I had no idea about Shawn. This is terrible. I've been a long time subscriber of his and was wondering where the heck his videos were. Oh man, rest in peace Shawn. I guess we were never really let into that part of his life, so we had no idea.
Thanks you proved my point about gaining mileage at the cost of long engine life. And that’s for gas and diesel. And I also agree if a aftermarket oil filter comes apart your warranty is gone but if the OEM comes a part they have to honor the warranty. Keep the vids coming. And hope your doing well now that your out on your own.....
Quick update at 49,000 miles my Turbo failed, the service electric throttle cable came on. The dealer originally thought the engine failed but later said it was the turbo. It was a two week delay. Not even a week later the Service DEF light appears. I am starting to feel this truck is going to be a problem. Might take it to another dealer, seems the dealer struggled through fixing it. Warranty covered it with the $100 detuctible.
I was at the dealer and asked the salesman if he can check on a 2017 Ecodiesel. The typical sales approach of asking about deposit and such. I tell the salesman that I bought a Ecodiesel from this dealer and looking for a trade-in. He leaves the desk to talk to his manager. The salesman returned and said "we don't have any Ecodiesel in stock. I have plenty of Rams in stock without the diesel engine. "I talked to another salesman asked about what happened to the Ecodiesel Ram. He said"Sorry, the EPA has stopped any sales of the Ecodiesel." Now it's a waiting game.
So, I guess the take-away here is that we should ignore our dealer provided owner's manual advice advising 10.5 quarts of 5W-20 and switch to 5W-40 Rotella T-6 and 10.0 quarts? Interesting. I bought my 2015 recently (used, of course) and I have no idea what it's been running prior to now. I guess I'll see if the engine holds together or if it begins to come apart.
Jumping ahead to 2021 here, are you still recommending the OEM filter? What are your thoughts on an oil catch can for the ecodiesel? Thanks for all the SUPER informative videos for these ecodiesel engines!
I have 38,000 miles on my 2015 Ecodiesel. I brought my truck to the dealer back in August for an oil change. . I ask the guy to reset my oil life monitor since the service tech forgot to do it. I noticed on the service invoice that an update was done. The guy said it was a system update for the vehicle. I guess it was the oil. My rear tires are worn , dealer never rotated tires. It's good I found this video. Can't trust these dealers to perform work as they seem inundated every time I go.
Dude you rock. Sorry to hear about sean. Love my 2016 Laramie ecodiesel. I do my own oil changes and got this update that the oil changed. I change my first oil at 3500 and now it will be 11000 with Rotella. Rams rock.
Can you explain how Shawn by-passed his 8HP70 coolant heat exchanger? This was a very important mod he did but did not video it. These 195-198*F transmission temps are ridiculous! My ram did not come with the factory HD transmission cooler which incorporates a 160*F by-pass I think that is plumbed into the transmission lines so their temps never get over 185*F. Mine on the other hand rise to 210*F while towing a small 3Klb Inclosed trailer. I did install a very large tru-cool transmission cooler downstream of the factory cooler (in the radiator) as well as a Derele remote spin-on transmission filter kit without thinking about this by-pass. My temps never changed due too this heat exchanger is constantly heating my trans fluid with 204*F coolant. Which is crazy. I need to either by-pass the coolant with a inline temp controlled by-pass or just totally by-pass the exchanger all together. Shawn and I talked about this a time or 2 but he never got around to a video on how he did it. I have since drained and switched to Red Line D6 fluid to help handle the heat. Any thing you can add would be appreciated!
Hey.. Say you owned an F-150 with the 3.0 diesel... what oil would you put in it? The manual says a 5W30 FA-4 oil meeting their new WSS-M2C214-B1 spec, but it also states for "severe service" you shoud use a 5W40 CK-4 oil. Given what we saw with the ram, would you go straight for the 5W40? I feel the FA-4 oil is to meet fuel economy numbers only. Thanks!
Does this go for 2017 as well? i got one 6 months ago and am interested in doing the maintenance that I am comfortable with. Dealers are a rip and half the time they are no better than a walmart when it comes to techs.
You don't have to but in general as you have seen on the 2016 models if there is a change in weight there are updates that go along with that for the oil life monitor and general operating parameters. I recently had my 2015 into the dealer and sure enough they updated the pcm.
Why would a gas engine with only 10K miles need serious engine work? Service history shows the truck was well taken care of. Oil changed done at less thank 3K miles. Looking it over it was a well taken care of truck. Not abused. I was the poor sucker that purchased the truck used only to find out just before I got it there was major work done. Pistons. Rings. connecting rods. Bearings. I put almost 6k on it then get a ticking lifter. When I took it in for that I found out about the other work before.
Good stuff! My last 2 oil changes I paid the dealer $150 each. I've always changed my own oil my entire life so this is a good start! Any issues with warranty if you start changing the oil yourself?
The fact that you changed oil yourself vs. a Mopar tech. No as long as you used correct oil and filter (save those receipts) plus you followed correct procedures.
Not true on the oil filter (OEM vs aftermarket). I can't remember the law name, but unless the OEM part is provided for FREE....aftermarket does not void your warrantee.
+Michael Doerner yes I know of the law you are talking about. Believe me working at a Ford dealership for 10 years tells a different story that law means squat. The regional Rep and dealer will void the warranty in a second and most won't take the issue to court over the law you are talking of because lawyer and court fees far outweigh the cost of the repair then you are stuck with a high repair bill or junk the truck over $5 difference in filter cost it's just not worth it.
Can a Dealer Void My Warranty? Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act Explained
Whether you’re shopping for a replacement exhaust system or in the market for an aftermarket cold air intake-and you’re worried about your vehicle’s warranty-have no fear. AutoAnything is here to give you the 4-1-1 on the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, which protects consumers from being wrongfully denied warranty coverage when they customize their rides. If you’re an auto enthusiast, chances are, you’ve heard the myth that modding your ride with aftermarket accessories automatically cancels your warranty. While this may be true in certain circumstances, you shouldn’t take this as an absolute. According to the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, a vehicle manufacturer cannot void the warranty of your vehicle due to an aftermarket part unless they can prove that the aftermarket part was the cause of or contributed to the failure of the vehicle (15 U.S.C. 2302 (C)). This means that a vehicle's warranty cannot be "voided;" the dealer can only deny a claim if the stock part failed due to damage or unreasonable use.
I know I am a little late on this but the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act 100% protects you on this. I worked for an aftermarket parts supplier for 12 yrs. We sold all brands of filters some better than others. We also sold AC Delco, Mopar and Motorcraft. I personally run Wix Filters on my vehicles. You don't have to worry about going to court, I have seen first hand this happen and the customers call Wix or K and N and their lawyers handle it for you. I had one customer who had a Wix filter a dealership said caused a problem and they flew their engineers down to take their own samples and the dealership changed their tune quick. Don't be bullied by dealerships. It's not about price to me, it is about quality. None of the OE truck builders make their own filters anymore. I know for a fact that Wix makes filters for multiple OEMs. I have also seen behind the scenes that some of these filters are not up to the same standards as the premium brand. Sorry for the rant but I cant stand when misinformation is out there about this. BTW I love your channel :)
Ram EcoDiesel Source, and the law doesn’t matter because if you look at the arbitration contract assigned to the vehicle, you are forced to arbitration anyway and the warranty claim WILL be denied. Use Mopar filters until the warranty is out.
Any idea when the updated calibrations might come down the pipeline for the 2014-2015 model years? I have a 2015 and need to do an oil change. I've been using Mobil 1 ESP 5W-30, but I'm debating switching to Mobil Delvac 1 ESP 5W-40. My only hesitation is the lower NOACK of the ESP 5W-30 and lower ash % of the ESP 5W-30. Since I don't tow (only long highway and light off-road, almost no city driving), I don't know how much benefit I'd actually see from the CJ-4 5W-40. I suspect my driving patterns lend themselves to the ESP 5W-30. Thoughts? Also, any idea if the current EPA testing hold-ups are going to change this? I know nobody knows for sure, so I'm just asking for an opinion.
I am waiting on a long term review on your Ecodiesel, has to have been at least a year since purchasing? How many miles on it now? Any major repairs under/out of warranty? Fuel mileage? Still happy with the vehicle? ...and the biggest question. Would you buy another?
yes yes and yes very happy with it expect a video soon on this subject along with a separate video on problems I have had with the truck that required service.
Bought mine new off the floor in 2014. Kept maintenance up to the T. Catastrophic engine failure at 135000. No rebuild kits are available. So i have a 40000 paper weight in the driveway. Dont buy it
Ram EcoDiesel Source Have you brought the Ram in for the latest recall? The AEM software update to comply with the EPA Class Action Lawsuit has caused many complaints for a coolant leak that may cause an engine fire. My truck is waiting at the dealer, FCA has no EGR parts and isn’t able to fix the problem.
What engine oil should I use for my 2014 RAM ProMaster 2500 high roof ecodiesel? I just recently bought it and I'm new to diesel engine. I'm so confused on witch oil to use. Help me out thanks in advance.
Although I know very little about automobiles I own a 2014 Ram Promaster Ecodiesel van. RamTrucks maintenance procedures per webpage is still recommending 5W-30 low ash. I used the the T6 last oil change and plan to do so with the next oil change. Is this all right or should I go back to the 5W-30?
Not true about the warranty at all. Check the magnuson moss act. Unless your parts are provided for free from the manufacturer they cannot void your warranty for use of aftermarket.
See comment below- "yes I know of the law you are talking about. Believe me working at a Ford dealership for 10 years tells a different story that law means squat. The regional Rep and dealer will void the warranty in a second and most won't take the issue to court over the law you are talking of because lawyer and court fees far outweigh the cost of the repair then you are stuck with a high repair bill or junk the truck over $5 difference in filter cost it's just not worth it"
Ram EcoDiesel Source Trust me I've been down this road with KTM about using "their motorex brand oil and KTM oil filter" as soon as I mentioned the magnuson moss act and seeking a lawyer they immediately backed down because they had no leg to stand on. Dealerships like you mentioned just take advantage of the I'll advised and lack of knowledge that 99% of consumers have. Knowledge is power and always will be.
My ecodiesel has been at the dealer for over three months due to an oil leak at the timing cover,block and head on the drivers side, has anyone had this problem?
I have a 2016 with 45k miles on it. when having the 20k mile oil change the dealer flashed the ppm and put in the 5w40. Before the flash and oil change I was getting 26 to 28 MPG and now for the last 25K I only get 18 to 20 MPG.
Ken Costello I have that very same issue with my 2015. I used to be so proud of the power and MPH. Now I’m getting about 19.5 city and highway. That’s is the MPH I was getting hauling my boat when my mileage was as advertised. They done my 1st 6 oil changes for free. I wonder if they changed oil type, and flashed the PCM and didn’t notify me of the change. I am fixing to do my 1st oil change myself. I have already bought all the hot shot diesel products to go through my fuel, and oil. Are you sure this was why your MPH changed? Or have you figured anything else out?
I have a 2015 with 46k. Last oil change the dealer used the 5-40. Before my mixed average was 27mpg. Now it’s 25. Wonder why your change was so drastic?
Hi I just bought a new 19 ecodiesel. What oil comes in it from the factory? Is it full snythedic? What should I put in, i live in Canada and have some 40- Celsius cold starts in January. Also do these trucks have a hi idle mode on the cruise control? Thanks for the help Just subscribed and liked
Trade it in. Get a 2500 or better. I bought ED in 2014. Kept up with the maintenance and more. 135000 miles and had catastrophic engine failure. There is no rebuild kits for the engine. The lowest cost for replacing it is 12000 dollars. So basically i have a 40,000 paper weight sitting in the drive way.
I didn't bother with the flash when I switched to Amsoil Signature Series 5W-40. It was apparently for calibrating the "oil pressure" display, which was meaningless anyway. Still have to change every 10K miles. In fact, I just passed 29,200 miles and every start shows the message, "Change Oil Soon."
There are two separate and entirely different diesels to be had in Ram trucks. The 2500 & 3500 series takes the much larger and robust (at the risk of understatement) Cummins Diesel and the 1500 series takes the Italian MV 3 litre v-6 named the, “Ecodiesel”. Refer to Ram’s various brochures and advertisements to find out the differences.
Sorry to hear about shaun, If i remember correctly, in your previous oil change video you recommended changing the oil every 5K miles. Do you still feel this way even though the trucks oil change sensorineural system seems to be about twice that at 10K miles. and is there a difference in oil breakdown on a vehicle that does 10K miles in 2 months versus 10K miles over 10 months? I am currently hitting about 4K miles per month on my ecodiesel, so to do an oil change every 5 to 6 weeks seems a bit much. what are your thoughts?
I used it on my first oil change. It's been about 8500 miles since that change. I only saved about $10 on it over the Penzoil. Can't say I've had the most piece of mind about it. Cold starts are rougher. I certainly won't use Kendall again and wouldn't recommend it for anyone else in this application.
Ram EcoDiesel Source ok thanks i will check with them because im currently using mobil 1 esp formula since they say it has to be low ash oil like the penzoil ..but i like mobile 1 better not penzoil .
Well, FCA found out that Mobil1 ESP was one of the reason of high engine failure rate. In July 2016, they ordered all the dealers to drain Mobil1 ESP and fill it with Shell Rotella T6 5W40 in all unsold Jeep and RAM Eco Diesel. FCA also ordered all dealers to us T6 5W40 on any Eco Diesel that will come for service from that point on.
I have been using mobil 1 for a long time. This video, as well as the manual, state we should use the Shell Rotella T6 Full Synthetic Heavy Duty Engine Oil 5W-40 and no other, however, the Mobil 1 website states it's Mobil Delvac 1™ ESP 5W-40.. Is their any reason why the Mobil one won't work as well as the Rotella?
filter is still $70 rediculouse price bought one the other day and that euro oil was terrible i changed my trucks oil after only 7500 miles and it was ultra black
I disagree. 7500K is not that hard on Rotella t-6 especially if you use a quality filter like a Mann or Wix XP. Rotella T-6is a full synthetic used for big rigs.
You are ABSOLUTELY wrong and giving false information, they CANNOT void your warranty for not using OEM filters. It is called the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act. Of 1975. I’ve been an Harley Mechanic for over 15 years and have shared this to dispel confusion about having to use Harley oil or parts. If you’re gonna tell people that, make sure you know the laws. Look up the act yourself.
You are absolutely right about the act, but I speak from the real world experience working at a dealership on the automotive side and also helping with the admin side of things. In a dealership all it takes is a phone call from the service manager to the regional rep with documentation why they believe the warranty should be voided for it to get voided. At that point you are fighting a well funded team of lawyers and engineering experts from the auto manufacturer in court. So I ask is it worth it to use the parts you think are better because you bought into the marketing hype of an aftermarket company or just use the right stuff and never have a problem and if you did you now have the piece of mind the failed part will be covered under warranty?
WoW. Oil filter voids warranty. Meanwhile Subaru warranty engines with full exhaust system....... they even warranty engines with over rev history..... btw. subaru warranty labor time is a joke.
Thanks for the info. Just switched my '15 to the Rotella. Also thanks for imparting your knowledge of diesels so we may better understand.
Any issue with the switch? I called Ram services if the 2015 Ecodiesel can use the Rotella T6 5W-40 and they told me not do use it on the 2015.
I had no idea about Shawn. This is terrible. I've been a long time subscriber of his and was wondering where the heck his videos were. Oh man, rest in peace Shawn. I guess we were never really let into that part of his life, so we had no idea.
Sad to hear about Sean. I enjoyed his videos on the modifications he would do to his ECO DIESEL.
+Seth Adams I know I used to really enjoy his videos and the way he narrated them.
T6 is now using the same gas-to-liquid base stock that's used in the Pennzoil Platinum per Shell product info sheets. Good stuff.
Thanks you proved my point about gaining mileage at the cost of long engine life. And that’s for gas and diesel. And I also agree if a aftermarket oil filter comes apart your warranty is gone but if the OEM comes a part they have to honor the warranty.
Keep the vids coming. And hope your doing well now that your out on your own.....
Quick update at 49,000 miles my Turbo failed, the service electric throttle cable came on. The dealer originally thought the engine failed but later said it was the turbo. It was a two week delay. Not even a week later the Service DEF light appears. I am starting to feel this truck is going to be a problem. Might take it to another dealer, seems the dealer struggled through fixing it. Warranty covered it with the $100 detuctible.
I was at the dealer and asked the salesman if he can check on a 2017 Ecodiesel. The typical sales approach of asking about deposit and such. I tell the salesman that I bought a Ecodiesel from this dealer and looking for a trade-in. He leaves the desk to talk to his manager. The salesman returned and said "we don't have any Ecodiesel in stock. I have plenty of Rams in stock without the diesel engine. "I talked to another salesman asked about what happened to the Ecodiesel Ram. He said"Sorry, the EPA has stopped any sales of the Ecodiesel." Now it's a waiting game.
So, I guess the take-away here is that we should ignore our dealer provided owner's manual advice advising 10.5 quarts of 5W-20 and switch to 5W-40 Rotella T-6 and 10.0 quarts? Interesting. I bought my 2015 recently (used, of course) and I have no idea what it's been running prior to now. I guess I'll see if the engine holds together or if it begins to come apart.
New oil spec is now extended to all ecodiesels. Just checked today.
Jumping ahead to 2021 here, are you still recommending the OEM filter? What are your thoughts on an oil catch can for the ecodiesel?
Thanks for all the SUPER informative videos for these ecodiesel engines!
We use the Rotella T6 oil in everything. Even our gas engines use it as we feel it gives the best protection for the money.
Thanks again for your informative EcoDiesel videos.
I have 38,000 miles on my 2015 Ecodiesel. I brought my truck to the dealer back in August for an oil change. . I ask the guy to reset my oil life monitor since the service tech forgot to do it. I noticed on the service invoice that an update was done. The guy said it was a system update for the vehicle. I guess it was the oil. My rear tires are worn , dealer never rotated tires. It's good I found this video. Can't trust these dealers to perform work as they seem inundated every time I go.
Dude you rock. Sorry to hear about sean. Love my 2016 Laramie ecodiesel. I do my own oil changes and got this update that the oil changed. I change my first oil at 3500 and now it will be 11000 with Rotella. Rams rock.
Can you explain how Shawn by-passed his 8HP70 coolant heat exchanger? This was a very important mod he did but did not video it. These 195-198*F transmission temps are ridiculous! My ram did not come with the factory HD transmission cooler which incorporates a 160*F by-pass I think that is plumbed into the transmission lines so their temps never get over 185*F. Mine on the other hand rise to 210*F while towing a small 3Klb Inclosed trailer. I did install a very large tru-cool transmission cooler downstream of the factory cooler (in the radiator) as well as a Derele remote spin-on transmission filter kit without thinking about this by-pass. My temps never changed due too this heat exchanger is constantly heating my trans fluid with 204*F coolant. Which is crazy. I need to either by-pass the coolant with a inline temp controlled by-pass or just totally by-pass the exchanger all together. Shawn and I talked about this a time or 2 but he never got around to a video on how he did it. I have since drained and switched to Red Line D6 fluid to help handle the heat. Any thing you can add would be appreciated!
thank you, keep the vids coming.
my 2016 eco diesel recommends the oil change Every 9,000-10,000 miles and that's what the on dash computer tells me
The on dash computer can be set to tell you to change the oil at whatever mileage You set it at.
Hey.. Say you owned an F-150 with the 3.0 diesel... what oil would you put in it? The manual says a 5W30 FA-4 oil meeting their new WSS-M2C214-B1 spec, but it also states for "severe service" you shoud use a 5W40 CK-4 oil. Given what we saw with the ram, would you go straight for the 5W40? I feel the FA-4 oil is to meet fuel economy numbers only. Thanks!
Is this due to all of the EcoDiesel engine failures? They think it is the oil?
Does this go for 2017 as well? i got one 6 months ago and am interested in doing the maintenance that I am comfortable with. Dealers are a rip and half the time they are no better than a walmart when it comes to techs.
What s the details on the calibration when switching to the rotella 5w 40?, What would happen if the oil is switched but no calibration is done??
Another year past. Still liking that truck?
If you change over to the T6 oil, why would you have to go back to the dealer to flash the ECM ?
You don't have to but in general as you have seen on the 2016 models if there is a change in weight there are updates that go along with that for the oil life monitor and general operating parameters. I recently had my 2015 into the dealer and sure enough they updated the pcm.
Why would a gas engine with only 10K miles need serious engine work? Service history shows the truck was well taken care of. Oil changed done at less thank 3K miles. Looking it over it was a well taken care of truck. Not abused. I was the poor sucker that purchased the truck used only to find out just before I got it there was major work done. Pistons. Rings. connecting rods. Bearings. I put almost 6k on it then get a ticking lifter. When I took it in for that I found out about the other work before.
Why is the grand Cherokee ram eco diesel so damn expensive? The jeep dealer I take mine too charges 270.
Good stuff! My last 2 oil changes I paid the dealer $150 each. I've always changed my own oil my entire life so this is a good start! Any issues with warranty if you start changing the oil yourself?
Just keep those receipts detailing the correct oil and filter used.
The fact that you changed oil yourself vs. a Mopar tech. No as long as you used correct oil and filter (save those receipts) plus you followed correct procedures.
I was told today at Mopar dealer that it is now synthetic Pennzoil is what they require. Is that true?
Shame young man verry smart i really liked his vids
What is everyone’s thought on using Mobil Delvac 5w40 synthetic oil in the Ecodiesel engine?
I run T6 in my hellcat. Zoooom.
Ur wrong about warranty void on non OEM oil filters. There is a law that protects the consumer in 50 states.
Not true on the oil filter (OEM vs aftermarket). I can't remember the law name, but unless the OEM part is provided for FREE....aftermarket does not void your warrantee.
+Michael Doerner yes I know of the law you are talking about. Believe me working at a Ford dealership for 10 years tells a different story that law means squat. The regional Rep and dealer will void the warranty in a second and most won't take the issue to court over the law you are talking of because lawyer and court fees far outweigh the cost of the repair then you are stuck with a high repair bill or junk the truck over $5 difference in filter cost it's just not worth it.
Understood. GM has it's faults, but they also didn't stick ceramic bearings in the turbo of the Powerstroke 6.7L...;-)
Keep up the good work!
Can a Dealer Void My Warranty? Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act Explained
Whether you’re shopping for a
replacement exhaust system or in the market for an aftermarket cold air
intake-and you’re worried about your vehicle’s warranty-have no fear.
AutoAnything is here to give you the 4-1-1 on the Magnuson-Moss Warranty
Act, which protects consumers from being wrongfully denied warranty
coverage when they customize their rides.
If you’re an auto
enthusiast, chances are, you’ve heard the myth that modding your ride
with aftermarket accessories automatically cancels your warranty. While
this may be true in certain circumstances, you shouldn’t take this as an
absolute. According to the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, a vehicle
manufacturer cannot void the warranty of your vehicle due to an
aftermarket part unless they can prove that the aftermarket part was the
cause of or contributed to the failure of the vehicle (15 U.S.C. 2302
(C)). This means that a vehicle's warranty cannot be "voided;" the
dealer can only deny a claim if the stock part failed due to damage or
unreasonable use.
I know I am a little late on this but the Magnuson-Moss Warranty
Act 100% protects you on this. I worked for an aftermarket parts supplier for 12 yrs. We sold all brands of filters some better than others. We also sold AC Delco, Mopar and Motorcraft. I personally run Wix Filters on my vehicles. You don't have to worry about going to court, I have seen first hand this happen and the customers call Wix or K and N and their lawyers handle it for you. I had one customer who had a Wix filter a dealership said caused a problem and they flew their engineers down to take their own samples and the dealership changed their tune quick. Don't be bullied by dealerships. It's not about price to me, it is about quality. None of the OE truck builders make their own filters anymore. I know for a fact that Wix makes filters for multiple OEMs. I have also seen behind the scenes that some of these filters are not up to the same standards as the premium brand. Sorry for the rant but I cant stand when misinformation is out there about this. BTW I love your channel :)
Ram EcoDiesel Source, and the law doesn’t matter because if you look at the arbitration contract assigned to the vehicle, you are forced to arbitration anyway and the warranty claim WILL be denied. Use Mopar filters until the warranty is out.
Any idea when the updated calibrations might come down the pipeline for the 2014-2015 model years? I have a 2015 and need to do an oil change. I've been using Mobil 1 ESP 5W-30, but I'm debating switching to Mobil Delvac 1 ESP 5W-40. My only hesitation is the lower NOACK of the ESP 5W-30 and lower ash % of the ESP 5W-30. Since I don't tow (only long highway and light off-road, almost no city driving), I don't know how much benefit I'd actually see from the CJ-4 5W-40. I suspect my driving patterns lend themselves to the ESP 5W-30. Thoughts?
Also, any idea if the current EPA testing hold-ups are going to change this? I know nobody knows for sure, so I'm just asking for an opinion.
I am waiting on a long term review on your Ecodiesel, has to have been at least a year since purchasing?
How many miles on it now? Any major repairs under/out of warranty?
Fuel mileage? Still happy with the vehicle?
...and the biggest question. Would you buy another?
yes yes and yes very happy with it expect a video soon on this subject along with a separate video on problems I have had with the truck that required service.
Bought mine new off the floor in 2014. Kept maintenance up to the T. Catastrophic engine failure at 135000. No rebuild kits are available. So i have a 40000 paper weight in the driveway. Dont buy it
Ram EcoDiesel Source Have you brought the Ram in for the latest recall?
The AEM software update to comply with the EPA Class Action Lawsuit has caused many complaints for a coolant leak that may cause an engine fire.
My truck is waiting at the dealer, FCA has no EGR parts and isn’t able to fix the problem.
When are you gonna post an updated video
I talked to Shawn on the phone quite a bit. Does anyone know why he took this path?
I just bought a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit with eco diesel with 42,000 miles, should I also change to this oil and weight?
cardenasrc51.. Yes you should. I requested at the dealer for them to use it on my Summit EcoDiesel and they are already using it on all EcoDiesels.
Thanks. I'm brand new
What engine oil should I use for my 2014 RAM ProMaster 2500 high roof ecodiesel? I just recently bought it and I'm new to diesel engine. I'm so confused on witch oil to use. Help me out thanks in advance.
Although I know very little about automobiles I own a 2014 Ram Promaster Ecodiesel van. RamTrucks maintenance procedures per webpage is still recommending 5W-30 low ash. I used the the T6 last oil change and plan to do so with the next oil change. Is this all right or should I go back to the 5W-30?
Does this apply to the 2012 jeep grand cherokee 3.0crd aswell
Not true about the warranty at all. Check the magnuson moss act. Unless your parts are provided for free from the manufacturer they cannot void your warranty for use of aftermarket.
See comment below- "yes I know of the law you are talking about. Believe me working at a Ford dealership for 10 years tells a different story that law means squat. The regional Rep and dealer will void the warranty in a second and most won't take the issue to court over the law you are talking of because lawyer and court fees far outweigh the cost of the repair then you are stuck with a high repair bill or junk the truck over $5 difference in filter cost it's just not worth it"
Ram EcoDiesel Source Trust me I've been down this road with KTM about using "their motorex brand oil and KTM oil filter" as soon as I mentioned the magnuson moss act and seeking a lawyer they immediately backed down because they had no leg to stand on. Dealerships like you mentioned just take advantage of the I'll advised and lack of knowledge that 99% of consumers have. Knowledge is power and always will be.
Yup but it can go either way and just not worth the hassle and threats fighting with a dealer for $5 extra twice a year for oil changes.
Do you still have your eco diesel? If so are you fimiliar with the etc light?
Where do you buy the oil filter and fuel filters at?
My ecodiesel has been at the dealer for over three months due to an oil leak at the timing cover,block and head on the drivers side, has anyone had this problem?
I have a 2016 with 45k miles on it. when having the 20k mile oil change the dealer flashed the ppm and put in the 5w40. Before the flash and oil change I was getting 26 to 28 MPG and now for the last 25K I only get 18 to 20 MPG.
Ken Costello I have that very same issue with my 2015. I used to be so proud of the power and MPH. Now I’m getting about 19.5 city and highway. That’s is the MPH I was getting hauling my boat when my mileage was as advertised. They done my 1st 6 oil changes for free. I wonder if they changed oil type, and flashed the PCM and didn’t notify me of the change. I am fixing to do my 1st oil change myself. I have already bought all the hot shot diesel products to go through my fuel, and oil. Are you sure this was why your MPH changed? Or have you figured anything else out?
Lol, MPG. Fat fingering the H I guess.
I have a 2015 with 46k. Last oil change the dealer used the 5-40. Before my mixed average was 27mpg. Now it’s 25. Wonder why your change was so drastic?
Hi I just bought a new 19 ecodiesel.
What oil comes in it from the factory?
Is it full snythedic?
What should I put in, i live in Canada and have some 40- Celsius cold starts in January.
Also do these trucks have a hi idle mode on the cruise control?
Thanks for the help
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Trade it in. Get a 2500 or better. I bought ED in 2014. Kept up with the maintenance and more. 135000 miles and had catastrophic engine failure. There is no rebuild kits for the engine. The lowest cost for replacing it is 12000 dollars. So basically i have a 40,000 paper weight sitting in the drive way.
If you use the T 6 oil in an 2014' why does the dealer need to flash you ECM?
They don't.
can I switch to the new Rotella oil without performing the flash?
I would imagine yes as the reflash is only going to adjust basic parameters to the intelligent oil life monitor.
Wonder if this change has anything to do with the EPA investigation and FCA figuring out the engine calibration.
I didn't bother with the flash when I switched to Amsoil Signature Series 5W-40. It was apparently for calibrating the "oil pressure" display, which was meaningless anyway. Still have to change every 10K miles. In fact, I just passed 29,200 miles and every start shows the message, "Change Oil Soon."
hey ram ecodiesel I have a 2016 Colorado with a 2.8 max in it.can I use that rotela t6?? btw like all your videos thanks!!
Yes
sucks that buddy took his life :( My ecodiesel is at 40k kms and still going strong.
TheStuffz How strong you traded it.lol
Still happy with that truck?
Very! Just got back from a 3500 mile trip and couldn't be happier with it.
I have the 2016 model. So far so good. What do u think of all the negative videos people post about the ED?
Thanx for your videos btw
What is an ecodiesel? I have a 2014 ram 3500 4×4 cummins, is this considered an ecodiesel?
There are two separate and entirely different diesels to be had in Ram trucks. The 2500 & 3500 series takes the much larger and robust (at the risk of understatement) Cummins Diesel and the 1500 series takes the Italian MV 3 litre v-6 named the, “Ecodiesel”.
Refer to Ram’s various brochures and advertisements to find out the differences.
Just curious if you have had to clean your DEF injector on your RAM 1500 yet?
Nothing yet no.
yes
Did you see that video Mopar ecodiesel posted?His def tank was plugged with a build of white resadule.
Def is made with a fertilizer called urea mixed with deionized water when it dries the white stuff you are seeing is the fertilizer
How is the 40 weight oil effecting fuel mileage? If at all.
Thomas, I lost about 2 mpg.
I'd never put 5w30 in any diesel. The first time I saw that I said "nope".
Do you know what it means when the oil pressure low light comes on means?
Don Olypopper damn really has it happen to you ?
Sorry to hear about shaun,
If i remember correctly, in your previous oil change video you recommended changing the oil every 5K miles. Do you still feel this way even though the trucks oil change sensorineural system seems to be about twice that at 10K miles.
and is there a difference in oil breakdown on a vehicle that does 10K miles in 2 months versus 10K miles over 10 months?
I am currently hitting about 4K miles per month on my ecodiesel, so to do an oil change every 5 to 6 weeks seems a bit much. what are your thoughts?
what are you thoughts on using the Kendall GT-1? I know it's not dealer recommend but I know Sean swore by that stuff
I used it on my first oil change. It's been about 8500 miles since that change. I only saved about $10 on it over the Penzoil. Can't say I've had the most piece of mind about it. Cold starts are rougher. I certainly won't use Kendall again and wouldn't recommend it for anyone else in this application.
So, it's the heat generated.
Hi i have a 2014 jeep grand cherokee ecodiesel does this oil works on my engine ? The rotella t6 ?
Same engine so yes why not but check with your dealer on the change.
Ram EcoDiesel Source ok thanks i will check with them because im currently using mobil 1 esp formula since they say it has to be low ash oil like the penzoil ..but i like mobile 1 better not penzoil .
Stop using Mobil1 ESP, if you haven't already.
Andrew August why ??
Well, FCA found out that Mobil1 ESP was one of the reason of high engine failure rate. In July 2016, they ordered all the dealers to drain Mobil1 ESP and fill it with Shell Rotella T6 5W40 in all unsold Jeep and RAM Eco Diesel. FCA also ordered all dealers to us T6 5W40 on any Eco Diesel that will come for service from that point on.
I have been using mobil 1 for a long time. This video, as well as the manual, state we should use the Shell Rotella T6 Full Synthetic Heavy Duty Engine Oil 5W-40 and no other, however, the Mobil 1 website states it's Mobil Delvac 1™ ESP 5W-40..
Is their any reason why the Mobil one won't work as well as the Rotella?
Yes. If you send a sample into Blackstone Labs with 10,000 miles, I think you'll find less wear metals.
filter is still $70 rediculouse price bought one the other day and that euro oil was terrible i changed my trucks oil after only 7500 miles and it was ultra black
7,500 miles is way too long to wait for an oil change there is lots of blow by on boosted engines.
I disagree. 7500K is not that hard on Rotella t-6 especially if you use a quality filter like a Mann or Wix XP. Rotella T-6is a full synthetic used for big rigs.
So run this in my '17 ED?
Run it in everything
Amsoil ea filters
is the 09 taurus reliable
You are ABSOLUTELY wrong and giving false information, they CANNOT void your warranty for not using OEM filters. It is called the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act. Of 1975.
I’ve been an Harley Mechanic for over 15 years and have shared this to dispel confusion about having to use Harley oil or parts. If you’re gonna tell people that, make sure you know the laws. Look up the act yourself.
You are absolutely right about the act, but I speak from the real world experience working at a dealership on the automotive side and also helping with the admin side of things. In a dealership all it takes is a phone call from the service manager to the regional rep with documentation why they believe the warranty should be voided for it to get voided. At that point you are fighting a well funded team of lawyers and engineering experts from the auto manufacturer in court. So I ask is it worth it to use the parts you think are better because you bought into the marketing hype of an aftermarket company or just use the right stuff and never have a problem and if you did you now have the piece of mind the failed part will be covered under warranty?
WoW. Oil filter voids warranty. Meanwhile Subaru warranty engines with full exhaust system....... they even warranty engines with over rev history..... btw. subaru warranty labor time is a joke.
Oil filter does not void warrantee!
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Dam sad beginning
if I owned an Eco-diesel that required a 50 dollar oil filter......I'd kill myself too...