Good video and I have done mine, made the mistake and pressed the reset button instead of restore but no big drama as long as you have a note of your settings, like the green screen IT seems to give better image on high zoom. One good improvement HIK could make is keep rangefinder box on screen with full zoom range. Good video, keep them coming.
Are HIK going to do another firmware update so that the holdover marker will also be on the reticle in the pip screen or the pip reticle shifts up/down to mimic the position of the holdover point, like the Arken /DNT Zulus and please get them to change the individual dot and cross reticles to be much smaller.
Thanks for the comment fingers crossed the zoom option will be retuning. we are in talks with HIK's R&D team trying to work out the bugs and get the best features for all users.
The thing that stopped me buying it the other day when I was at the sportsman Dorchester is that you have to zoom out in day time to get the ir splash in line with the little box on screen. If you try and range find zoomed in the little box is nowhere near the splash. Have a pard no problem on that. Picture great and everything else. Good scope needs more work.
@@jackdaw3160 usually this is resolved with a change of mounts or a 20MOA rail. Having the LRF splash more centralised is an easy fix with the right mount setup.
Well presented mate. Covered everything clearly. Looks like a lot of people got reset and restore mixed up, losing their zero and ballistic settings. Be handy if HIK release notes were detailed to reveal how to operate new firmware when major changes are made. Love the content of the new update. HIK seem to be listening to customer feedback. I'm looking foreword to using the 1:1 zoom multiplier, I find the continuous zoom useless (too slow to spin that dial at 0.1X increments) and 3.5/7/14/28x zoom multiplier has too big jump from 14 to 28x. 28x zoom is not much chop, not enough IR too small objective lens and sensor resolution of a potato. Maybe include all 3 options for zoom in the next update so people can choose what suits their hunting style1:1, continuous and multiplier. I'd really like to see HIK come out with another Alpex with higher base mag (like Pard and ATN currently do also). I never use 3.5X personally, starting with an objective at say 7X would be handy for what I typically need and the higher zoom levels derived digitally would be much better resolution for long range. I know IR comes into play at distance (grainy), but would be great to see the resolution we currently get at 14X extended to 28x with a higher base mag objective lens option. Extending the eye relief would be handy to consider using the product for higher calibers. The tweaks to ballistic calc are much appreciated as well as the changes made to the ballistic aim point style. A great product getting better and better with continuous development from customer feedback. Good stuff.
thanks for the comment fingers crossed the zoom option will be retuning. we are in talks with HIK;s R&D team trying to work out the bugs ands get the best features for all users.
My reticule disappeared after pressing restore!!😱Finally found I had to go back to zeroing and select profile reticule style etc and bingo it was back.❤ rate set back to normal!😮
Hmmm, I’m not sure, “Just get on with it” is the best consumer advice from what is one of the UK’s biggest stockists of night vision equipment, what ever happened to “The Customer is always right” ?
People asked for things to get changed/added and are now unhappy. Hik is a massive company trying to please everyone is a hard thing to do. Alpex is a fanatic scope always has been but needs to usable by everyone around the world in all conditions. So one disgruntled bloke in the Uk is not going to change things.
I love my alpex 4k lrf, I'm happy with it as it is, I don't need an update, but its good for those who want it, it's a shame the Chinese can't have firearms,as that way they could try it before they decide on what firmware to use.
Cheers Tim, im really liking the dot reticle in green with a match green reticle for the drop (just a smaller dot), its nice and simple, less clutter. The x1 step zoom isnt so bad once you get used to it. I would like if the zoom number was displayed when the OSD is turned off, like you i prefer the OSD off, but nice to see the zoom number somewhere.
Agree with you all the new features seem great. Just should have kept the choice on zoom if I use it on an air rifle I like the increment steps. On a centre fire the jumps. If they bring that back it’s perfect for me.
Tim great video as always. I am not clear that after the download you need to use the restore function. I emailed Hik and they stated you do not need to use the restore function, but just turn the scope off then on again. I have done this and everything works fine and I havn't lost my ballistic data.
Has this firmware upgrade been removed by Hikvision. It doesn't seem to be available on their website... the device is telling me previous version is latest. When I do a search on App it says 5.5.110 is available but it's showing as 0mb in size and then download keeps saying network error. Hot-spot all working fine
@TheNightVisionShow One question then. When new firmware installed. Do you have to redo all the profiles and zero the scope again after its installed??
Poor from HIKMicro not to announce this anywhere. I bought the alpex 4k last week and wasted a good two days emailing various people and companies to see why I couldn't download the 5.5.110 version and why it showed 0mb. This is the only place I have found the answer so well done and thank you for that, but why complete silence from KikMicro and their suppliers?
A quick question, would a heavy recoiling rifle have a detrimental effect on this scope and its internal tech? Also would a 20 MOA rail cause any problems with accuracy?
Thanks for this video really clears up some things i didn’t understand. Love most of the update but not loving the Jump stage zoom beings removed. I Really think hik need to put that zoom back to having the choice.
Thanks for the comment fingers crossed the zoom option will be retuning. we are in talks with HIK's R&D team trying to work out the bugs and get the best features for all users.
Great video! I have never done a restore after firmware update as followed instructions on my phone. It restarts and everything working fine. Should i really do a reset or restore after firmware update? Seems unnecessary from experience.
Thanks for the new heads up, great, BUT have I missed something ? that would be, the small white box that appears near the cross hairs, !!! what is it & what does it do, can it be discarded. Can you please help a new owner ?......Thanks.
Tim did you mention that the Bullet for Air gun user is GS? I’ve a sub 12 butbusing G1 as I’ve always done with the ATN and this. Should I switch to GS?
After the firmware upgrade, does it loose the zero settings stored? YES THEY DO ! I’ve done my Alpex 4 k and my Stellar 2, both lost zero on the two rifles they’ve always been spot on with, before the firmware update. Both scopes were dropped off at Elite Optical yesterday morning, on my way back from my Cornwall foxing weekend. Old firmware going back on both scopes, and forever rid of that clicky zoom….
Thanks for the comment fingers crossed the zoom option will be retuning. we are in talks and working with HIK's R&D team trying to work out the bugs and get the best features for all users.
Although I have just been playing around and realised that they have taken the zero distance out of the ballistic settings. How does it know what my zero is???
A Ballistic Coefficient (BC) is a number used to describe the drag on a bullet compared to some standard bullet. For example, a G1 BC is comparing the drag of that specific bullet to the G1 standard bullet GS is custom
Hi buddy , on my alpex if I switch rifle profiles ,I also have then Go to ballistics section and change that to the corresponding rifle profile , is this right? I recently updated the software too. Andy
I’m not a fan of the continuous zoom and don’t use it but also thought the .1 increasements were a bit much, the new firmware with 1.0 stop increasements would’ve been ideal for me if only I’d had the chance to update…. Shame the firmware update has been withdrawn, what suits 1 person doesn’t always suit the next🤷♂️
Not a good update really Still no balstic ret in pip Still Red cross hair centers on most of the options (not easy too see) Ive set 4 of these up now for folk including one for IR development that im using myself & the red centers are not that easy to see for any of us. The fast zoom could do with being slowed to 3.5 increments or as a 3rd option alongside the 7x coarse and the current 1x . That and image pro 2.0 updates ruined the condor so not a good week for updates from hik in general
@@ludicrouslumens975 having the hold over on the pip is just not needed as zoom range is that good. Red ret is not an issues there are plenty of options. Zoom is usable if you dial fast or slow
@findfixcc6 one of the biggest fails of the scope in my opinion period. Tha ability for a wide feild of view as well as access to the elusive rangefinder box & ability to take a longer shot would be very useful. The original zoom setup was not great either . Far to fine or too coarse. The jump from 14-28 was jarring in quality drop off. A 3rd option would be about ideal going up in 3.5s
@@ludicrouslumens975 have taken shots 300-400 and more with no issue on the FW 5.5.58 not pushed new 5.5.110 that far yet but I will. Never had a problem.
It for sure works Just not ideal 😕 Sure they have taken on board the issues as there is a lot of flack going their way currently The condor update has seriously degraded its performance with image pro2.
Alright Tim I'm just wondering why my zero was lost when I first got the 4k it was dialled in spot on then after a couple of weeks it said there's a update wich I did then I could not hit a barn door didn't realised that the zero was gone till I rang shop and he said that the 4k doesn't hold zero after update so I'm afraid to update the scope again. Thanks 🤙 🦊
Hola, comentarle si se han detectado casos en los que la puesta a tiro sufra variaciones. Me ha ocurrido el poner a cero con unos valores de “x” y de “y”, y al volver a disparar otro día ya se ha perdido el cero 🤷🏻♂️. Habiendo guardado los parámetros correctamente 🤷🏻♂️
NIce one mate, about time we got the fps up and running, also like the holdover ret options. One thing that bugs me is the short amount of time that the range is displayed, would be great if it stayed until a new range was taken as generally after editing the footage there's nothing there before or after the shot, which is a real shame now I'm getting more confident at longer ranges, case in point, I had two perfect shots with my FX Dynamic FAC .22 over the Bank Holiday at some pigeon, one at 143yd the other 175. ;)
Thanks Tim, I’m now ready to purchase my first Alpex LRF. Extremely informative
Glad it was helpful!
Great video Tim you’ve cleared up the reset for me 👍👍
Good video and I have done mine, made the mistake and pressed the reset button instead of restore but no big drama as long as you have a note of your settings, like the green screen IT seems to give better image on high zoom. One good improvement HIK could make is keep rangefinder box on screen with full zoom range. Good video, keep them coming.
@@allygt4 thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated
Are HIK going to do another firmware update so that the holdover marker will also be on the reticle in the pip screen or the pip reticle shifts up/down to mimic the position of the holdover point, like the Arken /DNT Zulus and please get them to change the individual dot and cross reticles to be much smaller.
Now that would be great as I noticed the hold over reticle doesn’t show in the Picture in Picture mode
This is what people have been asking for, not green screens!
I'm a fan of the four step zoom too; so I think I'll hold off on any updating; really pleased with my 4k as it is 👍
Thanks for the comment fingers crossed the zoom option will be retuning. we are in talks with HIK's R&D team trying to work out the bugs and get the best features for all users.
@@TheNightVisionShow It's a cracking bit of kit, wouldn't swap mine. Got when first released at the shooting show.
Thanks Tim for your video it was excellent.👏
cool thank you.
The thing that stopped me buying it the other day when I was at the sportsman Dorchester is that you have to zoom out in day time to get the ir splash in line with the little box on screen. If you try and range find zoomed in the little box is nowhere near the splash. Have a pard no problem on that. Picture great and everything else. Good scope needs more work.
@@jackdaw3160 usually this is resolved with a change of mounts or a 20MOA rail. Having the LRF splash more centralised is an easy fix with the right mount setup.
No nothing to do with rail or mounts.
Well presented mate. Covered everything clearly.
Looks like a lot of people got reset and restore mixed up, losing their zero and ballistic settings. Be handy if HIK release notes were detailed to reveal how to operate new firmware when major changes are made.
Love the content of the new update. HIK seem to be listening to customer feedback.
I'm looking foreword to using the 1:1 zoom multiplier, I find the continuous zoom useless (too slow to spin that dial at 0.1X increments) and 3.5/7/14/28x zoom multiplier has too big jump from 14 to 28x. 28x zoom is not much chop, not enough IR too small objective lens and sensor resolution of a potato. Maybe include all 3 options for zoom in the next update so people can choose what suits their hunting style1:1, continuous and multiplier.
I'd really like to see HIK come out with another Alpex with higher base mag (like Pard and ATN currently do also). I never use 3.5X personally, starting with an objective at say 7X would be handy for what I typically need and the higher zoom levels derived digitally would be much better resolution for long range. I know IR comes into play at distance (grainy), but would be great to see the resolution we currently get at 14X extended to 28x with a higher base mag objective lens option.
Extending the eye relief would be handy to consider using the product for higher calibers.
The tweaks to ballistic calc are much appreciated as well as the changes made to the ballistic aim point style.
A great product getting better and better with continuous development from customer feedback. Good stuff.
thanks for the comment fingers crossed the zoom option will be retuning. we are in talks with HIK;s R&D team trying to work out the bugs ands get the best features for all users.
My reticule disappeared after pressing restore!!😱Finally found I had to go back to zeroing and select profile reticule style etc and bingo it was back.❤ rate set back to normal!😮
hi yes just need to reactivate it
Hmmm, I’m not sure,
“Just get on with it” is the best consumer advice from what is one of the UK’s biggest stockists of night vision equipment, what ever happened to
“The Customer is always right” ?
Just get on with it. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
People asked for things to get changed/added and are now unhappy. Hik is a massive company trying to please everyone is a hard thing to do. Alpex is a fanatic scope always has been but needs to usable by everyone around the world in all conditions. So one disgruntled bloke in the Uk is not going to change things.
Who asked for zoom mode options to be taken away???
I love my alpex 4k lrf, I'm happy with it as it is, I don't need an update, but its good for those who want it, it's a shame the Chinese can't have firearms,as that way they could try it before they decide on what firmware to use.
@@stephenoshea1166 they try to cover every user around the world. Some like it some don’t. Just have to stick with it.
Cheers Tim, im really liking the dot reticle in green with a match green reticle for the drop (just a smaller dot), its nice and simple, less clutter. The x1 step zoom isnt so bad once you get used to it. I would like if the zoom number was displayed when the OSD is turned off, like you i prefer the OSD off, but nice to see the zoom number somewhere.
hi yes if you have the pip on the zoom should still be displayed in there for a short time.
@@TheNightVisionShow yes thats a welcome improvement. I'd like to see the same approach for the main screen
Agree with you all the new features seem great. Just should have kept the choice on zoom if I use it on an air rifle I like the increment steps. On a centre fire the jumps. If they bring that back it’s perfect for me.
Oh yeah great video as always. 🤦♂️
Tim great video as always. I am not clear that after the download you need to use the restore function. I emailed Hik and they stated you do not need to use the restore function, but just turn the scope off then on again. I have done this and everything works fine and I havn't lost my ballistic data.
always do a restore after a update to clear the old firmware. thats how we have always done it. and that how hik said to do so.
I'll be waiting to update mine when they sort the zoom out, increments is no good for me.
Thanks Tim very informative video great job
Glad you enjoyed it will be a follow up to this at some point.
Has this firmware upgrade been removed by Hikvision. It doesn't seem to be available on their website... the device is telling me previous version is latest. When I do a search on App it says 5.5.110 is available but it's showing as 0mb in size and then download keeps saying network error. Hot-spot all working fine
the same
@AngelIgnatov they must have removed it to tweak it maybe?!
5.5110 was removed as there was some issues. bug fixes are being done and will be released soon.
@TheNightVisionShow One question then. When new firmware installed. Do you have to redo all the profiles and zero the scope again after its installed??
Poor from HIKMicro not to announce this anywhere. I bought the alpex 4k last week and wasted a good two days emailing various people and companies to see why I couldn't download the 5.5.110 version and why it showed 0mb. This is the only place I have found the answer so well done and thank you for that, but why complete silence from KikMicro and their suppliers?
Thank you for the video.
A quick question, would a heavy recoiling rifle have a detrimental effect on this scope and its internal tech? Also would a 20 MOA rail cause any problems with accuracy?
Hi 20moa is fine I run mine on 2 rifles with 20moa rails on, lost of people use them on 270 30-06 etc
Thanks for this video really clears up some things i didn’t understand.
Love most of the update but not loving the Jump stage zoom beings removed.
I Really think hik need to put that zoom back to having the choice.
Thanks for the comment fingers crossed the zoom option will be retuning. we are in talks with HIK's R&D team trying to work out the bugs and get the best features for all users.
Great video!
I have never done a restore after firmware update as followed instructions on my phone.
It restarts and everything working fine.
Should i really do a reset or restore after firmware update?
Seems unnecessary from experience.
Was told from hik to restore. I always have done it mine has never missed a beat.
Thanks for the new heads up, great, BUT have I missed something ? that would be, the small white box that appears near the cross hairs, !!! what is it & what does it do, can it be discarded.
Can you please help a new owner ?......Thanks.
Is the update only for the lrf model?
thanks for the info just wonder im new with the alpex 4k how do i turn on zoom pip
press and hold the LRF button
@@TheNightVisionShow omg thank so much i got it to work now. also do i use that little white box or the cross hair for range find
@@z92holyelk You are very welcome!
Great vid Tim, some sound advice… 👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed it. thanks for the comment.
Does it make the audio better
@@theratbuster was there anything wrong ? Records the sound of a shot fine ?
Pardon?
Good video Tim 👍
Hi thanks for the comment glad you like it.
Tim did you mention that the Bullet for Air gun user is GS? I’ve a sub 12 butbusing G1 as I’ve always done with the ATN and this. Should I switch to GS?
If its working stick with it. I use g1 on mine. Just saying its there now if required.
we have found out that GS is for BB's stick to G1 or G7 and the information from the box.
@@TheNightVisionShow Tim Thanks for the update mate, much appreciated
After the firmware upgrade, does it loose the zero settings stored?
YES THEY DO !
I’ve done my Alpex 4 k and my Stellar 2, both lost zero on the two rifles they’ve always been spot on with, before the firmware update.
Both scopes were dropped off at Elite Optical yesterday morning, on my way back from my Cornwall foxing weekend.
Old firmware going back on both scopes, and forever rid of that clicky zoom….
Thanks for the comment fingers crossed the zoom option will be retuning. we are in talks and working with HIK's R&D team trying to work out the bugs and get the best features for all users.
Although I have just been playing around and realised that they have taken the zero distance out of the ballistic settings. How does it know what my zero is???
Takes it from your profile set up
HI
I received my Apex yesterday searching for the update - this version didn't come up mine currently V5.5.81? any tips? cheers
5.5.110 will be out in a few days. there was a few issues, so held it back.
Please expl the G1 Gs function.
thx Buddy
A Ballistic Coefficient (BC) is a number used to describe the drag on a bullet compared to some standard bullet. For example, a G1 BC is comparing the drag of that specific bullet to the G1 standard bullet GS is custom
Hi buddy , on my alpex if I switch rifle profiles ,I also have then Go to ballistics section and change that to the corresponding rifle profile , is this right?
I recently updated the software too.
Andy
Hi yes so I have big profile A is bc page 1 profile B bc page 2 and so on. just keeps it simple.
Does the Reset icon, restore the factory firmware for thise who dont like the latest firmware, ie loss of stepped zoom?
Thanks
@@stephenoshea1166 no can send the scope to Hik to be restored
I’m not a fan of the continuous zoom and don’t use it but also thought the .1 increasements were a bit much, the new firmware with 1.0 stop increasements would’ve been ideal for me if only I’d had the chance to update….
Shame the firmware update has been withdrawn, what suits 1 person doesn’t always suit the next🤷♂️
true. they need to cover a massive market of users but don't worry all is in hand.
Not a good update really
Still no balstic ret in pip
Still Red cross hair centers on most of the options (not easy too see)
Ive set 4 of these up now for folk including one for IR development that im using myself & the red centers are not that easy to see for any of us.
The fast zoom could do with being slowed to 3.5 increments or as a 3rd option alongside the 7x coarse and the current 1x .
That and image pro 2.0 updates ruined the condor so not a good week for updates from hik in general
@@ludicrouslumens975 having the hold over on the pip is just not needed as zoom range is that good.
Red ret is not an issues there are plenty of options.
Zoom is usable if you dial fast or slow
@findfixcc6 one of the biggest fails of the scope in my opinion period.
Tha ability for a wide feild of view as well as access to the elusive rangefinder box & ability to take a longer shot would be very useful.
The original zoom setup was not great either .
Far to fine or too coarse.
The jump from 14-28 was jarring in quality drop off.
A 3rd option would be about ideal going up in 3.5s
@@ludicrouslumens975 have taken shots 300-400 and more with no issue on the FW 5.5.58 not pushed new 5.5.110 that far yet but I will. Never had a problem.
It for sure works
Just not ideal 😕
Sure they have taken on board the issues as there is a lot of flack going their way currently
The condor update has seriously degraded its performance with image pro2.
Excellent thanks
Website says the latest version is v5.5.81 where is the 110 update can’t find it
we are waiting on HIK releasing the updated 5.5.110
I don’t have that upgrade. Presently running V5.5.81
App says that is the most up to date software. Any ideas how I upgrade to latest please
hi the new 5.5.110 will be out any day now.
@@TheNightVisionShow Thank you Tim, appreciated
Alright Tim I'm just wondering why my zero was lost when I first got the 4k it was dialled in spot on then after a couple of weeks it said there's a update wich I did then I could not hit a barn door didn't realised that the zero was gone till I rang shop and he said that the 4k doesn't hold zero after update so I'm afraid to update the scope again. Thanks 🤙 🦊
100% it will hold zero. It might not show the same x and y as it will have had a restore. But it will hold zero
Did you restore or reset? The angle measurements now feed into the BC whim presumably means you have to zero dead level.
@@ChrisHaigh-i5eRESTORE lol. Reset will wipe all data.
Hola, comentarle si se han detectado casos en los que la puesta a tiro sufra variaciones.
Me ha ocurrido el poner a cero con unos valores de “x” y de “y”, y al volver a disparar otro día ya se ha perdido el cero 🤷🏻♂️. Habiendo guardado los parámetros correctamente 🤷🏻♂️
hi, yes this is why it was removed.
@@TheNightVisionShowno entiendo bien… que es lo que eliminaron? La actualización? Yo sigo con la V5.5.81 🤷🏻♂️ y pierdo la puesta a cero…
Hi.
Is the GS profile better for use on Airgun??
Can use it for that I tend to use G1. Best to check manufacturers info.
I never understand why companies remove customisation options.
NIce one mate, about time we got the fps up and running, also like the holdover ret options. One thing that bugs me is the short amount of time that the range is displayed, would be great if it stayed until a new range was taken as generally after editing the footage there's nothing there before or after the shot, which is a real shame now I'm getting more confident at longer ranges, case in point, I had two perfect shots with my FX Dynamic FAC .22 over the Bank Holiday at some pigeon, one at 143yd the other 175. ;)
hi thanks for the comment. once its all set up right it really is some tool for the job.
When this update out as mine saying 5.5.81 and its up to date
thats the older version 5.5.110 was out but has been removed we are waiting on a replay from Hik.
@@TheNightVisionShow thought so
Gs for pellets ?
so GS is for BB's
Bună ziua cît costă o lunetă, și arma?
suprisingly Hikmicro removed this Firmware from their web pages ... they are back to previous version.... maybe containing bugs ?
we have seen this and are waiting on a update from Hik.
I heard some of the firm ware is not user friendly
Who do we complain to about the zoom?
It’ll get added back in on the next update. No point complaining.
its been pushed up the chain. we are working with HIK's R&D team to resolve all issues.
Why not start with the most obvious. How to update. Then explains the new menu !!!!!!
There are other videos for that
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