One thing that i learned now is that i will never sell a console again :-) I will keep my consoles, because man, how i feel nostalgic when seeing this. Just pre-ordered a Mini - NES :-D
@@RobertNES816 Late 80's & early 90's pop culture can't be beat! ;) Where's the time machine when you need one? These days as far as modern gaming goes, i focus on Switch, with a splash of VR & PS5. Neither of which can compete against being a kid and gaming it up during the 8-16 bit generations. Pop culture took a noticeable decline at around 96, and it was officially over by the 2000's.
One advantage of the original SNES is that it works with the HD Retrovision component video cable, without any modding. These cables provide an amazingly clear picture.
I once had the original SNES, non-1Chip, for the longest time as a kid until hard times in 2018 caused me to sadly lose the legendary console (not broken, just went missing). I now have a stock Jr. version to replace it, though it costed $130. In comparison, it works like a charm like I remembered when running games, but since it is 100% 1Chip, the picture is sharper, but the white levels are too bright. For authenticity, I perfer the original pre-1Chip SNES and I will look for another working one, but the SNES Jr. is surely worth in my collection given how rare and expensive they are nowadays. It's not perfect, but it is way better than having a clone system, as it still has the raw hardware of the original model. ...And I strongly recommend using a CRT TV, not a flatscreen when showcasing old consoles.
Very informative video! One thing that I've noticed, that I don't see mentioned often, is how the audio on the original (SHVC-CPU-01) SNES is ever so slightly better than on the 1chip version. It's likely because of the more fleshed-out sound hardware. I could be completely wrong, but it's an observation I've made.
The SNES Mini is actually a better SNES than the original as far as video output. It is what is known as a 1-CHIP SNES, meaning it has a unified CPU+PPU architecture, and this unified chip produces a cleaner video signal. There are some 1-CHIP versions of the standard SNES as well, but they are difficult to locate. The only issue is that the SNES Jr. is missing the motherboard traces for S-Video chroma and luma, so if you want to output S-Video from your SNES Jr., you will need to crack the console open and add those traces back (one dollar's worth of parts, and a bit of solder). There are games that have weird graphical issues with 1-CHIP SNES models, but they are few and far between. That said, all SNES have the same CPU, and are all equally "powerful". This, for reference, is a SNES Jr. comparing the standard composite signal with the re-added S-Video: www.twitch.tv/screevo/v/81106316
More specifically, it is generally SuperFX games (Star Fox, Stunt Racer, etc) that have graphical issues with a 1-CHIP SNES, but there aren't a ton of SuperFX games out there.
I agree, the snes mini does run a bit slower for FX games, but the definition between the blacks and colours are so much better. The trick to getting good video on the cheap with no mods on the snes mini is to run it through a good crt with a 3D comb filter. Make sure to turn the sharpness all the way down and you will notice the quality is comparable to s-video and the colours are more vibrant and sharper. I think the best TV's to use are the Sony Wega's and the JVC i'art.
I cracked my SNES Mini open and added S-Video by soldering in jumpers from the chroma and luma pins on the amp over to the multi-out, so I now have an S-Video capable 1-Chip SNES Jr. It is beautiful. I capture my SNES directly for twitch streaming, and don't apply any filtering to it other than standard de-interlacing.
The mini is no slower than the original models. It has better video output quality on composite than all the others and even beats the original launch revision's quality through s-video. Also, the vertical line through the middle that most super nintendos have was nearly completely removed from that model. It just falls short on its looks and how it's pretty bare bones as far as snes goes.
Love both the Super NES and the Super NES mini (a.k.a. New-Style Super NES, SNES Jr., Super NES Jr., Super Nintendo Jr., SNES 2, Super NES 2, Super Nintendo 2)!
both snes are cool and i did grow up with the original model but something about the snes 101 mini model looks and seems better if i could choose personally I'd go with the snes mini/101 👍
Hello! I from Eastern Europe. I have 2chip SNES (SNSP-001A(FRG), Pal, made for Germany), parents bought it in end of 1994. It one of the most big moments from my childhood. Later in beginings of 2000's, friend come to me to play in SNES games, and he ask me which my SNES is 1 or 2 chips, I be surprised. I say what it bought in 1994, he be surprised and said what he thought what my SNES 1chip, because picture very good and he not saw "soap" in angles of picture. Later he come again with special screwdriver, to see what inside my SNES, but we not be able to go deep enough, because we not be able to remove thing (eject) which jumps cartridge, it absolutely refuse to be removed. So, I don't know which revision of 2chip SNES I have. I and parents say to my friend what maybe quality of SNES (or it revisions) be different from country to country for which Nintendo produced it? Germany very important market for Nintendo, it prosperity and rich, and Nintendo do they best to give Germany best possible quality, in Germany quality very valued and important. Many years passed, but every summer, I playing in retro consoles, and in my SNES. I like retro games from time of my childhood. In city I have SNES classic mini and PlayStation classic (mini). Sometimes in internet I saw videos about "2chip vs 1 chip" SNES console, where people try to compare it and see some difference. How I understand, it hard to see this difference it so little, and even when you have a clue where to look it very hard to see. This difference exist, but it not so obvious for say "Wow!" I thinking about it, and I not so sure what 1chip console really better when 2chips, I try to look at this from logical point of view and analogy from technical change in other technic. Everybody hear about existance of "budget PC", for exaple PC on Intel Celeron processor, which one made work of 2 chips. It "budget PC" cheaply because of using 1chip, not 2, it work slow and worse when normal PC with 2chips, but it work, be cheaply - main idea for creation of this PC. So, I think in theme how 2chip replaced by 1 - it looking the same story. I not understand how 1chip can be better when 2chip? 2chip obviosly more expensive, and I think it must be better, especially when we talking about old consoles. I think number of chips very important for old technic. Sure, different revision with different chips and it number - it all give different, but is it give real preference in quality? And yet nobody not be able to convince me what "1chip" really so much better (better picture not different picture) when 2chip console. I think it all very fishily, and I will not surprise if someday we will know what about "1chip" be the myth, and main idea be for people (whom create it) to get more money and sell cheaply consoles at high price and do it artificially more expensive when "2chip". This what I think after overlook a lot of "compare" videos. Sure, maybe I not right, but I tell how it looks from the outside, when one video after another you see difference but not see real much better picture. Thanks to everyone for attention. RetroGaming Forever!✌😎 P.S.Please sorry for my poor English.
The only way you can have a 1 chip SNES is if it was the last production run. So figure 1996 or so just before the SNES Mini came out. The 1 chip will have slightly better picture quality compared to an old 2 chip SNES. You can see videos of there comparison. It's not super noticable without being modded for RGB out. Even then most retro up scalers will clean up the image from a modded console anyways. So basically in my opinion it's really not worth the effort. The SNES had better and more consistent video output compared to say the Sega Genesis with all of its various board revisions and on top of that video output chips that went with the same revisions.
@@lohermosodeserboricua1508 well then you'll have to find someone to do the work for you. At the very least buy a multi meter and just check the battery voltage.
question did your older snes board had problems reading fx games like star fox? I just got star fox for my nes and the 3d models are gliched and crashes on the bigging intro im worried that my consol is broken
Nope. That's probably down to dirty pins or pins that have never been used before. Remember FX games used the outside pins on the cartridge socket and there's a good chance that whoever owned the snes before you never had any fx games.
OR it could be that the game itself has an issue. FX games use surface mount components which are known to have cracked solder joints with age and use.
@@RobertNES816 ok i concluded the problem its starfox ill see if i can exchange it with another cart at the gamestore i got it from i tested the game stunt race fx worked fine the 3d models wernt jumping/distorting like starfox so im happy its not my snes also thanks for the tips 😀
I really want the SNES jr more because of it's rarity than the quality, it's a cool looking console to show in the shelve, plus, I already own the fist SNES model.
This was a few years ago, so the prices went up I guess. I actually traded this mini for a near mint one actually 😂 but yeah I'm basically done collecting now.
@@RobertNES816 yep prices went up even if theres clones and mini systems out there. i just ordered a snes 101 and came to see it in action. thanks for doing this video.
I honestly thought you were joking lol. There is no such thing as SNES Mini games. The SNES Mini is just a smaller hardware revision of the original SNES. Any SNES game will work in the SNES Mini.
pavy415 maybe only a tiny bit and that only happens on Super FX chip games. The Mini is definitely superior when you are using RGB. retrorgb.com/snesversioncompare.html
I'm usually a Nintendo Fan but I'm more of a Sega Genesis Guy of the 16 Bit Era because the Exclusives on the Super Nintendo are Mostly Sequels from the NES by the time I got the Original Sega Genesis I was all "I don't want a Crappy Super Nintendo I want a Sega Genesis" I think the Genesis has better Graphics and better Exclusives than the Super Nintendo (No Offense to Nintendo Fans like myself) the only Games I love on the Super Nintendo are Super Mario World and Yoshi's Island I love both but I love Yoshi's Island better I also love the Original Super Mario Kart I have a Super Mario Kart Poster on my Bedroom wall and I have a Super Mario Kart Shirt of the Original Box Art and it says Super Nintendo on the back of the Tag (As you guys can tell I love Super Mario) my Favorite Super Nintendo Game of all time is Yoshi's Island I'm a Longtime Nintendo Fan but I gotta say Sega Genesis is alot better like I said because of the Graphics and the Exclusives like if you guys know me: I'm a Huge Fan of the Sega Genesis if you meet me in Person I would tell you how much love it so as I Mentioned Earlier I'm not trying to offend Nintendo Fans like myself but I'm usually a Nintendo Fan so there you go Sega Genesis Wins
Robert NES816 lol there is no good HDMI mods for the Snes right now, it's just random guys on forums just doing sketchy conversations like getting YPbPr from the board and converting it to HDMI and spitting out 240p in HDMI which is causes a lot of artifacts and compatibility issues. A true HDMI mod would probably need an FPGA and an upscaler built in like how the NES HDMI mod is.
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One thing that i learned now is that i will never sell a console again :-) I will keep my consoles, because man, how i feel nostalgic when seeing this. Just pre-ordered a Mini - NES :-D
I love this stuff lol. I'm stuck in the 80's and 90's in terms of Video Games, I love everything about that time.
@@RobertNES816
Late 80's & early 90's pop culture can't be beat! ;) Where's the time machine when you need one? These days as far as modern gaming goes, i focus on Switch, with a splash of VR & PS5. Neither of which can compete against being a kid and gaming it up during the 8-16 bit generations. Pop culture took a noticeable decline at around 96, and it was officially over by the 2000's.
@@NintenPizza Couldn't agree more. Everything changed after 2000.
I've had the smaller version 2 since the late 90's. Still works and in great condition. I like how it looks better and it takes up less room
One advantage of the original SNES is that it works with the HD Retrovision component video cable, without any modding. These cables provide an amazingly clear picture.
I'll have to invest in those cables at some point
Totally worth it, especially if hooking up to a CRT
@@RobertNES816the sooner the better. You will not regret it
@14:42 the game seems slower on the og rather than on the jr to me. You were really popping the gun on the Jr 😂😂
Nowadays when you "SNES mini" people think you're referring to the SNES classic from 2017. It's all very confusing.
I've had the original Super NES since 2002. It still works. I saw the New-Styles Super NES in the late 90's to early 2000's.
I once had the original SNES, non-1Chip, for the longest time as a kid until hard times in 2018 caused me to sadly lose the legendary console (not broken, just went missing). I now have a stock Jr. version to replace it, though it costed $130. In comparison, it works like a charm like I remembered when running games, but since it is 100% 1Chip, the picture is sharper, but the white levels are too bright. For authenticity, I perfer the original pre-1Chip SNES and I will look for another working one, but the SNES Jr. is surely worth in my collection given how rare and expensive they are nowadays. It's not perfect, but it is way better than having a clone system, as it still has the raw hardware of the original model.
...And I strongly recommend using a CRT TV, not a flatscreen when showcasing old consoles.
If you get the retrovision SNES component cables, it has a contrast switch that fixes the brightness issues on the 1chip.
Looking back on these old videos of the Snes Jr. I've got one now that has been upgraded for RGB. It's got a great picture on it and works flawlessly.
Very informative video! One thing that I've noticed, that I don't see mentioned often, is how the audio on the original (SHVC-CPU-01) SNES is ever so slightly better than on the 1chip version. It's likely because of the more fleshed-out sound hardware. I could be completely wrong, but it's an observation I've made.
The SNES Mini is actually a better SNES than the original as far as video output. It is what is known as a 1-CHIP SNES, meaning it has a unified CPU+PPU architecture, and this unified chip produces a cleaner video signal. There are some 1-CHIP versions of the standard SNES as well, but they are difficult to locate. The only issue is that the SNES Jr. is missing the motherboard traces for S-Video chroma and luma, so if you want to output S-Video from your SNES Jr., you will need to crack the console open and add those traces back (one dollar's worth of parts, and a bit of solder).
There are games that have weird graphical issues with 1-CHIP SNES models, but they are few and far between. That said, all SNES have the same CPU, and are all equally "powerful". This, for reference, is a SNES Jr. comparing the standard composite signal with the re-added S-Video: www.twitch.tv/screevo/v/81106316
More specifically, it is generally SuperFX games (Star Fox, Stunt Racer, etc) that have graphical issues with a 1-CHIP SNES, but there aren't a ton of SuperFX games out there.
I don't know why people continue to cling to this rhetoric. Increased sharpness and overblown white levels isn't "better".
I agree, the snes mini does run a bit slower for FX games, but the definition between the blacks and colours are so much better. The trick to getting good video on the cheap with no mods on the snes mini is to run it through a good crt with a 3D comb filter. Make sure to turn the sharpness all the way down and you will notice the quality is comparable to s-video and the colours are more vibrant and sharper. I think the best TV's to use are the Sony Wega's and the JVC i'art.
I cracked my SNES Mini open and added S-Video by soldering in jumpers from the chroma and luma pins on the amp over to the multi-out, so I now have an S-Video capable 1-Chip SNES Jr. It is beautiful. I capture my SNES directly for twitch streaming, and don't apply any filtering to it other than standard de-interlacing.
Blu_Haze on a pvm/bvm through RGB, yes it is much better on a 1Chip/Jr.
The mini is no slower than the original models. It has better video output quality on composite than all the others and even beats the original launch revision's quality through s-video. Also, the vertical line through the middle that most super nintendos have was nearly completely removed from that model. It just falls short on its looks and how it's pretty bare bones as far as snes goes.
Very much true, considering I once had a non-1Chip SNES and now have a Jr.
I’m gonna get Mini for 50 bucks tomorrow, with SMWorld. I already have the first SNES but is going to be nice to have both 😎🤘🏼
Most importantly also the Japanese super famicom
Love both the Super NES and the Super NES mini (a.k.a. New-Style Super NES, SNES Jr., Super NES Jr., Super Nintendo Jr., SNES 2, Super NES 2, Super Nintendo 2)!
Mode 7 on our SNES doesn’t work at all. Are later models more likely to have working mode 7?
both snes are cool and i did grow up with the original model but something about the snes 101 mini model looks and seems better if i could choose personally I'd go with the snes mini/101 👍
I had a snes mini when i was like 6 or 7. Its dead now, and I am gonna try to repair it in a day or two. PRAY FOR ME FAM
Matthew :O how'd it go?
so are you like, 9?
How'd it go?
*The picture is fantastic on the Mini because of a powerful AV signal!*
Hello! I from Eastern Europe. I have 2chip SNES (SNSP-001A(FRG), Pal, made for Germany), parents bought it in end of 1994. It one of the most big moments from my childhood. Later in beginings of 2000's, friend come to me to play in SNES games, and he ask me which my SNES is 1 or 2 chips, I be surprised. I say what it bought in 1994, he be surprised and said what he thought what my SNES 1chip, because picture very good and he not saw "soap" in angles of picture. Later he come again with special screwdriver, to see what inside my SNES, but we not be able to go deep enough, because we not be able to remove thing (eject) which jumps cartridge, it absolutely refuse to be removed. So, I don't know which revision of 2chip SNES I have. I and parents say to my friend what maybe quality of SNES (or it revisions) be different from country to country for which Nintendo produced it? Germany very important market for Nintendo, it prosperity and rich, and Nintendo do they best to give Germany best possible quality, in Germany quality very valued and important.
Many years passed, but every summer, I playing in retro consoles, and in my SNES. I like retro games from time of my childhood. In city I have SNES classic mini and PlayStation classic (mini).
Sometimes in internet I saw videos about "2chip vs 1 chip" SNES console, where people try to compare it and see some difference.
How I understand, it hard to see this difference it so little, and even when you have a clue where to look it very hard to see. This difference exist, but it not so obvious for say "Wow!" I thinking about it, and I not so sure what 1chip console really better when 2chips, I try to look at this from logical point of view and analogy from technical change in other technic.
Everybody hear about existance of "budget PC", for exaple PC on Intel Celeron processor, which one made work of 2 chips. It "budget PC" cheaply because of using 1chip, not 2, it work slow and worse when normal PC with 2chips, but it work, be cheaply - main idea for creation of this PC. So, I think in theme how 2chip replaced by 1 - it looking the same story. I not understand how 1chip can be better when 2chip? 2chip obviosly more expensive, and I think it must be better, especially when we talking about old consoles. I think number of chips very important for old technic. Sure, different revision with different chips and it number - it all give different, but is it give real preference in quality?
And yet nobody not be able to convince me what "1chip" really so much better (better picture not different picture) when 2chip console. I think it all very fishily, and I will not surprise if someday we will know what about "1chip" be the myth, and main idea be for people (whom create it) to get more money and sell cheaply consoles at high price and do it artificially more expensive when "2chip".
This what I think after overlook a lot of "compare" videos. Sure, maybe I not right, but I tell how it looks from the outside, when one video after another you see difference but not see real much better picture.
Thanks to everyone for attention.
RetroGaming Forever!✌😎
P.S.Please sorry for my poor English.
The only way you can have a 1 chip SNES is if it was the last production run. So figure 1996 or so just before the SNES Mini came out.
The 1 chip will have slightly better picture quality compared to an old 2 chip SNES. You can see videos of there comparison. It's not super noticable without being modded for RGB out. Even then most retro up scalers will clean up the image from a modded console anyways. So basically in my opinion it's really not worth the effort. The SNES had better and more consistent video output compared to say the Sega Genesis with all of its various board revisions and on top of that video output chips that went with the same revisions.
childhoood memories ty
what's the name of the game he was playing at first after spider man?
question I have games with the original save battery should I worry if the batterys in them will die soon??
I mean it's a gamble. You can test the batteries with a multi meter. If they're above 2.8 volts your fine.
@@RobertNES816 theirs another problem I have I dont have a multimeter or any soldering tools
@@lohermosodeserboricua1508 well then you'll have to find someone to do the work for you. At the very least buy a multi meter and just check the battery voltage.
question did your older snes board had problems reading fx games like star fox?
I just got star fox for my nes and the 3d models are gliched and crashes on the bigging intro im worried that my consol is broken
Nope. That's probably down to dirty pins or pins that have never been used before. Remember FX games used the outside pins on the cartridge socket and there's a good chance that whoever owned the snes before you never had any fx games.
OR it could be that the game itself has an issue. FX games use surface mount components which are known to have cracked solder joints with age and use.
But try cleaning the game and console before making any conclusions.
@@RobertNES816 thanks !
i have a another fx game coming in the mail that i can try but i will try to clean the pins
@@RobertNES816 ok i concluded the problem its starfox ill see if i can exchange it with another cart at the gamestore i got it from
i tested the game stunt race fx worked fine
the 3d models wernt jumping/distorting like starfox so im happy its not my snes
also thanks for the tips 😀
I might do one on my own one day.
Does the same cartridge works in both consoles?
Yup they're both Super Nintendo's
I really want the SNES jr more because of it's rarity than the quality, it's a cool looking console to show in the shelve, plus, I already own the fist SNES model.
Same here. My SNES Jr just sits on a shelf lol.
I'm getting a Sega Genesis 3 and super Nintendo jr
lol @ this guy for testing these systems on a fucking HD TV and not a CRT
50$ for the snes mini ? wow u got a good deal. they sell for like 150 now.
This was a few years ago, so the prices went up I guess. I actually traded this mini for a near mint one actually 😂 but yeah I'm basically done collecting now.
@@RobertNES816 yep prices went up even if theres clones and mini systems out there. i just ordered a snes 101 and came to see it in action. thanks for doing this video.
I know, they cost way more than they should be these days. Mine cost 130.
11:52 and 20:53
I grew up with the original Nintendo entertainment system original Nintendo Gameboy and original super Nintendo entertainment system
Same here.
Thank you bro
Can you play Mini Super Nintendo games in an original SNES console?
Jasmine Staton lol
Robert NES816 Lol can we?
I honestly thought you were joking lol. There is no such thing as SNES Mini games. The SNES Mini is just a smaller hardware revision of the original SNES. Any SNES game will work in the SNES Mini.
Robert NES816 Lol thank you so much. I was so serious though☺
Lol y everyone uses lol?
hey Rob you can clearly tell the difference from the original and the jr. see you at VGTP
Nope! I'm gonna say no unless you get the mini modded.
Super Nintendo jr? What the hell is that?
osityan Newer budget version of the SNES released in 1997 or 98 I think.
Just a late compact redesign of the original, basically the budget version.
Actually the SNES2 is completely different it was released a long time after the SNES they are a lot more rare as well
Heff Plays The snes mini is based off the One Chip SNES so it's technically the same. They're not rare at all either.
The original and SNES Jr is barely any different at all, other than video signal.
There's also fake SNES mini's out there, RetroGameTech made a video on repairing one.
I've seen these consoles around. But I've yet to try one out.
Robert NES816 Same here.
I have yet to see any of those fake Jr ones.
so much faster on the original
pavy415 maybe only a tiny bit and that only happens on Super FX chip games. The Mini is definitely superior when you are using RGB. retrorgb.com/snesversioncompare.html
Only a very tiny bit. Pretty unnoticeable on CRTs.
I'm usually a Nintendo Fan but I'm more of a Sega Genesis Guy of the 16 Bit Era because the Exclusives on the Super Nintendo are Mostly Sequels from the NES by the time I got the Original Sega Genesis I was all "I don't want a Crappy Super Nintendo I want a Sega Genesis" I think the Genesis has better Graphics and better Exclusives than the Super Nintendo (No Offense to Nintendo Fans like myself) the only Games I love on the Super Nintendo are Super Mario World and Yoshi's Island I love both but I love Yoshi's Island better I also love the Original Super Mario Kart I have a Super Mario Kart Poster on my Bedroom wall and I have a Super Mario Kart Shirt of the Original Box Art and it says Super Nintendo on the back of the Tag (As you guys can tell I love Super Mario) my Favorite Super Nintendo Game of all time is Yoshi's Island I'm a Longtime Nintendo Fan but I gotta say Sega Genesis is alot better like I said because of the Graphics and the Exclusives like if you guys know me: I'm a Huge Fan of the Sega Genesis if you meet me in Person I would tell you how much love it so as I Mentioned Earlier I'm not trying to offend Nintendo Fans like myself but I'm usually a Nintendo Fan so there you go Sega Genesis Wins
lol I'm going to get a mini one rob
You had better! And get it modded for HDMI, that would be cool.
Robert NES816 lol there is no good HDMI mods for the Snes right now, it's just random guys on forums just doing sketchy conversations like getting YPbPr from the board and converting it to HDMI and spitting out 240p in HDMI which is causes a lot of artifacts and compatibility issues. A true HDMI mod would probably need an FPGA and an upscaler built in like how the NES HDMI mod is.
How in the hell is that so white?
Gotta keep your eyes open and find clean examples!
My snes rev. 1 is still nice and gray and not yellowed. Had it since 2005.