BMW M 1000 RR | IS IT WORTH IT?!
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- First ride and review of the eagerly anticipated BMW M 1000 RR at a changeable and chilly Donington Park Press Test.
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Nah, this is a brutally honest and ultimately accurate review of the bike and who it is aimed at. As Chris rightly points out, it's designed for race teams who will junk so much of bike in favour of Race spec kit. Clearly it's a fantastic bike, but so is a standard S1000rr.
So, what I heard
Buy an s1000rr and hawk eBay for parts from race teams that swapped for race bits?
Brilliant!
Spot on Renny.
@@Heavywall70 Why bother?
If you are good enough you can use an S1000RR Superstock (no engine mods, treaded tyres) and put in a 134mph average lap at the Isle of Man TT. Indeed Peter Hickman raced his Superstock in the Superbike category on slicks and still won with a 135mph average lap.
Yeah true, it's a race bike, it's not made for the street. A normal S1000RR will do, if you're never gonna take it to the track anyway.
@@Reichsritter Like a S1000rr is a "street bike" lol
Anyone else appreciated just how damn clear that wind screen is; how the water beads up it in the air stream so cleanly - plus that silky smooth steady cam guffery. Phwooar!!!
That is what you call airflow at speed.
Is probably because is new and polished by chemical.
RainX
Totally honest review! Thanks for being invited to such a cool day and not just noshing BMW.
1:51 Not gonna lie, I think the episode should have started out with this 😂
That would have been immaculate
Undoubtably one of the best looking bikes on the market right now
agree...those winglet are beautifully designed and placed, unlike on the Panigale V4
Just look at those brake calipers... Screams 'ricer' to me🥴🤮
@@noudgoertz hahaha...have to agree with you on that one, but its not that bad for me. replace it with a brembo stylema unit and problem solved!
You've got to be joking! It's an incredible bike but it looks shite
@@justa1098 agreed
Baron is slowly changing from general glove faffer to actual motor journalist with real advice..... props
There a great mix of lads I could see this being like top gear one day
Comedy on some of the vids are great really got me through these last few months/years
Huge respect for the blokes at 44teeth. After watching I was reminded of this quote I read somewhere,“Sincerity and truth are the basis of every virtue.”!
Keep up the good work you guys.
Really appreciate it.
This guy was great in schitt's creek and he’s pretty clever on a bike, goes to show you never can tell 😆
AHAHAHAHAAHA aaaahhhjjj good one.
I was at Donington on the same day and Chris seemed more interested in an old school Kawasaki that was there...
until i had to bump start it down the pitlane 🤣
@@FortyFourTeeth ui
Great review! Would really like to see a follow up to this with you riding one after a race team has been through it.
YES! Please BMW read this ❤👍
Agreed! I would like someone like Dave Moss (or equivalent) to set the stock suspension up for the person that's testing the Bike to see how it handles when it's appropriately setup for the rider and his weight. I'm 212lbs and I've jumped on my buddies bike that's setup for him at 155lbs and even though both are 2020 BMWS1000RRM it was mind blowing how different our setups were to each other. Even with our DDC we had to get our bikes suspension baseline set for our individual weight and riding style. I'm looking forward to seeing how different the new geometry on the Gillies tripple clamp and the new longer swingarm (silver one) feels compared to my 2020 S1000RR M.
Yep, watching the clips onboard and external, requires more than 2clicks out.
@@MRR-qv3bw 🤣 exactly what I was going to say. It amazes me how many reviews are done by journos who then say they haven't touched the suspension! Its adjustablefor a reason. It's also not rocket science no bike will handle the same for a rider unless they are very similar build and weight. They will tide it different anyways. Spend half an hour watching Dave Moss and get a mate with a tape measure. You will be amazed how good your bike is. That's if your weight is within the fitted springs rate!
Nice , thanks Chris . Whatever you are doing these days , you seem much more focused and engaging.I see you replied to many comments. We appreciate all you both do and I get a bit of a chubby when I see a notification of a new video .( no matter the subject and that screams volumes)
Be safe .
Chris, your racing skill has grown leaps and bounds, it’s awesome to see, good for you man. It’s been fun to watch your progression.
Lmao, Kevin knows what’s up!
What did he say?
I don’t get it 🤷♂️
Kevin is m my idol
@@hansiwurst7492 was it something to do with the electronic noise just before he said “Kevin!” ?
@@tfunkhou88 it‘s not the electronics more like a „specific“ video on his phone...
13:45 So one of them had an oil leak...? This is the BMW reliability that we have all become accustomed to. No surprises there.
You are spot on in your analysis of this bike. I bought an S1000RR in 2013 then turn around and purchased the 2014 HP4 competition as a collectors bike. I have jus over 10,000 miles on it and I have been waiting for the M 1000 RR competition just so that I can delivery of it as a collectors Motorrad bike as well.
Nice one , Chris !
This was a proper honest review , no bias here 👍
Big Chris... hitting nails on heads like a proper journo SHOULD! Bravo dude 👌👏👏👏
It really has been great following Baron’s journey and I’m really happy for him but I still get a little nostalgic for him riding around London calling everyone a c*nt.
@@adamn5803 you know sometimes I forget how I got here? It all started with the greenlane
This title is like asking if oxygen is worth breathing.
Ikr
You’re saying the m1000rr is worth it?
Lold
I know NOTHING about motorcycle, a lot about road bicycles with pedals, but nothing about motorcycles.
This motorcycle though... What a piece of art.
His point is correct.
Not worth the homologation model that does not run the race track in only collector support buying.
I order the M1000RR for racing, but I don't know the worth.
Chris I love this channel, it’s my go to… watched this and still traded my S for the M.. Having ridden them back to back on street and track. I can give you my opinion also. The S is an incredible bike, smooth, controlled and rapid. Both bikes in stock trim feel very similar, the M turns in a bit better. However, once you get them flashed and a full pipe, they are different. The M is more edgy, and gets power the power to the ground in a different way. I’m not saying it’s better but just different. It’s a shame you had not great weather and no slicks and the suspension was at the stock settings (I think), not the way to ride that bike. So yes, you need to do things to the M, but you also need to do things to the S. I commute on mine and track it, I love it. I’ve owned a lot of 1k bikes, and I’m really enjoying this one. And YES it does look good. Both amazing bikes. If you’re looking to save some money and still want an incredible bike the S is just awesome. If you want to feel something with a bit more life get the M (if you can afford it, it’s expensive but then again YOLO haha).
But is it uncrashable?
That thing is damn quick damn how it goes from slow mph to over 120mph is astounding
I saw you in the background of a Bennett’s review video a few days ago, nice bit of sneaky marketing.
we are everywhere.
@@FortyFourTeeth like chlamydia... 🤣
Totally agree with Chris. A lightly modded S1000RR would be my choice over an M.
100% spot on about the Nissin calipers by the way 👍
The honest review is refreshing, as opposed to the gushing praise from others. Great video 🙏🏽
£20K less than a HP4 RACE and its road legal ?! there's evolution !
I am more of a fan of the two different size headlights. Add your own LED headlights of course....
When you show up to one powersports OEM's product intro wearing gear from another powersports OEM
TC is spot on. Wheels inline but still laying down black lines. Maximum attack.
I'm sure you have summed the bike up perfectly.In the hands of the right race team it could be a winner.Thks.
Glad you said that - I'm gonna stick a fiver on Hickman for the BSB title!
@@Norton1531 It would be great.Lets hope so.
I'm just taking an interest in biking after a 20 year hiatus. I used to own a Yamaha FZ750 back in the day. I never knew that BMW made such tasty machines. This bike reminds me of the Yamaha R1.
Horsepower wise and weight wise yes, but engine characteristics and looks hell no!
can't get over how beautiful that bike is. The design is so fucking crisp, I know its completely impractical for daily street use but man oh man it sure is a beauty.
I found it difficult to hear speech over the background noise. Any chance of getting a microphone closer to the mouth, Like a lav or hand held?
I could care less about what anyone thinks, if I had the money, I'd buy it for all of the reasons it's advertised for. The looks alone makes it worth the money.
I feel like BMW should’ve just kept the HP4 moniker for this bike since it is track focused and geared towards moto racing teams where there really is no need for brand recognition and prestige. Moto enthusiasts are very familiar with the HP nameplate and if targeting that group of people, well then. Applying the M badging to a motorcycle seems like a natural desire for BMW to want to do, but like their M cars, which are largely just bought by road cocks (an M branded condom is a bit on the nose isn’t it 😉), I could see an “M” bike as something that offers crazy HP over the standard, but also bunches of eye candy thrown in. This bike has been given everything actually desired by race teams, but branded as if the target audience is more concerned about brand recognition and prestige and 0-60 times over anything else IMO so there’s a bit of a disconnect as I see it.
i think you make a good assessment - i feel its a bit of a confused bike in this form, either go RACE package for teams or blingly package for normals.
New cameras? ultra high quality lads, congrats!
Love the honesty Chris...good review fella!
Chris, interesting that you didn't like the Dunlop SportSmart TT tires. I wonder what pressure they were running?
Being an NTEC tire they should be set for track use on significantly lower pressure than for road use to give much more grip. Coppice Melbourne loop, and Goddard's all the better for that.
I'm sure that Mark would have sorted that if you asked. He's a friendly bloke.
I guess BMW were happy with Michael Dunlop's TT outings, before pandemic...
Can't believe 44 teeth still at 260+ sub , come on guys they should crack up to a million+ ,the best bike review .
It’s a beauty, but g*damn I’d hate to throw this down the road and see what the repair bills are 😳
The pain schemes suck, but it’s a real weapon!
How badass was this review, production and presentation! - Fantastic Chris 👍🏻
Had an R1 in my 20s... At 43, I don't think my brain could keep up with this thing!
Your mind is like every other part of you. If you keep it sharp it will cut for a long time yet!
Most sensible honest review possible..... Chris at his critical best.
Fantastic, in depth and honest review. Keep well.
Love the fact you have BARON stamped across the back of your suit.
It certainly looks like BMW have finally pulled the pin & gone all-out for a race homologation special. And why not? I'm fully expecting this upgrade to be at the sharp-end for at least a good cuppla-3 years (or until the competition up their game again). And lest I forget: that was a really good & informed review there, Sue. I'll whisper it - but I can see you overhauling your long-time-partner-in-crime (Statham) soon on track. And on that bombshell...
Gotta admit, to me the S1000rr range has always been this. A racers bike. But I've never been massively sold on it. There's something about it that's feels quite "clinical". The things built to do a job and that's go fast and handle like a dream and at that it's good probably up there with the best there's no denying. But if I was to compare this and a fireblade next to each other to me there's something about the Blade as an example that has a lot more character to it. Maybe just my opinion. Or the older ZX10r "The widowmaker" (Can't remember which exact year the WM was) which much as it may not have the same figures, was an absolute monster with a reputation. It was almost "Feared". Still BMW is a beast with performance, handling and an exhaust note unlike any other. It's a damn good bike. Just like I said feels a bit built to simply do one job. I'd like the idea if I had the money (Ha) of having one for track use only where I could see some of its potential. But if I was to right now be given a choice of bike for day to day I'd go 04 Blade or newer Gsxr.
Thank you ,the sales-price difference makes this decision easy
Fantastic review! I have a '16 s1000rr so I am a self admitted BMW fanboy but I think you hit the nail on the head Chris! A race teams' build buttery bisquit base rather than an ultimate street variant of the venerable RR.
Great review, Chris. Covid maybe, but this is much closer to real world for us Brits than a totally contrived press launch in Spain or Portugal, as great as they may be.
I hope your racing on the super twin goes/went well at Oulton Park! No more mechanical issues!💪🏻👍🏻🙏
oh it did........ 😍
Bloody love that sound of superbikes in the background gunning it. Makes me want to grab my gear and get mine out now haha. Got stuff to do tho..
Realistically the standard S1000rr will sell most in the uk the lower spec will sell a few and the comp spec rich older people that have low insurance and can turn up to loomies and feel proud so the tyres and everything else don’t really mean a lot. It’s a platform rather than a finished bike
Properly real life review. Best yet. Thank you
My S1000RR blew off it’s side stand in the wind, and from just toppling over like that the magnesium head stock cracked and needed to be replaced at great expense because (a) the parts themselves were expensive and (b) so many parts needed to be removed which cost a huge amount for labour. Brilliant bike, amazing engine...but damage like that is piss poor.
Very honest review. Unlike how yammienoob does his bike reviews, biased and rigged.
Good to see back Chris !
damn, 120mph 2nd gear ⚙ wow 👏
Well glad to hear the blunt honesty. I do wonder with the current Blade SP, ZX10RR and this ... maybe a more accurate test for the homologising specials is a not so budget bike battle road trip???
Dam I wish I had access to a track like that! I need to gtfo out of ohio!
lmao
come to the uk man
I should add England don't go to Scotland, full of smackheads.
Yolo
@@yeahdog usa is large
love the honesty of this review. bike manufacture's should start selling stripped down versions of race bikes if they have to meet homologation rules, not the other way around. charging this much money for parts you "should" be replacing is nonsense.
Thought it would be brembo & Ohlins proper. THANK YOU!
Good review, shame BMW dont do what Aprillia does and give you a race ready bike (minus fairings) off the showroom floor.
First off, fantastic production guys, this was a beautifully done video. So for a bike that is 33K-37K, depending on the package, teams will just replace nearly everything on it, whereas a normal person should get "just" a normal s1000rr? I do think it is cool looking though and man does that motor spin up fast!
That was one of the best reviews I've ever seen. You nailed it. Thank you very much!
Well hasn’t Chris turned into a proper handy rider.....
With so many f**ktard youtubers out there, it's refreshing that Chris and the boys know their stuff, have humour and can actually present.
Sportsmart TT is a nice tire, but not the choice for that thing. I run it on my 848, does well on that.
You were leaning on that DTC to the max in those earlier sessions ... nice bit of video that.
i rode both a whole season. The m1000rr is better than the s, but for the money you could build an even better S
Is it not intended for people who drive Lamborghini etc.? IE. People who need to have the flashiest and most expensive vehicle, no matter how unpractical it may be.
Not a fan. I'll spend the extra euros on Factory Edition Aprilia RSV4 1100 with the full Ohlins or Ducati Panigale V4 SP. Both have winning pedigree on the WSBK stage while BMW has won .......
Fastest ever lap around the TT, multiple National championships in Europe and USA, 1000's of superstock races etc - But i hear your point, its not one a WSBK race yet..
Thanks for the honest and considered review and conclusions.
As usual... Great visuals and great analysis and feedback. Thanks for the RReview 44Teeth! ✌🤘🤘
Donington Park, My fave track from when MOTOGP use to frequesnt it. Love the bike
Actually, at which points does the balance goes to the M1000rr?
Now we have bikes with 8k km and the price difference between an S and an M is much smaller.
What do you think ?
it is not a question of buying the bike, rather being able to afford the absurd insurance - last year I had an NC700X DCT stolen because police were afraid of being police during covid and if any car or motorcycle was not bolted down, thefts were up a whopping 600%
Feeling much happier about my 2020 RR purchase now. Looks like I'm not missing out on much and its a lot more $$$ for the M. You need to do the reflash for fueling and a full Akra either way since this has to meet all emissions and noise requirements. Much better off buying the RR and doing the tune and system.
Great honest review with good detail. Thanks for that.
A job to believe it came with those tyres on a press day. What was BMW thinking of.
Modern superbikes make one feel like a hero! They're SO much fun to ride... I would love to ride the new RR!
Also, I disagree, I like the Letter/displacement model codes... Keep your names, you car lover guy you!
I think manufacturers leave protectors off as if you then drop your bike how many replacement parts would you need ?..... A lot less !
Round 1 at Oulton Park had the SSTK1000 Lap Record set on a NON 'M' Spec bike 2 weeks ago..! Even the teams have said there is no benefit to the Aero package and half the riders can't tell any difference. If you smash one up then getting parts is impossible, so is it worth it, that's still a big NO.
Great review Chris!! Great to hear your honesty when you are such a fan boy of the brand!!
Looks good for track days. BMW still has to prove itself at race days.
As road bikes both the R7 and RC30 weren’t that great or powerful but excelled on the track, I think this is the same here
I can’t help but think the suspension felt soft and a bit pap because the stock setting are most likely meant for someone around 170 kilos. As we all know, despite his best efforts, that isn’t Chris.
170 kilos is 26 Stone 😂
Gotta love my maths and my fat fingers!!!
Chris so Happy&Relaxed these days😁Honestly a joy to watch this review.Keep 'em coming team 44.
Fantastic review Chris, always enjoy watching your views. You did a review a while ago about a HP4 which was not road legal. Why don't race teams simply put the guts of that into a S1000RR? Looking forward to more superbike reviews.
Great intro compilation! More from "Le Baron" please!
Great bike (i own a 2020 S1000RR hockenheim grey and most of the modern superbikes) but the cheezy paint/sticker job gotta go
Damn the quality is so good it looks like an animation
“Welcome to Grandma’s House”🤣 - mine may have only had a Honda Cub, bless her, but I’m sure she’d still put on a better selection of German home made Streusel and Mohnkuchen than those plastic Mr. Kiplings...🤷🏻♂️ Great honest video - now to test the RSV Factory😃👍🏻
In Canada the S1000rr is a $22,000 bike. The M1000rr is just over $50,000... I REALLY can't find the $28,000 extra in the M...
Damn, so Akra even built the cats and that hideous thing before the silencer ? Never seen that before but the stamp is there and the finish is so much better than oem units made by the bike manufacturer.
M1000rr vs HP4 race, who win?
Very honest review, especially given your BM links. I suppose it wont harm sales in any way as like you say, most will be bought by racers and nothing you said will put them off in any way.
With all the might and resources BMW have at hand they've never won a major title to my knowledge. No BSB or WSBK.
Be interesting to see if this latest weapon will change that.
Thanks for the video. I hope you get to ride one in more favourable conditions.
I'm new to 44teeth . Bloody good stuff. Looking forward to more super twin action.
Cheers 🍺
So refreshing that the review is honest!
Looks to me like the geometry of the front end can't keep up with the power of the engine when the taps are turned on.
Beautiful bike though.