Fantastic Four (2005) Is GOOD, Actually
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Fantastic Four (2005) has been talked about as being one of "those" old 2000's movies that we should forget. A movie that wasn't good, and is a perfect example of how NOT to make a superhero movie. Well today I'm here to say that it's actually a good film, one that captures core ideas of the Fantastic Four, and is a classic every superhero fan should watch!
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IRC still feels like MHA…
Please make another zootopia film please I liked the fist one that u did
luv ur work bro cover the sequel please id love it if u did that
Not groundbreaking cinema? You're telling me our first introduction to Viktor is his statue and the movie ends with him becoming a statue isn't groundbreaking cinema?
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
Wow I never put that together until just now. Thank you.
That is....
FUCKING AWESOME!!
holy shit that's actually really smart
Wow I didn’t even think of that🤯
Chris Evans going from a pretty good Johnny Storm to Steve Rogers is unbelievable
Went from flaming asshole to America’s ass fr
Almost like actors are versatile
The Things costume in this is still absolutely STUNNING. Combining with all the actors just playing it so well the whole thing just feels fun. Not high art, but fun that has genuine heart, passion, and charm behind it. Whoever the actors that the MCU is gonna get are they're gonna have big shoes to fill.
Thank god Michael Chiklis fought for it to be an actual costume and not CGI. *stares at Reed's poorly aged CGI stretchiness*
It literally looks like orange foam
@@slicksquids Well to be fair, doing those effects would have been really damn complicated to do practically. CGI does have its place even if it's not as good as practical.
I wouldn't call it stunning, no need to be over dramatic
Its horrid
Fantastic Four was great, they got the powers right and consistent and the family part accurate, the only problem here is Dr. Doom.
Doom really should have been an arrogant but intelligent dictator instead of an angry businessman who wants Sue
The fact that even Stan Lee disliked Doom in that film speaks volumes. He was literally a poor man's Norman Osborn
Skript for Doom was bad but actor was good
@@cosmicdoggo9296 the costume was cool too ngl.
@@Eking-su3tr yup
Bro the FF defeat DD by burning him to a crisp, and then dosing his magma glowing body with water, turning him into a statue. They either thought it was gonna kill him, which they were all just totally fine with. Or they thought it was just gonna trap him in a statue like state, which is somehow even more fucked up. 😂 SO BRUTAL
They really said "Fuck Victor" 😭😭
@@Browntable seeing this as a kid it's like "wow that was so cool", then u get older and u realize how fucked up a lot of things are lol.
They kinda foreshadow it in the beginning of the movie lol
I never thought of it like that.
@@Browntable as a doom fan i thought julian captured his arrogance and his demeanour very well
Yes. Yes we want you to talk about the sequel. Please.
This video made me realize how much cooler the apartment scene in No Way Home would be if there were innocent bystanders running around.
Finally, someone is giving the fantastic four the respect it deserves. I love both of the tim story fantastic four films. They were both fun and enjoyable to watch. They were also the first marvel movies I ever watched, before Spider-Man and the mcu.
It was one of the first I watched as well
Both of those movies will always be two of my favorites. Love those movies, especially Rise of the Silver Surfer
Sure is more respect than what Marvel Studios is showing. I mean, look at my girl Kamala! They changed her to a Purple Lantern (or Night Light) because they found her powers she shares with Reed to be gross. And what happened to Reed in Multiverse of Madness? He barely used his stretchy powers and Wanda turned him into spaghetti. After Ms. Marvel and Multiverse of Madness, I don't have much hope for the MCU's Fantastic Four. They are scared of showing someone stretching.
Agreed. For me Spider-Man no way home was their last chance. They thankfully got it right, so I’m still on board. If they screw up Hugh Jackman Wolverine, then I’m done.
@@SeanWheeler100 I am sure they have big plans for Reed's stretch.
The bridge scene in the 1st Fantastic Four movie is so underrated, I'm specifically talking about the scene where the Thing tried to pick up his fiancée’s ring, that's still one of the most well done scene in comic book movies history, it's basically the Sandman transformation scene but better, at least that's a villain, and he did eventually picked up his daughter's photo, and he has the ability to turn back human form, the Thing never managed to pick it up, and he's a good guy who got turned into a monster due to an accident, and his fiancée abandoned him after he just saved the day
this is definitely on the "comfort films" list
When your a kid, you never pay much attention of other stuff like character development, dialogue, etc. you only pay attention to the action. But when you grow older, you learn to appreciate everything and that’s something awesome when you rewatch a favorite childhood movie and it feels like you are watching a brand new movie
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Yeah and this movie is one that when you rewatch as an adult you realize how weak and mid the movie is
@@captainjakemerica4579very true
Yes this sudden praise for these movies is weird I remember on release this movie got a mid-level reception and it's sequel amazes me when some call it a classic or try to say that the casting was RDJ Tony Stark level perfect when quite frankly I don't see any of these castings being that spot on quite sure in the superhero movie history book this one will barely be a footnote along with its sequel the notable superhero movies of this decade are going to be Batman Begins The Dark Knight Iron Man the first two Sam Raimi Spider-Man and the first two X-Men movies
@@captainjakemerica4579 once movies get old enough to be nostalgic people start pretending they didn't suck. People are now saying that the 2003 Hulk movie wasn't shit, or the Ghost Rider movie.
The casting IS perfect. You got Henry from Forever, the main dude from No Ordinary Family, the dude from Opposite Sex, and Cole from Charmed! LEGENDARY!
don't forget the woman from dark angel!
Your point about the ending reminds me of ghostbusters. “Don’t cross the streams” and then later on “cross the streams!”
FINALLY, someone gets it! Every argument I heard against this movie was like "I get why you didn't like that, but it didn't ruin the whole thing for me" You know?
Tbh I never minded this film, was good fun and harmless
Agreed!
Wait,It took 17 years to appreciate this film? I've loved this movie as this is my childhood. Early Marvel movies. Good thing this movie is being appreciated now. Better late than ever!!
Rewatched this like 3 weeks ago and I was surprised how great it actually was.
Some might say.... fantastic
Yeah no this movie is not great there's a reason why most of the cast barely acknowledges it and why Chris Evans went on to play Captain America
I remember having so much fun watching the F4 duology with my family. I miss when the only marvel films back then were Raimi, x men, and F4. What a time
These movies,(as well as phase one of the MCU) always felt more genuine. The new stuff is too self aware, wink at the camera, crap. Also, all mcu costumes are over designed and look exactly the same as each other.
Yeah, it was a fun time for sure.
We're really starting to appreciate this movie more.
It wasn't groundbreaking like Batman '89, X-Men or Spider-Man; but we've gotten to the point now where we're looking at Fantastic Four and saying... "Why *did* we actually hate this one??"
Honestly I never knew what was the problem with these flims. Yes they aren’t perfect but they aren’t horrible
The first 2 fantastic four movies are fucking good,Ioan gruffudd,Micheal whatever his name is and Chris Evans are the perfect casting choice. The first movie is perfect and no one will change my mind
exactly
His name is Michael Chiklis
Thanks for featuring my (old) art, and it means a lot that after so long you still have it.
I got a folder of all the art I've gotten! I love it to bits it means so much to me that people have made art of stuff I've created and care about
I will say the early 2000s fantastic Four duo-logy are the best underrated movies in showing a superhero drama which is kinda missed now a days in the MCU
This movie was a certified hood classic in my childhood. Thanks for giving this goodie the praise it deserves 😤😤
It’s an enjoyable movie, I don’t understand why some people like to hate on it. Cast is great, powers are cool, storytelling is pretty good for the most part, funny moments, and they nailed the family team dynamic of the F4 pretty well. Yeah it’s not a masterpiece superhero movie, but it is a solid superhero movie.
Quite simple they messed up Dr Doom one of the best villains in Marvel history big time along with Galactus there's a reason why the cast is barely acknowledged this movie and why Chris Evans moved on to play Captain America
@@captainjakemerica4579To be fair, Galactus was only in the second movie
@@matityaloran9157 yeah and absolutely buttfucked
I can't believe that Chris Evans can pull of captain America and johnny storm who both are completely different characters it's honestly super impressivd
If this was the same cast, same story and if it was set in the 60s, it would've even better. But I actually like this movie. I like that The Thing is an actual costume, and not terrible early 2000s cgi. The cast is really good. I like that this movie is getting the attention it deserves.
Didn't Michael Chiklis have to seriously work to convince the filmmakers to give him a suit instead of make him a CGI Thing? I have to say, I really appreciate his dedication, he made the right call.
@@jaschabull2365 yes he did. He wanted to make it look real, hes a big F4 fan and wanted it to look real to add to bens pain, Chiklas regretted it, but it absolutely worked for the 2 movies. Stan lee said it was his all time favorite casting in anything Marvel.
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Ahh man, didn't know it came with a cost to Mr. Chiklas. Just makes him all the more the hero to the movie.
@@jaschabull2365 yea he enjoyed being in those movies, but regretted the heavy foam suit. But boy is way more effective than a all cgi mocap suit.
This movie was fairly unique at the time as one of the first (of. If the first) superhero films where the heroes had no secret identities. And you are right that Michael Chikliks is the glue that holds everything together. I could honestly watch an entire film of him just trying to navigate his life without any action taking place.
In fact, I’d say the action was the movie’s undoing. It didn’t really mesh with the film’s attempt at being more character driven resulting in an awkward finale where the four are able to make up because Doom tried to kill them.
But at the same time, there is a certain charm to the cast to go with the uniqueness of the narrative. Also, Kerry Washington is always a plus.
I was an adult when this movie came out and it spent more time in my DVD player than anything else... I loved the "family" element of the story ... The dialogue was a little rough sometimes but overall it was a fun film.
The Fantastic Four to me has gotten a "bad rep" because of these films, thank you for shining some light on why there actually misunderstood.
I was seriously hoping to see Ioan Gruffudd's Mr. Fantastic cameo in Multiverse of Madness over popular fan casting # 61.
me too he was great at reed richards
I enjoyed that one as well. It really was perfect casting. And the fact that The Thing was the actor in a suit and not CG made it so much better.
I read somewhere that they were originally going to do CGI for the Thing, but Michael Chiklis pushed for them to do a suit, even though it would take more time and require him to sit in a makeup chair for hours. Apparently Chiklis was a big fan of the comics and thought the Thing needed to be as practical as possible to give Ben's dilemma more weight (the more real he looked, the more empathetic the audience would be). He even went as far as to wear the costume's dentures home, just so he could get used to them and find the best way to say his lines. Dude went above and beyond for this role, and that makes it so great.
Great video.
As someone who also grew up watching this film, man do the emotional moments with Ben Grimm still hit hard.
I think Stan Lee said that Michael Chiklis' portrayal was his favourite superhero portrayal ever, and I can completely see why.
Also Chiklis urged the filmmakers for a full practical Thing, which I think really helps him with the emotional acting.
One of the most awkward parts of nwh that kinda take me outta the movie was when Peter starts live streaming the people of new york are literally just walking by ignoring him. It would’ve been nice to see Flash, Betty, the teachers or just people react to Peter’s live stream.
wym awkward?
i can see as wasted potential
I didn't really think about it tbh and I just rewatched the movie
The part where Reed gets all geeked out about the suits is hilarious always has been hahaha
I just realised that the villains actor has the same last name as me and I’m thrilled
It's about time someone gives this movie some love. I would watch Spider-Man 2, Fantastic Four, and Harry Potter on repeat as a kid and I just rewatched Fantastic Four somewhat recently and while I can admit it's definitely not a good movie, I still really enjoyed it. Loved the video!
I always really liked Doctor Doom in this movie
And if they don’t make Hank from Breaking Bad the MCU version of The Thing I will be severely disappointed. That man is destined to become a mineral himself.
I love a Weekly Planet cameo lol. I genuinely love this movie. I love the ideas in it and still love the story. Finally someone else saying it’s actually good
Absolutely brilliant video. I loved the part where you masterfully analysed the scene where Johnny says "Flame on" for the first time.
Finally someone who appreciates this movie, all my life I have spoke up for this movie and everyone just laughs at me everytime but its legit good
17:50 I love the Fantastic Four movie theme as well it's just as good as Danny Elfmans score for Spider-Man and hulk
One could even say, it's fantastic.
Great video! They absolutely NAILED Doom’s design in this film, just wish he was more comic accurate. Also I’d love to see you talk about the sequel - they butchered Galactus so bad, but Silver Surfer was pretty cool
Just realized something after rewatching the movie. There’s that little scene with Ben reacting to the rubber reflex hammer, which doesn’t affect him, but when they use an actual hammer, he responds. It’s just a little physical comedy, right? Probably, but It’s much sadder in my opinion. The fact that he could only feel something that big means he probably can’t feel physical touch, like someone hugging him or holding his hand or any kind of loving touch. Ok now I’m sad 😞. Great video though, I really like the movie too!
I’d say they nailed the personalities and relationships of the characters aside from Doom and a little bit of Sue. If they utilized Doom’s background, I’d say the story would’ve been way better than it already was. Thinking about it, what really bogged these films down were their mediocre antagonists, aside from Silver Surfer who was very multilayered and interesting. But these films definitely deserve more appreciation for how good they actually are.
5:21 mr Sunday movies crossover my life is now complete
In my house we refer to this Fantastic Four as "the good version". I never understood why people didn't like it, but at least we can all agree it's better than "Fant4stic".
I would never defend the Tim Story movies as GREAT but I think they're well-cast and fun products of their time. Michael Chiklis in particular is really good as Ben and the Thing costume they made still holds up.
I agree with pretty much everything said here, I have always loved this movie for how they dealt with Ben in particular... This movie may be overly silly at times and maybe a bit TOO campy but damn it has some solid ass charm that a lot of people seem to overlook. Great video as always.
My favorite part about getting older is enjoying these movies that used to “suck” so much
I thought you were going to say this is the movie the MCU used as a blueprint, so I’m gong to say it. It’s just really clear, to me, when it comes to the characters and humor
I don’t understand why everyone dislike this movies because I remember watched it when I was younger and loved it… It’s just great
I loved both the FF films when I was young and still do. I even bought the PC version of the first film's tie-in game back in the day. They're definitely average films, but this video perfectly highlights how much they got right. Fantastic video!
As a kid I used to wonder why people used to complain that the two fantastic four movies were too “cheesy” when everyone complimented the Raimi Spider Man Movies for that exact same reason. Sure I don’t think the fantastic four movies were even on par with that trilogy but still I don’t get why the cheesiness was a problem when it helped define one of the most beloved superhero trilogy of all time.
I definitely want a video on the rise of the silver surfer
Just for that human torch and silver surfer chase scene still holds up, I think
Awesome video, completely agree with you! I also watched this movie, last week, after seeing Doctor... even stranger.
Whenever browntable makes a video on why a movie is actually good despite what other ppl say, I’m gonna use this in an argument if some says this movie is bad.
Can you do a video on the 2003 Ang Lee hulk movie? THAT WOULD BE FCKN AWESOME!!!!!
Bro 2003 Hulk is underrated AS FUCK
@@claytonharrell9046 I know right?! And it kinda triggers me when people say “Oh this hulk is the worst out of the 3!” This is my CHILDHOOD!!!!! I would die for a MCU that had tobey 🕷, and ang lee’s hulk, and everyone else that was the 2000 marvel heroes. That would be a GREAT avengers universe
It's Clobbering time, same vibe as It's Morbin Time.
From someone with catchphrase "Flame on!", To someone with catchphrase "Language!", Chris Evans has come long way as a hero
You should totally cover Rise Of Silver Surfer!
So great that you did a video on this film. It's always been great & I like parts of the sequel too. They're fun movies.
THANK YOU. I'm glad I'm not the only one to see it
To me this is the real fantastic 4. They did not need to reboot it but it is what it is.
cant belive ppl hated this movie :| its like one of the few superhero movies in that era that actually aged well
Completely agree with you about the costumes! OG fantastic four costumes are top tier. Glad I’m not the only one who thinks so.
I love your videos man keep it up, your humor scrapes off the depression mildew on my brain. Also I demand a part two for silver surfer
3:32 You wild bruh. Top-tier editing
I absolutely love the chaotic vibe you bring. Keep it up
Glad you mentioned the music in this because it’s a really good theme
This movie deserves more appreciation
I love the way you break down movies it’s always great and has so much passion and creativity
I'm legitimately upset they didn't get 2005 Mister Fantastic for MoM. John Krasinski is an alright actor and all, but he just didn't sell Mister Fantastic for me.
as someone who dad's a diehard f4 fan ioan got reed richards perfectly ,hes a well meaning man , but hes too much into his work and tries to hard to "stretch" himself to far ....in the movie like in the comics when they all get their powers he completely ignores everyone to try to find a cure ...i did like john as reed hopefully they use a similar format from ioan's reed richards
and hes right reed is into his research moreso and can be oblivious to everything around him
Yeah no Sam Raimi made the right call with John Krasinski
Gotta love the Mr Sunday Movies reference at 5:23
great video. upon rewatching recently, the part where Ben says that he would give anything to be invisible hit so hard, and Chris Evans as Johnny was top tier
Fun fact: In an interview Jared Leto confirmed to his fans that the line his character Morbius says in the movie Morbius, the famous "It's Morbin Time", was inspired by the phrase from The Thing, It's cobberin time, and let him know to Morbius fans that Morbius' most iconic phrase in the Morbius movie wouldn't be possible without the thing.
5:24 The Goat and Nick Mason 😂
Please do the second one, I loved your commentary on this one.
These two Fantastic Four movies were apart of my childhood that helped me get into Marvel and introduced me to the F4. Yes they are not perfect and a bit cheap and silly but I don’t understand when people say they are terrible, they aren’t great but not bad. Chris Evans, Ioan Gruffudd, Michael Chicklis were great it’s just the character writing wasn’t on par with what the characters should be. Jessica Alba was a pathetic Sue Storm though and they wrote her so so weakly. I actually liked Julian McMahon’s Dr Doom even though it is nowhere near what Doom is meant to be, he acted pretty villainous. Also the best thing about these movies is John Ottman’s score. I’m so hyped for the MCU F4, I still can’t believe they casted John Krasinski!
Fantastic Four (2005) is actually good
Me: Always has been
Johnny Storm was Tony Stark of that time.
Hell no quite sure if my memory doesn't fail me upon release Chris Evans wasn't even praise that heavily he's significantly better as Captain America no one in this movie is an RDJ level perfect casting
It does have so much substance, The Thing's Crisis is so good.
Great video, Would love a video on the sequel
dude this reminded me of my childhood istg it was awesome keep doing what you do and you just got a new subscriber.
Many people grew up on the Raimiverse of Spider-Man films. THIS was my first superhero film, and it’s nice to see it gain some attention.
The Raimiverse were my first superhero movies and introduction to Marvel
Every day this Channel gets closer to being like Jobby the Hong and I love it
This is a video I never thought I needed but... Please do Rise of the Silver Surfer. Like this unlocked so many memories and I used to literally binge these as a kid. Like why can I remember the wedding scene so vividly!?
Even 2012 Black Widow has very tight suit, it took time for the world to change from that.
This movie actually does understand a lot about the Fantastic Four. Even if they made Doom an extremely flat character.
Also Sue Storm.
Great video! I always had an appreciation for these movies always considered them guilty pleasures😅🤙
THIS VIDEO IS HILARIOUS. YOU GOT A NEW SUB DUDE
Silver surfer and thing are probably the most comic accurate characters in cbm imo
I hated how he could've stopped Galactus from the start.
As a kid, I always wanted this F4 meeting the fox x-men.
CAME after the Wandavision and MCU hype video, I must say I would enjoy your entertaining and funny content and analysis.
Mr. Sunday Movies is my favorite channel.
Great vid you should do the second one
I remember wayching the original roger cormon fantastic four movie. The one that was never released. I remember falling in love with it because its so comic booky. And the special effects are actually really great looking. It was super low budget, but the way they did Mr. Fantastics stretchy powers is incredibly impressive for the time it was made.
That movoe is always going to have a special place in my heart.
I really enjoyed this video and I hope you get more recognition
This is great so far, can’t wait to finish it. When will we get Tall Girl 2 pt 2?
I did NOT expect a Mr Sunday Movies reference thrown in this vid but fuck yeah love those James and Maso