@@wingstop5541 let me put it this way Middleton is the rice Giannis is the chicken Brook Lopez is The tomato sauce Jrue Holiday is basically the Beans or Gandulez if you wanna go boricua with me (stay with me I'm hungry af as of this writing) and Mike Budenholzer is basically the tostones
I'd be ok with AD getting the DPOY, but in my estimation it's time to appreciate everything Giannis does on the court and give him both of the major awards.
@@realitygutter9694 That line hit me hard i can say. That much I came here again to reply. I thought what you said and actually all the meaningful things actually are free. E.g. Love, (sex), a smile, a good joke, becoming a parent, a good company, etc. All these are free and are the most meaningful in my opinion.
yeah, he does have a snarling menace and aggressiveness to just dominate you defensively every single game that a lot of the other great defenders don't have on a nightly basis
Just bought your book and honestly, I'm getting so much to learn about misconceptions and biases in basketball analysis. Your takes are always spot on and fact-backed.
Man these videos are too good, the fact that you don’t add another 20-40 second to the video to get adds is just a testament to the quality of your content.
I saw from the NBA report that in 2019 there wasn't a single correct defensive 3 seconds call in the last 2 minutes of games, I think it's time to get rid of it and give the defenders an edge for once
No matter how the game changes, the bread and butter of dunks and lay-ups are the heart of basketball. Bucks' defense knows that. Plus, the efficient shooting crew and kick outs from Giannis essentially nullifies any extra threes they might give up. I for one, am interested to see how this works in a playoffs. Will hot shooting teams catch fire, or will the inability to get a secure rim attempt throw teams off???
i know they've refined the system since then but last playoffs we got an idea of what might happen against an elite team with the personnel to 1) build a wall to defend Giannis 2) make a ton of those threes offered up by the system + possibly 3*) make the midrange shots left open from drop coverage very few teams have the personnel to do both (maybe only the Clippers and Raptors though the Raptors may not have enough star power this time, possibly the Celtics, a full-strength Warriors) unless they either have a crazy shooting night like the Sixers on Christmas day, or are so dominant in the paint they can negate the Bucks advantage at the rim and not need a ton of threes, which the Lakers did in their regular season game and the Sixers *could* if they're playing at their best
That's why it would be way too dangerous if the two of them joined together, Steph and Giannis would be worse than Steph and KD because of the incredible synergy their games would have together
@@bryanmejia3498 that would mean AD would have to go to Dallas to split the next 10 titles. Yes. Luka kristaps and Anthony would be needed. Also AD would have to burn so much energy on D that his O would suffer
Bucks have 5 guys in the top 10 in defensive efficiency. Bledsoe is a all nba defender, giannis is a all nba defender, brook is the best rim protector, Middleton is a good wing defender and so is wesley matthews. Then add in robin lopez, donte divencenzo, George hill, erson ilyasova, ect. Brook, giannis, robin are the top 3 rim protectors in the league this year and the bucks are rated the best defense since the 04 pistons. People who disagree that there the best defense are delusional.
These fantastic videos serve to look at the great work that coaches and their assistants do to continually adjust their defensive systems, which go unnoticed by most. Details that are hard to see during the games.
Big Milwaukee fan, so I’m biased, but Giannis’ defensive effort is just so infectious. Bledsoe, Wes, and Donte are all fantastic man wing defenders, pat and Khris put in a ton of effort, even if they aren’t as talented on D, and they have a lot of freedom to chase above screens because Giannis and the bros Lopez are going to clean up any sloppiness.
Great perspective as always. But to key in one point of the video, the scheme takes advantage of certain players strengths while covering up their weaknesses. And that has always been the over arching concept the history of great NBA defenses. Giannis' playing stellar help defense lets Brook/Robin do their drop back role and protect the rim. If the person driving tries to slip around Giannis is around and most likely will find a way to help out. To a point where he is present in multiple sequences even to the point where he's also challenging the shot at the rim.This also impacts the Bucks perimeter on-ball defenders like Bledsoe and DiVicenzo. Bledsoe whose really good at snaking around screens so he can bulldog his target and plays into the overall defensive scheme. So all the players are on-point with their roles which allows them to get the most out defending every given situation outside of certain teams and what matchups they can bring.
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Knowing the Bucks scheme especially when laid out as beautifully as it is in this video is why I hate when people talk about the Raptors last season making a ton of threes like it was a fluke. The Bucks defense is built on protecting the rim at the expense of conceding a ton of (more open) threes and strategically leaving options open like he says here, Toronto took advantage of it by having 5 good shooters on the floor at all times (especially Powell, VanVleet and Ibaka off the bench) and making a ton of the shots they were open for, especially after two teams in the Magic and Sixers who used their length to bother the likes of VanVleet at the perimeter a lot more. It wasn't some random coincidence even if Hardwood Paroxysm and Bucks Twitter insist it was a fluke. They refined it this season but the philosophy and its potential soft underbelly remains Toronto only lost Game 1 after Robin Lopez became Tall Klay Thompson for a night and once they figured out the adjustment to defend Giannis they won 4 straight games because it was paired with ruthlessly attacking the Bucks' scheme of allowing a ton of threes. That's the flaw with their system, it works perfectly against almost everyone unless they're making their threes. When they got blown out by Philly late last December it was because the Sixers uncharacteristically made 50% of their threes and Milwaukee allows a ton of those. If they play a team that shoots 3s at a high enough eFG% comparable to the points they're preventing at the rim they're susceptible
@@TheRealNog the bucks system leaves them open to an elite catch-and-shoot player catching fire, which is the kind of thing that happens in playoff series. it wasn't unforeseeable because we know role players having insane stretches is a common-ish playoff occurence and they made no adjustments when it started happening especially because they have a "pick our poisons and leave some players more open than others" defensive philosophy since they focus on the rim at the expense of the perimeter, which only works if there's at least one poor shooter in the rotation, which the raptors didn't. that meant the guy they picked to leave more open was the coldest shooter coming into the series and the shortest player who they thought they'd be able to close out even from a distance due to their length, which was vanvleet. they basically offered up those opportunities to vanvleet on purpose and he took advantage. that choice was a major factor yeah fvv made a lot more than what would be expected which contributed to how comfortably the Raptors won the four games in a row and part of it was that he was on fire after his son was born, but a big part of it was also that he's a knockdown shooter who was finally getting a ton of more open looks after living a nightmare in the Sixers series
a z no because FVV shot 10% against philly and 57% against the bucks that’s why people say it’s because he had a baby in his career he was never over 40% but suddenly he makes 57%
@@ahmedibrahim7672 and did the bucks defensive scheme make no difference as to why? the sixers closed out on him and used size to bully him because they're a team of giants with a bullyball defensive scheme and it contributed to him shooting far worse than usual. the bucks conceded a ton of open 3s and particularly allowed vanvleet to take a ton of open 3s. 57% may be unsustainable but you'd expect a good catch-and-shoot player given that much space to take that many 3s to shoot above 40%. he's at 39% this year on a lot of attempts many off the dribble and he's always been good from 3
You are right and wrong at the same time. 1.The raps use the same paint first perimeter second defense although the coverage mechanics are different hence why they are top 2 defenses. 2. The only standout difference is that the bucks reaction/closeout time is quite slower on shooters compared to the raps who close out hard pretty consistently. The bucks closeout time issue from last playoffs could be due to lack to experience in an elite system(kidd to bud) and most likely will be much better this playoffs. 3. Nurse’s desperate zone and trap defense won’t work on bud this year as has been utilizing the post up and pick and roll which was almost non existent last year and is zone buster.
Top defenders: Kawhai, Giannis, Gobert, Ben Simmons, and Joel Embiid. Would love to see a video on Ben Simmons defensive improvements. He’s made absolute strides in that department this year.
Wow an amazing video as always. I am always shocked by your knowledge and detailed breakdowns. Watching these feel like my basketball iq goes tremendously up man thanks!
I would either back up and get brook on an island after turning the corner, try a stop and go, or pause in the lane for a moment wit my defender on my hip and wait for the big to move brook so I can do a floater. Food for thought when attacking a deep drop
please please PLEASE make a video assessing Rudy Gobert defensive effectiveness and how his ability to cover so much ground turns the Jazz into a top 2 defensive team. He’s so valuable and many people don’t understand it.
What is their D like compared to last year? Giannis has improved. How about the rest of the team? Great video. Very interesting that clogging the paint is legit in this era, which is essentially what you'd see in 90s + 00s bball.
A lot of people overestimate shooting especially in the playoffs. Most bigs can’t shoot that well from 3 ( only a few like towns, Jokic, dirk, pj tucker, etc.) really make you get out there. But this defense wouldn’t work against the top western conference teams
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just watching the first like 2 minutes I'm guessing this defense would be in trouble if a faced a fully healthy warriors or rockets team in the playoffs since they prioritize the paint of 3pt shooters
its what happened to them in the Toronto series last season (everyone in the Raptors rotation is a good shooter + VanVleet and co were on fire with so many more open threes available) and why they got blown out by Philadelphia on Christmas Day when Philly made a very out-of-character 50% of their 3s (partly a great shooting night, partly those 3s being easier to make when they're both more open especially for usually poor shooters) I can see drop coverage making them more susceptible to a great midrange shooter too, but there aren't a ton of midrange gods on the tier of KD and Kawhi and CP3
Coach Daniel uploaded about how good Donte D'Vincenzo is on defense. The problem with the Bucks is offense because once Giannis sits, their offense suffers.
Not completely relevant but Giannis has been DPOY for four years straight in MyGM, which has boggled my mind. Thanks for making it make sense to me, haha
I would love to see you take a peak into the most recent draft class best players to see how they have improved since your first looked them over. Players like Fox Ball BI Ben etc
dope vid ! i don’t know if this has been done but an analysis on who would be the best player in the NBA if there were no teams, defenses, offenses, systems, etc. built around them to make them successful. For example: giannis’ bucks building their defense for him or Curry’s warriors being the perfect system for him to either shoot the ball lights or make perfect passing plays. Who would be the Best player in a scenario like that, given their pure basketball talent if they were to be put on a random team
Love this idea. When people talk about "better" players they usually talk about it as "who would win one-on-one" which ignores everything like passing, vision, playmaking, off-ball movement, basketball IQ, team defense etc
This question is intriguing but difficult to me. While true The warriors and Bucks deploy systems that adhere to their star players, it’s also true that the systems don’t function nearly as well without them. Steph and Giannis are the systems. The warriors, even with KD , were less efficient and effective offensively without Steph. Whereas with no KD, the warriors were still top 5 in net rating and very efficient with curry on the court. Same with Giannis. This Bucks team is littered with insane defensive talent yet, they are so much worse defensively with Giannis off the court. To answer though I think it’s KD. He fits in any system and will always be a tier 1 bucket generator with his ability to space the floor
Shawn Tillis I agree. It’s so difficult and i don’t even know if i managed to put in words with what i was tryna ask but i guess it was clear enough! You’re right. Warriors and Bucks system is what makes their teams and superstars flourish. I would put KD, lebron, and kawhi because i feel like in order to truly dominate without your system built around you, then a forward would be the one position to do it. Those 3 have the talent to score, defend, and attract all defenses towards them to create plays. I would just love to see an analysis on who would truly dominate the most, given these circumstances
Zayaan Ali this question has been on my mind for a while lol. I’d honestly say KD, Lebron, and Kawhi could be put on any team or system and just dominate but i need a break down analysis to prove me wrong or at least educate on who would be the absolutely most dominant in any circumstance, given the type of player they are and the talent they possess!
@@gilly2026 Yeah I think they would dominate on any team too. But I guess its also a question of how we judge "better" because if a Steph or a Giannis provides the opportunity for a smart team to build a system that raises their ceiling so much, there's an argument to be made that isn't that in itself valuable? I can understand the argument that this approach preferences floor-raisers over ceiling-raisers. Steph on a rubbish team where he has responsibilities that aren't his greatest strengths may not do as well as a more versatile player, but the more versatile player may not be the key to a GOAT-level championship team the way that Steph's unique talents allow the Warriors to be. The same way Steph wouldn't contribute as much in a "generic" system as some other stars, almost nobody else could make this extremely effective system work if they replaced Steph. Arguably the ability to allow a coach to create a flawless system is in itself part of what makes a player great. Which is why these questions are so hard to answer I think.
Jon Juko Goat status ? 🌝Lol, imagine taking a 6’11 guy that can’t shoot over two 6’11 guys like AD and KD that can do everything Giannis can do but are much more skilled outside of 6 feet. Giannis can play don’t get me wrong but he’s a very poor man’s Shaq. Harden, AD, KD, Kawhi, curry, jokic, Joel Embiid, all better than Giannis.
I would change Giannis with Kevin Garnet, you get similar defensive versatility, more floor spacing, a good pick and pop option, another off ball player to play around Jordan or Curry, who would be the ball handlers most of the time, and KG is a better passer; but Giannis is not a bad option, I just think KG would fit better.
@@keevancrawford6708 When you already have Curry, Jordan, KD and Hakeem, you don't need another guy that can draw triple team, KG is a better off ball player and a better passer, so he would fit better with other ball dominant players, and we wouldn't lose nothing on defense, yes, Giannis is better than KG, but on your team, KG would fit better, having too much on ball creators is not a good strategy, since the primarily ball handlers would be Jordan and KD, Hakeem would also had problems since he isn't the best off ball player and he is not that great of a passer to be have the ball on his hands a lot, so put a 4 that can play off ball would be better for the team.
@@pedroaugustocosta2533 Yes you do. The more high gravity players the better. Makes everyone’s job easier off ball. Giannis force a triple (or wall in the paint) and Curry stretching the defense to half court is unstoppable. The spacing, cutting lanes, and open shots would be super effective and efficient basketball. Giannis is DPOY, MVP and Finals MVP. Believe it or not, he’s the best PF ever.
@@keevancrawford6708 Again, having a lot of players that need the ball on their hands is not a great strategy, putting versatile guys that can pass is way more useful, again, Giannis is great, he is incredible, but a 4 that could shoot would be better, and KG could space the floor while being as great as a defender or even better than Giannis And Tim Duncan is the best PF ever.
It's so hard to judge because Giannis plays with so many great defenders. Lopez, Middleton, and Bledsoe are all elite at their position and they have such a brilliant coach. Giannis may be the best defender but it's harder to tell then it is with a player on a worse team
Can you make a similar video, but on Pascal Siakam? Since Giannis is the best defender on the team that’s ranked #1 in def. rtg, it would be interesting to see an analysis on Pascal since he’s the best defender on the league’s 2nd best defensive team the Raptors.
Like always this was some great insight. Could you do AD next and see where his defense stacks? In my mind AD was the favorite for DPOY this year but I want to see where you stand on that. Thanks :]
This is why kawhi is the ultimate stopper for the bucks and giannis. Mid range sniper who can kill them from mid range and can lock up giannis as the best defender in the nba against him
Kawhi was not even the primary defender on Giannis in the ECF last season. You all are giving him way too much credit for stoping Giannis, while Giannis was triple teamed in every offensive possession
Brook Lopez makes their defensive system better, Giannis is the system
- If Giannis is the meat, Lopez is the Potato. Everyone else is just the garnish.
Wing Stop pause
@@clutchmoney33 yeah pause 😂😂
Definitely agree, having brook under the rim makes their defense soo much better
@@wingstop5541 let me put it this way Middleton is the rice Giannis is the chicken Brook Lopez is The tomato sauce Jrue Holiday is basically the Beans or Gandulez if you wanna go boricua with me (stay with me I'm hungry af as of this writing) and Mike Budenholzer is basically the tostones
I'd be ok with AD getting the DPOY, but in my estimation it's time to appreciate everything Giannis does on the court and give him both of the major awards.
Absolutely. If he didn't have to carry them on offense and focused solely on defense he could be the best defender of all time.
@@33crushman thats a stretch but ok ig u can say that. Also that could apply to most two way players
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@@Parsa-je1vd - When Jordan won it, truly amazing. Scoring champ -- multiple times. And DPOY? GOAT.
As soon as I see "thinking basketball " I click. These videos are too good
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he's gotta step 20-40 seconds below the line to maximize efficiency instead of taking all these long 2s. gotta raise his true monetization percentage
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All meaningful things in life should be free.
@@realitygutter9694 Wow that's a strong quote right there!!!
@@realitygutter9694 That line hit me hard i can say. That much I came here again to reply. I thought what you said and actually all the meaningful things actually are free. E.g. Love, (sex), a smile, a good joke, becoming a parent, a good company, etc. All these are free and are the most meaningful in my opinion.
@@remali26 Exactly my friend.
Giannis' unreal competitiveness is what truly makes him the great defender hs is
yeah, he does have a snarling menace and aggressiveness to just dominate you defensively every single game that a lot of the other great defenders don't have on a nightly basis
It’s mostly his physical presence, Kobe was competitive too but not the paint beast giannis is
This guy was talking all this legitimate strategy and you go straight to nonsense ESPN talking points lol. Platitudes. “He just wants it more”
Doesn't mean I'm wrong 🤷🏾♂️
@@TheCStrike2 LMAO THANK YOU!!!
Yeah this was an immediate click. Amazing video (I assume).
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Great video.
I was campaigning Giannis for DPOY early on in the season while most people lobbied for Davis.
3:20 "in Phoenix recently"
*recently*
I miss basketball :(
when you blow by Giannis and try to lay it up, you actually set yourself up for a chase down block.
I've never seen a man get by Giannis or on a fast break with Giannis near and not get blocked.
@@samh.9524 3:39
Love the sweeper in soccer reference 👍🏿👍🏿
The help and recover block on suns Ayton is now legendary
Giannis is incredibly, I feel blessed being able to see him play
Just bought your book and honestly, I'm getting so much to learn about misconceptions and biases in basketball analysis. Your takes are always spot on and fact-backed.
Well I guess the only question now is......
Who are the other two greater defenders?
top of my head... im thinking Leonard and RonaRudy
Gobert and Draymond? I think Kawhi should get the nod when it’s playoff time too
definitely AD this year must be up there. advanced metrics love AD. As for the 3rd, I don't know.
Lowkey I think he’d say Ben Simmons
@@selimfirat Draymond bby
Imagine having how much it sucked for the Lopez’s mom to give birth to those giant guys
Splash Birth Canal.
You're making it seem like they fucking walked out of her womb as 7ft giants
@@yeatdagoat173 Thanks for putting that image into my head
@@yeatdagoat173 Duuude gross.
@@yeatdagoat173 First of all, that's a gruesome picture in my head. Secondly, they had to be big children. And two of them at the same time? Yikes
Man these videos are too good, the fact that you don’t add another 20-40 second to the video to get adds is just a testament to the quality of your content.
I saw from the NBA report that in 2019 there wasn't a single correct defensive 3 seconds call in the last 2 minutes of games, I think it's time to get rid of it and give the defenders an edge for once
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No matter how the game changes, the bread and butter of dunks and lay-ups are the heart of basketball. Bucks' defense knows that. Plus, the efficient shooting crew and kick outs from Giannis essentially nullifies any extra threes they might give up. I for one, am interested to see how this works in a playoffs. Will hot shooting teams catch fire, or will the inability to get a secure rim attempt throw teams off???
i know they've refined the system since then but last playoffs we got an idea of what might happen against an elite team with the personnel to 1) build a wall to defend Giannis 2) make a ton of those threes offered up by the system + possibly 3*) make the midrange shots left open from drop coverage
very few teams have the personnel to do both (maybe only the Clippers and Raptors though the Raptors may not have enough star power this time, possibly the Celtics, a full-strength Warriors)
unless they either have a crazy shooting night like the Sixers on Christmas day, or are so dominant in the paint they can negate the Bucks advantage at the rim and not need a ton of threes, which the Lakers did in their regular season game and the Sixers *could* if they're playing at their best
*_The Lakers Clippers and Raptors watching this rn_* : _Interesting..._
It makes me mad you don’t stretch it out 36 seconds dude this is amazing content I would honestly watch a add a minute to support u
Bro... seriously how are you not getting 1 million views a vid u truly deserve it
This is like Steph on offense lol
Warriors with Steph: +100000
Warriors without Steph: +0.1
I feel like clay also plays a big part but obviously Steph plays and huge part
@@Mike-km3fx for sure, but Steph is like the key piece
There is a jxmyhighroller video on this, it's really nice
That's why it would be way too dangerous if the two of them joined together, Steph and Giannis would be worse than Steph and KD because of the incredible synergy their games would have together
@@bryanmejia3498 that would mean AD would have to go to Dallas to split the next 10 titles. Yes. Luka kristaps and Anthony would be needed. Also AD would have to burn so much energy on D that his O would suffer
@@abcezas Balance restored I guess
Considering when this video was made, 5:58 is like some mad foreshadowing.
Giannis for MVP and DPOY?
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Giannis is Milwaukee's defense Autocorrection
Andrew Fischbach you and me both know that’s not true
Bucks have 5 guys in the top 10 in defensive efficiency. Bledsoe is a all nba defender, giannis is a all nba defender, brook is the best rim protector, Middleton is a good wing defender and so is wesley matthews. Then add in robin lopez, donte divencenzo, George hill, erson ilyasova, ect. Brook, giannis, robin are the top 3 rim protectors in the league this year and the bucks are rated the best defense since the 04 pistons. People who disagree that there the best defense are delusional.
Andrew Fischbach Ben Simmons. Yeahhhhh, I don’t think you can possibly say that Bledsoe is better. Also Beverly is a dog. 🤡
These fantastic videos serve to look at the great work that coaches and their assistants do to continually adjust their defensive systems, which go unnoticed by most. Details that are hard to see during the games.
Oh nice, this is something that I thought about a month or two ago; didn't come to any super clear conclusions myself
Man I wish you'd make wayy more videos , I absolutely love your analysis
Big Milwaukee fan, so I’m biased, but Giannis’ defensive effort is just so infectious. Bledsoe, Wes, and Donte are all fantastic man wing defenders, pat and Khris put in a ton of effort, even if they aren’t as talented on D, and they have a lot of freedom to chase above screens because Giannis and the bros Lopez are going to clean up any sloppiness.
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Great perspective as always. But to key in one point of the video, the scheme takes advantage of certain players strengths while covering up their weaknesses. And that has always been the over arching concept the history of great NBA defenses. Giannis' playing stellar help defense lets Brook/Robin do their drop back role and protect the rim. If the person driving tries to slip around Giannis is around and most likely will find a way to help out. To a point where he is present in multiple sequences even to the point where he's also challenging the shot at the rim.This also impacts the Bucks perimeter on-ball defenders like Bledsoe and DiVicenzo. Bledsoe whose really good at snaking around screens so he can bulldog his target and plays into the overall defensive scheme. So all the players are on-point with their roles which allows them to get the most out defending every given situation outside of certain teams and what matchups they can bring.
Rockets would average 150 ppg against this defense
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Someone needs to hire you full time on cable for this. Amazing content!
Knowing the Bucks scheme especially when laid out as beautifully as it is in this video is why I hate when people talk about the Raptors last season making a ton of threes like it was a fluke. The Bucks defense is built on protecting the rim at the expense of conceding a ton of (more open) threes and strategically leaving options open like he says here, Toronto took advantage of it by having 5 good shooters on the floor at all times (especially Powell, VanVleet and Ibaka off the bench) and making a ton of the shots they were open for, especially after two teams in the Magic and Sixers who used their length to bother the likes of VanVleet at the perimeter a lot more. It wasn't some random coincidence even if Hardwood Paroxysm and Bucks Twitter insist it was a fluke. They refined it this season but the philosophy and its potential soft underbelly remains
Toronto only lost Game 1 after Robin Lopez became Tall Klay Thompson for a night and once they figured out the adjustment to defend Giannis they won 4 straight games because it was paired with ruthlessly attacking the Bucks' scheme of allowing a ton of threes. That's the flaw with their system, it works perfectly against almost everyone unless they're making their threes. When they got blown out by Philly late last December it was because the Sixers uncharacteristically made 50% of their threes and Milwaukee allows a ton of those. If they play a team that shoots 3s at a high enough eFG% comparable to the points they're preventing at the rim they're susceptible
The amount of threes that FVV made last year was undeniably a fluke/a crazy hot stretch which is unsustainable
@@TheRealNog the bucks system leaves them open to an elite catch-and-shoot player
catching fire, which is the kind of thing that happens in playoff series. it wasn't unforeseeable because we know role players having insane stretches is a common-ish playoff occurence and they made no adjustments when it started happening
especially because they have a "pick our poisons and leave some players more open than others" defensive philosophy since they focus on the rim at the expense of the perimeter, which only works if there's at least one poor shooter in the rotation, which the raptors didn't. that meant the guy they picked to leave more open was the coldest shooter coming into the series and the shortest player who they thought they'd be able to close out even from a distance due to their length, which was vanvleet. they basically offered up those opportunities to vanvleet on purpose and he took advantage. that choice was a major factor
yeah fvv made a lot more than what would be expected which contributed to how comfortably the Raptors won the four games in a row and part of it was that he was on fire after his son was born, but a big part of it was also that he's a knockdown shooter who was finally getting a ton of more open looks after living a nightmare in the Sixers series
a z no because FVV shot 10% against philly and 57% against the bucks that’s why people say it’s because he had a baby in his career he was never over 40% but suddenly he makes 57%
@@ahmedibrahim7672 and did the bucks defensive scheme make no difference as to why? the sixers closed out on him and used size to bully him because they're a team of giants with a bullyball defensive scheme and it contributed to him shooting far worse than usual. the bucks conceded a ton of open 3s and particularly allowed vanvleet to take a ton of open 3s. 57% may be unsustainable but you'd expect a good catch-and-shoot player given that much space to take that many 3s to shoot above 40%. he's at 39% this year on a lot of attempts many off the dribble and he's always been good from 3
You are right and wrong at the same time. 1.The raps use the same paint first perimeter second defense although the coverage mechanics are different hence why they are top 2 defenses. 2. The only standout difference is that the bucks reaction/closeout time is quite slower on shooters compared to the raps who close out hard pretty consistently. The bucks closeout time issue from last playoffs could be due to lack to experience in an elite system(kidd to bud) and most likely will be much better this playoffs. 3. Nurse’s desperate zone and trap defense won’t work on bud this year as has been utilizing the post up and pick and roll which was almost non existent last year and is zone buster.
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Great explaination of drop coverage
This video basically describes how they bout to win the finals
Top defenders: Kawhai, Giannis, Gobert, Ben Simmons, and Joel Embiid. Would love to see a video on Ben Simmons defensive improvements. He’s made absolute strides in that department this year.
Even the clips with Giannis getting beat still are crazy shots being made
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Your videos are well articulated and always unbiased.
Greetings from Quebec, Canada.
Wish mainstream nba reporters would watch this. MVP & DPOY.
could you do a break down of the raptors defence?
I might be mistaken but I think he already did a while ago!
bballbreakdown did a great video of the raptors d
Wow an amazing video as always. I am always shocked by your knowledge and detailed breakdowns. Watching these feel like my basketball iq goes tremendously up man thanks!
This channel is so underrated
Great that you mentioned Coach Daniel, he also produces amazing stuff
I would either back up and get brook on an island after turning the corner, try a stop and go, or pause in the lane for a moment wit my defender on my hip and wait for the big to move brook so I can do a floater. Food for thought when attacking a deep drop
this dude deserve more subs
please please PLEASE make a video assessing Rudy Gobert defensive effectiveness and how his ability to cover so much ground turns the Jazz into a top 2 defensive team. He’s so valuable and many people don’t understand it.
Well he just granted your wish. Rudy Gobert is a role player offensively though.
Great video as always. How about making a video on Simmon's defense next?
What is their D like compared to last year?
Giannis has improved.
How about the rest of the team?
Great video.
Very interesting that clogging the paint is legit in this era, which is essentially what you'd see in 90s + 00s bball.
A lot of people overestimate shooting especially in the playoffs. Most bigs can’t shoot that well from 3 ( only a few like towns, Jokic, dirk, pj tucker, etc.) really make you get out there. But this defense wouldn’t work against the top western conference teams
You probably get this alot but you are one of the best Basketball analytic channels! I really love your content and look forward to everything you make in the coming future!
2:28 Giannis 7ft ass just watching Brook fight for his life down there 😂
My guy brought up the sweeper! Very very nicely done
not many people in nba history as versatile as giannis
just watching the first like 2 minutes I'm guessing this defense would be in trouble if a faced a fully healthy warriors or rockets team in the playoffs since they prioritize the paint of 3pt shooters
Both of these teams dont have the defense to stop Giannis tho.
its what happened to them in the Toronto series last season (everyone in the Raptors rotation is a good shooter + VanVleet and co were on fire with so many more open threes available) and why they got blown out by Philadelphia on Christmas Day when Philly made a very out-of-character 50% of their 3s (partly a great shooting night, partly those 3s being easier to make when they're both more open especially for usually poor shooters)
I can see drop coverage making them more susceptible to a great midrange shooter too, but there aren't a ton of midrange gods on the tier of KD and Kawhi and CP3
i think they would be fucked against the Miami heat with this scheme
@@fst5349 but if you're taking 2s and dishing 3s, you win
A fully healthy Warriors team doesn't even take that many threes. It's a commonly perpetuated myth by people who don't watch the Warriors.
With jrue holiday this season they gonna be scary defensive team in the playoffs
As a new fan to the nba, brook Lopez is one of my favourite players to watch and fun to play in 2k.
Coach Daniel uploaded about how good Donte D'Vincenzo is on defense. The problem with the Bucks is offense because once Giannis sits, their offense suffers.
Finally someone who can explain
If they don’t give him the DPOY this year...again...boy
Not completely relevant but Giannis has been DPOY for four years straight in MyGM, which has boggled my mind. Thanks for making it make sense to me, haha
"midrange 2s are less efficient for most players"
shows devin booker
Cp3 kawhi demar
Yeah most players
That wasn't the point of the clip
Smooth as always
I would love to see you take a peak into the most recent draft class best players to see how they have improved since your first looked them over. Players like Fox Ball BI Ben etc
dope vid ! i don’t know if this has been done but an analysis on who would be the best player in the NBA if there were no teams, defenses, offenses, systems, etc. built around them to make them successful. For example: giannis’ bucks building their defense for him or Curry’s warriors being the perfect system for him to either shoot the ball lights or make perfect passing plays. Who would be the Best player in a scenario like that, given their pure basketball talent if they were to be put on a random team
Love this idea. When people talk about "better" players they usually talk about it as "who would win one-on-one" which ignores everything like passing, vision, playmaking, off-ball movement, basketball IQ, team defense etc
This question is intriguing but difficult to me. While true The warriors and Bucks deploy systems that adhere to their star players, it’s also true that the systems don’t function nearly as well without them. Steph and Giannis are the systems. The warriors, even with KD , were less efficient and effective offensively without Steph. Whereas with no KD, the warriors were still top 5 in net rating and very efficient with curry on the court. Same with Giannis. This Bucks team is littered with insane defensive talent yet, they are so much worse defensively with Giannis off the court.
To answer though I think it’s KD. He fits in any system and will always be a tier 1 bucket generator with his ability to space the floor
Shawn Tillis I agree. It’s so difficult and i don’t even know if i managed to put in words with what i was tryna ask but i guess it was clear enough! You’re right. Warriors and Bucks system is what makes their teams and superstars flourish. I would put KD, lebron, and kawhi because i feel like in order to truly dominate without your system built around you, then a forward would be the one position to do it. Those 3 have the talent to score, defend, and attract all defenses towards them to create plays. I would just love to see an analysis on who would truly dominate the most, given these circumstances
Zayaan Ali this question has been on my mind for a while lol. I’d honestly say KD, Lebron, and Kawhi could be put on any team or system and just dominate but i need a break down analysis to prove me wrong or at least educate on who would be the absolutely most dominant in any circumstance, given the type of player they are and the talent they possess!
@@gilly2026 Yeah I think they would dominate on any team too. But I guess its also a question of how we judge "better" because if a Steph or a Giannis provides the opportunity for a smart team to build a system that raises their ceiling so much, there's an argument to be made that isn't that in itself valuable?
I can understand the argument that this approach preferences floor-raisers over ceiling-raisers. Steph on a rubbish team where he has responsibilities that aren't his greatest strengths may not do as well as a more versatile player, but the more versatile player may not be the key to a GOAT-level championship team the way that Steph's unique talents allow the Warriors to be. The same way Steph wouldn't contribute as much in a "generic" system as some other stars, almost nobody else could make this extremely effective system work if they replaced Steph. Arguably the ability to allow a coach to create a flawless system is in itself part of what makes a player great. Which is why these questions are so hard to answer I think.
Can we get a video on KAT and his historic offensive numbers? Man is criminally underrated
keep them coming! I could watch these all day! Do up the vids to 10 minutes and longer, stop taking those long two's!
Use the Gortat-style roll guy slamming into Lopez as a screen for the slasher.
The 5 dislikes are from the people saying Ben should make the video 10+ minutes long
Not to mention also Bledsoe and Khris Middleton being very good perimeter defenders as well
7:45 kemba has insane quickness
How he look fast in slo mo😂
Do an old school PIP D video analysis!!!
This is why Giannis has a legitimate shot at GOAT status
Jon Juko he already is the🐐🐐
Luuk Watzke personality wise maybe 👀
Jon Juko Goat status ? 🌝Lol, imagine taking a 6’11 guy that can’t shoot over two 6’11 guys like AD and KD that can do everything Giannis can do but are much more skilled outside of 6 feet. Giannis can play don’t get me wrong but he’s a very poor man’s Shaq. Harden, AD, KD, Kawhi, curry, jokic, Joel Embiid, all better than Giannis.
@@Thanosdidtherighthing other than lebron, kd , and curry those people u mentioned ain't better than giannis haha kawhi and him neck and neck though.
joel embiid kinda bummy though he can still turn things around. he needs to play like a center and stop taking 3s like a fool.
Amazing video as always
Great video!
I have been watching your videos for a while now. FANTASTIC JOB really. A question arises every time, where do you get all these stats?
What’s the name of the background music?
PG: Curry
SG: Jordan
SF: KD
PF: Giannis
C: Hakeem
You lose
I would change Giannis with Kevin Garnet, you get similar defensive versatility, more floor spacing, a good pick and pop option, another off ball player to play around Jordan or Curry, who would be the ball handlers most of the time, and KG is a better passer; but Giannis is not a bad option, I just think KG would fit better.
@@pedroaugustocosta2533 KG isn’t drawing a triple+ team
@@keevancrawford6708 When you already have Curry, Jordan, KD and Hakeem, you don't need another guy that can draw triple team, KG is a better off ball player and a better passer, so he would fit better with other ball dominant players, and we wouldn't lose nothing on defense, yes, Giannis is better than KG, but on your team, KG would fit better, having too much on ball creators is not a good strategy, since the primarily ball handlers would be Jordan and KD, Hakeem would also had problems since he isn't the best off ball player and he is not that great of a passer to be have the ball on his hands a lot, so put a 4 that can play off ball would be better for the team.
@@pedroaugustocosta2533 Yes you do. The more high gravity players the better. Makes everyone’s job easier off ball. Giannis force a triple (or wall in the paint) and Curry stretching the defense to half court is unstoppable. The spacing, cutting lanes, and open shots would be super effective and efficient basketball.
Giannis is DPOY, MVP and Finals MVP. Believe it or not, he’s the best PF ever.
@@keevancrawford6708 Again, having a lot of players that need the ball on their hands is not a great strategy, putting versatile guys that can pass is way more useful, again, Giannis is great, he is incredible, but a 4 that could shoot would be better, and KG could space the floor while being as great as a defender or even better than Giannis
And Tim Duncan is the best PF ever.
Can you please do breakdowns on teams similar to your player breakdowns?
Man your content is sm better than espn
Need Giannis back to this level of defense in the 2023/2024 playoffs.
Love your videos man
Can we get a Marcus Smart defensive video? I feel like he’s still under appreciated
It's so hard to judge because Giannis plays with so many great defenders. Lopez, Middleton, and Bledsoe are all elite at their position and they have such a brilliant coach. Giannis may be the best defender but it's harder to tell then it is with a player on a worse team
76ers will expose them in the playoffs
Diego Velazquez no they won’t lmao
Great video. Do you think the Magic could duplicate this with Isaac and Bamba in a few years if they continue to improve?
Can you make a similar video, but on Pascal Siakam? Since Giannis is the best defender on the team that’s ranked #1 in def. rtg, it would be interesting to see an analysis on Pascal since he’s the best defender on the league’s 2nd best defensive team the Raptors.
I think OG Anunoby might be their best defender
We missed you
Giannis 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
He just won DPOY ahaha Godspeed
Coach Mike Budenholzer really turned the Bucks to an elite level team just like what he did to the Hawks prior.
Like always this was some great insight. Could you do AD next and see where his defense stacks? In my mind AD was the favorite for DPOY this year but I want to see where you stand on that. Thanks :]
he did one on AD already
After watching this I so much want to see your side to side comparison of the Lopez brothers and what makes Brook so much more effective than Robin.
Was that a Matthew Mcconaughey impression or a J Kyle Mann impression 🤔
Time is flat circle....
This is why kawhi is the ultimate stopper for the bucks and giannis. Mid range sniper who can kill them from mid range and can lock up giannis as the best defender in the nba against him
Not just Kawhi. PG and Lou will all
Good from mid range not to mention Harrell would
Actually attack the Lopez bros
Kawhi was not even the primary defender on Giannis in the ECF last season. You all are giving him way too much credit for stoping Giannis, while Giannis was triple teamed in every offensive possession
Gorgeous video