I have an incurable form of bone marrow cancer. My family don't understand why I am not upset and terrified by the prospect of death. I'm a bit surprised myself. I was very frightened of death when I was a child. Now, nearing 70, I am able to face most things. I'm not religious but I follow a spiritual path through life. I realised I had matured when my first reaction to the "bad news" was to be concerned how it would effect my family. I have worked with them to help them to accept this situation. I was delighted when a sibling and I had a little spat and she swore at me. At last, I thought< we're getting back to normal. Life goes on. I'm very busy finishing up my business, and can honestly say I'm having a whale of a time!
You live like a champion. Hopefully it's as painless as possible for you. You're moving people near and far and that is what we all ought to be doing -- extending our bliss and serenity. God speed, friend
I think if you fear death it is because you know deep down inside of you that you are not putting your full effort into your life, if you live your life waiting for things to happen to you then you might feel regrets when death comes for you. Death is inevitable and it can arrive anytime in your life whether your old or young, it is not within your control, what's in your control is your choices in your life. This is just my thoughts and some people might feel differently, I hope I did not offend anyone because that is not my intention.
Well I didn't expect these responses and am much moved by the good wishes. I have loved much in my life and feel that I learned how to be a human being. I have suffered much but it helped me to understand the suffering of others. When I was young I made many mistakes and learned much from them. I can honestly say that the hardest times, like when I looked after my mother who had dementia, taught me the most about what I was capable of in the way of faithful service to others. it helped me to get over my selfishness. I learned how to be happy. Yes, I have my regrets, but I did my best. I believe in a God of Love and that made sense of it all. May that Love, which is the highest power in this or any universe fill your lives and bring you the peace that passes human understanding. Happy Christmas to all and to all a Good Night!!!
nterviewer: I know that you say death is psychologically just as important as birth and like it is an integral part of life, but surely, it can’t be like birth if it is an end. Can it? Jung: Yes, if it is an end. And there we are not quite certain about this end because we know that there are these peculiar faculties of the psyche - that it isn’t entirely confined to space and time. You can have dreams or visions of the future. You can see around corners and such things. Only ignorants deny these facts. It’s quite evident that they do exist and have existed always. Now these facts show that the psyche - in part, at least - is not dependent on these confinements. And then what? When the psyche is not under that obligation to live in time and space alone - and obviously, it doesn’t - then to that extent, the psyche is not submitted to those laws and that means a practical continuation of life of a sort of psychical existence beyond time and space. Interviewer: Do you, yourself, believe that death is probably the end or do you believe…? Jung: Well, I can’t say. You see, the word “believe” is a difficult thing for me. I don’t “believe.” I must have a reason for a certain hypothesis. Either I know a thing; and when I KNOW it, I don’t need to believe it. I don’t allow myself, for instance, to believe a thing just for sake of believing it. I can’t believe it! But when there are sufficient reasons for a certain hypothesis, I shall accept these reasons naturally. I shall say “We have to recon with the possibility of so and so.” You know? Interviewer: Well, now you told us that we should regard death as being a goal and to stray away from it is to evade life and life’s purpose. What advice would you give to people in their later life to enable them to do this when most of them must, in fact, believe that death is the end of everything? Jung: Well, you see I have treated many old people and it’s quite interesting to watch what their conscious is doing with the fact that it is apparently threatened with the complete end. It disregards it. Life behaves as if it were going on and so I think it is better for old people to live on, to look forward to the next day as if he had to spend centuries and then he lives happily. But when he is afraid and he doesn’t look forward; he looks back. He petrifies. He gets stiff and he dies before his time, but when he’s living on, looking forward to the great adventure that is ahead, then he lives. And that is about what your conscious is intending to do. Of course it is quite obvious that we’re all going to die and this is the sad finale of everything, but nevertheless, there is something in us that doesn’t believe it, apparently, but this is merely a fact, a psychological fact. Doesn’t mean to me that it proves something. It is simply so. For instance, I may not know why we need salt, but we prefer to eat salt, too, because we feel better. And so when you think in a certain way, you may feel considerably better. And I think if you think along the lines of nature, then you think properly.
Here is a transcription for those who want one. (Click "Read more.") There might be some mistakes for which I apologise sincerely. Interviewer: I remember that you said that death is psychologically just as important as birth and like it, is an integral part of life. But surely it can't be like birth if it is an end, can it? Carl Jung: Yes, if it's an end. And there we are not quite certain about this end. Because you know there are these peculiar faculties of the psyche that isn't entirely confined to space and time. You can have dreams or visions of the future. You can see around corners and such things. Only ignorants deny these facts. It is evident that they do exist and have existed always. Now, these facts show that the psyche, in part at least, is not dependent upon these confinements. And then what? When the psyche is not under that obligation to live in time and space alone and obviously it doesn't, then to that extent the psyche is not submitted to those laws. And that means a practical continuation of life of a sort of psychical existence beyond time and space. Interviewer: Do you yourself believe that death is probably the end or do you believe ... Carl Jung: Well, I can't say... You see the word believe is a difficult thing for me. I don't believe. I must have a reason for a certain hypothesis. Either I know a thing and then I know it and I don't need to believe it. I don't allow myself, for instance, to believe a thing just for the sake of believing it. I can't believe it. But when there are sufficient reasons for a certain hypothesis I shall accept these reasons naturally and should say we have to reckon with the possibility of so and so, you know. Interviewer: Well now you have told us that we should regard death as being a goal. Carl Jung: Yes. Interviewer: ...and that to shrink away from it is to avoid life and life's purpose. Carl Jung: Yes. Interviewer: What advice would you give to people in their later life to enable them to do this when most of them must, in fact, believe that death is the end of everything? Carl Jung: Well, you see I have treated many old people and it's quite interesting to watch what their consciousness is doing with the fact that it is apparently threatened with the complete end. It disregards it. Life behaves as if it were going on. And so I think it is better for old people to live on, to look forward to the next day as if he had to spend centuries and then he lives properly. But when he is afraid and when he doesn't look forward when he looks back, he petrifies, he gets stiff and he dies before his time. But when he is living on looking forward to the great adventure that is ahead, then he lives. And that is about what their consciousness is intending to do. Of course, it is quite obvious that we are all going to die and this is the sad finale of everything, but never the less there is something in us that doesn't believe it, apparently. But this is merely a fact, a psychological fact. It doesn't mean to me that it proves something. It is simply so. For instance, I may not know why we need salt but we prefer to eat salt too because you feel better. And so when you think in a certain way you may feel considerably better. And I think that if you think along the lines of nature then you think properly.
@@TheRonBerg what the quote means. what does it mean to 'think along the lines of nature'? the word "nature" is so vague i have no idea what he is talking about, could you provide some explanation?
If you've ever read Memories, Dreams, Reflections you'll be able to see the phenomenal syncronisity between his dreams and at the same time patients, relatives, dying throughout his life. These experiences I think gave him the idea that consciousness isn't limited to time and space or the body.
Thank you, Robert. I take my example from the ancient Egyptians, who actually looked forward to death and prepared for this eventuality their whole lives through. Death, as an inevitability, shouldn't be feared...what's the point? It should be understood as a temporary juncture, or a gateway to new life. Further to this idea, should we not live this lifetime to the fullest, in anticipation of what is to come? In my view, a precedent is set by how this lifetime is lived and this is carried forward to the next cycle or phase of existence. The thing is that millions of people are fearful of death due to a basic misunderstanding of which role death plays in the never-ending cycle of existence, more's the pity. Have a great day!
Thank you for your kind reply Nadia. I to understand the ancient Egyptians and their views on living. I think the Question has to be asked why so many have lost the understanding of, I and Self. After all if you know where you've been, you know where you are, and ultimately you'll Know where you'll arrive. Nadia I found Great understandings in these modern times, from the works of C G Jung. May I recommend a book. C.G.Jung the earth has a soul, it certainly helped keep the shackles away from me. Wishing you all the very best of perfect days.
Robert Hiorns They say that knowing oneself is gateway to a better life, and if you know where you come from all the better. Thank you for your wise words and may you blessed be.,
***** Well said - very insightful. Black/white, good/evil, this way or that, everything or nothing, superman, ...;).and so on. Absolutism , like an eye for an eye, makes everyone blind.
Truth Hacker Wheather The question of Jesus Christ being god or not depends on which of the 30+ christian denominations you belong to. Clearly the christian god (who's bible has a shit load of pagan & Nordic religous influence not that anyone cares to mention) fucked up. That excludes of course the Jewish & Islamic beliefs which pre-date your (& their) heretical neo beliefs
I think that means that one can metaphorically die and emerge from it's ashes like a boy becoming a man and a man becoming a father. I think parenthood is an unforgivingly beautiful experience. Just look at nature
Nice quote, but Truth be told my friend, the only one who has deafeted death is Jesus Christ. You might not believe me, you might hate me for saying this, but because I love you all I say this: You trust in Jesus Christ, you will never have to fear death again.
What a clever man. What a pleasure to hear him speak. Knew the name most of my 74yrs but this is my first experience with him. Would love to have met him. Some years ago began learning the Spanish language and discovered a whole knew part of life. A deep culture. Poetry, arts, music, humour (am now Australian so spell humour this way). I experienced a Spanish Intellectual man who was way more qualified than I for I only had 10 years of schooling. My point is Jung, my Spanish man, my engineer father were all out of my league. But having to retain some dignity I had to devise some way to challenge my fathers authoritarianism. I would take his own reasoning into a circle and finally confront him with it. Just to keep my dignity. I’m coming to Jung’s “I don’t believe, I have use only of facts.” That was the approach that ‘Spanish Intellectual ‘ used to criticise me. Jung would never do that I “believe.” I was at this mans door with a Bible in my hand. “Do you speak Hebrew”? He challenged. Aha my encounters with my father taught me to gauge his aims so I replied: “No. Neither do I speak Greek Aramaic” He smiled at my tender parry and said “how can you justify coming to my door teaching the Bible when you do not understand the languages of same”? Told him I have done research in those languages to confirm the accuracy of it. “That’s not good enough” he pouted. So I took him onto my circle. The circle of his own reasoning. You are an adult Spaniard here in Australia with a strong accent....so I ‘believe ‘ based upon observation that you came to Australia in recent years. I came by ship from Europe in 1950 but you would have come by air. That is how it is now done. Therefore I ‘believe ‘ you flew in a Boeing 747 unlikely an Airbus. In view of your risking your own life thus as well as your family did you first become totally conversant with the aerodynamics, fluid dynamics both oils electrons, fuels etc. Or did you not realise the technicalities of the modern aircraft is likely beyond you? So you took that risk based on your knowledge that Boeing’s actually do fly. And mostly have done for a very long time. Had you any doubts of any feature of that aircraft you knew you could access data to satisfy your query. And that sir is why I come to your door with a Bible. Any part of which I can analyse. And my method flies. It has been flying so well that I have brothers and sisters in every language of this world albeit in the main uneducated and it flies. Millions of respondents as a result of our work can rest in peace that “belief “ is possible. Just as one does not need to stick a knife into an electrical circuit to “believe” a given result. We need to “examine every word” and “make sure of the important things” because our life and that of our family depends upon it.
Actually when you wake from your first stuper you'll have clairvoyance into your future and realize there's no adventure you are already there. Once you "die" or wake from this dream it's black that fades to white no sound smell pain nothing. The goal is you realize your pain and then forget it all together and only accept joy into your space after death which is something you can surrender to at any time.
He was a very inspiring man and he makes me feel good when i watch his Videos.I read "Memories, Dreams, Reflections" and it helped me to understand life and my own existence. Bravo Carl Jung!
He had the change to travel around the world a luxury that not many scholars and academics at his time nor today enjoy He just stumbled upon the idea that science has limitations and there are certain things that fall out of the grasp of the scientific method that being our very own existence.
This is one of the wisest men who ever lived. I am especially impressed with what he says about "belief." Belief is a useless word. Either you know something or you don't. And that comes with the absolute experience. We cannot believe only say I don't know.
When you sit down in a chair did you check it’s structural integrity so you can know for a fact that it will support your weight or do you believe it will? You can not exist without belief
It was an incredible thought of mine, before I heard it from this man about his comprehension of the word “Believe”, as I too realised it was a word that is useless, and should not be in the dictionary, for when you know, you know, and when you do not know, you do not, but if you want to make believe you do know, or make believe you don't know, then you'd use that word, and place yourself in a position of a child make believing that Farther Christmas is real, for we all know that Father Christmas IS REAL within children. Belief, like time, you have to believe in time, then you are cheated with something, just like the children were with Father Christmas.
Great video! I didn't even know Jung was still alive at the beginning of the TV era. He has great TV presence, don't you think? And I loved his statements about the word "believe", and about how we should always live as if we will live forever, instead of fearing death and trying to live as if every day might be our last. Grade: A. Stars: 5. (And it is VERY rare that I rate a video so highly!)
Same for me, when i was young i started reading Freud theories and that trigger a traumatic belief about life. Then i discover who he was and read about his idea. Life changing experience, still a hero to me.
@@timmyg44 Its because it can't be tested because the skeptical tester will always be able to find faults in the one who claims to have visions. Its not because this person is lying, but because skeptics always end up with a bit of their own confirmation bias because they have a hatred of the idea of the supernatural or the unexplainable because it directly contradicts their own egotistical belief that they know more than anyone else. This egotistical bias is evident through the history of the science community and its oppression of new ideas that challenge pre-existing knowledge.
I wish I could have asked Dr. Jung, "Is the essence of your struggle-- that you seem to feel that you must justify your heart?" He turned to logic to do that. I wish I could have told him, you can't know anything without first believing that you know it. It's ok to accept your heart and to trust in a heart way. You won't go wrong. The heart leads the way to logic because it is true and only the heart can really witness pure truth...What a wonderful man.
Here you have a pioneer, one of the most capable and inquisitive minds in human history, talking in a sense that would be considered blasphemy in the modern arrogant scientific community. Even moreso in the scientific fandom of the full-of-links-but-no-real-understanding internet trolls, who are quick to call Jung an idiot without investing a fraction of their own intelligence towards what he dedicated his life, time and his brilliant mind upon. That is not to say all are equal, but it's a trend hard to ignore. On open-mind I would say, is still as rare as it was thousands of years ago.
He can be a genius in his field and people can still disagree with some of his ideas, especially if these ideas hardly intertwine with his area of expertise. Being critically acclaimed doesn't make you immune to criticism. This, among other things, is the reason why our civilization and our understanding of the world constantly develop. But let's not get carried away. My initial point was that the concepts discussed in this video are far off from what Jung is best known for, therefore his opinion shouldn't be so highly regarded by admirers like yourself.
@@Prisoner He was referring to the power of dreams. How sometimes people dream of future circumstances only for it to happen almost a few days to weeks later; or seeing people in a dream you haven't seen in a long time then the following days you come by them seemingly by pure luck or chance. He was heavily implying Deja Vu and such. And he's right you're completely ignorant if you deny things of that nature happens. So essentially... His point still stands and the only fools here are you two pretentious know-it-alls.
@@Travisbig7 why does his point still stand? He literally said people can see through the future, you added it was through dreams. How can you prove people can see the future? You really argue that it is obvious that people can see the future in their dreams and that any scientist who disagrees is foolish? I bet that at least 99% of academics have no belief on humans seeing the future.
Jung was a genius and will always be. A brilliant and admirable mind with great understanding of the spirit of human kind. Thanks for posting! This video is a gem!
Bat Man....he is dead in the grave awaiting his ressurection to stand before jesus on the judgement day......all will be resurrected to stand before Jesus.....
@Vyom Swami ..I understand what you are saying.. ..and I am assuming that you believe in a God that spoke creation into existence.. ..that Jesus gave sight to the blind.. ..turned water into wine.. ..calmed the storm.. ..replaced the ear that was cut off.. ..caused a coin to be in the mouth of a fish becasue they did not have money to enter a city that had a tax, caused a disciple to catch the fish so they could enter the city.. ..took bread and fish that was a moderate meal and turned it into enough food to feed thousands.. ..gave us the ability to be born again of the spirit.. ..God did all of that.. ..if one believes all of that then I do not think taking a body that has been decomposed to dust and causing it to form into a body of flesh is any problem for an all powerful God.. ..it all hinges on if one believes that God is all powerful and has full dominion and control to do as he wishes with his creation............
I feel like the interviewer went from asking questions he had wrote down to then asking questions he’d wanted answers for his whole life … rest in piece mr yung ❤️
One of my many fine doctors told me that it looked as though a tumor they discovered was most likely an especially deadly malignancy. I went to the hospital for biopsies and several people noted that I didn't seem very worried. I wasn't really and just said that there is nothing I can do about it except to follow their advice and I was paying them to do the worrying. Multiple biopsies showed the tumor to be benign and harmless. Restudy a year later showed no growth. An old friend and I went out to celebrate the good news and the restaurant gave us a free bottle of wine. So, I did well! When you open your eyes in the morning and don't see roots. you're still on the right side of the grass and it's going to be a great day. And do you know how to make that day even better? Do something (anything) for someone else.
I'm survivor of awake paralysis & suffocation & 'died' & went outside my body in op theatre = torture. Since then I'm TERRIFIED of the dying process = can be TORTURE but lied about & hidden, denied. I'm not scared of 'seeing roots' I'm TERRIFIED of waking in fridge in morgue: trapped/imprisoned & suffocating = they MUST make mistakes sometimes (they're human); IF they opened fridge door & person was say sitting but dead = NOBODY would tell ANYONE: it'd be covered-up. Victorians(?) sometimes put a bell for buried people because there'd been cases of people buried alive & being HEARD shouting. I was paralysed with the anaesthetists Neuro-muscular blocking drugs (NMBs, sometimes wrongly called 'muscle relaxants') so when suffocating I couldn't save myself & the 2 RUBBISH anaesthetists were too ignorant to know what I was going through; they lied & denied & covered-up after. My next (last?) death hangs over me daily = I"M TERRIFIED of the dying process PLUS our brain cells don't all die immediately our heart stops = we will be conscious for some time = nobody knows how long... So when they put us on ventilator so our organs are in good condition for 'harvesting' our brain cells could still be alive = enough for some consciosness but not movement? TERROR HELL.
@@jennyhughes4474 I don't think it should be that bad. You've had a bad experience so you will probably think that way during your death. I don't know what to say. I won't be terrified.
@@areez22 Thank you. I'm glad you aren't scared of the dying process, I wasn't before this because nobody talks about the horrific deaths some people experience; if they've witnessed a loved one dying in excruciating pain they might be too traumatised to talk about it: witnessing this causes massive psychological harm & will last for life (& blocks out good & happy memories) because we can't ever forget the awful memories. Sadly & shockingly some people's deaths are & will be TORTURE because medics aren't allowed to help us die fast, painlessly & with dignity, partly because the reality of the dying process is lied about & covered-up. All the best to you.
@@jennyhughes4474 I understood from you that some people die badly and this reality shouldn't be hidden. I agree that sometimes an easier death is the way. All the best to you too!
Jung is probably the most influential person I've encountered in my life. I identify as a Christian, having come to accept the teachings of Christ in college decades ago, but for the most part, the churches I've been part of never presented a teaching or a guidance that worked. They never lived up to their promise, IMO. (I think this is because they were more concerned with building and supporting a culture than explaining a Kingdom.) I've not given up my faith in Christ (where else would I go? -- I encounter many people who have given up their faith and they have, sorry to say, nothing but nihilism and depression to offer), but Jung has provided the clearest description and guidance of how faith works. I've learned and grown more by reading Jung for the past three or four months than I've gained from decades being in the formal institutional church among other professing believers. Jung has validated my belief and has explained how it helps and how I can know it's grounded in truth. He did this without being specifically "religious" or spiritual. Amazing mind and spirit.
BehindDesign I can't even believe the sheer profundity and acceptance of what life is. I'm imagining him as Nietzsche himself transported into future times... I wonder which psychologists mimic this train of thought in this century...can you name any (in your opinion, i dont know who to look to)? If theres none ill be really sad lol
firehand1011 Today, someone like Jung will be completely ignored by media, and eventually killed if they touch some sensitive area. So, no, there is none.
I just see people moving around unaware of the real motives of their life, Jung teach me that the forces governing human life are unaware to us. There are collective and individual trends that escape our understanding, only people having access to the most privileged information could see it, and they play with it, but not for long... Our perception of reality is ridicule.
he is just the best, he justifies his own reason for loaning interest in the possibility that the psyche is not confined to space and time, being well aware of his own age love the guy, he is awesome
Carl Jung was and is brilliant ... he lives on many years after his death.. if one does not understand him you may need some reflection and time for self evaluation.
I found this to be very encouraging, and uplifting. Very relevant to my life at the moment. Death is the package or contract we are born with to participate in this thing we call life. To live life without question or thought to me is like ignoring the real "Big Picture" and living in a delusion for most if not all of your life.
What an incredible mind he had. Today would have been his birthday. Let us hope he is enjoying his adventures where ever he is at this point in time. Happy Birthday Dr. Jung!
@ionescuandrian Info written to a magnetic HD remains in place as long as the magnetic charges remain above the threshold level determined for being read as a 1 and not a 0. Info residing in temp memory (RAM) is lost.
One of the few of the great modern era minds humble enough to say "I don't know". "I don't have an opinion about that which i don't know." But, based on his experiences with older dying people, and their seeming to feel as if they were continuing onward into a continued life, or new journey. He developed a feeling of openness to possibilities were thought denied him such.
Jung's understanding is beyond every mortal man. He knew things that no one could understand or discover. His legacy will live on and someday he will be respected the way he deserves
There’s Noway I’m the first person to feel that they are searching for the meaning of life and to have come to the conclusion that ideas and intellect are reborn and take shape repeatedly
I have said to people in the past that there is no such reality as "opinions" except those that represent emotional stand-points. Instead, there are only degrees of truth, and any truth that is not a whole truth is simply becoming a truth to an individual, so opinions are irrelevant. I get called crazy for that, so I'm very grateful for the knowledge of a man who agrees, and quite a potent authority he makes.
"....so I think it is better for old people to live on to look forward to the next day... as if he had to spend centuries... and then he lives properly." Great advice... !
When my father died suddenly I rushed to his home and held his body. He was still warm but I knew as soon as I saw him ..to missquote Marvell," from that leaden slumber he would wake no more" He was dead and his body was just an empty vessel.
The arrangement of clothes books and items in a messy room, the quality of thoughts churning away in a mind and the source of them all, constant pulse of the world, so many dreams shared and lived together... yet none of them truly exist.
”I don’t believe. I know, and when I know it I need not to believe it” That was awesome to hear because I’ve been thinking those exact words in my head since I was 12. Why believe something, it doesn’t make sense. Either you know something or you don’t and try to find clarification of the unknown.
@timwins31 I understand your point that he might exist as an abstract thing people live their lives according to, but with the argument saying you can't deny his actual physical existence can be applied to every imaginary thought people have. Like Richard Dawkins said it could be a supercomputer or a giant spaghetti monster, you can't disprove that either because the question is just so vague. Good input from you though, appreciate the depth you went to regarding the question.
People have been conditioned at a very young age with the likes of Father Christmas so that the conditioning of the word “belief” and “believe” can be used to blinker their thoughts.
I was actually led to Carl Jung through Tool as well................ It's nice to know I'm not a "lunatic" as people would claim. People only try to help others, and the thanks they get is being called insane.
Ironically, my psychiatrist told me that he was psychotic, but i do not believe to materialistic psychiatrists too much. Jung was in spirituality, what was Nikola Tesla as well, but in electrical engineering, as well as in spirituality.
Read Sonu Shamdasani editor of Red Book, then you’ll be validated in your suspended judgement about Jung. He wasn’t psychotic. He just underwent something we call esoteric initiation
Your psychiatrist told you that Jung was psychotic, or that your psychiatrist was psychotic? If the former, does Jung here sound psychotic? (Rhetorical question, to which the answer is "no.")
Your energy has to absorb into something, it doesn't just disappear, in fact, life has energy, just not all are like humans with are many languages, and known negative energy which can set a chain of negative through many generations until one puts a stop to it through a form of meditation to relieve oneself of the negative
Yes, if you are buried your energy, the atoms that make up your body obviously do not dissappear they become part of the soil, the plants, the animals and so on. If you are cremated then your energy is burned by fire and released into the atmosphere as heat and smoke etc. and your ashes go back into the cycle as carbon elements.
I think he was thinking more on the terms of a consisusness fundamental. Whereby the reality is just a creation of consisusness a seemingly real one. But because consoussness does not have space it creates it death is simply thr end of a part of consisusness while ultimately consoussness is infinite
Oh our energy is in fact absorbed and doesn't disappear. It's called thermal energy and it gets absorbed by molecules in the air and soil, which in turn slightly raises the temperature of the surrounding we're rotting in. The energy mostly comes out of our rectums. That's a normal part of rotting. Sadly, that's about it. Thermal energy doesn't produce consciousness. In case by "energy" you meant the matter that makes us - it's eaten off by worms and bacteria. What's left slowly degrades and enriches the soil.
TRADUÇÃO EM PORTUGUÊS Entrevistador: Eu sei que você diz que a morte é psicologicamente tão importante quanto o nascimento e como se fosse uma parte integrante da vida, mas certamente, não pode ser como o nascimento se for um fim. Pode? Jung: Sim, se for um fim. E aí não temos certeza sobre esse fim, porque sabemos que existem essas faculdades peculiares da psique - que não está inteiramente confinado ao espaço e ao tempo. Você pode ter sonhos ou visões do futuro. Você pode ver além dos cantos e coisas assim. Somente os ignorantes negam esses fatos. É bastante evidente que eles existem e sempre existiram. Agora, esses fatos mostram que a psique - em parte, pelo menos - não depende desses confinamentos. E depois? Quando a psique não está sob a obrigação de viver no tempo e no espaço sozinha - e obviamente não está - então, nessa medida, a psique não está submetida a essas leis e isso significa uma continuação prática da vida de uma espécie de psíquica existência além do tempo e do espaço. Entrevistador: Você mesmo acredita que a morte é provavelmente o fim ou você acredita ...? Jung: Bem, não posso dizer. Veja, a palavra “acreditar” é uma coisa difícil para mim. Eu não "acredito". Devo ter um motivo para certa hipótese. Ou eu sei de alguma coisa; e quando EU SEI, não preciso acreditar. Eu não me permito, por exemplo, acreditar em uma coisa só por acreditar. Eu não posso acreditar! Mas quando houver razões suficientes para uma certa hipótese, aceitarei essas razões naturalmente. Eu direi "Temos que nos reconhecer com a possibilidade de fulano de tal." Você sabe? Entrevistador: Bem, agora você nos disse que devemos considerar a morte como um objetivo e nos desviar dela é fugir da vida e do propósito da vida. Que conselho você daria às pessoas mais tarde para capacitá-las a fazer isso, quando a maioria delas deve, de fato, acreditar que a morte é o fim de tudo? Jung: Bem, você vê que tratei muitos idosos e é muito interessante observar o que sua consciência está fazendo com o fato de estar aparentemente ameaçada com o fim completo. Ele o desconsidera. A vida se comporta como se fosse continuando e por isso acho melhor que os velhos continuem a viver, a olhar para o dia seguinte como se tivessem que passar séculos e depois viver felizes. Mas quando ele está com medo e não olha para frente; ele olha para trás. Ele petrifica. Ele fica rígido e morre antes do tempo, mas quando ele está vivendo, ansioso pela grande aventura que está à sua frente, então ele vive. E isso é sobre o que seu consciente pretende fazer. Claro que é bastante óbvio que todos vamos morrer e esse é o triste final de tudo, mas, no entanto, há algo em nós que não acredita nisso, aparentemente, mas isso é apenas um fato, um fato psicológico . Não significa para mim que prova algo. É simplesmente assim. Por exemplo, posso não saber por que precisamos de sal, mas preferimos comer sal também, porque nos sentimos melhor. E então, quando você pensa de certa maneira, pode se sentir consideravelmente melhor. E eu acho que se você pensar de acordo com as linhas da natureza, você pensa corretamente.
true i understand that and honestly the corporation is great and very talented at promoting their message its just up to the people to decide who they want to believe in
@Amy Cooper there's been some great studies done for the case that Human's are in denial that death is real which is why we can take such tremendous risks that animals cannot... the book is called "Denial"
@@sparta117corza Perhaps it could be that humans are spiritually evolved enough to be intuitive about an "after" life? Regardless. If death means end of existence, which I no longer believe but if I did, what's to be aftaid of?
Nietzsche meant God is gone from culture. He was right, as you can see the rise of enlightenment, empirical thought processes. He was not happy with the death of God. His full quote "God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?"
+Beatrice B not whatsoever..there are and have been tens of thousands of people smarter than him...he is only "passionately curious"...even i used to be smarter than him, when i was as curious
Jung has been to India once he went to every university in India and met with intellectuals in the field of psychology and everyone he met asked him to meet a ascetic named "Maharishi raman"(wiki for more info) to study him as he claimed to know himself but jung despite many request never went to met him later he said "I was afraid to meet the eyes of a man who knows himself" ! Strangely the psychologists claim to knw others wen they knw nothing abt themselves !!!!!!!!!
Sad boi: He was being interviewed by a great British intellect of his day, who had been ambassador for the UK to the USA. He was John Freeman, a very great brain indeed. This is the only filmed interview in English that Jung ever gave, and we are so privileged to have it. It is only because Jung liked Freeman that he gave the interview - Jung's initial reaction to the request of the BBC for this interview was "no".
He was a Swedenborgian and spent the last 12 years of his life studying the writings of Emmanual Swedenborg, a Swedish scientist, philosopher, theologian, revelator, and, in the eyes of some,
I am only 63 and yet I feel the inevitable closing in on me and I have accepted it, I want to live as long as I can and experience as much joy and wonder as I can but when my time is up, so be it. like in nature they fight for life with all they have got until its obvious they have lost the fight and then seem to gracefully accept it. what happens after you die, I don't know, but that's ok I would rather it was a mystery than have some patented answer.
It is odd when he states such things as the psyche's ability to predict the future as facts and as evidence for theory. I'm not sure if I am missing something? Is any of Jung's work reasonably considered delusions too focused upon an inner-desire of his to find spiritual meaning?
He had visions of the world burning and blood flooding Europe before the first world war began. I think he refers to his subjective experience as sort of evidence.
Jung, using his wide archetypes meaning knowledge, could fortell the future. Though, there's nothing mystical or metaphysical about that and he could do so in very specific area. Dreams, which are most commonly images of individual desires and needs, are manifestations of subconcious or unconcious forces, that sometimes drive people to very stupid actions. The genious of Jung was his ability to identify, interpret them and make assuptions about the possible turn of events in his patients' lifes. I think that in "The Development of personality", he recalled the story of his patient, who was a striving scientist for the societal low class. He had symptoms of neurosis, so Jung told him to record his dreams for an extended period of time. I cannot remember the very content of them, but after the analysis the psychiatrist concluded that the former's low origin had put a huge impact on him and it's against his nature to be a man of science. Jung gently suggested giving up the taken path, but he did not listen. The bottom line is that the patient, very shortly after the last visit, was sucked from the university for some kind of disfunctional behaviour (sorry, but I cannot remember what) and became a bum.
What a sad thought to advise another to give up their dream due to a declaration by nature it self. In fact, Jung could have either so read perfectly the situation at hand or contributed to the patient's eventual destruction by telling him it was against destiny. Although, perhaps his dream was misguided and he had a happier "Destiny" elsewhere. Also, Balint I understand what you say, he seems to declare his unconscious interpretations as interconnected with "realworld" through "meaningful coincidence." He still seems to be up in the clouds, but so were Einstein's intuitions after all.
***** I need to correct myself a little bit and extend my previous post. I shouldn't have used the term "nature", because it does not match the reality. When we think about "nature", we see something being in opposition to it as futile, pointless, because it is unchangeable. The platitude "nothing is impossible" in psychology is true - the said patient could be a successful scientist. There is one thing, which did not allow him to. Jung said the very reason why at that moment he should not try to be a scholar, unless he would not strive to become aware of the complex of his origin. In other words, the patient did not do his homework to put it in the limelight of his conciousness. Summing up, I should've said that becoming a man of science is against his mental condition at that time. The complex, lingering in his psyche, is responsible for his failing.
***** Your interpretation of Jung and this video is via your own filter, or understanding. I totally understand or "get" what he is saying..How you understand him as telling others to "Give Up Their Dream" is perplexing to me. He was talking about how he see's the world, not how others must see it.
He seemed to be speaking to a certain type of person that needs hope in the form of an everlasting soul. He wasn't speaking scientifically, but, I think, trying to do some good. A lot of people don't need to believe that they will live forever. We live on in our children, or the people we influence in our lives, and that should be enough. Lying to yourself can be helpful for some, but I believe it isn't the best way. To say that psyche "obviously" exists outside the real world is twaddle. Once a thought is had, it is embedded in the brain (somewhere), and so exists as a collection of cells or switches.
Philosophically, it isn't "twaddle". There is still no neurological evidence for mind/soul or any other biological evidence for it, and as such, one cannot throw out the logical possibility that the psyche has a place outside of the physical.
WybjornVR Why not? There is evidence of a mind (as in memory and processing, and this is even rudimentarily being recorded and observed), our correspondence shows that. There is no proof for a soul. The psyche is a concept that isn't measured, it's just a way of describing or summarising one's thought processes. It doesn't really mean anything, or does it? I'm not an expert, by the way.
dandare1001 I think he knew better than you if it was twaddle. He had seen to many examples of the psyche foretelling the future or "looking around corners".
I enjoyed the background music. Alan Hohvaness - "The Prayer of Saint Gregory" for Trumpet & String Orchestra - 1946. This is the 4th c. St. Gregory the Illuminator who brought Christianity to Armenia.
There is plenty of research that would imply the psyche exists beyond "time and space" as Jung would put it. Check out the work of people like JB Rhine, Russell Targ, Harold Puthoff, Rupert Sheldrake, and Dean Radin. All serious researchers who have produced very high standards of work in a field that has barely received any funding in comparison to others.
who knows what this man's iq was...i think reading his work might be really a hard task.. on of the most intelligent human beings. yet some people sitting behind a screen will question him and say bad things about such a legendary and absolutely terrifyingly smart person. and if anyone think they know what this man is about through youtube... pleaaaase dive in his ocean by reading his books.
Maybe I will someday. Jung is one of the reasons AA came about. So he's a very positive influence still. If you liked Jung maybe you will like an American psychiatrist called David R. Hawkins. He's more in the mystical realms now, but it's all backed up by 50 years of clinical experience to make an interesting mix. It's because of Hawkins I discovered Jung, because he mentions the big two (Freud and Jung) often in his lectures, favorably. He himself was trained in Freudian psychoanalysis.
...how fascinating...Dr. Viktor Frankl has a similar thought, about looking forward and not petrifying...I like how Jung says how do we not know that death is not a birth...
The soul ends in those organisms for which its purpose was to fulfil the desire of the body. However for people, the purpose of the soul is not just for the body, but it has another purpose. For this reason, the human soul does not die when the body dies.
Once i made the same question , and i received a great answer "think about one of those days in which you were totally happy , and you wished it would never end ...that is the key to eternity". Worked for me , maybe will work for you too.
In my opinion... Consciousness is eternal, only living things - which are avatars for the consciousness, are finite. If you are lucky enough to realise what you are, on a very profound level, you would be enlightened to another kind of knowing.
What he's saying is from the Kantian philosophy which was very influential in Jung's world. Arthur Schopenhauer believed that he discovered a sort of immortality from the premises of Kant. Erwin Schrodinger writes about this in his book, Mind and Matter. Why no one takes notice of these things today is a mystery.
I have an incurable form of bone marrow cancer. My family don't understand why I am not upset and terrified by the prospect of death. I'm a bit surprised myself. I was very frightened of death when I was a child. Now, nearing 70, I am able to face most things. I'm not religious but I follow a spiritual path through life. I realised I had matured when my first reaction to the "bad news" was to be concerned how it would effect my family. I have worked with them to help them to accept this situation. I was delighted when a sibling and I had a little spat and she swore at me. At last, I thought< we're getting back to normal. Life goes on. I'm very busy finishing up my business, and can honestly say I'm having a whale of a time!
***** Sorry Dre'as, I don't do Facebook anymore.
You live like a champion. Hopefully it's as painless as possible for you. You're moving people near and far and that is what we all ought to be doing -- extending our bliss and serenity. God speed, friend
I think if you fear death it is because you know deep down inside of you that you are not putting your full effort into your life, if you live your life waiting for things to happen to you then you might feel regrets when death comes for you. Death is inevitable and it can arrive anytime in your life whether your old or young, it is not within your control, what's in your control is your choices in your life.
This is just my thoughts and some people might feel differently, I hope I did not offend anyone because that is not my intention.
Well I didn't expect these responses and am much moved by the good wishes. I have loved much in my life and feel that I learned how to be a human being. I have suffered much but it helped me to understand the suffering of others. When I was young I made many mistakes and learned much from them. I can honestly say that the hardest times, like when I looked after my mother who had dementia, taught me the most about what I was capable of in the way of faithful service to others. it helped me to get over my selfishness. I learned how to be happy. Yes, I have my regrets, but I did my best. I believe in a God of Love and that made sense of it all. May that Love, which is the highest power in this or any universe fill your lives and bring you the peace that passes human understanding. Happy Christmas to all and to all a Good Night!!!
Best of luck to you.
nterviewer: I know that you say death is psychologically just as important as birth and like it is an integral part of life, but surely, it can’t be like birth if it is an end. Can it?
Jung: Yes, if it is an end. And there we are not quite certain about this end because we know that there are these peculiar faculties of the psyche - that it isn’t entirely confined to space and time. You can have dreams or visions of the future. You can see around corners and such things. Only ignorants deny these facts. It’s quite evident that they do exist and have existed always. Now these facts show that the psyche - in part, at least - is not dependent on these confinements. And then what? When the psyche is not under that obligation to live in time and space alone - and obviously, it doesn’t - then to that extent, the psyche is not submitted to those laws and that means a practical continuation of life of a sort of psychical existence beyond time and space.
Interviewer: Do you, yourself, believe that death is probably the end or do you believe…?
Jung: Well, I can’t say. You see, the word “believe” is a difficult thing for me. I don’t “believe.” I must have a reason for a certain hypothesis. Either I know a thing; and when I KNOW it, I don’t need to believe it. I don’t allow myself, for instance, to believe a thing just for sake of believing it. I can’t believe it! But when there are sufficient reasons for a certain hypothesis, I shall accept these reasons naturally. I shall say “We have to recon with the possibility of so and so.” You know?
Interviewer: Well, now you told us that we should regard death as being a goal and to stray away from it is to evade life and life’s purpose. What advice would you give to people in their later life to enable them to do this when most of them must, in fact, believe that death is the end of everything?
Jung: Well, you see I have treated many old people and it’s quite interesting to watch what their conscious is doing with the fact that it is apparently threatened with the complete end. It disregards it. Life behaves as if it were going on and so I think it is better for old people to live on, to look forward to the next day as if he had to spend centuries and then he lives happily. But when he is afraid and he doesn’t look forward; he looks back. He petrifies. He gets stiff and he dies before his time, but when he’s living on, looking forward to the great adventure that is ahead, then he lives. And that is about what your conscious is intending to do.
Of course it is quite obvious that we’re all going to die and this is the sad finale of everything, but nevertheless, there is something in us that doesn’t believe it, apparently, but this is merely a fact, a psychological fact. Doesn’t mean to me that it proves something. It is simply so. For instance, I may not know why we need salt, but we prefer to eat salt, too, because we feel better. And so when you think in a certain way, you may feel considerably better. And I think if you think along the lines of nature, then you think properly.
you did a commendable job here! thank you so very much!
You are going to heaven
Thank you!
bless you
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Here is a transcription for those who want one. (Click "Read more.") There might be some mistakes for which I apologise sincerely.
Interviewer: I remember that you said that death is psychologically just as important as birth and like it, is an integral part of life. But surely it can't be like birth if it is an end, can it?
Carl Jung: Yes, if it's an end. And there we are not quite certain about this end. Because you know there are these peculiar faculties of the psyche that isn't entirely confined to space and time. You can have dreams or visions of the future. You can see around corners and such things. Only ignorants deny these facts. It is evident that they do exist and have existed always. Now, these facts show that the psyche, in part at least, is not dependent upon these confinements. And then what? When the psyche is not under that obligation to live in time and space alone and obviously it doesn't, then to that extent the psyche is not submitted to those laws. And that means a practical continuation of life of a sort of psychical existence beyond time and space.
Interviewer: Do you yourself believe that death is probably the end or do you believe ...
Carl Jung: Well, I can't say... You see the word believe is a difficult thing for me. I don't believe. I must have a reason for a certain hypothesis. Either I know a thing and then I know it and I don't need to believe it. I don't allow myself, for instance, to believe a thing just for the sake of believing it. I can't believe it. But when there are sufficient reasons for a certain hypothesis I shall accept these reasons naturally and should say we have to reckon with the possibility of so and so, you know.
Interviewer: Well now you have told us that we should regard death as being a goal.
Carl Jung: Yes.
Interviewer: ...and that to shrink away from it is to avoid life and life's purpose.
Carl Jung: Yes.
Interviewer: What advice would you give to people in their later life to enable them to do this when most of them must, in fact, believe that death is the end of everything?
Carl Jung: Well, you see I have treated many old people and it's quite interesting to watch what their consciousness is doing with the fact that it is apparently threatened with the complete end. It disregards it. Life behaves as if it were going on. And so I think it is better for old people to live on, to look forward to the next day as if he had to spend centuries and then he lives properly. But when he is afraid and when he doesn't look forward when he looks back, he petrifies, he gets stiff and he dies before his time. But when he is living on looking forward to the great adventure that is ahead, then he lives. And that is about what their consciousness is intending to do. Of course, it is quite obvious that we are all going to die and this is the sad finale of everything, but never the less there is something in us that doesn't believe it, apparently. But this is merely a fact, a psychological fact. It doesn't mean to me that it proves something. It is simply so. For instance, I may not know why we need salt but we prefer to eat salt too because you feel better. And so when you think in a certain way you may feel considerably better. And I think that if you think along the lines of nature then you think properly.
Ivan's Imperium Thanks for that..it made more sense to me reading it also. Peace ☺
Ivan's Imperium thanks man
Thanks :)
Great job, thank you!
:D
"If you think along the lines of nature then you think properly"
nature is objective, ego is subjective
can you explain what this means?
@@josemariarecalde9984 wow u are a genius!
@@speedos "this" what?
@@TheRonBerg what the quote means. what does it mean to 'think along the lines of nature'? the word "nature" is so vague i have no idea what he is talking about, could you provide some explanation?
"life behaves as if it's going on" Brilliant
Brings a tear to my eye every time I hear it. Reminds me to look forward to life, rather than waiting around for death.
What does it mean actually?
@@ilman8560 Part of the psyche act as if life was going on after death out of this space and time 3 dimension
Oof
Cause there is life after death
This guy is Jordan Peterson's Jordan Peterson.
Jordan Peterson is the poor man's Carl Jung
I love this comment
@@chaoticnique9748 yes like Harvard students :)
Wow
glittering void what a dumb thing to say
If you've ever read Memories, Dreams, Reflections you'll be able to see the phenomenal syncronisity between his dreams and at the same time patients, relatives, dying throughout his life. These experiences I think gave him the idea that consciousness isn't limited to time and space or the body.
Jung: *Tries to talk*
Trumpets: HOLD MY BEER
Bruno Justo That made me laugh waaay harder than it should have.
Hahaha faucking trumpets
Bruno Justo hahahaahaha
another "hold my beer" imbecile
Haha
"Embrace death with your
whole heart,
and you will always be safe"
~ Laozi
Couldn't agree with you more Nadia, I know you understand what millions never will.
Thank you, Robert. I take my example from the ancient Egyptians, who actually looked forward to death and prepared for this eventuality their whole lives through. Death, as an inevitability, shouldn't be feared...what's the point? It should be understood as a temporary juncture, or a gateway to new life.
Further to this idea, should we not live this lifetime to the fullest, in anticipation of what is to come? In my view, a precedent is set by how this lifetime is lived and this is carried forward to the next cycle or phase of existence.
The thing is that millions of people are fearful of death due to a basic misunderstanding of which role death plays in the never-ending cycle of existence, more's the pity. Have a great day!
Thank you for your kind reply Nadia.
I to understand the ancient Egyptians and their views on living.
I think the Question has to be asked why so many have lost the understanding of, I and Self. After all if you know where you've been,
you know where you are, and ultimately you'll Know where you'll arrive.
Nadia I found Great understandings in these modern times, from the works of C G Jung. May I recommend a book. C.G.Jung the earth has a soul, it certainly helped keep the shackles away from me. Wishing you all the very best of perfect days.
Robert Hiorns They say that knowing oneself is gateway to a better life, and if you know where you come from all the better. Thank you for your wise words and may you blessed be.,
***** Well said - very insightful. Black/white, good/evil, this way or that, everything or nothing, superman, ...;).and so on. Absolutism , like an eye for an eye, makes everyone blind.
Such an excellent conversation with a remarkable mind.
are you smarter now? please remain seated.
Ercan Eryilmaz he didn't really say anything here that is "new"
I'm so amazed by this man and his theories. I feel almost drawn to the things which he poses. Thank you for sharing
Mike buddy, study Islam with an open mind, Carl here is just touching on the borders of the concept of death in our religion.....
Carl Jung the real HERO of my spiritual life.
which God?
oh i did not know Jesus Christ , was god he told you?
Truth Hacker Wheather
The question of Jesus Christ being god or not depends on which of the 30+ christian denominations you belong to. Clearly the christian god (who's bible has a shit load of pagan & Nordic religous influence not that anyone cares to mention) fucked up.
That excludes of course the Jewish & Islamic beliefs which pre-date your (& their) heretical neo beliefs
Truth Hacker Silence Neo-Heretic!! Thy words are poo-poo
Tilottama Chakrabarti the Red book is
He doesn't look so Jung...
*no no... I know where the door is.. how kind of you*
lol I just want you to know, I love you
lol
He’s scary smart
what do you mean ?
LOLOL!
fuck you
"You can't beat death, but you can defeat death in life."
-Charles Bukowski
Sometimes
"You can't beat death, but you can beat death in life.. sometimes"
That is stupid
I think that means that one can metaphorically die and emerge from it's ashes like a boy becoming a man and a man becoming a father. I think parenthood is an unforgivingly beautiful experience. Just look at nature
Nice quote, but Truth be told my friend, the only one who has deafeted death is Jesus Christ.
You might not believe me, you might hate me for saying this, but because I love you all I say this:
You trust in Jesus Christ, you will never have to fear death again.
What a clever man. What a pleasure to hear him speak. Knew the name most of my 74yrs but this is my first experience with him. Would love to have met him. Some years ago began learning the Spanish language and discovered a whole knew part of life. A deep culture. Poetry, arts, music, humour (am now Australian so spell humour this way).
I experienced a Spanish Intellectual man who was way more qualified than I for I only had 10 years of schooling.
My point is Jung, my Spanish man, my engineer father were all out of my league. But having to retain some dignity I had to devise some way to challenge my fathers authoritarianism. I would take his own reasoning into a circle and finally confront him with it. Just to keep my dignity.
I’m coming to Jung’s “I don’t believe, I have use only of facts.”
That was the approach that ‘Spanish Intellectual ‘ used to criticise me. Jung would never do that I “believe.”
I was at this mans door with a Bible in my hand.
“Do you speak Hebrew”? He challenged.
Aha my encounters with my father taught me to gauge his aims so I replied:
“No. Neither do I speak Greek Aramaic”
He smiled at my tender parry and said “how can you justify coming to my door teaching the Bible when you do not understand the languages of same”?
Told him I have done research in those languages to confirm the accuracy of it.
“That’s not good enough” he pouted.
So I took him onto my circle. The circle of his own reasoning.
You are an adult Spaniard here in Australia with a strong accent....so I ‘believe ‘ based upon observation that you came to Australia in recent years. I came by ship from Europe in 1950 but you would have come by air. That is how it is now done. Therefore I ‘believe ‘ you flew in a Boeing 747 unlikely an Airbus.
In view of your risking your own life thus as well as your family did you first become totally conversant with the aerodynamics, fluid dynamics both oils electrons, fuels etc. Or did you not realise the technicalities of the modern aircraft is likely beyond you? So you took that risk based on your knowledge that Boeing’s actually do fly. And mostly have done for a very long time. Had you any doubts of any feature of that aircraft you knew you could access data to satisfy your query.
And that sir is why I come to your door with a Bible. Any part of which I can analyse. And my method flies. It has been flying so well that I have brothers and sisters in every language of this world albeit in the main uneducated and it flies. Millions of respondents as a result of our work can rest in peace that “belief “ is possible. Just as one does not need to stick a knife into an electrical circuit to “believe” a given result.
We need to “examine every word” and “make sure of the important things” because our life and that of our family depends upon it.
He who looks back in life dies before his time. So live on, look forward to the next day as a great adventure that lies ahead of me.
Actually when you wake from your first stuper you'll have clairvoyance into your future and realize there's no adventure you are already there. Once you "die" or wake from this dream it's black that fades to white no sound smell pain nothing. The goal is you realize your pain and then forget it all together and only accept joy into your space after death which is something you can surrender to at any time.
He was a very inspiring man and he makes me feel good when i watch his Videos.I read "Memories, Dreams, Reflections" and it helped me to understand life and my own existence. Bravo Carl Jung!
He had the change to travel around the world a luxury that not many scholars and academics at his time nor today enjoy
He just stumbled upon the idea that science has limitations and there are certain things that fall out of the grasp of the scientific method that being our very own existence.
This is one of the wisest men who ever lived. I am especially impressed with what he says about "belief." Belief is a useless word. Either you know something or you don't. And that comes with the absolute experience. We cannot believe only say I don't know.
When you sit down in a chair did you check it’s structural integrity so you can know for a fact that it will support your weight or do you believe it will? You can not exist without belief
It was an incredible thought of mine, before I heard it from this man about his comprehension of the word “Believe”, as I too realised it was a word that is useless, and should not be in the dictionary, for when you know, you know, and when you do not know, you do not, but if you want to make believe you do know, or make believe you don't know, then you'd use that word, and place yourself in a position of a child make believing that Farther Christmas is real, for we all know that Father Christmas IS REAL within children.
Belief, like time, you have to believe in time, then you are cheated with something, just like the children were with Father Christmas.
@@nikgault4028 Believe what you will.
Get it?
Great video! I didn't even know Jung was still alive at the beginning of the TV era. He has great TV presence, don't you think? And I loved his statements about the word "believe", and about how we should always live as if we will live forever, instead of fearing death and trying to live as if every day might be our last. Grade: A. Stars: 5. (And it is VERY rare that I rate a video so highly!)
He changed my life, made me understand a lot of important things, thanks!
fuck outa here
Same for me, when i was young i started reading Freud theories and that trigger a traumatic belief about life. Then i discover who he was and read about his idea. Life changing experience, still a hero to me.
no he didn't. understanding comes only from direct experience not from someone telling you something.
Maisy Melo
Your a woman haha
freshwaterfish so true.
I was named after this guy!
Jermain Roberts wtf is your problem
Or was he named after you?
Cool parents
Jerm Roberts dosent exist, fool.
Carl Off?
I love this man. THE ONLY ONE who managed to truly expose the multidimensional aspects of reality.
I'd take Jung over Freud any day.
Hopefully not from that clip. People do not and have never dreamed a single premonition that can be tested after the fact. Zero, nada, ziltch.
@@timmyg44 Its because it can't be tested because the skeptical tester will always be able to find faults in the one who claims to have visions. Its not because this person is lying, but because skeptics always end up with a bit of their own confirmation bias because they have a hatred of the idea of the supernatural or the unexplainable because it directly contradicts their own egotistical belief that they know more than anyone else. This egotistical bias is evident through the history of the science community and its oppression of new ideas that challenge pre-existing knowledge.
Agreed, but Freud gave us some great jargon.
@ Read books not Wikipedia
Frued's reddit incarnate. he's a people pleaser, of course his philosophy is blatantly to the benefit of ones desires and urges.
I wish I could have asked Dr. Jung, "Is the essence of your struggle-- that you seem to feel that you must justify your heart?" He turned to logic to do that. I wish I could have told him, you can't know anything without first believing that you know it. It's ok to accept your heart and to trust in a heart way. You won't go wrong. The heart leads the way to logic because it is true and only the heart can really witness pure truth...What a wonderful man.
The interviewer just got the best counselling that money can buy...and he got it for free
Thank you so much for posting this up. Reading his books inspired me to pursue psychology, he'll always be one of my heroes :)
Here you have a pioneer, one of the most capable and inquisitive minds in human history, talking in a sense that would be considered blasphemy in the modern arrogant scientific community. Even moreso in the scientific fandom of the full-of-links-but-no-real-understanding internet trolls, who are quick to call Jung an idiot without investing a fraction of their own intelligence towards what he dedicated his life, time and his brilliant mind upon. That is not to say all are equal, but it's a trend hard to ignore. On open-mind I would say, is still as rare as it was thousands of years ago.
He can be a genius in his field and people can still disagree with some of his ideas, especially if these ideas hardly intertwine with his area of expertise. Being critically acclaimed doesn't make you immune to criticism. This, among other things, is the reason why our civilization and our understanding of the world constantly develop. But let's not get carried away. My initial point was that the concepts discussed in this video are far off from what Jung is best known for, therefore his opinion shouldn't be so highly regarded by admirers like yourself.
It is really hard to take seriously someone who says that you have to be a fool if you deny the fact men can see the future and around corners
@@Prisoner exactly. My first reaction was, this guy is an idiot.
@@Prisoner He was referring to the power of dreams. How sometimes people dream of future circumstances only for it to happen almost a few days to weeks later; or seeing people in a dream you haven't seen in a long time then the following days you come by them seemingly by pure luck or chance. He was heavily implying Deja Vu and such.
And he's right you're completely ignorant if you deny things of that nature happens. So essentially... His point still stands and the only fools here are you two pretentious know-it-alls.
@@Travisbig7 why does his point still stand?
He literally said people can see through the future, you added it was through dreams. How can you prove people can see the future?
You really argue that it is obvious that people can see the future in their dreams and that any scientist who disagrees is foolish? I bet that at least 99% of academics have no belief on humans seeing the future.
Jung was a genius and will always be. A brilliant and admirable mind with great understanding of the spirit of human kind. Thanks for posting! This video is a gem!
Forever Jung.I wonder what he's upto right now.
Bat Man Trying to cool off 🔥
Bat Man....he is dead in the grave awaiting his ressurection to stand before jesus on the judgement day......all will be resurrected to stand before Jesus.....
@@cddpmpls35 soul sleep aint real
@Hound19745 always a smart old dude at one of those
@Vyom Swami ..I understand what you are saying.. ..and I am assuming that you believe in a God that spoke creation into existence.. ..that Jesus gave sight to the blind.. ..turned water into wine.. ..calmed the storm.. ..replaced the ear that was cut off.. ..caused a coin to be in the mouth of a fish becasue they did not have money to enter a city that had a tax, caused a disciple to catch the fish so they could enter the city.. ..took bread and fish that was a moderate meal and turned it into enough food to feed thousands.. ..gave us the ability to be born again of the spirit.. ..God did all of that.. ..if one believes all of that then I do not think taking a body that has been decomposed to dust and causing it to form into a body of flesh is any problem for an all powerful God.. ..it all hinges on if one believes that God is all powerful and has full dominion and control to do as he wishes with his creation............
I feel like the interviewer went from asking questions he had wrote down to then asking questions he’d wanted answers for his whole life … rest in piece mr yung ❤️
One of my many fine doctors told me that it looked as though a tumor they discovered was most likely an especially deadly malignancy. I went to the hospital for biopsies and several people noted that I didn't seem very worried. I wasn't really and just said that there is nothing I can do about it except to follow their advice and I was paying them to do the worrying.
Multiple biopsies showed the tumor to be benign and harmless. Restudy a year later showed no growth. An old friend and I went out to celebrate the good news and the restaurant gave us a free bottle of wine. So, I did well! When you open your eyes in the morning and don't see roots. you're still on the right side of the grass and it's going to be a great day. And do you know how to make that day even better? Do something (anything) for someone else.
I'm survivor of awake paralysis & suffocation & 'died' & went outside my body in op theatre = torture. Since then I'm TERRIFIED of the dying process = can be TORTURE but lied about & hidden, denied. I'm not scared of 'seeing roots' I'm TERRIFIED of waking in fridge in morgue: trapped/imprisoned & suffocating = they MUST make mistakes sometimes (they're human); IF they opened fridge door & person was say sitting but dead = NOBODY would tell ANYONE: it'd be covered-up. Victorians(?) sometimes put a bell for buried people because there'd been cases of people buried alive & being HEARD shouting. I was paralysed with the anaesthetists Neuro-muscular blocking drugs (NMBs, sometimes wrongly called 'muscle relaxants') so when suffocating I couldn't save myself & the 2 RUBBISH anaesthetists were too ignorant to know what I was going through; they lied & denied & covered-up after. My next (last?) death hangs over me daily = I"M TERRIFIED of the dying process PLUS our brain cells don't all die immediately our heart stops = we will be conscious for some time = nobody knows how long... So when they put us on ventilator so our organs are in good condition for 'harvesting' our brain cells could still be alive = enough for some consciosness but not movement? TERROR HELL.
@@jennyhughes4474 I don't think it should be that bad. You've had a bad experience so you will probably think that way during your death. I don't know what to say. I won't be terrified.
@@areez22 Thank you. I'm glad you aren't scared of the dying process, I wasn't before this because nobody talks about the horrific deaths some people experience; if they've witnessed a loved one dying in excruciating pain they might be too traumatised to talk about it: witnessing this causes massive psychological harm & will last for life (& blocks out good & happy memories) because we can't ever forget the awful memories. Sadly & shockingly some people's deaths are & will be TORTURE because medics aren't allowed to help us die fast, painlessly & with dignity, partly because the reality of the dying process is lied about & covered-up. All the best to you.
@@jennyhughes4474 I understood from you that some people die badly and this reality shouldn't be hidden. I agree that sometimes an easier death is the way. All the best to you too!
@@areez22 Yes!
Jung is probably the most influential person I've encountered in my life. I identify as a Christian, having come to accept the teachings of Christ in college decades ago, but for the most part, the churches I've been part of never presented a teaching or a guidance that worked. They never lived up to their promise, IMO. (I think this is because they were more concerned with building and supporting a culture than explaining a Kingdom.) I've not given up my faith in Christ (where else would I go? -- I encounter many people who have given up their faith and they have, sorry to say, nothing but nihilism and depression to offer), but Jung has provided the clearest description and guidance of how faith works. I've learned and grown more by reading Jung for the past three or four months than I've gained from decades being in the formal institutional church among other professing believers. Jung has validated my belief and has explained how it helps and how I can know it's grounded in truth. He did this without being specifically "religious" or spiritual. Amazing mind and spirit.
This man is the most important figure of XX century. The dimension of what he said is beyond the understanding of majority of people.
BehindDesign I can't even believe the sheer profundity and acceptance of what life is. I'm imagining him as Nietzsche himself transported into future times...
I wonder which psychologists mimic this train of thought in this century...can you name any (in your opinion, i dont know who to look to)?
If theres none ill be really sad lol
firehand1011 Today, someone like Jung will be completely ignored by media, and eventually killed if they touch some sensitive area. So, no, there is none.
BehindDesign what a fucking sweet spot of human knowledge I've stumbled across then >3 #blesses lol :P
BehindDesign Does telling yourself that make you feel smarter? Does it provide you with the illusion of enlightenment?
I just see people moving around unaware of the real motives of their life, Jung teach me that the forces governing human life are unaware to us.
There are collective and individual trends that escape our understanding, only people having access to the most privileged information could see it, and they play with it, but not for long... Our perception of reality is ridicule.
he is just the best, he justifies his own reason for loaning interest in the possibility that the psyche is not confined to space and time, being well aware of his own age
love the guy, he is awesome
Carl Jung was and is brilliant ... he lives on many years after his death.. if one does not understand him you may need some reflection and time for self evaluation.
subtitles would be much appreciated
Yan Dávila no it wouldint
TheSnobArmy XD appropriate username
Rollo Larson a tad aggressive doncha think?
Rollo Larson he even said it would be much appreciated lol like he's being gracious as it is
Can't you understand well-spoken English? Another possibility is that you'd be better watching something else? Questions...
I found this to be very encouraging, and uplifting. Very relevant to my life at the moment. Death is the package or contract we are born with to participate in this thing we call life. To live life without question or thought to me is like ignoring the real "Big Picture" and living in a delusion for most if not all of your life.
What an incredible mind he had. Today would have been his birthday. Let us hope he is enjoying his adventures where ever he is at this point in time. Happy Birthday Dr. Jung!
This man possesses an awareness that I shall never understand. That old world knowledge. Listen, this is what a pure GENIUS sounds like.
@ionescuandrian Info written to a magnetic HD remains in place as long as the magnetic charges remain above the threshold level determined for being read as a 1 and not a 0. Info residing in temp memory (RAM) is lost.
Answer me 9 years later and you are a certified legend my friend
Carl Jungs advice for Those who are getting older makes good sense
Greatest thinker of the 20th century.
Thinker not stinker.
Happy New Years Day 2019-2020 Blessings to all this year and many more to Come!
One of the few of the great modern era minds humble enough to say "I don't know". "I don't have an opinion about that which i don't know." But, based on his experiences with older dying people, and their seeming to feel as if they were continuing onward into a continued life, or new journey. He developed a feeling of openness to possibilities were thought denied him such.
Jung's understanding is beyond every mortal man. He knew things that no one could understand or discover. His legacy will live on and someday he will be respected the way he deserves
some understood more. but he is one of the best.
RIP Mr. Jung. It'd certainly be nice to meet great minds like you in an afterlife.
That background music is driving me apeshit.
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Glad I found this little clip...existentialism on the hoof. So nice to see his knowing little smile and the twinkle in his eyes .
most rational spiritual person that i know. i like all his work.
He had Near Death Experience much more before R.Moody wrote ''Life after life''
Unconsciously we've been making amazing zen art all this time, in zazen we begin to see it, its magic inspires a meaning in our existence
"Either I know it, and when I know it I don't need to believe it" 🧠
A video of Carl Jung! Priceless.
Belief is about trust in a relationship. Knowledge is about facts in an observable universe.
How did that trust work out for you when you realised father Christmas was all made up? Belief, and believe, are blinkers for the open mind.
If you think along the lines of nature, you think properly. Beautiful Carl:)
There’s Noway I’m the first person to feel that they are searching for the meaning of life and to have come to the conclusion that ideas and intellect are reborn and take shape repeatedly
Really now?
It would've been nicer to hear him speak clearly. Instead, we have some irritating music that adds nothing but annoyance to the video.
I have said to people in the past that there is no such reality as "opinions" except those that represent emotional stand-points. Instead, there are only degrees of truth, and any truth that is not a whole truth is simply becoming a truth to an individual, so opinions are irrelevant. I get called crazy for that, so I'm very grateful for the knowledge of a man who agrees, and quite a potent authority he makes.
"....so I think it is better for old people to live on to look forward to the next day... as if he had to spend centuries... and then he lives properly."
Great advice... !
Death is the beginning of the end. But nobody knows what the end is.
there is no end, everything is a cycle
the end is the beginning itself, everything is a loop
New begining, that's how it looks, until you free yourself from samsara.
Iván Aendrés your mom
the answer is Jesus. Call on Him, search for Him, You will find Him!
he's so amazing to me.
When my father died suddenly I rushed to his home and held his body. He was still warm but I knew as soon as I saw him ..to missquote Marvell," from that leaden slumber he would wake no more"
He was dead and his body was just an empty vessel.
I am sorry for you.
The arrangement of clothes books and items in a messy room, the quality of thoughts churning away in a mind and the source of them all, constant pulse of the world, so many dreams shared and lived together... yet none of them truly exist.
”I don’t believe. I know, and when I know it I need not to believe it”
That was awesome to hear because I’ve been thinking those exact words in my head since I was 12. Why believe something, it doesn’t make sense. Either you know something or you don’t and try to find clarification of the unknown.
@timwins31 I understand your point that he might exist as an abstract thing people live their lives according to, but with the argument saying you can't deny his actual physical existence can be applied to every imaginary thought people have. Like Richard Dawkins said it could be a supercomputer or a giant spaghetti monster, you can't disprove that either because the question is just so vague.
Good input from you though, appreciate the depth you went to regarding the question.
People have been conditioned at a very young age with the likes of Father Christmas so that the conditioning of the word “belief” and “believe” can be used to blinker their thoughts.
I was actually led to Carl Jung through Tool as well................ It's nice to know I'm not a "lunatic" as people would claim. People only try to help others, and the thanks they get is being called insane.
@timwins31 "because most people aren't intelligent, but they think they are." You should look at yourself dude
Ironically, my psychiatrist told me that he was psychotic, but i do not believe to materialistic psychiatrists too much. Jung was in spirituality, what was Nikola Tesla as well, but in electrical engineering, as well as in spirituality.
Read Sonu Shamdasani editor of Red Book, then you’ll be validated in your suspended judgement about Jung. He wasn’t psychotic. He just underwent something we call esoteric initiation
So your psychiatrist was psychotic great stuff
Your psychiatrist is insecure and ego stroking.
Maybe she is introvert and just can't relate at any level
Your psychiatrist told you that Jung was psychotic, or that your psychiatrist was psychotic? If the former, does Jung here sound psychotic? (Rhetorical question, to which the answer is "no.")
"Life behaves as if it is going on."
Thank you for the video. Could you perhaps upload a version without background music? Thanks again.
same way we have a carving for salt is the same way there's the emerging nature to conciousness that makes you want to live a grateful life.
Your energy has to absorb into something, it doesn't just disappear, in fact, life has energy, just not all are like humans with are many languages, and known negative energy which can set a chain of negative through many generations until one puts a stop to it through a form of meditation to relieve oneself of the negative
Yes, if you are buried your energy, the atoms that make up your body obviously do not dissappear they become part of the soil, the plants, the animals and so on. If you are cremated then your energy is burned by fire and released into the atmosphere as heat and smoke etc. and your ashes go back into the cycle as carbon elements.
I think he was thinking more on the terms of a consisusness fundamental. Whereby the reality is just a creation of consisusness a seemingly real one. But because consoussness does not have space it creates it death is simply thr end of a part of consisusness while ultimately consoussness is infinite
@unixmonk they are educated by youtube
Oh our energy is in fact absorbed and doesn't disappear. It's called thermal energy and it gets absorbed by molecules in the air and soil, which in turn slightly raises the temperature of the surrounding we're rotting in. The energy mostly comes out of our rectums. That's a normal part of rotting. Sadly, that's about it. Thermal energy doesn't produce consciousness.
In case by "energy" you meant the matter that makes us - it's eaten off by worms and bacteria. What's left slowly degrades and enriches the soil.
TRADUÇÃO EM PORTUGUÊS
Entrevistador: Eu sei que você diz que a morte é psicologicamente tão importante quanto o nascimento e como se fosse uma parte integrante da vida, mas certamente, não pode ser como o nascimento se for um fim. Pode?
Jung: Sim, se for um fim. E aí não temos certeza sobre esse fim, porque sabemos que existem essas faculdades peculiares da psique - que não está inteiramente confinado ao espaço e ao tempo. Você pode ter sonhos ou visões do futuro. Você pode ver além dos cantos e coisas assim. Somente os ignorantes negam esses fatos. É bastante evidente que eles existem e sempre existiram. Agora, esses fatos mostram que a psique - em parte, pelo menos - não depende desses confinamentos. E depois? Quando a psique não está sob a obrigação de viver no tempo e no espaço sozinha - e obviamente não está - então, nessa medida, a psique não está submetida a essas leis e isso significa uma continuação prática da vida de uma espécie de psíquica existência além do tempo e do espaço.
Entrevistador: Você mesmo acredita que a morte é provavelmente o fim ou você acredita ...?
Jung: Bem, não posso dizer. Veja, a palavra “acreditar” é uma coisa difícil para mim. Eu não "acredito". Devo ter um motivo para certa hipótese. Ou eu sei de alguma coisa; e quando EU SEI, não preciso acreditar. Eu não me permito, por exemplo, acreditar em uma coisa só por acreditar. Eu não posso acreditar! Mas quando houver razões suficientes para uma certa hipótese, aceitarei essas razões naturalmente. Eu direi "Temos que nos reconhecer com a possibilidade de fulano de tal." Você sabe?
Entrevistador: Bem, agora você nos disse que devemos considerar a morte como um objetivo e nos desviar dela é fugir da vida e do propósito da vida. Que conselho você daria às pessoas mais tarde para capacitá-las a fazer isso, quando a maioria delas deve, de fato, acreditar que a morte é o fim de tudo?
Jung: Bem, você vê que tratei muitos idosos e é muito interessante observar o que sua consciência está fazendo com o fato de estar aparentemente ameaçada com o fim completo. Ele o desconsidera. A vida se comporta como se fosse continuando e por isso acho melhor que os velhos continuem a viver, a olhar para o dia seguinte como se tivessem que passar séculos e depois viver felizes. Mas quando ele está com medo e não olha para frente; ele olha para trás. Ele petrifica. Ele fica rígido e morre antes do tempo, mas quando ele está vivendo, ansioso pela grande aventura que está à sua frente, então ele vive. E isso é sobre o que seu consciente pretende fazer.
Claro que é bastante óbvio que todos vamos morrer e esse é o triste final de tudo, mas, no entanto, há algo em nós que não acredita nisso, aparentemente, mas isso é apenas um fato, um fato psicológico . Não significa para mim que prova algo. É simplesmente assim. Por exemplo, posso não saber por que precisamos de sal, mas preferimos comer sal também, porque nos sentimos melhor. E então, quando você pensa de certa maneira, pode se sentir consideravelmente melhor. E eu acho que se você pensar de acordo com as linhas da natureza, você pensa corretamente.
" I don't believe anything, the things I know I don't need to believe it"
I like how he approaches the concept of belief.
true i understand that and honestly the corporation is great and very talented at promoting their message its just up to the people to decide who they want to believe in
I wish I knew what he was talking about
Have you tried listening?
@Amy Cooper there's been some great studies done for the case that Human's are in denial that death is real which is why we can take such tremendous risks that animals cannot... the book is called "Denial"
@@sparta117corza Perhaps it could be that humans are spiritually evolved enough to be intuitive about an "after" life?
Regardless. If death means end of existence, which I no longer believe but if I did, what's to be aftaid of?
This title reminded me of the following graffiti I saw long time ago:
Nietzsche: "God is dead."
God: "Nietzsche is dead."
Nietzsche meant God is gone from culture. He was right, as you can see the rise of enlightenment, empirical thought processes. He was not happy with the death of God.
His full quote "God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?"
simply the most intelligent human beeing that ever existed
One of, not the most.
+Beatrice B what he said as answer to the interviewer's questions wasnt that profound at all, it was more logical than anything else
+Beatrice B not whatsoever..there are and have been tens of thousands of people smarter than him...he is only "passionately curious"...even i used to be smarter than him, when i was as curious
+Beatrice B lmao far from it just an expert in "1" field im an expert ion over 200 fields so im way smarter
wiredsk8r it is that he has just the right mentality, and he remains thoughtful
Jung has been to India once he went to every university in India and met with intellectuals in the field of psychology and everyone he met asked him to meet a ascetic named "Maharishi raman"(wiki for more info) to study him as he claimed to know himself but jung despite many request never went to met him later he said "I was afraid to meet the eyes of a man who knows himself" ! Strangely the psychologists claim to knw others wen they knw nothing abt themselves !!!!!!!!!
Im looking forward to it, not rushing it, but im glad that one day it will be over.
My biggest influence
Thank God .
Why does it sound like he’s talking to Alan Watts lmao
Sad boi: He was being interviewed by a great British intellect of his day, who had been ambassador for the UK to the USA. He was John Freeman, a very great brain indeed. This is the only filmed interview in English that Jung ever gave, and we are so privileged to have it. It is only because Jung liked Freeman that he gave the interview - Jung's initial reaction to the request of the BBC for this interview was "no".
He was a Swedenborgian and spent the last 12 years of his life studying the writings of Emmanual Swedenborg, a Swedish scientist, philosopher, theologian, revelator, and, in the eyes of some,
I am only 63 and yet I feel the inevitable closing in on me and I have accepted it, I want to live as long as I can and experience as much joy and wonder as I can but when my time is up, so be it. like in nature they fight for life with all they have got until its obvious they have lost the fight and then seem to gracefully accept it.
what happens after you die, I don't know, but that's ok I would rather it was a mystery than have some patented answer.
stephen meinhold enjoy your time, don’t let any fear or any unknown take away from the guaranteed present moment
I need his red book
Andrea Have you got it? If so, how?
It is odd when he states such things as the psyche's ability to predict the future as facts and as evidence for theory. I'm not sure if I am missing something? Is any of Jung's work reasonably considered delusions too focused upon an inner-desire of his to find spiritual meaning?
He had visions of the world burning and blood flooding Europe before the first world war began. I think he refers to his subjective experience as sort of evidence.
Jung, using his wide archetypes meaning knowledge, could fortell the future. Though, there's nothing mystical or metaphysical about that and he could do so in very specific area. Dreams, which are most commonly images of individual desires and needs, are manifestations of subconcious or unconcious forces, that sometimes drive people to very stupid actions. The genious of Jung was his ability to identify, interpret them and make assuptions about the possible turn of events in his patients' lifes. I think that in "The Development of personality", he recalled the story of his patient, who was a striving scientist for the societal low class. He had symptoms of neurosis, so Jung told him to record his dreams for an extended period of time. I cannot remember the very content of them, but after the analysis the psychiatrist concluded that the former's low origin had put a huge impact on him and it's against his nature to be a man of science. Jung gently suggested giving up the taken path, but he did not listen. The bottom line is that the patient, very shortly after the last visit, was sucked from the university for some kind of disfunctional behaviour (sorry, but I cannot remember what) and became a bum.
What a sad thought to advise another to give up their dream due to a declaration by nature it self. In fact, Jung could have either so read perfectly the situation at hand or contributed to the patient's eventual destruction by telling him it was against destiny. Although, perhaps his dream was misguided and he had a happier "Destiny" elsewhere.
Also, Balint I understand what you say, he seems to declare his unconscious interpretations as interconnected with "realworld" through "meaningful coincidence." He still seems to be up in the clouds, but so were Einstein's intuitions after all.
***** I need to correct myself a little bit and extend my previous post. I shouldn't have used the term "nature", because it does not match the reality. When we think about "nature", we see something being in opposition to it as futile, pointless, because it is unchangeable. The platitude "nothing is impossible" in psychology is true - the said patient could be a successful scientist. There is one thing, which did not allow him to. Jung said the very reason why at that moment he should not try to be a scholar, unless he would not strive to become aware of the complex of his origin. In other words, the patient did not do his homework to put it in the limelight of his conciousness. Summing up, I should've said that becoming a man of science is against his mental condition at that time. The complex, lingering in his psyche, is responsible for his failing.
*****
Your interpretation of Jung and this video is via your own filter, or understanding. I totally understand or "get" what he is saying..How you understand him as telling others to "Give Up Their Dream" is perplexing to me. He was talking about how he see's the world, not how others must see it.
He seemed to be speaking to a certain type of person that needs hope in the form of an everlasting soul. He wasn't speaking scientifically, but, I think, trying to do some good. A lot of people don't need to believe that they will live forever. We live on in our children, or the people we influence in our lives, and that should be enough. Lying to yourself can be helpful for some, but I believe it isn't the best way.
To say that psyche "obviously" exists outside the real world is twaddle. Once a thought is had, it is embedded in the brain (somewhere), and so exists as a collection of cells or switches.
Philosophically, it isn't "twaddle". There is still no neurological evidence for mind/soul or any other biological evidence for it, and as such, one cannot throw out the logical possibility that the psyche has a place outside of the physical.
WybjornVR
Why not?
There is evidence of a mind (as in memory and processing, and this is even rudimentarily being recorded and observed), our correspondence shows that. There is no proof for a soul.
The psyche is a concept that isn't measured, it's just a way of describing or summarising one's thought processes. It doesn't really mean anything, or does it? I'm not an expert, by the way.
dandare1001 I think he knew better than you if it was twaddle. He had seen to many examples of the psyche foretelling the future or "looking around corners".
Tompe Frompe Have you seen any of these examples, that can't be explained by coincidence?
Maybe he was speaking for you.
I have seen a few. But still my experience is minimal compared to a 80 yer old psychotherapist.
I enjoyed the background music. Alan Hohvaness - "The Prayer of Saint Gregory" for Trumpet & String Orchestra - 1946. This is the 4th c. St. Gregory the Illuminator who brought Christianity to Armenia.
he is so honest,,,it is refreashing.
If there is a time machine, one of the person i would love to have tea with.
Who told you that he would have tea with you?
@@santubanik633 well he just came from the future, i would have tea with him.
There is plenty of research that would imply the psyche exists beyond "time and space" as Jung would put it.
Check out the work of people like JB Rhine, Russell Targ, Harold Puthoff, Rupert Sheldrake, and Dean Radin. All serious researchers who have produced very high standards of work in a field that has barely received any funding in comparison to others.
who knows what this man's iq was...i think reading his work might be really a hard task.. on of the most intelligent human beings.
yet some people sitting behind a screen will question him and say bad things about such a legendary and absolutely terrifyingly smart person. and if anyone think they know what this man is about through youtube... pleaaaase dive in his ocean by reading his books.
Maybe I will someday. Jung is one of the reasons AA came about. So he's a very positive influence still.
If you liked Jung maybe you will like an American psychiatrist called David R. Hawkins. He's more in the mystical realms now, but it's all backed up by 50 years of clinical experience to make an interesting mix.
It's because of Hawkins I discovered Jung, because he mentions the big two (Freud and Jung) often in his lectures, favorably. He himself was trained in Freudian psychoanalysis.
...how fascinating...Dr. Viktor Frankl has a similar thought, about looking forward and not petrifying...I like how Jung says how do we not know that death is not a birth...
Always look at what the swiss are doing. Always look to what the swiss brought up. Einstein, Jung, etc.
Neutrality always makes sense, and Independent thinking.
Look what the English brought to the table too...
what is death?
when the soul leaves the body?
or does the soul end?
There is no soul. Your mind is a memory stick that erases when you die.
Joe Blogs where is mind? Seeing but no see'er, hearing but no hearer, feeling but not feeler, thinking but no thinker, smelling but no smell'er.
The soul ends in those organisms for which its purpose was to fulfil the desire of the body. However for people, the purpose of the soul is not just for the body, but it has another purpose. For this reason, the human soul does not die when the body dies.
Consciousness leaving the body permanently is death, all living things have consciousness, the living beings are simply avatars for it in my opinion.
@@joeblogs8589 I'd have an open mind rather than putting on the blinkers of belief.
eternal life is much more frightening to me than eternal nonexistence...
Once i made the same question , and i received a great answer "think about one of those days in which you were totally happy , and you wished it would never end ...that is the key to eternity". Worked for me , maybe will work for you too.
@@francesco5581 that's good... but I somehow tend to think more of all the sorrow I would have to experience once again xD
@@spcsh1936 think about all the love , the music , the nature , the emotions, the thoughts ...you risk to never experience again
In my opinion... Consciousness is eternal, only living things - which are avatars for the consciousness, are finite.
If you are lucky enough to realise what you are, on a very profound level, you would be enlightened to another kind of knowing.
What he's saying is from the Kantian philosophy which was very influential in Jung's world. Arthur Schopenhauer believed that he discovered a sort of immortality from the premises of Kant. Erwin Schrodinger writes about this in his book, Mind and Matter. Why no one takes notice of these things today is a mystery.
My condolences, hope he led a full, happy life.