The Shifter Genocide of Khorvaire | Eberron Lore
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The "Kanon" (Keith Baker canon) rebuttal:
Shifters aren't watered-down lycanthropes in the lore of Eberron. Some lycanthropes are ascended shifters, others are a mutation caused by the daelkyr (eldritch aberrations) or by the fiendish Wild Heart, neither of which needs shifters to function.
The Eldeen Reaches has its own kind of artificer ("primal" rather than "arcane" in styling but mechanically identical), and shifters would certainly be that kind of artificer. Also worth noting that the pictured shifter holding a scroll is Eberron's "iconic character" for wizards, a shifter wizard named Baristi.
The shifting traits are not hereditary in lore but represent the animal totem the shifter is closest to. So two longtooth shifters could have a razorclaw child if said child connected more to the "razorclaw" totem
The Lycanthropic Inquisition's main issue was that it was a WAR against a much larger, more virulent group of lycanthropes which were attacking BOTH the shifters (whose own lycanthropes were turning evil and violent) and the the common folk of the region. The Church of the Silver Flame came from Thrane to fight the lycanthropes, allied with the shifters who were lycanthrope fighting experts and it was the eventual discovery of the first killed lycanthropes reverting to shifters after death which drove a wedge between the initial alliance between the three groups (and yes, the templar, the commoners and the shifters are three distinct groups here). Once the lycanthrope threat was contained and the curse stopped being spread by afflicted lycanthropes and only by natural again, the templar left . . . and THEN the commoners started exterminating shifters.
Types of Lycanthropes and how they relate to Shifters, as well as Keith Baker's description of the conflicts : keith-baker.com/ifaq-lycanthropes/
The sections which detail death camps and a need for the the Keeper to clarify that shifters were people are written by people who are not Keith Baker. And when those people write stuff, it tends to conflict with the themes of Eberron, usually to give a clear bad guy or return to tired old tropes from other settings. The Silver Flame doesn't need to be an analogue for the Catholic Church, organized religion can be the bad guy without a single "lawful good in name only, corruption and witch burnings" group. Even ignoring the Kanon timeline that the shifters helped first and then paranoia caused a souring of relations which only boiled over after the Silver Flame left, the key part of the Inquisition was that there was a VERY REAL material threat to living beings in western Aundair at that time, and fighting supernatural evil is the Silver Flame's duty. How much bleed into killing people who didn't deserve it you want to put in is up to the DM at the end of the day, but far too many people are reading real world parallels as a matter of course.
I'd also add that 5th Edition lore, both canon and Exploring Eberron, implies that rather than being descended by lycanthropes, it is the other way around. That the natural gifts of the shifters were corrupted into the curse of lycanthropy, either by an overlord or by the daelkyr known as Drynn the Corrupter. Keith Baker also has a blog about the events that led to the lycanthropic purge.
link?
Yeah I was under the impression that lycantropes was corrupted versionsnof shifters not the other way around.
@@atlascove1810 I think this is stated in exploring Eberron.
Cool. I like that subscriber frame. Eberron lore. Love Eberron, ran it since it first came out. The lycanthropic purge of The Silverflame was a hefty weight on our 15yr campaign. We had characters with lycanthropy that helped locate and protect those shifters from the holy regime. Loved the whole storyline. I played a silverblood from 3.5. Fun times. Great vid as usual 👍
Shifter barbarian, played one in theros using the bestial soul subclass, one of my favourite characters yet
Good video, love seeing more Eberron! Just for a little clarification on some stuff, it's ambiguous if shifters or lycanthropes came first, and many shifters claim lycanthropes were created when the wild heart (overlord representing the fear of nature) corrupted some shifters into being lycanthropes. Also, the Silver Flame as a whole didn't purge out shifters, but there were some zealots (especially the pure flame in Aundair) were heavily against shifters and murdered many of them. I only say this because the silver flame as a whole gets a bad wrap for the actions of some of its smaller and more zealous splinter sects.
Sorry but it doesn't matter what we say or think anymore, all that stuff pre-2014 doesn't exist in the minds of WOTC. It's not realized canon regardless of what I hold in my heart.
@@antonioiglesias427 Wrong video maybe? Would have been more useful on the last one, rather than just replying to a comment here being depressing out of nowhere.
I could have sworn there was a sizable shifter population in the underbelly of Sharn. Maybe I imagined it.
Yeah I feel like that can happen a lot. I imagined Drow and Planetouched had more of a presence on Khorvaire. Not the case.
Ye Sharn has quite large population of shifter compared to other cities, I think its cause how huge Sharn is and its melting pot nature.
Naturally. Sharn is Steampunk version of Shadowrun/Cyberpunk. They make great Longshoremen at the Skydocks of Precarious. There are a few that work as Inquisitives, merchants, and professionals.
I mean you'll find all sorts in Khyber's gate.
I always had an interest in Shifter Tracker Bennin Silverclaw joining the Silver Crusade to hunt lycanthropes.
4e has Minotaurs in PHB3, another good choice for Huge Yakman.
Eberron? Hallelujah!!
Woooaaaahh!! Eberron lore? Very nice Jordan!
I love shifters and I love Eberron!
Hell yeah more Eberron content
Perfect I have a Shifter player in my group! Always good to have more lore on them.
Wow!! I love this Eberron series. Even when you mess up a bit 'cause we're all learning. As far as I'm concerned, nailing it!!
Yay! More Eberron contacts! ! !
Jack Hughman. Clearly, he's not a shifter. What shifter would be named hughman?
Well you just got another subscriber
Love the content
Thank you for helping me broaden my dnd games and lore
YAY MORE EBERRON!
Love Eberron Lore, please, more
Yay, new lore video! I always enjoy learning more about Eberron
My next character is a Shifter, so this is just in time for me. 👍👍
Thanks for the Eberron love!
Currently in the Oracle of War campaign and looking forward to more Eberron videos.
I like the idea of shifters or any other race for that matter being able to possess aberrant dragonmarks. It can help mark that individual as something special and lead to numerous story opportunities. Just off the top of my hand, you can have a sect of the church that still sees the Silver Purge as a good thing put out a bit on the shifter because they see his dragonmark as a threat.
For sure, them not having dragonmarks like ever and all of a sudden one (your player) has one. That would be a cool story. I was referring them on mass having them.
Made your sign go up by +1! Great video!
Awesome! Thank you!
darrow is gonna love thisssss
Eberron, baby!
A short wolf Shifter barbarian using punch daggers is basically Wolverine.
I watched the whole playlist of Eberron and I want to say thank you for doing all this! It really helped me prepare for my new campaign and fall in love with Eberron's lore!
Oh nice! I've been listening to an Eberron podcast called the manifest zone. Really ignited my interest in Eberron. I should make more videos on it.
love eberron stuff man, thanks for this...shifters remind me of sabertooth from marvel
Thank both you and the ever silent PH. Shifters are my favorite
More eberron!
hell yeah, leaving a like for Eberron!
I played a Shifter Path of the Beast Barbarian for a while and it was FANTASTIC. Sadly he got killed by a Sahuagin leader..
Omg thank you for this. It's something that gets glossed over in the setting but when you have players who want to play shifters you really need this information to help flesh your own interpretation of it out for the game. Thank you again, even if it's like shifter light information any information is welcome. (Would love more stuff on them but wizards don't seem to want to touch Eberron unless its to gloss over bits or remove Eberron specific stuff from books - Tasha's cauldron of everything felt as if it did a dirty on removing the only good shifter picture from the artificer class from the original book and then making the beast barbarian pages later look like a shifter but explicitly saying they where human. It's like wizards want the race gone and if that's the case, just be honest with players.)
I have a alchemist shifter npc who's an Archeologist.... he's actually very fun. Might do a full PC build of one when I get to play and not DM.
Woah we are at 99,000! Holy hell I remember when you started your forgotten realms anthology series 😳
It's been a fun four years! Excited for the big 100k!
Oh, sweet, Eberron lore! YEAH! I mean, they threw out the Forgotten Realms lore, so it makes sense. But, yeah! Eberron!
Did you say raspberry pie? Because that's what it sounded like, and now i want some raspberry pie
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lol There is actually a "Shifter Artificer" Miniature in the Eberron Set.
Yes and it looks terribly painted. 😔
Great video as always, J
Thanks for the video.
Would love to see videos on the more noir, pulp, or steampunk-ish aspects of Eberron. Perhaps starting with a video on artificers and the technology of Eberron?
So in my setting there is Norse- like culture that had a lycantropy problem a millennia ago. Now it's not a problem anymore, turns out a couple of generations in and you can control yourself. So now there are vikings raiding everywhere that are a mix of humans, shifters and full lycantropes.
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Brad Moonape.. Beasthide Shifther (Gorilla) Figther and Druid Sheperd Inheritor , a piece of land and need to protect it ...
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Continue to be excellent 🙂
Welcome aboard!
Karmos Render is such a cool name, ngl.
I’ve noticed there are a lot of named npcs in eberron but it’s hard to find info on them, which is disappointing because it would be cool to explore the world through their eyes. Is this something you’d consider in the future?
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Hey Jorphdan, can you at some point consider making lore videos about ebberon?
Warforged 2 electric boogaloo
Eberron lore!!! /faints
5e reset does that mean the weave was never damaged and the limits never applied on 10+ level spells?
Is it just me or is the audio kinda weird? I get some slight eerie echoes...
hmm? not sure? I didn't hear anything with editing... Can you give me a time stamp?
@@Jorphdan I experience during the whole video. First I thought it was just my speaker but I tried headphones and it is still there.
Ok I think I know what you're talking about. I'll go over my microphone and it's settings. Thanks for the heads up!
@@Jorphdan you are welcome. Thank you for all the awesome content!
They look like the werewolfs from teen wolf(1985)
What is the standing of Silver Flame regarding Warforged?
A warforged silver flame cleric sounds like a character searching for it's place in Eberron
Jorphdan, do you know if Eberron will have its lore retconned like forgotton realms?
I doubt it, I think it was always edition specific. Everything in Dungeons & Dragons belongs in Eberron (that's the official statement), which means certain races or classes are never restricted from Eberron. You just need to figure out how they fit in. A Tiefling might be from the demon wastes, or a dragonborn a product of the mournland.
Since every official game starts two years after the last war, there isn't much to retcon.
@@Jorphdan Awesome thank you! Hey, I wanted to ask, could you do a video covering the Golden Skins of the World Serpent? I love the lore about those scrolls.
Question how do you get to ravenloft from eberron
the Mournland, here's a supplement! www.dmsguild.com/product/364000/Dread-Metrol-Into-the-Mists--An-Eberron---Ravenloft-Crossover?affiliate_id=728035
Thanks
Not even the Druids pronounce the "PH" silent.
Any chance for krynn lore?
Most likely! I'm just a busy person. But I imagine next year they'll announce a dragonlance setting and by that time I'll hopefully had made a few videos on Krynn.
Silver Flame did nothing wrong