of the day, the student has to put in the work. And yes, when it comes to careers, who you know helps, however, the British system allows ample opportunities for people to climb the economic ladder. Furthermore, in today's environment, you're starting to see minorities help each other, for example, asians preferring to hire other asians.
The schools are beautiful. I like their design. My school felt like a jail haha
ah yes wearing the wrong clothes is comparable to fighting
Both my partner's children did miles worse than mine did in state school. It's not all black and white... His son didn't even finish secondary school.
The older I get, the more I understand private school. Children have access to more effective help and better extracurriculars (not just football). I am not too sure about the truth in this, but I do suppose my dyslexia may have been caught earlier if I went to one, instead of being diagnosed adulthood. Individual support for outliers is essential, and it’s something that state schools just don’t really have the means for still.
A lot of private schools won’t take students with learning difficulties.
Now, this is quite movie like 😬😄
This is an old documentary, but I'll watch it again
At first I read "skate" instead of "state" and was expecting some kickflips and 900s
Private schools are at such a landslide comparison with public/state schools and it’s upsetting because for individuals who want those high jobs find it more difficult to get to whereas private school individuals tend to have a easier ride due to them already being set at an advantage. Having to pay for private school also says a lot as it goes into the school and government however with state schools there’s often no funding for schools to reach the same potential as private school from the government even though there should be as it’s for the development of younger children who will go to have important jobs, equality should be the main goal many children should feel supported to be who they want to be and not feel as if they should slack off because they don’t get the support. Going to public schools myself there’s even a difference between the area that your school is in which heavily impacts things as different areas being neglected by the government. Just a cycle really
Right so I'm not sure you understand why private schools are often "fee paying". The reason that you have to pay to go to these schools is for the precise reason that they are not funded by the government at all and you can look that up on the .gov website (state schools are government funded where do you think the money comes from). I do a understand the whole "being set an advantage" argument but it's not as blatant as if you go to a private school you get better jobs instantly. The main advantages are the opportunities that they allow, for example choosing GCSE's can be hard as state schools might just not run some courses because not enough people want to do it while in private schools because of the fees even if 1 person takes that GCSE the school can still afford to pay the teacher to teach it. As well as that not everyone who goes to private schools are the super rich
and many will be on scholarships. I'm fully aware that private schools offer some better resources compared to state schools but at the end of the day if you had the wealth to give your child a better education wouldn't you send them to one?
@ of course I would send them to one but my argument is that it shouldn’t be so divided and the government should be funding state schools more for basic necessities, the division isn’t a small gap its a extremely big one along with social bias it doesn’t make the university,job placement and work experience journey any easier. I’m aware people are paying for the experience but it’s just unfortunate that there’s many people who would love to go to private school but genuinely can’t afford the privilege this isn’t argument between rich and poor it’s just putting the government at responsibility. There are fantastic state schools that do have great fundamentals and try really hard to support students but like I said this can vary extremely based on where you’re located, being set at what feels like a permanent set back is probably one of the biggest motivation for some or the biggest hurdle to overcome. Scholarships are viable but are extremely extremely competitive and hard to get, one thing that is great for students from less fortunate backgrounds are opportunities like Sutton trust or bursary’s for school supplies etc. I don’t blame rich people for wanting what’s best for their child when I have kids I will do everything I can for them to have the best education possible if I can afford it but if I can’t afford it I know it will be heart breaking as a parent to feel like you’re somehow “letting them down” having the nurturing responsibility of a parent you will always strive for what’s best but if I don’t have that option UNFORTUNATELY then I just hope my child will do their best at a state school and that’s okay but I know they’ll need extra help and support for the lack the school might be not being able to provide. The only negative I feel with private school is a lack of family life but thats all.
@@philippoulton-haselier3152 It has to do with philosophy. Public schools teach kids to obey. They destroy the kid's brains. This is what the socialists wanted. It was Kant that destroyed the Enlightenment. He destroyed reason. From Kant, you get Hegel then Engels and Marx. Public education in the UK was much better for teaching kids how to live a life because it taught kids philosophy. The government doesn't want us to learn philosophy. It doesn't want us to learn about how good capitalism is because if you learn about that you won't be a slave. That's why our communist government is at war with private schools. They understand that if you want to control the masses you need to teach them to obey.
@@Strawberrlla The clip proved the way that kids think in private vs public. The Private school kid thinks about his future. The public school kid thinks about now. He can't see that he can't rationally think about his life. This is what the socialists did to the education system. It didn't used to be like that. Kids learned philosophy. Kids learned how to improve themselves and think rationally. But the socialist attack on education was to create more slaves. As socialism is a neo-platonist. If you read platos republic it was to have the people at the top and the slaves working. Communists made it their mission to destroy the kids brains they looked at ww2 and saw that they could manipulate the masses. It's about power. It's why in 1960's we had kids take over universities that were similar to maoism. It was about power. Homeschooling is better than public education. The internet is better at teaching. Even ChatGPT is better.
@@philippoulton-haselier3152You miss the point.
You see where the issue is. The issue isn't private or state school. The issue is parents not putting discipline into their children. I'm just on the 15mins mark and when you look at the private child's schedule and the state school one. The private kids wake up 6:30, in school at 8:50 and not home till 5pm.
State school the kids wake up at 8am and finish at 3pm. The country needs to double down on parents being aware they can improve their children's lives by putting discipline in their children's lives.
Well it's the responsibility of the parent. I went to state school and had to compete against everyone, but my parents always taught me good manners, behavior and the fact I should try in my studies. I did try, but I'm nowhere near the level of a privately educated pupil. I got good grades in maths A eng A, science was a C. But compared to private school kids they get A* in almost all of their subjects because the teaching quality is much better and the fact they have a private tutor aswell.
Basically what I'm trying to say is, good manners and discipline isn't even enough, you have to be born smart and with the right tools for success.
What has what time a kid wakes up and finishes school go to do with discipline? They all arrive and finish the exact time they are meant to. If anything it should be the discipline installed with regards to installing good work ethic (i.e house chores, revising the work you did at school, organization and motivation should come from both parents and teachers)
@@Maksimszz I disagree with a child being born smart. I tutor maths and 15 years of teaching I've learnt when you really put discipline into children from early morning wake up, to studying outside of school hours and extra curricular activities from the age of 7 it makes a massive difference to them growing up smart.
Private schools only advantage is that there's less children in the class so the teachers can focus more on the children which state schools can't do but that doesn't give state school children that disadvantage if parents understand what discipline and how much structure is required for the child from young age in order for them to have intelligence. I can say this because I only take on students with dyslexia or poor backgrounds and charge way less but my only requirement is those parents adopt a tought discipline stance on their children's education. 95% of my students all got straight As in A levels and got into top top 5 unis and went to state school so I'm qualified enough to make that assesment. The 5% who didn't get that A* but got a B is because their parents didn't adopt that discipline from young age and didn't want to take on that extra responsibility so I dropped them before they got to year 9. They had other tutors of course who didn't care and just wanted the money.
@@SirArtsy that is what I said but yes even them waking up early is part of that mentally strong resilient discipline but everything else you said I agree
@tanveerUKhan15 you must be delusional if you think a person with an iq of 70 has a remote chance of getting into the top jobs, it's literally been statistically proven that if you are born with a higher iq, you tend to have better jobs and financial stability.
The reason why they got straight A's and got into the top unis is because they had a private tutor which is you and also the fact that they were born pretty smart.
fantastic documentary
18:12 Relate so much to this, but the downside to state school is when you have a teacher that isnt like this you fall through the cracks!
This is a state secondary school? Come and see a school in Liverpool or Manchester
Controversial opinion but i believe and have seen apart from a few outliers. Intelligence does have a positive correlation with income as shown by degree and higher earnings stats therefore private school students parents are generally more intelligent than the average joe and that is passed onto the kids. Multiply that by higher education quality from private you end up with a level and goce results like seen.
Brett knows that playing around at school is going to impact the rest of his life but he just can't help himself... This isn't a failure of teachers, it's a failure of the pupils themselves. You have to care enough to WANT to be successful to be successful, and Brett clearly doesn't.
This has already been done before it’s called the inbetweeners
You bumderrr
So true
I got into my school through scholarship but it’s a public school. I wasn’t in the area so I passed in flying colours with music, my specialty. The thing is my school is bad. There’s no help for me. I need help but I can’t ask anyone. I need a school councillor but it’s all other students.
that mrs ward already got on my nerves straight away
Having been in state school in the UK and state school in Switzerland. It's no wonder british schools have such a terrible reputation. THIS one is pretty good but many are so much worse than I even experienced. I had not only learn German but then catch up on maths I hadn't learnt.
From my observation the state schools is failing because the teachers are not understanding the level of knowledge their students have. To teach you need to come the level of understanding of your student and patiently repeat it until the students grasps and understands it.
State schools are fine if you are a middle/average student. Where they fall down is either side of that. Top or bottom students don’t get catered for and slip between the cracks.
BUT! Education starts and finishes at home. Safe, happy, stable family life will go a long way in a child’s life and eduction as well.
@@TheEnzedoneYep, exactly that
@TheEnzedone true that.. first educator in a child's life is their home. For those who fall through that cracks educators still need to involve them and motivate them to keep showing up and learn. When a students has no guidance, the schools have to guide them. The motto needs to be no pupil left behind
isnt this doc like a decade old?
im not sure if it counts as lower education when most of the students are foreigners who barely know the language; it's not that the education is bad, but that they don't have the fundamentals.
Also this UK public is far more sophisticated compared with americans.
You all should go to a different continent school. All this looks like a simple game. A tour. A picnic.
where is the part where the public kids go to the private school?
It's a second part
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The government is cutting budget badly , very soon to cut budget they might Close down some schools
Going to private school is the best investment
So how much do get per pupil ? That's the questions that should be asked
It is beyond my mind that the poor boy live in mess like that. There is no excuse for poor parents to choose to live in conditions like this. Pure laziness. I am myself from council estate, but paint my house every 2-3 years and bloody clean it. What is wrong with people?
believe it or not but some people are poor enough to have to choose between paint and food, food is always going to come first. Poverty is real, it’s not laziness.
@ being clean has nothing to do with poverty. Trust me I come from country that was once poor, but boy cleanliness is close to godliness.
I knew a family of 8. Mum had left, dad was left to look after 7 kids. He worked 12 hour days, sometimes longer, but still couldn’t afford to feed everyone and relied on food banks to top up what they could get so everyone could eat. He didn’t have the money let alone the time to keep the house looking immaculate.
All of the kids did their best to keep it tidy but they had 4 sharing a tiny room, 3 on mattresses on the floor of another room, dad slept on the sofa. The council house was tiny and with that many people living there it was impossible to keep it tidy purely because there was not enough space. They couldn’t afford paint. They couldn’t afford new furniture to replace the broken things. They couldn’t afford period products for the girls (the school provided these for them though, thankfully). They had nothing except each other.
They weren’t lazy, they did their damn best. The dad was a loving father who would give anything to keep his kids happy and safe. Maybe don’t assume that all families are the same, and maybe don’t insult people without knowing the details of what they’re going through :)
I'd love to see these posh kids, or even the ordinary Brit students, survive just a few hours in a High School in the USA, which is run on the principles of Survival of the Fittest.