While Timurid tribes were mostly Turkic, Babur himself was half-mongol as his mother was mongol. Yes in the Baburnama he clearly identified himself as Timurid Turk
Yes, you are right, I am from Andijan where Bobur was born in. Those people were mainly Turks, yes of course they have some mongol minority, but that mongol minority also got turkified already. Today we are colled Uzbeks, Kazaks, Turkmens,Karakalpaks and so on, But we are Turks in fact.
Yes, his mother was Mongol but the thing is in old times people didn't associate their leanage from their mothers and still don't. The culture and religion of the father and his tribe always determined the identity of the child.
@ wow, can’t believe you are from the same place as Babur. I am curious in what ways the Timurids were different from the Ozbeks that Babur mentioned in his Baburnama, who drove him out of Samarkand. Was it just a matter of different tribal allegiance or there were substantial cultural differences
@@beingxrehan No that's not true. The lineage from mother was also considered important, so that they can say that they are sons of honored women. Yes, name of women was not attached with children, but lineage was many times put in documentation.
Don’t forget Chengiz Khan, Kubla khan, Buta Khan & Halagu and Il khans. Most Mongols converted to Islam and married Central Asian Turks. Kazakh, Iighurs etc although speak Turkic languages are now mixed with Mongold. Khan is popular name in lands controlled by Mongols. Original Turks like the Seljuks and Ottomans moved to Anatolia which is present day Turkey. and introduced Turkish language there. Beg, zMustafa, Pasha,Chagtai indicate part Turkic ancestry, Various peoples like Hunas, Sskas, Parthians, Kushans entered Indian subcontinent in preislamic time gave rise to Rajputs tribes. Initially they adopted Buddhism & Hinduism. Later many became Muslims and Sikhs.
Lol Arabs and Turks have Genghis Khan DNA. They are also part of the "1 out 4" DNA of Genghis khan. They were so scared of him that they stayed away from Gengish Khan and then later stole Khan! People till now think Khan is a Muslim surname but its Mongol word meaning Leader!
But Babur was ethnically a Mughal/Mongol. Like you said, he claimed descent from Timur, and Timur claimed descent from Chengiz Khan, the ultimate Mughal. He might not have called his empire the Mughal Empire, but he was Mughal nonetheless.
Being related to someone and being identifying ethnicly are two totally different things, Timurids being related to Changis but they were completely Turkic by ethnicity, They were Perso-Turkic in nature culture language traditions music art dance festival cuisine custom, And they used to consider themselves as proud Turani Turks from Timur's lineage, as they mentioned in their own writings, That's it ✌️.
@@RajaRam_electrician I see what you're saying. You're saying though I may have Indian ancestry, and may even look Indian, the fact that I now live in England and identify with the English culturally, I am now ethnically English, not Indian. And in the same way, Babur was ethnically Turkic even if his ancestry was Mongol. Understood.
@@stellalunas499 you would be surprised if you found out...They take pride in the fact that their ancestors were taken as slaves and forced to convert after having to pay approximately a 50% land tax.
"Mughal" is actually persian word for Mongols. Those mongol-turks who got persianised culturally started looking down upon their original Mongol lineage and culture.
@@AliSidTex You words are non sense, Mughals were related to Mongols but they were majorly Turkic, They were such fools who can't appreciate their own culture
@@theresponsibleuser90 you need to learn the difference between identity and relations. Just because you might be related to a Mongol does not mean you identity as a Mongol. And there is no history of Mughals them calling themselves Mughal or Mongols. That was an identity completely created by the British to foreignize those they were trying remove from the subcontinent.
Mughal unidentified themselves as hindustanis /sulthanate of hindusthan. The term mughal was given by colonial historians and still the fight against mughal name is going on
@@AliSidTexyeah bro, they were persionised turco-mongols, persian was their court language not any turkic language, they give importance to persian culture. After coming to south asia they were indianised as well marriages with indian princess, having hindu rituals in marriages, indians in the courts, hindustani songs, hindustani language Basically mughals were turco mongols who was persianised later living and slowly adopting a South Asian culture/identity
@@hawkingdawking4572 Idiot brahmins are not iranians.They are descendents of Indus valley civilization people who were in earth much before iranians even born,idiot.
It was the way round Mughal were way more powerful than Marathas in majority of their history, May Allah bless the descendants of Mughals, they highly respected not only India but the rest of the world
@@abdurahman90982 Lol only paxtanis think their opinions matter. Mughals are spitted upon by most Indians and anyone who studies history with conscience knows they are like the East india company and would do the same.
@@shivrajgujar1what history book are reading please give me the name of the book ???😂😂😂 Mann when maratha capture Delhi ...they go for kabul and I hope u know what happed to them ,!! Ahmed shah abdali butchered all maratha ...which caused them not to loof back in Afghanistan ever ! And ..... Deccan me Aurangzeb approx 15 saal rha tha akele ! And no one dared to go against him ....one man dared to do so ...shivaji maharaj ! But guess what ....he only owns the Western Ghat. ..like kila of Pune ..... And after the death of Aurangzeb the Maratha empire expand .......usse phele sirf sirf ek chote se area pe raj krte the
Misha, you are right. We are not Mughals, but turkic people. Babur himself called his nation Turks in his book Baburname. Love to India from Uzbekistan.❤❤❤
Taj mahal is a beautiful example of Indo-persian architecture , motifs like hindu temples and indian stone carving art with persian glass cutting art and stone engravement along with indian engineering technology of flood proofing
То время все Персы попали на рабство Иране управлали Шах Исмаил Азарбайджанец , Афганистан Бабур завоевал так что то время не может быть какие-то персидский что -либо.
Mughal did not rule till mid 18th century. In fact, their rule practically ended with the death of Aurangzeb in 1707 A.D. After his death the Marathas ruled India. 18th century India belongs to the Maratha history. And they rule India till the third anglo-maratha war when they got defeated to British in 1818 A.D. 🙏🙏🙏
1857 rebels declared Bahadur Shah Zafar as their sultan. Also that the main throne of India was in Delhi, agra. The place of Delhi in indian history is just like that of Constantinople in turkey. That's why the Temurids were last rulers of India.
@aub3365 For your information after the death of Aurangzeb, the Mughals were reduced only to Delhi and its surroundings areas and had become the puppet of the Marathas. And, during the free struggle of 1857 not all rebels declared Bhahadur Shah Zafar as their leader. Many rebels fought under Maratha Peshwa Nana Saheb, Rani of Jhansi, and Raja Kuwar Singh of Jagdishpur. In fact, Bahadur Shah Zafar was the one who betrayed the rebels of Delhi. He was playing on the both sides like a double agent just to be in the safe side.
@@soumyadas6958 It is only you who is saying that Bahadur Shah Zafer played on both sides. He only took pension from brits, which other royals also took. Brits exiled him, where he died in poor condition. Why? because he was the primary organizer of rebellion (rebellion failed because he wasn't experienced enough to lead guerilla wars). With regards to Marathas, they were experiences warriors, and they used mountainous areas to raid their enemies. Had they fought the brits, india would never have become a colony. They sided with Brits in 1799 against Tipu Sultan and most probably, they facilitated british invasion of india.
@aub3365 If your read history then you wouldn't have said that. Maratha fought 3 wars with the brits what is called anglo-maratha wars. And, Marathas were not only mountainous warriors, they also had the best cavalry of that time time that is why Maratha Empire was expanded from Attock (Pakistan) to Cuttack and Delhi to Tanjavur. Peshwa Bajirao I was regarded the best cavalry general of that time. Peshwa Balaji Bajirao, Raghunath Rao, Madhavrao I, Mahadji Scindia and other maratha generals has expanded the Maratha Empire. And, brits exiled Bahadur Shah Zafar because he was double crossing them and they lost trust on him. And, Tipu Sultan was not fighting for India's independence, he was just fighting for his own kingdom. That time Tipu was taking the support of the French and Ottoman Empire to fight against the brits. And, French also wanted to colonize India at that time. If Tipu was fighting for India's independence then he wouldn't took the support of other colonial powers of that time like the French and the Ottomans. Not only Marathas, the Nizam of Hyderabad had also supported the Brits against Tipu. And, for you kind information Tipu and his father Hyder Ali were never the legitimate ruler of Mysore. In fact, his father Hyder Ali deposed the then ruler of Mysore the Wadiyar king from the throne illegally and put him along with his family under house arrest which was continued by Tipu as well. The people of Mysore never expected Tipu and his father as their legitimate ruler. And, after the death of Tipu the Wadiyar dynasty was again restored to the throne by the Brits which was accepted by the Marathas and Nizam.
Yes also explain how mughal despots used to give gifts in lakhs to uzbekistan from India's money. . Shahjahan gave 6 lakh to uzbekistan when bengal awadh was facing extreme famine..
I was shocked when I first came to know that they called themselves gurkani and not mughal.😂😂, glad to know other people are also aware of these things.
@@aryapremlokre3150 They used to consider themselves as proud Turani Turks from Timur's lineage of Gurkani House, Every Timurid ruler has some serious hatred towards Mughals or Mongols as they mentioned in their own writings, Mughal is the misnomer, which was later constructed term by European colonial writer's for them, This so called Mughals were entirely Turks, and used to take great pride in it, as they mentioned themselve, That's it ✌️.
@RajaRam_electrician I don't they had any pride in being turkic , what they actually had pride about was being related to timur , apart from that they didn't have any pride or love for their turkic culture , that's why they adopted persian.
@@aryapremlokre3150 First of all go and read Baburnama Akbarnaman Ani i akbari masri I Alamgir zafarnamam and Timurids court doc's, They used to consider themselves as Turani Turks 😅, Babur explicitly says in his memories, that he is very Proud to be a Chagatai Turk from Great Timur's lineage as proud Timurid, next he says everyone in Andijan are Chagatai Turks, and next to us are this filthy Mughals who are trying to dethrone me from my kingdom, and abuses the Mughals in his memories and same thing is done by Akbar and Aurangzeb as well, Timurids were entirely Perso-Turkic in Nature culture language traditions music art dance festival cuisine and customs, Aurangzeb writes letters to Ali Adil Shah of Bijapur in it he explicitly says that I'm Turani Turk from Timur's lineage, his court doc's says he used to differentiate between Indians (Hindus and Indian Muslims) as hindustani and he as Turani Turk, so it is crystal clear that they used to consider themselves as Turani Turk, They used to consider themselves as proud Turani, So the house they come was Timuri Gurkaniye and the ethnicity they used associate themselve was Turk Turani, ✌️.
@@aryapremlokre3150 First of all you should go and read Baburnama Akbarnaman Ani i akbari masri I Alamgir zafarnamam and Timurids court doc's, They used to consider themselves as Turani Turks 😅, Babur explicitly says in his memories, that he is very Proud to be a Chagatai Turk from Great Timur's lineage as proud Timurid, next he says everyone in Andijan are Chagatai Turks, and next to us are this filthy Mughals who are trying to dethrone me from my kingdom, and abuses the Mughals in his memories and same thing is done by Akbar and Aurangzeb as well, Timurids were entirely Perso-Turkic in Nature culture language traditions music art dance festival cuisine and customs, Aurangzeb writes letters to Ali Adil Shah of Bijapur in it he explicitly says that I'm Turani Turk from Timur's lineage, his court doc's says he used to differentiate between Indians (Hindus and Indian Muslims) as hindustani and he as Turani Turk, So it is crystal clear that they used to consider themselves as Turani Turk, They used to consider themselves as proud Turani, The royal house they comes from was Timuri Gurkaniye and the ethnicity they were from was Turk Turani of Turkestan ✌️.
First of all bro go and read Baburnama Akbarnaman Ani i akbari masri I Alamgir zafarnamam and Timurids court doc's, They used to consider themselves as Turani Turks 😅, Babur explicitly says in his memories, that he is very Proud to be a Chagatai Turk from Great Timur's lineage as proud Timurid, next he says everyone in Andijan are Chagatai Turks, and next to us are this filthy Mughals who are trying to dethrone me from my kingdom, and abuses the Mughals in his memories and same thing is done by Akbar and Aurangzeb as well, Timurids were entirely Perso-Turkic in Nature culture language traditions music art dance festival cuisine and customs, Aurangzeb writes letters to Ali Adil Shah of Bijapur in it he explicitly says that I'm Turani Turk from Timur's lineage, his court doc's says he used to differentiate between Indians (Hindus and Indian Muslims) as hindustani and he as Turani Turk, so it is crystal clear that they used to consider themselves as Turani Turk, They used to consider themselves as proud Turani, The royal house they comes from was Timuri Gurkaniye and the ethnicity they were from was Turk Turani of Turkestan, got it ✌️.
She showed the correct map. Just google world map and that is that map that will show. India (and Indians) may not agree with it but that doesn't change the fact
Found this channel recently. And I'm loving the videos. It's rare to find a genuine History-based channel nowadays, as everybody tries to judge History based on modern socio-political principles. Don't mind the hate comments, as those morons suppose age old rulers to function like they are living in the 21st century. Keep up the good work. Clearly deserves more subs and views
Mughals took Indian subcontinent to its pinnacle.. If Mughals were Non- Muslims, many in Indian subcontinent would still be worshipping them as Gods...😅
You have come with an interesting question that is frequently raised regarding Mughals. As a student of History, as far as I know, the Mughals were people of mixed Turko-Mongol origin who came from the Transoxiana region of Central Asia which was earlier ruled by the Chaghtai Khanate. When Central Asia was ruled by Genghiz Khan and later his sons, many Mongol tribes from Mongolia came and settled down in Transoxiana. Before Mongols, Turkic sultanates like the Seljuk and Ghaznavids had ruled over this region and their rule left behind a huge Turkic influence on the culture of this area. Over time, many of the Mongol tribes who settled in Transoxiana adopted Turkic culture and customs and even married with Turks. These also included the Barlas Tribe, from whom Timur is said to have descended. These tribes now started proudly calling themselves Turks and looked down on their Mongol origins ( even considering their Mongol bretheren as barbarians). That is why Timur also prefered to call himself a Turk. However, he idolized Genghiz Khan and followed his footsteps to unite Turks and Mongols of Central Asia to form a large empire like his idol. In order to acquire legitimacy, he married Saray Mulk Khanum, daughter of Qazan Khan, last Mongol ruler of Chaghtai Khan's lineage. From this marriage, he became the Guregen or Gurkan (son-in-law) of Chaghtai Khans and thus tried to trace linkage with Chaghtai and in turn Genghiz, father of Chaghtai. After Timur's death, his empire was divided among his sons and latter grandsons. However, like Timur, they called themselves Turks and disliked being Mongol.This notion was passed on to Babur through his father Umar Shaikh Mirza. Babur's own mother tongue was Chaghtai Turkic a Turko-Mongol language which developed under Chaghtai rule. Even though Babur's own mother was of Mongol origin, he prefered to call himself Timurid. Moreover, he was learned in Persian and thus highly influenced by Persian culture. At the end I would like to appreciate your work. This was an informative video. Keep going and make more of such videos. I would suggest Nanda empire, Kabul Shahi and Hindu Shahi dynasties as topics. Wish you a good day
In fact, most Indians are not indigenous to India, they are of Aryan descent. And the Aryans came from Central Asia where the Mughals came from. The religion brought by the Aryans is now known as Hinduism.
Mughals did '' Ghanta '' If Mughals had the money, engineering, expertise why didn't they build a single of these monuments in the middle east where they came from???India has pre-Islamic thousands of examples of highest architecture, money n expertise. Kailash Temple, Hampi, Sun temple, Konark ,100s of forts of Rajasthan, Meenakshi temple, Ai hole , Nalanda University etc.. India used to produce 30% of world GDP (0-1000 AD) Have u ever heard of beggars been looted? Only wealthy people get looted India had wealth, engineering n expertise so poor Islamic invaders ,Portugues ,Dutch ,French n lastly Britishers came to loot Money was of Hindus Engineering was of Hindus Expertise was of Hindus Mughal's contribution in building those was saying " Build it "
U see brihadareswara temple in tamil nadu, Ankor wat in Combodia. Both are massive structures built before mughals. Brihadareswara temple built by Cholas during 8th century is 66 metre tall. On top of it there is granite stone of 80 tonnes. Angor Wat is a Hindu temple built by tamil king Surya Varman during 11th century. This is enough to prove that Hindus knew how to build big structures much before mughals. I want to ask u a question. Why muslims didn't build big structures outside India? Opinion among people is that Taj Mahal, Qutab minar were originally built by Rajput kings. They were modified to islamic structures by muslim invaders. U can see a hindu temple in the same premises where qutab minar stands. A carving of Hindu god ganapathy is also seen in the temple.
Ellora caves, Ajanta caves and thousands of others. One cannot compete with Hindu, Buddhist and jain architecture, basically the true Indian architecture.
Odisha king Gajpati Pratap rudra dev written in his book about fire crackers like chandr jyoti bana,chamara Bana and so on before 17 years arrival of Babur. In battle of Odisa and bijaynagar,, krishna dev ray recruited Portuguese warriors who used gunpowder also. But we are told Babur brought gun powder to India.
@@Deshprem25. There was gun powder in China before the arrival of Mughals. Copied from internet// Ancient Indians used Saltpetre (Agnichurna), the major constituent of gunpowder, to make firecrackers (ulkah) on Diwali. “Gunpowder originated in Ancient India
@@Deshprem25. Those kingdoms near to northwest region of Indian subcontinent controlled trade routes to central asian countries, middle east, europe. I think they were able to put the north Indian kingdoms under political pressure. This might be the reason how they conquered north Indian provinces. After 15th century India started trade to europe with the help of Portugese. This affected the Mughals. Islamic dynasties is in decline since 17th century right ?? Some of them like Nizam of Hyderabad survived with the support of British.
@Jikkumaster china was,china is and china will always be a copy cat country. China used to copy India and now copying Amerika. We India always focus on amendments, correction. Whenever a terrible battle happen,,, dangerous weapons are left or destroyed. We Indians Hindu kings fought with rules. Death is acceptable rather than breaking rules of war. What ever novels, scriptures, are available now. Only less than 1 % of total are available. More than 99% Hindu scriptures are destroyed by Anti Hindu rulers like musalman rulers buring Nalanda University and Christian rulers like Portuguese, Dutch. Some Christians like German, French utilised our Hindu scriptures. But Britishers disconnected the connection between Hindu and Hindu scriptures. By fake, false propaganda.by imposing English education,by destroying Gurukul system.
Timur was not Tatari. Tartars are tatari. Timur was Turkic. Tartars and Turkic are different ethnic groups which are somewhat loosely related like Mongols and Turkic are loosely related.
Barlas tribe originally from Mongolia with lot of military experience and physical strength coupled with artillery gave them superior tactical and strategies against opponents.
@@majidbineshgar7156 now how on earth I am a Punjabi pakistan call myself mughal? suggest me some other good candidate so I can claim that ancestry and say that I ruled India
NICE ONE: Pakistanis till 1960s - considered Mughals as their ancestors Pakistanis till 2000s - considered Persians as their ancestors Pakistanis till 2020s - considered Arabs as their ancestors Pakistanis in 2050 - will consider Chinese as their ancestors
Bhai here is one channel that celebrates their Panjabi identity and regional identity phir bhi yeh joke. Yeah the average Pakistani is Jewish in religion, lives in stolen land and appropriates our culture. But that doesn't mean they consider them their father. Make better more nuanced jokes instead of copy/paste jokes.
People are talking about wrong India map used at 0:22. While using Google Map or Apple Map outside India region, they didn’t show disputed territory within India. We are used to see Google Map while being in India, they show us full map. Google & Apple show map according to where you live and your government approves.
@anasqureshi644 Mughals and Islam are parasites to Hindu lands, eating up its wealth while expanding their own population. Without the Marathas, the Mughals were nobody. The maratha confederacy did not want to disturb the set governance in the North, therefore it allowed the Mughal to hold Delhi minus the Hindu killing. Even in 1857, the Bahadur Shah was a titular head, the power rested with tatya tope and other major maratha military commanders.
@@anasqureshi644 sacrifice ?? zafar bahadur was not a king at all he was kept alive on british money after he tried to beech mei kooding with freedom warriors of 1857 nobody liked him
The glorification of "conquerors!" in this video is so sad! These invaders came in and caused utter mayhem, yes they became the victors and therefore wrote the history. One should reflect upon the notion of being the victor and what utter chaos is left in the path to conquering, it seems that this is all mixed in with ideological supremacy and none if it is questioned in certain sections of society, perhaps because the self reflection will reveal the lies and echo chambers that certain people live in.
@@mohamadashraf6364 Shahjahan cut hands of all the workers who build Taj Mahal. A lot of slavery was involved in construction of those monuments. Also let's not forget so many Ancient temples were destroyed by Mughals which were at that point standing tall for millenias now. Maratha-Mughal War was the bloodiest war in Indian History which started with Mughal invading Deccan. Go and learn of Mughals vis-a-vis Indian Empires especially Ancient ones
@ wah rah godse oar Goeble ki santaan . India ko unite kiya muslims na . Agar millions mara hota , tum log aaj 80 percent nahi hota. Oar for ur information i have studied indian history for 15 years. Sona ki chidiya hindustan ko hum muslims na banaya. Enghlish ko hum na maar baghya. Sanghee sala were licking shoes of enghlish. Hedgewar etc enghlish ka supporters tha.
@@imaXenoX gdp jaati hi hea down china progressed fast at that time other people were also developing infact when akbar was the king gdp was 18 percent and at the end of auregzeb reign it wa 28 percent something, you need to read first this is surely the gyan of whatsapp 😂.
So, cultural amnesia is not just a Pakistani cultural trait 👏 Punjabis and Sindhis naming thier rockets after Uzbek conquerers who raped and killed their ancestors. What a sorry thing to see ‼️
This was my first video on your channel and it's a good one. I always had a greater interest in Babur than the rest of the Mughal dynasty because Babur was the original outsider who came and settled in this subcontinent. Going by some old miniature portraits, he had a distinctive Mongolic look. As for you, I first took you to be North Indian because I first heard your name as Nisha rather than Meesha. Goes on to show that all of the northern part of the subcontinent has approximately the same gene pool. I've also been trying to figure out why RUclips recommended your channel to me, and can think of three reasons: I watch Syed Muzammil Shah's channel for a fair while, I have an abiding interest in history and I also have a cultural curiosity about Pakistan, which is why I have several long term good friends there (and by long term I mean over a decade as of now).
I hate whenever Muhammad Bobur is called Mongul. His grand, grand fathers had fought against the Monguls till their rulership vained. Bobur is from Fergana Valley from Movorounnahr (Modern Day Uzbekistan), which is where I am from. Yes, some Monguls mixed with the our turkiy people, but they are minority. In fact, Babur had to leave his rulership, later on ending up in India, was because he couldn't fight against the his main enemy,which is ShayboniKhan, as a very young Ruler.
Informative video. A small feedback is to edit your videos more crisply. The pauses should be edited out. And you should look into the camera, not your script.
tajmahal red fort n qutab minar was not built by mughal all existed before them..qutab minar was vishnu stambh was made before islam came to ind 1500yrs made by varah mihir
Mughals were efficient rulers. Those days conquest was considered honorable and thing that warriors did for their people. Comparing people of those days with today's standards is nonsensical. Now we rin democracy. Those days it was putting ur life on line and winning land
@@gouthamkrishnan6718 they didn't tax people to starvation. My own ancestors had control of princely states and they opposed the British to the point where they didn't let a penny escape from the land into the hands of the British. There was a major difference. Kindly correct yourself.
@@floe61 In many regions native rulers were worst.The problem with many hindu rulers is they believed in birth based caste system and had made laws according to the castes of the people.In place where I come from which was always ruled by hindu kings throughout history,different caste groups had different punishment for crimes.
This was a fun spin on the stupid and cruel Mughal invaders who raped India's women and converted them to Islam, who now shout praise for the Baburs and Akbars, another funny twist
Rapes and conversion were happening around the world though babur is no saint nor akbar is in terms of demeaning women but it was happening around the world it was mostly Indians who didn't do it ❤ that's our proud heritage.
Its not Chagatai turkish, its Chagatai Turkic. Turkish are the people who live in anatolia the present day turkey, Turkish people are turkic but Turkic people are not all turkish. The chagatai people were much more related to the mongols in terms of ancestral and genetics than the modern modern day Turkish people who now look either European or arab due to assimilation of the native population of anatolia into the turkish culture. While the chagatai turkic looked more mongol much like today's present day people of Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan
I'm pretty amazed at barbarians being glorified as civilized people myself. It's crazy how people evolve to almost have this strange Stockholm Syndrome.
It's not hyper nationalist but rather radical in Pakistan use reclaiming Mughal empire in their Gazwa doesn't know that Mughals were never Pakistani in the first place. We have to tell them to stop this gzwa dream and live peacefully in India instead of trying to reinvade us to form moghuls
Babar hated the label Moghul! He admitted that his great great grandfather was Ghenghizkhan. From father side he claimed Taimur ! Babar thought Turkish culture was lot refined and Mughals primitive! Read Baburnama !
Thanks for shedding light on this issue. Actually, what Babur called Moghols were the people of the domains of his uncles. He thought his uncles were less educated then him, and did not appreciate poetry. According to him, they were following the military structure set by Chengiz blindly. He appreciates their surgical skills when they fixed him up after a battle. I think he referred to people to the north and east of Farghana as Moghols. Most likely it was a derogatory term at the time.
Hello! from India (south india) Nice short video explaining origins of mughals. I had literally so much confusion regarding babars lineage. In south india, we had great native kingdom states seperate from those of north indian sultanates, south indian kingdoms were strong and successful in fending off invasion unlike conqured north rajput kindgoms. One intresting ancedote i want to mention is in 'Baburnama' babur himself mentioned answer to the question pondering that who was the most powerful king in india in his era? He answered it was a south indian emperor 'Shri Krishna devaraya' Emperor of Vijayanagara Empire ( lord ruling all of south india) with 1 million strong Imperial army in whole of sub continent and babur admited outrightly in his autobiography in an event, if at all he were to wage a war against hime he would be toast!!
Baburnama talks in detail about Babur's exploration of his sexuality and his love for one of his foot soldier!! This is a fascinating thing- to know that Mughals did not see homosexuality as taboo and eunuchs held various ministers in the Mughal court- atleast until Aurangzeb.
Because of their nomadic central asian culture They were muslim but their root culture was central asian barbarians ( muslim barbarianism with ultra pro central asia barbarism ) Central asian culture has common homosexuality even forced homosexuality Like among pastun bachabazi is common ( male teenagers abused of forced homosexuality)
Timur called himself Gurkani, meaning son-in-law, because his ancestors married into the line of descendants of Chinggiz Khan, and he wanted to present himself as the inheritor of Chinggiz's / Mongol power.
I wouldn't say "great" rulers. Yes by power, they had power but cruel... Babur like Aurangzeb, his father, etc... destroyed many temples and infact he even wrote that in his journal.. I would say he distorted the culture of this country rather than enhancing it
They were foreign invaders who occupied India amd enforced their culture and language on native Indians. Only the converted people of subcontinent who were forced to accept their culture sees them as Indians.
You have a wonderful voice for this line of work. I have a suggestion for content - tell people about Babarnama. I don’t mean read it to them, but you can tell what he writes in your words adding any related context and history from that time. I have read babanama myself and found it riveting. Good luck to your channel!
Do you believe that the established imperials like the loss of the British Emire?As Winston Churchill is reported to say” I have not become the Kings Minister to preside over the dissolution of his Emire” when India was to be granted Independence.He would squirm to see the developments in India and its growth compared to UK.
Chagathai Turkic*, not Chagathai Turkish. Turkish refers to the people from modern day Turkey who speak the Turkish language. Turkic refers to the broader cultural and linguistic identity of all Turkic peoples (which include Turkish, Kazakh, Uzbek, Tatar peoples, etc.). This distinction and choice of words is really important. I think every time you say the word "Turkish" in this video, you mean "Turkic".
Mughals ruled almost south Asia India till Kanyakumari Tamil Nadu under Hazrat Aurangzeb in 1694 madurai Nayak dynasty queen Rani mangammal accepted Mughal suzerainty under Hazrat Aurangzeb that time Aurangzeb's Empire expanded up to Kanyakumari in 4 million KM
Im Chagatai MUGHAL from Pakistan The Barlas Mongols tribe migrate from Mongolia 🇲🇳 to central Asia Later they adopted Turkic Persian Culture We Chagatai Mongols & Barlas Mongols became Turkcized-Mongols Later these Turkcized-Mongols called as Mughals conquered Indians 🇮🇳🇵🇰
There is nothing called as Turko-Mongol btw my overwhelmingly confused bhai i have told you many times, The term "Turko-Mongol" was not used contemporaneously by the people in question. It is a modern historiographical construct developed by scholars to describe the political, military, and cultural amalgamation between Turkic and Mongol societies during the medieval period. The Mongols, under Genghis Khan and his successors, brought together various nomadic groups, including Turkic tribes, and their conquests spread across lands traditionally inhabited by Turkic peoples, This term was introduced by morden historians and scholars, According to them Turko-Mongol refers to the cultural, linguistic, and military fusion that resulted from the interaction of Turkic and Mongol peoples, especially after the rise of the Mongol Empire in the 13th century. But it was not a term used during the medieval period, The peoples of the Mongol Empire or their Turkic counterparts did not identify themselves under a collective “Turko-Mongol” identity. Rather, they saw themselves as Mongols, Turks, or by specific tribal affiliations like Kipchak oghuz karluk etc. Timurids were totally different from the borderly Mongols of Chagatai Khanate, Cuz the Turkic population within the Khanate was generally referred as Chagatai Turks cuz of their ethno linguistics factor, While the Mongols within the Khanate and from borders retain there identity as Moughal, At the time of Timur the Barlas tribe which is enlisted in the initial mongol conquests, Was totally Turkic in nature culture language traditions music art dance festival cuisine custom, So they weren't looking themselves as Mongols but the Turks, But at the time of Timur and other Timurids, Timurid/Chagatai Turk Tribes were one of the largest Turkic tribes in the region, And every Timurid ruler used to have some serious hatred towards Mughals or Mongols as they mentioned them as robbers thief and uncivilized people in central Asian in their own writings, So the Timurids were paternaly Turks had nothing to do with Mughals or Mongols, So, these groups did not consider themselves to be a fusion in the way modern historians use the term Turko-Mongol. They saw themselves as either Mongols or Turks, depending on their ruling class, language, and cultural practices, So the best way to identify them according to their own perspective will be just Turks and not Turko-Mongols, You pakzis are totally absurd, with your identity, That's make my day special pakzi 😂🤭😁✌️.
@@theproductionz 🤣🤣🤣 You were forefathers were parasites, paupers thrown out of their homeland or converted. The traits of begging are exhibiting themselves to this day...🤣🤣
Most kingdoms plundered nations and oppressed people. Within each kingdom, there were a few just rules. So, we Indians must stop associating the barbaric acts of just handpicked regimes and conflating it with muslims altogether. The truth is any ruler who is not just only serves his self interests and not God.
The promblem is the Muslims call this invadersxthere ancestors and just bcs they are ashamed there ancestors were I dol worshippers and call this people hero that's the problem and andcthere are many other problem too
Maybe I missed it but then how did the name Mughals got stuck? Even in non-Indian history books, they call it the Mughal Empire. Great work Misha. Thank you for informative videos
Hi Misha, well researched and well presented. Nice to find a history buff😊 You are the first young person who has impressed me in this subject. Well-done 🎉
When the Mongols became Muslims, they began to be called Turks. Babur probably did not want to identify as a Mongol for religious reasons. But although they were assimilated over time, Genghis' lineage brought about the Timurid and Mughal empires.
Whether it is north indian, bangladeshi or pakistani they are indo aryans and should have formed a hindustani country. We south indians are diffrent having diffrent culture, language, appearance, ethinicity 'Dravida nadu' should be formed. We are dravidians. Dravida nadu and hindustani is rightful partition of india not pakistan.
The only reason why lots of people hating mughals nowadays is because their religion. Now, somebody will come against this saying that the British were Christian, but they are hated. But, apart from other dynasties which settled here British empire was obviously a foreign nation coming from far away by sea and conquered the land. Imagine this Babur guy converted to Hinduism and made this empire. You will see 90% of hindutva channels supporting that hindu mughal empire. There is an opposite side for this. The hindu Maratha empire is often glorified, even though they've committed atrocities and done brutal conquests in indian subcontinent. Only because they are hindu. So, what I want to say is that every empire, whether Maurya, gupta, Delhi sultanate or mughals or Marathas has commited atrocities and wars. there literally no freedom, equality, democracy or any modern values which makes us humans back then. Stop glorying old empires and be happy of the modern constitutional Democratic republic which guarantees(At least they guarantees!) us human Rights, freedom, equality and justice. If the current government has faults, it's our duty to correct them as citizens. Be modern. Embrace modern values. Stop living in 'good old days' daydream.
Never knew pakistanis would have pretty good historians. Lovely to watch you always. Also put your attention on ivc and vedic history and come out of just islamic era history of subcontinet
My question to the video maker silly girl is, “Prove that Indians would have tourists without the creatures of the Mughals and other Muslim”. Have a little bit shame at least although, I don’t expect that.
Madam,Batur was a muslim warlord from Uzbekistan. India's wealth,part of which was in control of another muslim afghan warlord attracted him. And he launched an invasion to remove muslim afghan warlord.
There is a specific paragraph mentioned about this that i read in NCERT class 7 history textbook, detailing how the "mughals" who claimed to be decendants of chinggis xhaan (genghis khan) hated being called "mughal", i think it is still probably there but after NEP maybe removed? anyways it was something interesting to delve into.
You are right. Babur and his descendants before him were Turks and disassociated themselves from Mongols. People in India didn't differentiate much between Mongols and Turks from that region maybe because Taimoor was also a descendent of Chughtai khan from his meternal side. So yes they were Turks and had mongol wives time to time because Babar inherited an empire from Taimoor and Taimoor's grand father married grand daughter of Ghengis Khan and had an alliance with one of the Mongol forces. It's natural that their cultures would have been mixed also by living together especially as an empire but they were not Mongols so it's obvious they would have never called themselves "Mughals".
While Timurid tribes were mostly Turkic, Babur himself was half-mongol as his mother was mongol. Yes in the Baburnama he clearly identified himself as Timurid Turk
Yes, you are right, I am from Andijan where Bobur was born in. Those people were mainly Turks, yes of course they have some mongol minority, but that mongol minority also got turkified already. Today we are colled Uzbeks, Kazaks, Turkmens,Karakalpaks and so on, But we are Turks in fact.
Yes, his mother was Mongol but the thing is in old times people didn't associate their leanage from their mothers and still don't. The culture and religion of the father and his tribe always determined the identity of the child.
@ wow, can’t believe you are from the same place as Babur. I am curious in what ways the Timurids were different from the Ozbeks that Babur mentioned in his Baburnama, who drove him out of Samarkand. Was it just a matter of different tribal allegiance or there were substantial cultural differences
@@beingxrehan No that's not true. The lineage from mother was also considered important, so that they can say that they are sons of honored women. Yes, name of women was not attached with children, but lineage was many times put in documentation.
@@aub3365 Of course it's important. But the caste or family name was carried through Father's line.
Mughals used to call themselves Gurkan, meaning Son in law in Chagatai language.
Yeah mainly because Taimoor's grand father was son in law of Chagatai Han.
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Actually it is Guktha
Don’t forget Chengiz Khan, Kubla khan, Buta Khan & Halagu and Il khans. Most Mongols converted to Islam and married Central Asian Turks.
Kazakh, Iighurs etc although speak Turkic languages are now mixed with Mongold. Khan is popular name in lands controlled by Mongols. Original Turks like the Seljuks and Ottomans moved to Anatolia which is present day Turkey. and introduced Turkish language there.
Beg, zMustafa, Pasha,Chagtai indicate part Turkic ancestry,
Various peoples like Hunas, Sskas, Parthians, Kushans entered Indian subcontinent in preislamic time gave rise to Rajputs tribes. Initially they adopted Buddhism & Hinduism. Later many became Muslims and Sikhs.
Chenghiz Khan was not a muslim.
@@RoyFJ65no,but he did allow multiple religions to exist in his empire,like Islam, Buddhism etc.
Lol Arabs and Turks have Genghis Khan DNA. They are also part of the "1 out 4" DNA of Genghis khan. They were so scared of him that they stayed away from Gengish Khan and then later stole Khan!
People till now think Khan is a Muslim surname but its Mongol word meaning Leader!
Dilhs?
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But Babur was ethnically a Mughal/Mongol. Like you said, he claimed descent from Timur, and Timur claimed descent from Chengiz Khan, the ultimate Mughal. He might not have called his empire the Mughal Empire, but he was Mughal nonetheless.
Timur had mongol ancestry but was ethnically more Turkic
Being related to someone and being identifying ethnicly are two totally different things, Timurids being related to Changis but they were completely Turkic by ethnicity, They were Perso-Turkic in nature culture language traditions music art dance festival cuisine custom, And they used to consider themselves as proud Turani Turks from Timur's lineage, as they mentioned in their own writings, That's it ✌️.
@@RajaRam_electrician I see what you're saying. You're saying though I may have Indian ancestry, and may even look Indian, the fact that I now live in England and identify with the English culturally, I am now ethnically English, not Indian. And in the same way, Babur was ethnically Turkic even if his ancestry was Mongol. Understood.
@@stevesmith4901you’re culturally English not ethnically. Ethnicity is genetically based.
He has Mongol blood nonetheless, its like modern day Pakistanis who disassociate themselves from the IVC & Vedic people but they are related to both.
Yep 👍
its the indian who says pakistani are not related to vedic people which they are more than the indian lol
@@superpekka772 saar Turkish blood saar 😂 Erdogan saar 😁
@@Albetroz1415literally no one does this.
@@stellalunas499 you would be surprised if you found out...They take pride in the fact that their ancestors were taken as slaves and forced to convert after having to pay approximately a 50% land tax.
"Mughal" is actually persian word for Mongols. Those mongol-turks who got persianised culturally started looking down upon their original Mongol lineage and culture.
Nonsense. They never identified themselves as Mongols or Mughals. They only identified the Royal family as "Timurids" and that's about it.
@@AliSidTex You words are non sense, Mughals were related to Mongols but they were majorly Turkic, They were such fools who can't appreciate their own culture
@@theresponsibleuser90 you need to learn the difference between identity and relations. Just because you might be related to a Mongol does not mean you identity as a Mongol. And there is no history of Mughals them calling themselves Mughal or Mongols. That was an identity completely created by the British to foreignize those they were trying remove from the subcontinent.
Mughal unidentified themselves as hindustanis /sulthanate of hindusthan. The term mughal was given by colonial historians and still the fight against mughal name is going on
@@AliSidTexyeah bro, they were persionised turco-mongols, persian was their court language not any turkic language, they give importance to persian culture. After coming to south asia they were indianised as well marriages with indian princess, having hindu rituals in marriages, indians in the courts, hindustani songs, hindustani language
Basically mughals were turco mongols who was persianised later living and slowly adopting a South Asian culture/identity
Babur and mughal empire was never indian they were central asians who promoted persian language and culture later imposed on india
If they imposed Persian language we may speak Persian as Afghanistani are speaking Persian the Persian language was only the court language
there were no such thing as india back then uneducated,,,there were 18 different countries or kingdoms
Your overlords Brahmins are Iranians too. Ditch them first.
So, why do they speak sanskrit then?@@hawkingdawking4572
@@hawkingdawking4572 Idiot brahmins are not iranians.They are descendents of Indus valley civilization people who were in earth much before iranians even born,idiot.
Mughals paid taxes to Marathas.
They came under the Maratha protectorate until 1802 and backstabbed them in the Second Anglo-Maratha War.
It was the way round Mughal were way more powerful than Marathas in majority of their history, May Allah bless the descendants of Mughals, they highly respected not only India but the rest of the world
@@abdurahman90982 Marathas ruled Delhi for more years than the Mughals ruled Deccan.
Mughals pleaded the Afghans to save them from the Marathas.
@@abdurahman90982 Lol only paxtanis think their opinions matter. Mughals are spitted upon by most Indians and anyone who studies history with conscience knows they are like the East india company and would do the same.
@@shivrajgujar1😂😂what Afghans did with Martha 😂
Marataha looted north indian tanatani kings land and wife's haha 😂
@@shivrajgujar1what history book are reading please give me the name of the book ???😂😂😂 Mann when maratha capture Delhi ...they go for kabul and I hope u know what happed to them ,!! Ahmed shah abdali butchered all maratha ...which caused them not to loof back in Afghanistan ever ! And ..... Deccan me Aurangzeb approx 15 saal rha tha akele ! And no one dared to go against him ....one man dared to do so ...shivaji maharaj ! But guess what ....he only owns the Western Ghat. ..like kila of Pune ..... And after the death of Aurangzeb the Maratha empire expand .......usse phele sirf sirf ek chote se area pe raj krte the
Misha, you are right. We are not Mughals, but turkic people. Babur himself called his nation Turks in his book Baburname. Love to India from Uzbekistan.❤❤❤
How about a video on Gandhi? He was a true Muslim with a Hindu name
bro😂
he was one of yours pajeeet
He was a true hindu Even at his death time he say hey ram.how could you forget that and praise fake hindu savarkar.
You are talking about Nehru maybe?
😂😂😂😂😂
Taj mahal is a beautiful example of Indo-persian architecture , motifs like hindu temples and indian stone carving art with persian glass cutting art and stone engravement along with indian engineering technology of flood proofing
yeah
То время все Персы попали на рабство Иране управлали Шах Исмаил Азарбайджанец , Афганистан Бабур завоевал так что то время не может быть какие-то персидский что -либо.
Mughal adminstration was much better than British India and today's (India -Pakistan)
Mughal did not rule till mid 18th century. In fact, their rule practically ended with the death of Aurangzeb in 1707 A.D. After his death the Marathas ruled India. 18th century India belongs to the Maratha history. And they rule India till the third anglo-maratha war when they got defeated to British in 1818 A.D. 🙏🙏🙏
100% right. British took India from Maratha not from Mughals. It is unfortunate we Indians do not know the History.
1857 rebels declared Bahadur Shah Zafar as their sultan. Also that the main throne of India was in Delhi, agra. The place of Delhi in indian history is just like that of Constantinople in turkey. That's why the Temurids were last rulers of India.
@aub3365 For your information after the death of Aurangzeb, the Mughals were reduced only to Delhi and its surroundings areas and had become the puppet of the Marathas. And, during the free struggle of 1857 not all rebels declared Bhahadur Shah Zafar as their leader. Many rebels fought under Maratha Peshwa Nana Saheb, Rani of Jhansi, and Raja Kuwar Singh of Jagdishpur. In fact, Bahadur Shah Zafar was the one who betrayed the rebels of Delhi. He was playing on the both sides like a double agent just to be in the safe side.
@@soumyadas6958 It is only you who is saying that Bahadur Shah Zafer played on both sides. He only took pension from brits, which other royals also took. Brits exiled him, where he died in poor condition. Why? because he was the primary organizer of rebellion (rebellion failed because he wasn't experienced enough to lead guerilla wars). With regards to Marathas, they were experiences warriors, and they used mountainous areas to raid their enemies. Had they fought the brits, india would never have become a colony. They sided with Brits in 1799 against Tipu Sultan and most probably, they facilitated british invasion of india.
@aub3365 If your read history then you wouldn't have said that. Maratha fought 3 wars with the brits what is called anglo-maratha wars. And, Marathas were not only mountainous warriors, they also had the best cavalry of that time time that is why Maratha Empire was expanded from Attock (Pakistan) to Cuttack and Delhi to Tanjavur. Peshwa Bajirao I was regarded the best cavalry general of that time. Peshwa Balaji Bajirao, Raghunath Rao, Madhavrao I, Mahadji Scindia and other maratha generals has expanded the Maratha Empire. And, brits exiled Bahadur Shah Zafar because he was double crossing them and they lost trust on him. And, Tipu Sultan was not fighting for India's independence, he was just fighting for his own kingdom. That time Tipu was taking the support of the French and Ottoman Empire to fight against the brits. And, French also wanted to colonize India at that time. If Tipu was fighting for India's independence then he wouldn't took the support of other colonial powers of that time like the French and the Ottomans. Not only Marathas, the Nizam of Hyderabad had also supported the Brits against Tipu. And, for you kind information Tipu and his father Hyder Ali were never the legitimate ruler of Mysore. In fact, his father Hyder Ali deposed the then ruler of Mysore the Wadiyar king from the throne illegally and put him along with his family under house arrest which was continued by Tipu as well. The people of Mysore never expected Tipu and his father as their legitimate ruler. And, after the death of Tipu the Wadiyar dynasty was again restored to the throne by the Brits which was accepted by the Marathas and Nizam.
The buildings u mentioned here are all Indian architecture, Show me what did these barbarians build in their home lands
Haha very funny comment. Go search up architecture in Uzbekistan 😂
They came from Uzbekistan and brought that architecture with them. Indian architecture is different
@@jamalmushtaq😂
Yes also explain how mughal despots used to give gifts in lakhs to uzbekistan from India's money. . Shahjahan gave 6 lakh to uzbekistan when bengal awadh was facing extreme famine..
@@jamalmushtaq they took Indian artisans ….uzbegs , mongols lived in tents till recently
I was shocked when I first came to know that they called themselves gurkani and not mughal.😂😂, glad to know other people are also aware of these things.
@@aryapremlokre3150 They used to consider themselves as proud Turani Turks from Timur's lineage of Gurkani House, Every Timurid ruler has some serious hatred towards Mughals or Mongols as they mentioned in their own writings, Mughal is the misnomer, which was later constructed term by European colonial writer's for them, This so called Mughals were entirely Turks, and used to take great pride in it, as they mentioned themselve, That's it ✌️.
@RajaRam_electrician I don't they had any pride in being turkic , what they actually had pride about was being related to timur , apart from that they didn't have any pride or love for their turkic culture , that's why they adopted persian.
@@aryapremlokre3150 First of all go and read Baburnama Akbarnaman Ani i akbari masri I Alamgir zafarnamam and Timurids court doc's, They used to consider themselves as Turani Turks 😅, Babur explicitly says in his memories, that he is very Proud to be a Chagatai Turk from Great Timur's lineage as proud Timurid, next he says everyone in Andijan are Chagatai Turks, and next to us are this filthy Mughals who are trying to dethrone me from my kingdom, and abuses the Mughals in his memories and same thing is done by Akbar and Aurangzeb as well, Timurids were entirely Perso-Turkic in Nature culture language traditions music art dance festival cuisine and customs, Aurangzeb writes letters to Ali Adil Shah of Bijapur in it he explicitly says that I'm Turani Turk from Timur's lineage, his court doc's says he used to differentiate between Indians (Hindus and Indian Muslims) as hindustani and he as Turani Turk, so it is crystal clear that they used to consider themselves as Turani Turk, They used to consider themselves as proud Turani, So the house they come was Timuri Gurkaniye and the ethnicity they used associate themselve was Turk Turani, ✌️.
@@aryapremlokre3150 First of all you should go and read Baburnama Akbarnaman Ani i akbari masri I Alamgir zafarnamam and Timurids court doc's, They used to consider themselves as Turani Turks 😅, Babur explicitly says in his memories, that he is very Proud to be a Chagatai Turk from Great Timur's lineage as proud Timurid, next he says everyone in Andijan are Chagatai Turks, and next to us are this filthy Mughals who are trying to dethrone me from my kingdom, and abuses the Mughals in his memories and same thing is done by Akbar and Aurangzeb as well, Timurids were entirely Perso-Turkic in Nature culture language traditions music art dance festival cuisine and customs, Aurangzeb writes letters to Ali Adil Shah of Bijapur in it he explicitly says that I'm Turani Turk from Timur's lineage, his court doc's says he used to differentiate between Indians (Hindus and Indian Muslims) as hindustani and he as Turani Turk, So it is crystal clear that they used to consider themselves as Turani Turk, They used to consider themselves as proud Turani, The royal house they comes from was Timuri Gurkaniye and the ethnicity they were from was Turk Turani of Turkestan ✌️.
First of all bro go and read Baburnama Akbarnaman Ani i akbari masri I Alamgir zafarnamam and Timurids court doc's, They used to consider themselves as Turani Turks 😅, Babur explicitly says in his memories, that he is very Proud to be a Chagatai Turk from Great Timur's lineage as proud Timurid, next he says everyone in Andijan are Chagatai Turks, and next to us are this filthy Mughals who are trying to dethrone me from my kingdom, and abuses the Mughals in his memories and same thing is done by Akbar and Aurangzeb as well, Timurids were entirely Perso-Turkic in Nature culture language traditions music art dance festival cuisine and customs, Aurangzeb writes letters to Ali Adil Shah of Bijapur in it he explicitly says that I'm Turani Turk from Timur's lineage, his court doc's says he used to differentiate between Indians (Hindus and Indian Muslims) as hindustani and he as Turani Turk, so it is crystal clear that they used to consider themselves as Turani Turk, They used to consider themselves as proud Turani, The royal house they comes from was Timuri Gurkaniye and the ethnicity they were from was Turk Turani of Turkestan, got it ✌️.
0:22 WRONG MAP
Indian are always good at showing wrong maps to the world.
Isme kya wrong hai?
As a man from todays Uzbekistan I can say historically it is wrong map .
I am native turk from Andijan.
He's talking about India's map@@AbduvohidOdiljonov
Also Indians didn't come from Central Asia or anywhere, we are from Indian subcontinent itself. We are Aryans and moved from here to Central Asia.
tons of hindutva nationalists in the comments section lmao
Cry😂
Cope 😂
So what there are tons of woke liberals in the comment section spewing bullshit
@joyeetaghosh2209 no no that's freedom of speech, only when "bhakts" speak up in defence of dharma then it's a problem for them.
First you show the correct map of India
Which map?
She is Pakistani.
@@sunilsakpal6549 now it makes sense
She showed the correct map. Just google world map and that is that map that will show. India (and Indians) may not agree with it but that doesn't change the fact
Respect to you.
After watching Artgul Turkish drama. Pakistanis have new fever, call them s of Turkish 😂
I think you are not decedent of ram etc you are decedent of muslims
So, what's the rationale of your point on this video?
@@m.qudratullah5544
So you people seriously think that you are turkish or something?
@@Sanatan_Rashtra99 That's your issue to think about lol, we don't
If you don't save Indian mosque then don't cry for Bangladeshi temple!
Maturity is when you realise it's non sense to identify yourself with Mughals if you're from Iran, Pakistan or India
Mughals came as invasion we are indo aryans
Maturity is when you realize you are an absolute idiot!
@@Dheeraj-y4f Indians maximum have 20% steppe, so only part is descended from them
@@BasedDharmicEdits no, mughals are turco-mongols not indo europeans
@@Dheeraj-y4fturko mongols are people of steppe.
Found this channel recently. And I'm loving the videos. It's rare to find a genuine History-based channel nowadays, as everybody tries to judge History based on modern socio-political principles. Don't mind the hate comments, as those morons suppose age old rulers to function like they are living in the 21st century. Keep up the good work. Clearly deserves more subs and views
Mughals took Indian subcontinent to its pinnacle..
If Mughals were Non- Muslims, many in Indian subcontinent would still be worshipping them as Gods...😅
In ur dreams
@DiabloNemes its true
True...
Do pakistani worship gupta , mauryans? Why not?
@@arpitpatra Wtf... they are mostly muslims who don't worship humans or anything else...they are mostly monotheists.
You have come with an interesting question that is frequently raised regarding Mughals.
As a student of History, as far as I know, the Mughals were people of mixed Turko-Mongol origin who came from the Transoxiana region of Central Asia which was earlier ruled by the Chaghtai Khanate. When Central Asia was ruled by Genghiz Khan and later his sons, many Mongol tribes from Mongolia came and settled down in Transoxiana. Before Mongols, Turkic sultanates like the Seljuk and Ghaznavids had ruled over this region and their rule left behind a huge Turkic influence on the culture of this area. Over time, many of the Mongol tribes who settled in Transoxiana adopted Turkic culture and customs and even married with Turks. These also included the Barlas Tribe, from whom Timur is said to have descended. These tribes now started proudly calling themselves Turks and looked down on their Mongol origins ( even considering their Mongol bretheren as barbarians). That is why Timur also prefered to call himself a Turk. However, he idolized Genghiz Khan and followed his footsteps to unite Turks and Mongols of Central Asia to form a large empire like his idol. In order to acquire legitimacy, he married Saray Mulk Khanum, daughter of Qazan Khan, last Mongol ruler of Chaghtai Khan's lineage.
From this marriage, he became the Guregen or Gurkan (son-in-law) of Chaghtai Khans and thus tried to trace linkage with Chaghtai and in turn Genghiz, father of Chaghtai. After Timur's death, his empire was divided among his sons and latter grandsons. However, like Timur, they called themselves Turks and disliked being Mongol.This notion was passed on to Babur through his father Umar Shaikh Mirza. Babur's own mother tongue was Chaghtai Turkic a Turko-Mongol language which developed under Chaghtai rule. Even though Babur's own mother was of Mongol origin, he prefered to call himself Timurid. Moreover, he was learned in Persian and thus highly influenced by Persian culture.
At the end I would like to appreciate your work. This was an informative video. Keep going and make more of such videos. I would suggest Nanda empire, Kabul Shahi and Hindu Shahi dynasties as topics.
Wish you a good day
Thank you for this comment, it was a good brief
@@kanakpratapsingh8466 Thank you for the complement 🙏. It is delightful to know that it was helpful.
In fact, most Indians are not indigenous to India, they are of Aryan descent. And the Aryans came from Central Asia where the Mughals came from. The religion brought by the Aryans is now known as Hinduism.
these 'indians' u mentioned also include pakistanis and bangladeshis.
@Dheeraj-y4f But Hindus consider Indians as their countrymen and Muslim Indians as outsiders.
Lol that theory has no evidence @@AhsanHabibCSTE
@@AhsanHabibCSTE islam religion is an outsiders religion not an Indian , pakistani or Bangladeshi.
@@dchannel6467 It is common for people to abandon history when it goes against them.
Lady....Indian subcontinent
Erudite, well researched and succinctly and elegantly presented. Keep it up.
Interesting if you talk about his diary in his diary he talked about India and how he hate the food and the music of India
Yup! He also said Indian people were not beautiful and not cunning simple people
@@mayanksharma4651 he was true as far as looks go.
He mentions krishnadevaraya of vijayanagara as the greatest king of hindusthan
@@NerdsBane007Being dusky/brown skinned never makes u unattractive
There was no food or music in India to praise for. Mere boiled rice and monotonous single string instruments were not that great.
Mughals did '' Ghanta ''
If Mughals had the money, engineering, expertise why didn't they build a single of these monuments in the middle east where they came from???India has pre-Islamic thousands of examples of highest architecture, money n expertise. Kailash Temple, Hampi, Sun temple, Konark ,100s of forts of Rajasthan, Meenakshi temple, Ai hole , Nalanda University etc..
India used to produce 30% of world GDP (0-1000 AD)
Have u ever heard of beggars been looted?
Only wealthy people get looted
India had wealth, engineering n expertise so poor Islamic invaders ,Portugues ,Dutch ,French n lastly Britishers came to loot
Money was of Hindus
Engineering was of Hindus
Expertise was of Hindus
Mughal's contribution in building those was saying " Build it "
Mughals had a difference sense of architecture they were influenced by persian form
Ancestors of mughul is Great ghenghes khan😂😂😂😂
Misha, thank you for a well researched and informative presentation.
U see brihadareswara temple in tamil nadu, Ankor wat in Combodia. Both are massive structures built before mughals. Brihadareswara temple built by Cholas during 8th century is 66 metre tall. On top of it there is granite stone of 80 tonnes. Angor Wat is a Hindu temple built by tamil king Surya Varman during 11th century. This is enough to prove that Hindus knew how to build big structures much before mughals. I want to ask u a question. Why muslims didn't build big structures outside India?
Opinion among people is that Taj Mahal, Qutab minar were originally built by Rajput kings. They were modified to islamic structures by muslim invaders. U can see a hindu temple in the same premises where qutab minar stands. A carving of Hindu god ganapathy is also seen in the temple.
Ellora caves, Ajanta caves and thousands of others. One cannot compete with Hindu, Buddhist and jain architecture, basically the true Indian architecture.
Odisha king Gajpati Pratap rudra dev written in his book about fire crackers like chandr jyoti bana,chamara Bana and so on before 17 years arrival of Babur. In battle of Odisa and bijaynagar,, krishna dev ray recruited Portuguese warriors who used gunpowder also. But we are told Babur brought gun powder to India.
@@Deshprem25. There was gun powder in China before the arrival of Mughals.
Copied from internet//
Ancient Indians used Saltpetre (Agnichurna), the major constituent of gunpowder, to make firecrackers (ulkah) on Diwali. “Gunpowder originated in Ancient India
@@Deshprem25. Those kingdoms near to northwest region of Indian subcontinent controlled trade routes to central asian countries, middle east, europe. I think they were able to put the north Indian kingdoms under political pressure. This might be the reason how they conquered north Indian provinces. After 15th century India started trade to europe with the help of Portugese. This affected the Mughals. Islamic dynasties is in decline since 17th century right ?? Some of them like Nizam of Hyderabad survived with the support of British.
@Jikkumaster china was,china is and china will always be a copy cat country. China used to copy India and now copying Amerika. We India always focus on amendments, correction. Whenever a terrible battle happen,,, dangerous weapons are left or destroyed. We Indians Hindu kings fought with rules. Death is acceptable rather than breaking rules of war. What ever novels, scriptures, are available now. Only less than 1 % of total are available. More than 99% Hindu scriptures are destroyed by Anti Hindu rulers like musalman rulers buring Nalanda University and Christian rulers like Portuguese, Dutch. Some Christians like German, French utilised our Hindu scriptures. But Britishers disconnected the connection between Hindu and Hindu scriptures. By fake, false propaganda.by imposing English education,by destroying Gurukul system.
Timur was a tatari. Tatari and mongols were quite different but often used as synonyums in historic literature like Romans and Byzantinians.
Timur was not Tatari. Tartars are tatari. Timur was Turkic. Tartars and Turkic are different ethnic groups which are somewhat loosely related like Mongols and Turkic are loosely related.
Barlas tribe originally from Mongolia with lot of military experience and physical strength coupled with artillery gave them superior tactical and strategies against opponents.
Mughal name came from 'Mongol' and they were Qarluq Turks with Mongol mixture
Authentic Turkic people and Mongols have the same origin ( Altai )even their mythology and theology is the same .
@@majidbineshgar7156 now how on earth I am a Punjabi pakistan call myself mughal? suggest me some other good candidate so I can claim that ancestry and say that I ruled India
@@PK-se2jh It is up to your personal choice and above all your genetics and phenotype to determine your genuine ancestry .
NICE ONE:
Pakistanis till 1960s - considered Mughals as their ancestors
Pakistanis till 2000s - considered Persians as their ancestors
Pakistanis till 2020s - considered Arabs as their ancestors
Pakistanis in 2050 - will consider Chinese as their ancestors
dosent matter they are still indo aryans similiar to india and bangladesh
Bhai here is one channel that celebrates their Panjabi identity and regional identity phir bhi yeh joke.
Yeah the average Pakistani is Jewish in religion, lives in stolen land and appropriates our culture. But that doesn't mean they consider them their father.
Make better more nuanced jokes instead of copy/paste jokes.
Why do all BJP supporters love Pakistan
@sktarequehussain8620 why do you follow a Jewish religion and live on stolen land? The same reason bruh.
Randians don't know different ethnic groups have different ancestors in Pakistan.
Poor randian😢
People are talking about wrong India map used at 0:22.
While using Google Map or Apple Map outside India region, they didn’t show disputed territory within India. We are used to see Google Map while being in India, they show us full map.
Google & Apple show map according to where you live and your government approves.
The amount of wrong information you are putting out is ridiculous. Please do your research properly
Just completed reading 'Baburnama's english translation, and watching this.
Mughal vansh now called bhikari
😂😂😂
mughal vansh ended with sacrifice of bahadur shah zafar and his two sons
@anasqureshi644
Mughals and Islam are parasites to Hindu lands, eating up its wealth while expanding their own population.
Without the Marathas, the Mughals were nobody.
The maratha confederacy did not want to disturb the set governance in the North, therefore it allowed the Mughal to hold Delhi minus the Hindu killing.
Even in 1857, the Bahadur Shah was a titular head, the power rested with tatya tope and other major maratha military commanders.
@@anasqureshi644nope
@@anasqureshi644 sacrifice ??
zafar bahadur was not a king at all he was kept alive on british money after he tried to beech mei kooding with freedom warriors of 1857 nobody liked him
0:22 wrong map of our nation. Please take care next time, I can understand that it cannot change now.
While the map is incorrect politically, it is largely the reality today in terms of area we control.
@Tathagatchat that is true.
😂 cry prabhubagul
@@earthworma yes, if national map is sheared, it is ofcourse the matter that could brought tears into eyes.
Wow great point! Well explained! It is a partly a misnomer based on what outsiders called the empire.
The glorification of "conquerors!" in this video is so sad! These invaders came in and caused utter mayhem, yes they became the victors and therefore wrote the history. One should reflect upon the notion of being the victor and what utter chaos is left in the path to conquering, it seems that this is all mixed in with ideological supremacy and none if it is questioned in certain sections of society, perhaps because the self reflection will reveal the lies and echo chambers that certain people live in.
what destruction they brought . who built Taj mahal and lal qila , golwalker or coward savarkar
@@mohamadashraf6364 Shahjahan cut hands of all the workers who build Taj Mahal. A lot of slavery was involved in construction of those monuments. Also let's not forget so many Ancient temples were destroyed by Mughals which were at that point standing tall for millenias now. Maratha-Mughal War was the bloodiest war in Indian History which started with Mughal invading Deccan. Go and learn of Mughals vis-a-vis Indian Empires especially Ancient ones
read history kid , the GDP went from 33% of world to 25% and millions were massacred and forced to pay jizya and exploited
They aren't even Indian 😂
@ wah rah godse oar Goeble ki santaan . India ko unite kiya muslims na . Agar millions mara hota , tum log aaj 80 percent nahi hota. Oar for ur information i have studied indian history for 15 years. Sona ki chidiya hindustan ko hum muslims na banaya. Enghlish ko hum na maar baghya. Sanghee sala were licking shoes of enghlish. Hedgewar etc enghlish ka supporters tha.
@@imaXenoX gdp jaati hi hea down china progressed fast at that time other people were also developing infact when akbar was the king gdp was 18 percent and at the end of auregzeb reign it wa 28 percent something, you need to read first this is surely the gyan of whatsapp 😂.
Hi Mesha. You have explained it beautifully.
So, cultural amnesia is not just a Pakistani cultural trait 👏
Punjabis and Sindhis naming thier rockets after Uzbek conquerers who raped and killed their ancestors. What a sorry thing to see ‼️
@@Carsfirst_online Sindhis???
Exactly 😂, They were Chagatai Turks, who are today's Uzbeks, and this Punjabi are calling them their nazayaz bap.
@@farhanpathan2976 Pakistani Sindhis and punjabis are the largest portion of Pakistani population.
@@Carsfirst_online Yes! But Sindhis does not equal to Pakistanis, You know what Sindhis praise Raja Dahir and criticise Ibn Qasim.
The conquered one's always tries to imitate those who conquered them.
I am a pure Muslim Turkana Timuri & Turkana Baburi, Excellent work young lady. Keep up the excellent work.
The Mughals was just some Persianized Mongols/Turkic people they was just some colonizers like the British that once ruled over India
This was my first video on your channel and it's a good one. I always had a greater interest in Babur than the rest of the Mughal dynasty because Babur was the original outsider who came and settled in this subcontinent. Going by some old miniature portraits, he had a distinctive Mongolic look.
As for you, I first took you to be North Indian because I first heard your name as Nisha rather than Meesha. Goes on to show that all of the northern part of the subcontinent has approximately the same gene pool.
I've also been trying to figure out why RUclips recommended your channel to me, and can think of three reasons: I watch Syed Muzammil Shah's channel for a fair while, I have an abiding interest in history and I also have a cultural curiosity about Pakistan, which is why I have several long term good friends there (and by long term I mean over a decade as of now).
Timur was a mongol himself not tork
Excellent and informative video. Thank you Madam ji
YOU COME ACROSS AS A COCONUT COMPLETELY .
I hate whenever Muhammad Bobur is called Mongul. His grand, grand fathers had fought against the Monguls till their rulership vained. Bobur is from Fergana Valley from Movorounnahr (Modern Day Uzbekistan), which is where I am from. Yes, some Monguls mixed with the our turkiy people, but they are minority. In fact, Babur had to leave his rulership, later on ending up in India, was because he couldn't fight against the his main enemy,which is ShayboniKhan, as a very young Ruler.
Babur was a big snob.
that snob knows how to conqure
cry more
Like your overlords who considered you as filthy servant class a.k.a Shuudras?
All invaders were like that not only Babur.
he is , from native perspective
Informative video. A small feedback is to edit your videos more crisply. The pauses should be edited out. And you should look into the camera, not your script.
tajmahal red fort n qutab minar was not built by mughal all existed before them..qutab minar was vishnu stambh was made before islam came to ind 1500yrs made by varah mihir
Mughals were efficient rulers. Those days conquest was considered honorable and thing that warriors did for their people. Comparing people of those days with today's standards is nonsensical. Now we rin democracy. Those days it was putting ur life on line and winning land
Grey period of india in mughal times.
Dark grey in British rule .
Black rule after British.
The worst are the brown rulers after British.
Darkest period is Islamic history.....
u got no idea how it works
Nah mughal,british period was darkest period.Hindu rulers were also not that different.Atleast modern rulers work for people's needs
@@gouthamkrishnan6718 they didn't tax people to starvation. My own ancestors had control of princely states and they opposed the British to the point where they didn't let a penny escape from the land into the hands of the British. There was a major difference. Kindly correct yourself.
@@floe61 In many regions native rulers were worst.The problem with many hindu rulers is they believed in birth based caste system and had made laws according to the castes of the people.In place where I come from which was always ruled by hindu kings throughout history,different caste groups had different punishment for crimes.
wow..finally ...an interesting channel.
This was a fun spin on the stupid and cruel Mughal invaders who raped India's women and converted them to Islam, who now shout praise for the Baburs and Akbars, another funny twist
not agree with it doesn't change the fact...funny😂
Rapes and conversion were happening around the world though babur is no saint nor akbar is in terms of demeaning women but it was happening around the world it was mostly Indians who didn't do it ❤ that's our proud heritage.
Its not Chagatai turkish, its Chagatai Turkic. Turkish are the people who live in anatolia the present day turkey, Turkish people are turkic but Turkic people are not all turkish. The chagatai people were much more related to the mongols in terms of ancestral and genetics than the modern modern day Turkish people who now look either European or arab due to assimilation of the native population of anatolia into the turkish culture. While the chagatai turkic looked more mongol much like today's present day people of Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan
Wrong map of India shown ... Correct it
That's the reality
@@m.qudratullah5544 reality is, u r a hindu
Thanks for explaining this clearly, Tareekhi Tales
Wow hyper nationalist hindus seething in the comments over an empure that doesnt even exist anymore lol
I'm pretty amazed at barbarians being glorified as civilized people myself. It's crazy how people evolve to almost have this strange Stockholm Syndrome.
It's not hyper nationalist but rather radical in Pakistan use reclaiming Mughal empire in their Gazwa doesn't know that Mughals were never Pakistani in the first place. We have to tell them to stop this gzwa dream and live peacefully in India instead of trying to reinvade us to form moghuls
Cope 😂
Babar hated the label Moghul! He admitted that his great great grandfather was Ghenghizkhan. From father side he claimed Taimur ! Babar thought Turkish culture was lot refined and Mughals primitive! Read Baburnama !
Need "Historical Saga of Haider Ali and Tippu Sultan"
Fun Fact Haider Ali and Tippu Sultan were Punjabi Jats
@@rajashah1353 dosent matter as they were rapists and killers of innocents
@@rajashah1353 fun fact: tippu destroyed 40,000+ temples in southern india and even converted dead hindus and christains to islam (yeah dead)
Tippu sultan is killer of hindus and Cristians
we punjabi paksitani need new ancestry so we can claim that we ruled this and that. So sad we cant claim mughal Mongolian turkik ancestry
Thanks for shedding light on this issue. Actually, what Babur called Moghols were the people of the domains of his uncles. He thought his uncles were less educated then him, and did not appreciate poetry. According to him, they were following the military structure set by Chengiz blindly. He appreciates their surgical skills when they fixed him up after a battle. I think he referred to people to the north and east of Farghana as Moghols. Most likely it was a derogatory term at the time.
4:45 chagatai turkic*
Very impressive explanations
Make video on safavids❤
Hello! from India (south india) Nice short video explaining origins of mughals. I had literally so much confusion regarding babars lineage. In south india, we had great native kingdom states seperate from those of north indian sultanates, south indian kingdoms were strong and successful in fending off invasion unlike conqured north rajput kindgoms. One intresting ancedote i want to mention is in 'Baburnama' babur himself mentioned answer to the question pondering that who was the most powerful king in india in his era? He answered it was a south indian emperor 'Shri Krishna devaraya' Emperor of Vijayanagara Empire ( lord ruling all of south india) with 1 million strong Imperial army in whole of sub continent and babur admited outrightly in his autobiography in an event, if at all he were to wage a war against hime he would be toast!!
Baburnama talks in detail about Babur's exploration of his sexuality and his love for one of his foot soldier!! This is a fascinating thing- to know that Mughals did not see homosexuality as taboo and eunuchs held various ministers in the Mughal court- atleast until Aurangzeb.
its a taboo in islam?
Это то время противоречит закону Ясак военной трибунал.
@@Dheeraj-y4f actually those eunuchs were kids or young boys villagers and farmers who gets captured during battles and raids 😢😢😢
thats complete bullshit being homosexual literally had death penalties...
Because of their nomadic central asian culture
They were muslim but their root culture was central asian barbarians ( muslim barbarianism with ultra pro central asia barbarism )
Central asian culture has common homosexuality even forced homosexuality
Like among pastun bachabazi is common ( male teenagers abused of forced homosexuality)
Timur called himself Gurkani, meaning son-in-law, because his ancestors married into the line of descendants of Chinggiz Khan, and he wanted to present himself as the inheritor of Chinggiz's / Mongol power.
Whether you call them Timurids or Mughals, fact is they were great rulers and accepted India as their home and enhanced the culture of this country…
I wouldn't say "great" rulers. Yes by power, they had power but cruel... Babur like Aurangzeb, his father, etc... destroyed many temples and infact he even wrote that in his journal.. I would say he distorted the culture of this country rather than enhancing it
Only for muslims...hindus don't consider them them kings..they were invaders.....
no, they persianised india
😂😂😂
Never seen a tapeworm ever debate leaving a hosts intestine alone...
So is the Mughal and the Islamist...😂😂😂
They were foreign invaders who occupied India amd enforced their culture and language on native Indians.
Only the converted people of subcontinent who were forced to accept their culture sees them as Indians.
You have a wonderful voice for this line of work. I have a suggestion for content - tell people about Babarnama. I don’t mean read it to them, but you can tell what he writes in your words adding any related context and history from that time. I have read babanama myself and found it riveting.
Good luck to your channel!
Thank you, and yes I do plan on making more videos about that
Do you believe that the established imperials like the loss of the British Emire?As Winston Churchill is reported to say” I have not become the Kings Minister to preside over the dissolution of his Emire” when India was to be granted Independence.He would squirm to see the developments in India and its growth compared to UK.
Chagathai Turkic*, not Chagathai Turkish. Turkish refers to the people from modern day Turkey who speak the Turkish language. Turkic refers to the broader cultural and linguistic identity of all Turkic peoples (which include Turkish, Kazakh, Uzbek, Tatar peoples, etc.). This distinction and choice of words is really important. I think every time you say the word "Turkish" in this video, you mean "Turkic".
Oh you're right. My bad. I remember reading Turkic, but while narrating the video I made this mistake. Thanks will keep it in mind next time👍
just a little mistake - they are not 'TURKISH" they are 'TURKIC'
Good video! Presenter is beautiful and charming. Well scripted, subscribed.
Mughals ruled almost south Asia India till Kanyakumari Tamil Nadu under Hazrat Aurangzeb in 1694 madurai Nayak dynasty queen Rani mangammal accepted Mughal suzerainty under Hazrat Aurangzeb that time Aurangzeb's Empire expanded up to Kanyakumari in 4 million KM
Im Chagatai MUGHAL from Pakistan
The Barlas Mongols tribe migrate from Mongolia 🇲🇳 to central Asia
Later they adopted Turkic Persian Culture
We Chagatai Mongols & Barlas Mongols became Turkcized-Mongols
Later these Turkcized-Mongols called as Mughals conquered Indians 🇮🇳🇵🇰
What a joke, ur ancestors were peasants of Ghenghis Halagu. Don't even call urself Mongols. 😂
Now became bhikari.
😂😂😂
В Монголии живут ХАЛХА коренные жители они с могуламни не какой сходство между ними нет.😅😅😅😅
There is nothing called as Turko-Mongol btw my overwhelmingly confused bhai i have told you many times, The term "Turko-Mongol" was not used contemporaneously by the people in question. It is a modern historiographical construct developed by scholars to describe the political, military, and cultural amalgamation between Turkic and Mongol societies during the medieval period. The Mongols, under Genghis Khan and his successors, brought together various nomadic groups, including Turkic tribes, and their conquests spread across lands traditionally inhabited by Turkic peoples, This term was introduced by morden historians and scholars, According to them Turko-Mongol refers to the cultural, linguistic, and military fusion that resulted from the interaction of Turkic and Mongol peoples, especially after the rise of the Mongol Empire in the 13th century. But it was not a term used during the medieval period, The peoples of the Mongol Empire or their Turkic counterparts did not identify themselves under a collective “Turko-Mongol” identity. Rather, they saw themselves as Mongols, Turks, or by specific tribal affiliations like Kipchak oghuz karluk etc. Timurids were totally different from the borderly Mongols of Chagatai Khanate, Cuz the Turkic population within the Khanate was generally referred as Chagatai Turks cuz of their ethno linguistics factor, While the Mongols within the Khanate and from borders retain there identity as Moughal, At the time of Timur the Barlas tribe which is enlisted in the initial mongol conquests, Was totally Turkic in nature culture language traditions music art dance festival cuisine custom, So they weren't looking themselves as Mongols but the Turks, But at the time of Timur and other Timurids, Timurid/Chagatai Turk Tribes were one of the largest Turkic tribes in the region, And every Timurid ruler used to have some serious hatred towards Mughals or Mongols as they mentioned them as robbers thief and uncivilized people in central Asian in their own writings, So the Timurids were paternaly Turks had nothing to do with Mughals or Mongols, So, these groups did not consider themselves to be a fusion in the way modern historians use the term Turko-Mongol. They saw themselves as either Mongols or Turks, depending on their ruling class, language, and cultural practices, So the best way to identify them according to their own perspective will be just Turks and not Turko-Mongols, You pakzis are totally absurd, with your identity, That's make my day special pakzi 😂🤭😁✌️.
@@theproductionz
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You were forefathers were parasites, paupers thrown out of their homeland or converted.
The traits of begging are exhibiting themselves to this day...🤣🤣
Most kingdoms plundered nations and oppressed people. Within each kingdom, there were a few just rules. So, we Indians must stop associating the barbaric acts of just handpicked regimes and conflating it with muslims altogether. The truth is any ruler who is not just only serves his self interests and not God.
The promblem is the Muslims call this invadersxthere ancestors and just bcs they are ashamed there ancestors were I dol worshippers and call this people hero that's the problem and andcthere are many other problem too
Maybe I missed it but then how did the name Mughals got stuck? Even in non-Indian history books, they call it the Mughal Empire.
Great work Misha. Thank you for informative videos
Doesn't matter by what name they're being called, this empire gave birth to one the most based sultan of the subcontinent, Muhi al-Din Muhammad.
Dying of shock is a horrible thing to do and what Islam advocates is humane. I know people will start lying in response but suck it up.
Hi Misha, well researched and well presented. Nice to find a history buff😊 You are the first young person who has impressed me in this subject. Well-done 🎉
When the Mongols became Muslims, they began to be called Turks. Babur probably did not want to identify as a Mongol for religious reasons. But although they were assimilated over time, Genghis' lineage brought about the Timurid and Mughal empires.
Whether it is north indian, bangladeshi or pakistani they are indo aryans and should have formed a hindustani country.
We south indians are diffrent having diffrent culture, language, appearance, ethinicity 'Dravida nadu' should be formed. We are dravidians.
Dravida nadu and hindustani is rightful partition of india not pakistan.
My guess: They hated it because they were not Mongols
The only reason why lots of people hating mughals nowadays is because their religion. Now, somebody will come against this saying that the British were Christian, but they are hated. But, apart from other dynasties which settled here British empire was obviously a foreign nation coming from far away by sea and conquered the land.
Imagine this Babur guy converted to Hinduism and made this empire. You will see 90% of hindutva channels supporting that hindu mughal empire. There is an opposite side for this. The hindu Maratha empire is often glorified, even though they've committed atrocities and done brutal conquests in indian subcontinent. Only because they are hindu. So, what I want to say is that every empire, whether Maurya, gupta, Delhi sultanate or mughals or Marathas has commited atrocities and wars. there literally no freedom, equality, democracy or any modern values which makes us humans back then. Stop glorying old empires and be happy of the modern constitutional Democratic republic which guarantees(At least they guarantees!) us human Rights, freedom, equality and justice. If the current government has faults, it's our duty to correct them as citizens. Be modern. Embrace modern values. Stop living in 'good old days' daydream.
Please don't bark anything here.
Did he convert no
Babur wrote in his diary 'Mughal name is bad, even write it with gold its still bad'
Babur cannot be considered a jenghis descendant because he is from the female line..
Do more videos. Liked it for your simple language.
Never knew pakistanis would have pretty good historians. Lovely to watch you always. Also put your attention on ivc and vedic history and come out of just islamic era history of subcontinet
My question to the video maker silly girl is, “Prove that Indians would have tourists without the creatures of the Mughals and other Muslim”.
Have a little bit shame at least although, I don’t expect that.
She is Pakistani first of all and yes we would have 😂
@ You don’t have even toilets and how would have tourists without muslims shrines and creatures?
Madam,Batur was a muslim warlord from Uzbekistan.
India's wealth,part of which was in control of another muslim afghan warlord attracted him. And he launched an invasion to remove
muslim afghan warlord.
Nice articulation 😊
Babur was related to Emir Temur from his father's side and to Genghis Khan from his mother's side
У узбеков национальности считается по линиям отца не так как к евреев по линии мама.
There is a specific paragraph mentioned about this that i read in NCERT class 7 history textbook, detailing how the "mughals" who claimed to be decendants of chinggis xhaan (genghis khan) hated being called "mughal", i think it is still probably there but after NEP maybe removed? anyways it was something interesting to delve into.
You are right. Babur and his descendants before him were Turks and disassociated themselves from Mongols. People in India didn't differentiate much between Mongols and Turks from that region maybe because Taimoor was also a descendent of Chughtai khan from his meternal side. So yes they were Turks and had mongol wives time to time because Babar inherited an empire from Taimoor and Taimoor's grand father married grand daughter of Ghengis Khan and had an alliance with one of the Mongol forces. It's natural that their cultures would have been mixed also by living together especially as an empire but they were not Mongols so it's obvious they would have never called themselves "Mughals".
The cutest podcast on history so far
Very good video. But why didn't you completely edit it? There are few mistakes left in the video.