Unfortunately by the book of the law it wouldn't be making terroristic threats, since that would include making threats purely for the purpose of political gain.
I am sorry but as someome with high functioning autism. The brother is no way high functioning if he thinks threatening this stuff is okay with it, And hurting a dog sexually no.
He may have Autism, I don't know. However Autism doesn't do this to someone's behavior. This is something different, this is something bad. - A Fellow Autistic
@@mizal321 how? She literally the only person who has done anything to get the brother help. Brother hasnt been around the kids soon as the homocidal stuff came out and its obvious hes been lying about being better.
The husbands got his head up his butt. At this point Op should just take her kids and leave him since he cares more about his ego than protecting his family.
Story 1: the husband is not understanding what it means to protect his family.... one should not puff up their chest if it will end up traumatizing their kids in the process. Focus on protecting them from that scene.
If they had a legitimate reason that they couldn't move, I'd understand if he kept his mouth shut, got a gun (maybe a large dog or two) and installed that damned alarm. Even then it would require a long and sobering talk. But being perfectly able to move away and still doing nothing other than fantasising of a lost fight? Dude has his priorities messed up. This guy never heard that in a knife fight the loser dies on the streets and the winner in the ambulance. PD: people tend to underestimate how powerful large dogs can be. If properly trained, 3 dogs have over a 90% chance of taking down someone with an AR or shotgun in a home invasion scenario. The proportions are true given any amount of attackers that wouldn't need National Guard deployment.
Story 1: Dude, I get wanting to protect your family and seem like the strong one, but when your BIL is threatening to kill your entire family it is NOT THE TIME!!! GTFO of there and then you can call yourself a brave man!
Story 2: I'm having a hard time not forgiving the mother on the pure thing that she went through the gf stuff in general and then spread her medical history. She has shown no remorse in the entire story. Everyone else has except her
Story 1. Sounds like the husband wants to be an action hero get a life insurance for him and if possible the brother then take the kids and gtfo until you can collect on the policy.
Nah, no, no, no…OP in story 1 needs to leave her husband. He’s unsupportive and mentally abusive. He’ll tell her parents and suddenly her brother will be on them again. Let the brother and husband duke it out but OP and her kids need to get away from both.
Ops husband is freaking stupid! He screams 'hurr durr I am so badass i can beat up 20 men without breaking a sweat duuuuh' kind of mood. He thinks putting himself and his family in harm's way is protecting them? He thinks he can beat someone who's much bigger and more insane than he is? If he wants to indulge his ego, fine! Tell him to go to the brother RIGHT NOW and start something. But OP needs to get her and her children out of harm's way! Threats have been made multiple times! Plans have been set! There's no way anyone should be sitting around twiddling their thumbs waiting for what will happen next!
The dumbest part is that even if he was right about being able to take the brother, there’s still a very high danger to the kids being hurt or traumatized. Like even if his ideal scenario plays out the kids could still wake up to the window smashed and their crazed uncle in their home, that’s something that can traumatize them.
@@RHuipe13 He most likely didn't think all that through, like I've been saying in other comments since some people don't understand some people just want to fight and enjoy it, doesn't have necessarily anything to do with ego, however there's a time and place and its called MMA. Not like that's likely to happen anymore as OP said she and the kids will be leaving the house while the husband stays behind in which case you do get the best of both worlds. The husband can indulge in wanting to fight in a reckless way, the brother will be arrested and has no way out, and the children are safe so its practically the ideal solution since running away isn't going to solve the issue either.
@@reflex9238 I agree he didn’t think it through and I wouldn’t hold it against him if it was an initial reaction and that’s all. It’s the fact he stuck to it and made moving so much more difficult for op which is why I would say he is an idiot and needs to get over himself. It also sounds like he is very wrong, considering she describes the brother as over six foot and her husband as much smaller he’d definitely struggle in a straight up fight. Add on to that he would probably show up with a weapon and the idea “I’d just kick his ass” becomes even more dumb.
Story 2 I'm so angry for OP. It never should have come to this. They're way off in the weeds instead of "why the eff were you going through my medical shit" ever even being asked. AND YOU KNOW that's why the mom won't let this go. As soon as she does she's the bad guy for opening the can.
She doesn’t just have a brother problem, she has a husband problem. The men in my family wouldn’t think twice about moving if their families were in danger.
Those aren't intrusive thoughts at that point. Intrusive thoughts are thoughts no one wants, are scared of, are things that aren't controlled but.. the brother enjoys them, is planning them out, and was about to straight up act on them. He is getting pleasure from it. Those aren't intrusive anymore.
Yeah, those are straight up plans, he even started acting on them(getting and modifying weapons). At some point he will learn to stop telling people about those plans and will just straight up implement them. The best case scenario would be him staying in prison for life, it seems like he can’t be saved.
intrusive thoughts is one thing but literally preparing and buying equipment its like whole another level. In my country you can think and even to some degree talk about committing a crime but it gets illegal if you put plan on paper and start doing preparations.
Op 2 and her boyfriend are so wholesome, I truly hope The best for them, because of hiv and aids and the stigma with the LGBT, alot of people think women can only spread the virus or not actually be affected (ive heard this in my state lol) and it's disgusting that someone no matter how they got the std would be treated so badly.
how does dad go from, 'ill buy a gun and stop him if he comes here' to 'op its all your fault' like dude... you said youd shoot your son. is it compassion? like old yellar?
Why is no one talking about how OP was willing to have a homicidal maniac around her kids until it was them whom he turned that towards her huaband is wrong but his life is being uprooted also but hes a man so its invalidated
From what is sounds his time around her kids was before he ever admitted to the homicidal thoughts and the weapons he had. Because the moment she found out she immediately called the police. Not to mention from the updates it sounds like the husband has his own level of issues honestly think that they need to divorce
This is true. Hubby says that he can stop him. I think hubby is tired of all the threats and fear that BIL is causing. He has known that BIL is serious, not just fantasizing. I believe he came to that conclusion much sooner than OP or any of her family. Now after all the threats,BIL being hospitalized and released in no time, the cops always saying that they can't do anything, he's had it. I believe that hubby knows there's 1 way to actually end all of this BS. He realizes that even moving to another state doesn't guarantee safety. He's willing to end BIL and put all of this crap to an end. OP doesn't see any of this. She sees it as him playing "Big Man". Right now brother standing trial. There's only so much prison time the judge can give. Unless everyone is lucky and brother never "walks" out of prison or the brother tries to attack the judge. He will find OP. Brother will start all over again. There are people in this world that should not have been saved at birth. Like the brother. There are people who need to be taken out of this world. For themselves and the rest of us.
@@lindah3803Doesn't change the fact that the husband is a jerk and a coward. He's afraid of getting a new job, the mortgage, and that the brother would follow. Guy is so scared he refuses to think about the 12-18 hours a day he isn't home or the half hour in the bathroom a day.
as someone who has poor mental health, i have once hit rock bottom and had an episode. that one commenter that said nobody can take someone who is having a mental health episode, is entirely correct. in my rage i was able to take down BOTH my own father and one of my older brothers when they are both over 6'3 250lb. i was just a small teenage female. but that day i turned into a beast. never play with mental health.
I like how the people who commented on story 1 are thinking this happened not that long ago but the OP said this was decades ago where the mindset of everything was different. Like how people back then believed that therapy is for crazy people and serial killers.
Story 1: OP brother is close enough to complete his fantasy with axxe and parents... OP dad got gûnns to act on his son but mad at OP coz it's just harmless fantasy 😂 Someone gonna get first blood and its not OP and her family.
Having thoughts about kiliing people is not a crime. Actively planning to kill a person , and implementing the plan is. Terroristic threats are a crime.
People need to stop making excuses like they are just unwell or they can fix them. If a person needs professional help then they need professional help. I had a family friend have a phycotic episode and started thinking people were after them and people poisoned them, and i was the one looking after them and because i had to make sure they take meds and food they started to think i was doing something and would start locking me out then start following me everywhere even to the toilet, going through my stuff and even started stealing stuff from my purse like id money even toiletries and cloths. They started threatening me that they knew what i was doing (they acused me of horrible things) and they were going to get "rid" of me and i told thier family and got them excusses as they didnt want to section them. They attacked me a few times each times same excuse it wasnt till they needed hospitalised for thier physical health as they refused to take med for pre exisiting health conditions that they got sectioned. And there is where they got help they needed and the family realised that they couldnt handle it
Why people telling her to move because people don’t know that’s kind pricey and can cause your kids have resentment towards you when I can solve the problem with under 900$ dollars 🙏🏽
Story 1: i don't think husband is as bad as people think. Look at this from a different perspective. Wife up and decides her family is moving without talking to the husband first and decides they need to move so far away that they need brand new jobs. She doesnt know anything about buying a home or even how a mortgage works and expects husband to just "do it." Husbsnd gets fed up and gets admittedly nessecarily snarky with her but she casually drops that she's been making him read books to teach him to do things how she wants them done. Wife has a legitimate concern but it looks like it may be a "cry wolf" situation. She is regularly controlling and neurotic and the husband is getting fed up with it. "You have to find us a new house and find yourself a new job" was just the final straw.
I also do wanna mention that let's pretend that moving isn't the biggest challenge in the world and everything was done well without a hitch. Okay what happens when the brother finds their new address, because one can't keep moving an infinite amount of times as they'd easily be left on the street after a while. Husband strikes me as the guy who wanted to fight for the sake of it, and forgot about the safety of his children something which I believe the wife should definitely have communicated with him on that. Either way I don't see what's the problem with just leaving the house temporarily with the kids while the husband stays to deal with the situation, as it beats having to sell the house and having to move which even then doesn't guarantee that he won't should during the process as this all takes time or find their new address. It would guarantee the safety of their children and if they're paranoid he'll find them then someone else can stay with the wife and the children while the husband stays at the house, because in both cases if the brother does something well he's landing himself in cuffs by law enforcement and get a lengthy sentence which would give them all the piece of mind they want.
I missed the part where that's my problem. In all seriousness really looks like you missed the fact that law enforcement got involved and made it so he's no longer allowed to purchase guns given his mental history.
@@reflex9238 yeah getting law enforcement involved everytime must be a good use of their time and recourses. I suppose having a system in place to make it harder for them purchase a gun before law enforcement got involved would be too easy I guess and boy, do you guys like to make things difficult (I'm assuming American because you responded with such ferver) for instantance why do you need to file your taxes even tho the IRS know, they won't tell you for some reason and you will face jail time even if you're a cent off. Real simple like. Also why do I get the feeling you enjoy chowing down on huge bowls of fecal matter?
@@bazzascott8935 Its hilarious how you think that system isn't already in place, but alright genius what specific plans do you have in mind that could've prevented the brother from even acquiring a firearm before his declining mental health?
@@reflex9238 I missed the part where that's my problem. I think you missed the fact it's not my job to fix America's poor gun control law's. Go finish your bowl of 💩
"We are not gun people" I mean... okay but good luck waiting for the police when the psycho shows up. I'm sure nothing will happen to you for the 15+ minutes it takes them to arrive
Story 1 - That was horrifying. Like something from a psychological horror movie script. If he doesn't kill op or someone in the family he's going to end up killing somebody or a lot of people. He's building up the nerve to actually do it. Op's husband is an idiot. He's the guy that gets killed first in every horror movie. Op should proceed with divorce regardless of what happens. Story 2 - That's just tragic. I feel so sad for op. Boggles my mind knowing that these kinds of bullies go into nursing. I don't blame op for being nervous but it's a good sign if he's defended op.
I wonder if there is any stimuli that trigger his flight or freeze response, or if the psychiatric ward is legally allowed to induse one. I dont know how common this knowledge is so please excuse if this sounds pompous; OP did the right thing in doing their best to conceal how much their brother's words affected them from him. Also, is the brother in ABA? I understand that the brother can squirm his way out of stuff, and ABA can be hit or miss especially so for those who dont want to change.
Ok, anyone else thinking the husband wants op's brother to kill op and the kids?? Like just the "he's tired of taking care of the kids" is ringing alarm bells in my head.
The husband in the first story I somewhat understand but I can't condone his actions as there's a time in place for that. For everyone saying that its all about ego its not, some guys just actually want to fight and enjoy doing so they're like real life Saiyans, however like I said there's a time and place for that and its called taking up any martial art to get it out of one's system in a non harmful and of course non idiotic way. If OP's description of him being a great husband is true then surely if she talked to him about how he's choosing his own selfish desires to want to fight someone, over the safety of his children by letting them stay there it would surely snap him out of it and bring him back into reality as this looks like something he didn't fully think about as the only thing on his mind is enjoying a fight. For dealing with the brother since he's been in and out of the psych ward if he does commit a crime then he's getting sentenced without any second chances or he'd be committed to the worse kind of psych ward with no way out as he'd get the real life insanity plead which for anyone that doesn't know is far worse than a jail or prison sentence. Given that the husband seems gunho about staying at the house to deal with him, I'd say OP should just let him if he does try to get OP and the children to stay then I'd consider the husband AH. Unfortunately given the restrictions of the law the brother would need to actually do something to show he'd be a danger to others, so if the husband does stay for the situation go down then the brother is done as now there'd be evidence of the brother being a danger, because unfortunately running away isn't going to put him behind bars and it'd cause more stress in the long term since she'd be in constant fear. Basically if OP really wants this all done and not to be living in constant fear someone has to be the fall guy and in this case the husband inadvertently has decided to be the fall guy due to his want to fight, so looks like the situation would solve itself.
I feel for the woman in the first story, but honestly, the way she's wording it makes it sound like she's blaming the Autism for her brother's actions.Just because someone has low/no empathy doesn't make them want to kill people, there's clearly something else going on behind the scenes, but the fact she keeps bringing up the Autism seriously makes it seem like she's demonizing it because her brother happens to have it.
10:33 Psycho brother and husband... OP listen to yourself... at this point, take the kids and find a new place and don't tell your brother OR husband... if this danger to your KIDS isn't registering for you husband, that means his entire family is at risk... and warn the schopls and your kids thay if they see uncle to run like hell and hide
I will say this that the whole situation with the 1st story is bullshit. Most likely, the police and FBI were getting flack and shit from the mother, which is why they couldn't do anything. Because yes, it is a crime to buy weapons with the intent to kill. His very confessions, as well as the fact that he lied his way out of the mental hospital and tried to do it once before, and even the doctors stated that the medication wasn't working. At this point, he would be viewed as a threat and put in a cell or permanent mental institution housing as he is a risk to others. He clearly shows Sociopathic and Psycopathic tendencies. There is no way the doctors and police would behave this way without someone trying to cause problems.
Perhaps the non gun people are starting to understand their appeal, like no shit a restraining order isn't going to protect you from your ax murderering brother, it's a peice of paper! Know what's not paper and will stop him? Lead!
Story 2 ATZ and other treatments such as prophylactic meds are loosing their effectiveness as the virus evolves so yeah I would worry if I was that guys mom. It was called the gay disease back when my aunt got it and we watched so many die and be treated as untouchable by medical professionals. The fear is not unfounded. It’s unlikely her son will get it but the possibility is still very much there and if he can’t take the meds for whatever medical reasons… it is not going to go well for him. BF’s Mom is definitely old enough to remember the days I remember and has every right to fear for her son.
I think something like “ I don’t want my husband and brother to kill each other. “ would have worked better. Telling a man that he can’t protect his family in his home isn’t ever going to be productive, regardless of the truth of the statement. If OP wanted kindness from her husband she should have lead with it. OP’s example of kindness was just him agreeing with her, not disagreeing kindly. Overall a garbage situation and I hope everyone is safe, except the brother, obviously.
I'd pissed that no one not even in the comments has the few braincells to you know actually get the guy in prison so they can all rest peacefully. The wife leaving with the kids and staying at a family member's house for safety while the husband deals with the situation so even if he doesn't win that fight he'd have evidence of an attempted breaking and entering, possession of a deadly weapon, and attempted murder. I don't understand how no one has even thought of this, the wife and kids get protected, while the husband works on sending the guy to jail which everything works out great.
Story 1 the husband is an idiot for not wanting to leave. But the wife is just insane. She's scared of someone who literally in a mental hospital that refuses to let them out. She's one of those "scared of guns" types and sounds like a Karen.
There is a difference between being a coward, an egotistical Moron and being smart, feel free to play with your own life but never tell anyone else what they can do with theirs. Safety over ego all the time, every time.
@@kinosaga21 Okay genius tell what they're gonna do next when he finds their new address, keep running and spending money? The situation is going to come down to having a physical confrontation NO MATTER WHAT. Delaying it till the last possible second in a coward's way out, because here's something that they can actually do and that is prepare for it in order to make the situation favor them when it comes down to it. The wife and kids can all go stay at a trusted family member, while the husband stays back to deal with it and regardless of the outcome of what happens to the husband in that situation the brother is getting in cuffs if he seriously tries anything. Given that the biggest thing that the wife wants is you know peace of mind, having him sent to jail or prison is the best option, which is not possible when you're a coward and choose to keep running away.
@@MacerXGP IDK about that I've been the destructive mentally ill person about to unalived my family n the police took that ish seriously and locked me up 🤷🏽♀️
@@Queenofthatank it should be,but like I stated it varies from state from state,even if is federal law. It all comes down to jurisdiction and rules of that state/county/country.
Story 1: OP needs to divorce her egotistical husband and have full custody over her children ASAP. I’m sorry but I doubt OP’s brother will ever recover or be rehabilitated, he’s just proving time and time again he isn’t willing to fix himself for the better. I’m just pulling a leg here but I 100% suspect that OP’s brother could be relapsing for attention (OP mentioned their parents are unemotionally available) and craves any attention from others, negative or positive. I just cannot with OP’s husband, this loser is more concerning with proving his precious high school fantasy than protecting his children and actually doing something about the ordeal. ATP OP should just let him get his ass handed before leaving for good, what is the point in staying in a marriage when your partner prioritizes their sensitive ego over their loved ones
Odd because what do you think is going to happen to the wife and children when he finds their new address? I've mentioned it so many times in the comments as there's no way to avoid this confrontation only being prepared so the situation is in their favor, which would both entire the safety of the wife and children and get the brother arrested so he no longer becomes a threat to them. Having the will to act is one thing, being a coward and hoping for the best is just as equally delusional since its clear that this is not going to stop even if they do move in which all that money and effort would be wasted on pointlessly moving.
Autism is *not* an excuse for being a psychopath. Brother needs mental help *yesterday.*
"Buying weapons and thinking about killing people is not a crime" - this is true, but making terroristic threats *IS* a crime!
Unfortunately by the book of the law it wouldn't be making terroristic threats, since that would include making threats purely for the purpose of political gain.
I am sorry but as someome with high functioning autism.
The brother is no way high functioning if he thinks threatening this stuff is okay with it,
And hurting a dog sexually no.
I also very much doubt his diagnosis was correct.
Same here, that shit needs to be shut down quickly!
He may have Autism, I don't know. However Autism doesn't do this to someone's behavior. This is something different, this is something bad.
- A Fellow Autistic
Op needs to leave her husband because he's putting ego above the safety of his family.
Why did she have her homicidal bro around her kids in the first place he's an ass but she is too
@@mizal321 how? She literally the only person who has done anything to get the brother help. Brother hasnt been around the kids soon as the homocidal stuff came out and its obvious hes been lying about being better.
@@mizal321Were you even listening?
I guess the dude has an attachment to the house. Which even then, don't put your house above your family
He's likely afraid of the costs of moving (new house will cost more) and the fact that the nutjob may find them again.
Still an idiot.
Take your kids. Leave the husband behind. Children are your first priority always. Leave immediately, NOW!!
The husbands got his head up his butt. At this point Op should just take her kids and leave him since he cares more about his ego than protecting his family.
He's probably afraid that they'll be running for the rest of their lives. Still an idiot.
Story 1: the husband is not understanding what it means to protect his family.... one should not puff up their chest if it will end up traumatizing their kids in the process. Focus on protecting them from that scene.
If they had a legitimate reason that they couldn't move, I'd understand if he kept his mouth shut, got a gun (maybe a large dog or two) and installed that damned alarm. Even then it would require a long and sobering talk.
But being perfectly able to move away and still doing nothing other than fantasising of a lost fight? Dude has his priorities messed up. This guy never heard that in a knife fight the loser dies on the streets and the winner in the ambulance.
PD: people tend to underestimate how powerful large dogs can be. If properly trained, 3 dogs have over a 90% chance of taking down someone with an AR or shotgun in a home invasion scenario. The proportions are true given any amount of attackers that wouldn't need National Guard deployment.
A man should be able to protect his family himself.
@@kennethleo4471 If the cost outweighs the protection, then you only brought harm.
@@kennethleo4471 yes, and making distance is protecting his family in that case. He needs to breath to be a father
Story 1. I remember seeing this whole story in real time. How scary for OP. This is a post I think about once in a while
When OP called her husband a good father and smart, I call bullshit.
It's the wife that's terrible, destroying the family because she's a coward
@@rustyjones7908soy soy soy, theres brave and there's stupidity. Why would you even risk it? He's literally Mike Myers so not worth the gamble.
@@breadogi7118 Autism doesn't deflect bullets
@@rustyjones7908I agree fr it’s just the law is dumb
Story 1: Dude, I get wanting to protect your family and seem like the strong one, but when your BIL is threatening to kill your entire family it is NOT THE TIME!!! GTFO of there and then you can call yourself a brave man!
Story 2: I'm having a hard time not forgiving the mother on the pure thing that she went through the gf stuff in general and then spread her medical history. She has shown no remorse in the entire story. Everyone else has except her
Story 2: bf is a green flag. A flawed human trying to do right by his loved ones and better himself.
Story 1. Sounds like the husband wants to be an action hero get a life insurance for him and if possible the brother then take the kids and gtfo until you can collect on the policy.
Nah, no, no, no…OP in story 1 needs to leave her husband. He’s unsupportive and mentally abusive. He’ll tell her parents and suddenly her brother will be on them again. Let the brother and husband duke it out but OP and her kids need to get away from both.
Ops husband is freaking stupid! He screams 'hurr durr I am so badass i can beat up 20 men without breaking a sweat duuuuh' kind of mood. He thinks putting himself and his family in harm's way is protecting them? He thinks he can beat someone who's much bigger and more insane than he is?
If he wants to indulge his ego, fine! Tell him to go to the brother RIGHT NOW and start something. But OP needs to get her and her children out of harm's way! Threats have been made multiple times! Plans have been set! There's no way anyone should be sitting around twiddling their thumbs waiting for what will happen next!
The dumbest part is that even if he was right about being able to take the brother, there’s still a very high danger to the kids being hurt or traumatized. Like even if his ideal scenario plays out the kids could still wake up to the window smashed and their crazed uncle in their home, that’s something that can traumatize them.
@@RHuipe13 He most likely didn't think all that through, like I've been saying in other comments since some people don't understand some people just want to fight and enjoy it, doesn't have necessarily anything to do with ego, however there's a time and place and its called MMA. Not like that's likely to happen anymore as OP said she and the kids will be leaving the house while the husband stays behind in which case you do get the best of both worlds. The husband can indulge in wanting to fight in a reckless way, the brother will be arrested and has no way out, and the children are safe so its practically the ideal solution since running away isn't going to solve the issue either.
@@reflex9238 I agree he didn’t think it through and I wouldn’t hold it against him if it was an initial reaction and that’s all. It’s the fact he stuck to it and made moving so much more difficult for op which is why I would say he is an idiot and needs to get over himself. It also sounds like he is very wrong, considering she describes the brother as over six foot and her husband as much smaller he’d definitely struggle in a straight up fight. Add on to that he would probably show up with a weapon and the idea “I’d just kick his ass” becomes even more dumb.
Story's 1 husband isn't worth shit, and he needs to learn from the bf in sorty 2 because he's handling everything well and trying his best
Keep crying 😭😭
@@autobotfan11you’re the only one crying though?
Story 2 I'm so angry for OP. It never should have come to this. They're way off in the weeds instead of "why the eff were you going through my medical shit" ever even being asked. AND YOU KNOW that's why the mom won't let this go. As soon as she does she's the bad guy for opening the can.
story 1 he won't try he will unless u and ur kids leave the state
She doesn’t just have a brother problem, she has a husband problem. The men in my family wouldn’t think twice about moving if their families were in danger.
Those aren't intrusive thoughts at that point. Intrusive thoughts are thoughts no one wants, are scared of, are things that aren't controlled but.. the brother enjoys them, is planning them out, and was about to straight up act on them. He is getting pleasure from it. Those aren't intrusive anymore.
Yeah, those are straight up plans, he even started acting on them(getting and modifying weapons). At some point he will learn to stop telling people about those plans and will just straight up implement them. The best case scenario would be him staying in prison for life, it seems like he can’t be saved.
intrusive thoughts is one thing but literally preparing and buying equipment its like whole another level. In my country you can think and even to some degree talk about committing a crime but it gets illegal if you put plan on paper and start doing preparations.
Op 2 and her boyfriend are so wholesome, I truly hope The best for them, because of hiv and aids and the stigma with the LGBT, alot of people think women can only spread the virus or not actually be affected (ive heard this in my state lol) and it's disgusting that someone no matter how they got the std would be treated so badly.
how does dad go from, 'ill buy a gun and stop him if he comes here' to 'op its all your fault'
like dude... you said youd shoot your son. is it compassion? like old yellar?
Why is no one talking about how OP was willing to have a homicidal maniac around her kids until it was them whom he turned that towards her huaband is wrong but his life is being uprooted also but hes a man so its invalidated
From what is sounds his time around her kids was before he ever admitted to the homicidal thoughts and the weapons he had. Because the moment she found out she immediately called the police. Not to mention from the updates it sounds like the husband has his own level of issues honestly think that they need to divorce
This is true. Hubby says that he can stop him. I think hubby is tired of all the threats and fear that BIL is causing. He has known that BIL is serious, not just fantasizing. I believe he came to that conclusion much sooner than OP or any of her family. Now after all the threats,BIL being hospitalized and released in no time, the cops always saying that they can't do anything, he's had it. I believe that hubby knows there's 1 way to actually end all of this BS. He realizes that even moving to another state doesn't guarantee safety. He's willing to end BIL and put all of this crap to an end. OP doesn't see any of this. She sees it as him playing "Big Man".
Right now brother standing trial. There's only so much prison time the judge can give. Unless everyone is lucky and brother never "walks" out of prison or the brother tries to attack the judge. He will find OP. Brother will start all over again.
There are people in this world that should not have been saved at birth. Like the brother. There are people who need to be taken out of this world. For themselves and the rest of us.
I doubt he just talked about killing people before he said that to op lol
Were you even listening?
@@lindah3803Doesn't change the fact that the husband is a jerk and a coward. He's afraid of getting a new job, the mortgage, and that the brother would follow.
Guy is so scared he refuses to think about the 12-18 hours a day he isn't home or the half hour in the bathroom a day.
as someone who has poor mental health, i have once hit rock bottom and had an episode. that one commenter that said nobody can take someone who is having a mental health episode, is entirely correct. in my rage i was able to take down BOTH my own father and one of my older brothers when they are both over 6'3 250lb. i was just a small teenage female. but that day i turned into a beast. never play with mental health.
Story 1 sounds like some bad soap opera. At least it doesn't sound like AI-made.
It sounds like it was written by a person who hates pew-pews.
I really hope OP leaves her husband; it sounds like he was a horrible person even before her brother said he would kill her.
OP needs to leave her husband. He is emotionally abusive.
HE WHAT THE FAMILY DOG!?
I like how the people who commented on story 1 are thinking this happened not that long ago but the OP said this was decades ago where the mindset of everything was different. Like how people back then believed that therapy is for crazy people and serial killers.
Also ops dad is so confusing on one hand he says hed shoot his son on sight,
but is mad op went to the cops what lol
Story 1:
OP brother is close enough to complete his fantasy with axxe and parents... OP dad got gûnns to act on his son but mad at OP coz it's just harmless fantasy 😂
Someone gonna get first blood and its not OP and her family.
Having thoughts about kiliing people is not a crime. Actively planning to kill a person , and implementing the plan is. Terroristic threats are a crime.
I thought planning out a homicide was illegal? Why is this guy not in prison?
Psychotic brother story- GET THE BROTHER A SECOND OPINION. He can also be charged with terroristic threats
1st story needs to leave her husband immediately. He’s the type of dude with a Napoleon complex that is gonna get his family killed for his own pride.
Story 2: At least the bf is trying to stand up for her
this is what happened when the mental hospitals closed down. mostly to goody two-shoe bleeding hearts. and this is the time you leave hubby behind.
yeah blame the injury. he is just plain evil. and I have beach property in arizona.
making death threats is a very real crime.
People need to stop making excuses like they are just unwell or they can fix them. If a person needs professional help then they need professional help. I had a family friend have a phycotic episode and started thinking people were after them and people poisoned them, and i was the one looking after them and because i had to make sure they take meds and food they started to think i was doing something and would start locking me out then start following me everywhere even to the toilet, going through my stuff and even started stealing stuff from my purse like id money even toiletries and cloths. They started threatening me that they knew what i was doing (they acused me of horrible things) and they were going to get "rid" of me and i told thier family and got them excusses as they didnt want to section them. They attacked me a few times each times same excuse it wasnt till they needed hospitalised for thier physical health as they refused to take med for pre exisiting health conditions that they got sectioned. And there is where they got help they needed and the family realised that they couldnt handle it
Why people telling her to move because people don’t know that’s kind pricey and can cause your kids have resentment towards you when I can solve the problem with under 900$ dollars 🙏🏽
for the first story, him being autistic as a "reasoning" pisses me off
The HIV positive op , the mother is a nurse. Report her to medical ethics board for spreading you status.
Story 1: i don't think husband is as bad as people think.
Look at this from a different perspective. Wife up and decides her family is moving without talking to the husband first and decides they need to move so far away that they need brand new jobs.
She doesnt know anything about buying a home or even how a mortgage works and expects husband to just "do it."
Husbsnd gets fed up and gets admittedly nessecarily snarky with her but she casually drops that she's been making him read books to teach him to do things how she wants them done.
Wife has a legitimate concern but it looks like it may be a "cry wolf" situation. She is regularly controlling and neurotic and the husband is getting fed up with it. "You have to find us a new house and find yourself a new job" was just the final straw.
I also do wanna mention that let's pretend that moving isn't the biggest challenge in the world and everything was done well without a hitch. Okay what happens when the brother finds their new address, because one can't keep moving an infinite amount of times as they'd easily be left on the street after a while. Husband strikes me as the guy who wanted to fight for the sake of it, and forgot about the safety of his children something which I believe the wife should definitely have communicated with him on that. Either way I don't see what's the problem with just leaving the house temporarily with the kids while the husband stays to deal with the situation, as it beats having to sell the house and having to move which even then doesn't guarantee that he won't should during the process as this all takes time or find their new address. It would guarantee the safety of their children and if they're paranoid he'll find them then someone else can stay with the wife and the children while the husband stays at the house, because in both cases if the brother does something well he's landing himself in cuffs by law enforcement and get a lengthy sentence which would give them all the piece of mind they want.
I feel like she's leaving things out about her husband she never mentions their financial position or if the violence is the only reason
And America refuses to take gun control seriously. Congratulations you're helping to keep easy access for these people. Well done.
I missed the part where that's my problem. In all seriousness really looks like you missed the fact that law enforcement got involved and made it so he's no longer allowed to purchase guns given his mental history.
@@reflex9238 yeah getting law enforcement involved everytime must be a good use of their time and recourses. I suppose having a system in place to make it harder for them purchase a gun before law enforcement got involved would be too easy I guess and boy, do you guys like to make things difficult (I'm assuming American because you responded with such ferver) for instantance why do you need to file your taxes even tho the IRS know, they won't tell you for some reason and you will face jail time even if you're a cent off. Real simple like.
Also why do I get the feeling you enjoy chowing down on huge bowls of fecal matter?
@@bazzascott8935 Its hilarious how you think that system isn't already in place, but alright genius what specific plans do you have in mind that could've prevented the brother from even acquiring a firearm before his declining mental health?
@@reflex9238 I missed the part where that's my problem. I think you missed the fact it's not my job to fix America's poor gun control law's.
Go finish your bowl of 💩
@@reflex9238 I missed the part where that's my problem.
"We are not gun people" I mean... okay but good luck waiting for the police when the psycho shows up. I'm sure nothing will happen to you for the 15+ minutes it takes them to arrive
excused me, what about a dog?
“We’re not gun people”
Obviously none of you should be….. ever….
Story 1 - That was horrifying. Like something from a psychological horror movie script. If he doesn't kill op or someone in the family he's going to end up killing somebody or a lot of people. He's building up the nerve to actually do it. Op's husband is an idiot. He's the guy that gets killed first in every horror movie. Op should proceed with divorce regardless of what happens.
Story 2 - That's just tragic. I feel so sad for op. Boggles my mind knowing that these kinds of bullies go into nursing. I don't blame op for being nervous but it's a good sign if he's defended op.
I wonder if there is any stimuli that trigger his flight or freeze response, or if the psychiatric ward is legally allowed to induse one. I dont know how common this knowledge is so please excuse if this sounds pompous; OP did the right thing in doing their best to conceal how much their brother's words affected them from him. Also, is the brother in ABA? I understand that the brother can squirm his way out of stuff, and ABA can be hit or miss especially so for those who dont want to change.
Ok, anyone else thinking the husband wants op's brother to kill op and the kids?? Like just the "he's tired of taking care of the kids" is ringing alarm bells in my head.
No, you're just insane more than the husband and brother combined which is saying something.
@@reflex9238 nah, I just have a very active imagination
@@TheLalacream they call it insane for a reason.
"We Need to Talk about Kevin" (Film)
Dang half way through y she havent dropped the husband or mother is something else makes you wonder bought the father on the mother
The husband in the first story I somewhat understand but I can't condone his actions as there's a time in place for that. For everyone saying that its all about ego its not, some guys just actually want to fight and enjoy doing so they're like real life Saiyans, however like I said there's a time and place for that and its called taking up any martial art to get it out of one's system in a non harmful and of course non idiotic way. If OP's description of him being a great husband is true then surely if she talked to him about how he's choosing his own selfish desires to want to fight someone, over the safety of his children by letting them stay there it would surely snap him out of it and bring him back into reality as this looks like something he didn't fully think about as the only thing on his mind is enjoying a fight.
For dealing with the brother since he's been in and out of the psych ward if he does commit a crime then he's getting sentenced without any second chances or he'd be committed to the worse kind of psych ward with no way out as he'd get the real life insanity plead which for anyone that doesn't know is far worse than a jail or prison sentence. Given that the husband seems gunho about staying at the house to deal with him, I'd say OP should just let him if he does try to get OP and the children to stay then I'd consider the husband AH. Unfortunately given the restrictions of the law the brother would need to actually do something to show he'd be a danger to others, so if the husband does stay for the situation go down then the brother is done as now there'd be evidence of the brother being a danger, because unfortunately running away isn't going to put him behind bars and it'd cause more stress in the long term since she'd be in constant fear. Basically if OP really wants this all done and not to be living in constant fear someone has to be the fall guy and in this case the husband inadvertently has decided to be the fall guy due to his want to fight, so looks like the situation would solve itself.
I'm sorry, is the dad planning on shooting the brother on sight, or does he think OP is ruining her brother's life??
I feel for the woman in the first story, but honestly, the way she's wording it makes it sound like she's blaming the Autism for her brother's actions.Just because someone has low/no empathy doesn't make them want to kill people, there's clearly something else going on behind the scenes, but the fact she keeps bringing up the Autism seriously makes it seem like she's demonizing it because her brother happens to have it.
10:33 Psycho brother and husband... OP listen to yourself... at this point, take the kids and find a new place and don't tell your brother OR husband... if this danger to your KIDS isn't registering for you husband, that means his entire family is at risk... and warn the schopls and your kids thay if they see uncle to run like hell and hide
Story 1...this some Hollyween shit!!! Yall need to call Jamie Lee Curtis!!
I will say this that the whole situation with the 1st story is bullshit. Most likely, the police and FBI were getting flack and shit from the mother, which is why they couldn't do anything. Because yes, it is a crime to buy weapons with the intent to kill. His very confessions, as well as the fact that he lied his way out of the mental hospital and tried to do it once before, and even the doctors stated that the medication wasn't working. At this point, he would be viewed as a threat and put in a cell or permanent mental institution housing as he is a risk to others. He clearly shows Sociopathic and Psycopathic tendencies. There is no way the doctors and police would behave this way without someone trying to cause problems.
Perhaps the non gun people are starting to understand their appeal, like no shit a restraining order isn't going to protect you from your ax murderering brother, it's a peice of paper!
Know what's not paper and will stop him? Lead!
This!
Gotta be fake story
Story 2 ATZ and other treatments such as prophylactic meds are loosing their effectiveness as the virus evolves so yeah I would worry if I was that guys mom. It was called the gay disease back when my aunt got it and we watched so many die and be treated as untouchable by medical professionals. The fear is not unfounded. It’s unlikely her son will get it but the possibility is still very much there and if he can’t take the meds for whatever medical reasons… it is not going to go well for him. BF’s Mom is definitely old enough to remember the days I remember and has every right to fear for her son.
Based husband in story 1
I think something like “ I don’t want my husband and brother to kill each other. “ would have worked better. Telling a man that he can’t protect his family in his home isn’t ever going to be productive, regardless of the truth of the statement. If OP wanted kindness from her husband she should have lead with it. OP’s example of kindness was just him agreeing with her, not disagreeing kindly. Overall a garbage situation and I hope everyone is safe, except the brother, obviously.
I'd pissed that no one not even in the comments has the few braincells to you know actually get the guy in prison so they can all rest peacefully. The wife leaving with the kids and staying at a family member's house for safety while the husband deals with the situation so even if he doesn't win that fight he'd have evidence of an attempted breaking and entering, possession of a deadly weapon, and attempted murder. I don't understand how no one has even thought of this, the wife and kids get protected, while the husband works on sending the guy to jail which everything works out great.
Story 1 the husband is an idiot for not wanting to leave. But the wife is just insane. She's scared of someone who literally in a mental hospital that refuses to let them out. She's one of those "scared of guns" types and sounds like a Karen.
A lot of cowards in these comments. I dont know of anyone whos worked hard to build a home and life so ready to abandon it.
There is a difference between being a coward, an egotistical Moron and being smart, feel free to play with your own life but never tell anyone else what they can do with theirs. Safety over ego all the time, every time.
@@kinosaga21 point stands
@@banespeace9079yah risk your entire family life Bec of your ego
@@kinosaga21 Okay genius tell what they're gonna do next when he finds their new address, keep running and spending money? The situation is going to come down to having a physical confrontation NO MATTER WHAT. Delaying it till the last possible second in a coward's way out, because here's something that they can actually do and that is prepare for it in order to make the situation favor them when it comes down to it. The wife and kids can all go stay at a trusted family member, while the husband stays back to deal with it and regardless of the outcome of what happens to the husband in that situation the brother is getting in cuffs if he seriously tries anything. Given that the biggest thing that the wife wants is you know peace of mind, having him sent to jail or prison is the best option, which is not possible when you're a coward and choose to keep running away.
The boy's parents are in denial.
What do they mean making threzt? Aren't a crime?!
In certain states and countries,making verbal threats isn't considered a crime per see.
Tbh it should be since it's premeditation.
Your first mistake is thinking the police will ever help you prior to your family being destroyed
@@MacerXGP IDK about that I've been the destructive mentally ill person about to unalived my family n the police took that ish seriously and locked me up 🤷🏽♀️
@@Deimos001 in the USA it's a federal crime and needs to be taken seriously in general
@@Queenofthatank it should be,but like I stated it varies from state from state,even if is federal law.
It all comes down to jurisdiction and rules of that state/county/country.
Story 1: OP needs to divorce her egotistical husband and have full custody over her children ASAP. I’m sorry but I doubt OP’s brother will ever recover or be rehabilitated, he’s just proving time and time again he isn’t willing to fix himself for the better. I’m just pulling a leg here but I 100% suspect that OP’s brother could be relapsing for attention (OP mentioned their parents are unemotionally available) and craves any attention from others, negative or positive. I just cannot with OP’s husband, this loser is more concerning with proving his precious high school fantasy than protecting his children and actually doing something about the ordeal. ATP OP should just let him get his ass handed before leaving for good, what is the point in staying in a marriage when your partner prioritizes their sensitive ego over their loved ones
Odd because what do you think is going to happen to the wife and children when he finds their new address? I've mentioned it so many times in the comments as there's no way to avoid this confrontation only being prepared so the situation is in their favor, which would both entire the safety of the wife and children and get the brother arrested so he no longer becomes a threat to them. Having the will to act is one thing, being a coward and hoping for the best is just as equally delusional since its clear that this is not going to stop even if they do move in which all that money and effort would be wasted on pointlessly moving.