I have the Cinebot30 and the Thrust Linearization works, though it is sensitive to the condition of the props. Beat up props would still give the waggle, so it wants good props to fly with all the time. Nice review as always Nick!
Yes zoom zoom, nice fast run. Really liking the big tree climb power loop. I'm on the same page with the fast flight. Nice quad, good review. Thanks for the ride
Thanks for the review!! Where does this cinewhoop fit in the Geprc catalog? I guess the cinelog v2 is the flagship 25 cinewhoop but it seems the price is about the same. The cinebot is possibly more durable? I don't understand the need for both versions at around the same price. If you had to choose, which Geprc 25 whoop would you pick and why?
I think they are just keeping production to the rapid prototyping portion, hence the constant changes/innovations. It's fine by me and face it, few drones last more then 500 packs
Setting that avata up was way more complicated than it needs to be, though. Country code not set. Had to go on my pc and refresh the firmware. Now everything is fine lol. I have an s23 ultra. The fly app isn't in the Google play store lol.
Speaking of injection molds: They are working with relatively small parts with simple geometry and probably making less than 50k units per run which can be done all in house relatively cheaply(especially in Shanghai). When people talk about molds costing 10s of thousands of dollars they are talking about complex high yield molds.
Interesting. That does surprise me as when I have asked about changing our whoop frames I have been told its really expensive and not cost effective. hmmm
Saw this and decided to get one and I really love it. Did you have any crazy jitters when you add a naked gopro? Mine has crazy jitter and cant get them out even with gyroflow. Mike came with only one programmed PID profile
When considering adding weight such as an external hd camera I lean towards a larger prop as it will handle the weight better and more efficiently. This is my suggestion unless overall size is important, likely flying inside. A smaller quad will give us more margin for error when flying inside or confined spaces.
Hey man, sorry to keep asking this but I am deciding between the GEPrc darkstar 20 and the Cineon C20 V2 for inside flights and these 2 are amazing out of my decisions, what are your thoughts on them? Sorry to bug lol
🔖Hi Nick, I am willing to buy a drone that I can use to fly in small to medium parks. Which would be the one/ones that have the longest flight time? Am looking at least up to 10 minutes? (Just cruzing, no trics).
Of the top of my head I can't think of anything that might get or near 10 minutes of flight with a prop at 3 inch or smaller. At least not in the fpv space, dji camera drones will get those sorts of flight times. A larger propped quad probably wouldn't be very good in a small park. I would suggest getting something you like an more than one battery. Most when learning to fly need breaks, this is a good time to change batteries. And as we get more comfortable flying we need focus breaks to relax before the next flight.
No, Generally I don't use any stabilization for any review. I think there is one or two video when I turned on EIS on the O3 but that only impacts the video stored on the O3 and I should state that pretty clearly. Any video showing the betaflight OSD information isn't stabilized.
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks Cinebot25 or DarkStar20? I have been flying in liftoff for more than 50 hours with radiomaster boxer, and mobula 6 in acro mode for 2 months plus. The reason I am getting cinewhoop is because I will be flying indoor and for safety purpose since it comes with prop guards, and not ready for extreme stunts moves at the moment. 1. Do u guys think I should get the cinebot25 S or DarkStar20? Or any better choice for beginner? 2. Is the Integra Goggles still a good choice for now? Since Goggles 3 dont support O3 air unit and Integra's price has reduced. Thanks in advance!
@@chunkit78 I suggest going smaller. The larger the quad the more skilled we have to be in order to not spend all the fly time crashing. I can't speak to much to the goggles as I only have goggles 2. I suggest with DJI to go for the most recently released as they don't have a long history of compatibility.
Waiting on a Walksnail version you will be waiting for ever. Best to just buy one without FPV gear and install Walksnail yourself. What I did. I’m steadily getting rid of my DJI gear. Walksnail just fits me better since I fly fixedwing as well and WS has some serious range.
@@dirkgausmann9415 the dump is to big for youtube comments to accept. Here it is in my google drive. You will only be able to copy the file, no edit privileges drive.google.com/file/d/1LZqycsWEgB9x_FIHfY7Kpv2Ib-mwCXxn/view?usp=sharing
Yep. It’s gotten way too expensive anymore. I’ve put the brakes on with this hobby. I have to eat. $500 for a 2.5 inch is insane to me but I’m sure we have folks out there that would beg to differ to me🤷🙄
This entire hobby has gotten WAY to expensive. Even foam fixedwing kits are outrageous now! Unfortunately I’ve put the brakes on and probably won’t be buying anything new anymore. I’ll just maintain what I have until I can’t find parts.
I have the Cinebot30 and the Thrust Linearization works, though it is sensitive to the condition of the props. Beat up props would still give the waggle, so it wants good props to fly with all the time. Nice review as always Nick!
Yes zoom zoom, nice fast run. Really liking the big tree climb power loop. I'm on the same page with the fast flight. Nice quad, good review. Thanks for the ride
9:32 "Because I need it!"
Now I can't stop singing Highway Star, Nick! 😂
Great review. I especially love your smooth split s's or whatever you call them. A video explaining how you do those would be awesome!!
The adding O3 extra cost must be the not selling walksnail quad fee 😂
Great review as always Nick!
Thanks for the review!! Where does this cinewhoop fit in the Geprc catalog? I guess the cinelog v2 is the flagship 25 cinewhoop but it seems the price is about the same. The cinebot is possibly more durable? I don't understand the need for both versions at around the same price. If you had to choose, which Geprc 25 whoop would you pick and why?
Of those I would go with the newer Cinebot25 as I do think the prop protection will be more durable than the cinelog
Fantastic flying and review, Nick!!! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Hey Nick! Awesome video. Thanks again for your support of the 2024 micro drone race at the US Air Force Museum this year! The event was epic.
Nice. I hope everyone had a good time. I have seen a few posts on Facebook. I haven't seen much YT videos on it yet.....hopefully soon.
03 is dominant great review nick,I'm not crazy about pusher drones myself but nice looking quad!
I think they are just keeping production to the rapid prototyping portion, hence the constant changes/innovations. It's fine by me and face it, few drones last more then 500 packs
Setting that avata up was way more complicated than it needs to be, though. Country code not set. Had to go on my pc and refresh the firmware. Now everything is fine lol. I have an s23 ultra. The fly app isn't in the Google play store lol.
Great review Nick! And pricy for us Canadians lol. Thanks again
the frame look similar to pavo25 from betafpv! what motor holes have this frame?
The 1404 motor version seems to wiggle less in that way 🤔
for real estate would you pick this over Pavo 25 v2?
Speaking of injection molds: They are working with relatively small parts with simple geometry and probably making less than 50k units per run which can be done all in house relatively cheaply(especially in Shanghai). When people talk about molds costing 10s of thousands of dollars they are talking about complex high yield molds.
Interesting. That does surprise me as when I have asked about changing our whoop frames I have been told its really expensive and not cost effective. hmmm
@@NickBurnsFPVA tiny whoop frame is going to be a more expensive mold because of it's size and the tolerances needed because of that size.
i got a broken duct after the first crash, the lipo got unpluged on full throttle becouse the xt30 was verry lose...
crash got into the a field
Hey GEPrc…That sniffs out to me more around 350-4hundo. At the most.
Dope rip Nick 👍👍🇺🇸
Good review again Nick
Saw this and decided to get one and I really love it. Did you have any crazy jitters when you add a naked gopro? Mine has crazy jitter and cant get them out even with gyroflow. Mike came with only one programmed PID profile
Not in the gopro video as in the video. I do have hyperflow setting on. I did have jitters in the O3 fpv view as in the video slow flight.
What is a bad face for glasses?
Nice! But seems like GEPRC Cinelog25 V2 HD O3 is a bit better IMHO.
It can also be a DJI BNF.
Love your reviews, Nick! Hey, with a GoPro hero 10 bones, would you suggest this 25? Or the Cinebot 30? Thanks!
When considering adding weight such as an external hd camera I lean towards a larger prop as it will handle the weight better and more efficiently. This is my suggestion unless overall size is important, likely flying inside. A smaller quad will give us more margin for error when flying inside or confined spaces.
Hey man, sorry to keep asking this but I am deciding between the GEPrc darkstar 20 and the Cineon C20 V2 for inside flights and these 2 are amazing out of my decisions, what are your thoughts on them? Sorry to bug lol
Have you seen this video? ruclips.net/video/87paFkhZLIY/видео.html
Hi sir is 03 connected via conectors or we have to solder it?
connector almost always on all the videos on my channel
🔖Hi Nick, I am willing to buy a drone that I can use to fly in small to medium parks. Which would be the one/ones that have the longest flight time? Am looking at least up to 10 minutes? (Just cruzing, no trics).
Of the top of my head I can't think of anything that might get or near 10 minutes of flight with a prop at 3 inch or smaller. At least not in the fpv space, dji camera drones will get those sorts of flight times. A larger propped quad probably wouldn't be very good in a small park. I would suggest getting something you like an more than one battery. Most when learning to fly need breaks, this is a good time to change batteries. And as we get more comfortable flying we need focus breaks to relax before the next flight.
The design looks awfully familiar. 🤔
maybe Pavo25 First Version?🤔😆
Nick, are these images stabilized? good smooth flight
No, Generally I don't use any stabilization for any review. I think there is one or two video when I turned on EIS on the O3 but that only impacts the video stored on the O3 and I should state that pretty clearly. Any video showing the betaflight OSD information isn't stabilized.
what are the different between cinelog 25 v2 vs cinelog 25 s
motor size 1404 vs 1505
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks
Cinebot25 or DarkStar20?
I have been flying in liftoff for more than 50 hours with radiomaster boxer, and mobula 6 in acro mode for 2 months plus. The reason I am getting cinewhoop is because I will be flying indoor and for safety purpose since it comes with prop guards, and not ready for extreme stunts moves at the moment.
1. Do u guys think I should get the cinebot25 S or DarkStar20? Or any better choice for beginner?
2. Is the Integra Goggles still a good choice for now? Since Goggles 3 dont support O3 air unit and Integra's price has reduced.
Thanks in advance!
@@chunkit78 I suggest going smaller. The larger the quad the more skilled we have to be in order to not spend all the fly time crashing. I can't speak to much to the goggles as I only have goggles 2. I suggest with DJI to go for the most recently released as they don't have a long history of compatibility.
Xin chào! Cảm ơn video của bạn.
Tôi tự làm nó với mục đích racing, tôi nên chọn moto 1505 4600kv hay 1506 4200kv hay 1404 4500kv
Cảm ơn bạn!
Generally for racing we would want higher kv motors
@@NickBurnsFPV cảm ơn bạn rất nhiều
I bought the avata Pro View combo. Now I can start buying 03 air unit drones.
Still waiting for moonlight cinebot 25
Waiting on a Walksnail version you will be waiting for ever. Best to just buy one without FPV gear and install Walksnail yourself. What I did. I’m steadily getting rid of my DJI gear. Walksnail just fits me better since I fly fixedwing as well and WS has some serious range.
@Freebird_67 yea sp many dofferent options. 1s version. Regular one. 2w version. 4k version. DJI now trying to catch up with O4 lite
which pid profile are you using for o3?
I believe it by default is set to pid profile 1, which has the tune geprc setup.
@@NickBurnsFPV Thank you!
@@NickBurnsFPVcould you send me a dump of the pids? Accidentally resetted mine 🙃
@@dirkgausmann9415 the dump is to big for youtube comments to accept. Here it is in my google drive. You will only be able to copy the file, no edit privileges drive.google.com/file/d/1LZqycsWEgB9x_FIHfY7Kpv2Ib-mwCXxn/view?usp=sharing
Ypu could've made a bi blade prop set from those you've broke😅
lol yea
牛逼啊,老铁
Yeah a 2.5 !!
wind hates this quad
wind hates all these at this format
$500,- for the O3 version ☹️
That’s no fun anymore…
Yep. It’s gotten way too expensive anymore. I’ve put the brakes on with this hobby. I have to eat. $500 for a 2.5 inch is insane to me but I’m sure we have folks out there that would beg to differ to me🤷🙄
Ya, to much money for o3 camera for this quad. No/Go for me.
This entire hobby has gotten WAY to expensive. Even foam fixedwing kits are outrageous now! Unfortunately I’ve put the brakes on and probably won’t be buying anything new anymore. I’ll just maintain what I have until I can’t find parts.
guess having a good face for glasses is better than a good face for a mask
lol yea. Or a face or radio :) In college I was on the radio for a semester :)
No snail no interest
What snail
I really miss a new cinewhoop with snail in it:/
Unfortunately all manufacfurers do all fat cinewhoops with o3... Is miss the old times with 20g performance whoops 🙃 (or 25g with a snail 🤷♂️)
Yep, if your mounting a bones or naked gopro.. you don't need the 03. No snail no interest