6 Reasons Why I Sold My Lumix S1H and Bought an S5 in 2022 | Lumix S5 Cinematic | Lumix S5 Low Light
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
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Today we are talking about why I switched from the Lumix S1H to the S5. and also why I chose the S5 over other cameras. What do you all think of the Lumix S5?
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What do you guys think of the Lumix S5?
I think it is pretty
Lol it is!
I think it’s a great camera and I’ll probably buy it a 3rd time lol the first time I returned it so I could get an s1 instead and the second time I traded it to you lol
@@ChrisFlores22 and I appreciate that trade good sir!
I have both an S5 and S1H. If I had to choose just one I’d go with the S1H. It has more features that come in handy: I frames vs L frames internal, 5.9 k vs 4k, unlimited recording duration, ability to lower volume by more than 12 dB, synchro scan, better handling of moire, better Ibis, better heat management, articulating/flip up screen, way better evf, longer battery life to name a few reasons. That being said, the S5 is nice and small by comparison and produces an equal and slightly sharper image (no AA filter). It is a great travel or everyday camera. It works well on a small gimbal too.
I just shot a feature on the S5. I shot into the Ninja so I was getting FULL FRAME, 5.9k Prores RAW, 422 at 12 bit. The image is poetry. I have shot high end Red and Arris and at 422 12 bit this camera stands up with the best of them, in fact I much prefer full frame to Super 35. We shot 16 hour days for 25 days in mixed conditions and I did not have to think about the camera once, flawless performance. I could consider up[grading to the S5MkII X for the back up redundancy of the internal codecs which would offer back up for the Ninja, and the enhanced IBIS that would back up the Ronan gimbal, but man am I blown away by the original S5. I got an open box deal for 1,400 (the Ninja cost 400) and those "old" S5's are even cheaper now because of the S5Mk II's. You have to pay extra for the RAW out put on the S5MkII, apparently, which seems odd, but regardless, the best bang for your buck by a long mark. Fabulous little beast.
444 12-bit, not 422
No one likes a smart ass. haha. But you are right, of course, it is 444. Good call. @@valkiron11
As someone that is an S5 shooter, you did a fantastic job explaining the value of the Lumix S5. Cheers
I should do the opposit ahahah! Moving from the S5 to the S1H 🤟🏻
Cheers mate!
As a newly S5 owner I am so happy to watch this video
I fully intended to stick with my GH5, G85 and GX85 kit until at least next year, but then I got a steal of a deal on a lightly used S5 with kit lens, cage, 3 original batteries, and other goodies in May. My short review: it is without a doubt the best value out there when it comes to hybrid cameras. I'll probably end up with a second one before long.
It really is one of the best value for camera on the market.
Both awesome camera's! I still use my S1H as "main" camera and traded my GH5 for the S5 for B-roll and quick handheld shots. Image quality on both camera's is great but when all rigged out I still do prefer the S1H.
S5 is one of the most underrated camera.
However, I prefer ProRes RAW with FCPX + "Wide Gamut HDR" color space - that is phenomenal.
DFD Auto Focus works very well when I use ProRes RAW 4.1K 60p. No idea why this is not mentioned anywhere.
Interesting! I switched from FCPX a while ago and haven’t looked back, but that is good to note!
Lol I just watched your video on why you chose the S1H over the S5 from a year ago... I'll check back in a year i guess :p
Hahaha I mean that statement is generally true regardless of previous videos. Honestly I loved the s1h but seeing that the image performance was similar, and I wasn’t using the camera for productions, that made it make more sense to go with the little sibling of the s1h
Thanks for video! Realy like colours in your videos. What filter do you use? Mist or something else?
Thanks! If there is any diffusion it is one of the following - black pro mist 1/4, firecrest black supermist 1/4 or clear supermist 1/8 (maybe 1/4)
I bought the S5 back in Dec 2021 mainly because of the size. My option was an S1 with 24-105 f4 and the S5 [body], priced the same... I picked the S5 [and manage to haggle 2 extra batteries]. The only thing I don't like about it was the hand feel and the shutter button. It feels like a handful and at the same time the grip feels shallow to me. The shutter button feels mushy. Totally disregardable since it's almost 100% on my gimbal.
I can see your point on the hand grip, I like it personally but it’s definitely different.
On your content creation needs, what are the annoyances you usually experience when filming with the S5? Maybe for photography as well, if you have the time to elaborate.
I got an used S5 to have a camera with mechanical shutter for photography (as I have lots of L-mount lenses) . I also thought I would need the IBIS for video, but so far I'm using my Sigma fp for almost everything (no gimbal). Size matters
Size definitely matters. Even if I’m rigging up a camera, a lighter can effect the overall weight of the rig and so if I can shed weight, I’m here for it!
I love my S5 !
Is there a notable quality difference between prores raw & braw in your opinion?
Hey Anson
S5 is the best hybrid IMHO for the price.
Sorry but autofocus with prime like S35mm S50 nailed it 95% of the time for me you need to dial Area+ mode and try shooting highframe 50-60fps and it will work fine but most of the time as well with Braw 5.9 k because probably it has more computing power left because Video Assist is doing the heavy lifting …
But that is my speculation.
Overly happy with it did one gig today Fotos and Video...because S5 does pretty great photos with Panasonic prime...Happy that you are enjoying it and SQ 120 because the FF sensor is full and not crop even with 1080p I have very good image of it.
The Anamorphic Open gate is kind of downer for me but probably it has limited processing power to do 3/2 open gate mode.
Lately I rediscover my 2 GH5 and using them a lot in open gate mode to do multiple format content creation...still a beast for that...you don't need a GH6 probably GH5 with super fast prime is enough...
My biggest problem is data management because I have so many multicam concert project that I am drowning in data...last day of shooting ended with 6 TB of footage and I shoot mostly Q5 and long GOP 150,200 on Panasonic and still I had at the end of the day all my SSD,SD even ended shooting with V30...by the way in Q5 my BMPCC6K accept the new EVO plus Samsung 512 gb SD card without drop frame...which is normally not possible or was not possible because you need at least V60 cards to make it work.
Anyway data management sucks...just bought a 14TB HDD drive to Archive the projects...
exactly ,i bought 85 1.8 from lumix instead of sigma 1.4 . and on an event i nailed my focus most of time in difficult lighting situations with lot of light changes. That sony would struggle.
AF is important for me only if i put on gimbal and 50 85 from lumix ar lightweight lenses also. Really good for run and gun.
Add now they added other lesnes + sigma adding 24 & 20 1.4 .
I bought a s5 used for 1200 $ now i think its really good to buy it there is good lenses from lumix/sigma it's not same as 2 years ago.
I even bought meike T2.1 35mm that gives me such a good render .
My only downside is that contrary to GH6 if a new S5 got same processor as gh6 we would have 4K 120 fps without crop. If they release a s5 with that i would buy it instantly if it's under 2000$ and also they should add a 1440 p resolution . you either shoot in 1080 or 4K.
What color profiles are you usually shooting in ? Digging your content. Would love a video on the s1h compared to the sigma fp.
I see you use that tt artisan lense too. I'm getting more into vintage Canon fds as I believe they give a diff look
100% v log with a custom LUT. I have sold the s1h in favor of the s5 but there will be s5 vs fp content soon.
Canon FDs are great!
@@Ansonandco looking forward to it!
Well, i only need one reason not to swap my S1h for an S5: image quality. The S5 is really nice and small, but doesn’t deliver the same IQ. I did a comparison when the S5 came out.
Yes! I wish I had this camera 😉
Oh hang on! I DO!!
Yeah you do! S5 BROS!
Pav!!! S5 legends in the comments here!
I use S5 with ninja v. It's a power house. I love it.
Oh that PL feature is crazy 😮 I did not know that.
Right?! The FP, FP L, S5 and S1H all have it. And TECHNICALLY I think you can do the same thing with Sigma’s EF adapter
@@Ansonandco That is such good news! Thank you Anson
No problem!
I thought much about switching to the S1H from my S5 for the Open gate mode filming for 9:16 and 16:9. this mode is not just a s1H feature.
Where can I find the LUT you used in this one? I really want to buy it
It’s a custom LUT, hoping to have it ready to sell by the end of the year!
Please do sigma fp vs s5, both raw and h.264!
Nice work! Was thinking about doing the same, main reason for lightness, but will I still get the amazing dynamic range with S5, how does it compare to the S1H
The s1h definitely has better DR. How much more? I’m not sure exactly since I haven’t done a side by side on it, but the s1h is definitely better
@@Ansonandco Thank you! I'll keep working out my shoulders:)
So basically just the size made you switch, as all other features are present in the S1H as well 😅
Size, price and frame guides. As I stated in the video. The frame guides could have been a firmware update on the s1h, but the price and size were the bigger motivating factors. I didn’t want $4k wrapped up in a camera I was using for just product shots.
@@Ansonandco fair enough :)
I was stoked to make the exchange happen! But now I do kinda miss the s5 lol if I end up getting an s5 it will be the 3rd time I buy it lol I’ve bought and sold it twice already for exchanging to an s1 and now s1h
@@ChrisFlores22 I've sold my S5 for an S1 more than a year ago. The better IBIS and full size HDMI make me never regret my decision :)
@@DavidHorizonFilms yeah for sure. I love my s1 & s1h. S5 would be a clutch gimbal camera in my workflow
Hi, you mention that you use the Sigma FP for filmmaking scenarios, REALLY? Better than the S5 for filmmaking? Cheers!
It offers a far superior codec and data rate for sure
Nice video mate, S5 club Ftw 😂
@joshcameron thank you for your channel! Your AF settings video gave me the confidence to switch over to lumix from Sony and now I don’t even bother with AF lol 😂
Josh! What’s up man? I’ve been watching your s5 content for some time now. We will have to you, me and Pav SZ together to do a bigger collab
Hey Chris! That’s awesome, thanks so much for watching and welcome to the elite club 😂 and yes for sure Anson, I’d be so up for that! Been watching your vids for some time now as well 🙌🏼
@@JoshCameron the 3 way collab no one thought was possible. Let’s go!!
I didn't know that you were S5 guy Josh 😉
29:59 recording limit internally in 10bit 4K. That's why any camera with that cripple hammer is out of the question for me in 2022.
Im really really need a video comparation for the Sigma FP vs Lumix s5
Stay tuned! I got a couple of lenses needing reviews. But there will be some FP VS S5 videos sprinkled in there. I am probably do a short series of different aspects and maybe a longer overall review at the end of the series
It's easy enough to own both. If you want to put a 2nd camera on sticks, hit record, and walk away (no time limits), the S1H is the answer. Otherwise, they're functionally the same.
Absolutely!
Nice Sir🙂
Thanks Ajay!
do you think the micro hdmi will be a deal breaker? I currently own a sony a6400 and wanted to upgrade, but the micro hdmi bothers me cause in my sony, the port has been already damaged and not so reliable. same reason why i hesitated to get the sigma fp
Don’t get me wrong. I HATE micro HDMI, but honestly if you get a solids clamp, or even a right angle cable, it should help. I put up with it on the FP because I love the camera for everything else it can do. Same with the s5
@@Ansonandco Thank youuuu!
@@Ansonandco I use a chunky right angle curly cable. Seems more sturdy than the clamp to me.
@@elementary8963 I’ve moved to a right angle cable and definitely agree
I love my s5, it’s such a great camera.
I’m looking to buy a (cine) lens for night shoots, but I can’t find any, do you have recommendations? (My budget is around 600 dollars)
Look at the Meike lenses
Hey quick question, does the Lumix family have true 24fps like the FP or just 23.98? I've been thinking of picking up the BS1H and true 24 would be great.
It is set to 23.98. Unfortunately it does not offer a true 24FPS. The BS1H looks like an amazing camera and so definitely worth the consideration but alas no true 24FPS
is it really even noticable?
@Jerimiah Cook: Vlogumentaries there ya go! I was looking at the s5. Good to know. Thanks for checking
@@noureddinehasan Yes. For sound reasons. Syncing. Etc.
@Jerimiah Cook: Vlogumentaries Oh cool. That pushes me one step closer to taking the dive. Thanks!
I'm using S1
I want to buy 2nd body
S5 or sony 7iv
Tel me why I pic S5 than 7iv
Af also important to me
Budget is not a metter between these two
The s1 has the same AF as the s5? Do you plan on replacing the s1? I would personally go with the s5 for color matching and image matching. But that’s me.
I use S5 and a7IV and the colours match pretty well in log. I use the same luts on footage from both. 😉
I had the S5 and A7iv at the same time. VLOG > SLOG. The A7iv was just not as easy to use, so I sold it and bought a used S1H to pair with my S5. If you really care what most 'other' youtubers and creators think, get the Sony.
@@HGQjazz I also have both. I think the S5 is one of the easiest to use cameras. You can pick it up and play with it any everything makes sense. The monitor resolution is much better. The touch screen and IBIS is better. I still use my A7iv but my S5 is my boy!
we need s5 mark ii
4k 60p no crop like the a7siii
That would be dope! And full size HDMI
I'm currently confused to taking a S5 or FX30 for the similar price range 😢
What matters more, full frame or autofocus?
Is the AF that bad?
It’s not the greatest but it’s also not the worst
Open gate is available in video mode?
I haven’t tested it, but I believe so
No, open gate is only for S1/S1H.
@@slows728 there is absolutely a 4:3 mode on the s5. It’s not in the recording quality menu like the s1h, but it’s there. It also crops into APS-C
@@Ansonandco But open gate is not a 4:3 mode.
Open gate is the way to record the full sensor (on the GH5 or GH6 open gate is 4:3 because the sensor is 4:3). Open gate on a full frame camera like the S5 is 3:2 and record 6K because the sensor is 6K. The "6K" mode of the S5 is not 6K, it is more close to 5K and crop a lot. Only the S1 and S1H can record in open gate. It is one of the big difference between these cameras.
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Thanks mom! ❤️ U!
No 4k 24fps on S5?
4k 23.98
@@Ansonandco I wonder why Panasonic refuse to release an update fix it
its not on the list of netflix approved cameras fyi. I mean who cares but someone might.
This is correct. That was the hard part of selling the s1h
B&H promotion $1499 body+85/1.4 for now
Hellyeah!
Never in a million years!
To each their own for sure
Am I the only one who was rooting for the other light to go out? 😂
That’s just mean
@@Ansonandco only because you said it was going to go out too. It was anti-climatic that it didn't.
Noooooooo. Say it ain’t sooooo! Hahahhaa
I’m going to vlog on my S1H in honor of your switch!
Please do! 😂
Camera junkie 😅
It’s true lol
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