Also I found another tip that allowed my to play on all high settings. Set your pc res to the lowest while you're playing. I'm not sure if that can really work for you while making content.
Great video and very well explained and put together. Really appreciate it and I found it very helpful. I've got some 100+ hours in NMS VR and have done quite a bit to get it good and playable as it changes over the many updates. This got me flying around super smoothly, with solid frames over 100 a lot of the time! I was having issues where Virtual Desktop was super choppy anytime I tried it, but following your recommendations it was a game changer.
Steam has its own version of synchrons space warp and if you turn on the one in virtual desktop at the same time it causes bed stutters every few seconds
what virtual Desktop do you use? I used the steam one, but i cannot get it to work properly.. NMS is unplayable on VR atm and i would love for it to work as smooth as you got it! I have a 3080 Graphics card so there should not be any hardware issues
Hello, sorry for the late reply, I use the virtual desktop version from the official website of virtual desktop. Also yeah there shouldn’t be any hardware issues because my pc is decently slower than yours.
guessing your "Hardware" Power solely by GPU is impossible. How good a PC can run involves various factors like GPU, CPU, RAM, Hard Drive (SSD or HDD) wich versions and so on. You can have a 4070, but if your CPU is shit it will bottleneck the shit out of your PC. So basically if you want to tell people or ask people if your PC is good or not, post these Specs instead of just the GPU, so people can atleast have a better comparison.
@@andreniki8864 I did not post the rest of it because i KNOW my pc is good enough for it. it is 100% something else. Thats why i asked about the VM version he used But here are my specs for information. CPU; 13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-13700KF 3.40 GHz Motherboard; ASUS ROG Strix Z390-F GAMING M.2 Harddrive. With 64GB of Memory 850w power supply
@@userxz00 Yeah. apparently my CPU water cooler was failing, so the pump kept stopping during load. So as soon as i replaced that i managed to keep the system from heating up too much. Id check what temp your system reach during VR gameplay
haven't you set the STEAM VR resolution to 100% ? It shows 121% in the debug window. If you're using Virtual Desktop, this should always be set to 100%, otherwise you lose performance and also VRAM ujsage increases. Using Low Virtual Desktop resolution does not look good enough for me, to be honest. Even using Super Resolution, Sharpness and DLSS in Quality mode (DLSS is significantly better than FSR in quality mode). On my RTX 3070 Laptop, which is comparable to your system i prefer to play at HIGH quality in 72Hz using SSW and DLSS set to Quality. But i have to try Sizer 4.0, which is a really interesting information because the biggest performance drop happens when VRAM is running out. My RTX 3070 Laptop could run No Man's Sky in Godlike resolution with DLSS set to Performance a while ago, but after a game update VRAM usage increased and that totally tanks the performance after a while.
@@jordanshutts6719 i have noticed lower VRAM usage with the latest Experimental Version vom 24-08-02 than before. This is the first version since 2023 i can play in the highest VR headset resolution (3072 x 3216 per eye) and DLSS set to Performance mode on my RTX 3070 Laptop. Even on my RTX 4070 using DLSS Quality mode i can increase visual quality compared to the versions before and VRAM usage is lower. I have not noticed any performance drops, that weren't there before. Maybe DLSS implementation in VR is different to flatscreen.
@@jordanshutts6719 have you noticed any difference in VRAM usage compared to previous versions and do you also run the latest experimental version. Which DLSS settings have you tried ?
@ProgrammistMusic yeah I run experimental, and have noticed a difference. I have tried all available DLSS settings but jt is a known issue at the moment for VR players, the latest experimental release was suppose to address some of the issues but it hasn't with DLSS
okay i have a problem while playing the vr version when i look at the pc screen it's beautiful asf but when i put the headset on it's absolute garbage can someone explain this like i'm dumb
@@osmnbaran it’s because it’s a zoomed out view on the pc screen. The textures and everything are bigger in vr which will automatically make it look bad. Think about it like viewing a 480p picture in a small window but when you blow it up to your whole screen it looks super pixelated and bad quality.
@@NoahPlayzVR oh ok thanks and one more thing, i have my wifi provider about 2 meters away from my pc but there is a wall in-between (pc is connected via ethernet) and i think the wall being in the way makes it harder to play games, should i get an extra router? (my idea is: get an extra router, connect it via ethernet, connect the pc to the extra router via ethernet.)
No you shouldn’t need an extra router. The best thing is the pc to be connect via Ethernet. Your WiFi itself might not be fast enough. What speed is your wifi?
@osmnbaran well that’s the main problem. But don’t worry about it yet. Just change the max bitrate in VD to 100mbps and it shouldn’t lag. If there’s still lag lower it a little bit.
You're using forced SSW to interpolate and “double” the framerate. When VD shows you those 77-90 FPS the game actually runs at 38-45 range which is a puke town.
on lower or midrange PCs there is no way around SSW to be honest. But even on faster PCs, 120Hz with 60fps to be interpolated to 120fps looks smoother than a lower or even unstable FPS. in VR you need a 100% stable FPS, even if it's only 36fps interpolated to 72Hz.
The main problem is you use an AMD video card so this is what you need all this dancing-around. First time I run Quast 2 on i-7 4th generation with GTX-970 and it's working slow but working/ Now I run it on i-7 14-the generation with RTX 4080 and I have 0 problems. There is no point in changing settings in the graphic card app because this will be only for your MONITOR and if you need good performance then you need to set this to low so when you play on VR it will play also on the monitor with low settings but VR has his one settings so in my Quast 2 I see 2k resolution in headset and 1920Х1080 on the monitor. And if you want a good graphics experience with no problem then you need Nvidia.
@@NoahPlayzVR Yes but my first experience with VR was on a very old PC GTX-980 was the first video card with VR support. I used it for this game and doesn't have visual artifacts as you have with better video card. So old Nvidia works better than newer AMD. The second point is video settings on graphic card applications are for monitor settings not all of this for VR. As I explain before I have 2K on my Headset but in-game setting resolution is 1080 course this only for monitor not for VR
This is no issue in No Man's Sky. The latency can be 100ms without me noticing it at all. This is a different story if you play fast paced or sports games. You will need a latency not higher than 30ms.
@@TestroYT yes, that's true. I am very sensitive to this too, since i do play VR Tennis and i can only play on native Quest 3, since latency is pretty much zero due to motion prediction. But in games like No Man's Sky i simply do not notice this, because i do not need to exactly hit or point to a target with my hands totally in sync. I am not sure if NMS VR performance will ever get better in the future, but with a fast gaming PC you can play without SSW already. It may improve if they switch to OpenXR though.
@@ProgrammistMusic I have no idea how to switch to openXR, but my pc is pretty good and I can run literally every other vr game just fine, do you have a link to a tutorial or something?
Change the title to say "How to get the MOST FPS in No Man's Sky QUEST VR". Not everyone has the facebook spyware set so your last section was pointless.
@@NoahPlayzVR So I wamt to get this running on my Legion go, if I understand correct, I just need Sizer and No Man's Sky installed? I m using Pico 4 Ultra headset, last time I played NMS VR it was like 4 FPS on lowest settings, while without VR the game was beautiful on mid tier settings.
This is very helpful 5 months later, I love how you made this as well you made it a little more watchable than other tutorials
Also I found another tip that allowed my to play on all high settings. Set your pc res to the lowest while you're playing. I'm not sure if that can really work for you while making content.
doesn't vr look like shit when u do that
No it only effects the pc monitor resolution not the vr resolution
Nice! I love how you laid out this video
Great video and very well explained and put together. Really appreciate it and I found it very helpful. I've got some 100+ hours in NMS VR and have done quite a bit to get it good and playable as it changes over the many updates. This got me flying around super smoothly, with solid frames over 100 a lot of the time! I was having issues where Virtual Desktop was super choppy anytime I tried it, but following your recommendations it was a game changer.
Glad it worked for you! That makes my day!
Thank you, got me playing the game
No problem bro! I’m glad I helped you out!
bro u doin gods work rn
That spacewarp thing helped a lot for me.Thank you for showing me this
Steam has its own version of synchrons space warp and if you turn on the one in virtual desktop at the same time it causes bed stutters every few seconds
I was hoping to not spend $25 on Virtual Desktop but it looks like it's dope af. Thanks for the video.
I can send you a referral link for 15% off of VD if you want me to. Just look in desc.
what virtual Desktop do you use?
I used the steam one, but i cannot get it to work properly..
NMS is unplayable on VR atm and i would love for it to work as smooth as you got it!
I have a 3080 Graphics card so there should not be any hardware issues
Hello, sorry for the late reply, I use the virtual desktop version from the official website of virtual desktop. Also yeah there shouldn’t be any hardware issues because my pc is decently slower than yours.
guessing your "Hardware" Power solely by GPU is impossible. How good a PC can run involves various factors like GPU, CPU, RAM, Hard Drive (SSD or HDD) wich versions and so on. You can have a 4070, but if your CPU is shit it will bottleneck the shit out of your PC. So basically if you want to tell people or ask people if your PC is good or not, post these Specs instead of just the GPU, so people can atleast have a better comparison.
@@andreniki8864 I did not post the rest of it because i KNOW my pc is good enough for it. it is 100% something else.
Thats why i asked about the VM version he used
But here are my specs for information.
CPU; 13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-13700KF 3.40 GHz
Motherboard; ASUS ROG Strix Z390-F GAMING
M.2 Harddrive.
With 64GB of Memory
850w power supply
@@PunT3K did you ever find out? i have like a decent pc and still some how cant get this game to run
@@userxz00 Yeah. apparently my CPU water cooler was failing, so the pump kept stopping during load. So as soon as i replaced that i managed to keep the system from heating up too much. Id check what temp your system reach during VR gameplay
my 8 gb of vram are not enaught. When i am on an planet it overflows into system memory
lol i have 4gb vram
@@Crappyeditz does it work?
@@BoyWhoLikesMinecraftPvp lol i get like 5 fps
haven't you set the STEAM VR resolution to 100% ? It shows 121% in the debug window. If you're using Virtual Desktop, this should always be set to 100%, otherwise you lose performance and also VRAM ujsage increases. Using Low Virtual Desktop resolution does not look good enough for me, to be honest. Even using Super Resolution, Sharpness and DLSS in Quality mode (DLSS is significantly better than FSR in quality mode). On my RTX 3070 Laptop, which is comparable to your system i prefer to play at HIGH quality in 72Hz using SSW and DLSS set to Quality.
But i have to try Sizer 4.0, which is a really interesting information because the biggest performance drop happens when VRAM is running out. My RTX 3070 Laptop could run No Man's Sky in Godlike resolution with DLSS set to Performance a while ago, but after a game update VRAM usage increased and that totally tanks the performance after a while.
There's a bug at the moment with DLSS in NMS increases VRAM and lowers FPS. It's better to turn it off temporarily.
@@jordanshutts6719 i have noticed lower VRAM usage with the latest Experimental Version vom 24-08-02 than before. This is the first version since 2023 i can play in the highest VR headset resolution (3072 x 3216 per eye) and DLSS set to Performance mode on my RTX 3070 Laptop. Even on my RTX 4070 using DLSS Quality mode i can increase visual quality compared to the versions before and VRAM usage is lower. I have not noticed any performance drops, that weren't there before. Maybe DLSS implementation in VR is different to flatscreen.
@@ProgrammistMusic I am playing in vr too.
@@jordanshutts6719 have you noticed any difference in VRAM usage compared to previous versions and do you also run the latest experimental version. Which DLSS settings have you tried ?
@ProgrammistMusic yeah I run experimental, and have noticed a difference. I have tried all available DLSS settings but jt is a known issue at the moment for VR players, the latest experimental release was suppose to address some of the issues but it hasn't with DLSS
This goes hard
The VR game is fantastic. The only problem it still has is the star map...
what about steam link? have you tried?
What are your specs?
It’s in the description of the video!
Oh yeah i see that now. Will using virtual desktop make that big performance boost if I'm using something like a vive?
Think an rx 7600m xt egpu with a win max 2 could work well on it?
Close, from upon looking online your gpu is equivalent to a RTX 3060 desktop gpu. You may just have to play with lower settings
okay i have a problem while playing the vr version when i look at the pc screen it's beautiful asf but when i put the headset on it's absolute garbage can someone explain this like i'm dumb
@@osmnbaran it’s because it’s a zoomed out view on the pc screen. The textures and everything are bigger in vr which will automatically make it look bad. Think about it like viewing a 480p picture in a small window but when you blow it up to your whole screen it looks super pixelated and bad quality.
@@NoahPlayzVR oh ok thanks and one more thing, i have my wifi provider about 2 meters away from my pc but there is a wall in-between (pc is connected via ethernet) and i think the wall being in the way makes it harder to play games, should i get an extra router?
(my idea is: get an extra router, connect it via ethernet, connect the pc to the extra router via ethernet.)
No you shouldn’t need an extra router. The best thing is the pc to be connect via Ethernet. Your WiFi itself might not be fast enough. What speed is your wifi?
@@NoahPlayzVR 100mbps
@osmnbaran well that’s the main problem. But don’t worry about it yet. Just change the max bitrate in VD to 100mbps and it shouldn’t lag. If there’s still lag lower it a little bit.
You're using forced SSW to interpolate and “double” the framerate. When VD shows you those 77-90 FPS the game actually runs at 38-45 range which is a puke town.
Yeah but in my opinion it looks smoother than just normal fps and I’m pretty sure I mentioned that it’s only having the PC running at half the frames
on lower or midrange PCs there is no way around SSW to be honest. But even on faster PCs, 120Hz with 60fps to be interpolated to 120fps looks smoother than a lower or even unstable FPS. in VR you need a 100% stable FPS, even if it's only 36fps interpolated to 72Hz.
How does this translate to using a steam native headset? I’m using the bigscreen beyond, it only goes up to 90 hz refresh rate
Just adjust the settings that aren’t in virtual desktop. Also look in bigscreen beyond’s settings and see if they have performance options.
I just purchased the game on Steam sale. Can I play VR in this game using a Xbox controller instead of the VR controller?
Yes, No man’s Sky supports vr with any gamepad so an Xbox controller would work!
@@NoahPlayzVR i don't think that works in VR.
whats ur router?
Is virtual desktop needed?
Not necessarily but I highly recommend it
It's so so much better than steam link or air link, there is 0% of chance u regret to buy it
@@viight8457 100% agree. Steam Link o Oculus Link are power VRAM killers.
The main problem is you use an AMD video card so this is what you need all this dancing-around. First time I run Quast 2 on i-7 4th generation with GTX-970 and it's working slow but working/ Now I run it on i-7 14-the generation with RTX 4080 and I have 0 problems. There is no point in changing settings in the graphic card app because this will be only for your MONITOR and if you need good performance then you need to set this to low so when you play on VR it will play also on the monitor with low settings but VR has his one settings so in my Quast 2 I see 2k resolution in headset and 1920Х1080 on the monitor. And if you want a good graphics experience with no problem then you need Nvidia.
Yea but your cpu and gpu is 1000x better than my parts. This video was meant for mid-range gamers not flagship
@@NoahPlayzVR Yes but my first experience with VR was on a very old PC GTX-980 was the first video card with VR support. I used it for this game and doesn't have visual artifacts as you have with better video card. So old Nvidia works better than newer AMD. The second point is video settings on graphic card applications are for monitor settings not all of this for VR. As I explain before I have 2K on my Headset but in-game setting resolution is 1080 course this only for monitor not for VR
bro ssw makes the latency absolutely horrible, unplayable
This is no issue in No Man's Sky. The latency can be 100ms without me noticing it at all. This is a different story if you play fast paced or sports games. You will need a latency not higher than 30ms.
@@ProgrammistMusic I can still tell when my hands are lagging behind my real ones, Ill just wait until they fix the vr performance
@@TestroYT yes, that's true. I am very sensitive to this too, since i do play VR Tennis and i can only play on native Quest 3, since latency is pretty much zero due to motion prediction. But in games like No Man's Sky i simply do not notice this, because i do not need to exactly hit or point to a target with my hands totally in sync. I am not sure if NMS VR performance will ever get better in the future, but with a fast gaming PC you can play without SSW already. It may improve if they switch to OpenXR though.
@@ProgrammistMusic I have no idea how to switch to openXR, but my pc is pretty good and I can run literally every other vr game just fine, do you have a link to a tutorial or something?
Change the title to say "How to get the MOST FPS in No Man's Sky QUEST VR". Not everyone has the facebook spyware set so your last section was pointless.
Sizer has nothing to do with Facebook 💀
@@NoahPlayzVR So I wamt to get this running on my Legion go, if I understand correct, I just need Sizer and No Man's Sky installed? I m using Pico 4 Ultra headset, last time I played NMS VR it was like 4 FPS on lowest settings, while without VR the game was beautiful on mid tier settings.
@@johnaspaul virtual desktop is a good option because it has performance presets and upscaling stuff. But doing it on a laptop might be a challenge