Alright, so here’s how you play on a controller pad: Adjust steering sensitivity to around 25-40%, depending on you preferences. You have to choose manual for your car. When approaching a tight curve, drop that gear to 2nd and drift hard. The key is downshifting and turning extra early - earlier than you might think. The end result should be you (relatively) seamlessly drifting around the corner. For a less tight curve, go to 3rd, but same concept applied. Don’t stick in those lower gears for too long - it’s a good idea to shift up soon after entering the drift. It takes a while to get used to, but completely revolutionizes the game after you practice enough to get the hang of it. It adds quite a bit of depth to the gameplay, trying to get the perfect drift and upshifts correct.
@@VideoGameEsoterica Appreciate it! It's not easy and takes a lot of practice to get just right. It's a delicate combination between slamming the brakes, downshifting/upshifting, and managing your turn, but when it comes together, you feel like a champ. It's just good to know that the game is nicely playable with a controller pad (and patience).
Spot on! Great comment. This is muscle memory for me now so I just assumed that everyone else knew this as well. SEGA were never that great at translating arcade racing game controls to control pad for some reason (Sega Rally 1 & OG Daytona on Saturn excepted, which were amazing). Sometimes it felt like they never play tested their later racing game conversions properly before release.
Absolutely loved it when this got released on the Dreamcast. Bit tricky at first until you sort out the deadzone on the controller but if you use that crappy DC steering wheel it works like a charm. There's a widescreen mod you can use if you run it through Redream as well.
@@VideoGameEsoterica It's the same with F-Zero GX - you need to go into the controller settings and max-out the range on the stick, or else things are twitchy as hell with the insane sensitivity/deadzone. Spookily enough emulating the original Daytona USA requires the same controller tweaks. It's like they're all defaulted to steering wheel sensitivity, as @goonerlee found out.
@@DaveFallows Yeah that's true. I've tried the DC Daytona, the ones running on Model 2 and the ones on Technoparrot and they all have that really sensitive steering. Scud Race too. I think it's something to do with some steering wheels turning a full 360 degrees and others only turning 180 but don't hold me to that. Funnily enough though the Daytona on Model 3 emulator can be tweaked and it works pretty good so who knows.
The steering in the boards themselves was designed for X degrees of rotation based on the cabinet hardware. If your wheel doesn’t match that it changes the feel
One of my all time favorites. I was never bothered by the twitchy controls, but when i tried it with the original DC steering wheel, woow, it was night and day compared to the controller. Very close to the arcade feeling.
I loved this game. I got it at release and used to play on a 21'' VGA monitor. Handling was very difficult until I unlocked the PYWACKETT BARCHETTA car. That changed everything for me. I could now drive normally. I have a couple of steering wheels for DC; the official one and a Thrustmaster wheel and pedals which are supposed to be very rare. An Ebay seller only wanted $25 for it boxed. Very impressive graphics at the time. And, Genki were so good. I miss them!
@@VideoGameEsoterica VGA was so good for Sega. Sega's troubles led to a drop in quality for Genki's games when Genki had to go from VGA to PS2's God-awful blurriness. It felt criminal to me.
I'll be honest, Daytona USA and Sega Rally 2 on Dreamcast were two giant disappointments for me. Sega's decision to do another Daytona port rather than porting Daytona 2 made no sense, either. A lot of their decisions in the late 90's really baffled me, like the decision to save VF3 for the Dreamcast, making people wait 3 years to play it.
Fighters megamix was a damned good game. The Virtua Cop girl, was it Janet? Had a lot of Aoi Umenokoji's moves. They still could have just made a version of VF3 using the VF2 engine sacrificing the different terrain levels and just adding the new characters and moves.
Sega should have set the default sensitivity setting to the left on the sensitivity slider in the options. Setting it where they did needlessly made a bad first impression on people. Here are a few suggestions: 1) Move the sensitivity slider almost all the way to the left, maybe about two or three notches or so from the left. That's about where the default setting should be. See how well that works, then go back to the options to adjust the steering wheel afterwards if you still feel it's necessary. I typically keep the steering setting as is. 2) Certain cars are better suited to certain tracks. The Lightning, for example, works best with simple tracks while lighter cars work well with tracks that have several tight turns like Seaside Street Galaxy. 3) Selecting the right tires for the right cars also improves control and handling. The Lightning handles more easily with the softest tires. 4) The rear tires spin out when pressing the gas before the car straightens out on your racing line. They also spin out when pressing too far and too quickly on the gas, whether at the starting line or coming out of a turn. Let it get into position as you come out of a turn before accelerating and figure out how quickly to accelerate coming out of each turn. Several turns require feathering the gas and/or brakes. You should be able to get the spinning out under control. All these steps together will help when practicing to figure out when and where to feather the gas and brakes and when to powerslide. Although the vehicle physics and handling aren't like the original, that's OK. They still have an arcade-like feel unlike Championship Circuit Edition. After awhile it played like a dream for me. I forgot about any comparison to the original as I could now appreciate and enjoy the vehicle handling on its own terms. This while using the Dreamcast controller. Heck, with practice, the Lightning might even be more controllable on some of the other tracks.
One thing that helped me with a controller was keeping the analogue stick up at the 12 o’clock direction when driving. It makes it easier to make subtle left/right turns.
One of those Dreamcast games that looked better than a lot of ps2 games. I wish I still had my copy. Too bad we didn't get Daytona 2 Dreamcast though. Give us what we want Sega!
You would be correct. PAL ended up being Infogrames for that. Sega Worldwide Soccer 2001 also ended up becoming UEFA Dream Soccer and published by Infogrames to get a license applied too.
Oddly enough, I've only really started getting into this game very recently, over the past 6 months or so. My interest in my DC was revitalized with the availability of component cables for the first time and DAMN does this game look fantastic on a CRT with component. While I agree that the controls are very twitchy at first, I do think you can adjust to them with the DC controller and default settings. That being said, this game is HARD when it comes to the more difficult sections...but you know, par for the course for Sega. I might have a bigger gripe with the controls if I were dedicated to 100 percenting this game, but as of now, I play it much more like you would in the arcade: casually in spurts of approximately 30 minutes or less. For that kind of gaming, this game is damn hard to beat.
Strangely, I adjusted to the controls very quickly back in the day - within a few games, I was able to get similar lap times in Dino Canyon as in the arcade with similar drift shifting techniques. Control was not perfect, but definitely not as dire as reviewers made it out to be. One thing I didnt like for sure was the weird shrink wrap look of the cars. Otherwise, really cool to have a NAOMI-fied Daytona USA
These graphics for Daytona blew me away at the time it was the first new Dreamcast game I got after buying the console with Sonic Adventure, Sonic Shuffle and Jet Set Radio. Daytona was a showpiece 40 cars on track 60fps it looks great still
This is massively underrated. The Japanese handling is great when you turn the sensitivity down. It's just more like Scud Race where you can spin out easily if you overcook it.
This remake was developed by Genki, who made some great games, but mostly developed budget games. They also did the notorious VF3tb Dreamcast port. So it seems like Sega wanted a quick and dirty rerelease of Daytona 1 for easy money and weren't too fussed about the quality. Also possible by then that Sega didn't have the source code of Daytona? So Genki would be replicating the handling by feel.
This is game is one of the reasons why I keep the Dreamcast hooked up. Such a perfect pick up and play game but I suppose that’s the magic of the Sega Dreamcast ❤️
I've never had any issues controlling this game on Dreamcast. I simply always play on 1st - person mode, drive full speed, but when there is corner coming ahead, i let go gas completedty way advance, but not using brakes at all. Always perfect turns this way. This game is awesome! I strongly recommend selecting 40 cars in for each race. Where is Daytona USA 2 for Dreamcast??? -It would sell well, even if released today!
Curse you! LOL 🤣. I read the first part and was like "Daytona 2 on Dreamcast? YEEES YEEES!". I know I should read it better but the "hits dreamcast". I should have known better considering how different Naomi and MOdel 3 are :P .
This one is a strange one. It is definitely not a port of the arcade but rather a reimagining. That said, physics and controls at first might seem nothing like the arcade but the more you play the more you feel the DNA is there. Controls are a mess, but if you decrease sensitivity and adjust dead zones you can definitely play it with a pad. There's plenty of secret and unlockable content to keep you entertained. Although I hated this at first I ended up loving it to bits. Definitely a slow burn game.
I hated the controls but I applaud the effort to modernize it at the time. I've gotten more tolerant to the controls over the years but if I want to play Daytona i will play on my xbox.
I really enjoy this game a lot. The criticism for the default controls is definitely deserved but going in the settings and reducing the analog sensitivity by 50% makes it much better and plays better than Daytona CCE IMO
I remember how AWFUL the controls were on this game. I could only keep my car on the road on the first track. HOWEVER, I spent many nights staying up to 4am playing online 😅😅
It was always odd to me how Sega got the controls right with the first Saturn Daytona...but the graphics were awful. Then in Daytona CCE and Daytona 2001, they got the graphics right but screwed the controls. Why? How?
@@VideoGameEsoterica Accurate! I do agree with you that 2001 was better than it gets credit for and I don't think it plays as badly as some people say that it does. It definitely isn't as tight as the arcade game (or that first Saturn port) though.
I played the DC version for years on pad with default settings. I did not know until a couple years ago that you could adjust the conteols. Still not great but way more playable. With that said, I have played the Xbox 350 (XBLA) version far more than any other other version. I believe it's since been delisted, however if you already own it it's backwards compatible and looks and plays great on my Xbox Series X.
@@VideoGameEsoterica Love the guy, even these days, he's a massive walking advertisement for SEGA :) . Whether he's in his "creepy uncle cosplay", in more serious garments or just is silly. The guy's a hoot :) .
@@VideoGameEsoterica YUP: ruclips.net/video/_ERHQRJu_AU/видео.html ruclips.net/video/hiWL6JDHpC0/видео.html ruclips.net/video/69CR3eK3edE/видео.html ruclips.net/video/2O3ouoacVO4/видео.html I mean, SEGA always had interesting characters, but he really stands out. But then this is the company that had the "SST band" whom later became "Blind Spot" after they retired and are still performing LOL . One of these is a 20 minute documentary, it has subtitles :). The documentary is actually quite interesting :). But he still does regular podcasts as well :P . Imagine ANYBODY at Sony or Nintendo doing this and still being employed! Only Microsoft had a few that were a bit, odd, but none came close to this. And with Microsoft it's often just Cringe XD .
Yeah, this version never really hit with me. It's not "bad", but I don't love it either, and I absolutely love Daytona USA. Not great Daytona is still good, but good isn't Daytona. Daytona is a masterpiece to me.
Man do we ever need a Daytona compilation! SEGA had good intentions with the Ages ports, but just doing the wrong games. Also what's the deal with Virtua Racing only being on Switch? Oh, SEGA...
Western releases at 3rd sensitivity make it play pretty close to the original. Its so weird that the shadows don't map to the car on the emulation footage. It's kinda jarring lol
I've never really warmed to this port; the controls borderline spoil it for me. I think you can deaden the twitchiness on some racing wheels (which might help), but it's better in the arcade and even the 360/PS3 ports. Holding out hope for some sort of game-hack where someone "corrects" the controls.
@@VideoGameEsoterica I bought a wheel specifically to play this port of the game, but it still didn't feel right. I'll give it another go one day; great video as always. By the way; tried the recent Daytona Championship USA (2017) in an arcade a few weeks ago and that didn't feel right either 🤣
SUCH a shame it wasn't daytona usa 2 .... also wasn't daytona usa either because physics where nowhere like it , played a lot but it's a frustrating experience that demands dedication
@@VideoGameEsotericait could happen if Sega gets back the rights or rerelease them under a new name like they did with Sega Racing Classic, but I’m afraid only Daytona USA will be ported since it’s the most popular and well known of the series. I’d be happy if at least they rereleased the PC ports of Daytona USA and Championship Circuit upgraded to run on a modern PC and various improvements so that it could be modded to include more content from the other games of the series
@@VideoGameEsoterica The only hope is that fans do the same that they're doing with Sega Rally and make a remake by themselves. If you don't know there's a Sega Rally fan remake called Over Jump Rally that recreates the original arcade game in Unreal Engine 5 that is currently being made for the PC.
Really bad with the controller on the Dreamcast. But with my Mad Catz Racing Wheel it is a dream come true. The best Daytona Home Version you can have. Maybe the best version at all.
Substance is everything and twitchy cars doesn't make for great gameplay. I have also hated the way that the rear of the vehicle bounces up and down, which is annoyingly frustrated on the eyes.
I had this when it came out and thought it was bad bought it again if you knock the sensitivity down pick right tyres it's a bad ass perfect arcade racer the dogs bollocks
control is indeed horrible.indeed I hope someday a hacker will fix this issue There is a widescreen hack already and also a arcade music hack. But the controls... I have no idea what happened here
Man the complaints about the controls in this are over the top. It's not that bad. Drop the sensitivity and practice a bit... Otherwise the game is fantastic!
I hate the car designs of the Daytona USA Dreamcast version!! Why didn't they made them like the original ones but better graphics? They look amorphous
Online play works now. Only on real dreamcasts for now. Sega. Why didn’t they just port this game to the arcade. Daytona championship USA sucks!!!! Love this game. Works with a wheel.
It's 100% made for the DC wheel, all the twitchiness will be gone if you can get your hands on one. Hated this on release but with the DC wheel the handling will be pretty close to the original and for me went from disappointing to possibly contender for best DC racer. If you've ever emulated an Arcade racing game that doesn't have pad support that's how Daytona USA 2001 plays on DC, like the devs made zero concession for pad players (iirc the sensitivity setting in the western version was added because of complaints after the NTSCJ version released). Also, there's a version of this that has the arcade OST modded back in, worth hunting it down. If you do get a DC wheel then look up the Ben Ryves 'de-deadzone mod' it elevates the racing experience a lot
@@VideoGameEsoterica Absolutely, one of the strangest decisions I've ever seen and it should have been tuned for both the controller and wheel play with controller as priority. The strangest part is that Sega perfectly translated the F355 Arcade steering wheel handling on Dreamcast, showing they were more than capable/aware that pad controls need consideration
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Alright, so here’s how you play on a controller pad:
Adjust steering sensitivity to around 25-40%, depending on you preferences. You have to choose manual for your car.
When approaching a tight curve, drop that gear to 2nd and drift hard. The key is downshifting and turning extra early - earlier than you might think. The end result should be you (relatively) seamlessly drifting around the corner.
For a less tight curve, go to 3rd, but same concept applied.
Don’t stick in those lower gears for too long - it’s a good idea to shift up soon after entering the drift.
It takes a while to get used to, but completely revolutionizes the game after you practice enough to get the hang of it.
It adds quite a bit of depth to the gameplay, trying to get the perfect drift and upshifts correct.
gonna pin this
@@VideoGameEsoterica Appreciate it!
It's not easy and takes a lot of practice to get just right. It's a delicate combination between slamming the brakes, downshifting/upshifting, and managing your turn, but when it comes together, you feel like a champ.
It's just good to know that the game is nicely playable with a controller pad (and patience).
👍
Spot on! Great comment. This is muscle memory for me now so I just assumed that everyone else knew this as well.
SEGA were never that great at translating arcade racing game controls to control pad for some reason (Sega Rally 1 & OG Daytona on Saturn excepted, which were amazing). Sometimes it felt like they never play tested their later racing game conversions properly before release.
It is odd to have such perfect controls in arcade and then to jank it up at home
My god, that music instantly gets me into the mood for some arcade racing action.
The soundtrack is so iconic. Some of Sega's best
Absolutely loved it when this got released on the Dreamcast. Bit tricky at first until you sort out the deadzone on the controller but if you use that crappy DC steering wheel it works like a charm. There's a widescreen mod you can use if you run it through Redream as well.
Yes there is def a learning curve to the handling but I kind of enjoy that
@@VideoGameEsoterica It's the same with F-Zero GX - you need to go into the controller settings and max-out the range on the stick, or else things are twitchy as hell with the insane sensitivity/deadzone. Spookily enough emulating the original Daytona USA requires the same controller tweaks. It's like they're all defaulted to steering wheel sensitivity, as @goonerlee found out.
F Zero always breaks my brain. That and wipeout
@@DaveFallows Yeah that's true. I've tried the DC Daytona, the ones running on Model 2 and the ones on Technoparrot and they all have that really sensitive steering. Scud Race too. I think it's something to do with some steering wheels turning a full 360 degrees and others only turning 180 but don't hold me to that. Funnily enough though the Daytona on Model 3 emulator can be tweaked and it works pretty good so who knows.
The steering in the boards themselves was designed for X degrees of rotation based on the cabinet hardware. If your wheel doesn’t match that it changes the feel
It's my favorite episode with Daytona 2! Extremely underrated, you can fix he controls in the options.
Yes the controls can be articulated nicely
One of my all time favorites. I was never bothered by the twitchy controls, but when i tried it with the original DC steering wheel, woow, it was night and day compared to the controller. Very close to the arcade feeling.
Yes it should basically be “wheel required”
I loved this game. I got it at release and used to play on a 21'' VGA monitor. Handling was very difficult until I unlocked the PYWACKETT BARCHETTA car. That changed everything for me. I could now drive normally. I have a couple of steering wheels for DC; the official one and a Thrustmaster wheel and pedals which are supposed to be very rare. An Ebay seller only wanted $25 for it boxed. Very impressive graphics at the time. And, Genki were so good. I miss them!
It looks so good on VGA too. One of the best IMO
@@VideoGameEsoterica
VGA was so good for Sega. Sega's troubles led to a drop in quality for Genki's games when Genki had to go from VGA to PS2's God-awful blurriness. It felt criminal to me.
PS2 was such a visual downgrade video quality wise. The “blurry” years
I'll be honest, Daytona USA and Sega Rally 2 on Dreamcast were two giant disappointments for me. Sega's decision to do another Daytona port rather than porting Daytona 2 made no sense, either. A lot of their decisions in the late 90's really baffled me, like the decision to save VF3 for the Dreamcast, making people wait 3 years to play it.
They aren’t perfect but I still love them
Sega did some very silly things in the 90s and some brilliant things. It was one or the other.
Fighters megamix was a damned good game. The Virtua Cop girl, was it Janet? Had a lot of Aoi Umenokoji's moves.
They still could have just made a version of VF3 using the VF2 engine sacrificing the different terrain levels and just adding the new characters and moves.
@@MGForums VF3 on the Saturn would have been incredible. And probably would have even sold systems.
what happens is that people don't know how to drive, they want to take a curve at 300 km/h
I mean we can’t do that in real life. May as well try in a game lol
@@VideoGameEsoterica
That song makes me so nostalgic
It’s pure Sega nostalgia no doubt
Sega should have set the default sensitivity setting to the left on the sensitivity slider in the options. Setting it where they did needlessly made a bad first impression on people.
Here are a few suggestions:
1) Move the sensitivity slider almost all the way to the left, maybe about two or three notches or so from the left. That's about where the default setting should be. See how well that works, then go back to the options to adjust the steering wheel afterwards if you still feel it's necessary. I typically keep the steering setting as is.
2) Certain cars are better suited to certain tracks. The Lightning, for example, works best with simple tracks while lighter cars work well with tracks that have several tight turns like Seaside Street Galaxy.
3) Selecting the right tires for the right cars also improves control and handling. The Lightning handles more easily with the softest tires.
4) The rear tires spin out when pressing the gas before the car straightens out on your racing line. They also spin out when pressing too far and too quickly on the gas, whether at the starting line or coming out of a turn. Let it get into position as you come out of a turn before accelerating and figure out how quickly to accelerate coming out of each turn. Several turns require feathering the gas and/or brakes. You should be able to get the spinning out under control.
All these steps together will help when practicing to figure out when and where to feather the gas and brakes and when to powerslide. Although the vehicle physics and handling aren't like the original, that's OK. They still have an arcade-like feel unlike Championship Circuit Edition. After awhile it played like a dream for me. I forgot about any comparison to the original as I could now appreciate and enjoy the vehicle handling on its own terms. This while using the Dreamcast controller. Heck, with practice, the Lightning might even be more controllable on some of the other tracks.
There is a rom hack with the original Daytona OST for the Dreamcast which makes it even better.
Ooh interesting. I’ll have to look for it
One thing that helped me with a controller was keeping the analogue stick up at the 12 o’clock direction when driving. It makes it easier to make subtle left/right turns.
thats always a pro move and I use it on some arcade games
One of those Dreamcast games that looked better than a lot of ps2 games.
I wish I still had my copy.
Too bad we didn't get Daytona 2 Dreamcast though. Give us what we want Sega!
Sega never gives fans what they want. It’s their revenge on us for Dreamcast failing
@@VideoGameEsoterica this is why I hope the Rumors Sega is Next for Microsoft after Activision are true. Papa Phil will get us what we want
Sega needs to be swallowed up by someone who wants them for their IP because Sega surely doesn’t seem to care about 95% of it
From what I've heard, Hasbro was involved with the publishing purely because they held some rights to the Daytona 500 license at the time.
You would be correct. PAL ended up being Infogrames for that.
Sega Worldwide Soccer 2001 also ended up becoming UEFA Dream Soccer and published by Infogrames to get a license applied too.
Licensing is always such a weird beast
Fun fact
Oddly enough, I've only really started getting into this game very recently, over the past 6 months or so. My interest in my DC was revitalized with the availability of component cables for the first time and DAMN does this game look fantastic on a CRT with component. While I agree that the controls are very twitchy at first, I do think you can adjust to them with the DC controller and default settings. That being said, this game is HARD when it comes to the more difficult sections...but you know, par for the course for Sega. I might have a bigger gripe with the controls if I were dedicated to 100 percenting this game, but as of now, I play it much more like you would in the arcade: casually in spurts of approximately 30 minutes or less. For that kind of gaming, this game is damn hard to beat.
Dreamcast is probably the best looking console on CRT IMO. I play on a VGA monitor and it just looks amazing
Strangely, I adjusted to the controls very quickly back in the day - within a few games, I was able to get similar lap times in Dino Canyon as in the arcade with similar drift shifting techniques. Control was not perfect, but definitely not as dire as reviewers made it out to be.
One thing I didnt like for sure was the weird shrink wrap look of the cars. Otherwise, really cool to have a NAOMI-fied Daytona USA
I mean some people just adjust quicker than others which totally makes sense :)
A part of me also feels like not all DC controllers are made equal - I have no proof of course.
Might just be down to general wear too
and maybe even some tear
Lolol
I just noticed a lot of scenery from the saturn version is missing here... like the train and roller coaster in the background 😢
They def cut some things out
These graphics for Daytona blew me away at the time it was the first new Dreamcast game I got after buying the console with Sonic Adventure, Sonic Shuffle and Jet Set Radio.
Daytona was a showpiece 40 cars on track 60fps it looks great still
It was definitely a pretty game
This is massively underrated. The Japanese handling is great when you turn the sensitivity down. It's just more like Scud Race where you can spin out easily if you overcook it.
Scud Race def will throw you into the wall or let your back end break loose if you push it too hard. It’ll punish the player
Is this like Daytona CCE where the Japanese handling was tweaked?
A but yes
I never understood why the cars in any Daytona game need to be twerking at all times. It always bugged me for some reason.
They just feel the rhythm and have got to dance 🤷🏻♂️
They just feel the rhythm and have got to dance 🤷🏻♂️
Same. Just looks stoopid 😅
Oops double post
Don't play with the joystick settings if you're having trouble with the controls
Start by giving yourself softer tires or choosing a different car
This remake was developed by Genki, who made some great games, but mostly developed budget games. They also did the notorious VF3tb Dreamcast port. So it seems like Sega wanted a quick and dirty rerelease of Daytona 1 for easy money and weren't too fussed about the quality. Also possible by then that Sega didn't have the source code of Daytona? So Genki would be replicating the handling by feel.
Genki was high and low in the Dreamcast era it seems
Parts of the game was in Daytona USA championship
A bit yes s
I love this game, but I can't get any of my model 1, 2 or three games to run on my SteamDeck 😢
Model 1 would be MAME and should work. 2 and 3 are windows only so you’d need to dial boot
This is game is one of the reasons why I keep the Dreamcast hooked up. Such a perfect pick up and play game but I suppose that’s the magic of the Sega Dreamcast ❤️
Yes it’s def one of those games you can play for ten minutes or two hours
This is the best Daytona game, especially when you unlock all the cars and learn to to drift and of course use a wheel no need to adjust the controls
A wheel is a def nice addition
My only con is that for the soundtrack. They didn’t port of “ the noisy roars of wilderness”. That songs wonderful.
They did leave some tracks out. Bad idea
I've never had any issues controlling this game on Dreamcast.
I simply always play on 1st - person mode, drive full speed, but when there is corner coming ahead, i let go gas completedty way advance, but not using brakes at all.
Always perfect turns this way.
This game is awesome!
I strongly recommend selecting 40 cars in for each race.
Where is Daytona USA 2 for Dreamcast???
-It would sell well, even if released today!
It would def sell a decent amount of copies to fans if Sega did a VERY late port lol
Curse you! LOL 🤣. I read the first part and was like "Daytona 2 on Dreamcast? YEEES YEEES!". I know I should read it better but the "hits dreamcast". I should have known better considering how different Naomi and MOdel 3 are :P .
Haha gotta read closer!
My dude, you (at least) could of mentioned that this game is back online!
Looking over the comments....doesn't seem like many know about this.
Just not something I addressed as I usually only talk about what I show. Maybe in a future video :)
This one is a strange one. It is definitely not a port of the arcade but rather a reimagining. That said, physics and controls at first might seem nothing like the arcade but the more you play the more you feel the DNA is there. Controls are a mess, but if you decrease sensitivity and adjust dead zones you can definitely play it with a pad. There's plenty of secret and unlockable content to keep you entertained. Although I hated this at first I ended up loving it to bits. Definitely a slow burn game.
Yes it just takes more time to get used to as it does change of the physics
great to have your thoughts on this one on the dreamcast.. it was my second fav arcade racer behind Sega rally..
My love for Sega Rally is large as well
I hated the controls but I applaud the effort to modernize it at the time. I've gotten more tolerant to the controls over the years but if I want to play Daytona i will play on my xbox.
It takes some getting used to but once you do it’s legit
I really enjoy this game a lot. The criticism for the default controls is definitely deserved but going in the settings and reducing the analog sensitivity by 50% makes it much better and plays better than Daytona CCE IMO
It was an odd default to...well...default to lol
I remember how AWFUL the controls were on this game. I could only keep my car on the road on the first track. HOWEVER, I spent many nights staying up to 4am playing online 😅😅
Gotta use a wheel. Sega designed the entire game around in. Which was probably not a great idea
It was always odd to me how Sega got the controls right with the first Saturn Daytona...but the graphics were awful. Then in Daytona CCE and Daytona 2001, they got the graphics right but screwed the controls. Why? How?
Sega does funny things sometimes. Only they seem to know why
@@VideoGameEsoterica Accurate! I do agree with you that 2001 was better than it gets credit for and I don't think it plays as badly as some people say that it does. It definitely isn't as tight as the arcade game (or that first Saturn port) though.
It’s better than it gets credit for and worst than it should have been all in the same package
I've always wanted to get into this but I just never have quite got the feel for the cars
It takes a minute and its MUCH better with a wheel
I think Daytona USA and Ridge Racer are my favorite racing games.
Two classics. Namco knew what they were doing with racing games too
I played the DC version for years on pad with default settings. I did not know until a couple years ago that you could adjust the conteols. Still not great but way more playable.
With that said, I have played the Xbox 350 (XBLA) version far more than any other other version. I believe it's since been delisted, however if you already own it it's backwards compatible and looks and plays great on my Xbox Series X.
Its such a bummer Sega delists the games. Becomes harder and harder every year to just play some of these Sega classics
As for the music, totally agree, without Takenobu Mitsuyoshi singing? It wouldn't be a SEGA racer from the mid till late 90s :P .
It’s an odd choice for sure
@@VideoGameEsoterica Love the guy, even these days, he's a massive walking advertisement for SEGA :) . Whether he's in his "creepy uncle cosplay", in more serious garments or just is silly. The guy's a hoot :) .
He def seems like he’s living his best life that’s for sure
@@VideoGameEsoterica
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I mean, SEGA always had interesting characters, but he really stands out.
But then this is the company that had the "SST band" whom later became "Blind Spot" after they retired and are still performing LOL .
One of these is a 20 minute documentary, it has subtitles :). The documentary is actually quite interesting :).
But he still does regular podcasts as well :P .
Imagine ANYBODY at Sony or Nintendo doing this and still being employed! Only Microsoft had a few that were a bit, odd, but none came close to this. And with Microsoft it's often just Cringe XD .
Dude is just on send in the best way possible
Yeah, this version never really hit with me. It's not "bad", but I don't love it either, and I absolutely love Daytona USA. Not great Daytona is still good, but good isn't Daytona. Daytona is a masterpiece to me.
It’s def the lesser of the two versions for sure
Genki was involved with this port, and their racing games have this extreme twitchiness. but I really do like this port, to be honest.
They do tend to be a bit twitchy
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Fantastic series.
Glad you are enjoying it!
Uploaded 9 seconds ago? I'm in 😅
lolol...thats just the publish time. Uploaded like four months ago
Man do we ever need a Daytona compilation!
SEGA had good intentions with the Ages ports, but just doing the wrong games. Also what's the deal with Virtua Racing only being on Switch? Oh, SEGA...
and sadly I doubt we will ever get it
@VideoGameEsoterica Like you've said, we should stop expecting Sega to do anything gamers want.
Thats the smart thinking lol. Sad but true
What about the 360 port ?
Great game but indeed the twitchy analog controls can ruin it if you don't customize them in some way.
Yes it does require some customization to get dialed in
Western releases at 3rd sensitivity make it play pretty close to the original.
Its so weird that the shadows don't map to the car on the emulation footage. It's kinda jarring lol
Bit of an oddity for sure
I've never really warmed to this port; the controls borderline spoil it for me. I think you can deaden the twitchiness on some racing wheels (which might help), but it's better in the arcade and even the 360/PS3 ports. Holding out hope for some sort of game-hack where someone "corrects" the controls.
Yes the controls do have a learning curve. Its def a game best played with a wheel
@@VideoGameEsoterica I bought a wheel specifically to play this port of the game, but it still didn't feel right. I'll give it another go one day; great video as always. By the way; tried the recent Daytona Championship USA (2017) in an arcade a few weeks ago and that didn't feel right either 🤣
Play around with the settings in the options menu. You can change the feel around a bit. 2017 is a fun but flawed game for sure
I've played the arcade version Daytona USA and now if I really want to play it I am forced to play it via emulation.
Most people are sadly
SUCH a shame it wasn't daytona usa 2 ....
also wasn't daytona usa either because physics where nowhere like it , played a lot but it's a frustrating experience that demands dedication
the physics were changed
@@VideoGameEsoterica let's just say butchered
Some people would agree for sure
Hopefully one day we'll get a definitive home release
We need a Daytona compilation for modern systems
@@VideoGameEsotericait could happen if Sega gets back the rights or rerelease them under a new name like they did with Sega Racing Classic, but I’m afraid only Daytona USA will be ported since it’s the most popular and well known of the series. I’d be happy if at least they rereleased the PC ports of Daytona USA and Championship Circuit upgraded to run on a modern PC and various improvements so that it could be modded to include more content from the other games of the series
But they won’t. It’s Sega after all lol
@@VideoGameEsoterica The only hope is that fans do the same that they're doing with Sega Rally and make a remake by themselves. If you don't know there's a Sega Rally fan remake called Over Jump Rally that recreates the original arcade game in Unreal Engine 5 that is currently being made for the PC.
Yes that’s probably the only way we will see stuff like this in the future
Really bad with the controller on the Dreamcast. But with my Mad Catz Racing Wheel it is a dream come true. The best Daytona Home Version you can have. Maybe the best version at all.
The wheel is where it’s at for sure
Great way to start my morning seeing VGE in action. Time to have my Bacon & Eggs breakfast to enjoy this from you bro. 8^)
Anthony...
No lasagna breakfast? At least it’s not Monday
Substance is everything and twitchy cars doesn't make for great gameplay. I have also hated the way that the rear of the vehicle bounces up and down, which is annoyingly frustrated on the eyes.
Suspension is in the club lol
I had this when it came out and thought it was bad bought it again if you knock the sensitivity down pick right tyres it's a bad ass perfect arcade racer the dogs bollocks
The dogs bollocks. Always a charming expression
And I meant that in a positive way :)
I thought it was odd how everyone praised the arcade original but when I downloaded on PS3 I thought it was ass compared to the Dreamcast version
Freakin LOVED Daytona USA in the arcade. Passionately hated every single port.
That's fair. Some people just dont love them
My thoughts on Daytona 2001
- Looks great if not arcade accurate
- Most of the extra tracks are meh
- Sound/music adequate
- horrible controls
Bout how I see it
control is indeed horrible.indeed
I hope someday a hacker will fix this issue
There is a widescreen hack already and also a arcade music hack.
But the controls... I have no idea what happened here
Just gotta use a wheel AND adjust in options. A lot of doing
Man the complaints about the controls in this are over the top. It's not that bad. Drop the sensitivity and practice a bit...
Otherwise the game is fantastic!
It’s a valid issue but one that’s easy to overcome
I only don't play this one because the reflections on that car are catching my eyes at an annoying rate
An interesting issue but hey…no judgements :)
I hate the car designs of the Daytona USA Dreamcast version!! Why didn't they made them like the original ones but better graphics? They look amorphous
I’m not sure why they felt the need to redesign them
The thirst for improved 3D graphics was immense at the time and Daytona USA was not that impressive anymore against 2000s racing games.
Yeah but why like this? It's awful@@SP95
Improvements were coming fast back then for sure
Just how it was
Online play works now. Only on real dreamcasts for now.
Sega. Why didn’t they just port this game to the arcade. Daytona championship USA sucks!!!!
Love this game. Works with a wheel.
I may do an online video one day
It's 100% made for the DC wheel, all the twitchiness will be gone if you can get your hands on one. Hated this on release but with the DC wheel the handling will be pretty close to the original and for me went from disappointing to possibly contender for best DC racer. If you've ever emulated an Arcade racing game that doesn't have pad support that's how Daytona USA 2001 plays on DC, like the devs made zero concession for pad players (iirc the sensitivity setting in the western version was added because of complaints after the NTSCJ version released). Also, there's a version of this that has the arcade OST modded back in, worth hunting it down. If you do get a DC wheel then look up the Ben Ryves 'de-deadzone mod' it elevates the racing experience a lot
Which was a big design mistake to target wheel over analog controller knowing the install base
@@VideoGameEsoterica Absolutely, one of the strangest decisions I've ever seen and it should have been tuned for both the controller and wheel play with controller as priority. The strangest part is that Sega perfectly translated the F355 Arcade steering wheel handling on Dreamcast, showing they were more than capable/aware that pad controls need consideration
It seems like a “Ran out of time…ship it” decision
Graphically it’s far superior to the Saturn release
oh absolutely lol
I don't like the shiny cars and the sensation of speed is absent. School Zone USA is what this should be called.
Lol dunno if I’d call it a school zone myself
. Its not that the game isn't good for you it's that your not good at the game. This game is superb for skillful gamers perhaps you have toe thumbs .
Toe thumbs huh? What would that even look like