I ran the cascade link for almost a year with a super deluxe ultimate air. I ran the 38 up front with 170. It was pretty easy to set the suspension up with it being air and clicking dials. The bike was fast and rode big. I went back to the stock link after warrantying my front triangle and riding more regular trail. But, the link is back on. I love running it in the 160mm configuration. Less pedal strikes, and much better traction in the rear
Glad to hear your liking it too! I've been riding mine for a bit now and I like it! It makes the bike track better for sure. And to be honest, it doesn't make the bike feel much bigger in my opinion. So far, I'm liking the link and the increase in travel on the fork, but only time will tell what I think about it after I get some more riding in on it.
I have a v4 nomad. I’m leaning towards getting the CC link for it. The shock is the old superdeluxe air. I already have the fork at 180. My main goal is to stay higher in the travel and avoid pedal strikes
If your looking to up the travel, and progressivity to the bike, then the Cascade link is a good option. I have limited ride time on mine and have yet to fully diel it in yet. But even just the fist ride I felt it. I don't think the link increases BB Hight on neither the Bronson nor Nomad, so that won't change. But it will help with mid stroke support do to the linkage curve with the CL.
I have a Nomad with the CC link. You definitely have to increase the the spring rate by quite a bit due to the increased leverage. I’m 175# and on a 600# spring. The link on the Nomad is great overall. The only downsides is the increase in chainstay length making it harder to lift the front wheel, and with increasing the travel in the rear, you will also get more pedal strikes when deep in the travel. Other than that, the link is totally awesome. But for sure, increase your spring rate by 50-100# if on a Fox SLS coil. It’s gonna take you a while to really dial everything in. But once you do, you’ll be stoked!
I figured that out quickly... Whenever I increased spring rate with the Springdex, it just felt better, and better. I have since added an EXT Storia LOK V3 to the bike, and when I had it tuned for the link, they said I would want a #500 spring and I'm 165lbs. So far, with one ride, it feels well supported, but still a bit harsh. I have a lot going on with this bike and setup so it makes sense that it is taking longer then I'm used too, to get this bike feeling the way I want it too. All part of the process though. Throughout the years of me trying to tune my fork and shock, I'm getting to the point where I sort of know what I'm doing. Makes tuning a lot more enjoyable and faster 😅
@@thebigoutsidemtb I have a Ext Storia V3 on my Bronson V4 standard at 150mm and in bike parks on braking bumps the rear does not bother me at all, only the front end, so im also thinking of going to 170mm, but front only.
@@jonibz1456 Honestly. I wouldn't bump up the front for braking bumps. It wont not do much. Breaking bumps are more of a sensitivity thing, not a travel thing. If you have already played around with the settings, I would look into the Luftkappe. It helped a lot with the suspension curve on my 36, and now my 38. What it does, is it changes the curve of the fork to make it more supple off the top (good for breaking bumps) and ramps up more at the end of the stroke to help with support and bottom out. Something else to keep in mind, you can never fully eliminate breaking bumps with suspension, but you can help it.
@@thebigoutsidemtb Interesting! Thanks for the info. I currently have a EXT Era V2 on the front with burnished bushings, which have made it the best I can get it so far, I notice a difference in every click, the rebound is definitely where it should be, also the HSC and LSC. The main tweaking comes from playing with the air pressure in the main chamber. They have a 2.1 update which I may go for on its next service, which makes the negative chamber slightly bigger which if I remember right is kind of what the luftkapp does. So this may help. To be honest the fork was working really quite well on light constant breaking bumps, but would transfer the energy if there would suddenly be a couple of deep ones. Also I did feel with this fork I could do with a extra click of HSR, which it does not have, if I put one click faster on the rebound, the bumps did not feel so great, but I would get a little more pop on jumps. Maybe I can ask the service guys todo something internal with that, I’m already on a light tune due to my low riding weight.
It’d be interesting to do a demo day at ucsc with a Nomad to compare once you dial in your Bromad, then you’d know how they truly all stack up. Personally love my gypsum color Nomad and the new dark blue is ok. Actually looks good once wrapped, same with any of the matte SC frame like your gold the metal flake pops more once wrapped but the yellow is gross and gypsum still the best they had.
I should. I've been meaning to try a Nomad. Once I get this dialed in, maybe I will demo one and make a video on it. Could make for an interesting, useful video. The Gypsum color kinda grew on me, I kinda like it! Blue looks alright like you said. Yes! Once I wrapped my Bronson it just made the color POP! Love the look.
I went Bromad....then back again. I didn't love how much longer the Cascade link makes the chainstay.....6mm! Same as an XL size bike on my medium. The 170mm fork messed with tight corners but Im sure I would have gotten used to it... I'm running a coil with a 65mm stroke....no CL...gives the bike 162mm of rear travel.... without any geo changes.
I’ll be honest. I feel it in tight corners too. But for what I ride, it seemed like it benefits me a good deal. Also, I swear you are the guy I bought the Fox 38 air spring from on Pink Bike? The story sounds the exact same.
@@BIGsys Honestly. I can feel the length in tight turns. But climbing wise, I can’t feel it on the climbing. If it affects climbing it so minor that 98% of riders won’t feel it. BTW, I’m on a size L. Not M.
@@thebigoutsidemtb Wow are you running Max Hypersmooth cuz usually when I use the Chest Mount, my footage looks shaky, even if I put Auto-Hypersmooth which is weird.
@@rohitsengupta979 I run it at the normal Hypersmooth. No boost. I would recommend tightening your chesty more. Makes a huge difference. Also, are you recording in lower light? Like afternoon.
yo, you should try an ext shock I got one for my Yeti it is actually way better than a DHX2. the small bump sensitivity is super good but it still has insane support.
That's so funny you say that. Because I just replaced the DHX2 with a custom tuned EXT Storia LOK 3. I only have one ride on it so far so impressions are, eh. It's a good shock, but needs a lot of tuning. The buddy that sold it to me said it's one of those shocks that takes a lot of playing around, but once it tuned, it's good!
@@thebigoutsidemtb yea it's my little hobby servicing and tuning suspension so I took it as a no brainer but it is still a lot of work it took me about two whole days of riding back to back to set up but it is amazing once you do it
@@thebigoutsidemtb you need to get the Ext Storia serviced and they will change the shim stack etc for you bike and riding style, if you brought it of a friend, it will be set up for him and his bike, it makes big difference when its tuned for you, the clickers on it is only half the story.
@@SoEnduroBro It's a sick drop once you get it! BTW, I will be posting some videos on this on Patreon. You can also DM me and I'll hook you up with where it might be. I just don't want to be giving out location publicly.
@@thebigoutsidemtb I totally understand and is great that your that way not just putting out the location everywhere. I will DM you if that’s cool. Thanks
Well, personal preference I guess. Don't get me wrong, I liked the oxblood. But I think I like the gold a bit better. 🙂 Also, the oxblood came on the old Nomad, so doesn't count... I was talking the new, updated stuff.
I ran the cascade link for almost a year with a super deluxe ultimate air. I ran the 38 up front with 170. It was pretty easy to set the suspension up with it being air and clicking dials. The bike was fast and rode big. I went back to the stock link after warrantying my front triangle and riding more regular trail.
But, the link is back on. I love running it in the 160mm configuration. Less pedal strikes, and much better traction in the rear
Glad to hear your liking it too! I've been riding mine for a bit now and I like it! It makes the bike track better for sure. And to be honest, it doesn't make the bike feel much bigger in my opinion. So far, I'm liking the link and the increase in travel on the fork, but only time will tell what I think about it after I get some more riding in on it.
I have a v4 nomad. I’m leaning towards getting the CC link for it. The shock is the old superdeluxe air. I already have the fork at 180. My main goal is to stay higher in the travel and avoid pedal strikes
If your looking to up the travel, and progressivity to the bike, then the Cascade link is a good option. I have limited ride time on mine and have yet to fully diel it in yet. But even just the fist ride I felt it. I don't think the link increases BB Hight on neither the Bronson nor Nomad, so that won't change. But it will help with mid stroke support do to the linkage curve with the CL.
I have a Nomad with the CC link. You definitely have to increase the the spring rate by quite a bit due to the increased leverage. I’m 175# and on a 600# spring. The link on the Nomad is great overall. The only downsides is the increase in chainstay length making it harder to lift the front wheel, and with increasing the travel in the rear, you will also get more pedal strikes when deep in the travel. Other than that, the link is totally awesome. But for sure, increase your spring rate by 50-100# if on a Fox SLS coil. It’s gonna take you a while to really dial everything in. But once you do, you’ll be stoked!
I figured that out quickly... Whenever I increased spring rate with the Springdex, it just felt better, and better. I have since added an EXT Storia LOK V3 to the bike, and when I had it tuned for the link, they said I would want a #500 spring and I'm 165lbs. So far, with one ride, it feels well supported, but still a bit harsh. I have a lot going on with this bike and setup so it makes sense that it is taking longer then I'm used too, to get this bike feeling the way I want it too. All part of the process though. Throughout the years of me trying to tune my fork and shock, I'm getting to the point where I sort of know what I'm doing. Makes tuning a lot more enjoyable and faster 😅
@@thebigoutsidemtb I have a Ext Storia V3 on my Bronson V4 standard at 150mm and in bike parks on braking bumps the rear does not bother me at all, only the front end, so im also thinking of going to 170mm, but front only.
@@jonibz1456 Honestly. I wouldn't bump up the front for braking bumps. It wont not do much. Breaking bumps are more of a sensitivity thing, not a travel thing. If you have already played around with the settings, I would look into the Luftkappe. It helped a lot with the suspension curve on my 36, and now my 38. What it does, is it changes the curve of the fork to make it more supple off the top (good for breaking bumps) and ramps up more at the end of the stroke to help with support and bottom out. Something else to keep in mind, you can never fully eliminate breaking bumps with suspension, but you can help it.
@@thebigoutsidemtb Interesting! Thanks for the info. I currently have a EXT Era V2 on the front with burnished bushings, which have made it the best I can get it so far, I notice a difference in every click, the rebound is definitely where it should be, also the HSC and LSC. The main tweaking comes from playing with the air pressure in the main chamber.
They have a 2.1 update which I may go for on its next service, which makes the negative chamber slightly bigger which if I remember right is kind of what the luftkapp does. So this may help.
To be honest the fork was working really quite well on light constant breaking bumps, but would transfer the energy if there would suddenly be a couple of deep ones.
Also I did feel with this fork I could do with a extra click of HSR, which it does not have, if I put one click faster on the rebound, the bumps did not feel so great, but I would get a little more pop on jumps. Maybe I can ask the service guys todo something internal with that, I’m already on a light tune due to my low riding weight.
What bike computer do you have? Sick vid 🤟🏽
It's a Garmin edge 530. Love it!
It’d be interesting to do a demo day at ucsc with a Nomad to compare once you dial in your Bromad, then you’d know how they truly all stack up. Personally love my gypsum color Nomad and the new dark blue is ok. Actually looks good once wrapped, same with any of the matte SC frame like your gold the metal flake pops more once wrapped but the yellow is gross and gypsum still the best they had.
I should. I've been meaning to try a Nomad. Once I get this dialed in, maybe I will demo one and make a video on it. Could make for an interesting, useful video.
The Gypsum color kinda grew on me, I kinda like it! Blue looks alright like you said.
Yes! Once I wrapped my Bronson it just made the color POP! Love the look.
I went Bromad....then back again. I didn't love how much longer the Cascade link makes the chainstay.....6mm! Same as an XL size bike on my medium. The 170mm fork messed with tight corners but Im sure I would have gotten used to it... I'm running a coil with a 65mm stroke....no CL...gives the bike 162mm of rear travel.... without any geo changes.
I’ll be honest. I feel it in tight corners too. But for what I ride, it seemed like it benefits me a good deal. Also, I swear you are the guy I bought the Fox 38 air spring from on Pink Bike? The story sounds the exact same.
How does a longer chainstay (XL size on M) affect the ride or pedal quality?
@@BIGsys Honestly. I can feel the length in tight turns. But climbing wise, I can’t feel it on the climbing. If it affects climbing it so minor that 98% of riders won’t feel it. BTW, I’m on a size L. Not M.
Yooo sick vid! I was wondering what your new camera set up is and how you are able to carry your damm speed down vert and wiz like that 😂
Thanks man 🤙Same Hero 12 Black camera and everything, just on the chest mount.
@@thebigoutsidemtb Wow are you running Max Hypersmooth cuz usually when I use the Chest Mount, my footage looks shaky, even if I put Auto-Hypersmooth which is weird.
@@rohitsengupta979 I run it at the normal Hypersmooth. No boost. I would recommend tightening your chesty more. Makes a huge difference. Also, are you recording in lower light? Like afternoon.
I love my nomad c!
I love your vids
yo, you should try an ext shock I got one for my Yeti it is actually way better than a DHX2. the small bump sensitivity is super good but it still has insane support.
That's so funny you say that. Because I just replaced the DHX2 with a custom tuned EXT Storia LOK 3. I only have one ride on it so far so impressions are, eh. It's a good shock, but needs a lot of tuning. The buddy that sold it to me said it's one of those shocks that takes a lot of playing around, but once it tuned, it's good!
I personally think the DHX2 is a great shock with the correct weight spring. Setup is key.
@@thebigoutsidemtb yea it's my little hobby servicing and tuning suspension so I took it as a no brainer but it is still a lot of work it took me about two whole days of riding back to back to set up but it is amazing once you do it
@@thebigoutsidemtb you need to get the Ext Storia serviced and they will change the shim stack etc for you bike and riding style, if you brought it of a friend, it will be set up for him and his bike, it makes big difference when its tuned for you, the clickers on it is only half the story.
@@jonibz1456 I did just that. They have it tuned for the bike and the link. It feels amazing ever since. Super happy with it.
What trail is that drop on? Not sure I know that one.
Can’t say much. But a hint is “jungle”.
@@thebigoutsidemtb No I get it. I will do some scouting. Thanks man. 🤙🏽
@@SoEnduroBro It's a sick drop once you get it! BTW, I will be posting some videos on this on Patreon. You can also DM me and I'll hook you up with where it might be. I just don't want to be giving out location publicly.
@@thebigoutsidemtb I totally understand and is great that your that way not just putting out the location everywhere. I will DM you if that’s cool. Thanks
What year is this bad boy ? 2022?
Yessir! 2022.
Is it a carbon c or cc build ? I might get one but the colors are wack ! Maybe matte black like the dark knight lol
@@bodybycalithenics5198 C. You can also get anything 2022+ if you don't care to much about the glove box.
@@thebigoutsidemtb yeah true ! Thanks !
I’m out in Watsonville we should get a ride in soon . I hit highway 9 all the time
@@thebigoutsidemtb is it carbon c s build ?
Do you currently have a progressive spring on the ext?
No. Just the EXT coil.
@@thebigoutsidemtb ok, good. Volume spacers in air cans and progressive coils are a no go with the already progressive link
This is not a better color than oxblood, dude. Please 🤣
Well, personal preference I guess. Don't get me wrong, I liked the oxblood. But I think I like the gold a bit better. 🙂
Also, the oxblood came on the old Nomad, so doesn't count... I was talking the new, updated stuff.