Your original snes has oversaturated colours and a squashed 1:1 aspect ratio. That's not what my original snes looks like. Mine has neutral colours and a 4:3 ratio. Much like the snes mini. That's what I don't like about these kind of comparisons. In the end it's all about what settings and screen capturing methods you use. I've seen graphics comparisons that show the exact opposite of what you show. Some show the snes mini has oversaturated colours compared to the original. Others show the snes mini and the original can both have natural colours. I'm still waiting for my snes mini to arrive on the 29th, but I trust that with the right settings I'll get neutral colours and 4:3 aspect ratio.
Indeed. The original is so oversaturated that you can't see many of the details in sprites (like points of colour in the terrain for giving "texture" to it), and hell, that was visible in the original in these titles when I played them decades ago. The rain in Metroid, and so on. In the SMW backgrounds, the mountains in the "original" are so badly rendering. So yes, it seems like if the capturing method and settings are very wrong with this video.
capture devices are important, but I do believe that the SNES outputs a 8:7 aspect ratio image natively. All analog CRTs will stretch the image to 4:3 on their own. So SNES images aren't being squished, the way most people are used to viewing them is actually stretched out from original.
the snes has a resolution of 256x224 pixels (or max 512x448 for mode 5) so that would indeed make a 8:7 aspect ratio. (I'll admit I mistakenly thought the snes had a 224x224 resolution, which would make for a 1:1 ratio. My bad) Many emulators as well as the perfect pixel mode on the snes mini display this 8:7 aspect ratio. You're also correct when you say: "All analog CRTs will stretch the image to 4:3 on their own" Since the developers were of course aware of this, they developed their games specifically to be displayed this way. The 4:3 aspect ratio therefore is the correct one. People who played on an actual snes with a crt tv got used to the correct 4:3 ratio. People who played on an emulator got used to the incorrect 8:7 ratio. Is that what you mean by your last sentence?
SourJovis My point was that 4:3 isn't actually the correct aspect ratio. Many games (and I suspect the vast majority) were designed to display accurate shapes and sizes in the 8:7 aspect ratio. Some games it doesnt matter much, but take Super metroid for example: As a morph ball, Samus is a perfect circular ball shape, until stretched into 4:3 where she becomes more ovular, and looks fatter overall. It may be hard to see this as incorrect since it is what we were used to, but more often than not, circles become unintended ovals after being stretched out. As an aside, stretching pixels out to 4:3 makes them lose sharpness, which I doubt was something anyone particularly desired when cutting edge graphics were a battle between Nintendo and Sega (and others) at the time. Both consoles suffered from stretching, unfortunately. With emulators/SnesClassic, we dont have to deal with imperfect pixels anymore.
Jennifer Lynn In that case I disagree with you. You say some games display perfect circles at an 8:7 ratio, but there are also games that display perfect circles at a 4:3 ratio. We don't know what the developers were thinking and which of the these were supposed to be perfect circles and which ellipses, but what we DO know is that all games were displayed at 4:3 because of the tv properties at the time and that all developers were aware of this fact. You say "As an aside, stretching pixels out to 4:3 makes them lose sharpness, which I doubt was something anyone particularly desired when cutting edge graphics were a battle between Nintendo and Sega (and others) at the time." This is simply not true. First of all, that stretching the pixels makes them lose sharpness only goes for screens that are made up of pixels themselves, like computer screens or digital televisions. This works as follows: If you stretch a 256x224 signal to 4:3 with a resolution of 579 by 448 pixels, that means the height is 448/224 which is exactly 2 pixels, which is sharp, but the width is 579/256 is 2.26 which is 2 pixels and a bit. It's that bit that becomes the intermediate colour of the 2 adjacent pixels which makes it unsharp. However a 8:7 ratio can be just as unsharp. For instance if you stretch a 256x224 signal to a 384 by 336 resolution both the original pixels in height as well as length become 1.5 pixels, which is a lot of intermediate pixels and an extremely blurry screen. So loss of sharpness hasn't got to do with aspect ratio perse. Also the lower the resolution of your screen, the higher the effect. On modern high resolution screens, like a 4K tv, you barely notice the loss of sharpness by stretching because there are a lot of pure colour pixels relative to the intermediate ones. However since old crt tv screens weren't built up of pixels,because they were analogue, none of this applied anyway. The pixels wouldn't be any sharper if they hadn't been stretched since analogue tvs don't work that way. Secondly only in recent years has pixel art become such a trend. Pixels remind people of the "good old days" when fun games were made up of large squares. Nowadays people want to see perfect crisp and square pixels. Back in the day however, pixels weren;t a choice. They were simply a limitation of the hardware. The way old analogue tvs helped blur out the pixels in fact helped create the illusion the games weren't made up of pixels and therefore made it easier to imagine it was real. I for one prefer a slight blur over sharp pixels. I think many do, that's why emulators offer the option to blur as well as several other ways to smooth out the pixels, like SuperEagle, 2xSal, etc. There are other things than sharpness of pixels that's far more important in terms of graphics, like resolution, amount of colours, number of layers, ways to handle 3d, contrast, noise, etc. Finally "With emulators/SnesClassic, we don't have to deal with imperfect pixels anymore." True. And with modern consoles on 16:9 4K tvs and surround sound we don't have to deal with 16-bit low res snes games on 4:3 crt tvs and stereo sound anymore. But that's just what games were designed for in my youth, and that's still the way I like to play them. But that's just my opinion. You can play them however you like.
Well no wonder looks so contrasty SNES Jr (Super Famicom Jr) is notorious for shitty video output compare to the original snes I definitely agree this video does not give original snes a fair chance.
His display method is off. My memory did not include colours so bright and garish. When these games were produced in addition to scanlines the colour balance for televisions were smaller, most notably in reds appearing more orange and a limit on the blue spectrum. I remember clearly how overly bright LCD screens appeared to be at first. None of that is taken into account in this comparison vid
They did a phenomenal job on the snes classic. The colours on the original SNES are a bit too strong but looked great on CRT TV's. There's more clarity on the classic.
Considering some of these games are £25 for the cart alone. I think this is a bargain. I'm buying just for Zelda, Megaman, Donkey Kong, Super Mario World & Starfox. Everything else is a bonus to me! By the way Game.co.uk have just released preorders of the SNES Mini just an hour ago get them in!
Esto es bien dificil de comparar, porque la Snes Original venia para conectar a TV CRT y la Snes Mini viene para HDMI, no hay manera de compararlas sin pasar por algún conversor de HDMI a RCA o RCA a HDMI y ahi esta el problema y es que cambiarian los colores, brillos, etc. Incluso si quieres compararlas en su respectivas TVs es imposible saber que pantalla sera la que tenga mas color, para mi comparar esto me parece una chorrada, lo que si no entiendo es porque en el video la Snes mini se ve tan oscura y la Snes Original tan saturada, me parece una pésima comparación. Y por ultimo, conecta 2 Snes Orignales en 2 pantallas CRT de diferente marca y veras como es diferente una de otra.
Well, I guess it kind of doesn't matter, but you can't deny that it's fucking bizarre to have the video/title in one language, and then have the description in another. Like, apart from people who MAY speak German AND English, who is the audience supposed to be?
iulian ispas those graphics shown aren't even the real SNES graphics. The SNES represents their respective games perfectly better than any other console.
I agree, the only thing in the universe that is allowed to even argue that point is a Sega Megadrive/Genesis for reasons understood by any true gaming enthusiast but I digress.. what a console! Even though I was a MD child it was always good having a friend with a SNES as we could decide which games to buy by best port or version of game plus play both consoles exclusives 💯
Wrong, sometimes to play the original SNES you have to use an old ass TV if it doesn't have AC cables, also playing with an emulator is more comfortable, imagine paying 90$ for just 9 games, in other emulators you can just download roms for free, and on the Snes Classic you pay 80$ and then Hack it with Hakchi to Add more roms if you want.
@@springtrapchannel9428 You are entitled to opinions and I'm entitled to mine. I don't pay $ because I was born & raised in the UK. (I still live in the UK) Plus I don't believe in hacking game consoles even if it involves downloading roms. If you prefer emulators and console hacking then fair enough. That is your right and I won't waist time trying to reverse your choice.
@Hammer Head I don't buy hacked cartridges. That's fine by me if you prefer to take the short cut into playing games. I prefer official cartridges for SNES and N64. (Haven't got the original NES) CDs for GameCube and Wii (Haven't got the Wii U) and little cartridges for the Nintendo Switch. All of us in this world have our own likes and dislikes.
I don't know if this is a good comparison and I don't see a big difference between in video quality that would make me go out to Amazon or ebay to buy one for $200 when I have the original snes at home on a 420 line CRT color tv. Looks so much better. Nintendo needs to upscale the graphics or something
Se ve saturado en color en el original, seguro modificaron los colores, porque en mario world las montañas de ataras se ven borrosas de tanto contraste, y no recuerdo que fuera asi, igual lo note en metroid se ve demasiado amarilla, y en la parte de magmoor caverns, se ve demasiado roja hasta le sale una imagen, no pueden se profesionales en esto???
Framemeister der kostet doch 400 oder so ? o.o und achja Eigentlich müssten die noch CTR Filter über Orginall machen weil Früher war das Halt so mit den Alten TVs :P (Die Spiele wurden sogar Extra so Entwickelt)
iQue Nein aber der Spielt ja eh nur Angepasst Nintendo 64 Spiele ab so weit ich weiß (Würde ich dan nicht als eigene Konsole zählen) TV Game 6 kenne ich nicht hmmm :o Hoffentlich kein Arcade ding :p Nintendo hat auch viele andere Sachen gemacht aber Arcade Automaten und sonstiges Sammle ich nicht da würde mir der platz schnell ausgehen xD
Habe das original sowohl auch die mini original Variante. Finde es auf dem Mini deutlich angenehmer zu spielen was auch kein Wunder ist da es viel moderner ist.
"vs ordentlicher emulator" mit angepassten settings hätte noch reingepasst :P (die mini geräte von nintendo sind eh nichts anderes als überteuerte emulatoren).
SpitFire. kein Abo für Abo, ihr Lappen. Emulator mit 2 Controllern, HDMI Kabel, Usb Kabel, internen Speicher für Spiele, Hardware die diese berechnet ( ohne Pc) u.Konsolen Gerüst... Also das Komplettpaket nur einen Emulator (software) zu nennen ist nicht ok :P
Ich finde SpitFire hat recht. Das SNES sowie das NES mini sind eh restlos ausverkauft. Ich glaube nicht, dass du jetzt noch an so eine "Konsole" rankommst. Nintendo hätte das ganze auch auf zum Beispiel Steam anbieten können und eine viel größere Reichweite erzielt. Würde wahrscheinlich auf jeden Computer laufen. (Software haben die meines wissen schoneimal für den PC veröffentlicht, ist nur lange her)
Es geht doch nicht um die Software ... Nintendo verkauft seit der Wii diese Spiele online. Damit soll man sich eben zurückversetzt fühlen ... Außerdem will Nintendo keine Spiele auf dem PC veröffentlichen, haben sie vor kurzem wieder bestätigt.
Falsch... Emolatoren an sich sind nicht illegal. Illegal wäre es, sich ein BIOS einer Konsole zu besorgen (was man bswp. bei einem PlayStation1 Emulator bräuchte) oder Spiele, die man nicht im Original besitzt - hat dann allerdings nix mit Emulation zu tun. Sind dann halt einfach Raubkopien. Wenn man also ein altes SNES zuhause rumstehen hat, spricht nichts dagegen, die Spiele zu emulieren.
Mini is infinite better then original hardware upscale to 1080p via hdmi, and smothing fitre added Mini is powered Arm dual core co gpu video Mali 400 MP2 GPU. Hynix provides the single memory chip - a 256MB DDR3 module - and there's a generous 512MB of NAND storage I will be nice to make some remakes for mini as he can run perfect arcade games nothing like the lame 2 mhz cpu on original hardware Of curse some mental funboys will show up and coment that the snes picture better, is not ,this days the emulator are so perfected as they are in fact way better than the original hardware
Well you've just changed the brightness and resolution on your tv when comparing the 2. My original snes doesn't look like that unless I ramp up the brightness and my mini snes doesn't look like that unless I lower the brightness. Silly comparison
It really doesn't. If you look at 2:05 on the flower petals in the water, you will notice they lose quality. This is the fault of the person making the video- He used a shitty composite output rather than RGB.
Actually this does not says much. Missing crt output for snes, also bear in mind you are actually watching your lcd display while judging from videos :)
??? soooo the snes has better graphics than the snes mini? wtf?!?! seriously, at least on my computer screen, the original snes looks way better than any of the snes mini comparisons.
Die SNES Original Farben sind viel zu über steuert. Farbanpassungen lassen sich zudem bei den meisten Geräten vornehmen. Viel interessanter wären die SFX Spiele gewesen.
I guess what people don't remember... Is snes original was adapted to the TV back then.. Images needed to be more saturated so it looked good on the old TV... It's HD 1080 p.. Components for the snes mini are also different than they were back then. I don't care for the saturation, mini CRT is the way to go.. So that you get a better retro image.
I don't think so. The original looks way over-saturated to me. It's especially noticeable on Super Metroid. I mean, you can really notice the details, like the shades, etc, on Samus' suit on the mini. The original one looks like she's being half-scorched by the sun or some shit.
I have both. An original SNES and a Super Nintendo Classic, and I can tell you that the colors are about the same for both on my Element flat screen TV, and both are 4:3 aspect ratio.
you're not using an RBG signal so this is kind of irrelevant comparison since composite (I assume is what you're using) is terrible. Super Metroid on a Sony PVM. i.imgur.com/2XVQRNG.jpg
Todo depende de como calibres tu TV incluso conectando 2 Snes Originales en pantallas de culo, no importa que sean Snes Originales, porque todo depende de la calibracion del fabricante. esto de comparar es una chorrada...
If it doesn't That means your system is a fake The real systems than Nintendo made to fill up the whole screen I speak from experience from seen at my friends house to seen with my own stuff with my own eyes they filled up the whole screen automatically just like HD games Do nowadays games
This video is a fraud. like almost everyone before me said, the so called ''SNES Original'' is a crappy S-video capture instead of a super clean RGB. it should be no different than the ''mini CRT''. but good to see that people know their SNES so well. Hello gentlemen/women.
SNES classic looks AWFUL on a 4k tv. the fucking huge pixels are almost unbearable. CRT mode is better in that regard, but the lines and blurriness are kind of distracting. if you can handle a shit ton of jaggy sprites then go for 4:3 mode as it is much clearer.
I would have to say Original NES and original super nintendo Original N64 Original game cube And Game Boy player AK original cartridges much better for modern day age considering what they're trying to do with TV's now brighter darker colors it seems like the games from the past would cause that to make more sense than their digital download versions to which those are way too dark download versions I'd rather have the set games on their original devices this video proves it their original devices will be better choice because of a causative you to play on of monanday each make more sense considering what they're trying to do with color and leading That we see original games would probably better on their original devices on a modern day TV them what the nintendo switch is doing with them The coloring images of publicly better balanced on their original of Devices Appeared to the switch trying to emulate their original lighting and color I which is terrible on the switch the mimicking of the original devices color and lighting style a modern day TV it seems like being in their original vices that he could peered into the switch version your progress is the original versions on the original license look much better than they do on the switch cars the color and lighting is better balanced And looks nicer than it does in a switch The same idea of lighting and color I the original advice is probly do them better Justice on that same idea in probly more so Because the digital downloads are way too dark the original versions look better your video proves that for it so I root for the original devices Screw this stupid downloads the original devices are also better and another way they give you access to more titles then what nintendo's been doing lately which they followed been given you a small portion of the past but is you only regional devices you can get all the past back Like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles One and 2 and 3 NES And super version number 4 And Batman can you do that on modern day council some Nintendo's blast to the past no Nintendo's idea of the past will never give you an all back As a lot of you fans Be disappointed because some of the game some of you like to play won't probly make a return Nintendo backwards compatibility or Microsoft Backwards compatibility Look at Microsoft for instance They still haven't gotten the backwards compatibility for Tales of Vesperia Xbox 360 Version so do you think owning a system with backwards compatibility is really worth it when a huge chunk of your past as missing don't think it makes more sense to only original the vases and get all your past back To make the modern day age have a better version of the past To have the company's buy all the games from a past and look at how they look on a modern day TV and try and duplicate that same color and lighting on a download version using the original and the download version And have them verse each other So that nintendo And Microsoft Can show they finally rectified the problem showing that the backwards compatibility ones look just as nice and vibrant as the original and still that there's no difference When they can pull that off then fans will be happy When there is no difference in how the original versions look on the TV and how the digital versions look and the TV making it so there's no difference between the 2 anymore and also by the way something that companies of a doing what the past of some of the games they've been forcing them to have black bars When originally they don't if they play in their original devices they automatically fill up the whole screen Cause an original devices the games will fit the screen completely like a modern day game on their original devices Like nintendo through game cube and Game Boy player game generation will fill up the whole screen on those devices so why is the monody systems forcing us to have black bars Which really ticks me off that companies are doing something that stupid I'd rather only original Device at least that way I wouldn't have to put up with stupid black bars cause my games will fill up the whole screen Cause I had a friend that had the original devices all of them and he played it on a modern day TV and they filled up the whole screen Original nes Original super nintendo original nintendo 64 original game cube original super Game Boy for the super nintendo and game cube and the Game Boy player they all filled up the whole screen completely and properly balanced on screen they fit the screen like a glove like they do on the original TV they used to be played on during the 43 radius age They completely filled up the hole 169 ratio TV GOTS Those games filled up the screen completely on their original devices just like an HD games Does I'm not joking check it out for yourself
Gott sieht das scheiße aus. Dann lieber SNES Games am PC mittels Emualtor und ordentlich aufgepuschter Grafik zocken. Nintendo hat wohl noch nie was von Interpolations Algorithmen wie bspw. 2xSAI gehört. Selbst meine alte Xbox (die erste) konnte schon SNES Spiele mit 2xSai Filter perfekt wiedergeben.
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Your original snes has oversaturated colours and a squashed 1:1 aspect ratio. That's not what my original snes looks like. Mine has neutral colours and a 4:3 ratio. Much like the snes mini. That's what I don't like about these kind of comparisons. In the end it's all about what settings and screen capturing methods you use. I've seen graphics comparisons that show the exact opposite of what you show. Some show the snes mini has oversaturated colours compared to the original. Others show the snes mini and the original can both have natural colours. I'm still waiting for my snes mini to arrive on the 29th, but I trust that with the right settings I'll get neutral colours and 4:3 aspect ratio.
Indeed. The original is so oversaturated that you can't see many of the details in sprites (like points of colour in the terrain for giving "texture" to it), and hell, that was visible in the original in these titles when I played them decades ago. The rain in Metroid, and so on.
In the SMW backgrounds, the mountains in the "original" are so badly rendering. So yes, it seems like if the capturing method and settings are very wrong with this video.
capture devices are important, but I do believe that the SNES outputs a 8:7 aspect ratio image natively. All analog CRTs will stretch the image to 4:3 on their own. So SNES images aren't being squished, the way most people are used to viewing them is actually stretched out from original.
the snes has a resolution of 256x224 pixels (or max 512x448 for mode 5) so that would indeed make a 8:7 aspect ratio. (I'll admit I mistakenly thought the snes had a 224x224 resolution, which would make for a 1:1 ratio. My bad) Many emulators as well as the perfect pixel mode on the snes mini display this 8:7 aspect ratio. You're also correct when you say: "All analog CRTs will stretch the image to 4:3 on their own" Since the developers were of course aware of this, they developed their games specifically to be displayed this way. The 4:3 aspect ratio therefore is the correct one. People who played on an actual snes with a crt tv got used to the correct 4:3 ratio. People who played on an emulator got used to the incorrect 8:7 ratio. Is that what you mean by your last sentence?
SourJovis My point was that 4:3 isn't actually the correct aspect ratio. Many games (and I suspect the vast majority) were designed to display accurate shapes and sizes in the 8:7 aspect ratio. Some games it doesnt matter much, but take Super metroid for example: As a morph ball, Samus is a perfect circular ball shape, until stretched into 4:3 where she becomes more ovular, and looks fatter overall. It may be hard to see this as incorrect since it is what we were used to, but more often than not, circles become unintended ovals after being stretched out. As an aside, stretching pixels out to 4:3 makes them lose sharpness, which I doubt was something anyone particularly desired when cutting edge graphics were a battle between Nintendo and Sega (and others) at the time. Both consoles suffered from stretching, unfortunately. With emulators/SnesClassic, we dont have to deal with imperfect pixels anymore.
Jennifer Lynn In that case I disagree with you.
You say some games display perfect circles at an 8:7 ratio, but there are also games that display perfect circles at a 4:3 ratio. We don't know what the developers were thinking and which of the these were supposed to be perfect circles and which ellipses, but what we DO know is that all games were displayed at 4:3 because of the tv properties at the time and that all developers were aware of this fact.
You say "As an aside, stretching pixels out to 4:3 makes them lose sharpness, which I doubt was something anyone particularly desired when cutting edge graphics were a battle between Nintendo and Sega (and others) at the time." This is simply not true.
First of all, that stretching the pixels makes them lose sharpness only goes for screens that are made up of pixels themselves, like computer screens or digital televisions. This works as follows: If you stretch a 256x224 signal to 4:3 with a resolution of 579 by 448 pixels, that means the height is 448/224 which is exactly 2 pixels, which is sharp, but the width is 579/256 is 2.26 which is 2 pixels and a bit. It's that bit that becomes the intermediate colour of the 2 adjacent pixels which makes it unsharp. However a 8:7 ratio can be just as unsharp. For instance if you stretch a 256x224 signal to a 384 by 336 resolution both the original pixels in height as well as length become 1.5 pixels, which is a lot of intermediate pixels and an extremely blurry screen. So loss of sharpness hasn't got to do with aspect ratio perse. Also the lower the resolution of your screen, the higher the effect. On modern high resolution screens, like a 4K tv, you barely notice the loss of sharpness by stretching because there are a lot of pure colour pixels relative to the intermediate ones. However since old crt tv screens weren't built up of pixels,because they were analogue, none of this applied anyway. The pixels wouldn't be any sharper if they hadn't been stretched since analogue tvs don't work that way.
Secondly only in recent years has pixel art become such a trend. Pixels remind people of the "good old days" when fun games were made up of large squares. Nowadays people want to see perfect crisp and square pixels. Back in the day however, pixels weren;t a choice. They were simply a limitation of the hardware. The way old analogue tvs helped blur out the pixels in fact helped create the illusion the games weren't made up of pixels and therefore made it easier to imagine it was real. I for one prefer a slight blur over sharp pixels. I think many do, that's why emulators offer the option to blur as well as several other ways to smooth out the pixels, like SuperEagle, 2xSal, etc. There are other things than sharpness of pixels that's far more important in terms of graphics, like resolution, amount of colours, number of layers, ways to handle 3d, contrast, noise, etc.
Finally "With emulators/SnesClassic, we don't have to deal with imperfect pixels anymore." True. And with modern consoles on 16:9 4K tvs and surround sound we don't have to deal with 16-bit low res snes games on 4:3 crt tvs and stereo sound anymore. But that's just what games were designed for in my youth, and that's still the way I like to play them.
But that's just my opinion. You can play them however you like.
orignal snes - composite? s-video? rgb scart? RF?
sleepytiger
Or 1-Chip RGB
looks like a composite. I have SNES and rgb scart. And there the picture is better and clearer. More like a snes mini 4:3
I would agree - but the person who made the video didn't give the original snes a fair chance. compare it with RGB scart as a minimum.
Well no wonder looks so contrasty SNES Jr (Super Famicom Jr) is notorious for shitty video output compare to the original snes I definitely agree this video does not give original snes a fair chance.
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Don't know what your original SNES capture method is, but mine looks a lot more like the Classic Mini.
Timur Kral I notice, during the Super Mario World section at least, that it is PAL for original hardware.
His display method is off. My memory did not include colours so bright and garish.
When these games were produced in addition to scanlines the colour balance for televisions were smaller, most notably in reds appearing more orange and a limit on the blue spectrum. I remember clearly how overly bright LCD screens appeared to be at first.
None of that is taken into account in this comparison vid
Pointless comparison with the original SNES captured via composite with the worst upscaling possible
WOULDNT THAT BE THE POINT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think that something's off with your original SNES colour settings.
David I bet he using a scart or some shit
They did a phenomenal job on the snes classic. The colours on the original SNES are a bit too strong but looked great on CRT TV's. There's more clarity on the classic.
Warum wurden die SNES aufnahmen vom Fernseher abgefilmt?
Before releasing SFC Mini, how could it be possible to compare Mini and original one?
Warum ist das Bild so dunkel auf dem Mini SNES ?
Wrong! "Original resolution" means what exactly? Looks more like pixel perfect to me.
Noticed the ground was lower in Super Mario World(?) and there were fewer lighting strikes on Super Metroid after Samus leaves the ship.
Lol, my SNES doesn't look like that. What kind of output are you using? My snes mini and the snes original aren't very different like you show here.
What about the Wii/Wii U Virtual Console?
Are there any obvious differences?
The difference is that the Emulation is crap
Wenn das snes mini originalauflösung bietet wieso ist die dann anders als die des original snes?
How to compare RGB analogic video signal and HDMI digital video signal... ... ...
1:46 what is the name of this game?
Super Mario?
Could someone tell me the name of the music at 1:43? I know it's from Secret of Mana, but I don't know the name of the song.
Never mind, I found it.
original the best !sempre !
Considering some of these games are £25 for the cart alone. I think this is a bargain. I'm buying just for Zelda, Megaman, Donkey Kong, Super Mario World & Starfox. Everything else is a bonus to me!
By the way Game.co.uk have just released preorders of the SNES Mini just an hour ago get them in!
Its an old catridge for an old gaming system, running an old game. Its worth $0.20 tops.
Only difference I see is the mini compared to the original is a darker in color - glad I have the original
Esto es bien dificil de comparar, porque la Snes Original venia para conectar a TV CRT y la Snes Mini viene para HDMI, no hay manera de compararlas sin pasar por algún conversor de HDMI a RCA o RCA a HDMI y ahi esta el problema y es que cambiarian los colores, brillos, etc. Incluso si quieres compararlas en su respectivas TVs es imposible saber que pantalla sera la que tenga mas color, para mi comparar esto me parece una chorrada, lo que si no entiendo es porque en el video la Snes mini se ve tan oscura y la Snes Original tan saturada, me parece una pésima comparación. Y por ultimo, conecta 2 Snes Orignales en 2 pantallas CRT de diferente marca y veras como es diferente una de otra.
Roses are Red
Violets are Blue
The title is English
So why aren't you
Learn German.
Merlin Jansen how 'bout no
Dann heul nicht rum.
Because he's born in germany...dumb question.
Well, I guess it kind of doesn't matter, but you can't deny that it's fucking bizarre to have the video/title in one language, and then have the description in another. Like, apart from people who MAY speak German AND English, who is the audience supposed to be?
Wieviele wurden eigentlich insgesamt produziert ? Kann echt nicht wahr sein ich will ein haben.
IN GOD I TRUST ich habe jetzt 4 Stück.. aber werde 2 verschenken. also nur 2 behalten 👌😉
Wird laut nintento produziert auch 2018.Also keine panik.
You can't compare the CRT filter unless you record your tv with a camera.
Man to be honest the original snes looks like it has more colors then the mini.
nothing beats the original snes. it is the perfect machine
Gary Grey don't be stupid is awful compare with mini
iulian ispas those graphics shown aren't even the real SNES graphics. The SNES represents their respective games perfectly better than any other console.
I agree, the only thing in the universe that is allowed to even argue that point is a Sega Megadrive/Genesis for reasons understood by any true gaming enthusiast but I digress.. what a console! Even though I was a MD child it was always good having a friend with a SNES as we could decide which games to buy by best port or version of game plus play both consoles exclusives 💯
Why can't you just adjust the color on your t.v. to make it more saturated?!
Nice comparison video but the original SNES will always beat the emulators any time and any place.
Wrong, sometimes to play the original SNES you have to use an old ass TV if it doesn't have AC cables, also playing with an emulator is more comfortable, imagine paying 90$ for just 9 games, in other emulators you can just download roms for free, and on the Snes Classic you pay 80$ and then Hack it with Hakchi to Add more roms if you want.
@@springtrapchannel9428 You are entitled to opinions and I'm entitled to mine. I don't pay $ because I was born & raised in the UK. (I still live in the UK) Plus I don't believe in hacking game consoles even if it involves downloading roms. If you prefer emulators and console hacking then fair enough. That is your right and I won't waist time trying to reverse your choice.
@Hammer Head I don't buy hacked cartridges. That's fine by me if you prefer to take the short cut into playing games. I prefer official cartridges for SNES and N64. (Haven't got the original NES) CDs for GameCube and Wii (Haven't got the Wii U) and little cartridges for the Nintendo Switch. All of us in this world have our own likes and dislikes.
@@matthewstreets9662 You are completely wrong because the old woman cannot become a bride so the SNES mini is way better than the original lol
I don't know if this is a good comparison and I don't see a big difference between in video quality that would make me go out to Amazon or ebay to buy one for $200 when I have the original snes at home on a 420 line CRT color tv. Looks so much better. Nintendo needs to upscale the graphics or something
the colours are just so much better on the original snes
PKTV you know you can adjust your tvs color settings, right?
Great job👍
Invalid comparison. The original SNES used is PAL during Super Mario World.
Se ve saturado en color en el original, seguro modificaron los colores, porque en mario world las montañas de ataras se ven borrosas de tanto contraste, y no recuerdo que fuera asi, igual lo note en metroid se ve demasiado amarilla, y en la parte de magmoor caverns, se ve demasiado roja hasta le sale una imagen, no pueden se profesionales en esto???
Naja. Also die Originalhardware sieht über RGB und einen guten Upscaler wie den Framemeister DEUTLICH besser aus, als hier gezeigt.
Framemeister der kostet doch 400 oder so ? o.o und achja Eigentlich müssten die noch CTR Filter über Orginall machen weil Früher war das Halt so mit den Alten TVs :P (Die Spiele wurden sogar Extra so Entwickelt)
Ahri der Framemeister bietet ja Scanlines. Er kostet 290€, ja.
Lohnt sich auf jeden fall für Retro Freunden o/ habe alle Orginal Nintendo Konsolen bei mir außer Virtual Boy
iQue Nein aber der Spielt ja eh nur Angepasst Nintendo 64 Spiele ab so weit ich weiß (Würde ich dan nicht als eigene Konsole zählen)
TV Game 6 kenne ich nicht hmmm :o Hoffentlich kein Arcade ding :p Nintendo hat auch viele andere Sachen gemacht aber Arcade Automaten und sonstiges Sammle ich nicht da würde mir der platz schnell ausgehen xD
Habe das original sowohl auch die mini original Variante. Finde es auf dem Mini deutlich angenehmer zu spielen was auch kein Wunder ist da es viel moderner ist.
what about raspberry pi 3?
Much cheaper and much better.
Wait a second.. in Super Mario World, is the original SNES version with a different camera position?
Ich finde den CRT Filter am besten muss ich sagen. Zumindest auf aktuellen Fernsehern.
"vs ordentlicher emulator" mit angepassten settings hätte noch reingepasst :P (die mini geräte von nintendo sind eh nichts anderes als überteuerte emulatoren).
SpitFire. kein Abo für Abo, ihr Lappen. Emulator mit 2 Controllern, HDMI Kabel, Usb Kabel, internen Speicher für Spiele, Hardware die diese berechnet ( ohne Pc) u.Konsolen Gerüst...
Also das Komplettpaket nur einen Emulator (software) zu nennen ist nicht ok :P
Ich finde SpitFire hat recht. Das SNES sowie das NES mini sind eh restlos ausverkauft. Ich glaube nicht, dass du jetzt noch an so eine "Konsole" rankommst. Nintendo hätte das ganze auch auf zum Beispiel Steam anbieten können und eine viel größere Reichweite erzielt. Würde wahrscheinlich auf jeden Computer laufen. (Software haben die meines wissen schoneimal für den PC veröffentlicht, ist nur lange her)
Außer halt das Emulatoren illegal sind. Ich weiß, interessiert die meisten nicht. Ist aber so.
Es geht doch nicht um die Software ... Nintendo verkauft seit der Wii diese Spiele online. Damit soll man sich eben zurückversetzt fühlen ... Außerdem will Nintendo keine Spiele auf dem PC veröffentlichen, haben sie vor kurzem wieder bestätigt.
Falsch... Emolatoren an sich sind nicht illegal.
Illegal wäre es, sich ein BIOS einer Konsole zu besorgen (was man bswp. bei einem PlayStation1 Emulator bräuchte) oder Spiele, die man nicht im Original besitzt - hat dann allerdings nix mit Emulation zu tun. Sind dann halt einfach Raubkopien.
Wenn man also ein altes SNES zuhause rumstehen hat, spricht nichts dagegen, die Spiele zu emulieren.
Mini is infinite better then original hardware upscale to 1080p via hdmi, and smothing fitre added
Mini is powered Arm dual core co gpu video Mali 400 MP2 GPU. Hynix provides the single memory chip - a 256MB DDR3 module - and there's a generous 512MB of NAND storage
I will be nice to make some remakes for mini as he can run perfect arcade games nothing like the lame 2 mhz cpu on original hardware
Of curse some mental funboys will show up and coment that the snes picture better, is not ,this days the emulator are so perfected as they are in fact way better than the original hardware
iulian ispas And your the only one who cares
Ayden Smith I have a snes mini due a new hack can play even arcade from now I will keep my original snes only for nostalgia
Mini is utter shit. NUC is quadcore 2ghz with 4-8gb ram, x86 multipurpose. Easily attachable 16-256GB storage.
Hi
Don’t use component and expect a fair comparison
Did you use a CRT for the original???? That shit counts dude
mini looks bad.it looks darker and some blurry
prefer the original snes screenshot
Well you've just changed the brightness and resolution on your tv when comparing the 2. My original snes doesn't look like that unless I ramp up the brightness and my mini snes doesn't look like that unless I lower the brightness. Silly comparison
There's nothing like the original hardware. The Mini 4:3 is the closest settings to the original.
Is it just me, or does the Original SNES have better colors?!
Not only that, it looks crisper IMO
It really doesn't. If you look at 2:05 on the flower petals in the water, you will notice they lose quality.
This is the fault of the person making the video- He used a shitty composite output rather than RGB.
Its just you
Might be the epilepsy protection.
Graphics for Super NES Classic vs original on your common HD TV, not so good. Kind of disappointed.
nice video
I personally think pixel perfect mode is absolutely horrible
they're all horrible on my 4k tv. so many jaggies and boxy pixels it's gross.
i brought this cause if im going to play these 21 games im going to play them on this and not the old snes.
Actually this does not says much. Missing crt output for snes, also bear in mind you are actually watching your lcd display while judging from videos :)
Doesn't matter. You can see the difference anyway, especially in colours.
Original don't look like that lol
C'mon u gotta use a better video connection for the original
@@Ocirek The original snes has RGB output
Fake! My snes smw looks the same as in my snes mini, you are just using a bad quality video capture
Lichteffekte und Texturen sowie Animationen und vor allem Partikeleffekte waren im Original deutlich besser!!!
Ohrwurm, danke ... ;D
you have to use RBG to get the best out of the Super Nintendo
No Original SNES RGB SCART comparison?
You say this like if I had a choice to buy the mini.😐
??? soooo the snes has better graphics than the snes mini? wtf?!?! seriously, at least on my computer screen, the original snes looks way better than any of the snes mini comparisons.
I missed my hopes to buy a SNES mini clássico... ALL right vídeo, RUclips (won)...
SNES Original >>> SNES mini
how could Nintendo fuck up something so simple.
pointless comparison without RGB output on the real thing. Nice try though.
Dang the dark ages
this is not using the snes in rgb
Die SNES Original Farben sind viel zu über steuert. Farbanpassungen lassen sich zudem bei den meisten Geräten vornehmen. Viel interessanter wären die SFX Spiele gewesen.
Best resolution snes classic mini for sure 100%
put your tv high color
The grass was lighter
Snes for only crt tv - best choice. Lcd? Ok! scanlines generator or Snes mini, but crt mode! Only so! P.s. Compare the game so wrong.
Eigentlich könnte man ein gestochen scharfes Bild bei 19/9 erwarten .
Naja alles ist schon gesagt, über RGB das Original anschließen und dann hat man das bessere Bild :D
Wow thats a big difference in colors. I might get a 60hz modded PAL snes instead of the Mini. In Sweden the mini will cost 150 dollars.
stefanbe you know your tv has controls to adjust colours?
Not what a real Snes looks like hooked up to a CRT nor a modern Tv. Don't know what the fuck you did to your tv settings.
I guess what people don't remember... Is snes original was adapted to the TV back then.. Images needed to be more saturated so it looked good on the old TV... It's HD 1080 p.. Components for the snes mini are also different than they were back then. I don't care for the saturation, mini CRT is the way to go.. So that you get a better retro image.
snes original the best than mini snes
wolfranius I agree. It's colorful and more vivid. The mini looks washed out 😑
I don't think so. The original looks way over-saturated to me. It's especially noticeable on Super Metroid. I mean, you can really notice the details, like the shades, etc, on Samus' suit on the mini. The original one looks like she's being half-scorched by the sun or some shit.
Marknetick I think he just upped the saturation to make it look "SUPER DIFFERENT"
Probably. But whatever the original colour saturation is like, that over-saturated shit looks worse. Just my opinion, though.
I have both. An original SNES and a Super Nintendo Classic, and I can tell you that the colors are about the same for both on my Element flat screen TV, and both are 4:3 aspect ratio.
you're not using an RBG signal so this is kind of irrelevant comparison since composite (I assume is what you're using) is terrible.
Super Metroid on a Sony PVM. i.imgur.com/2XVQRNG.jpg
cool, but what about comparing these shits with 4xBRZ filter?
they dropped the ball on the colour
fretboarder Mini is the same as the sones.This guy just has oversaturated colors.
imho crt filter forever... too much defined for led tv
Mini original resolution is the best
Original the best ❤
Me dió dolor de cabeza tratando de ver la diferencia y no vi ninguna🙄😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 dejen el show
raspberry Pi full HD pixel
snes classic rca to HDMI =full HD
raspberry kills this thing.
Todo depende de como calibres tu TV incluso conectando 2 Snes Originales en pantallas de culo, no importa que sean Snes Originales, porque todo depende de la calibracion del fabricante. esto de comparar es una chorrada...
Lol no one should pay more than $80 for the snes mini
If it doesn't That means your system is a fake The real systems than Nintendo made to fill up the whole screen I speak from experience from seen at my friends house to seen with my own stuff with my own eyes they filled up the whole screen automatically just like HD games Do nowadays games
This video is a fraud. like almost everyone before me said, the so called ''SNES Original'' is a crappy S-video capture instead of a super clean RGB. it should be no different than the ''mini CRT''.
but good to see that people know their SNES so well. Hello gentlemen/women.
SNES classic looks AWFUL on a 4k tv. the fucking huge pixels are almost unbearable. CRT mode is better in that regard, but the lines and blurriness are kind of distracting. if you can handle a shit ton of jaggy sprites then go for 4:3 mode as it is much clearer.
Original all the way
enything is wrong with your snes colors.
the original snes looked like shit even in mode 7 games looked like pewk in a modern tv
Oversaturated colors on SNES original.
han pagado por un emulador.... digo no?!
I would have to say Original NES and original super nintendo Original N64 Original game cube And Game Boy player AK original cartridges much better for modern day age considering what they're trying to do with TV's now brighter darker colors it seems like the games from the past would cause that to make more sense than their digital download versions to which those are way too dark download versions I'd rather have the set games on their original devices this video proves it their original devices will be better choice because of a causative you to play on of monanday each make more sense considering what they're trying to do with color and leading That we see original games would probably better on their original devices on a modern day TV them what the nintendo switch is doing with them The coloring images of publicly better balanced on their original of Devices Appeared to the switch trying to emulate their original lighting and color I which is terrible on the switch the mimicking of the original devices color and lighting style a modern day TV it seems like being in their original vices that he could peered into the switch version your progress is the original versions on the original license look much better than they do on the switch cars the color and lighting is better balanced And looks nicer than it does in a switch The same idea of lighting and color I the original advice is probly do them better Justice on that same idea in probly more so Because the digital downloads are way too dark the original versions look better your video proves that for it so I root for the original devices Screw this stupid downloads the original devices are also better and another way they give you access to more titles then what nintendo's been doing lately which they followed been given you a small portion of the past but is you only regional devices you can get all the past back Like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles One and 2 and 3 NES And super version number 4 And Batman can you do that on modern day council some Nintendo's blast to the past no Nintendo's idea of the past will never give you an all back As a lot of you fans Be disappointed because some of the game some of you like to play won't probly make a return Nintendo backwards compatibility or Microsoft Backwards compatibility Look at Microsoft for instance They still haven't gotten the backwards compatibility for Tales of Vesperia Xbox 360 Version so do you think owning a system with backwards compatibility is really worth it when a huge chunk of your past as missing don't think it makes more sense to only original the vases and get all your past back To make the modern day age have a better version of the past To have the company's buy all the games from a past and look at how they look on a modern day TV and try and duplicate that same color and lighting on a download version using the original and the download version And have them verse each other So that nintendo And Microsoft Can show they finally rectified the problem showing that the backwards compatibility ones look just as nice and vibrant as the original and still that there's no difference When they can pull that off then fans will be happy When there is no difference in how the original versions look on the TV and how the digital versions look and the TV making it so there's no difference between the 2 anymore and also by the way something that companies of a doing what the past of some of the games they've been forcing them to have black bars When originally they don't if they play in their original devices they automatically fill up the whole screen Cause an original devices the games will fit the screen completely like a modern day game on their original devices Like nintendo through game cube and Game Boy player game generation will fill up the whole screen on those devices so why is the monody systems forcing us to have black bars Which really ticks me off that companies are doing something that stupid I'd rather only original Device at least that way I wouldn't have to put up with stupid black bars cause my games will fill up the whole screen Cause I had a friend that had the original devices all of them and he played it on a modern day TV and they filled up the whole screen Original nes Original super nintendo original nintendo 64 original game cube original super Game Boy for the super nintendo and game cube and the Game Boy player they all filled up the whole screen completely and properly balanced on screen they fit the screen like a glove like they do on the original TV they used to be played on during the 43 radius age They completely filled up the hole 169 ratio TV GOTS Those games filled up the screen completely on their original devices just like an HD games Does I'm not joking check it out for yourself
NUC+Lakka+Roms >> Snes mini
Gott sieht das scheiße aus. Dann lieber SNES Games am PC mittels Emualtor und ordentlich aufgepuschter Grafik zocken. Nintendo hat wohl noch nie was von Interpolations Algorithmen wie bspw. 2xSAI gehört. Selbst meine alte Xbox (die erste) konnte schon SNES Spiele mit 2xSai Filter perfekt wiedergeben.
Lakka+Joystick+NUC=Win
Жуткая белая полоса...
Damn🤔
The original looks gross