Goshen Cable Install Pop Up Camper | Rockwood 2280BHESP
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Thank you very much! Instructions that came with the Goshen crank were faded and unreadable. This video saved me a bunch of time and headache!
Hey that’s great! So glad it helped 🙏 and thanks for the feedback!
I have inherited an old camper and have no clue how to maintain this. You exposed all the components so i can feel comfortable doing things as simple as greasing it! The best help GOSHEN video by far. You seem like a cool dewd to be around. Your energy is overwhelmingly positive! Thank you
Such nice things to say! Thank you my friend 🙏 Glad it was a help 👏 and happy camping to you!
Thank you so much for this video, the written instructions from Goshen werent great. Couldn’t have done it with out your video. All the best to you!
I appreciate the feedback 🙏
Huge help! Well done. You had clear and easy to understand instructions. We're replacing our Pop-up's cable and springs. God bless you and yours, Brother!
Thank you so much for the feedback! God bless you and your family as well brother 🙏❤
Great video. Your use of the cardboard to keep the everything clean was brilliant.
Thank you 🙏
Thanks Michael for the fast response and helpful 🙏
You got it brother!
The timing of your video is great! I just bought a used SylvanSport Go & stayed overnight at a campsite after I purchased it. I set it up at the sellers house & packed it up when I left the next morning. No issues. I set it up at the campsite. No issues. The next morning I was unable to bring the top down. The handle was spinning freely counter clockwise.
Looking underneath the winch area I saw the cable was wrapped both on the inside & outside of the drum. It was also shredded by the winch teeth. At that time I didn't even know what kind of system Sylvan used to raise/lower the top. It was a Sun, so couldn't call them for help. Had 350 miles to get home. Ended up shoring the top with 2x4's wedged in each corner & zip tied to the upright posts, and driving slowly home.
Eventually I learned what lift system the Go uses. Sylvan told me to take it to an RV Center to get cable replaced. My gut told me that with the right attitude, information, patience, replacement parts, etc. I could do it myself.
Just so you know, I've shared your video with the entire SylvanSport FB group I belong to, explaining that even if they never ended to up DIY, they should watch your video so they understand how the lift system works & the importance of proper & frequent lubing. Ton's of Likes!
I also shared your video with a friend who has a lot of mechanical/engineering experience. He's going to help me tackle this. Today I ordered the replacement cable direct from Goshen at considerable savings. Should be here in under a week.
So, now that I've wasted your time with all that - I have a question I'm hoping you can help answer.
The top is in the fully up position. I believe that means the section of cable that's wrapped around the winch is towards the end of the cable. I'm thinking that if there's enough excess cable, I might be able to just cut the damaged part off, crimp off the end, and reattach to the winch. >> And yes I noted your repair by splice.
There's tremendous tension on the cable going to the winch. I'm trying to determine if it's to my advantage that the top is all the way UP, or if I really need the weight off in order to replace the cable
Wow Larry you have been the unit! Rough start but you made it thru! So it sounds like you’re in the same position I was in when my electric winch tried to raise the roof on its own and destroyed itself. I ended up with a cockeyed roof stuck in the up position. I used 2x4s to hold it up! Then attached the new winch and connected the cable THEN I was able to turn the winch until there was tension on the cable, lift the roof slightly, remove the 2x4s and lower the roof. This is the video I made. It might help. ruclips.net/video/jvKrOAxnrI4/видео.html I had to source a local winch to save our camping week and later swapped it out with a proper goshen winch. I’m so happy to hear my experiences were able to help others! That’s the beauty of RUclips :) Let me know how your repair goes! Thanks again for sharing your story and for the great feedback 🙏
@@sstressfl I watched that video. Looks like my current issue pales in comparison. Envious of your fabrication skills!
@@larrysiegle5345 my dads fault 🤗 fortunately you shouldn’t need to fab things with the right parts on the way 👍
Just an update for you. I've been sharing & encouraging SylvanSport GO owners to watch your video, especially those having issues.
Along with that, I was able to install the new GoshenStamping cable without ever removing the pusher spring tubes. This is only because I couldn't figure out how to drop the pusher spring tubes, so I approached the cable replacement a different way. When I was all done replacing the cable, I couldn't get the back post to go down all the way. It would stop lowering with about 12 inches to go. I racked my brain & rewatched videos, etc trying to figure out what I did wrong.
A buddy came over yesterday to help. We figured out how to disconnect the pusher spring tubes. We pulled everything back out & he asked if I had the old cable. I did and he compared the pusher stop? the crimped on piece & found that one cable was different from the other, by about 12 inches.
For anyone reading - compare the old cable & the new before proceeding. Might save you a lot of time & trouble! So, now I'm working on getting yet another cable.
For the curious, there are no outside bolts to access the pusher spring tube on the SylvanSport Go. You have to crawl under each corner & look inside each corner in a very narrow space in-between the deck & the frame. There you will find a really large single bolt. We used a socket extension to get at it. Once we removed that single bolt, the pusher spring tube assembly dropped & we were able to completely remove the rear pusher springs.
@@larrysiegle5345 Thats a pain! And what's worse is you don't know if you have the wrong cable until you tear the old one out. I remember praying that the new one I had was a match. Thankful it was. And thank you for the update Larry! Maybe you can share/archive your findings on www.popupportal.com/ as well.
Thank you for this GREAT video/ explanation of this replacement. So easy to follow and replace the main cable because of your video!!
Thank you for the feedback 🙏 so glad to hear it helped 🙏🙏🙏
Best vid I saw on the pop up cable system. Tks for sharing and happy camping 🫡
Thank you 🙏 you too!
You are a gift from heaven.
Perfect tutorial. Got it done first try. Thanks for the help!
That’s great news! And thank you for the feedback 🙏❤️
Thank you so much!! This video was extremely helpful and filled in the blanks of the install.
Thank you for the feedback 🙏Hope your camping season is a great one!
So, Need to repair my Viking Pop up - and was intimidated by the job till I watched your video - Thanks - Looking forward to camping season this year!!!
So glad it helped and appreciate the feedback my friend 🙏 Enjoy your season!
Awesome! My rockwood is a bit older but has the same issue. This should help me get everything working again!
Glad to hear it 🙏👍
Awesome video filled with detail, easy to follow, well edited
Thank you 🙏
You make some serious food!!! 😎🤩 Sub’d!
Right back at cha. Subbed!
I’m pretty sure to do this you only really need to remove the rear springs according to the instructions the pulley in the back is also for adjustment if when you are raising it if front or back start lifting at different times can adjust it to make them even amazing video well detailed
They pusher springs are truly in the way. Feel free to do it your way but I found it easy and beneficial to drop all 4 springs. Thanks for the feedback 🙏
@@sstressfl Yeah it could be a pain to push the cable through the front springs. Might as well just drop them out
You did an outstanding job of explaining (and demonstrating) the Goshen system! I just purchased an 07 Flagstaff with this system, seems dry as toast. Not good! I appreciate your time!
Thank you for your feedback and kindness 🙏 Sounds like a lot of lubricant will get your top moving safely and easily again.
Great video. Thank you
Thank you 🙏
DUDE! So grateful you share your knowledge on the interwebs. Of all the material I have watched on RUclips, this is truly the first time I have understood how this system works. We are back to a more simple pop-up with manual winch (after a frustrating season with an electric one) and love tinkering on it. Can't wait to follow you guys this camping season, God Bless!
Really grateful for the feedback!! And ohhhhh my-electric-winch-brother, I feel your pain. But SO happy you found true freedom from the electric winch. The manual is the right solution :) Thanks again for the kindness! God bless you too 🙏
my year old rockwood 1970esp stunned me, i came out to find my top extended on it's own (thankfully the latches were undone) the limit switch failed so my winch plate curled down almost completely inside the frame. yeah thanks to your videos i'll get the goshen coming this morning. for all to think about, what if one were driving on the highway and it engaged its self. thanks for posting these videos, very informative.
The winch is so dangerous! Thankful no one was hurt. My frustration with the electric winch was pushed to its peak when I called to tell the dealer what had happened, how it pushed our roof to its limits and beyond on its own and caused damage, and the dealer said "oh yeah, thats why you need a shut off switch on those things". He knew! It was common! Yet they didnt say a word to me when I was buying it. But he was willing to come to our house and fix it for big money. The manual winch is the best solution. Thanks for sharing! You won't regret it.
@@sstressfl my notification didn't show your response, just now found it rewatching, yesterday i noticed (i keep the top raised a couple inches to open/close the halfdoor) one corner had dropped. due to the winch malfunction the spring tube mount/flange cracked at the main tube and gave way. will remove with the confidence I've gained and try to weld the flange back on🤞 like you i was told they could send a repair man on a 2 day drive to fix things for a million $. put the manual winch on a few weeks ago, love it
$300.00 for a 4 pack of "special order" no return 6 to 8 week waiting time spring tubes
@@billhackley3540 Its good to be handy with tools, welders, etc 💪😎
@@billhackley3540 Wow that's expensive and a long wait. But it'll be worth it. I hope they bolt right up and you're on you find yourself to be a much happier camper :)
Awesome video as usual and great timing! I have new manual winch and cable sitting to be installed our 2018 2280bbhse this weekend to prep for our run to RMNP next month. Not sure if you have seen it, but there is another zerk on top (near the axel) that covers the springs on the top.
Thank you! Glad it can help you! I was rewatching the video this morning and was thinking that there must be a zert on top!! How else would grease get there? Thank you for the confirmation.
I finished my manual winch swap over the weekend. Not too hard but little dirty dealing with the greasy old cable and lift springs. Did it twice because goshen sent me wrong cable initially. Props to goshen for sending me correct one quickly. Only issue is mine takes bit of effort to raise thanks to my 15000btu AC and 200w solar panel on the roof. Still glad I did it as I do not have to worry about electric winch issues anymore. Thanks again for your vid made things lot easier seeing process before tackling.
@@wesrains9605 And now that you did it twice you are very capable and practiced! :) Uhhhg! I read that the 15000 AC is about 75 lbs and the 200w solar around another 30 lbs. That's a lot of extra weight for sure! I think one advantage of the manual winch is that you can feel the weight. Its critical to get those safetey bars installed before going inside. But I think with the manual winch it too easily hides the reality of all that weight. Its seriously dangerous and needs to be treated wih a little fear. Glad you got that done! Happy camping my friend.
Great job on the video. I have to say my rear spring tubes were MUCH harder to install on my pop up. The clearance for them was really tight. I had to align the tubes with the center tabs and then push the tubs in at the sides which took some force. i read that you pour a little 30 wt oil down the top of the spring tubes as you install them to help the springs slide smooth
Thank you!! And it sounds like you got everything working well?
@@sstressfl It went up and down a couple times without issue although the springs were making some strange creaky noises while cranking it up and back down. I know one of the springs has a slight kink towards the end, so I've got new springs coming. I greased the main tube, but maybe not enough. I'm wondering if it would be good to grease the main tube while the top is raised as well.
Thank you so much for this awesome video and I love your energy. What did you use to clamp the cable together to get by for a summer?
I used cable ferrules (2 on each loop) and a ferrule clamping tool and I used standard cable clamps (1 on each clamp). Here's the video when I installed them ruclips.net/video/dGUi2MKCRT4/видео.html
Sir, you are awesome. Also, would you mind sharing a link for the manual crank?
Thank you for your kind words 🙏 I called these guys and they sent me what I needed goshenstamping.com/ I hope that helps 👍
Thank you for the videos! Could you share the one that you "patched" the cable before replacing it.
Thank you 🙏 Here ya go! 2019 Rockwood Pop Up Manual Winch Install | Electric Winch Be Gone!
ruclips.net/video/dGUi2MKCRT4/видео.html
Awesome video, thank you! What grease did you use on your springs? Thank you in advance for your response! Looking forward to more pop up videos! 🙏🏻 Cheers!
Thank you! I used automotive bearing grease on my springs. And I spray the cable wrapped around the winch occassionally with silicone/triflow or even wd40 if that's all I have. wd40 wears off quicker, but its good in a pinch :) I hope that helps!
Hi Michael! Thanks for your videos! I have a question. Have you had to change a flat tire on your rockwood extreme sports package trailer? If so, what jack are you using? I have a 1970ESP and am trying to be prepared. However, give the high profile,
I am not sure what jack to use, jack on the axle or jack on the frame. Thanks!
Thanks for the kind words 🙏 I have not jacked up my camper yet. I bought a 16” bottle jack and assumed I would put a couple of pieces of wood underneath to give it the needed height to lift a wheel off the ground. I assumed I would keep the jack as close to the axle as possible but look for a clear solid spot on the primary boxed frame rail.
Great video! What type of grease did you use?
Thank you! I used Valvoline General Purpose grease that I picked up at auto zone for about $7 👍
Working on this today with my nephew on a rockwood freedom.
The front spring tab did you take off then put on once you got to front or did it all fit through?
We are struggling to get springs back in...get them about halfway and stops...the cables both go in same hole? My nephew initially took springs out so I didn't see how they came out. I'm a big guy and wasn't much clearance...
I dropped my springs but didn’t pull them out all the way, I just let them rest on the ground. When I was done they slid right back into place. I’m not sure what youre dealing with 🤔
@@sstressfl when our springs dropped they also moved inside the bars. Once I moved them again everything went together
Part the fun of having small teens help...they don't help
Ha
@@athruf4931 Hurray! So glad to hear it!!! 👏👏👏
I’m about to change out my electric winch for a Goshen one. Any trick to removing the electric one? Will the cable just unspool from it once I remove the bolts holding it to the camper frame?
Make sure your roof is all the way down, slack on the cable. Disconnect battery. Unbolt the cable clamp on the winch to release the cable from the winch. Disconnect the electrical wires from the winch. Unbolt the winch from the frame. Should be pretty straight forward 👍 here is a video I made when mine failed ruclips.net/video/jvKrOAxnrI4/видео.html
Hello! What kind of grease did you use in the grease gun for the zeros?
I used valvoline bearing grease 👍
How did you measure the cable for the right one what was the steps you took
My cable was cut and modified. I could not use it to get an accurate measurement. Sooo.... when I had problems with my power winch and decided I wanted a manual winch, I called Goshen Stamping company and they set me up with exactly what I needed for my specific pop up model. I had a good experience. So for a new cable, I called Goshen again. They sent me exactly what I needed. Precut and clamped and ready to install. goshenstamping.com/lift-system
I looking a 2005 starcraft that is not going down all the way it gets stuck about eight inches from the down position. I'm not sure if I want to buy it because I don't know what I would be getting myself in to. Do you have any ideas what it might be?
A lot of up and down issues involve a dry cable, pulley, or winch. Make sure everything is greased and lubed. It could be that simple 👍
@@sstressfl If the main cable gets frayed do you think it could hang up going in to the master tube and keep the top from going down. And thank you for the quick reply.
@@MrCsebike that sounds totally possible and dangerous! Be careful. But ya know, it’s all fixable. If you buy it… just make sure you take the weight off of that cable before working on it… you can use 2x4s cut to length to hold the top up! Hopefully the goshen system is the worst of it :)
@Michael Byrne thanks for the info I'll have to go back and look at it
hi gm i have a 96 dutchman popup and cables broke idk 😮what to do can u help me plz😮
If you just need parts, call these guys! They will make sure you have what you need. goshenstamping.com/lift-system But if you need the work done, you will need to find a good shop that can help you. Prayers for a successful project 🙏
I have an automatic 2020 lift system on my popup, I’m an idiot and forgot to unlatch one of the rear latches. Clearly something happened and now one or both of the back lift systems will not engage and raise the popup. I feel like I sheared something off or maybe broke a lift spring. Any ideas or suggestions for me to test or troubleshoot?
I’m sorry to hear it. So easy to cause damage with those electric lifts. They are so powerful. My first thought is make sure the roof is all the way down and then crawl underneath. It’s possible the pulley in the back snapped off! I think that would do it. Check your cables too. And consider getting rid of the power winch and replace it with a manual winch :) much safer!
@@sstressfl the pulley on the back is still there and it appears as
Though the cable is intact. I don’t know much about these things as it’s only our third year with it.
@@tromagna1 I’m guessing but it sure seems like a cable broke or has become detached. But all you can do is start to dig in and find what is no longer connected. Just make sure the roof is all the way down so you don’t get hurt 🙏👍
I just finished replacing the cable, however the front of the camper wont raise. Any ideas why?
Hmmmm.... i think you have the pusher springs in the wrong channel. The back springs should be in the top channel. The front springs should be in the bottom channel. The cable should route from the front thru the bottom channel to the pulley in the back then into the top channel. Does that make sense? Right now your lifting only the rear, I think, because you put the rear springs in the lower channel and the front has nothing to lift it up.
@@sstressfl I think I figured out the issue. I crimped the aluminum sleeve in the wrong spot.
@@Dill-Pickle any idea where the front crimp needs to be?
@@insurrectionist1287 I'm not sure, im just going to buy a premade one online.
What did you do with the electric cables?
The wire connections were covered. I simply taped them and strapped them down just in case I ever needed them again.
@@sstressfl thanks. I’m going to get the manual one. I dont trust the electric one.
@@downhill615 the manual winch is sooo peaceful, quieter, and so much safer. You wont regret it.
Where do you buy your csble?
From these amazing people! Cable source: goshenstamping.com/lift-system They ask some questions and make sure you get the right cable.
Did you do this by yourself or did you require help?
Just me and my tools :) Oh and some cardboard! :) It really wasnt that bad. Just needed to pay attention to how it came apart so I could put it back together the same.
Do you happen to remember the costs of the parts?
I cannot find a receipt anywhere… I did all of it over the phone but I think I paid $119. Prices have gone up, of course.
@@sstressfl thank you sir.
@@ArkansasRay I just ordered one through local rv service shop...$166.65 shipped....